1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 08 Oct 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 559       Contents: Re: BACKUP trouble.... Re: BACKUP trouble.... Re: BACKUP trouble....8 Re: Can I restore system disk shadow set without reboot?% Re: Compaq announces DET breakthrough  Re: CSWS Post Method Question? Re: CSWS Post Method Question?) Re: DCPS and IP_RawTCP (Telenet printing) A Re: Microsoft Addresses Security Fears: Chance To Market VMS/CSWS 6 ONLINE IMMIGRATION - TRAVEL VISAS - GREEN CARD LOTTERY OpenSSL and Multinet Users Pathworks Licensing Query  Re: Pathworks on Win2000P Quert wrt NETACP on VMS 5.5-2 (specifically, but probably relates to NETACP/NET$P Re: Quert wrt NETACP on VMS 5.5-2 (specifically, but probably relates to NETACP/6 Query wrt routing caches in DECnet Phase V on OVMS 7.1 Show Intrusion privilege query" Re: Show Intrusion privilege query" Re: Show Intrusion privilege query The only.."Legal-Chain-Letter"# Re: VAX 7000 hw support going away? # Re: VAX 7000 hw support going away? ! Vax Basic converting WORD to LONG % Re: Vax Basic converting WORD to LONG ! Re: Voluntarily giving up the CPU 0 Re: [VMS V7.3 Alpha] my first crash since months0 Re: [VMS V7.3 Alpha] my first crash since months0 Re: [VMS V7.3 Alpha] my first crash since months  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 7 Oct 2001 14:45:45 -0700 - From: afeldman@gfigroup.com (Alan E. Feldman)  Subject: Re: BACKUP trouble.... = Message-ID: <af1e4ce6.0110071345.5eeddf5e@posting.google.com>   l catsoup57@hotmail.com (Chris Hale) wrote in message news:<8155f86.0110061409.530d122a@posting.google.com>... [snip]E > I have a directory structure below SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.CHRIS.HTTPD] 9 > which I want to move onto another node into DKC0:[WWW].  > = > So I set def into SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.CHRIS.HTTPD], and do:  > ) > $ backup/log [...]*.* [-]httpd.sav/sav   > H > then ftp this to the other node, and (after running fix_save.exe) run: >  > $ set def dkc0:[www] > $ backup httpd.sav/sav [...] > E > I have a feeling that the VMS experts amungst you will already have : > realised what happens. Its trying to resore the files to( > [000000.SYSMGR.CHRIS.HTTPD.BASE_CODE]. > @ > I have tried various ways of creating the save set to lose theF > absolute directory path, but to no avail! How do I create a save set> > storing only the directory path info relative to the current > directory?  9 $ BACKUP/LOG HTTPD.SAV/SAVE/SEL=[SYSMGR.CRHIS.HTTPD...] -    DKC0:[WWW...]   F With this command, files in HTTPD will be copied to WWW. The directoryD structure under HTTPD will be copied as the same directory structure
 under WWW.  E If you want files in subdirectories under HTTPD to be copied, but not E any files *in* HTTPD (well, not any non-*.DIR files, of course), then  use the following:  ; $ BACKUP/LOG HTTPD.SAV/SAVE/SEL=[SYSMGR.CRHIS.HTTPD.*...] -    DKC0:[WWW...]   	     -or-    : $ BACKUP/LOG HTTPD.SAV/SAVE/SEL=[SYSMGR.CRHIS.HTTPD...*] -   DKC0:[WWW...]   A For more information, please check out wildcard file specs in the 7 User's Manual and the Backup manual, and BACKUP/SELECT.      Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman  afeldman&gfigroup.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 20:55:00 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>  Subject: Re: BACKUP trouble.... ' Message-ID: <3BC10774.D4C032C4@fsi.net>    Chris Hale wrote:  > 	 > Hi all,  > H > Im trying to do something quite simple... well I thought it was simple	 > anyway!  > E > I have a directory structure below SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.CHRIS.HTTPD] 9 > which I want to move onto another node into DKC0:[WWW].  > = > So I set def into SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.CHRIS.HTTPD], and do:  > ( > $ backup/log [...]*.* [-]httpd.sav/sav > H > then ftp this to the other node, and (after running fix_save.exe) run: >  > $ set def dkc0:[www] > $ backup httpd.sav/sav [...]   Use:   $ backup httpd.sav/sav [*...]    ...instead.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 21:01:49 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>  Subject: Re: BACKUP trouble.... ' Message-ID: <3BC1090C.2C0CADEB@fsi.net>    "David J. Dachtera" wrote: >  > Chris Hale wrote:  > >  > > Hi all,  > > J > > Im trying to do something quite simple... well I thought it was simple > > anyway!  > > G > > I have a directory structure below SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.CHRIS.HTTPD] ; > > which I want to move onto another node into DKC0:[WWW].  > > ? > > So I set def into SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.CHRIS.HTTPD], and do:  > > * > > $ backup/log [...]*.* [-]httpd.sav/sav  ! Sorry - ignore the previous post.    Try:  ' $ backup/log [*...]*.* [-]httpd.sav/sav    ...instead.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 23:08:30 GMT ) From: rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz (Rob Buxton) A Subject: Re: Can I restore system disk shadow set without reboot? 1 Message-ID: <3bc0e006.616204324@news.wcc.govt.nz>   D On Fri, 5 Oct 2001 12:12:03 +0000, Steve.Spires@yellgroup.com wrote:   I don't think you can do that.D Yes, SHADOW_SYS_DISK is dynamic but SHADOW_SYS_UNIT is not and it'll/ need both to create the System Disk Shadow Set.     I believe you'll need to reboot.   Rob.    ! >To:        Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  >cc:M >Contact:   Tel: 3063  -  IS - Infrastructure, 1st Floor, Bridge Street Plaza  > 5 >Can I restore system disk shadow set without reboot?  >  > D >Okay, I know you shouldn't do stuff when you're tired, but I did... > N >I had to apply some patches to one of our nodes, I took one device out of theO >system disk shadow set, applied the patches on the remaining single member set  >and rebooted. > O >Unfortunately I was over-zealous and did the following; set SHADOW_SYS_DISK to N >0, and commented out the shadow set mount command from our startup mount diskB >procedure. SHADOW_SYS_DISK is dymanic, so that can be reset to 1. > O >So, I have the situation where I have the system up, but no system disk shadow 8 >set. I can't get a window to reboot for some time so... > N >Can I restore the system disk shadow set from this position without a reboot? >  >Thanks  >  >Steve S >  >  >[Information] -- PostMaster: E >This transmission is intended solely for the addressee(s) and may be M >confidential. If you are not the named addressee, or if the message has been Q >addressed to you in error, you must not read, disclose, reproduce, distribute or  >use this transmission.  > M >Delivery of this message to any person other than the named addressee is not I >intended in any way to waive confidentiality.  If you have received this G >transmission in error please contact the sender or delete the message.  >  >Thank you.  > P >Yell Limited, Queens Walk, Oxford Road, Reading, Berkshire, RG1 7PT. 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Registered in England and Wales, registered number 1403041.  >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 14:11:10 -0400 ( From: Hamlyn Mootoo <univms@bigfoot.com>. Subject: Re: Compaq announces DET breakthrough+ Message-ID: <3BC09ABE.6E8254A0@bigfoot.com>    JF Mezei wrote: J > These and other upcoming initiatives will make Compaq's Proliant serversN > running Microsoft's Windows operating system look far more robust and secure > than they really are, ......    " That pretty much says it all......     HM   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 21:33:56 -0400 - From: Michael Austin <miaustin@bellsouth.net> ' Subject: Re: CSWS Post Method Question? - Message-ID: <3BC10284.BEE8281F@bellsouth.net>   4 Hal,  What are you using to "accept" the large POST?   Michael Austin http://www.firstdbasource.com    Hal Kuff wrote:   B >    I see in the install guide that one can configure CSWS to useK > multi-seqment logical names for large Post Method strings... what I can't D > find are the docs that tell you what the logical names are and the
 > formats?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 22:24:12 -0400 - From: Michael Austin <miaustin@bellsouth.net> ' Subject: Re: CSWS Post Method Question? - Message-ID: <3BC10E4C.BC223B47@bellsouth.net>    Look at:J http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/apache/csws_install.txt   and search for: APACHE$DCL_ENV   Hal Kuff wrote:   B >    I see in the install guide that one can configure CSWS to useK > multi-seqment logical names for large Post Method strings... what I can't D > find are the docs that tell you what the logical names are and the
 > formats?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 20:03:29 +0100 1 From: Steve Reece <SYSTEM@ipl.demon.co.nospam.uk> 2 Subject: Re: DCPS and IP_RawTCP (Telenet printing)6 Message-ID: <3BC0B511.1EC88EBB@ipl.demon.co.nospam.uk>  H DCPS _requires_ two way communication in order to verify what the statusH of the printer is before it starts (IIRC, the symbiont sends a CONTROL-T= to the printer before it starts passing data to the printer).   H If you're using a console monitor/manager product then you could keep anE eye out on the console for DCPS warnings/errors.  Other than that I'm , sure Paul will be able to give an answer on.   Steve.     Jack Patteeuw wrote: > Q > DCPS supports printing to a TCP/IP port (what I call Telnet printing).  On most S > printers (HP at least) it is port 9100.  This done by setting P2 for the queue in I > question to "IP_RawTCP/node.name:port" in SYS$STARTUP:DCPS$STARTUP.COM.  > R > My question is, is there any type of protocol that is used on this port or is itT > strictly a "one way communication".  If there is a protocol, what is it called andQ > where is it documented.  If there is no protocol, then is there any way for the Q > printer to tell VMS if it is out of paper or needs toner, etc. other that using " > osmosis on the "stalled" status. >  > -- >  > Jack Patteeuw    --  G "A shadow fell over her face; clear, as if the composure were rent like E a veil.  And her lips parted, but only with a short intake of breath. A Then she said, 'Well, then you are right.  Indeed, we are even.'" % 		Louis, "Interview with the Vampire"    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Oct 2001 19:47:02 -0700 2 From: alan.e.feldman@verizon.net (Alan E. Feldman)J Subject: Re: Microsoft Addresses Security Fears: Chance To Market VMS/CSWS= Message-ID: <1ad5d606.0110071847.6ee06c10@posting.google.com>   Z David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu> wrote in message news:<3BBDDBBD.A117E056@caltech.edu>... > "Alan E. Feldman" wrote: >  > > I > > Dear sir, I do *not* believe that comments about rear ends, lips, and 4 > > posterior, like those quoted above, are helpful. > _ > Of course they aren't helpful.  Not because of their tone, but because  nothing any of us say  > or do ] > could help Compaq.   Only Compaq can help Compaq.  And they've already thrown in the towel.   B Well, we may have a new chance with Carly and HP. We don't want to
 piss her off.    > > If someone forwards C > > comments like these to Compaq or HP executives (and someone may H > > already have done so!), then it will only hurt the future of VMS. It/ > > will only "harden their hearts" against us.  > % > That happened many, many years ago.   F Fair enough. But "many, many years ago"? Compaq has not owned VMS thatE long. "Many, many" is certainly a lot more than 3 (or whatever number % of years ago that Compaq bought DEC).    >  > > I mean, imagine if someone; > > made comments like that about you! How would you react?  > V > I'd ask myself, "What did I do to piss off this guy, and those like him , so badly?"  C But would you follow his advice, which came with the rude comments? 4 The advice answers the "What did I do...?" question.  E > > I do, however, share your frustation about the lack of marketing, E > > etc., for VMS, and would like nothing more than for VMS to have a  > > bright future. > = > If VMS has a future it's despite Compaq, not because of it.    True. But you never know.    Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman  alan.e.feldman&verizon.net   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 18:24:22 -0400 From: Lucy <Lucy@VisaPro.com> ? Subject: ONLINE IMMIGRATION - TRAVEL VISAS - GREEN CARD LOTTERY 9 Message-ID: <iss.1eb6.3bc0d613.5404a.1@mx2.east.saic.com>   
