1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 07 Oct 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 558       Contents:% Re: Compaq announces DET breakthrough % Re: Compaq announces DET breakthrough  CSWS Post Method Question? DECnet phase IV receive buffers ! Re: Full printer support at last? , Itanium and memory page needing "no execute" Re: WP 5.1+ Docs0 Re: [VMS V7.3 Alpha] my first crash since months0 Re: [VMS V7.3 Alpha] my first crash since months  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 07 Oct 2001 23:28:12 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>. Subject: Re: Compaq announces DET breakthrough- Message-ID: <87n133a2r7.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   , "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net> writes:  B > Very well done indeed: for at least a while (up until 'Phase 2',F > where the explicit exposition made it harder to discount the dynamicC > endian-flip at the OS level as reporting confusion about a simple D > ability to run a given process in other-endian mode) I found it at > least sort-of believable.   G Well, it is passing of what CDC did yonks ago as NEW. So that is pretty  industry standard ;)   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 19:36:18 +0200 & From: John McLean <mcleanj@dplanet.ch>. Subject: Re: Compaq announces DET breakthrough* Message-ID: <3BC09292.B8AB8069@dplanet.ch>   Very clever.  Very nice !   2 I especially liked the lines in the disclaimer ...  H "The potential risks and uncertainties that will cause actual results toC differ significantly include: worsening global economic conditions, D broken commitments and uncertainty, disruptions related to the phoneH ringing, liquidation of Compaq's few profitable products, liquidation ofG the whole company and the expected failure in the expansion of Compaq's  solutions business model."     John McLean        JF Mezei wrote:  > P > HOUSTON, Oct. 6 /PRSpinwire/ -- Compaq Computer Corporation (NYSE: CPQ - news)O > will announce tomorrow a significant advance in computer and operating system 4 > technology called DET - Dynamic Endian Technology. > I > This technology, developped in conjunction with Redmond based Microsoft P > (NASDAQ: MSFT) and Intel (NASDAQ: INTC), will greatly improve the openness andM > compatibility of Microsoft's Windows enterprise operating system with other N > operating systems in Compaq's product protfolio. This increased synergy willS > give Compaq an unprecedented industry leadership in the enterprise server market.  > M > This technology will first be implemented on Compaq's AlphaServer operating N > systems and later ported to Intel's Itanium as part of Compaq's architectureK > simplification initiative. It will also be key to help the integration of V > Compaq's product lines with Hewlett Packard's when the proposed merger is finalised. > H > Dynamic Endian Technology will eventually allow an operating system toP > dynamically change its endianness without requiring a reboot or any changes in9 > software. The goals will be achieved in 3 major phases.  > M > Phase 1- Implementation in the GS series Alphaservers. Different partitions P > will be able to boot with the endianness of their choice while maintaining the; > ability to share some memory blocks between OS instances.  > O > Phase 2-Dynamically selectable endianness at the OS instance level.  With the J > introduction of the EV7 chip, an instance of the operating system on anyK > single or multi CPU Alpha server, including the GS series will be able to N > dynamically change its endianness without a reboot. Systems services will beO > added to allow a sufficiently priviledged process to change the endianness of  > the operating system.  > M > 3-Dynamically selectable endianness at the process level. Each process will N > have the ability to dynamically change its endianness. Systems services willP > be provided to allow a process to change the endianness of another process butM > not to inquire about its current status. This will provide not only best of O > breed in versatility, but also provide incredible level of security since one P > process' data will appear as jibberish to another process trying to access it. > M > This breakthough will bring incredible value to not only security conscious F > customers such as the military but also to customers such as lotteryK > corporations for whom the ability of a process to randomly change another N > process' endianness will provide truly unpredictable results. As part of itsJ > managed facilities services, Compaq may also allow third parties such asH > Microsoft to remotely manage the endianness of individual processes onP > non-Windows operating systems via the internet, thus relieving system managers! > from many time consuming tasks.  > J > These and other upcoming initiatives will make Compaq's Proliant serversN > running Microsoft's Windows operating system look far more robust and secureH > than they really are, and inject some new energy into the older legacyI > operatings systems to bring them to the same levels of realiability and @ > availability  as Microsoft's leading enterprise-ready Windows. >  > About Compaq > J >   Founded in 1982, Compaq Computer Corporation ("Compaq") was a bleedingR >   global wannabe provider of enterprise technology and solutions. Information onN >   Compaq and its products and services is available at http://www.compaq.com > H > Notes: Compaq and the Compaq logo are trademarks of Compaq InformationP > Technologies Group, L.P. Product names mentioned herein may be trademarks and/L > or registered trademarks of their respective companies. This press releaseF > contains too many forward-looking statements based on current overlyB > optimistic expectations that involve a great number of risks andM > uncertainties. The potential risks and uncertainties that will cause actual P > results to differ significantly include: worsening global economic conditions,O > broken commitments and uncertainty, disruptions related to the phone ringing, K > liquidation of Compaq's few profitable products, liquidation of the whole I > company and the expected failure in the expansion of Compaq's solutions M > business model. Further information on these factors and other factors that P > could affect Compaq's financial results is included in Compaq's Securities andO > Exchange Commission (SEC) filings, including the latest Annual Report on Form - > 10-K and the Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 08:35:03 -0400   From: Kuff@Tessco.Com (Hal Kuff)# Subject: CSWS Post Method Question? O Message-ID: <FECD511960B2300B.9CED137FB9BC6BB9.3DE3562F5C50FFAF@lp.airnews.net>   @    I see in the install guide that one can configure CSWS to useI multi-seqment logical names for large Post Method strings... what I can't B find are the docs that tell you what the logical names are and the formats?   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 14:58:55 GMT ' From: Steve Thompson <smt@twcny.rr.com> ( Subject: DECnet phase IV receive buffersI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0110071057470.9833-100000@ibmbox.vgersoft.com>   " VMS 7.2-1, DECnet phase IV, alpha.  C Can someone please clarify for me the upper bound for the number of I receive buffers that can be specified for a given line? The documentation : says 32 but NCP appears to accept a value up to 1024. TIA,   steve    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 12:11:50 -0400 - From: Jack Patteeuw <jjpatteeuw@peoplepc.com> * Subject: Re: Full printer support at last?, Message-ID: <3BC07EC6.A7F8105B@peoplepc.com>   Paul Anderson wrote: > I > The HP LaserJet 9000 is planned to be supported in DCPS V2.1, scheduled  > for Q1 2002.  R Preliminary test (simplex, duplex, number up, portrait and landscape) seem to workT fine.  The test unit we have doesn't have all the optional input and output trays so we really can't test them.  U For those interested, we plan on doing some speed testing next week from both VMS and T Tru64 to see how close the HP 9000 comes to its claimed speed, especially when doing 4 up, duplex !!!   --    
 Jack Patteeuw    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 14:09:27 GMT  From: intesar@xmy-deja.com5 Subject: Itanium and memory page needing "no execute" 2 Message-ID: <3bc061c5.10562778@news.sunflower.com>  > Just saw the CETS2001 VMS on Itanium presentation via the web.  : How're they going to solve the VMS need to mark some pages as "no execute"?   Thanks!    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 12:09:08 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)  Subject: Re: WP 5.1+ Docs 0 Message-ID: <00A0328F.CDBA59FE@SendSpamHere.ORG>  o In article <gvFv7.118940$hh.10408134@bin1.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>, "Andy Stoffel" <acs@fcgnetworks.net> writes:  > / >"Andy Burns" <andy@burns.net> wrote in message 3 >news:b31urt8r5rvb34nnri2dg6jlbslql7nena@4ax.com... C >> On Sat, 06 Oct 2001 00:25:06 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian " >> Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote: >>F >> >Why doesn't she just contact the folks responsible for WordPerfect >forC >> >OpenVMS and ask them for the documentation she'd like or needs?  >>8 >> wasn't the last owner ASPIRE or something like that ? >  >Try Legacy Technologies:  >  >    http://www.legacytech.net/    or...          http://www.legacy-2000.com/  < >Somehow they started out at Spire which spun off stuff like >Wordperfect> >to another company which THEN spun off the software it had toE >Legacy Tech which at this point still exists...... no idea about who ? >did what to whom other than watching the name changes over the  >last 7 years.....  G They're good folks at Legacy and they can probably tell you the history 7 of the product ownership through the past decade or so.  --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              J   "And of course, I'm a genius, so people are naturally drawn to my fiery I   intellect.  Their admiration overwhelms their envy!" -- Calvin & Hobbes    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 09:54:49 +0200 From: zessin@decus.de 9 Subject: Re: [VMS V7.3 Alpha] my first crash since months * Message-ID: <00A0329E.9115F7F4.3@decus.de>   Jonathan Boswell wrote:    >Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote: K >> No, I wasn't aware that I should turn off XFC. I started the VMS upgrade H >> after XFC ECO came out and I never ran VMS V7.3 without it. I did see > K >Ha!  Before applying this patch, I could crash individual Alphas simply by O >doing a BACKUP.  After applying this patch, my whole cluster would erroneously N >think it lost quorum and permanently hang at the most inopportune times, suchO >as rebooting a single voting member.  Most annoying.  I have been forced again  >to disable the XFC.   Welcome to the club!  L I have just aborted a project to install a SCSI cluster (2x DS20E, each withJ 2x DE600 NIC, 2x KZPBA-CB + 2 BA356 boxes, graphic card and a KZPBA-CA for a tape - nothing special...).    