1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 01 Nov 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 608       Contents:2 Re: ??== f$mode() = NETWORK always FTP connection.2 Re: ??== f$mode() = NETWORK always FTP connection.) Access Violation in Global Section memory - Re: Access Violation in Global Section memory - Re: Access Violation in Global Section memory - Re: Access Violation in Global Section memory  Alpha 2100s for free Re: Alpha 2100s for free AlphaServer 2100s for free, Re: Another missed opportunity for Alpha/VMS" Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systems" Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systems" Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systems" Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systems" Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systems" Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systems" Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systems" Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systems Re: Blockbuster's not Alpha  Re: Broadcasts in LAVC, Re: CLD & error handling from within program Re: CMS question Re: Compaq Ada for VMS Re: Compaq Ada for VMS Re: Compaq Ada for VMS Re: Compaq Ada for VMS Re: Compaq blasts HP+ RE: Compaq Fibre Channel Tape Controller II  Compaq goes back to school' configure a decserver 200/MC on vms 5.0 + Re: configure a decserver 200/MC on vms 5.0 + RE: configure a decserver 200/MC on vms 5.0  Re: DCPS and Native PCL 4 DEC Alpha VMS question X/Motif - how to turn it off? Re: DEC C and DECUS 2 Re: DECwindows Motif Server Mandatory Update Patch DHCP client software for VMS?  host-based shadow question Re: host-based shadow question Re: host-based shadow question Re: host-based shadow question Re: host-based shadow question# Re: Installing CC060 on VMS VAX 6.1 # Re: Installing CC060 on VMS VAX 6.1 2 Intel uses Alpha - OpenVMS to make pentiums!  WOW!: Re: Kerberos Client on OpenVMS, CSWS/APACHE, MOD_AUTH_KERB& Re: Mixed language programming and RMS news servers Re: news servers Re: news servers Re: news servers. Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.32 Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.32 Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.32 Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.32 Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.32 Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.32 Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.32 Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.32 Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.3 Re: OT - HP's MPE-IX Re: OT - HP's MPE-IX Re: PCL Printer control codes  remote booting a VXT RWAST problems RWAST problems! Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes  SET TERM/INQ& Re: Source for DE500-BA Ethernet Cards@ Re: Stopping processes with open files;  WAS:Re: DEC C and DECUS@ Re: Stopping processes with open files;  WAS:Re: DEC C and DECUS% Re: SYS$EXAMPLES:DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM % Re: SYS$EXAMPLES:DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM % Re: SYS$EXAMPLES:DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM  Re: Unix-based, VMS-based? Re: Unix-based, VMS-based? Re: Unix-based, VMS-based?& V7.2-2 in Canada? Release date in USA? VMS at Intel on The Inquirer  Re: VMS at Intel on The Inquirer  Re: VMS at Intel on The Inquirer  Re: VMS at Intel on The Inquirer vms mail questions VMS721_DRIVER-V0300  Re: VMS721_DRIVER-V0300 ! Re: VMS721_Mount96-v0300 Question   Web Browser for OpenVMS 1.5-1H1?D Windows 2000 outperforms XP by 27 percent!  Better buy 2 processors!# Re: Windows XP reality check please & Re: X.25 profile documentation wanted.& Re: X.25 profile documentation wanted.  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 17:20:16 +0100 0 From: Hans Magnus Aus <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de>; Subject: Re: ??== f$mode() = NETWORK always FTP connection. B Message-ID: <aus-F13C83.17201401112001@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>   Brian,   Does  ! $ MCR AUTHORIZE MODIFY */NOREMOTE 1 allow local PC and Mac Telnet client connections?   0 In article <00A04562.DC631106@SendSpamHere.ORG>,?  system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote:  ...>  O > FYI, because of the "REMOTE" nature of TELNET connections, all accounts on my & > systems have REMOTE access disabled: > # > $ MCR AUTHORIZE MODIFY */NOREMOTE  > F > This helps to keep the riff-raff (not to be confused with Simon Bar  > Sinister's > sidekick) off of my machines.    ...>   --  4 Hans Magnus Aus, Wuerzburg, aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 17:18:17 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) ; Subject: Re: ??== f$mode() = NETWORK always FTP connection. 0 Message-ID: <00A04657.C047A6AE@SendSpamHere.ORG>  u In article <aus-F13C83.17201401112001@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>, Hans Magnus Aus <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes:  >Brian,  >  >Does " >$ MCR AUTHORIZE MODIFY */NOREMOTE2 >allow local PC and Mac Telnet client connections?  M If the connection is via TELNET, it's considered remote and these connections M will be excluded.  For me, I don't care.  Only if I developed some incureable K brain-rotting disease would I ever consider accessing my machines via a PC. L I can get around my network just fine with SET HOST/{LAT or MOP}, thank you.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              J   "And of course, I'm a genius, so people are naturally drawn to my fiery I   intellect.  Their admiration overwhelms their envy!" -- Calvin & Hobbes    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:48:58 GMT * From: mark@*NO*SPAM*.co.uk (Mark Williams)2 Subject: Access Violation in Global Section memory/ Message-ID: <3be15f1a.22510238@news.force9.net>    Hi,    [OpenVMS Alpha 7.2-1]   F We are experiencing a weird problem in that we get sometimes an accessC violation for an address in a global section.  For example we had a D situation where we had created a global section of 32768 bytes whichD was mapped into the virtual address range of 0x566000-0x56DFFF. WhenF the global section was accessed we got the following access violation:  ; %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=04, virtual : address=000000000056C000, PC=000000000003BB00, PS=0000001B  2   Improperly handled condition, image exit forced.1     Signal arguments:   Number = 0000000000000005 1                         Name   = 000000000000000C 1                                  0000000000000004 1                                  000000000056C000 1                                  000000000003BB00 1                                  000000000000001B        Register dump:9     R0  = 0000000000000001  R1  = 000000000056C000  R2  =  00000000000116609     R3  = 000000000056A60C  R4  = 000000000056A620  R5  =  00000000000000B89     R6  = 00000000000000C8  R7  = 00000000665F3704  R8  =  00000000000062409     R9  = 0000000000000001  R10 = 0000000000000006  R11 =  000000007AEFEC849     R12 = 0000000000000004  R13 = 0000000000000007  R14 =  000000007AEFFD509     R15 = 000000007AEFF088  R16 = 000000000056BFDC  R17 =  00000000000000019     R18 = 0000000000000001  R19 = FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF  R20 =  00000000000000009     R21 = 000000007BB806F0  R22 = 0000000000000000  R23 =  00000000000000009     R24 = 0000000000000000  R25 = 0000000000000002  R26 =  000000000003BAEC9     R27 = 000000007BB786C0  R28 = 0000000000045094  R29 =  000000007AEFD1C09     SP  = 000000007AEFD1C0  PC  = 000000000003BB00  PS  =  000000000000001B  C Any ideas? (This problem only seems to happen on a fast machine and " does not occur on our test system.   TIA,  
 Mark Williams    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 15:16:04 GMT & From: "john nixon" <jnixon@cfl.rr.com>6 Subject: Re: Access Violation in Global Section memory: Message-ID: <UGdE7.816$4Q3.212359@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com>  J Do you by chance have two global sections with the same name?  Even if theJ device is different the section name is taken from the filename. Accessing' the wrong section can cause and accvio.   7 "Mark Williams" <mark@*NO*SPAM*.co.uk> wrote in message ) news:3be15f1a.22510238@news.force9.net...  > Hi,  >  > [OpenVMS Alpha 7.2-1]  > H > We are experiencing a weird problem in that we get sometimes an accessE > violation for an address in a global section.  For example we had a F > situation where we had created a global section of 32768 bytes whichF > was mapped into the virtual address range of 0x566000-0x56DFFF. WhenH > the global section was accessed we got the following access violation: > = > %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=04, virtual < > address=000000000056C000, PC=000000000003BB00, PS=0000001B > 4 >   Improperly handled condition, image exit forced.3 >     Signal arguments:   Number = 0000000000000005 3 >                         Name   = 000000000000000C 3 >                                  0000000000000004 3 >                                  000000000056C000 3 >                                  000000000003BB00 3 >                                  000000000000001B  >  >     Register dump:; >     R0  = 0000000000000001  R1  = 000000000056C000  R2  =  > 0000000000011660; >     R3  = 000000000056A60C  R4  = 000000000056A620  R5  =  > 00000000000000B8; >     R6  = 00000000000000C8  R7  = 00000000665F3704  R8  =  > 0000000000006240; >     R9  = 0000000000000001  R10 = 0000000000000006  R11 =  > 000000007AEFEC84; >     R12 = 0000000000000004  R13 = 0000000000000007  R14 =  > 000000007AEFFD50; >     R15 = 000000007AEFF088  R16 = 000000000056BFDC  R17 =  > 0000000000000001; >     R18 = 0000000000000001  R19 = FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF  R20 =  > 0000000000000000; >     R21 = 000000007BB806F0  R22 = 0000000000000000  R23 =  > 0000000000000000; >     R24 = 0000000000000000  R25 = 0000000000000002  R26 =  > 000000000003BAEC; >     R27 = 000000007BB786C0  R28 = 0000000000045094  R29 =  > 000000007AEFD1C0; >     SP  = 000000007AEFD1C0  PC  = 000000000003BB00  PS  =  > 000000000000001B > E > Any ideas? (This problem only seems to happen on a fast machine and $ > does not occur on our test system. >  > TIA, >  > Mark Williams  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 15:51:46 GMT * From: mark@*NO*SPAM*.co.uk (Mark Williams)6 Subject: Re: Access Violation in Global Section memory/ Message-ID: <3be16ec1.26516709@news.force9.net>   B On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 15:16:04 GMT, "john nixon" <jnixon@cfl.rr.com> wrote:  K >Do you by chance have two global sections with the same name?  Even if the K >device is different the section name is taken from the filename. Accessing ( >the wrong section can cause and accvio.  F No.  The global sections are not mapped to files; they are global page file sections.   Cheers,   
 Mark Williams    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 18:48:37 GMT / From: "James Wilkinson" <elementyl@hotmail.com> 6 Subject: Re: Access Violation in Global Section memory@ Message-ID: <9OgE7.321$yS3.236954665@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>  I Is the offending process creating the section or just mapping to it?  Can G you reduce the problem to a reasonable code sample?  If you think it is G related to a "faster machine" have you tried putting a wait in the code D before the write.  Does the access violation occur immediately after- mapping, i.e. first action or sometime later?    James   - "Mark Williams" <mark@*NO*SPAM*.co.uk> wrote: H > We are experiencing a weird problem in that we get sometimes an accessE > violation for an address in a global section.  For example we had a F > situation where we had created a global section of 32768 bytes whichF > was mapped into the virtual address range of 0x566000-0x56DFFF. WhenH > the global section was accessed we got the following access violation:   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 07:39:03 -0800 & From: RJDurkee@yahoo.com (Rich Durkee) Subject: Alpha 2100s for free = Message-ID: <14deb915.0111010739.6bba1888@posting.google.com>   C My company has two 2100 Alphaservers in a cluster that we no longer E need. There doesn't seem to be much market value for them, so we will D probably just trash them...SOON. If anyone has a use for this systemC and is willing to pay packing and shipping charges let me know. The D system has about 20 1Gb an 2GB disks and HSD contollers. There is no; tape drive. If you want more information, please call me at 
 810-606-6706.  Rich Durkee    ------------------------------  * Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 07:47:46 -0800 (PST). From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>! Subject: Re: Alpha 2100s for free @ Message-ID: <20011101154746.91357.qmail@web20206.mail.yahoo.com>  $ Donate both of them to a University.0 Probably they can run OpenVMS in the Educational Program or even Linux/Alpha.       Regards    FC=20 + --- Rich Durkee <RJDurkee@yahoo.com> wrote: 3 > My company has two 2100 Alphaservers in a cluster  > that we no longer 6 > need. There doesn't seem to be much market value for > them, so we will6 > probably just trash them...SOON. If anyone has a use > for this system 4 > and is willing to pay packing and shipping charges > let me know. The. > system has about 20 1Gb an 2GB disks and HSD > contollers. There is no 2 > tape drive. If you want more information, please > call me at > 810-606-6706. 