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We recently upgradedO to version 4.3 and now decryption is broken. Before setting "stream on" in the  L ftp command would prevent this error. Now I can't get rid of it. Does anyone have suggestions?    bad decrypt G 551644345:error:06065064:digital envelope routines:EVP_DecryptFinal:bad J decrypt:CCSTAFF:[FRALEY.OPENSSL.OPENSSL-0_9_6B.CRYPTO.EVP]EVP_ENC.C;1:277:  M We are running OpenVMS 6.2 on Alphas. Just using OpenSSL on local files works N fine, the error is introduced when downloading files. Trailing garbage appears at the end of the file.    --       Michael Fraley   fraley@usfca.edu   http://www.usfca.edu/~fraley   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 23:50:39 GMT ) From: rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz (Rob Buxton) " Subject: Pathworks Licensing Query1 Message-ID: <3bc0e9b0.618678312@news.wcc.govt.nz>    Hi All,   A We're running Pathworks 6.0D on VAX under VMS 7.2 in Server Based  Licensing mode.   ) We have a 50U ser license PWLMXXXCA07.02.   ' Is this license only valid for VMS 7.2? F Should I get an upgrade to this license as part of the annual support?   TIA,   Rob.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 01:51:28 +01001 From: "Chris Townley" <news@townleyc.demon.co.uk> ! Subject: Re: Pathworks on Win2000 B Message-ID: <1002502336.21579.0.nnrp-14.d4e45fa5@news.demon.co.uk>  > "Brad McCusker" <Brad.McCuskerSP@Mcompaq.com> wrote in message) news:U_Gv7.63$RL6.195@news.cpqcorp.net...  > > > "Chris Townley" <news@townleyc.demon.co.uk> wrote in message> > news:1002240776.11992.0.nnrp-13.d4e45fa5@news.demon.co.uk...B > > "Brad McCusker" <Brad.McCuskerSP@Mcompaq.com> wrote in message0 > > news:rC4v7.1108$YP.26210@news.cpqcorp.net...8 > > > PATHWORKS 32 V7.2 absolutely supports Windows2000. > > > G > > > Lastly, as someone else said, be sure you really even need to useb clientF > > > based licensing.  Unless your clients are connecting to multiple > different_J > > > servers, you should use server based licensing (turn off the licenseA > > > server).  No need for any software at all on the Win2K box.L > >YI > > However without a local license you cannot map a drive. This is majorW > > shortfall. > >A >o	 > Chris -  >eG > Your statement may or may not be correct, depends on how you have setM things > up.i >lG > I can say for certain though that what you said does not _have_ to bea true.  >SJ > The PWLMXXXCA0*.** license can be used as either client based (per seat) orF > server based (per server).  Most of you discussion indicates you are tryingJ > to use that license on that client as a client based license.  Others in theRK > string are trying to tell you to try to use it as a server based license.  > B > If the client in question needs to connect to multiple differentL > PATHWORKS/AdvSer OpenVMS Servers, then, it probably makes sense to use theI > license as a client based license.  If it is only connecting to the one-: > PW/AS server, then by all means, use it as server based. >rH > Cleint based licensing requires that somewhere on your network you areG > running the license server, and it also requires that you have clientoK > license requestor bits running on your client.  Client based licensing isgI > more complicated, and should only be used by those that really need it.R >RL > Server based licensing is simple.  Load the PAK in LMF, be sure to not runG > the license server, and presto, you are done.  The client attempts tokH > connect, we may or may not try to verify a license on the client, but, whenE > the license verifcation fails, we'll assign one of the server basedpK > licenses, and away you go, happily mapping shares with a reliability only  > dreamed about in Redmond ;^) >   H Thanks for the reply, and the explanation. I had not replied to the lastJ batch, as I intended to try a few things out on Monday at work. However weL have two main Pathworks servers, and run the license server to service a fewL hundred clients. We have run licensing like this for many years - going back" to DOS days with ISTR Pathworks 3.  I As I say I will do some experimentation on Monday, as well as follow up a 1 call which is with the Pathworks guru in Holland.e   -- Chrisb   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Oct 2001 11:43:02 -0700i& From: coven@talk21.com (Mark Corcoran)Y Subject: Quert wrt NETACP on VMS 5.5-2 (specifically, but probably relates to NETACP/NET$s= Message-ID: <15845bab.0110071043.5b651900@posting.google.com>I  = I wonder if anyone might have some thoughts on the following:H  J We have a large number of OVMS systems (~240, a combination of 7.1 and 7.2K systems), which until recently, were not time-synched, and as part of their I daily housekeeping job, would copy a number of files off the system, onto 5 a 5.5-2 Vaxcluster, which is running DECnet Phase IV.-  M I'm not entirely sure, but I'm fairly certain that the problem we are having,pH started to occur as a result of the systems being synched with TCPWARE's NTP process.  L It seems that because all of the systems are attempting to copy files at theK same time, the poor Vaxcluster is getting overworked, resulting in the COPYrL commands within these housekeeping command files, reporting "network partner exited" messages.0  I I made some changes (!) to the NETSERVER.COM file on the 5.5-2 system, so I that it wouldn't purge down the NETSERVER.LOG files for the account whichh, all these housekeeping jobs log in by proxy.  H This was in the hope that there might be some DAP status code within theI NETSERVER.LOG files which might indicate the actual problem (the jobs run F at ~02:30, and although I start work at 07:30, the files were well and( truly purged by that time), but alas no.  J I had previously thought that because of the number of systems, I ought toI increase the SYSGEN CHANNELCNT parameter, plus the EXECUTOR MAXIMUM LINKSuH DECnet parameter, but this made no difference (yes, yes, I did AUTOGEN & reboot).  I It then struck me that the problem might be NETACP, and SDA shows that itnJ has a FILLM value of 128, which none of the relevant UAF accounts possess.  H A little digging found the command file which starts NETACP with a file/ channel count of 128.t  I Given that - AFAICT - the DECnet documentation does not make reference toHJ increasing this value, much less the CHANNELCNT parameter, the abiliity toF increase EXECUTOR MAXIMUM LINKS to between 128 (what NETACP is startedJ with) and CHANNELCNT, suggests to me that NETACP might be having a problemI trying to create so many NET and/or MBA devices at the time it is "comingw under attack".  