1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 10 Nov 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 626       Contents: Re: Compaq guarantees? Re: Compaq/HP merger in trouble  Re: Compaq/HP merger in trouble  Re: Compaq/HP merger in trouble  Re: Compaq/HP merger in trouble  Re: Compaq/HP merger in trouble  Re: Compaq/HP merger in trouble  Re: Comparison of defragmenters  Configuring TCP/IP for VMS Re: Configuring TCP/IP for VMS Re: Configuring TCP/IP for VMSD Re: Editing DCL command lines longer than the current terminal width Re: Emacs-2[01] on VMS6 ES40 Model 2 VMS EIP for $11,595  with 1 Year Warranty Re: FORMATTING A FLOPPY  Re: FORMATTING A FLOPPY 2 Re: Hewlett family votes "NO" on HP-Compaq merger!2 Re: Hewlett family votes "NO" on HP-Compaq merger!2 Re: Hewlett family votes "NO" on HP-Compaq merger!2 Re: Hewlett family votes "NO" on HP-Compaq merger!2 Re: Hewlett family votes "NO" on HP-Compaq merger!2 Re: Hewlett family votes "NO" on HP-Compaq merger!B HP co-founder's son hires firm to gather opposition to Compaq deal ppp to DECserver 700 Re: ppp to DECserver 700 Purveyor and VMS 7.3 SAMBA on VAX samba on VAX# Re: Transparent RMS access to TCPIP C Re: VMS 7.1 Alpha installation on PWS 433a (with correct SCSI card) C Re: VMS 7.1 Alpha installation on PWS 433a (with correct SCSI card) C Re: VMS 7.1 Alpha installation on PWS 433a (with correct SCSI card) C Re: VMS 7.1 Alpha installation on PWS 433a (with correct SCSI card) / Re: VMS upgrade and SCSI disk firmware question   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 10 Nov 2001 02:20:32 -0500) From: tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot Simon)  Subject: Re: Compaq guarantees? + Message-ID: <9sikg0$4av$1@panix1.panix.com>   M In article <9sd3tn$qjh@web.nmti.com>, Peter da Silva <peter@abbnm.com> wrote: - >In article <3BE992C1.1B78EEC1@videotron.ca>, 0 >JF Mezei  <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote:O >> It is reasonable to expect that VMS will continue to be maintained on Alpha. O >> It is also reasonable to expect a few more enhancements. Compaq/HP may cease Q >> to sell/market VMS, but they'll continue to milk the customers for their money * >> and work to provide HP "upgrade" paths. > 2 >Maybe Compaq may need VMS more than they thought: > H >http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?column=TechWatch&siteid=mktw  > H >I hope Compaq can start up the EV8 development again. They may need to.  ' Heh.  Maybe they should merge with SGI.    --  J Thor Lancelot Simon	                                      tls@rek.tjls.comL     And now he couldn't remember when this passion had flown, leaving him so1   foolish and bewildered and astray: can any man?  						   William Styron    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:32:29 GMT ( From: "JeanLuc" <jeanLuc@Enterprise.com>( Subject: Re: Compaq/HP merger in trouble4 Message-ID: <1UaH7.545$lBx.7864460@news.randori.com>  K Just remember that the first "Tandem" NonStop system was designed by people  at HP back in the early 70's. G HP said there was no market for it, so the people broke away and formed  Tandem. < What reason is there to think that HP has anymore sense now?   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:35:00 GMT ( From: "JeanLuc" <jeanLuc@Enterprise.com>( Subject: Re: Compaq/HP merger in trouble4 Message-ID: <nWaH7.549$lBx.7012434@news.randori.com>  3 Compaq bought Tandem to stop the Wolf Pack project, ' then bought DEC to kill the Alpha chip. K They never had any real interest in the high end server business and it has  suffered ever since.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:37:53 GMT ) From: Peter Hern <Peter.Hern@Compute.com> ( Subject: Re: Compaq/HP merger in trouble+ Message-ID: <3BED3DE1.4225663C@Compute.com>    From: H  http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/314/business/Business_in_brief+.shtml   Hewlett turns up heat   R Hewlett-Packard Co. director Walter Hewlett, son of a company cofounder, has hiredN MacKenzie Partners Inc., a proxy-solicitation firm, as he opposes the computerN maker's planned $20.5 billion purchase of Compaq Computer Corp. Hewlett familyO members and the William R. Hewlett Revocable Trust said Tuesday that they would O vote their 5 percent stake against the deal. The move may signal the start of a N proxy battle to control the direction of the firm, and investors expect WalterP Hewlett, who had said he hadn't decided how strongly to fight the deal, to go on the offensive. (Bloomberg)       "K.Bonechoker" wrote:   D > http://www.computerworld.com/storyba/0,4125,NAV47_STO65448,00.html > I > Dan Kusnetzky, an analyst at IDC in Framingham, Mass., said the Hewlett L > family is probably concerned about the loss of business from Fortune 1,000J > companies when products from Tandem and Digital -- acquired by Compaq in > 1997 -- are phased out.  > K > "They're planning to retire those products as soon as possible [after the K > merger]. Anyone using those products will strike back by buying them from  > competitors," said Kusnetzky.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:42:04 GMT ) From: Peter Hern <Peter.Hern@Compute.com> ( Subject: Re: Compaq/HP merger in trouble+ Message-ID: <3BED3EDB.FD2E90AA@Compute.com>    From: R  http://quote.bloomberg.com/fgcgi.cgi?T=marketsquote99_news.ht&s=AO_xyzhXRQ29tcGFx  < Compaq's Perkins Says Acquisition Is Misunderstood (Update1) By Peter J. Brennan   N San Francisco, Nov. 9 (Bloomberg) -- Compaq Computer Corp. board member ThomasK Perkins said Hewlett-Packard Co.'s planned purchase of Compaq is opposed by J Hewlett and Packard family members because they don't understand the deal.  L ``I don't think they know the company or the industry,'' Perkins, founder ofL venture-capital firm Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, said in an interview.M ``Neither one has exposure to the inner beauty of Compaq. To reject it before N you know what it's all about -- I don't like it and I was surprised by that.''  