 > Rich Durkee      =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D L =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D  F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D   2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?, Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 08:28:26 -0800 & From: RJDurkee@yahoo.com (Rich Durkee)# Subject: AlphaServer 2100s for free = Message-ID: <14deb915.0111010828.751f4a71@posting.google.com>   F OK you can stop calling. I have several people who are interested so ID don't need any more callers for the Alphaservers that I mentioned in any earlier post.  Rich Durkee    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 02:03:43 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> 5 Subject: Re: Another missed opportunity for Alpha/VMS , Message-ID: <3BE0F3CD.1F6C7B79@videotron.ca>   Bob Koehler wrote:B >    RAD hardened R3000, PowerPC, 386, and 486 are not uncommon inE >    satellites.  Alphas simply draw too much power to be considered.   I Does Alpha draw too much power because they never bothered optimizing its C power consumption, or does it draw too much power because the alpha , architecture really requires so much power ?  G When they built the hardened versions of the PowerPc etc, did they also F optimize the chip to consume less power, or is the PwerPC architecture) inherently less of a power hungry beast ?   K Or did they use an off-the-shelf PowerPC silicon wafer and embedded it in a M hardened chip instead of the standard plastic chip ? (eg: off-the-shelf Power % PC had reasonable power consumption).     M In other words, had Digital wanted to, could it have built a hardened version 0 of Alpha that had reasonable power consumption ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 09:08:49 +0100 = From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <noone@dummy.com> + Subject: Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systems ) Message-ID: <3BE10311.5C334C53@dummy.com>    What is Blockbuster ????   Jan-Erik Sderholm   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 09:25:09 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> + Subject: Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systems ; Message-ID: <01KA6NTA14DU90UTW5@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>    > What is Blockbuster ????  G I think it is a chain of video-tape (and, today, probably DVD as well)   rental stores in the U.S.   I I've heard mostly bad things about them (hey, not EVERYONE who uses a VT  I wears a white hat :-) ) such as the fact that they a) censor their films   and b) don't even mention this.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 09:41:24 +0000 ( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>+ Subject: Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systems ) Message-ID: <3BE118C3.54ACF60D@127.0.0.1>    Phillip Helbig wrote:  >  > > What is Blockbuster ???? > H > I think it is a chain of video-tape (and, today, probably DVD as well) > rental stores in the U.S.   E And the UK. Store systems are (were) MicroVAX 3100's and LA75 printer  for the memberships cards.  	J > I've heard mostly bad things about them (hey, not EVERYONE who uses a VTJ > wears a white hat :-) ) such as the fact that they a) censor their films! > and b) don't even mention this.   H Censorship starts with a news editor, it's all downhill from then on in,D just knowing it is there gives me the handle I need on things. DunnoH about the UK policies but consider what the Demon ISP have done recentlyH in the UK without telling anyone (but I didn't say I was opposed to it), don't even mention    .    -- p( Regards, Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciences nclews at csc dot coms   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 09:24:02 +0000A% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>a+ Subject: Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systems 8 Message-ID: <5u42utkt66c19hlf2rrfkg7979atjkohao@4ax.com>  6 On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 09:08:49 +0100, Jan-Erik Sderholm <noone@dummy.com> wrote:   >What is Blockbuster ????o  E International video/games/dvd rental chain. Guess you don't have themqD but they're not US only as we have them in the UK. And yes I believe they use VMS here as well.   >  >Jan-Erik Sderholms   -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 05:33:03 -0500t- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>t+ Subject: Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systemsw, Message-ID: <3BE124D6.82A6F57A@videotron.ca>   Phillip Helbig wrote:S >  > > What is Blockbuster ???? > H > I think it is a chain of video-tape (and, today, probably DVD as well) > rental stores in the U.S.d  E I recall Digital proudly announcing a giant outsourcing contract with0K Blockbuster where Digital Support was going to support individual stores ofeK Blockbusters (eg: when something goes wrong with the computers/terkinals inr. the stores, it was Digital handling the call).  D But I also recall later hearing some announcement that Digital woudlM sell/support wintel boxes to Blockbuster. I would have assumed that the vaxesv would all be gone by now.M   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 13:34:18 GMTc1 From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)c+ Subject: Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systemse, Message-ID: <9rrj0q$13oa$2@info.cs.uofs.edu>  @ In article <gsXD7.22909$U7.1484951@bin1.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>,-  "John Smith" <someone@somewhere.com> writes:-K |> Anyone familiar with what make and model Alpha Blockbuster uses in theiro |> backoffice system?e |> W  F Didn't know they were, but then, I remember when they were MicroVAXes.   bill   -- tJ Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   S   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 13:37:53 GMT 1 From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)a+ Subject: Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systemsh, Message-ID: <9rrj7h$13oa$3@info.cs.uofs.edu>  + In article <9rprn10dou@enews1.newsguy.com>,t;  "Steven Santinelli" <Santinelli@smscompNOSPAM.com> writes: G |> Yeah, always gives me that warm and fuzzy feeling every time I go to  |> blockbuster,H |> and see the VT's... :^) |> y  F I always get the same whenever I go to a certain local pizza joint andF see the HDS terminals still in use.  Pretty much guarantees the VAX is still in the basement.   bill   -- -J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   z   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 09:36:34 -0500M5 From: David Beatty <David.Beatty@qwertysasasdfgh.com> + Subject: Re: Blockbuster uses Alpha systemse2 Message-ID: <UV3hO5CsBuGc1ym0m2UZlQsFEpwp@4ax.com>  ; On 1 Nov 2001 13:34:18 GMT, bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Billt Gunshannon) wrote:  A >In article <gsXD7.22909$U7.1484951@bin1.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>, . > "John Smith" <someone@somewhere.com> writes:L >|> Anyone familiar with what make and model Alpha Blockbuster uses in their >|> backoffice system? >|>  >sG >Didn't know they were, but then, I remember when they were MicroVAXes.  >-  A I've seen one at one of the local Blockbuster stores here.  It is : a gun-metal blue desktop case.  Looks notoriously like the AlphaStation 255.=   David R. BeattyK   >billT   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:13:07 GMTt# From: Mark Hemker <hemker@home.com>8$ Subject: Re: Blockbuster's not Alpha8 Message-ID: <9sb2ut01t9ob20n2r0901vrovmnkpbhgdv@4ax.com>  F One of our Compaq Field Engineers said that they use AlphaStation 200s here in the Indiana area.n   Mark6 On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 19:22:10 -0500, "Island Computers" <dbturner@islandco.com> wrote:  / >I supplied some spares to them a few years ago  >rA >Back then they were using Microvax 3100-40's, VT320's and LA75's  >CC >I heard they have gone on to Alphastation 200's but I may be wrong  >n >DT.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 09:27:10 +0000E! From: Andy Burns <andy@burns.net>o Subject: Re: Broadcasts in LAVC 8 Message-ID: <l952ut4tteh3q2rrlk5njrl08ul6bh2j2c@4ax.com>  , On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 01:56:16 -0500, JF Mezei% <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote:   J >But if you have 7 nodes, that would mean 2.3 messages per second, right ?  A still low, when you get to a couple of hundred per second you can3 worry! -- 2
 Andy Burns   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 16:43:02 -0000r/ From: Michael Zarlenga <zarlenga@conan.ids.net>o5 Subject: Re: CLD & error handling from within programa/ Message-ID: <tu2usmhvsclm0f@corp.supernews.com>t  " Ian Parker <parker@gol.com> wrote:H : You're correct with regard to a .CLD file adding command verb to DCL -H : the image is not activated until the parsing is done by DCL.  However,E : in Christoph's case, he's compiled the .CLD to an object module and E : linked it into his program.  His program calls the CLI$ routines tog : parse some command string.  ! Right!  That explains everything.   : Thanks (also to the other poster who said the same thing).   --   -- Mike Zarlenga   ------------------------------   Date: 1 NOV 2001 14:38:43 GMT + From: Dave Greenwood <greenwoodde@ornl.gov>B Subject: Re: CMS question 1 Message-ID: <1NOV01.14384317@feda34.fed.ornl.gov>   ; In a previous article, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote:0D > Have a build that runs on both VAX and AXP, with some differences.$ > On the vax a module is retieved as  > cms fetch foo.pli /gen=V3.7 "" > and on AXP as0J > cms fetch foo.pli  ""   These systems are clustered and use the same cms > lib. >   I > In the former it fetches generation 26 of the element and in the latter  > generation 27. >  0J > If I reserve the former and try to replace it with the latter element it$ > says generation 27 already exists. > ThusF > $ cms fetch foo.pli ""    (this picks up generation 27, and calls it > foo.pli;1)L > $ cms reserve /gen=V3.7 foo.pli "" (this picks up generation 26, and calls > it foo.pli;2)0 > $ dele foo.pli;2$ > $ cms replace /gen=V3.7 foo.pli "" >   $ > which gives the replacement error. >  3; > %CMS-E-NOREPLACE, error replacing PLI$COMMON:[CMS]FOO.PLIl0 > -CMS-E-GENEXISTS, generation 27 already exists >  rK > Not sure how I got in this muddle, but I need them both to fetch the same-M > (generation 27) module.  I had initially  made the change for the AXP buildoG > which created 27, but obviously that didn't make it to the VAX build.U  G Sounds like you have a class called "V3.7" which contains generation 26lJ of foo.pli but you want it to contain generation 27.  You can do something like:e  C   CMS> REMOVE GENERATION FOO.PLI V3.7 "remove incorrect generation" H   CMS> INSERT GENERATION FOO.PLI/GEN=27 V3.7 "insert correct generation"   Dave --------------9 Dave Greenwood                Email: Greenwoodde@ORNL.GOV H Oak Ridge National Lab        %STD-W-DISCLAIMER, I only speak for myself   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:45:57 +0100$ From: "Jakob Erber" <erberj@post.ch> Subject: Re: Compaq Ada for VMSa Message-ID: <3be10bc6$1@hcwe67>    Hi John,   thanks for this information.* I sent my concerns to compaqada@compaq.com but no ressponse.   ? Would you inform your management about this ongoing discussion?    best regards   Jakob0    = "John Reagan" <john.reagan@compaq.com> schrieb im Newsbeitragi# news:3BE02A24.8090809@compaq.com...l > Nic Clews wrote: >0K > > Your statement is wrong. Compaq (DEC) Ada _IS_ being ported to Itanium.  > F > Incorrect.  Compaq Ada is not being ported to Itanium.  As stated byB > others, discussions are underway to provide Ada95 from ACT/gnat. >0G > If people have concerns about your current experieces with gnat, thene@ > please send them to Compaq (not to me please, I'm not directlyJ > involved).  If we know about the current weak points, we can try to make( > sure they are addressed in the future. >  >0 >0 > --
 > John Reagan0) > Compaq Pascal/{A|I}MACRO Project Leader  >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:14:03 +0100$ From: "Jakob Erber" <erberj@post.ch> Subject: Re: Compaq Ada for VMS0 Message-ID: <3be1125b$1@hcwe67>A  F OK, after an extended discussion, we have a word from a compaq person, stating:  ,     Compaq Ada will NOT be ported to Itanium   best regards   Jakob0   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 09:53:45 +0000 ( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> Subject: Re: Compaq Ada for VMS ) Message-ID: <3BE11BA9.4F404748@127.0.0.1>4   John Reagan wrote: >  > Nic Clews wrote: > K > > Your statement is wrong. Compaq (DEC) Ada _IS_ being ported to Itanium.d > F > Incorrect.  Compaq Ada is not being ported to Itanium.  As stated byB > others, discussions are underway to provide Ada95 from ACT/gnat.  2 I know this is the official position at this time.    1G > If people have concerns about your current experieces with gnat, then @ > please send them to Compaq (not to me please, I'm not directlyJ > involved).  If we know about the current weak points, we can try to make( > sure they are addressed in the future.  F Which they are! I appreciate your response though, and would echo what you say above.  F We can only represent what may happen should such a decision continue,> with or without a performance assurance. When you upgrade yourD automobile to a speedboat, just remember that not all customers have access to canals and lakes.-   --  ( Regards, Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciences nclews at csc dot come   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:16:52 -0500y* From: John Reagan <john.reagan@compaq.com> Subject: Re: Compaq Ada for VMSo) Message-ID: <3BE17574.6090005@compaq.com>s   Jakob Erber wrote:  A > Would you inform your management about this ongoing discussion?t >   G Yes I will (actually I already did inform him).  He sits right next to  E me.  I had a long talk with him and also with folks who are involved a! with the current Ada discussions.e     --   John ReaganM' Compaq Pascal/{A|I}MACRO Project Leadere   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:32:04 +0100s= From: Oswald Knoppers <Oswald.Knoppers@contrastmediagroep.nl>w Subject: Re: Compaq blasts HPh5 Message-ID: <3BE124A4.EA6F70DA@contrastmediagroep.nl>    Bill Gunshannon wrote:  / > Speaking of connecting IBM boxes and VMS.....l > = > Is the old BITNET software for the VAX available anywhere??-@ > And for any here who might have been familiar with BITNET, was, > there a UNIX version and is it available??  7 I still use my Joiner Jnet coffee mug every single day!b   Oswald   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:19:31 +0200 From: zessin@decus.deh4 Subject: RE: Compaq Fibre Channel Tape Controller II+ Message-ID: <00A0463E.C6E5C487.13@decus.de>    "Hal Kuff" wrote:tK > Is anyone using a Compaq Fibre Tape Controller II? If so what verison andhM > what is your experience? Or do you know what the current support profile isd > for the product under VMS ?i  K Last time I checked the FCTC were end-of-life and not supported on OpenVMS.-( You need the 'Modular Data Router'. See:M http://www.compaq.com/products/storageworks/hubs-and-bridges/data-router.html2   -- r