G Does anyone have any useful opinions or suggestions on this (and before3J anyone asks, I didn't think to see how many system/user buffer unavailableG errors were shown in DECnet;  I'm not dialled in to work at the moment,2F but will check this tomorrow (although I'll have to clear the countersD first, to get any valid sense out of it)), especially whether or notI increasing the maximum channels that NETACP has will make any difference, F and if so, whether or not there are any of the other qualifiers on theI RUN command for it, that may also need to be changed (and proportionally,S= by how much - or is it just a stab in the dark guesstimate?)?r  ' Any advice/assistance much appreciated.t  I (Incidentally, the 5.5-2 LAVC is due to be replaced;  we already have the.G ES40 kit, but unfortunately, a lot of tools/utilities need to be portedcI from VAX to Alpha first of all;  this is one of the many tasks I have yet  to complete in my CFT)   Mark   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Oct 2001 16:29:24 -0700S1 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris)wY Subject: Re: Quert wrt NETACP on VMS 5.5-2 (specifically, but probably relates to NETACP/t= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0110071529.67be94a4@posting.google.com>a  k coven@talk21.com (Mark Corcoran) wrote in message news:<15845bab.0110071043.5b651900@posting.google.com>...nO > I'm not entirely sure, but I'm fairly certain that the problem we are having,TJ > started to occur as a result of the systems being synched with TCPWARE's > NTP process. > N > It seems that because all of the systems are attempting to copy files at theM > same time, the poor Vaxcluster is getting overworked, resulting in the COPYrN > commands within these housekeeping command files, reporting "network partner > exited" messages.a  F If Accounting is enabled, you might be able to get some clues from theF process termination records of the processes involved, even if the log files are gone.   B You might consider adding a small random amount of "dither" to theF times the batch jobs are scheduled to run, chosen at the time they areE submitted.  Or, the batch job, once started, could then wait a randome3 amount of time before starting the COPY operations.r  E While you troubleshoot things, you might want to consider raising the E DECnet Incoming Timer on the target machine and Outgoing Timer on the1B source machine to give the FAL server processes on the busy system= more time to get going before DECnet times the operation out.EC -------------------------------------------------------------------iC Keith Parris | parris at encompasserve dot org | VMS consulting on: C Clusters, Disaster Tolerance, Internals, Performance, Storage & I/O    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Oct 2001 12:05:43 -0700 & From: coven@talk21.com (Mark Corcoran)? Subject: Query wrt routing caches in DECnet Phase V on OVMS 7.1b= Message-ID: <15845bab.0110071105.4dfde324@posting.google.com>g  F I don't know whether or not anyone might have seen this before, or has any thoughts on the matter...e  I One of our systems (7.1, Phase V, let's call it CLUSA) had a few problems H last week.  It works as essentially a server, fielding database requests! that get fed on to other systems.i  E Operators were noticing a drastic slowdown in response times, which InE eventually concluded was being caused by node 1 of the 3-node cluster ? being unable to "see" one of the systems of which it would makebD database requests (let's call it CLUSB;  attempting to SET HOST fromF CLUSA1 to CLUSB1/CLUSB2/CLUSB3, or indeed, to any other DECnet node inG the same DECnet area, either using the node name (defined in the DECnetCG database), or the DECnet address itself, did not work;  it was possibleeD to Telnet from CLUSA1 to CLUSB1/CLUSB2/CLUSB3 or to any other DECnetB node in the same DECnet area, to the destination system, however).  E Strangely enough, it was possible however, to SET HOST from CLUSA2 to-+ any of the above systems, without problems.0  G Now, not being particularly knowledgeable in black are of router boxes, D I would surmise that since CLUSA1 and CLUSA2 go to the outside worldE via the same single piece of cable, that the fault ought not to be in : any intermediate boxes between CLUSA1 and CLUSB1/2/3 &etc.  F It was eventually decided to plan a reboot of the system later on that night, which had no effect.   F The following day, it suddenly occurred to me, to try to SET HOST from CLUSB1 back to CLUSA1.  @ This connected without problem.  At this point, a colleague thenE suggested doing a SET HOST back from CLUSA1 back to CLUSB1, which nowS( worked, and seemingly fixed the problem!  @ CLUSA1/2/3 and CLUSB1/2/3 are all end nodes, they are not DECnetB routers, although there are some routers between the two clusters,@ which (purportedly;  they are supported by another group) handle both DECnet and TCP/IP  F Myself and my colleague then speculated/hypothesised on whether or notG even an end node has some sort of routing cache, and further speculated F on whether or not it is held in a permanent on-disk cache, rather than> a volatile, in-memory one (which would explain why, if it were6 corrupted, a simple OVMS reboot would have no effect).  B ISTR that when a DECnet node dies (e.g. power fail, machine check,E planned shutdown, someone physically cuts any of the numerous cables,lD fibres, &etc. between the two systems), it takes several attempts atD communication before DECnet marks the node as "not available" (hence@ why SET HOSTs might take a long time before they time out, untilD DECnet "eventually" realises that the system won't be coming back upD in a hurry, and seemingly automatically gives you a "remote node notE reachable" on attempting to SET HOST to the system, or at least untilcA it receives a broadcast message from the system, indicating it isB
 alive again).c  C Anyone have any thoughts on this strange turn of events?  If DECnetoA relies on receiving broadcast messages from a system, to indicaterB that it is back up again, I'm guessing that any router boxes whichB filter out these messages, are not "a good thing" (not that I know2 for certain that they do do this, you understand)?     Mark   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 22:54:28 GMT ) From: rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz (Rob Buxton)n' Subject: Show Intrusion privilege queryr1 Message-ID: <3bc0dd06.615436861@news.wcc.govt.nz>c   hi All,   C I'm trying to give our help desk the ability to do a show intrusiont command.  % The docs say they need SECURITY priv. = Okay, no problem I can turn that off & on in the Menu Option.r  D Alas, this doesn't work, turning on alarm auditing indicates that it also needs SETPRV. See below.o  