O Walter Hewlett and David W. Packard, sons of Hewlett-Packard Co.'s co-founders, L this week said they oppose the second-biggest computer maker's planned $20.5L billion purchase of Compaq. Today, Walter Hewlett hired a proxy-solicitationI firm, a sign he will fight the acquisition. Together, the pair along with G siblings and their foundations control about 6.3 percent of the shares.   M The David and Lucile Packard Foundation, which controls another 10 percent of > the shares, hasn't decided whether to support the acquisition.I Hewlett-Packard's shares have fallen 18 percent since the acquisition was 7 announced on Sept. 3. Compaq's have dropped 37 percent.   M Hewlett-Packard shares rose 64 cents to $18.99 today. Compaq, the No. 2 maker . of personal computers, fell 26 cents to $7.73.   Hewlett's Response  L Perkins said he was about to make presentations to the boards of foundationsI linked to the family members to explain the acquisition. He said the pair 8 should have waited until they received more information.  L ``I cannot understand why they did it when they did it,'' he said. ``I don't& know why they felt had to do it now.''  I Walter Hewlett spokeswoman Joele Frank said Hewlett's foundation has been ? advised by outside experts that the acquisition isn't worth it.   O ``Let's point out that shareholder value declined over $12 billion prior to Mr. M Hewlett's announcement that he was opposed,'' said Frank. ``Given the lack of I stockholder benefits, extensive integration risks are not worth taking.''   F Perkins said he was the first general manager of Hewlett- Packard's PCM business, reporting directly to co-founder David Packard. Perkins, whose firm F is one of the best-known venture- capital firms for funding technologyO startups, is a co-founder of Compaq and Tandem Computers Inc., which was bought G by Compaq. He said Hewlett-Packard's acquisition of Compaq makes sense.   N ``The synergies are compelling,'' said Perkins. ``Somewhere between $2 billionG and $3 billion to the bottom line. That's pretty powerful stuff. That's . achieved by a powerful mix of product lines.''   `Sell This Deal'  I Perkins praised Hewlett-Packard Chief Executive Officer Carly Fiorina for M having ``a good vision'' and Compaq CEO Michael Capellas for being ``a superb K manager.'' Still, he said the acquisition hasn't been ``well sold'' so far.   L ``There's an old saying, `When everything else fails, try selling.' We gottaL sell this deal,'' he said. ``We've made a good case to the customers and theK employees. We haven't made a good case to Wall Street although we have made  some progress with analysts.''  H Shareholders will eventually approve the acquisition, Perkins predicted.  L ``I think it will go through,'' he said. ``I don't think it will be easy. ItN makes sense. Eventually shareholders and the analysts will wake up to the fact" that the synergies are compelling.  L ``It would be bad for both companies if it doesn't happen. Walter Hewlett is  voting against his pocketbook.''     JeanLuc wrote:  M > Just remember that the first "Tandem" NonStop system was designed by people  > at HP back in the early 70's. I > HP said there was no market for it, so the people broke away and formed 	 > Tandem. > > What reason is there to think that HP has anymore sense now?   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:16:10 GMT  From: anon <anon@anon.com>( Subject: Re: Compaq/HP merger in trouble- Message-ID: <MPG.1656e4992baf0def9896c4@news>   5 In article <1UaH7.545$lBx.7864460@news.randori.com>,   jeanLuc@Enterprise.com says...M > Just remember that the first "Tandem" NonStop system was designed by people  > at HP back in the early 70's. I > HP said there was no market for it, so the people broke away and formed 	 > Tandem. > > What reason is there to think that HP has anymore sense now? >   C Because Fiorina and Capellas both said they see NSK as a strategic  E product. Because Compaq is continuing to increase their investment in  new development.    B In the '70s NonStop was an untried idea pitched to a non-existant  market. F Now it is at the top of the pyramid in one of the few good markets in  the industry.    ------------------------------   Date: 10 Nov 2001 09:08 CST ' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) ( Subject: Re: Compaq/HP merger in trouble- Message-ID: <10NOV200109083152@gerg.tamu.edu>   8 Andrew Swallow <andrew.swallow@baesystems.com> writes...% }Lets bring in some marketing theory.   	 Lets not.    [...] 5 }My view of HP is a seller of expensive oscilloscopes ! }and other tools for engineers.   8 }_______________________________________________________, }Andrew Swallow (7605) 2225   Cowes site, UK  < You are behind the times. HP does not produce oscilloscopes.= HP does not produce tools for engineers other than computers, 3 printers, and some other things along thoese lines.   > That part of HP was spun of in 1999 and is now called Agilent.  D Agilent is all the lab equipment (i.e. it's pretty much the original. HP) and HP is now just computer related stuff.   --- Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 12:01:34 -0500 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)( Subject: Re: Comparison of defragmentersL Message-ID: <rdeininger-1011011201340001@user-2iveakc.dialup.mindspring.com>  J In article <3BE9661D.650C07@127.0.0.1>, Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> wrote:  I > I've missed the original poster of this question seems ours news server $ > is short of space for articles :-( > 8 > Someone asked about DFO vs. PerfectDisk vs. Diskeeper. >  > I have not used DFO.  M I have used DFO for the past several years, and Diskeeper about 10 years ago.   E DFO does a good job defragmenting files and consolidating free space, F provided you give it time to work.  Its job is much easier if there isH plenty of free space; if a disk is more than 90% full or so, progress is slow.   O DFO can limit its usage of CPU time and Is per second to user-specified values.   A If you can take a disk off line for a few minutes so that DFO has J exclusive access, it can defragment the index file.  This saves re-initing& a disk just to get a clean index file.  J DFO will try to improve the placement of DORMANT and FREQUENT files if you