 Uwe Zessin   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 09:56:12 -0800 ' From: David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu>a# Subject: Compaq goes back to schoolg+ Message-ID: <3BE18CBC.FC0AEE82@caltech.edu>C  ; For the first time in years I'm holding in my hand a glossyy advertisement from Compaq whichlH actually mentions alphas.   It must have been one bad quarter if they're now so desperate that theyC aren't even using proxies to dump unsold  Alphas into the educations market.   But this _IS_ Compaq, 1 so naturally they botch it in every way possible.   E The publication is called "IT SOLUTION" also "Compaq Higher Education  Catalog, Fourth Quarter, 2001".fE Among the sea of PC products on pages 6 and 7 the  Alphaserver DS10L,3 DS10, DS20E,  and=G ES40 are mentioned.   It mentions OpenVMS once, Tru64 a bunch of times,  but these are "Linux Ready"oC variants.  I'm not so sure how Ready they can be since if they haveo  disks in them it isn't mentioned7 explicitly. Not to worry though, just go to the link at   +   http://www.compaq.com/education/higher-ed_  G and look up the full specs.  Right?  Wrong.  At least not with Netscape/ (4.73 on Linux).A  Clicking on the catalog page, then the servers link, and it goes0" straight back to the catalog page.F The alphas weren't in the price list.   It couldn't even pull them out by part number in then "product search" page.  D You can't get there from here.  (I urge you all to visit this URL so that you too can revel in thelC incredibly ironic glory of a link which exists only under the first-' letter of "Compaq's Accessibility Site",C and "Compaq's Accessibility Press Release".  I'm looking forward too their discussion ofAE site impaired web browsing - to be presented in black text on a black9 background.)  @ Back to the paper document, look for mentions/links/options for:   ESL/CSLG - nope ( new VMS education license program - nopeG Base licenses for Tru64 or OpenVMS - sort of, there's a link to a Tru64e site in the fine print'   under "benchmarks".  Nothing for VMS.i  F I guess they only expect sales to existing alpha sites (where all this information is already known).   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@caltech.edu   ------------------------------  * Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 12:45:33 +0000 (UTC). From: "Kamal Mouline" <mouline_k@caramail.com>0 Subject: configure a decserver 200/MC on vms 5.0H Message-ID: <1efc69df4976cf316d4bcefd5ec5b94e.38570@mygate.mailgate.org>  8 i need help to configure a decserver 200/MC on VMS 5.0   thank to everyone who can help   cencerly MOULINE      -- i Posted from  [194.204.219.197]  1 via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:54:27 +0100r: From: Karl Rohwedder <extern.karl.rohwedder@volkswagen.de>4 Subject: Re: configure a decserver 200/MC on vms 5.0, Message-ID: <3BE14603.7040501@volkswagen.de>  F After installing the DECserver SW on the VMS system, the server should? boot just fine. Adding it in the DECnet database with DSVCONFIGeF may be helpful, because a NCP CONNECT NODE ... is now possible without typing the ethernet address.  K For a more comfortable management use the now freeware TSM package (I think D is can be downloaded from the dnpg web site (www.dnpg.com). With TSME you can automate setups and store the setup in server specific files.t   Kamal Mouline wrote:  : > i need help to configure a decserver 200/MC on VMS 5.0    > thank to everyone who can help > 
 > cencerly
 > MOULINE  >  >  >      -- -  - mit freundlichen Gruessen | with best regards0   Karl RohwedderB iT-Ingenieurteam     | Ellernbruch 11       | D-38112 BraunschweigA Telefon: 0531/515521 | Telefax: 0531/515531 | Mobil: 0172/5434843gE   E-Mail: rohwedder@decus.decus.de           | iT-IngTeam@t-online.de ,           karl.rohwedder@it-ingenieurteam.de DATEX-P: 4505018005::ROHWEDDER   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 10:18:07 -0500* From: WILLIAM WEBB <WWEBB1@email.usps.gov>4 Subject: RE: configure a decserver 200/MC on vms 5.0- Message-ID: <0033000040290297000002L072*@MHS>h  4 =0AThere are a number of steps you've got to follow.$ First do you have the boot software?  : You should have a logical called MOM$LOAD that points to aE directory, either sys$specific:[decserver] or sys$common:[decserver]. $ Do a DIR and look for PR0801ENG.SYS.    4 The 200 won't do IP, and it loads its stuff via MOP.2 http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/wiz_3086.html  ( Here's a little LAT stuff from the docs.: http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/ssb71/6017/6017p071.htm    I =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=e =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D* William W. Webb, EDS, c/o USPS DSSC/OSS/MS. 4924 Green Road Raleigh, NC 27616 919 874 3043   > -----Original Message-----1 > From: Info-VAX-Request@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNETd+ > Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 8:04 AMoD > To: Webb, William W Raleigh, NC; Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNET2 > Subject: configure a decserver 200/MC on vms 5.0 >. >d8 > i need help to configure a decserver 200/MC on VMS 5.0  > thank to everyone who can help >-
 > cencerly	 > MOULINE  >e >h > --  > Posted from  [194.204.219.197]3 > via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORGB >=   ------------------------------  * Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:25:23 +0000 (UTC) From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk  Subject: Re: DCPS and Native PCL+ Message-ID: <9rrbf3$bt1$2@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>o  O In article <3BE095D1.8F838CEC@aik.tec.sc.us>, Ray <lists@aik.tec.sc.us> writes:c >  >i >Tony Scandora wrote:t >t > K >> 2) It only prints on directly connected printers, which is the best way. L >> Without removing the current robust method of handling directly connectedI >> printers, I would like the options of being able to generate a file ofeI >> PostScript to be sent later, and being able to send to an lpr queue ono >> another system. >a >Agreed! >h >Ray >   < I've been asking for DCPS to support lpr printers for ages. M I really want to be able to have number-up etc on my lpr connected postscriptn	 printers.:    
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:44:54 -0500c! From: Beyonder <beyonder@vrx.net>e= Subject: DEC Alpha VMS question X/Motif - how to turn it off?l8 Message-ID: <tv53ut8lqug563ic4sat1q30vl5s43jpa7@4ax.com>  E I want to stop x from starting up, is there anyway to do this besidese a reinstall?   B.    @ -----=  Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News  =-----A http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!d@  Check out our new Unlimited Server. No Download or Time Limits!@ -----==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers!  ==-----   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 09:10:57 +0000l% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>r Subject: Re: DEC C and DECUS8 Message-ID: <r942utsm2kg4cjglg9nm3hj4bqs9fbgmq8@4ax.com>  / On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 10:08:41 -0700, "DigiDemon"a <digidemon@hotmail.com> wrote:    D >haven't a clue what those are :-D).  What I AM looking for is for aF >proggie that will find open files.  When I do a nightly backup of theJ >DEC, I will recieve some messages about certain files not being backed upH >due to them being open.  Now some I can understand (log files open willE >most likely be open by the system account yes?)  But some aren't log F >files...and I'm guessing it's some user that has something open.  I'd? >like to find out which user so I can smartly chastise them ;-)n  ) Are you aware of $ SHOW DEVICE/FILE disk:.   SHOW  	   DEVICES-  
     /FILES  F        Requires SYSPRV (system privilege) or BYPASS privileges to list        read-protected files.  E        Displays a list of the names of all files open on a volume andmF        their associated process name and process identification (PID).E        The specified device must be a mounted Files-11 volume. If the5F        specified volume is a multivolume set, the files on each volume        in the set are listed.i     > I >And thanks for the GNU links...I will see if with the help of them I can 8 >install SSH and have everything running like a champ :) >w >James   -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:05:53 +0100u( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>; Subject: Re: DECwindows Motif Server Mandatory Update PatchT- Message-ID: <VA.000004ae.1a544582@bluewin.ch>,  G In article <kPWD7.1162$RL6.17107@news.cpqcorp.net>, Hoff Hoffman wrote:Rd > In article <3be02e2e$1@news.si.com>, "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com> writes:G > :>  There has been a report of a security problem with the DECwindowsiE > :>  Motif server on various configurations received and identified,r= > :>  and an ECO kit to resolve this has been made available.o > : J > :The VAXDWMOTMUP01_xxx.README file is in HTML!  Can't you make this file > :plain text??? > M >   I've previously provided notice to the ECO site maintainers, specifically-L >   requesting the correction of the um, bogus use of the .README extension # >   for what are really HTML files.: > M I'll also add that printing the html version of cvrlet truncates at the right < hand side rendering it incomplete. Netscape on NT, A4 paper.  = And more foibles with Netscape for the actual patch download:m2 (no external ftp access, so Netscape it has to be)  J My first attempt using Netscape Gold on Alpha VMS (V7.2-1H+) resulted in a? file which didn't match the checksum. The file size matched OK.:  Q Downloading using Netscape on NT and doing a binary FTP across to VMS resulted inrO a file which _did_ produce a checksum match, albeit with naming difficulties ent route. *  M Investigation showed that the version produced by Netscape on VMS had arrivedcR as "Stream_LF, maximum 32767 bytes. longest 32767 bytes", the one via the NT route# as "Fixed length 512 byte records".'  
 The solution:L  , $ SET FILE /ATTRIB=(RFM:FIX,LRL:512) kitname  , and the file now gives the correct checksum.  M * Netscape 4.n on NT insists on replacing the .PCSI-DCX_AXPEXE extension with(K .PCSI. Manually entering the correct extension in the dialog box results in & an extension of .PCSI-DCX_AXPEXE.PCSI.  J A useful addition to the FAQ? It would be nice to see this in the standardH paragraphs about the self-extracting format in the cover letter / readme6 as well, although realize that could be a lot of work.   ___0
 Paul Sture Switzerlands   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:43:28 -0500e! From: Beyonder <beyonder@vrx.net>.& Subject: DHCP client software for VMS?8 Message-ID: <ks53utg5sdft7of3s95ivg12ges6htdrul@4ax.com>  D is there any way or software for VMS to set it up so it can get it's IP address via DHCP ?e  # something like DHCPCd or something?f   can anyone help?   Thanks   Be    @ -----=  Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News  =-----A http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! @  Check out our new Unlimited Server. No Download or Time Limits!@ -----==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers!  ==-----   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:34:37 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>.# Subject: host-based shadow question2; Message-ID: <01KA6WLFSLIQ8YAE79@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>b  H Since allocation-port names ($n$) only make sense for dual-ported disks,F is it necessary to use these names, rather than the NODE$ names, when ? specifying the members of a shadow set?  This is stated in the a@ documentation, but I see no obvious reason for it.  (Of course, % documentation is not always perfect.)2  @ Can a member of a shadow set be a virtual disk in the form of a 1 partition of a real disk served by an InfoServer?    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:49:57 +0100-: From: Karl Rohwedder <extern.karl.rohwedder@volkswagen.de>' Subject: Re: host-based shadow questionD, Message-ID: <3BE144F5.7060903@volkswagen.de>   Phillip Helbig wrote:-  J > Since allocation-port names ($n$) only make sense for dual-ported disks,H > is it necessary to use these names, rather than the NODE$ names, when A > specifying the members of a shadow set?  This is stated in the qB > documentation, but I see no obvious reason for it.  (Of course, ' > documentation is not always perfect.)t >     , The use of an allocation class is mandatory.    B > Can a member of a shadow set be a virtual disk in the form of a 3 > partition of a real disk served by an InfoServer?C >   N Not as far as I know, you can shadow virtual disks that are in container filesO on a real ODS2/5 disk on the system using the LD package from the freeware CD'sd         -- A  - mit freundlichen Gruessen | with best regardsr   Karl RohwedderB iT-Ingenieurteam     | Ellernbruch 11       | D-38112 BraunschweigA Telefon: 0531/515521 | Telefax: 0531/515531 | Mobil: 0172/5434843oE   E-Mail: rohwedder@decus.decus.de           | iT-IngTeam@t-online.de ,           karl.rohwedder@it-ingenieurteam.de DATEX-P: 4505018005::ROHWEDDER   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:57:31 +0100 (MET)J9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>M' Subject: Re: host-based shadow questionK; Message-ID: <01KA6ZG0YF9S90UTW5@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>p  L > > Since allocation-port names ($n$) only make sense for dual-ported disks,J > > is it necessary to use these names, rather than the NODE$ names, when C > > specifying the members of a shadow set?  This is stated in the mD > > documentation, but I see no obvious reason for it.  (Of course, ) > > documentation is not always perfect.)  > . > The use of an allocation class is mandatory.  ; OK, but WHY?  What is the logical reason (if there is one)?n   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:05:00 -0500* From: "Rob L Lyons" <rob.lyons@excite.com>' Subject: Re: host-based shadow question + Message-ID: <9rrkq5$mu0$1@bob.news.rcn.net>e  C > > Can a member of a shadow set be a virtual disk in the form of a 5 > > partition of a real disk served by an InfoServer?t > >c >eJ > Not as far as I know, you can shadow virtual disks that are in container filescL > on a real ODS2/5 disk on the system using the LD package from the freeware CD's  A I have built/used host based shadow sets using controller defineduL partitions.  I've not tried to use a disk hosted on a InfoServer, but if youD can mount it on VMS as a standard device and you have another deviceJ with the same number of blocks, I would give it a fair chance that you can' form a host based shadow set with them.-  L Next question is, will the performance of the two members be similar so that4 I don't get any goofy performance characteristics...   Rob.Lyons@resilientsys.com   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 15:31:46 +0100 (MET)n9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>d' Subject: Re: host-based shadow questione; Message-ID: <01KA70ATKRP690UTW5@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>o  C > I have built/used host based shadow sets using controller definedpJ > partitions.  I've not tried to use a disk hosted on a InfoServer, but ifJ > you can mount it on VMS as a standard device and you have another deviceH > with the same number of blocks, I would give it a fair chance that you. > can form a host based shadow set with them.    Interesting.  G The virtual disks intentionally have exactly the same number of blocks EG as a corresponding real disk.  After ESS$LADCP binds it, one can MOUNT tH it like anything else and, as far as I can tell, it behaves like a real B disk.  (I have even built a volume set of two such virtual disks.)  I > Next question is, will the performance of the two members be similar so1< > that I don't get any goofy performance characteristics...   I I did a test once for both read and write speeds.  They were comparable, K% thus I don't anticipate any problems.q  F My main goal is to guard against disk failures on a timescale shorter @ than a day (longer ones are handled by tape backup), especially H involving open files (MAIL.MAI etc---which wouldn't really be served by  more frequent backups anyway).  H OK (see other posts) I have to introduce non-zero allocation classes in H order to build a shadow set (though I don't really see why; I'd like to E understand why first rather than just believing, even if it is true,  * that "that's just the way it's gotta be").   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 01:33:11 -0800e! From: soterro@yahoo.com (Soterro) , Subject: Re: Installing CC060 on VMS VAX 6.1= Message-ID: <d5440555.0111010133.7007e701@posting.google.com>b  G >   was also replaced some time ago.  I'd try OpenVMS VAX V6.2 or V7.3,nD Well, not that I didn't install for fun and test some OpenVMS, but IA will have to find somebody to do that properly on the development E machine. I can see that's no trivial task at all, since I had so manyoF installation/upgrade/compatibility problems with some tiny application" kits - maybe not so tiny actually.  I >   you were asked to move to more recent/current versions.  eg: V6.2.)   F Yeah, that of course and suggestions that didn't help things going on.B Well, nothing to say, they tried their best, but their best wasn't much.n  O >   guessing the kit was rebuilt incorrectly.  (Use SPKITBLD as a start, and --.C For sure it was ;) but until now I haven't tried SPKITBLD (I missedgE that tool in the vmsinstal documentation) and I used BACKUP instead -l bad idea apparently.  : >   down this path, please also tell us what you tried...)D I just traced the execution of kitinstal.com until I discovered thatF it uses an unknown (to me and OpenVMS too) tool namely LIBEXT, nowhereC to find. The error output was disabled at some point in the script,lE that's why no debug/error messages were shout. Anyway, that meant end E of line for my efforts, I called somebody to update the system to 6.2bD and hopefully that thing will be solved (?) I must say and underlineE that I didn't expect at all to encounter such a mess... but why would ) I complain when finding bugs is my job ;)   
