1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 04 Nov 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 614       Contents:4 Re: 733Mhz 21264cpus on Ebay What are they good for? Re: Compaq guarantees? Re: Compaq guarantees? Re: Compaq guarantees?P RE: How to connect a DS20 to a Fibre  channel SAN switch an that one to a hsg80?: RE: Kerberos Client on OpenVMS, CSWS/APACHE, MOD_AUTH_KERB Re: vms mail questions  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 09:51:00 +0100  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>= Subject: Re: 733Mhz 21264cpus on Ebay What are they good for? & Message-ID: <3BE50170.582854A@home.nl>  & --------------71246B750B7B200C4F35D618* Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   J A 733 MHz version is/was used in Wildfire systems. Don't know of course if that applies to these CPU's .    Peter Watkinson wrote:   > Hi,  > G > Some guy is selling 21264 cpu's on Ebay.com by the tray load and if i F > read him right he has 15 trays with 8 on a tray. There is no reserveC > and they are currently running at $125 each for each cpu I think.  > C > http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1292784823  > C > My question is what are these cpus suitable for? They are branded H > Samsumg EV67. Are they for an API DP264 motherboard? They can't be forE > a UP2000 because they are flip chip not Slot. Are they for a Compaq < > system? Not an XP1000 because that only goes up to 667mhz? >  > Any help appreciated.  >  > Kind regards,  >  > Peter Watkinson  > peterw@u.genie.co.uk  & --------------71246B750B7B200C4F35D618) Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   > <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html>G A 733 MHz version is/was used in Wildfire systems. Don't know of course   if that applies to these CPU's . <p>Peter Watkinson wrote:  <blockquote TYPE=CITE>Hi, F <p>Some guy is selling 21264 cpu's on Ebay.com by the tray load and if i H <br>read him right he has 15 trays with 8 on a tray. There is no reserveE <br>and they are currently running at $125 each for each cpu I think.  <p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1292784823">http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&amp;item=1292784823</a>D <p>My question is what are these cpus suitable for? They are brandedF <br>Samsumg EV67. Are they for an API DP264 motherboard? They can't be for G <br>a UP2000 because they are flip chip not Slot. Are they for a Compaq > <br>system? Not an XP1000 because that only goes up to 667mhz? <p>Any help appreciated. <p>Kind regards, <p>Peter Watkinson% <br>peterw@u.genie.co.uk</blockquote>  </html>   ( --------------71246B750B7B200C4F35D618--   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Nov 2001 16:10:55 GMT 0 From: Dave Cherkus <cherkus777@777unimaster.com> Subject: Re: Compaq guarantees? 2 Message-ID: <Xns914F71A48C89Fidtoken@199.125.85.9>  7 "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote in 4 news:gtLE7.3437$kw.1420394@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net: I > I still don't see why Compaq or cHomPaq or Hewlett PAQard would scuttle ! > the Alpha products in question.   5 Although I don't want to see it, here's one scenario:    - Merger happens in Spring 02 F   - HPaq combined balance sheet looks miserable due to poor x86 server>     sales, etc. (the Great Internet Buildout still is on hold)8   - EV7 won't bring in any significant revenue till Q103?   - Building Marvels will take tons of capital spending in FY02 8   - There's no cash laying around to cover this spendingB   - Banks don't trust Carly and Curly so they won't lend the money)   - Carly and Curly shut down the project   ( Feel free to invent your own scenario... Dave   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2001 16:54:33 GMT 4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> Subject: Re: Compaq guarantees? ; Message-ID: <dpeF7.4735$MI.1685953@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>   = "Dave Cherkus" <cherkus777@777unimaster.com> wrote in message , news:Xns914F71A48C89Fidtoken@199.125.85.9...9 > "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote in 5 > news:gtLE7.3437$kw.1420394@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net: K > > I still don't see why Compaq or cHomPaq or Hewlett PAQard would scuttle # > > the Alpha products in question.  > 7 > Although I don't want to see it, here's one scenario: ! >   - Merger happens in Spring 02 H >   - HPaq combined balance sheet looks miserable due to poor x86 server@ >     sales, etc. (the Great Internet Buildout still is on hold): >   - EV7 won't bring in any significant revenue till Q103A >   - Building Marvels will take tons of capital spending in FY02 : >   - There's no cash laying around to cover this spendingD >   - Banks don't trust Carly and Curly so they won't lend the money+ >   - Carly and Curly shut down the project  > * > Feel free to invent your own scenario...  I A band of Usenet denizens (that's US) gets together and forms The Phoenix F Processor Group, purchases the Marvel franchise, and deploys same. ;-}  D Your scenario is not implausible, but without information on capitalH spending, etc, it's difficult to determine how much has been invested inL Marvel and how much remains to be invested before the product sees the lightJ of day. (32-processor Marvels have been running for more than a month now,A up from 2-way in July, 8-way in August, and 16-way in September).   K If the unthinkable were to happen and Marvel got nuked, the fate of OpenVMS D would be pretty well sealed. As would a significant chunk of Hewlett PAQard's profits.   6 And Gates, Grove, and McNealy would inherit the earth.   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Nov 2001 17:03:17 GMT 1 From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)  Subject: Re: Compaq guarantees? , Message-ID: <9s3scl$2p46$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>  ; In article <dpeF7.4735$MI.1685953@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, 7  "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes:  |>  9 |> And Gates, Grove, and McNealy would inherit the earth.  |>    G That's not as sure a thing as you might imagine.  Our department which, E other than our Major courses, teaches the mandatory Computer Literacy G courses has recently started discussing alternatives to MS products and F wether or not we should consider using things like StarOffice in theseG courses.  It was also brought up in the recently mentioned meeting with G the U's head of IT if any consideration was being given to changing the H administrative standard to something other than MS.  The seeds have been4 sown and we are not the only place talking this way.   bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 09:48:47 -0500+ From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com> Y Subject: RE: How to connect a DS20 to a Fibre  channel SAN switch an that one to a hsg80? R Message-ID: <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4D562B5@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>   Rich,   = As previous replies stated, if you do not have any experience H connectiing a host system (on any platform) to a SAN, it would likely beH a good idea to contract someone for a few days of to assist you with the? initial setup, configuration, tuning and backup considerations.   E More additional information specific to OpenVMS and SANs can be found  at: 6 http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/fibre/index.html  F Reference Table 1 at the end of the page for updated VMS configuration doc's ..   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  Compaq Canada Corp.  Professional Services  Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com     -----Original Message-----# From: Rich [mailto:richv@mail4u.nl]  Sent: November 2, 2001 10:51 AM  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com H Subject: How to connect a DS20 to a Fibre channel SAN switch an that one to a hsg80??     Hi all,   E I recieved some beautifull equipment over here, an Alpha server DS20, E a hsg80 including 256Mb cache and a fibrechannel San. I do now how to A connect the hsg to the server. But i haven't a single clue how to / connect the SAN between them. Can anybody help?    Youre help is apriciated,    Rich   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 09:37:35 -0500+ From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@compaq.com> C Subject: RE: Kerberos Client on OpenVMS, CSWS/APACHE, MOD_AUTH_KERB R Message-ID: <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4D562B4@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>   James,  F >>> How can I find information concerning the porting our applications to Kerberos authentication? <<<   . The following is likely a good place to start:B http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/kerberos/index.html   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  Compaq Canada Corp.  Professional Services  Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com     -----Original Message-----) From: James T Horn [mailto:horn@shsu.edu]  Sent: November 2, 2001 10:35 AM  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com C Subject: Re: Kerberos Client on OpenVMS, CSWS/APACHE, MOD_AUTH_KERB     6 "Rick Barry" <barry@star.zko.dec.com> wrote in message/ news:<EPbE7.1193$RL6.17487@news.cpqcorp.net>... - > <david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk> wrote in message ' > news:9rpird$m77$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk...  > [snip]C > > Just downloaded and setup the Kerberos Security Client for VMS.  > > 3 > > Good news it included a full Kerberos 5 Server. F > > Bad news it didn't seem to do anything to modify Telnet , FTP etc.G > > Contacted Compaq. Seems DEC TCPIP services will not have Kerberized  >  versions = > > of Telnet, FTP etc until at least DEC TCPIP Services 5.3.  > > @ > > Why on earth bother to release this (with the Title Kerberos Security
 >  Client)) > > without Kerberizing Telnet, FTP etc ?  > >  > > David Webb > > VMS and Unix team leader > > CCSS > > Middlesex University >=20H > We made the choice to ship the Kerberos client/server rather than wait for E > Kerberized"applications. That way, users/ISVs will have a supported  KerberosE > API to begin porting their favorite Kerberos app plus they'd have a  KDC  > running on VMS.  >=20* > Kerberized Telnet, etc. are coming next. >=20 > Rick Barry > OpenVMS engineering  > Compaq Computer Corporation  > Nashua, NH  E How can I find information concerning the porting our applications to  Kerberos authentication?   ------------------------------  * Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2001 18:49:12 +0000 (UTC) From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk Subject: Re: vms mail questions + Message-ID: <9s42j8$jsl$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>   c In article <eGtmYml5HJRe@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: ] >In article <gum3ut0mapjau3ll9lliktafca06e1gkp6@4ax.com>, Beyonder <beyonder@vrx.net> writes: * >> Does this work with non-existant users?9 >> Like I want my account with several different aliases? H >> can aliases be email addresses that don't exist on the current system >> (internet email addresses) ?  >>  0 >> like: root is an alias to system for example,: >> or root is an alias to someguy@hotmail.com for example. > X >http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/73final/6489/6489pro_contents_002.html#toc_chapter_6    F Yes it works with non-existent users so long as you have the privilege (ie SYSNAM and SYSPRIV).   MAIL> show forward/user=root  5 %MAIL-E-NOSYSNAM, operation requires SYSNAM privilege   " MAIL> set forward/user=root system5 %MAIL-E-NOSYSPRV, operation requires SYSPRV privilege      From a privileged account    Alpha1:mcr authorize show root, %UAF-W-BADSPC, no user matches specification     MAIL> show forward/user=root% ROOT has not set a forwarding address   " MAIL> set forward/user=root system   MAIL> show forward/user=root! ROOT has mail forwarded to SYSTEM     @ And exactly the same with internet addresses rather than system.      
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.614 ************************