 ask it to.  G The full version of DFO includes a scheduler that can run defragmenting H jobs according to your needs.  I typically never look at DFO except when9 adding or removing a disk.  It just takes care of itself.   B The last time I checked prices, DFO was significantly cheaper thanC Diskeeper.  For sites with the CSLG or the educational licences (or F similar) DFO is "free".  Alas, the Hobbyist set does not include a DFO license.   --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 21:37:33 +0800   From: "TYFOO" <tyfoo@dsm.com.my># Subject: Configuring TCP/IP for VMS 7 Message-ID: <001501c169ec$dd189a60$05036b83@dsm.com.my>   , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C16A2F.E81B1260  Content-Type: text/plain;  	charset="iso-8859-1" + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   F Anyone know of a good resource somewhere on configuring TCP/IP for VMS@ 6.2-1H3? I just want to enable TCP/IP on this machine. Figure itH shouldn't be that difficult. I found the TCPIP command, but can't really figure out what to do with it.     -chong    + ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C16A2F.E81B1260  Content-Type: text/html; 	charset="iso-8859-1" + Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD>3 <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Diso-8859-1" =  http-equiv=3DContent-Type>9 <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.00.3315.2870" name=3DGENERATOR>  <STYLE></STYLE>  </HEAD>  <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>! <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> H <P>Anyone know of a good resource somewhere on configuring TCP/IP for=20D VMS<BR>6.2-1H3?&nbsp;I just want to enable TCP/IP on this machine. =	 Figure=20 J it<BR>shouldn't be that difficult. I found the TCPIP command, but can't=200 really<BR>figure out what to do with it.<BR></P>( <P>-chong</P></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>  - ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C16A2F.E81B1260--    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 16:59:34 +0300 4 From: "Ruslan R. Laishev" <laishev@smtp.deltatel.ru>' Subject: Re: Configuring TCP/IP for VMS 0 Message-ID: <3BED32C6.D496FB5A@smtp.deltatel.ru>  ) http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/#tcpip    > TYFOO wrote: > H > Anyone know of a good resource somewhere on configuring TCP/IP for VMSB > 6.2-1H3? I just want to enable TCP/IP on this machine. Figure itC > shouldn't be that difficult. I found the TCPIP command, but can't  > really  > figure out what to do with it. >  > -chong   --   Cheers, Ruslan. D +---------------------pure personal opinion------------------------+;       RADIUS Server for OpenVMS project - www.radiusvms.com 8         vms-isps@dls.net - Forum for ISP running OpenVMS*                  Mobile: +7 (901) 971-3222A    TKD (WTF) in Russia, St.-Petersburg - www.TaeKwonDo-WTF.SPb.RU    ------------------------------   Date: 10 Nov 2001 09:58 CST ' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) ' Subject: Re: Configuring TCP/IP for VMS - Message-ID: <10NOV200109582917@gerg.tamu.edu>   $ "TYFOO" <tyfoo@dsm.com.my> writes...- }This is a multi-part message in MIME format.   % First, don't post MIME to newsgroups.   G }Anyone know of a good resource somewhere on configuring TCP/IP for VMS A }6.2-1H3? I just want to enable TCP/IP on this machine. Figure it I }shouldn't be that difficult. I found the TCPIP command, but can't really  }figure out what to do with it.  }  }  }-chong     A Second, read the instructions. There are many VMS related manuals > accessable via www.openvms.compaq.com, or more specifically at# http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/   A Third, the basic configuration of products often involves running G command procedures. These are often found in the SYS$MANAGER directory. 0 Like, for example, SYS$MANAGER:TCPIP$CONFIG.COM.  E Fourth, starting these things automatically at boot is generally done = by editing an appropriate startup command proceedure, such as A SYS$MANAGER:SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM. If you look in there, there may be A a section about TCPIP startup that is commented out (I don't knowNG if it is in there for V6.2, and even if it was, it may have been editedpF out earlier - if it isn't there, check SYSTARTUP_VMS.TEMPLATE). (It isF probably something along the lines of "@SYS$STARTUP:TCPIP$STARTUP.COM)G Uncomment this so it will start at boot. You can also do the same thing < manually to get it running the first time without a reboot.   C Fifth, do the stuff I probably left out of the earlier suggestions.d   --- Carl   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Nov 2001 03:48:57 -0800) From: P.Young@unsw.EDU.AU (Patrick Young)hM Subject: Re: Editing DCL command lines longer than the current terminal widtht= Message-ID: <55f85d77.0111100348.4478c741@posting.google.com>t  l Forrest Kenney <Forrest.Kenney@compaq.com.doom> wrote in message news:<3BEC0750.6C1952B6@compaq.com.doom>...E > > How many lines of code (in what language) is the terminal driver?! > >  > M >     The bulk of the line editing code is in the module ttycharo.mar but notaI > all of it.  I just look it is on the order of 4600 lines of some of the7	 > ugliestr  H I would *not* call it ugly. A job needed to be done at the time, it does it well.  H > macro code you are going to find.  All of this logic happens at DEVICE > IPL in kernel mode.W >   E Having just taken a look at it and noted that you have provided a lot(C of work into it - I can understand your feelings and agree. The QA (= involved in changing a line of that code must be interesting.e  J It is a foundation on top of which many "houses of cards" have been built.  D You are right - the IA64 port puts this request in the "maybe later" department.   H During a port it is one of the last things you (or anyone in their right mind) would want to mess with.   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 12:21:19 +0000 (UTC)89 From: Roar =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thron=E6s?= <roart@nvg.ntnu.no>. Subject: Re: Emacs-2[01] on VMSo- Message-ID: <9sj63v$a3k$1@tyfon.itea.ntnu.no>   @ In comp.os.vms Patrick Spinler <spinler.patrick@mayo.edu> wrote: : Roar Throns wrote:  :> tC :> I have compiled it (eventually), but got problems with the dump.iJ :> (Borrowing makefiles and other stuff from the most recent 19.28 on VMS.# :> I think... it was some time ago)  :> : :> -Roar Throns  H : If you still have your work around - might you be willing to put it on+ : sourceforge (or some other public site ?)d  