 Thank you, Sorin Costea   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:05:52 +0100e( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>, Subject: Re: Installing CC060 on VMS VAX 6.1- Message-ID: <VA.000004ad.1a5440d1@bluewin.ch>   L In article <d5440555.0110290626.4470edb8@posting.google.com>, Soterro wrote: > Hello, > D > I'm trying to install the C compiler on the named machine, and got$ > stuck by a 'file not found' error: >    [snip]   > H > I extracted KITINSTAL.COM with backup out of the installation kit, and. > (I think) the problem is in this subroutine: >  > .... [snip] > .... > F > The directory is created fine, but after the failure I find no filesF > in it. Anyway, I wanted to make sure that is the problem, so I addedG > some neat messages to the KITINSTAL.COM and tried to put it back intopG > the kit. Well that didn't work anymore. It is not about my changes, IoE > tried to put back the version I extracted and still the same. I usek. > the command as seen in the backup file, with >  > $ backup cc060.a/save/list >  > so the command is like:  >   > $ BACKUP/COMMENT="DEC C BinaryA > Kit"/INTERCHANGE/LOG/VERIFY/IGNORE=LABEL/NOASSIST kitinstal.comD > cc060.a/LABEL=(C)/SAVE > G > I must say I omitted in the command line the directories that Digital E > used to have to store the stuff. No complaints here, but this givesh< > the following quick result when trying to install the kit: >  > ....6 > * Enter installation options you wish to use (none):+ > The following products will be processed:s >   CC V6.0o4 >         Beginning installation of CC V6.0 at 14:068 > %VMSINSTAL-I-RESTORE, Restoring product save set A ...? > %VMSINSTAL-E-INSFAIL, The installation of CC V6.0 has failed.n > .... >  > Any ideas here?  > < One common failure in this area is if you have more than one: file of the same name in the backup saveset. You've editedC KITINSTAL.COM, so I'll guess that the backup command above put both F versions (more if you did several edits) into the saveset. I'd suggestF you try it again, this time specifying kitinstal.com;0 (or purging old versions first). ___0
 Paul Sture SwitzerlandA   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 05:46:33 -08000( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski); Subject: Intel uses Alpha - OpenVMS to make pentiums!  WOW! = Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0111010546.1796819c@posting.google.com>u  D what a kicker! vms has been used by intel for years in their pentium andc) now merced production lines!  read at ...     ' http://www.theinquirer.net/01110105.htmh    $ Intel's dependent on the Alpha chip    Uses it to make Itanics & By Mike Magee, 01/11/2001 10:35:04 BST  D WE WONDERED WHY DOUG BUSCH, the IT manager at Intel, went all coy onE us yesterday when we asked about the systems running in its factoriesDC (fabrication plants) and a little bit of investigation has revealed, the answer.S? Its fabs are heavily dependent on Alpha microprocessors and run C OpenVMS to ensure that blue screens of death or glitches in its ownI, chips don't bring the production lines down.  D Intel's long term plan was to migrate to the Merced processor but as@ we know that took longer to get to the starting gate than anyone	 expected.h  D For some time, La used VAX/VMS software such as Consilium to run theD different lines and we are reliably informed it was still buying Vax* 7000 and Vax 10000 machines up until 1996.  D No one wanted to bow down at the shrine of the alien Alpha chip but,C let's face it, Merced was late and so it contracted a big deal with 7 the Big Q a few years back to convert to Alpha and VMS.$  C That process is now finished, but unfortunately by the terms of theaD agreement, Compaq is unable to shout out to the world that the AlphaC chip is so good that it's even used to make Pentium 4s and Merceds.   A But now the game has changed because VMS is, as we believe, to be E ported to the Intel IA-64 architecture, with the first of the systems & booting maybe at the end of next year.  F But when will we see a production and rugged version of VMS running on a post-McKinley architecture?   A Maybe 2005, or 2004 if everything goes swimmingly, which it nevere does.n  5 And that's why Intella thinks the Alpha is fabtastic.s   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 08:09:19 -0500+ From: "Rick Barry" <barry@star.zko.dec.com>-C Subject: Re: Kerberos Client on OpenVMS, CSWS/APACHE, MOD_AUTH_KERBd3 Message-ID: <EPbE7.1193$RL6.17487@news.cpqcorp.net>   + <david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk> wrote in messageg% news:9rpird$m77$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk...a [snip]A > Just downloaded and setup the Kerberos Security Client for VMS.t >?1 > Good news it included a full Kerberos 5 Server.sD > Bad news it didn't seem to do anything to modify Telnet , FTP etc.E > Contacted Compaq. Seems DEC TCPIP services will not have Kerberizedd versions; > of Telnet, FTP etc until at least DEC TCPIP Services 5.3.s >=G > Why on earth bother to release this (with the Title Kerberos Security5 Client) ' > without Kerberizing Telnet, FTP etc ?u >c > David Webb > VMS and Unix team leader > CCSS > Middlesex University  J We made the choice to ship the Kerberos client/server rather than wait forL Kerberized"applications. That way, users/ISVs will have a supported KerberosG API to begin porting their favorite Kerberos app plus they'd have a KDC  running on VMS.i  ( Kerberized Telnet, etc. are coming next.  
 Rick Barry OpenVMS engineeringb Compaq Computer Corporationd
 Nashua, NH   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:21:21 -08002 From: "Randy Park" <rjpark@mindspring.com.nospaam>/ Subject: Re: Mixed language programming and RMS 2 Message-ID: <9rs0ct$djt$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>  8 cstranslations <cstranslations@msn.com> wrote in message% news:ONXI1toYBHA.1992@cpimsnntpa03... I > I am working on an application that will be written in a combination ofeH > BASIC and C. I am likely going to have a need to write to a particular fileJ > (the application logfile) at various times from both the BASIC and the CH > parts of the application. I threw together some test code that opens a fileH > (from BASIC) and then does a few "interleaved" writes to the file from both > languages. > K > Just wondering if anyone out there has done this and has any gotchas thata I L > should look out for other than, "be sure to use str$get1_dx and associatedI > functions when passing string data back and forth between BASIC and C."0 WhatF > I'm wondering about (in particular) is if there will (or can be) anyL > problems on the BASIC side after I alter the rab (in particular) rab$l_rbf# > and rab$w_rsz over on the C side.w >p > Joee >   < What I did a long time ago was to write a set of routines to> call RMS directly using my own RABs, FABs, XABs, etc.  I wrote? them in BASIC, but designed them to be easily callable from anyw= language.  That approach 15 years ago worked well for me, andd= still continues to work, but it may not be the right approacha for you.   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:33:50 +0100 (MET)e9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>  Subject: news serversn; Message-ID: <01KA6WKH06TU8YAE79@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>b   Hi all,     3 Quite off-topic here, but perhaps someone can help.s  E Back in the good old days when I was working at the university, I hada> good access to an NNTP server.  Not only could I use it with aA news-reading program (NEWSRDR of course!) but I could also telnetoF directly to port 119 and do what I wanted to (useful because I used to= moderate sci.physics.research and this was more efficient fornF re-injecting moderated articles than going through a newsreader, could9 be done non-interactively etc).  I really miss that now! o  F I keep up on comp.os.vms from work (hey, I DO have a VMS job!) but a) G this is not very comfortable compared to using a newsreader, even with  H VMS MAIL, and b) I would rather do all my newsreading at once (allowing F me to see cross-posted articles only once etc).  And no, some sort of E web-access interface to news is NOT an option.  (Anything other than I( NEWSRDR is a step (at least) backwards.)  E I have a "real" internet connection from home, so the only thing I'm  I missing is an NNTP server I can access.  (My ISP---and I don't have much nF choice, since I need fixed IP addresses as well as dial-IN on demand; I luckily the only ISP in my town does this and I don't know of any others nD who do---doesn't have a news server since "there are so many freely 7 accessible ones now", but he couldn't point me to any.)f  H Thus, I'm looking for an NNTP server I can use.  I've actually found oneG which is publicly accessible, carries all the groups I need and is fasttG and up-to-date, but a) I need posting access and b) this service might sG disappear tomorrow (I understand that some publicly accessible servers  C are publicly accessible so that they can be tested under realistic CE conditions before access is restricted, either posting access or all t access).  H Something like this with posting access would be almost good enough, at F least for a while.  In return for being able to expect the service to I continue to be available in the future, I don't mind registering or even tC paying a small fee (as long as all the groups I need are there and  F posting is allowed), though it would be preferable to register on the C basis of IP address rather than email address (though I don't mind  D providing an email for contact purposes---I actually post with real F email addresses, but in the case of re-posting moderated articles the D address in the From: header is not mine, so I need IP-address based H access).  It is possible to automatically find publicly accessible news H servers, but a) some degree of testing, at least for speed, reliability H etc, is needed and b) if one goes away one can't simply move to another G one since the article numbers are not universal but server-based (i.e. -D one either misses articles or has to see some already read articles  again).<  = If there is nothing like this, another option (though not as dF comfortable) would be to READ things at the public read-only server I D have found and POST things through some mail-to-news gateway.  This F would be OK if it lets all headers through untouched (though it could H ADD some headers and/or some signature-style thing at the bottom of the G text if it is obvious that it is not part of the original post).  Does O& anyone know about something like this?  . Yes, I've searched the web.  Things like this   ,    http://home1.gte.net/docthomp/servers.htm  G look quite promising, but it is unfortunately out of date.  Other such  C lists usually just have the name and it is not clear if posting is lF allowed, how many groups are carried etc.  After spending a couple of G hours to come up with search-engine queries which would turn up a few, iC good news servers, I've given up.  (If anyone is successful, don't mI mention just the list, but also the query so that I can repeat it in the T future if necessary).o   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 12:58:10 -0000-= From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]>. Subject: Re: news serversH6 Message-ID: <20011101125810.31325.qmail@gacracker.org>  " -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----  H On Thu, 01 Nov 2001, Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> wrote:   <snip>  > >If there is nothing like this, another option (though not as G >comfortable) would be to READ things at the public read-only server I iE >have found and POST things through some mail-to-news gateway.  This eG >would be OK if it lets all headers through untouched (though it could tI >ADD some headers and/or some signature-style thing at the bottom of the  H >text if it is obvious that it is not part of the original post).  Does ' >anyone know about something like this?t  K Sorry I can't help with public newsservers, however I know of two mail2news 4 gateways that you should be able to use for posting.  	 They are:s   mail2news@anon.lcs.mit.edu mail2news@dizum.como     Doc. - -- 96 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.K ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.                              http://vmsbox.cjb.nets   -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----e Version: 2.6.2  @ iQEVAwUBO+CCcsriC3SGiziTAQFZSAf+LCSL1IGmP/cdwPcCRRg5xblWBGtYaPQU@ 86bwjxWpFsdfgBbMGQufBcOJngfYpBns4Y1qp5gvulkuIn8HBUXFXkfnImmE2mGX@ /M5qUpVbRlqpjGwG1Cdl43EqQdVRiVQy4Q2Qpf2af3gFIp8gbYFWynRnukBIA8X+@ rq2qt6uNdMI3z0m36fxTYG85i1pz4hiclnaZQ7wE6M3GsxTdrtet/wjvwpWjGtEK@ UtaDvLe/LJ8L1wBf4e6tttEoOzDAb2Pd/AIg3vtd9sfKWF5aa7RMjoMNdYuJcYf98 bI0rTlkvPEawvhVs+BZ+vFjKrZ3JNBCJlfPVvdjCQhVRAAuDAaa/bw== =6SdLl -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----c   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 06:29:59 -0800o* From: James Gessling <jgessling@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: news servers') Message-ID: <3BE15C66.57ECC505@yahoo.com>.   "Doc.Cypher" wrote:n  $ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > J > On Thu, 01 Nov 2001, Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> > wrote:  K I use     http://news.cis.dfn.de/  with good results.  It's free and prettyK stable.9   Jimy   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 15:54:27 +0000i% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>I Subject: Re: news servers 8 Message-ID: <tur2utcd40sebr6k997i7pmq9bc32o1d4o@4ax.com>  8 On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:33:50 +0100 (MET), Phillip Helbig+ <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> wrote:r   >Hi all, >u >  > F >I have a "real" internet connection from home, so the only thing I'm J >missing is an NNTP server I can access.  (My ISP---and I don't have much G >choice, since I need fixed IP addresses as well as dial-IN on demand; iJ >luckily the only ISP in my town does this and I don't know of any others E >who do---doesn't have a news server since "there are so many freely s8 >accessible ones now", but he couldn't point me to any.)  > There are commercial servers which will allow you access for aB reasonable annual fee. I use newsguy www.newsguy.com but there are others.s   -- Alan   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 03:32:50 -0800r6 From: andrew.rycroft@intrinsitech.com (Andrew Rycroft)7 Subject: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.3s= Message-ID: <58ba0101.0111010332.518fed99@posting.google.com>u   Hi,k  D I am trying to install Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6.0.0 on an ES45 with OpenVMSE v7.3. when I try and start Oracle/Rdb - $ RMU MONITOR/START, I get ane error message:-   8 %COSI-F-UNSUPP_HW_EVX, unsupported hardware chip variant  $ Any suggestions on how to fix this ?   Thanks Andrew   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:12:56 +0100 = From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <noone@dummy.com>V; Subject: Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.3.) Message-ID: <3BE13C48.1ED1F33E@dummy.com>t  