 $ show intrus 8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   8-OCT-2001 10:06:54.75  %%%%%%%%%%%& Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on Node2 Security alarm (SECURITY) on Node, system id: 10nn+ Auditable event:          Privilege failuret= Event information:        SETPRV not used to enable temporaryl privilege not auth2 orized to process (SET PROCESS/PRIVILEGE, $SETPRV)1 Event time:                8-OCT-2001 10:06:54.74 " PID:                      2420233B! Process name:             TESTER3t! Username:                 TESTER3 ' Process owner:            [DEV,TESTER3]f Terminal name:            RTA1:  Image name:C- SPIKE$DKA500:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]CIA.EXEe  New privileges:           BYPASS= Old privileges:           CMKRNL,TMPMBX,NETMBX,AUDIT,SECURITY-  Privileges missing:       SETPRV  = %SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV, insufficient privilege or object protection 	 violation   A These Users only have the Restricted flag, they cannot be Captive5F because of a lot of spawned applications. Thay also have access to VMS# Mail, which allows Spawning to DCL..  B I tried granting the Users CMKRNL and AUDIT, which is what the CIA- image is installed with. Still does not work.V  D Granting SETPRV does seem to redress the problem but I don't want to give that to these Users.    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Oct 2001 18:14:09 -0500m- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) + Subject: Re: Show Intrusion privilege queryc3 Message-ID: <B3PRGKLAPGBs@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ] In article <3bc0dd06.615436861@news.wcc.govt.nz>, rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz (Rob Buxton) writes:i  E > I'm trying to give our help desk the ability to do a show intrusioni
 > command.  F > Granting SETPRV does seem to redress the problem but I don't want to > give that to these Users.I  : Create a batch queue which the help desk folk can control.  B Have SYSTEM submit /HOLD a batch job on that queue which resubmitsB itself /HOLD on every run.  Set the protection on the batch log soC the help desk folk can read it.  And don't forget to have the batchH% job issue the SHOW INTRUSION command.s   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 20:19:58 -0400. From: "warren sander" <sander@ma.ultranet.com>+ Subject: Re: Show Intrusion privilege queryt+ Message-ID: <9pqrfq$94j$1@bob.news.rcn.net>r  + are you running a web server on the system?*  J If so set up a password protected area and put a script in it in which the" exe has prives, install the image, have it do the commands.  K Or set up a captive account they log into that brings up a menu that allows % them to do the commands you want them* to be able to do.*  H In todays world I like the web based system better because less and less help desk folks know how to use  a terminal interface.a     --B ------------------------------------------------------------------6 Warren Sander                        OpenVMS MarketingK Compaq Computer Corporation          Work:  warren.sander@remove.compaq.comhL 200 Forest Street MR01-3/J1          Personal: sander@remove.ma.ultranet.com3 Marlboro, MA 01752                   (508) 467-4875d5    My opinions are my own and I only speak for myself ,          Read http://www.openvms.compaq.com/B ------------------------------------------------------------------: "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message- news:B3PRGKLAPGBs@eisner.encompasserve.org....J > In article <3bc0dd06.615436861@news.wcc.govt.nz>, rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz (Rob Buxton) writes: >LG > > I'm trying to give our help desk the ability to do a show intrusionl > > command. >aH > > Granting SETPRV does seem to redress the problem but I don't want to > > give that to these Users.e >~< > Create a batch queue which the help desk folk can control. >1D > Have SYSTEM submit /HOLD a batch job on that queue which resubmitsD > itself /HOLD on every run.  Set the protection on the batch log soE > the help desk folk can read it.  And don't forget to have the batch ' > job issue the SHOW INTRUSION command.h   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 16:40:51 -0400/ From: "Lawrence Windon" <goosebay@netquick.net> ' Subject: The only.."Legal-Chain-Letter" 9 Message-ID: <20011007164051.13733.qmail@mail1.aweber.com>2  : This e-mail is not spam.....You are receiving this e-mail : because you joined a Safe E-Mail List. Or I have received < an e-mail from you....No response required one time offer.    = -------------------------------------------------------------G  , A brand new, totally "RISK FREE" moneymaking* system to make INSANE amounts of money...    Click: goosebay@aweber.com     2 To stop additional follow up messages click below:A http://www.aweber.com/r.php?i=goosebay1&e=info-vax%40mvb.saic.com4   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 20:41:02 +0100p1 From: Steve Reece <SYSTEM@ipl.demon.co.nospam.uk>e, Subject: Re: VAX 7000 hw support going away?6 Message-ID: <3BC0BDDE.1683EFD8@ipl.demon.co.nospam.uk>   Alan Greig wrote:t > H > On 26 Sep 2001 07:59:34 -0500, koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) > wrote: > c > >In article <ot53rtgd1ig7hsorqhk4gdhc00crto1qel@4ax.com>, Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> writes:o > >iJ > >> And yes Compaq should restart production of anything it takes to keepJ > >> equipment supported for a minimum of five years after last ship date.K > >> That's what they promised after all. Ford still manufactures new sparei4 > >> parts for cars that haven't sold for ten years. > >lK > >   Ford doesn't manufacture many of thier own parts, and those who do do I > >   so because there is a market.  