 Too messy.  I : I'd be willing to spend a few hours messing with your stuff to see if I ! : can move it a bit futher along.s  K Drop the word "few", and you'd probably also ought to know the file format.     My emacs doings are available at+ ftp.nvg.ntnu.no:/pub/vms/emacs/emacs207.bck  (Warning, big file)-  I (Every source-file is there. Some changes dates back from when I compiledE4 emacs 19.28, some are newer, some are probably bad.)- What I had then was VMS/AXP 7.2-1 and CC 6.2.dF If you want to see how it dumps, do a del/sin=1-nov-2001 *.*;* first.)   -Roarp   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:12:10 -0500 0 From: "Island Computers" <dbturner@islandco.com>? Subject: ES40 Model 2 VMS EIP for $11,595  with 1 Year Warranty-/ Message-ID: <tuqjuujju7k115@news.supernews.com>0  ' On our "Specials" page for November !!!E   We sell Alpha systems & partsa http://www.islandco.come sales@islandco.com Island Computers US Corp.o 2700 Gregory Streeta Savannah GA 31404l Tel: 912 447 6622h Fax: 912 201 0096l   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:04:34 +0100 * From: dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons)  Subject: Re: FORMATTING A FLOPPYP Message-ID: <Ej0w7lFo08Zw-pn2-KNMKymCzURpi@jupiter.dwparsons.dialin.t-online.de>  Y On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:44:30, "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com> wrote:r  K > >2) Do you know if there is a software/freeware that allow you to convert G > >from VMS to DOS.  I want to be able take files from an Alpha machines	 > runningp( > >VMS 7.2 and use it on the NT machine. > ) > ftp://ftp.madgoat.com/madgoat/mgpcx.zipe  > Does this restore the VMS long file name on the NT machine and1 does it work NT to VMS also with long file names?a' From the readmes, it doesn't appear to.   ? If not, does anyone know of any software to do this, preferablym Y2K compatible.e  ? I already use PCDISK but this does not preserve long file namesdA and also is not Y2K compatible, well at least the version we haveo isn't.   Thanks Dave   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:00:04 GMT - From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley),  Subject: Re: FORMATTING A FLOPPY1 Message-ID: <3bed324e.243976479@news.process.com>s  O On Sat, 10 Nov 2001 14:04:34 +0100, dwparsons@t-online.de (Dave Parsons) wrote:r  Z >On Wed, 7 Nov 2001 17:44:30, "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com> wrote: > L >> >2) Do you know if there is a software/freeware that allow you to convertH >> >from VMS to DOS.  I want to be able take files from an Alpha machine
 >> running) >> >VMS 7.2 and use it on the NT machine.y >>  * >> ftp://ftp.madgoat.com/madgoat/mgpcx.zip > ? >Does this restore the VMS long file name on the NT machine and 2 >does it work NT to VMS also with long file names?( >From the readmes, it doesn't appear to. > A No, unfortunately, it doesn't.  I started looking into that once,AD but was sufficiently scared by how it's done that I decided I didn't' really need long file name support. ;-)r  @ >If not, does anyone know of any software to do this, preferably >Y2K compatible. >w= The OpenVMS Freeware V5.0 CD has a port of MTOOLS, which doese? support long file names, but which mostly didn't work back whene> I tried it.  I've been wanting to look into the MTOOLS port to? find out why, but there aren't enough hours in the day, or daysi$ in the week, or something like that.   Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ 9 goathunter@goatley.com     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/u   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:30:49 +0010P' From: <paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au>d; Subject: Re: Hewlett family votes "NO" on HP-Compaq merger!55 Message-ID: <01KAJTN6FGEA00098Q@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>e  F >with 39 alpha servers and stations to support, i rarely have time to E >make things nice and pretty, but i seriously am wondering if you can6F >read and comprehend after stating i shove a reco down your throat ...E >i always give a url for you to research the product and make up yourr@ >own mind ... you must not be reading my posts, that's for sure!E >and as far as posting articles, do you see a url link to informationhD >week on the post above?  a few times i have pasted a short article,F >but many others do the same on this board ... what's with everyone onF >this board?  must be some on this board are going thru change of life >or something!  A For goodness sake, Bob.  No one is decrying your ability or your hO contributions.  Can't you stop being so adamant and meet *us* halfway.  Put in oO a few capitals like "i" should be "I" and it is usual to start a sentence with IK a capital letter.  Something as simple as those two points and more people JL would enjoy your contributions.  I am sure that your posts do have merit, I N just find them a bloody pain to read.  Who the heck was the guy who wrote the 9 stuff about the cat and the cockroach, all in lower case?e  H What you refer to as a board is the newsgroup c.o.v which is affiliated 5 (thanks to Mark Berryman) to a mailing list INFO-vax.'  L I'm in my late fifties and there are several others here of similar age.  I H don't think any "change of life", male or female, affects us discussing  OpenVMS.  K Did you notice how clever I was with the <shift> key?  -- Upper "O", lower aM "pen", upper "VMS" which is my understanding of how the engineers like/(have HO been told) to spell it.  If I can learn to do this clever stuff at my age, why r the hell can't you?P   Regards, Paddy   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:55:15 +0010r' From: <paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au>l; Subject: Re: Hewlett family votes "NO" on HP-Compaq merger!e5 Message-ID: <01KAJUIGCL6Q000922@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>   G To reply to myself without quoting, though I stand by what I have said.a  M I proffer an Internet handshake to Bob and the other guy.  