 Two things...    1. According to^ http://www.oracle.com/rdb/product_info/html_documents/index.html?rdb_prod_matrix_010510_a.html2 you need at least Rdb 7.0.6.1 to run with VMS 7.3. 7.0.6.0 runs maximum on 7.2-x.  > 2. EV67 is the highest currently suported CPU. ES45 uses EV68.F There is as of today *no* version of Rdb that runs on EV68 (aka ES45).  " This two points can be verifyed on^ http://www.oracle.com/rdb/product_info/html_documents/index.html?rdb_prod_matrix_010510_a.html   How to fix it ?oG Well, check with Oracle if you can get some "special" version that willu run  on the ES45...  7 Ther is *nothing* you can do with your current Rdb kit.a   Jan-Erik Sderholm.    Andrew Rycroft wrote:t >  > Hi,T > F > I am trying to install Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6.0.0 on an ES45 with OpenVMSG > v7.3. when I try and start Oracle/Rdb - $ RMU MONITOR/START, I get anu > error message:-) > : > %COSI-F-UNSUPP_HW_EVX, unsupported hardware chip variant > & > Any suggestions on how to fix this ? >  > Thanks > Andrew   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:36:12 +0100i: From: Karl Rohwedder <extern.karl.rohwedder@volkswagen.de>; Subject: Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.3o, Message-ID: <3BE141BC.9090500@volkswagen.de>  J As far as I kno version 7.0.6.2 is released and orderable and should supp= orte EV68 CPU's.   + Below an excerpt from a mail from Oracle...n   1. Pack Part Number:A91368-01,  >G  > Paketinhalt: Oracle(R) Rdb (7.0.6.2.0) CD Pack v1 for Compaq Alpha &:  > VAX OpenVMS       Jan-Erik S=F6derholm wrote:c   > Two things...s >=20 > 1. > According toJ > http://www.oracle.com/rdb/product_info/html_documents/index.html?rdb_pr= od_matrix_010510_a.htmlg4 > you need at least Rdb 7.0.6.1 to run with VMS 7.3.  > 7.0.6.0 runs maximum on 7.2-x. >=20@ > 2. EV67 is the highest currently suported CPU. ES45 uses EV68.H > There is as of today *no* version of Rdb that runs on EV68 (aka ES45). >=20$ > This two points can be verifyed onJ > http://www.oracle.com/rdb/product_info/html_documents/index.html?rdb_pr= od_matrix_010510_a.htmlI >=20 > How to fix it ?AJ > Well, check with Oracle if you can get some "special" version that will=   > run  > on the ES45... >=209 > Ther is *nothing* you can do with your current Rdb kit.a >=20 > Jan-Erik S=F6derholm.g >=20 > Andrew Rycroft wrote:  >=20 >>Hi,r >>F >>I am trying to install Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6.0.0 on an ES45 with OpenVMSG >>v7.3. when I try and start Oracle/Rdb - $ RMU MONITOR/START, I get an  >>error message:-T >>: >>%COSI-F-UNSUPP_HW_EVX, unsupported hardware chip variant >>& >>Any suggestions on how to fix this ? >> >>Thanks >>Andrew >>     --=20m  - mit freundlichen Gruessen | with best regards    Karl RohwedderB iT-Ingenieurteam     | Ellernbruch 11       | D-38112 BraunschweigA Telefon: 0531/515521 | Telefax: 0531/515531 | Mobil: 0172/5434843aE   E-Mail: rohwedder@decus.decus.de           | iT-IngTeam@t-online.dep,           karl.rohwedder@it-ingenieurteam.de DATEX-P: 4505018005::ROHWEDDER   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:09:32 +0100I= From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <noone@dummy.com> ; Subject: Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.3o) Message-ID: <3BE1498C.A242BADB@dummy.com>    OK.b< Then Oracle's "Product Compatibility Matrix" is out-of-date.2 But then, that's just as some other information at? www.oracle.com/rdb. The pages says that Rdb7.1 Beta 4 will soon 1 be released, and the same for Rdb 7.0.6.0 also...p  5 I'm sure that you are right, but I'v not been able ton0 find anything on the Rdb homepage about 7.0.6.2.  / Some links on the page just gives the message :B  H "If you can see this page, then either an error has occurred or your web? browser does not support some of the features of this web site. C Either try reloading this page or click here for more information."    Jan-Erik Sderholm.t   Karl Rohwedder wrote:  > N > As far as I kno version 7.0.6.2 is released and orderable and should support
 > EV68 CPU's.o > - > Below an excerpt from a mail from Oracle...B >  > 1. Pack Part Number:A91368-01  >  >I >  > Paketinhalt: Oracle(R) Rdb (7.0.6.2.0) CD Pack v1 for Compaq Alpha &s >  > VAX OpenVMS >  > / > mit freundlichen Gruessen | with best regardsi >  > Karl RohwedderD > iT-Ingenieurteam     | Ellernbruch 11       | D-38112 BraunschweigC > Telefon: 0531/515521 | Telefax: 0531/515531 | Mobil: 0172/5434843 G >   E-Mail: rohwedder@decus.decus.de           | iT-IngTeam@t-online.der. >           karl.rohwedder@it-ingenieurteam.de  > DATEX-P: 4505018005::ROHWEDDER   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 07:22:24 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)t; Subject: Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.3 3 Message-ID: <8I2uowbd0jkD@eisner.encompasserve.org>.  i In article <3BE13C48.1ED1F33E@dummy.com>, Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <noone@dummy.com> writes:s  $ > This two points can be verifyed on` > http://www.oracle.com/rdb/product_info/html_documents/index.html?rdb_prod_matrix_010510_a.html  H Certainly Oracle's fault and not yours, but that page does not work from a secured browser.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:30:14 +0100 = From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <noone@dummy.com> ; Subject: Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.3 ) Message-ID: <3BE14E66.4E4F8743@dummy.com>y  @ Well, The page havn't been updated for month's anyway (including/ the prod-matrix) so you are not missing much...b   Jan-Erik Sderholm   Larry Kilgallen wrote: > ^ http://www.oracle.com/rdb/product_info/html_documents/index.html?rdb_prod_matrix_010510_a.html > J > Certainly Oracle's fault and not yours, but that page does not work from > a secured browser.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 15:37:27 +0100g: From: Karl Rohwedder <extern.karl.rohwedder@volkswagen.de>; Subject: Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.3m, Message-ID: <3BE15E27.6090004@volkswagen.de>  H Take another look at www.oracle.com/rdb. In the upper right box labelledF 'favorite rdb links' you find comp.matrix dated october 2001, it lists 7.1 and 7.0.6.2t   Jan-Erik S=F6derholm wrote:E   > OK.e> > Then Oracle's "Product Compatibility Matrix" is out-of-date.4 > But then, that's just as some other information atA > www.oracle.com/rdb. The pages says that Rdb7.1 Beta 4 will soonl3 > be released, and the same for Rdb 7.0.6.0 also...  >=207 > I'm sure that you are right, but I'v not been able ton2 > find anything on the Rdb homepage about 7.0.6.2. >=201 > Some links on the page just gives the message :n >=20J > "If you can see this page, then either an error has occurred or your we= bvA > browser does not support some of the features of this web site.bE > Either try reloading this page or click here for more information."b >=20 > Jan-Erik S=F6derholm.  >=20 > Karl Rohwedder wrote:- >=20J >>As far as I kno version 7.0.6.2 is released and orderable and should su= pportn
 >>EV68 CPU's.  >>- >>Below an excerpt from a mail from Oracle...e >> >>1. Pack Part Number:A91368-01s >> >J >> > Paketinhalt: Oracle(R) Rdb (7.0.6.2.0) CD Pack v1 for Compaq Alpha &=   >> > VAX OpenVMS >> >>/ >>mit freundlichen Gruessen | with best regardsr >> >>Karl RohwedderD >>iT-Ingenieurteam     | Ellernbruch 11       | D-38112 BraunschweigC >>Telefon: 0531/515521 | Telefax: 0531/515531 | Mobil: 0172/5434843hG >>  E-Mail: rohwedder@decus.decus.de           | iT-IngTeam@t-online.dee. >>          karl.rohwedder@it-ingenieurteam.de  >>DATEX-P: 4505018005::ROHWEDDER >>     --=20r  - mit freundlichen Gruessen | with best regardsn   Karl RohwedderB iT-Ingenieurteam     | Ellernbruch 11       | D-38112 BraunschweigA Telefon: 0531/515521 | Telefax: 0531/515531 | Mobil: 0172/5434843nE   E-Mail: rohwedder@decus.decus.de           | iT-IngTeam@t-online.de ,           karl.rohwedder@it-ingenieurteam.de DATEX-P: 4505018005::ROHWEDDER   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 16:03:18 +0100$= From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <noone@dummy.com> ; Subject: Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.3 ) Message-ID: <3BE16436.62EFA565@dummy.com>e   OK.i I see now...  6 When I access www.oracle.com/rdb I get a page saying :  H "If you can see this page, then either an error has occurred or your web? browser does not support some of the features of this web site.-E Either try reloading this page or click <here> for more information."   H When I click <here> I'm sent to http://www.oracle.com/rdb/site_map.html.  F On *that* page, when I (earlier today) clicked on the comp-matrix link in theA "Favorite Rdb Links" at the right, 7.1 nor 6.0.2.0 was mentioned.o  6 (At this very moment, I just get the message above...)  @ Does anybody know *what* feature I'm missing ? I have no problem1 with Javescript or frames on other pages/sites...l   Jan-Erik Sderholm.      Karl Rohwedder wrote:e > J > Take another look at www.oracle.com/rdb. In the upper right box labelledH > 'favorite rdb links' you find comp.matrix dated october 2001, it lists > 7.1 and 7.0.6.2n >  > / > mit freundlichen Gruessen | with best regards  >  > Karl RohwedderD > iT-Ingenieurteam     | Ellernbruch 11       | D-38112 BraunschweigC > Telefon: 0531/515521 | Telefax: 0531/515531 | Mobil: 0172/5434843IG >   E-Mail: rohwedder@decus.decus.de           | iT-IngTeam@t-online.deo. >           karl.rohwedder@it-ingenieurteam.de  > DATEX-P: 4505018005::ROHWEDDER   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 15:51:36 +0000c% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>n; Subject: Re: Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6 on an ES45 with OpenVMS v7.3P8 Message-ID: <e8p2uto0o3v5qhfmbiruuos4q2qopca7i2@4ax.com>  6 On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:12:56 +0100, Jan-Erik Sderholm <noone@dummy.com> wrote:   >I8 >Ther is *nothing* you can do with your current Rdb kit.  @ Well you can search the executable for the processor detect code@ which, I believe, is identical to the processor detect code once@ posted up by Hoff. Then patch it. Unsupported of course. Perhaps; someone who has done this can post a "try at your own risk"eA step-by-step guide for a suitable binary patch tool. Personally I F believe Oracle should provide a logical to over-ride the processor and: VMS version checks if they must insist on performing them.   >b >Jan-Erik Sderholm. >C >Andrew Rycroft wrote: >>   >> Hi, >> iG >> I am trying to install Oracle/Rdb v7.0.6.0.0 on an ES45 with OpenVMSgH >> v7.3. when I try and start Oracle/Rdb - $ RMU MONITOR/START, I get an >> error message:- >> e; >> %COSI-F-UNSUPP_HW_EVX, unsupported hardware chip variant  >> r' >> Any suggestions on how to fix this ?( >> n	 >> Thankse	 >> Andrewe   -- Alan   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 06:05:30 -0600r- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: Re: OT - HP's MPE-IX 3 Message-ID: <rxr5NI1kCxwD@eisner.encompasserve.org>p  n In article <MI5E7.4437$wj5.2079920@news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com>, "Duane Sand" <duane.sand@mindspring.com> writes: > ! > <lroduner@americhem.com> wrote:e >> ...J >> How difficult would it be to move enough of the MPE-IX system functions > andaJ >> RTL's to VMS so that the existing MPE-IX applications could be "easily" >> ported to VMS?  ... > E > MPE software is all big-endian.  VMS software is all little-endian.v   Thanks for the information.   D > One side or the other would be faced with incompatible data files,D > no execution of old binaries, and nontrivial source changes before > recompiling.  B I seem to recall (from Usenet) that VMS Fortran has the ability toG read big-endian data.  I presume the only reason it is Fortran-specificf. is that those are the customers who wanted it.  D As for executables -- the Unix folk are going to have to solve this.5 If their solution is worthwhile, it could be adopted.f   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 08:29:22 -0500,- From: "John Eisenschmidt" <jeisensc@aaas.org>  Subject: Re: OT - HP's MPE-IXs+ Message-ID: <sbe10805.065@AAASMTA.aaas.org>   I The solution (as we've already heard) lies in the processor. Itanium is =dF bi-endian, and has the ability to switch byte order on a per-process =I basis. I suspect there would be a performance penalty, but it should be =e& less than trying to do it in software.  E >>> Larry Kilgallen <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> 11/01/2001 7:05:30 AM >>>tL In article <MI5E7.4437$wj5.2079920@news1.rdc1.sfba.home.com>, "Duane Sand" =# <duane.sand@mindspring.com> writes:- >=20! > <lroduner@americhem.com> wrote:  >> ...J >> How difficult would it be to move enough of the MPE-IX system functions > and J >> RTL's to VMS so that the existing MPE-IX applications could be "easily" >> ported to VMS?  ... >=20E > MPE software is all big-endian.  VMS software is all little-endian.    Thanks for the information.g  D > One side or the other would be faced with incompatible data files,D > no execution of old binaries, and nontrivial source changes before > recompiling.  B I seem to recall (from Usenet) that VMS Fortran has the ability toG read big-endian data.  I presume the only reason it is Fortran-specificr. is that those are the customers who wanted it.  D As for executables -- the Unix folk are going to have to solve this.5 If their solution is worthwhile, it could be adopted.w   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:00:20 GMTo- From: "John Hayes" <john@worldwide-wines.moc>e& Subject: Re: PCL Printer control codesD Message-ID: <AzcE7.142379$Ng6.1018651779@newssvr10.news.prodigy.com>  4 "Carl Perkins" <carl@gerg.tamu.edu> wrote in message' news:31OCT200120015957@gerg.tamu.edu... 3 > "John Hayes" <john@worldwide-wines.moc> writes...QJ > }I have a telnet queue going to a canon printer (photocopier,scanner etcL > }unit). I have created a library with PCL control codes to print landscapeJ > }and portrait. These are fine but when I print in duplex mode, the first pageL > }always prints on the back side of the first page. It makes all my reports= > }looks like they are skipping a page. Anyone got any ideas.a > }= > }Desperate Now > }S > }John-9 > }john@worldwide-wines.moc (spam filter, switch the moc)  >1 > My guess:0 > ? > You send the printer control codes. Somewhere in there is thevB > code to turn on duplex. Since you have already sent stuff to theB > printer, when you switch over it thinks you have already printed> > on the front of the page and puts later stuff on the back of+ > the page. Or something along those lines.  >dD > Anyhow, you may need to isolate the commands so that it knows theyB > don't count for "stuff being printed" purposes. At least some HPC > printers like for you to do this, if you don't they print a blank D > page. This is done via an <ESC>P at the start and an <ESC>\ at theH > end of any PCL being sent (neither of these escape codes is documentedD > in the PCL 5 Technical Reference Manual - it is possible that they7 > are specific to HP and Canon may use something else).v >I
 > --- Carl  J It works fantastic now. Thank you for taking the time to reply to my post.   John   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:35:07 +0100 (MET)o9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>e Subject: remote booting a VXTa; Message-ID: <01KA6WM1VXQA8YAE79@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>r  F I have a VXT which can boot off a LAN, the necessary files being on a  disk in an InfoServer.  F It location A I have some VMS machines and the InfoServer.  I want to @ move the VXT to location B.  Both location A and location B are I connected to the internet via ISDN routers.  (That means that I have the  < possibility of connecting the two LANs by going through the H internet---at location A there is not only dial-out but also dial-in on 5 demand) or by dialing in directly, router-to-router.)O  B Can I boot the VXT at location B while leaving everything else at D location A?  If so, can this be done over the internet?  By dialing F router-to-router?  In either case, do I need to make sure the routers 4 route certain protocols?  Which protocols can I use?  I I have a VT320 plugged in to the serial port of the VXT as a console and   see the boot messages on that.   ------------------------------  * Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:41:10 -0800 (PST). From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> Subject: RWAST problemsr@ Message-ID: <20011101174110.24800.qmail@web20207.mail.yahoo.com>   Well  ( I posted a message here a few months ago) about my RWAST problem. Until now, I dont.& have a solution. It happens almost one) day per week - more common in Saturday=20S evenings or Sunday mornings.  * I opened a case at the Compaq/CSC but I=20& dont have a good solution until today.( They asked me try to find the user which0 genereated the problem, but  it was not possible