What market could you have predictedi > >   for VAX 7000 spare parts?b > B > Whether Ford manufacture or subcontract doesn't really matter... > F > It is not a question of what I could have predicted it is a questionD > of what Compaq promised. One of the supposed advantages of doing aG > deal with DEC/Compaq over a PC supplier was the 'enterprise' culture.eH > You knew whatever necessary would be done to meet a commitment. Compaq4 > shut down VAX manufacture too early in my opinion.  H I take it that this is the current "Compaq" rather than "Classic Compaq"B you're referring to Alan, given that it was in Digital's time that3 production of VAX processor chips stopped IIRC....?i     > The WTC might have? > speeded up the problem but, as I said, a list of products andeF > desupport dates existed within Compaq prior to 11th September. I wasH > given information in confidence for our company's internal use only soF > I cannot say more other than I would advise *everyone* with criticalF > non-current hardware to ask Compaq for an assurance that they expectC > to continue support for a minimum of five years after last ship -r% > assuming that is what you expected.d > E > During the DEC-10/DEC-20 phase out DEC handed over a lot of cash todF > purchase these machines back used to maintain their stock of spares.H > We were offered virtually nothing for a VAX 7000 series machine just aH > year ago. Surely someone must have noticed spares supplies dropping by > then?rA When I was with a former employer, we sold a VAX 7000-850 to a UKlF reseller for about 45000 GB.  We believed that they wanted it to sellH the CPU boards to another customer and we were only too happy to get ridG of the VAX since the cash enabled us to upgrade the CPUs in our pair ofm$ TurboLasers to the 5/625MHz variety.  H We later learned that the system had sat in the reseller's warehouse forG around six months because the requirement had gone away (whether due to C a change of heart by their customer or because they satisfied their  requirements elsewhere).  F In my opinion, there would have been little point in Compaq or DigitalF deciding to continue production of VAX processor chips for much longerB than they actually did.  Ok, so the stockpile ran out quicker thanA anyone expected but so what?  It could be put as a good reason tol migrate to Alpha.p  E On the other hand, perhaps Digital and Compaq tried to keep customers G happy for too long by continuing production of VAX and MicroVAX systemss@ for too long, thereby using up the stockpile of processor chips?   -- rG "A shadow fell over her face; clear, as if the composure were rent likesE a veil.  And her lips parted, but only with a short intake of breath. A Then she said, 'Well, then you are right.  Indeed, we are even.'"s% 		Louis, "Interview with the Vampire"h   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 19:54:06 GMT 4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>, Subject: Re: VAX 7000 hw support going away?= Message-ID: <yp2w7.90147$vq.17789625@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>   > "Steve Reece" <SYSTEM@ipl.demon.co.nospam.uk> wrote in message0 news:3BC0BDDE.1683EFD8@ipl.demon.co.nospam.uk...  H > In my opinion, there would have been little point in Compaq or DigitalH > deciding to continue production of VAX processor chips for much longerD > than they actually did.  Ok, so the stockpile ran out quicker thanC > anyone expected but so what?  It could be put as a good reason toE > migrate to Alpha.h >iG > On the other hand, perhaps Digital and Compaq tried to keep customerssI > happy for too long by continuing production of VAX and MicroVAX systemsfB > for too long, thereby using up the stockpile of processor chips? >n  J Pretty much a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. Back whenJ Digital ceased production of VAX CPUs, Jesse Lipcon said that the firm hadK "a warehouse full of processors." The stockpile may have been depleted morePC rapidly than Digital expected because of slower-than-expected Alphae	 adoption.e  K Of course, the Alpha adoption rate was negatively impacted by the fact that ; OS and apps support was slow to come to the architecture...    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Oct 2001 16:28:28 -0700D# From: tim@hookplastics.com.au (Tim) * Subject: Vax Basic converting WORD to LONG= Message-ID: <63fe8511.0110071528.2f38b022@posting.google.com>i  C We have a problem with our Vax Basic Application that is, dates arecD stored as &#8216;WORD&#8217; datatype which means the largest number it can hold is 32,767.  B In VAX Basic, the date function DATE$, which we use throughout our/ entire application, works in the following way:  DATE$(int-exp)
 Syntax rules:kB 1.	Int-exp can have up to six digits in the form yyyddd, where the= characters yyy specify the number of years since 1970 and thev, characters ddd specify the day of that year.B 2.	You must fill all three of the d positions with digits or zeros1 before you can fill the y positions. For example:lB 	DATE$(121) returns the date 01-May-70, day 121 of the year 1970.C 	DATE$(1201) returns the date 20-Jul-71, day 201 of the year 1971.aB 	DATE$(12001) returns the date 01-Jan-82, day 1 of the year 1982.D 	DATE$(10202) returns the date 21-Jul-80, day 202 of the year 1980.C (The above information about DATE$() comes from 4-50 Statements and ' Functions, VAX Basic Reference Manual.)0 Therefore&#8230;.>B DATE$(32365), 31-Dec-02 will be the last date our system currently allows you to enter!!t6 We have to change all dates from &#8216;WORD&#8217; to@ &#8216;LONG&#8217; and re-create all the data files with the new format.e  C Does anyone know of a quick way to do this, or any other solutions?r   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 17:02:36 -07002 From: "Randy Park" <rjpark@mindspring.com.nospaam>. Subject: Re: Vax Basic converting WORD to LONG3 Message-ID: <9pqqgr$oom$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>c  : I'm quite familiar with your situation.  There are several" possible soutions to your problem.  > 1.  Enlarge the 2 byte integers to 4 byte integers.  The DATE$: function will accept 4 byte integers and therefore display> dates beyond 2002.  This solution requires you to convert your< data files and rewrite the routine that converts an external date into an integer.s  ; 2.  Use the sign bit.  No data file conversion needed.  Youc? replace the DATE$ function with your own function that convertsr: the unsigned 2 byte integer into a 4 byte integer and then< calls the DATE$ function.  