Let's get back to f real OpenVMS stuff.o   Regards, Paddy   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 10:17:14 +0100W, From: "Bart Zorn" <B.Zorn@TrueBit.nospam.nl>; Subject: Re: Hewlett family votes "NO" on HP-Compaq merger!u* Message-ID: <9sirgi$qiq$1@news1.xs4all.nl>  5 "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in messagei7 news:d7791aa1.0111092135.7e7f89c5@posting.google.com...   F > with 39 alpha servers and stations to support, i rarely have time toF > make things nice and pretty, but i seriously am wondering if you canG > read and comprehend after stating i shove a reco down your throat ...e   [ . . .]  L 39 Systems and you don't have time to make things nice and pretty? You can't be running OpenVMS!d  F The site where I am currently working we are managing over 900 OpenVMSL systems with 3 or 4 people. And we make time to look things nice and pretty!  	 Bart Zorn    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 04:23:16 -0500-- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>1; Subject: Re: Hewlett family votes "NO" on HP-Compaq merger!/, Message-ID: <3BECF204.A5DCB4A1@videotron.ca>  & paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au wrote:L > Did you notice how clever I was with the <shift> key?  -- Upper "O", lowerN > "pen", upper "VMS" which is my understanding of how the engineers like/(have > been told) to spell it.   N actually, it is spelled <font-size=0>open</font>VMS. It comes out the same way5 as "VMS". This made the change upwards compatible :-)r   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 04:23:55 -0500a- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>u; Subject: Re: Hewlett family votes "NO" on HP-Compaq merger!n, Message-ID: <3BECF22B.FD85376E@videotron.ca>  & paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au wrote:N > I proffer an Internet handshake to Bob and the other guy.  Let's get back to > real OpenVMS stuff.-  . Then stop pronouncing that silly "open" thing.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:38:07 GMTe" From: Art Rice <arice@myhouse.org>; Subject: Re: Hewlett family votes "NO" on HP-Compaq merger!i: Message-ID: <jueH7.1037$IQ1.226494@paloalto-snr1.gtei.net>   Bart Zorn wrote:  7 > "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in messaget9 > news:d7791aa1.0111092135.7e7f89c5@posting.google.com..._ > G >> with 39 alpha servers and stations to support, i rarely have time to G >> make things nice and pretty, but i seriously am wondering if you can H >> read and comprehend after stating i shove a reco down your throat ... > 
 > [ . . .] > H > 39 Systems and you don't have time to make things nice and pretty? You > can't be running OpenVMS!t > H > The site where I am currently working we are managing over 900 OpenVMSF > systems with 3 or 4 people. And we make time to look things nice and	 > pretty!1 >  > Bart Zorn  >  >  > H Does that mean that you haven't decided if the 4th is human or not?  :>)   -- g Art Rice Tandem Admin Special Data Processing Corp ----------------------------* All opinions are my own and do not reflect* the views of the above mentioned employer.   ------------------------------   Date: 10 Nov 2001 09:23:49 GMT) From: leslie@clio.rice.edu (Jerry Leslie)eK Subject: HP co-founder's son hires firm to gather opposition to Compaq deal.' Message-ID: <9sirn5$2ct$1@joe.rice.edu>y Keywords: hwp,cpq,proxy,fighta  9    http://www.chron.com/cs/CDA/story.hts/business/1127072lE    HP co-founder's son hires firm to gather opposition to Compaq dealc     'Bloomberg Business News  H    PALO ALTO, Calif. -- Hewlett-Packard Co. director Walter Hewlett, sonE    of a company co-founder, has hired a proxy-solicitation firm as he D    opposes the second-biggest computer maker's planned $20.5 billion2    purchase of Houston-based Compaq Computer Corp.  I    Hewlett family members and the William R. Hewlett Revocable Trust saidFE    earlier this week they will vote their 5 percent stake against theu    deal.  F    Friday, Walter Hewlett's spokeswoman Joele Frank said Hewlett hired&    proxy solicitor MacKenzie Partners.  D    A move like this typically signals the start of a proxy battle toE    control the direction of a company, and investors said it's likelyiC    that Walter Hewlett -- who previously said he hadn't decided howeG    strongly to fight the acquisition -- is about to go on the offensive 1    to try to lure other shareholders to his side.i  D    Walter Hewlett hasn't decided whether to start asking for proxiesD    against the purchase, although he wanted to keep the option open,    Frank said.  H    New York-based MacKenzie earlier this year helped Computer AssociatesH    International fend off a bid by Dallas billionaire Sam Wyly to gain aE    voice on the software maker's board and push for internal reforms.-  F    Walter Hewlett, his sisters, Eleanor Hewlett Gimon and Mary HewlettD    Jaffe, the William R. Hewlett Revocable Trust and the William andD    Flora Hewlett Foundation own more than 100 million shares of PaloB    Alto-based Hewlett-Packard. Family members have complained that=    acquiring Compaq would boost the company's position in the1@    personal-computer market, a business where profit margins areH    shrinking and annual sales are forecast to fall for the first time in    more than 15 years.  C    David W. Packard, a former board member whose Packard Humanities-I    Institute owns more than 25 million shares of the company, has said he8A    supports Walter Hewlett's view and will vote against the deal.D  D    An HP spokeswoman said Hewlett-Packard has rescheduled a DecemberE    meeting with financial analysts for early next year so it can givej*    more details of its plan to buy Compaq.  C    Also Friday, Compaq board member Thomas Perkins said the plannedaI    purchase is opposed by Hewlett and Packard family members because theyn    don't understand the deal.>  B    "I don't think they know the company or the industry," Perkins,I    founder of venture-capital firm Kleiner Perkins Caufield & Byers, saidL    in an interview..  