 until now.    , First of all I tought it was a TCPIP problem( because my TNA device goes "offline" and1 the TNA process stays RWAST with a subprocess  int "suspended" mode. - The subprocess consumes 100% of CPU and I can * stop it only using the formula HALT/CRASH.  - The problem appeared in LAT and RTA terminalsu" too, so it is not a TCPIP problem.  / I applied Files-11 and RMS patches, but without 	 solution.g  4 when it happens my RMU blocking pages goes to almost5 10 pages of SEQBLK. Any idea ? One process blocks all1+ the others using that specific database.=20n2 I imagined it should be a DecDTM problem - I had a0 similiar problem about two years ago, but it was between two servers.  ' My OpenVMS is 7.2, Oracle RDB 7.0-31....   Any suggestions ?=20     REgardsh   F=E1bio CardosoV     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3DnL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3Dt F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - BrazilV fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3Do  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?, Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com   ------------------------------  * Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:41:13 -0800 (PST). From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> Subject: RWAST problemsV@ Message-ID: <20011101174113.32540.qmail@web20206.mail.yahoo.com>   Well  ( I posted a message here a few months ago) about my RWAST problem. Until now, I dont & have a solution. It happens almost one) day per week - more common in Saturday=20e evenings or Sunday mornings.  * I opened a case at the Compaq/CSC but I=20& dont have a good solution until today.( They asked me try to find the user which0 genereated the problem, but  it was not possible
 until now.    , First of all I tought it was a TCPIP problem( because my TNA device goes "offline" and1 the TNA process stays RWAST with a subprocess  in  "suspended" mode._- The subprocess consumes 100% of CPU and I cann* stop it only using the formula HALT/CRASH.  - The problem appeared in LAT and RTA terminalsn" too, so it is not a TCPIP problem.  / I applied Files-11 and RMS patches, but without 	 solution.8  4 when it happens my RMU blocking pages goes to almost5 10 pages of SEQBLK. Any idea ? One process blocks all.+ the others using that specific database.=20 2 I imagined it should be a DecDTM problem - I had a0 similiar problem about two years ago, but it was between two servers.  ' My OpenVMS is 7.2, Oracle RDB 7.0-31...k   Any suggestions ?=20     REgardsd   F=E1bio Cardoso:     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D6L =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D  F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazils fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3Da  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?, Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 06:02:20 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)u* Subject: Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes3 Message-ID: <NHLGuNqq7Jx0@eisner.encompasserve.org>l  [ In article <3BE0CEA1.C9C4CC8C@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:r > Larry Kilgallen wrote:  = >> If you have a properly written ISO-9660 CD-ROM where thosetE >> characteristics are not being honored by VMS, please file a report  >> with Compaq.N > H > To my knowledge, there is no known way to store RMS file attributes on@ > ISO-9660 media of any kind, since VMS typically MOUNTs them asG > write-protected. I am unaware of any INITIALIZE qualifiers that would A > let me make either an LDcu: or VDcu: device an ISO-9660 volume,1 > MOUNTable write-enabled. > E > I am unaware of any third-party or non-VMS software for doing this,-6 > either. AFAIK, MKISOFS_VMS does not do this, either.  A Then file a bug report with the vendor of the software formatting-A the ISO-9660 for you.  The cells are there for storing simple RMSm> attributes -- if the code allegedly formatting the ISO-9660 is> omitting those fields it is hardly the fault of those who have! no connection with that software.C  F > With all the attention on DII-COE, I suppose native ISO-9660 support; > (both read and write) should be a wish list item for VMS.p  @ Where is I feel Mandatory Access Control should be a priority in@ that circumstance.  It is easy to say "ride the coattails of the? project that has funding", but features should stand or fall on- their own merit.  < Which other operating systems have native ISO-9660 writing ?   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:34:50 +0100 (MET)n9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>m Subject: SET TERM/INQa; Message-ID: <01KA6WLPGX6A8YAE79@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>d  B Why does SET TERMINAL/INQUIRE take much longer when issued from a " DECterm than from a real terminal?   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 05:23:50 -0800_% From: Tom Crabtre <tccrab@sunset.net>a/ Subject: Re: Source for DE500-BA Ethernet Cards * Message-ID: <3BE14CE6.4D880668@sunset.net>   Sir:  F Please be so kind as to post the link.  I've tried to find this "great deal" with no success.   Thanks,c   Tom C.   Joe Heimann wrote:  H > On occasion, I have seen posts from persons looking for low cost cardsF > for their systems.  Mac and PC Zone have a "limited quantity" of theF > Digital DE500-BA PCI 10/100 ethernet cards for $9.99 listed in theirG > Clearance section for network hardware.  Hope this is useful info for 
 > someone. >i >  Joe   ------------------------------  * Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 11:10:24 +0000 (UTC) From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.ukI Subject: Re: Stopping processes with open files;  WAS:Re: DEC C and DECUS.+ Message-ID: <9rraj0$bt1$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>h  W In article <3BE0DA98.4070004@tzora.co.il>, Mike Rechtman <rechtman@tzora.co.il> writes:o> >Problem avoidable using f$context, if e.g. you set all users 
 >to have UICsg< >in certain ranges. Also - if you _are_ backing up a system 9 >disk online, remember this is unsupported and can cause  = >serious problems on restore (not often, but when it happens t	 >- oboy!)0 >   H If you use /ignore=interlock then even with the system disk 99.99999% of  the time you'll be perfectly OK.J The only problem I have ever had with this was once when I lost some queue information (this was VMS 5.?).>L Pretty much all the files on the system disk are opened for read rather than write.K Shutting down systems and booting them standalone just to do a system disk uH backup just isn't feasible nowadays. Other routes such as splitting the H mirrored/shadowed system disk and backing it up are just as "unsafe" as # backing up /image/ignore=interlock.4  E Pity they canned the plan to allow you to take disk snapshots on VMS.dE I note that this facility is part of the Advanced Filesystem on Tru640- and seems to work exactly as planned for VMS.nH (But of course it was cancelled because it wouldn't work with clusters -I Hey hang on a minute on Tru64 it is working with clusters. Now I'm really  confused :) ).,i  
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University             >Mike  >  >Carl Perkins wrote: >-1 >> Mike Rechtman <rechtman@tzora.co.il> writes... 0 >> }Two possibilities come to my fevered mind... >> } 19 >> }1. do a sho dev/file DISK: into a file, parse it and   >> }stop/id= all non-zero id's; >> }2. in DCL, set up a f$context to select/skip processes  = >> }according to whatever criteria you need, and either just a? >> }stop/id them, or (better, in my opinion) get a 3-line prog  A >> }that'll $FORCEX them - that will give the processes a chance o% >> }to go through their exit handler.t >> }   >> }Mike >> tF >> Doing this where DISK = the system disk would be a really bad plan.C >> Likewise for any disk where other non-user software is installed = >> (web server, IP stack, mail transport agent, Samba, etc.).i >> kH >> In other cases, it could cause data corruption. COnsider something asM >> simple as a POP server. It is accessing the mail file and half way throughoH >> modifying a record the process is nuked: sounds like a potential mail >> file corruptor to me. >> aJ >> You'd need to be very careful about what you did or did not allow to beI >> killed. Forget one thing from the list of "things not to kill" and youyJ >> may create your very own personalized denial of service attack, or even >> corrupt some data.u >>   >> --- Carle >>   >> }DigiDemon wrote: >> } IL >> }>>:... Second, 2 questions....I've been trying to to snag a lil :proggieL >> }>>called findlocks.com from DECUS, but to no avail...is there :something >> }>>up with the site?| >> }>>I >> }>>  Um, what are you up to?  AMDS and Availability Manager and recent:N >> }>>  versions of SDA are all quite good at tracking locks.  Though AMDS andM >> }>>  Availability Manager are separately installed kits, they are licensed/ >> }>>  with OpenVMS.i >> }>> >> }>  >> }> I >> }> Actually, I think "findlocks" isn't what I'm looking for...I have a3N >> }> proggie that will find RMS locks (the real exciting thing here is that II >> }> haven't a clue what those are :-D).  What I AM looking for is for atK >> }> proggie that will find open files.  When I do a nightly backup of thecO >> }> DEC, I will recieve some messages about certain files not being backed upPM >> }> due to them being open.  Now some I can understand (log files open willtJ >> }> most likely be open by the system account yes?)  But some aren't logK >> }> files...and I'm guessing it's some user that has something open.  I'dhD >> }> like to find out which user so I can smartly chastise them ;-) >> }> N >> }> And thanks for the GNU links...I will see if with the help of them I can= >> }> install SSH and have everything running like a champ :)e >> }>  >> }> JamesS >> }>  >> }-- >I >> }--------------------------------------------------------------------- ? >> }Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not > >> }even that.C >> }Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il*1 >> 5 >  >0 >-- F >---------------------------------------------------------------------< >Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not  >even that.I@ >Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il*0 >Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice  >(home):(972)-2-9908337.8 >   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes 
 >another 80%"tF >---------------------------------------------------------------------+ >------ GEEK CODE BLOCK (Version: 3.1)----- ) >GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++w( >N++ K? w--- V+++$ PS+ PE-- t X- tv-- b+ >DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@+ >---------- END GEEK CODE BLOCK  ----------d >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 19:31:13 +0200e* From: Mike Rechtman <rechtman@tzora.co.il>I Subject: Re: Stopping processes with open files;  WAS:Re: DEC C and DECUSe* Message-ID: <3BE186E1.5070500@tzora.co.il>  8 As a matter of possible interest - I came across a case < where after an restore from an on-line backup of the system : disk users alphabetically from A to S could log in, while 9 users starting T to Z could not. As it happened, in this  : particular case we managed to find an uncorrupted earlier ; version of SYSUAF.DAT, which was acceptable (due to a lack .: of other options...) A solvable problem, perhaps, but not ; easy to analyse ("Some users can't login...") Oh well, fun t9 while it lasted, and probably the 0.00001% only - but an e example of what could happen.t   Mike   david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk wrote:   Y > In article <3BE0DA98.4070004@tzora.co.il>, Mike Rechtman <rechtman@tzora.co.il> writes:  > ? >>Problem avoidable using f$context, if e.g. you set all users S >>to have UICs= >>in certain ranges. Also - if you _are_ backing up a system w: >>disk online, remember this is unsupported and can cause > >>serious problems on restore (not often, but when it happens 
 >>- oboy!) >> >> > J > If you use /ignore=interlock then even with the system disk 99.99999% of" > the time you'll be perfectly OK.L > The only problem I have ever had with this was once when I lost some queue! > information (this was VMS 5.?). N > Pretty much all the files on the system disk are opened for read rather than > write.M > Shutting down systems and booting them standalone just to do a system disk bJ > backup just isn't feasible nowadays. Other routes such as splitting the J > mirrored/shadowed system disk and backing it up are just as "unsafe" as % > backing up /image/ignore=interlock.t > G > Pity they canned the plan to allow you to take disk snapshots on VMS.-G > I note that this facility is part of the Advanced Filesystem on Tru64w/ > and seems to work exactly as planned for VMS.nJ > (But of course it was cancelled because it wouldn't work with clusters -K > Hey hang on a minute on Tru64 it is working with clusters. Now I'm really0 > confused :) ).,u >  > David Webb > VMS and Unix team leader > CCSS > Middlesex University >  >  >  >  >  >  >  >>Mike >> >>Carl Perkins wrote:i >> >>1 >>>Mike Rechtman <rechtman@tzora.co.il> writes...t0 >>>}Two possibilities come to my fevered mind... >>>} i9 >>>}1. do a sho dev/file DISK: into a file, parse it and   >>>}stop/id= all non-zero id's; >>>}2. in DCL, set up a f$context to select/skip processes  = >>>}according to whatever criteria you need, and either just  ? >>>}stop/id them, or (better, in my opinion) get a 3-line prog  A >>>}that'll $FORCEX them - that will give the processes a chance t% >>>}to go through their exit handler.  >>>} o >>>}Mike >>>sF >>>Doing this where DISK = the system disk would be a really bad plan.C >>>Likewise for any disk where other non-user software is installedb= >>>(web server, IP stack, mail transport agent, Samba, etc.).h >>>oH >>>In other cases, it could cause data corruption. COnsider something asM >>>simple as a POP server. It is accessing the mail file and half way throughdH >>>modifying a record the process is nuked: sounds like a potential mail >>>file corruptor to me. >>>tJ >>>You'd need to be very careful about what you did or did not allow to beI >>>killed. Forget one thing from the list of "things not to kill" and you J >>>may create your very own personalized denial of service attack, or even >>>corrupt some data.h >>>o >>>--- Carlt >>>m >>>}DigiDemon wrote: >>>} nL >>>}>>:... Second, 2 questions....I've been trying to to snag a lil :proggieL >>>}>>called findlocks.com from DECUS, but to no avail...is there :something >>>}>>up with the site?g >>>}>>I >>>}>>  Um, what are you up to?  AMDS and Availability Manager and recentoN >>>}>>  versions of SDA are all quite good at tracking locks.  Though AMDS andM >>>}>>  Availability Manager are separately installed kits, they are licensed  >>>}>>  with OpenVMS.i >>>}>> >>>}>  >>>}> I >>>}> Actually, I think "findlocks" isn't what I'm looking for...I have a N >>>}> proggie that will find RMS locks (the real exciting thing here is that II >>>}> haven't a clue what those are :-D).  What I AM looking for is for alK >>>}> proggie that will find open files.  When I do a nightly backup of theeO >>>}> DEC, I will recieve some messages about certain files not being backed upnM >>>}> due to them being open.  Now some I can understand (log files open will J >>>}> most likely be open by the system account yes?)  But some aren't logK >>>}> files...and I'm guessing it's some user that has something open.  I'dtD >>>}> like to find out which user so I can smartly chastise them ;-) >>>}> N >>>}> And thanks for the GNU links...I will see if with the help of them I can= >>>}> install SSH and have everything running like a champ :)7 >>>}>  >>>}> Jamese >>>}>  >>>}-- mI >>>}---------------------------------------------------------------------a? >>>}Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not i >>>}even that.C >>>}Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il*  >>>  >>>h >> >>-- sG >>---------------------------------------------------------------------d= >>Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not f >>even that.A >>Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il*h1 >>Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice s >>(home):(972)-2-99083378 >>  "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes  >>another 80%"G >>--------------------------------------------------------------------- , >>------ GEEK CODE BLOCK (Version: 3.1)-----* >>GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++) >>N++ K? w--- V+++$ PS+ PE-- t X- tv-- b+  >>DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@d, >>---------- END GEEK CODE BLOCK  ---------- >> >>     -- tE ---------------------------------------------------------------------r; Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not .