Note that BASIC does not directly= support unsigned integers.  This also means that your routine-: that converts an external date into a 2 byte integer needs: to be rewritten to use the sign bit.  This should give you$ another 32 years of date processing.  < 3.  Use an entirely different date data type.  This involves8 data file conversions and rewriting data type conversion	 routines.c  ; Solution two is probably the cheapest, but still leaves you7; with a restricted data format.  Note that the XENTIS report : writer supports all the above date formats and can do file' conversions of this nature very easily.(  . Tim <tim@hookplastics.com.au> wrote in message7 news:63fe8511.0110071528.2f38b022@posting.google.com...iE > We have a problem with our Vax Basic Application that is, dates areeF > stored as &#8216;WORD&#8217; datatype which means the largest number > it can hold is 32,767. >nD > In VAX Basic, the date function DATE$, which we use throughout our1 > entire application, works in the following way:c > DATE$(int-exp) > Syntax rules:SD > 1. Int-exp can have up to six digits in the form yyyddd, where the? > characters yyy specify the number of years since 1970 and thee. > characters ddd specify the day of that year.D > 2. You must fill all three of the d positions with digits or zeros3 > before you can fill the y positions. For example:hD >  DATE$(121) returns the date 01-May-70, day 121 of the year 1970.E >  DATE$(1201) returns the date 20-Jul-71, day 201 of the year 1971.eD >  DATE$(12001) returns the date 01-Jan-82, day 1 of the year 1982.F >  DATE$(10202) returns the date 21-Jul-80, day 202 of the year 1980.E > (The above information about DATE$() comes from 4-50 Statements andb) > Functions, VAX Basic Reference Manual.)  > Therefore&#8230;.tD > DATE$(32365), 31-Dec-02 will be the last date our system currently > allows you to enter!!t8 > We have to change all dates from &#8216;WORD&#8217; toB > &#8216;LONG&#8217; and re-create all the data files with the new	 > format.. > E > Does anyone know of a quick way to do this, or any other solutions?s   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 20:09:07 -0400% From: "John Vottero" <John@mvpsi.com>S* Subject: Re: Voluntarily giving up the CPU/ Message-ID: <ts1rl54rb74j4c@news.supernews.com>e  $ It sounds like you want sys$resched.  < "Mark Daniel" <mark.daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au> wrote in message) news:3BBF43C8.58E2A30F@wasd.vsm.com.au...aJ > When programming I would like to be able to say "go ahead reschedule, myI > process can wait".  I do not wish to $HIBER or $SCHDWK or interupt floweD > of execution or the stack at all, just give the scheduler a chanceF > before my quantum expires.  The equivalent of the wait state enteredG > during I/O spings to mind.  This is in the context of a CPU-intensiveaE > poll (sort of spinlock arrangement), for the *occasional* very longeE > period (tens of milliseconds, usually very brief) this might reducevF > wasted cycles (of course it may not, that what the test-bench is for > :^). >n > As always TIA. >h > --% > Non sinere illegitamus carborundum.l   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 18:57:01 -0400  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>9 Subject: Re: [VMS V7.3 Alpha] my first crash since monthst/ Message-ID: <1011007183215.38050B@Ives.egh.com>r  ) On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 zessin@decus.de wrote:i   > Jonathan Boswell wrote:) >  > >Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote: M > >> No, I wasn't aware that I should turn off XFC. I started the VMS upgradesJ > >> after XFC ECO came out and I never ran VMS V7.3 without it. I did see > >tM > >Ha!  Before applying this patch, I could crash individual Alphas simply bynQ > >doing a BACKUP.  After applying this patch, my whole cluster would erroneously-P > >think it lost quorum and permanently hang at the most inopportune times, suchQ > >as rebooting a single voting member.  Most annoying.  I have been forced again1 > >to disable the XFC. >  > Welcome to the club! > N > I have just aborted a project to install a SCSI cluster (2x DS20E, each withL > 2x DE600 NIC, 2x KZPBA-CB + 2 BA356 boxes, graphic card and a KZPBA-CA for > a tape - nothing special...).t > ! > There are a number of problems:t >  > - OpenVMS volume shadowing > G >   - a long time ago one of the SHADOW ECOs broke the functionality to%" >     put out meaningful messages: >     $e >     DSA2:a >  >     DSA1:N >  >     $d  A I've not seen these messages.  Are they on the console (bypassingo= OPCOM), or are you saying the terminal messages (after doing u@ $ reply/enable) are different from the messages in OPERATOR.LOG?  @ Or do this messages appear on you're terminal as output from the mount command?   > / >     At least this properly goes though OPCOM: > >     %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   1-OCT-2001 10:37:27.51  %%%%%%%%%%%7 >     Mount verification has completed for device DSA2:S> >     %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   1-OCT-2001 10:37:27.51  %%%%%%%%%%%7 >     Mount verification has completed for device DSA1:- > > >     Disappointing to see that this problem is still present. > L >   - after a <CONTROL-P> and BOOT at the console, the shadow merge does notH >     work correctly. The disk activity lights blink from time to time -J >     they should show constant activity. If I dismount a member and startL >     a shadow copy it works normal, but of course that is not an acceptableL >     workaround! (SHADOW_MAX_COPY is set to a sufficient value, before any- >     one asks)t  F There is a delay before it starts copying, and I think it waits longerG if the disk is busy.  However, if it hasn't started copying within 5-10aI minutes, I think something is wrong.  What does "$ show device/full" say?P   >  > - network problemsQ >   %PEA0, Excessive packet losses on LAN Path from EIB to EIB on REMOTE NODE xyz  > K >   That is just a cross-over cable between the 2 DS20E! It can happen withnL >   the setting of 'twisted-pait' and 'FastFD'. I have also seen this on theM >   'EIA' adapter. One error message came just after I had initiated a shadowe> >   copy. The LAN ECO (together with other ones) is installed.  A I think we used to get this on our NI cluster (2 Alphas+VAX) whenhD everything was on a hub, but not since converting to a switch.  