H    "Neither one has exposure to the inner beauty of Compaq. To reject itD    before you know what it's all about -- I don't like it, and I was    surprised by that."'   ' There is any "inner beauty of Compaq" ?e  4 --Jerry Leslie     (my opinions are strictly my own)   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 15:15:20 GMT./ From: "Tom Simpson" <simpsont@xxx.mediaone.net>  Subject: ppp to DECserver 700.G Message-ID: <cwbH7.10465$9i2.1173701@typhoon.jacksonville.mediaone.net>o  7 Can someone please provide the proper port settings foro$ a PPP connection to a DECserver 700?  4 The settings I have seem to work, but I get a lot of6 unexpected line drops.  Here are the current settings:  5 Port  7:                               Server: IS7001   F Character Size:            8           Input Speed:              19200F Flow Control:            CTS           Output Speed:             19200F Parity:                 None           Modem Control:          Enabled Stop Bits:           Dynamic  F Access:                Local           Local Switch:              NoneF Backwards Switch:       None           Name:                    PORT_7F Break:                 Local           Session Limit:                1F Forwards Switch:        None           Type:                      SoftF Default Protocol:        LAT           Default Menu:              NoneF Autolink Timer One:10 Two:10           Dialer Script:             None   Preferred Service: Noneo Authorized Groups:   0   Enabled Characteristics:? Autobaud,  Autoprompt,  Dialup,  DSRlogout,  Inactivity Logout,iB Input Flow Control,  Longbreak Logout,  Output Flow Control,  PPP, Verification  ! Here is the server firmware info:GE Network Access SW V2.3A for DS700-08 BL47-60  ROM V6.3-0  Uptime:   3b 00:48:13   Regards, Tome   ------------------------------   Date: 10 Nov 2001 16:26:56 GMT3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann)y! Subject: Re: ppp to DECserver 700 0 Message-ID: <9sjkgg$p3j$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  y In article <cwbH7.10465$9i2.1173701@typhoon.jacksonville.mediaone.net>, "Tom Simpson" <simpsont@xxx.mediaone.net> writes: 8 >Can someone please provide the proper port settings for% >a PPP connection to a DECserver 700?  >w5 >The settings I have seem to work, but I get a lot ofu7 >unexpected line drops.  Here are the current settings:  >i6 >Port  7:                               Server: IS7001 >tG >Character Size:            8           Input Speed:              19200 G >Flow Control:            CTS           Output Speed:             19200EG >Parity:                 None           Modem Control:          Enabled- >Stop Bits:           Dynamic4 >oG >Access:                Local           Local Switch:              NonetG >Backwards Switch:       None           Name:                    PORT_7nG >Break:                 Local           Session Limit:                1hG >Forwards Switch:        None           Type:                      Soft G >Default Protocol:        LAT           Default Menu:              None G >Autolink Timer One:10 Two:10           Dialer Script:             Nonet >, >Preferred Service: None >Authorized Groups:   0  >d >Enabled Characteristics:s@ >Autobaud,  Autoprompt,  Dialup,  DSRlogout,  Inactivity Logout,C >Input Flow Control,  Longbreak Logout,  Output Flow Control,  PPP,a
 >Verificationu >e" >Here is the server firmware info:F >Network Access SW V2.3A for DS700-08 BL47-60  ROM V6.3-0  Uptime:   3	 >00:48:13   5 Port  3: MODEM3                        Server: SERV16r  F Character Size:            8           Input Speed:             115200F Flow Control:            CTS           Output Speed:            115200F Parity:                 None           Modem Control:          Enabled7 Stop Bits:                 1                           o  F Access:              Dynamic           Local Switch:              NoneF Backwards Switch:       None           Name:                  SERV16_3F Break:              Disabled           Session Limit:                1F Forwards Switch:        None           Type:                      AnsiF Default Protocol:   Autolink           Default Menu:        MPIIB-MENUF Autolink Timer One:10 Two:10           Dialer Script:             None   Dedicated Service: AUTOLINKr Authorized Groups:   0 (Current)  Groups:   0   Enabled Characteristics:H Autoconnect,  Autolink Authentication,  Autoprompt,  Dialup,  DSRlogout,6 Inactivity Logout,  Input Flow Control,  Limited View,$ Output Flow Control,  PPP,  Security    I Please note that the above setting will work for either a PPP or a normalr? terminal login. In addition you need the proper modem settings:r     ati4$   E1    L1    M1    Q0    V1    X3    $B0   $D0   $T0    %A0   %E1  $  &C1   &D2   &G0   &S1   &T4   &Y0    *E0   *Q0    -H0   -M0    \C1   \D1   \J0   \T60  \V8    :D0      2 I am able to provide more information if required.   Regards,    Christoph Gartmann   H -- --------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |H +--------- http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/english/menue.html ---------+   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 17:06:42 GMTa$ From: "Ed Wilts" <ewilts@ewilts.org> Subject: Purveyor and VMS 7.3s: Message-ID: <C8dH7.2677$T6.114932@typhoon.mn.mediaone.net>  H Since Idon't have an extra Purveyor license to use to test it on my testI 7.3 systems, I'll have to take the word of others who've gone that route.e+  So...does Purveyor have any issues on 7.3?e   Thanks,h 	.../Edy --   Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA mailto:ewilts@ewilts.org   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 06:56:08 GMTh- From: "Carl M Fulton" <fultoncm@starband.net>. Subject: SAMBA on VAXr< Message-ID: <yc4H7.1125$9o3.405028969@twister2.starband.net>  E I am trying to install Samba on a VAX 4500 VMS 6.2 with Multinet 4.2.  I keep getting the following7 %RMS-W-RTB, 512 byte record too large for user's buffere6 whenever I try to edit a large file or run a com file.? I am a novice and don't know what I need to change to fix this.  