 even that.? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il*a/ Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice 3 (home):(972)-2-99083377    "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes   another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------n* ------ GEEK CODE BLOCK (Version: 3.1)-----( GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++' N++ K? w--- V+++$ PS+ PE-- t X- tv-- b+_ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@Y* ---------- END GEEK CODE BLOCK  ----------   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2001 14:33:26 +0100 , From: "Bart Zorn" <B.Zorn@TrueBit.nospam.nl>. Subject: Re: SYS$EXAMPLES:DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM: Message-ID: <3be0fea4$0$1536$e4fe514c@newszilla.xs4all.nl>  H OK, this ECO applies to site which do not use either DTSS or the OpenVMS builtin time zone control.  ? However, there are still some problems ahead for sites that DO:   J At least the MET time zone rule (again, still, whatever) is wrong (OpenVMSF V7.3). It changes the DST on the 4th Sunday of March/October, where itH should be the LAST Sunday. Last weekend it didn't make a difference, but next March it will.e  H Now that I am on my soapbox, I would like to know if there is any chanceK that OpenVMS will ever allow ANSI time zones, like +02:00 and -05:00 ? PMDFiG on OpenVMS can do it, but if you can't afford that, you have to use thetJ cryptic acronyms. I live in the Netherlands and I have always thought thatJ to be Western Europe. With respect to Time zones it seems to have moved to, Middle Europe. But NOT to Central Europe ???   Regards,  	 Bart Zornn   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 19:07:54 +0010l% From: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.aub. Subject: Re: SYS$EXAMPLES:DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM5 Message-ID: <01KA788N468Y0072CP@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>   
 Bart said:  	 <snipped>.  L And as has often been told me whatever machine (NT grrr) that our mail goes M out from seems not to understand my VMS time.  I am sending this from .au at =F 19:07.  I've lost track of time differences until I can check with my M brother, but I think I am 9 hrs away from GMT.  My mail usually says 10 mins.r   Regards, Paddy   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 16:05:06 GMT_1 From: "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com>Y. Subject: Re: SYS$EXAMPLES:DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM2 Message-ID: <3BE17293.DAF7A0BE@clarityconnect.com>  E My understanding is that you are seeing the rule for the current yearpH and when 2002 rolls around you will see the correct rule for that year. G In other words the rule is correct for 2001 and you cannot see what theE8 rule will be for 2002 unless the actual time is in 2002.   Bart Zorn wrote:L > At least the MET time zone rule (again, still, whatever) is wrong (OpenVMSH > V7.3). It changes the DST on the 4th Sunday of March/October, where itJ > should be the LAST Sunday. Last weekend it didn't make a difference, but > next March it will.e   --  D Jilly	- Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NY0 	- jilly@clarityconnect.com			- Brett Bodine fan. 	- Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com			- since 1975 or so, 	- http://www.jilly.baka.com               -   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 05:54:13 -0800s( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)# Subject: Re: Unix-based, VMS-based?.= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0111010554.1c754ef3@posting.google.com>a  f young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) wrote in message news:<WgBGbk$19Ocr@eisner.encompasserve.org>...y > In article <TFVD7.633880$Lw3.39910066@news2.aus1.giganews.com>, "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@REMOVETHISossc.net> writes:o > G > >     The developers of MultiNet (TGV) were good programmers as well.p > 
 > 	Make that:a > 9 > 	The developers of MultiNet (TGV) ARE good programmers.e > D > 	And more importantly, they have a very keen/good sense of design.B > 	Multinet's model is superior to TCPIP Services.  As an example: >  > 		$ MULTINET CONFIG/SERVER >  > 	'Nuff Said! > 	 > 				Robt  O but even process will admit that tcpware still runs better on vms than multinet- or ucx, it's the kernel!   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 05:56:02 -0800h( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)# Subject: Re: Unix-based, VMS-based?d= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0111010556.698b71fc@posting.google.com>   | "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@REMOVETHISossc.net> wrote in message news:<TFVD7.633880$Lw3.39910066@news2.aus1.giganews.com>...7 > "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in messagec9 > news:d7791aa1.0110301820.42b00fba@posting.google.com...ED > > "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@REMOVETHISossc.net> wrote in message> >  news:<NKBD7.2950$tb2.211364@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>...   > > and people at processeI > > software today will tell you today how good the vms kernel really is,o > I >     I'm going to go out on a limb here and speak for myself.  I believefG >     that the VMS kernel is exceptional.  Being connected with the VMSeG >     group I have been able to see it in source, and read the commentsoI >     of the developers themselves.  VMS is full of foresight and design,16 >     something that I like to include in my own code. > 1 > > and how good of a vms ip stack tcpware is ...; > L >     So this is the opinion of current tcpware engineers about code writtenM >     by past tcpware engineers, and it is this opinion which forms the basiss@ >     of YOUR statement that a VMS-based kernel is better than a >     Unix-based one.e > " > > if your os kernel is that good >  >     And it is -- > J > > then i imagine any well written app that uses that kernel as its basisJ > > will outperform similar apps based on other kernels ... this is common > > sense, not rocket science! > H >     As a general claim, this may have merit.  If the code that you areF >     porting is basically algorithm with limited interaction with the > underlyingI >     operating system, does this claim still apply?  I don't believe so.n >   >     Common sense?  No comment.  F we are talking about tcp/ip stacks which are very kernel dependent ...   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 08:15:04 -0600y+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)f# Subject: Re: Unix-based, VMS-based?r3 Message-ID: <lygUxCfDcM1H@eisner.encompasserve.org>a  h In article <d7791aa1.0111010554.1c754ef3@posting.google.com>, bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) writes:h > young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) wrote in message news:<WgBGbk$19Ocr@eisner.encompasserve.org>...z >> In article <TFVD7.633880$Lw3.39910066@news2.aus1.giganews.com>, "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@REMOVETHISossc.net> writes: >> tH >> >     The developers of MultiNet (TGV) were good programmers as well. >> r >> 	Make that: >> h: >> 	The developers of MultiNet (TGV) ARE good programmers. >> eE >> 	And more importantly, they have a very keen/good sense of design.iC >> 	Multinet's model is superior to TCPIP Services.  As an example:t >>   >> 		$ MULTINET CONFIG/SERVERs >>   >> 	'Nuff Said!w >> e
 >> 				Rob > Q > but even process will admit that tcpware still runs better on vms than multinetr > or ucx, it's the kernel!    D 	I've never had a problem with Multinet.  But then again, I spend a F 	good deal of time evaluating and applying patches.  So... the obviousB 	question is, how do you empirically measure "better?"  One answerA 	for me .... if products are equally robust , whichever is easierlF 	to manage and understand would be a strong argument for "betterness."  @ 	This could quickly devolve into a debate of "grasping concepts"B 	and "whatever you are used to", etc... that said... I've used andE 	managed TCPWARE, Multinet, TCPIP Services and in my opinion Multinetr? 	has them beat on manageability, THEREFORE is a better product.o   				Robd  t   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 13:20:05 -0500- From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca>s/ Subject: V7.2-2 in Canada? Release date in USA?r2 Message-ID: <AngE7.50691$Z2.758118@nnrp1.uunet.ca>  + Have any Canadian sites received 7.2-2 yet?t  K I seem to recall that some people in the newsgroup reported receiving theirf copies in September. I checkedJ http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/announce722.html but Compaq in theirH infinite wisdom decided to tell me today's date rather than the date theI page was last updated. (Mind you, if I look at the "Updated" meta data iniL the HTML code I would have to believe the 7.2-2 was announced "13-03-2000.")  J We are being told that shipping in Canada will not start until 7-DEC-2001,L but I hope that someone is giving us the wrong information and that shipping has already started.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:12:09 +0100i= From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <noone@dummy.com> % Subject: VMS at Intel on The Inquirerl) Message-ID: <3BE14A29.51A602BD@dummy.com>    An article at The Inquirer :) (http://www.theinquirer.net/01110105.htm)a   Intel's dependent on the Alpha   chip       Uses it to make Itanics   (   By Mike Magee, 01/11/2001 10:35:04 BST  6   WE WONDERED WHY DOUG BUSCH, the IT manager at Intel,>   went all coy on us yesterday when we asked about the systemsC   running in its factories (fabrication plants) and a little bit ofw(   investigation has revealed the answer.  A   Its fabs are heavily dependent on Alpha microprocessors and runSE   OpenVMS to ensure that blue screens of death or glitches in its own-.   chips don't bring the production lines down.  F   Intel's long term plan was to migrate to the Merced processor but asB   we know that took longer to get to the starting gate than anyone   expected.-  >   For some time, La used VAX/VMS software such as Consilium toC   run the different lines and we are reliably informed it was stillt buying0   Vax 7000 and Vax 10000 machines up until 1996.  F   No one wanted to bow down at the shrine of the alien Alpha chip but,E   let's face it, Merced was late and so it contracted a big deal with  theh5   Big Q a few years back to convert to Alpha and VMS.-  E   That process is now finished, but unfortunately by the terms of theG@   agreement, Compaq is unable to shout out to the world that theB   Alpha chip is so good that it's even used to make Pentium 4s and
   Merceds.  @   But now the game has changed because VMS is, as we believe, toB   be ported to the Intel IA-64 architecture, with the first of the systemsc(   booting maybe at the end of next year.  =   But when will we see a production and rugged version of VMSo*   running on a post-McKinley architecture?  C   Maybe 2005, or 2004 if everything goes swimmingly, which it nevert   does.   9   And that's why Intella thinks the Alpha is fabtastic.     The Inquirer t   Jan-Erik Sderholm.p   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 08:15:17 -0800 % From: Dean Woodward <deanw@rdrop.com>p) Subject: Re: VMS at Intel on The Inquirer)) Message-ID: <3BE17515.9B06CAA6@rdrop.com>y   Jan-Erik Svderholm wrote:t >  > An article at The Inquirer :+ > (http://www.theinquirer.net/01110105.htm)  > % > Intel's dependent on the Alpha chipe  D Where have they been hiding all this time that this is *news*?  I'veG known that Intel runs it's fabs on VMS, on VAX and more recently Alpha, D for over a decade- before I was actually familiar with VMS, for that matter.r  H And there's a c.o.v. reader out there somewhere who works for Intel; one% presumes to maintain the VMS systems.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 09:14:21 -08002 From: "Randy Park" <rjpark@mindspring.com.nospaam>) Subject: Re: VMS at Intel on The Inquirer 3 Message-ID: <9rs00q$t0g$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>v  5 Jan-Erik Sderholm <noone@dummy.com> wrote in messagen# news:3BE14A29.51A602BD@dummy.com...t > An article at The Inquirer :+ > (http://www.theinquirer.net/01110105.htm)r >.  > Intel's dependent on the Alpha >   chip >d >   Uses it to make Itanicsk > * >   By Mike Magee, 01/11/2001 10:35:04 BST >u8 >   WE WONDERED WHY DOUG BUSCH, the IT manager at Intel,@ >   went all coy on us yesterday when we asked about the systemsE >   running in its factories (fabrication plants) and a little bit ofe* >   investigation has revealed the answer. >cC >   Its fabs are heavily dependent on Alpha microprocessors and runrG >   OpenVMS to ensure that blue screens of death or glitches in its own 0 >   chips don't bring the production lines down. >uH >   Intel's long term plan was to migrate to the Merced processor but asD >   we know that took longer to get to the starting gate than anyone