OnlyG one of the Alphas is capable of 100MbFD, so we really haven't exercised E that part of it though.  I don't see why you should have any problems0F with a direct crossover cable.  Are you sure the cable is good and has all 8 wires?   > ; >   Would be nice to be able to use $ANALYZE/ERROR_LOG, no?uH >   I had tried to install WEBES from the tools CD, but that trashed theD >   system completely and I did a new VMS installation from scratch.  B Have you tried DECEvent (aka DIAGNOSE?)  I have installed it on anE Alpha 2000 running VMS V7.3 and it seems to work fine.  (No shadowinga# or cluster on that system, though.)d   > 	 > - hangstJ >   I have disabled the XFC (and I did not enable the VIOC). If I boot theL >   second member it can still happen that the first on freezes completely -4 >   even a <CONTROL-P> on the console does not work.I >   A 'SHOW CLUSTER/FULL' on the other system shows a status of 'BRK_NON'  >   for the frozen system. > H > Lets see: shadowing does not work properly, there are network problemsG >  and I have to find out that the service 'tools' are even more awfulls- >  than people have told since a long time...  > L > I have taken (forced) crash dumps from both members, but I don't have timeA > to report that next week - I'm on a (non-VMS related) training.  > > > Keith Parris, you are right: "don't run V7.3 in production". > Too bad I tried it anyway... >   E Did any or all these problems go away on V7.2-x, or did you just giver@ up?  You may be having hardware problems, especialy if the hangsE persist on V7.2.  (For example, a bad Ethernet card.  Remember a SCSItB cluster only does disk traffic on the SCSI.  It still needs a goodD Ethernetor other SCS circuit or you'll get hangs as it loses quorum.> And a bad card can hang the PCI bus and hence the whole node.)   Hope this helps.   > -- t > Uwe Zessin   -- o John Santose Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2001 23:42:27 GMT-4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>9 Subject: Re: [VMS V7.3 Alpha] my first crash since monthsT= Message-ID: <DL5w7.90404$vq.17970697@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>3  F One of the Good Things about VMS is a high degree of crash-resistance.F Imagine how many "my first crash" tales we'd get if this newsgroup was comp.os.windows?   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Oct 2001 17:00:18 -0700-1 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris)n9 Subject: Re: [VMS V7.3 Alpha] my first crash since monthsN= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0110071600.50dcda22@posting.google.com>s  G zessin@decus.de wrote in message news:<00A0329E.9115F7F4.3@decus.de>...? > - OpenVMS volume shadowing > G >   - a long time ago one of the SHADOW ECOs broke the functionality to " >     put out meaningful messages: >     $o >     DSA2:  >  >     DSA1:7 >  >     $t  B I've seen and wondered about these cryptic messages myself for theC last 2-3 years (and reported them to the CSC, and mentioned them tocD the shadowing maintainer).  Based on my observations, they appear toC be trying to announce that a mount verification operation is takingtE place on the listed unit.  Sometimes the shadowset members are listedt@ in parantheses after the name of the virtual unit, e.g. "DSA101:E ($1$DUA1:, $2$DUA2:)".  My guess is that the explanatory test messagedC which should surround these arguments is being omitted due to a bug E associated with the $FAO call in the code.  Alternatively, they mightpD conceivably be left-over diagnostic displays in the code that aren't1 getting disabled for the external release of VMS.0  C These messages seem to go directly to the console port, rather thane being sent as OPCOM messages.   L >   - after a <CONTROL-P> and BOOT at the console, the shadow merge does notH >     work correctly. The disk activity lights blink from time to time -J >     they should show constant activity. If I dismount a member and startL >     a shadow copy it works normal, but of course that is not an acceptableL >     workaround! (SHADOW_MAX_COPY is set to a sufficient value, before any- >     one asks)a  @ Shadowing will throttle back merge activity if it sees user disk	 activity.i  > There are some new logical names you can use to make the mergeE operation less sensitive to user I/O and thus complete faster, at the B expense of higher adverse impact to user I/O performance while the merge completes.   > - network problemsQ >   %PEA0, Excessive packet losses on LAN Path from EIB to EIB on REMOTE NODE xyze > K >   That is just a cross-over cable between the 2 DS20E! It can happen withtL >   the setting of 'twisted-pait' and 'FastFD'. I have also seen this on theM >   'EIA' adapter. One error message came just after I had initiated a shadowa> >   copy. The LAN ECO (together with other ones) is installed.  ? Since you mention EI as the device name, this is a DE600-family D adapter.  Do you have the latest firmware revision installed for the adapter?  D It might be informative to try a pair of DE500 adapters (EW devices)% if you have some extras lying around.0  ; >   Would be nice to be able to use $ANALYZE/ERROR_LOG, no? H >   I had tried to install WEBES from the tools CD, but that trashed theD >   system completely and I did a new VMS installation from scratch.  : DECevent is the current tool to use for error log analysisE ($DIAGNOSE/TRANSLATE is the command), except that Compaq Analyze getsuC a piece of the action for the new GS-series (Wildfire) boxes, IIRC.h  	 > - hangs J >   I have disabled the XFC (and I did not enable the VIOC). If I boot theL >   second member it can still happen that the first on freezes completely -4 >   even a <CONTROL-P> on the console does not work.I >   A 'SHOW CLUSTER/FULL' on the other system shows a status of 'BRK_NON'l >   for the frozen system.  B There has been some discussion here in the past about systems thatD hung and didn't respond to Control-P.  I'd scan for clues from thoseB posts, and make sure you are at a recent console firmware revision level.C -------------------------------------------------------------------sC Keith Parris | parris at encompasserve dot org | VMS consulting on:mC Clusters, Disaster Tolerance, Internals, Performance, Storage & I/O    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.559 ************************