There are a number of problems:    - OpenVMS volume shadowing  E   - a long time ago one of the SHADOW ECOs broke the functionality to       put out meaningful messages:     $ 	     DSA2:   	     DSA1:        $   -     At least this properly goes though OPCOM: <     %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   1-OCT-2001 10:37:27.51  %%%%%%%%%%%5     Mount verification has completed for device DSA2: <     %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   1-OCT-2001 10:37:27.51  %%%%%%%%%%%5     Mount verification has completed for device DSA1:   <     Disappointing to see that this problem is still present.  J   - after a <CONTROL-P> and BOOT at the console, the shadow merge does notF     work correctly. The disk activity lights blink from time to time -H     they should show constant activity. If I dismount a member and startJ     a shadow copy it works normal, but of course that is not an acceptableJ     workaround! (SHADOW_MAX_COPY is set to a sufficient value, before any-
     one asks)    - network problemsO   %PEA0, Excessive packet losses on LAN Path from EIB to EIB on REMOTE NODE xyz   I   That is just a cross-over cable between the 2 DS20E! It can happen with J   the setting of 'twisted-pait' and 'FastFD'. I have also seen this on theK   'EIA' adapter. One error message came just after I had initiated a shadow <   copy. The LAN ECO (together with other ones) is installed.  9   Would be nice to be able to use $ANALYZE/ERROR_LOG, no? F   I had tried to install WEBES from the tools CD, but that trashed theB   system completely and I did a new VMS installation from scratch.   - hangs H   I have disabled the XFC (and I did not enable the VIOC). If I boot theJ   second member it can still happen that the first on freezes completely -2   even a <CONTROL-P> on the console does not work.G   A 'SHOW CLUSTER/FULL' on the other system shows a status of 'BRK_NON'    for the frozen system.  F Lets see: shadowing does not work properly, there are network problemsE  and I have to find out that the service 'tools' are even more awfull +  than people have told since a long time...   J I have taken (forced) crash dumps from both members, but I don't have time? to report that next week - I'm on a (non-VMS related) training.   < Keith Parris, you are right: "don't run V7.3 in production". Too bad I tried it anyway...   --  
 Uwe Zessin   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Oct 2001 10:45:50 -0700 1 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) 9 Subject: Re: [VMS V7.3 Alpha] my first crash since months = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0110070945.4b1aefa7@posting.google.com>   G zessin@decus.de wrote in message news:<00A0329E.9115F7F4.3@decus.de>... > > Keith Parris, you are right: "don't run V7.3 in production".  B I was addressing that counsel to a site with unusual and extremelyB high availability requirements.  My advice is that sites like thatE should avoid any new version until at least 6-9 months after release, D and are better off moving from one "safe landing zone" release (e.g.> 7.1-2, 7.2-1[H1], 7.3-1) to another and skipping the major new= releases in between.  (For these sites, caution in installing F brand-new versions of software would apply to anything, not just VMS.)  ? But I also advise those same sites that they should have a test F cluster which is configured as closely as possible to their production@ cluster, and that they need to run their application code on newF releases of VMS in that test cluster to detect any problems and report@ those to Compaq so they can get fixed.  Also, other clusters andD systems that are less-critical in availability requirements, such asF software development, test, QA, and less-demanding production clustersD should also be used to test new VMS versions and detect problems for resolution.   E If no one ran 7.3 in production anywhere, it would never be ready for C use by very-high-availability sites, and neither would 7.3-1, since E there wouldn't be a set of patch kits from the 7.3 experience to roll  up into it.   D I've been very impressed by the ability of VMS Engineering to listenB to customer needs, handle development of very complex solutions toD provide significant new functionality, and ship the result in such aE timely fashion and at such a high level of quality as we've seen over F the past few years, all the while having to do more and more ambitious> work with fewer and fewer people over time.  Their strategy ofF intensive pre-release testing, quick reaction to problems found in theD field, releasing patch kits to fix a given problem for several priorB versions and making them available for free on the net (instead ofD just fixing them in the next release), condensing patches into x.x-nA roll-up releases and continuing to support a generation or two of ? those behind the main release stream, and even back-porting the B most-critical functionality from the latest release (as we've seenC with 7.3 features going into 7.2-2), seems to be working very well.   D Everyone who has the opportunity and courage to run a newly-released@ version of VMS and report the problems found makes a significant: contribution to the benefit of all the others who use VMS.C -------------------------------------------------------------------uC Keith Parris | parris at encompasserve dot org | VMS consulting on:cC Clusters, Disaster Tolerance, Internals, Performance, Storage & I/Ot   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.558 ************************