 >   expected.  > @ >   For some time, La used VAX/VMS software such as Consilium toE >   run the different lines and we are reliably informed it was still  > buying2 >   Vax 7000 and Vax 10000 machines up until 1996. >:H >   No one wanted to bow down at the shrine of the alien Alpha chip but,G >   let's face it, Merced was late and so it contracted a big deal withe > ther7 >   Big Q a few years back to convert to Alpha and VMS.t > G >   That process is now finished, but unfortunately by the terms of thegB >   agreement, Compaq is unable to shout out to the world that theD >   Alpha chip is so good that it's even used to make Pentium 4s and >   Merceds. >bB >   But now the game has changed because VMS is, as we believe, toD >   be ported to the Intel IA-64 architecture, with the first of the	 > systems * >   booting maybe at the end of next year. >o? >   But when will we see a production and rugged version of VMSi, >   running on a post-McKinley architecture? >iE >   Maybe 2005, or 2004 if everything goes swimmingly, which it never 	 >   does.o >.; >   And that's why Intella thinks the Alpha is fabtastic. r >   The Inquirer >  > Jan-Erik Sderholm.h    < Here's another flash that is not well known.  Microsoft used: VAX/VMS systems to run their business from the early 1980s; until 1997.  They had one of the largest Vaxclusters in thee7 Seattle area.  They used the Maxcim software package. Ie: personally know that they were using the Order Processing,< Receivables, and Payables modules.  I suspect that they also4 used some of the manufacturing modules in the 1980s.  < How do I know these things?  I sold them software to enhance; the Maxcim package and I knew people in their IT departmentS quite well.   > They starting switching to SAP on W2K using SQL Server in 1996= but their first attempt failed performance testing.  They hadu@ to wait until the row locking feature was working in SQL Server.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 18:01:14 GMTh4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>) Subject: Re: VMS at Intel on The Inquirerh9 Message-ID: <K5gE7.896$kw.454646@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>e  2 "Dean Woodward" <deanw@rdrop.com> wrote in message# news:3BE17515.9B06CAA6@rdrop.com...u > Jan-Erik Svderholm wrote:m > >a  > > An article at The Inquirer :- > > (http://www.theinquirer.net/01110105.htm)n > >?' > > Intel's dependent on the Alpha chip  > F > Where have they been hiding all this time that this is *news*?  I'veI > known that Intel runs it's fabs on VMS, on VAX and more recently Alpha,nF > for over a decade- before I was actually familiar with VMS, for that	 > matter.  >   H You've known it, I've known it (and first wrote about it nearly a decade5 ago), but apparently the trade press doesn't know it.-  / Sounds like a job for the Marketing Department.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 13:44:05 -0500 ! From: Beyonder <beyonder@vrx.net>t Subject: vms mail questions 8 Message-ID: <qu53uts2v3o3aa2ue0dpd2qd626nublviq@4ax.com>  @ With VMS mail, how do you setup aliases or .forward type things?   B.    @ -----=  Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News  =-----A http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! @  Check out our new Unlimited Server. No Download or Time Limits!@ -----==  Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers!  ==-----   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:09:52 GMTO& From: "john nixon" <jnixon@cfl.rr.com> Subject: VMS721_DRIVER-V0300: Message-ID: <QIcE7.218$4Q3.131684@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com>  J We attempted t load the above mentioned ECO on our test system.   This ECOI is for th DU and the TU driver.  Although this test system (An Alpha DS10sI with VMS 7.2-1) does not have any DU or TU devices ,we always try to testeI every change prior to installing on a production system.  We received theaG following error:   (now what)?   I have not seen the actual command thejH system manager used.  We have not shutdown and rebooted this system yet.    7 The following product will be installed to destination:-F     DEC AXPVMS VMS721_DRIVER V3.0          DISK$ALPHASYS:[VMS$COMMON.]  " Portion done: 0%...20%...60%...70%K %DCL-W-NOCOMD, no command on line - reenter with alphabetic first character-K ...100%NOCOMD, no command on line - reenter with alphabetic first character   ) The following product has been installed:pE     DEC AXPVMS VMS721_DRIVER V3.0          Patch (maintenance update)e  9 DEC AXPVMS VMS721_DRIVER V3.0: OpenVMS V7.2-1 DRIVER V3.0p  /     VMS721_DRIVER-V0300 Release notes availablee    F            Release notes for the VMS721_DRIVER-V0300 kit are available(            at SYS$COMMON:[000000.SYSHLP]   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 16:37:50 GMTh1 From: "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com>h  Subject: Re: VMS721_DRIVER-V03002 Message-ID: <3BE17A3F.17858560@clarityconnect.com>  D This is an error in a post install script and is cosmetic.  You willG find that the images were copied correctly.  This issue is being worked+0 and a new kit will be released when it is fixed.   john nixon wrote:  > L > We attempted t load the above mentioned ECO on our test system.   This ECOK > is for th DU and the TU driver.  Although this test system (An Alpha DS10mK > with VMS 7.2-1) does not have any DU or TU devices ,we always try to test K > every change prior to installing on a production system.  We received the7I > following error:   (now what)?   I have not seen the actual command theEJ > system manager used.  We have not shutdown and rebooted this system yet. > 9 > The following product will be installed to destination: H >     DEC AXPVMS VMS721_DRIVER V3.0          DISK$ALPHASYS:[VMS$COMMON.] > $ > Portion done: 0%...20%...60%...70%M > %DCL-W-NOCOMD, no command on line - reenter with alphabetic first charactermM > ...100%NOCOMD, no command on line - reenter with alphabetic first characters > + > The following product has been installed:-G >     DEC AXPVMS VMS721_DRIVER V3.0          Patch (maintenance update)l > ; > DEC AXPVMS VMS721_DRIVER V3.0: OpenVMS V7.2-1 DRIVER V3.0S > 1 >     VMS721_DRIVER-V0300 Release notes available> > H >            Release notes for the VMS721_DRIVER-V0300 kit are available* >            at SYS$COMMON:[000000.SYSHLP]   -- uD Jilly	- Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NY0 	- jilly@clarityconnect.com			- Brett Bodine fan. 	- Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com			- since 1975 or so, 	- http://www.jilly.baka.com               -   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 16:18:35 GMTh1 From: "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com> * Subject: Re: VMS721_Mount96-v0300 Question2 Message-ID: <3BE175BC.3357A6D3@clarityconnect.com>  C You need to wait for the V0200 kit to be released.  From my look atl( things it appears that it should be RSN.  D PSDC has had a history of crashing systems when it restarts/starts. ' Getting the dump to CA is the 1st step.-   john nixon wrote:e > M > So; do we use the V0100 kit, or do we wait for the one the Mount96 kit asks: > for? > N > It was getting a little frustrating.  I saw a fibre-scsi kit which I thoughtN > I should install on my new ES40s.  I read the cover letter, and found that IL > should also apply the SYS-V1100 kit and the MOUNT96 kit.  The cover letterK > for MOUNT96 said I also  needed the SYS1100, and the CLIUTL-V0200 kit.  I L > was wondering what the CLIUTL kit was going to require, so I spent quite aK > bit of time looking for it, but I couldn't find it.  I thought I was just : > being dense, so I kept looking and checking my spelling. > J > (Now, back to trying to find out why my ES40 crashes every time I try toM > start DECPS  (Actually, C.A.'s Adviseit).  It crashes when connecting SWA0:nG > Now, I have to figure out how to create a dumpfile on my fibre disk.)  > > > "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com> wrote in message. > news:3BE0484E.7EF02264@clarityconnect.com...I > > I would expect that it hasn't been released yet but will be soon.  We7H > > are working on our patch process to make this type of occurance less$ > > frequent so please bear with us. > >w > > Rick Dyson wrote:1 > > >wN > > > In the docs for this ECO, it mentions a remedial kit that is recommended > is > > >7! > > >         VMS721_CLIUTL-v0200o > > >m& > > > However, I can only find -v0100. > > >SK > > > Can anyone address whether this is a typo, -v0200 is missing from thea
 > servers,4 > > > or -v0200 is coming and just not released yet? > > >y
 > > > Thanks!o
 > > > Rick > >r > > --H > > Jilly - Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NY1 > > - jilly@clarityconnect.com - Brett Bodine fan / > > - Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com - since 1975 or soe/ > > - http://www.jilly.baka.com               -e > >    -- fD Jilly	- Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NY0 	- jilly@clarityconnect.com			- Brett Bodine fan. 	- Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com			- since 1975 or so, 	- http://www.jilly.baka.com               -   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 10:45:54 -0800 , From: dframeli@aus.telusa.com (Dale Frameli)) Subject: Web Browser for OpenVMS 1.5-1H1?V< Message-ID: <de844d64.0111011045.f02dee1@posting.google.com>  B Is there a web browser that will work with OpenVMS v1.5-1H1?  It'sE doesn't have to have all the bells and whistles, just as long as it's ? functional :)  Does anyone know if Netscape has an obsolete VMS C friendly version of their browser in their archives?  Mosiac maybe?   *   Please reply to: dframeli@aus.telusa.com   Thanks Dale   ------------------------------   Date: 1 Nov 2001 06:03:27 -0800g( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)M Subject: Windows 2000 outperforms XP by 27 percent!  Better buy 2 processors!a< Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0111010603.6688e9a@posting.google.com>  D want to run XP?  better buy 2 processors systems to do it!  read ...* better keep making those alphas compaq ...    ' http://www.theinquirer.net/01110104.htme     WinXP trashed by Windows 2000    Except with two CPUs c& By Mike Magee, 01/11/2001 10:10:24 BST  F TESTS COMMISSIONED by influential US magazine Infoworld appear to show7 that Windows 2000 significantly outperforms Windows XP.c? And the tests indicate that if corporations insist on moving to9F Windows XP, they should consider buying dual processor systems to make the week-old OS sing.   C Benchmarks run by the magazine showed that certain tests ran 27 per.? cent slower on WinXP than on the OS it was designed to replace.)  D And, in the picturesque language of the Wild West, XP "ate the dust" of the older operating system.  C But when the OSes were tested on dual systems, Windows XP performed  better.M  B We'd suspect most corporations would not invest in dual systems to* take advantage of the sweet XP confection.  B The report said that until 2GHz desktop machines are widespread itF would not recommend upgrading to WinXP. You can find the article here.  C http://www.infoworld.com/articles/tc/xml/01/10/29/011029tcwinxp.xml    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 14:05:51 +0100 ( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>, Subject: Re: Windows XP reality check please- Message-ID: <VA.000004ac.1a543deb@bluewin.ch>T  @ In article <3BDCBBB8.4CB5406F@prodigy.net>, Cjt & trefoil wrote: > Paul Sture wrote:e > >  > <snip>U > > I believe I saw the comment during the XP launch that it would save us an hour ofMP > > lost time per week. 48 weeks x 5 years x hourly rate comes to a nice invoice > > figure.- > > G > > Multiply by the number of PCs at work and it is indeed a large sum.t > >  > > ___e > > Paul Sture > > Switzerland. > O > So you would suggest the advertising slogan: "Windows XP -- it wastes less ofc' > your time than our earlier products?"2 >y
 I like it :-)t ___a
 Paul Sture Switzerlande   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 08:59:37 +0000/% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>e/ Subject: Re: X.25 profile documentation wanted.i8 Message-ID: <9a32utcmkqesvjnus10gua96a9qj6ul1vj@4ax.com>  C On Wed, 31 Oct 2001 18:29:35 +0100, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote:   P >A tape with the latest software is on its way from Compaq. As you know softwareR >support for the Decnis ended febr. 1st of this year, so now we get V4.1-10, dated >march 2001 ?1?.  @ When was the last sale date for the DECNIS? If it was later thanE 1-FEB-1996 then support should not have ended on 1-FEB-2001 according0A to the letter we received signed by Michael Capellas. An absolute D minimum of 5 years hardware and software support should be availableE after date of last sale although I am still awaiting clarification on.> Storageworks items which have ben retired from full support in violation of this promise.  A Or did the DECNIS go to DNPG? If so do they not still support it?G  U >I've studied the profiles you've sent me. I noticed there are two ISO profiles, 8208sP >and 8881. And there is a Net2 profile, that seems also to be a kind of ISO-likeV >profile (international). A the moment I'm using ISO8208 on the synchronous interfacesV >and ISO8881 on the ethernet interfaces. I suppose with a relay service it should bothA >be ISO8208, so I will try to change the ethernet to ISO8208 too.g >r	 >Regards,t >i >Dirko >e >"a.carlini" wrote:  >  >> Dirk Munk wrote:o >> >U >> > The Decnis is used as a X.25 relay server between the X.25 network and the Tru64SQ >> > systems. Connection between Decnis and Tru64 systems is established via LLC2mR >> > links over ethernet. The problem is that it is not a public X.25 network ( inR >> > the Netherlands that would be Datanet-1 ), but a special X.25 network used toP >> > connect national and international telephone switches. Do you have any idea >>3 >> Ask the switch manufacturer whether they support 0 >> ISO8208, configure the switch to use that and& >> set the DECnis to use that profile. >>U >> > where I can find the latest version of the Decnis software (which VMS CD kit ford >> > instance) ?.u >>/ >> For the latest software, I think you need toe >> go to COMPAQ. >>
 >> Antonio >> >> --e >> >> ---------------0 >> Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.org   -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2001 11:35:58 +0100a= From: Oswald Knoppers <Oswald.Knoppers@contrastmediagroep.nl>h/ Subject: Re: X.25 profile documentation wanted. 5 Message-ID: <3BE1258E.FBC8D54F@contrastmediagroep.nl>    Dirk Munk wrote:  V > I've studied the profiles you've sent me. I noticed there are two ISO profiles, 8208Q > and 8881. And there is a Net2 profile, that seems also to be a kind of ISO-likeeW > profile (international). A the moment I'm using ISO8208 on the synchronous interfaces W > and ISO8881 on the ethernet interfaces. I suppose with a relay service it should both'B > be ISO8208, so I will try to change the ethernet to ISO8208 too.  F No, on llc2 you need to use the ISO8881 profile. The DECnis will relay
 just fine.   Regards,   Oswald   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.608 ************************