Help anyone?6 Also a decent install page on the web would help lots! Could anyone point me there? TIA0 Carl   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 17:41:18 GMTN- From: "Carl M Fulton" <fultoncm@starband.net>s Subject: samba on VAXt< Message-ID: <oFdH7.1434$_u6.449447095@twister2.starband.net>  E I am trying to install Samba on a VAX 4500 VMS 6.2 with Multinet 4.2.i I keep getting the following7 %RMS-W-RTB, 512 byte record too large for user's buffere6 whenever I try to edit a large file or run a com file.? I am a novice and don't know what I need to change to fix this.  Help anyone?6 Also a decent install page on the web would help lots! Could anyone point me there? TIAo Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:35:32 +0100t From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>, Subject: Re: Transparent RMS access to TCPIP& Message-ID: <3BED6564.BF6A89B@home.nl>   Alan Greig wrote:a  E > On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 09:33:36 +0100, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote:e >oZ > >Yes, that would be very nice indeed. But there are a few problems. This is not simply aC > >file transfer, this would require a kind of RMS on both sides !.M > >,Y > >Why hasn't somebody thought of that yet ? Well they have, it is called OSI, also known V > >to us as Decnet-Plus. You can even run it over IP !! And provided both sides of theX > >connection use OSI, you can access files on both sides and all OS differences will be( > >translated to each other (FTAM etc.). > >s[ > >The problem is that is is difficult to build, so everybody likes stoneage protocols like- > >FTP.  > > Y > >In case you haven't noticed, the computer industry is re-inventing the wheel time overw > >again ........N >oF > Never mind full OSI. Maybe Compaq should just release DECNET over IPB > for Windows etc and promote it as *the* network file/application	 > system.  >k# > Somehow I can't see it happening!u  ] No, of course not. After all Netbios over IP is already there, and is is effectively the same.Y for Windows as is Decnet (over IP or Decnet sec.) for VMS ! So it is much more logical tooY make a Netbios over IP setup for VMS if we would like to read and write files to and frome\ Windooz. Micro$oft adepts only know Windooz, and don't like to be bothered with other stuff.R So if we want to connect VMS systems to Billyboxes, we have to do the work to make connections possible ...  ] When I was using Pathworks for the MacIntosh, I was capable of moving entire directories fromyT one Mac to another Mac, all from my VMS workstation and using Decnet. And all in theQ backgroud without knowledge of the people behind the Macs. That was a good Decneta2 implementation for a non Digital / Compaq system !   >p >a > >Regards,o > >a > >Dirke > >J > >JF Mezei wrote: > >b > >> Just a suggestion:o > >>K > >> Currently, one can use transparent DECnet for a program to access data P > >> residing on another decnet node, with that data being a file or a stream ofV > >> data supplied by some server program. To the application this is all transparent. > >>R > >> so, a program can open a file such as BIKE"clinton cigar"::"0=TWIST" and thenY > >> read records as they are being fed by the TWIST.COM residing in Clinton's directory.t > >>Q > >> It would be *really neat* if RMS were modified to support sumilar operationsp > >> with TCPIP connections. > >> > >> for instance:O > >> TCPIP::server.whitehouse.gov:23  would establish a tcpip connection to the ? > >> named host and port number and one could read/write to it.  > >>R > >> The nice advantage of using RMS is that RMS would have the smarts to assembleO > >> records on your behalf (eg: take raw packets and assemble until a new line" > >> character is received). > >>R > >> Right now, everyone needs to re-invent the wheel, writing his own routines toO > >> buffer incoming packets and feed newline terminated records to the callingt? > >> application. And that sounds like the perfect job for RMS.d > >>@ > >> Another feature that would be nice would be support for FTP > >> eg:P > >> FTP"clinton cigar"::ftp.whitehouse.gov/oval_office/documents/missing_w.keysO > >> would automatically open an FTP session that would either get (if open forCH > >> read) the file, or write records to a file there if open for write. > >>O > >> Heck, why not also support HTTP requests and feed the response data to ther- > >> application as if it were a local file ?t >b > -- > Alan   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Nov 2001 00:02:55 -0800) From: P.Young@unsw.EDU.AU (Patrick Young) L Subject: Re: VMS 7.1 Alpha installation on PWS 433a (with correct SCSI card)= Message-ID: <55f85d77.0111100002.42635fff@posting.google.com>e  s "Brian Walton" <bkwalton@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:<20011109.152918.1597322404.957@alpha2.brimus.org>...r > Hi - > L > Does anyone know why on a Personal WorkStation 433a when trying to installH > VMS 7.1 (DQA0) I boot the CD and it loads the bootstrap but then fails  D Version 7.1 is too old for this system. The a series was/is designedF for Window NT however you may get it to work with one of the later 7.1 variants or 7.2.  H > I do not have any cache on this system, is that a requirement for VMS?  F Cache is a strange thing on Personal WorkStations - I had a 600au withI cache and OpenVMS 7.2 that would crash randomly running Fortran programs.MI Without the cache it would work fine. Tried swapping in a different cache-G and a different 600au - same problem. Upgrading to 7.2-1 fixed it - the.G user was keen on the cache idea as he saw a 22% increase in performancea with his said Fortran programs..   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 09:36:18 -0500e0 From: "Island Computers" <dbturner@islandco.com>L Subject: Re: VMS 7.1 Alpha installation on PWS 433a (with correct SCSI card)/ Message-ID: <tuqeavcpvpvn13@news.supernews.com>    Briana  I You need a SCSI CD-ROM - Toshiba DEC Branded) with Parity and Termination:A enabled (unless your Qlogic is terminated with a terminator block7    We sell them at www.islandco.com     RegardsZ     -- David Turner   We sell Alpha systems & partso http://www.islandco.com7 sales@islandco.com Island Computers US Corp._ 2700 Gregory Streeta Savannah GA 31404n Tel: 912 447 6622e Fax: 912 201 0096>6 Brian Walton <bkwalton@bellsouth.net> wrote in message8 news:20011109.152918.1597322404.957@alpha2.brimus.org... > Hi - >oL > Does anyone know why on a Personal WorkStation 433a when trying to installH > VMS 7.1 (DQA0) I boot the CD and it loads the bootstrap but then failsJ > and states can't find "SYS$CPU_ROUTINES_1E05.EXE" and has a Halt Code 5.I > The system is running Linux right now on one disk and I want to have an1H > install of OpenVMS 7.1 or 7.2 on another but can't get VMS to boot forJ > the install. I have installed on a MicroVAX 3100 and other 433au's (cameJ > with the SCSI card). The only thing I can tell that is different is thatJ > I do not have any cache on this system, is that a requirement for VMS? IJ > have looked through the docs on the web but can't find any references to
 > my problem.e > 0 > Thanks in advance for any help in this matter. >o > Brian Walton >a   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:54:18 +0100a From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>L Subject: Re: VMS 7.1 Alpha installation on PWS 433a (with correct SCSI card)' Message-ID: <3BED69C9.DD3EABE0@home.nl>B  K There were two series of the PWS. The IDE controller of the first series islJ not supported in VMS, so you can not use the IDE CD-Rom in such a PWS. YouL need a SCSI CD-Rom, and indeed the Toshiba is the one Digital/Compaq use for
 this purpose.u   Brian Walton wrote:t   > Hi - > L > Does anyone know why on a Personal WorkStation 433a when trying to installH > VMS 7.1 (DQA0) I boot the CD and it loads the bootstrap but then failsJ > and states can't find "SYS$CPU_ROUTINES_1E05.EXE" and has a Halt Code 5.I > The system is running Linux right now on one disk and I want to have aniH > install of OpenVMS 7.1 or 7.2 on another but can't get VMS to boot forJ > the install. I have installed on a MicroVAX 3100 and other 433au's (cameJ > with the SCSI card). The only thing I can tell that is different is thatJ > I do not have any cache on this system, is that a requirement for VMS? IJ > have looked through the docs on the web but can't find any references to
 > my problem.p >h0 > Thanks in advance for any help in this matter. >F > Brian Walton   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 11:04:06 -0700I% From: Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com>iL Subject: Re: VMS 7.1 Alpha installation on PWS 433a (with correct SCSI card)B Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20011110110340.0385ebf0@raptor.psccos.com>  K How do you tell the difference in the series, so you know what to look for?a  ( At 10:54 AM 11/10/2001, Dirk Munk wrote:L >There were two series of the PWS. The IDE controller of the first series isK >not supported in VMS, so you can not use the IDE CD-Rom in such a PWS. YounM >need a SCSI CD-Rom, and indeed the Toshiba is the one Digital/Compaq use fori >this purpose. >g >Brian Walton wrote: >e > > Hi - > >rN > > Does anyone know why on a Personal WorkStation 433a when trying to installJ > > VMS 7.1 (DQA0) I boot the CD and it loads the bootstrap but then failsL > > and states can't find "SYS$CPU_ROUTINES_1E05.EXE" and has a Halt Code 5.K > > The system is running Linux right now on one disk and I want to have ancJ > > install of OpenVMS 7.1 or 7.2 on another but can't get VMS to boot forL > > the install. I have installed on a MicroVAX 3100 and other 433au's (cameL > > with the SCSI card). The only thing I can tell that is different is thatL > > I do not have any cache on this system, is that a requirement for VMS? IL > > have looked through the docs on the web but can't find any references to > > my problem.r > >i2 > > Thanks in advance for any help in this matter. > >n > > Brian Walton   ------I +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ I | Dan O'Reilly                  |                                       |tI | Principal Engineer            |  "Why should I care about posterity?  |oI | Process Software              |   What's posterity ever done for me?" |,I | http://www.process.com        |                    -- Groucho Marx    | I +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+o   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:44:26 +0100t From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>8 Subject: Re: VMS upgrade and SCSI disk firmware question' Message-ID: <3BED6779.253B306D@home.nl>.  P You're right, I found them too ! Nice to know that Compaq is so kind for us :-))O But when I asked about firmware for later drives (18 GB etc.), they gave me the , answer as quoted in my previous message ....   Regards,   Dirk   Roy Omond wrote:   > Dirk Munk wrote: >MH > > Don't know what the latest firmware number is, but AFAIK only CompaqQ > > technicians can get firmware for SCSI disks. The firmware is not downloadable 4 > > to my knowledge, nor is a firmware load utility. > H > The firmware load utility is to be found in Sys$Etc:RZtools_Alpha.Exe.D > The 442 firmware update for the RZ26L is also in Sys$Etc (at least  > in the system I'm looking at). >t% > Barbie: dire/dat/wid=fil=30 sys$etcr >e+ > Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSHLP.UNSUPPORTED]  >oH > MKSET.EXE;1                          5/8       28-MAY-1999 23:43:39.42H > MKSET.TXT;1                         11/12      22-NOV-1996 17:02:10.00H > RF35_T392F_DEC_ALPHA.EXE;1         601/604      9-AUG-1993 11:29:07.00H > RF36_V427P_DEC_ALPHA.EXE;1         604/604     16-MAR-1994 13:06:19.00H > RF73_T392F_DEC_ALPHA.EXE;1         601/604      9-AUG-1993 11:45:37.00H > RF74_V427P_DEC_ALPHA.EXE;1         604/604     16-MAR-1994 13:08:20.00H > RF_VERS.EXE;1                       31/32      28-MAY-1999 23:31:42.46H > RZ26L_442D_DEC.FUP;1               512/512     28-MAY-1999 18:20:27.30H > RZ28P4_442C_DEC.FUP;1              512/512     28-MAY-1999 18:20:22.38H > RZ28_442D_DEC2104.FUP;1            512/512     28-MAY-1999 18:20:32.68H > RZTOOLS_ALPHA.EXE;1                153/156     28-MAY-1999 18:20:18.12H > SCSI_INFO.EXE;1                     35/36      28-MAY-1999 23:43:30.10H > SCSI_MODE.EXE;1                     99/100     28-MAY-1999 23:43:35.49 >e& > Total of 13 files, 4280/4296 blocks. >  > Roy Omond  > Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.626 ************************