1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 08 Oct 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 560       Contents:  %SYSTEM-F-STKOVF, stack overflow$ Re: %SYSTEM-F-STKOVF, stack overflow$ Re: %SYSTEM-F-STKOVF, stack overflow$ Re: %SYSTEM-F-STKOVF, stack overflow) Re: Announcing ht://Dig 3.1.5 for OpenVMS * Re: Anyone found a use for LNM$SYSCLUSTER?* Re: Anyone found a use for LNM$SYSCLUSTER? Audit and protected subsystems" Re: Audit and protected subsystems" Re: Audit and protected subsystemsB CETS2001 presentations posted (non-technical, Keynote and General)F Re: CETS2001 presentations posted (non-technical, Keynote and General)F Re: CETS2001 presentations posted (non-technical, Keynote and General)F Re: CETS2001 presentations posted (non-technical, Keynote and General)& Re: Compaq Service FTP1 Server Broken?& Re: Compaq Service FTP1 Server Broken? CSWING
 Re: CSWING
 Re: CSWING Re: CSWS Post Method Question? Re: CSWS Post Method Question?) Re: DCPS and IP_RawTCP (Telenet printing) + Re: DEClaser Fonts? (was Re: Printer fonts)  FreeVMS  Re: FreeVMS  Re: FreeVMS  Re: FreeVMS : how to right-justify a string within a DCL f$fao directive> RE: how to right-justify a string within a DCL f$fao directive Re: Itanium and OpenVMS  Re: Itanium and OpenVMS  Re: Itanium and OpenVMS P Re: Meta, giga, yadda yadda yadda (was Re: Comments on Compaq        presentatio1 Re: My system will not boot properly 6.2 on 3100.  net$ignore_decnet " Netcraft is now able to detect VMS& Re: Netcraft is now able to detect VMS
 New to VMS Re: New to VMS Re: New to VMS Re: New to VMS' Re: Oracle/OpenVMS Itanium quote on web  Re: Pathworks Licensing Query = Re: PC164, OVMS7.2, isacfg and graphic cards (MACH64, S3 968)  Re: Purveyor Re: Purveyor Users?  Re: Question on VMS Virus   Re: Reset error account on Alpha" Re: Show Intrusion privilege query# Re: VAX 7000 hw support going away? % Re: Vax Basic converting WORD to LONG % Re: Vax Basic converting WORD to LONG  VMS721_Mail ECO Patch Problem  Re: VMS<->Tru64  Re: VMS<->Tru64 
 VMSMail APIs?   Re: [LYRIS] OpenVMS Patches List  Re: [LYRIS] OpenVMS Patches List0 Re: [VMS V7.3 Alpha] my first crash since months0 Re: [VMS V7.3 Alpha] my first crash since months  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:41:11 +0200 - From: Jouk Jansen <joukj@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl> ) Subject: %SYSTEM-F-STKOVF, stack overflow 3 Message-ID: <3BC174B7.4BA63101@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl>    Hi all,   C When changing a working program into a multi-threaded one I get the  following run-time error: "   %SYSTEM-F-STKOVF, stack overflowB I do not hoe to solve this problem, I do not even have any hint onH what stack is involved. Does the KSTACKPAGES system parameters something to do with this problem? Please help me.    For the record: 3    This program was tested on OpenVMS 7.3 for Alpha =    I'm using the latest releases of the compilers (F90,C,C++)                     Jouk    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2001 06:43:11 -0500 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) - Subject: Re: %SYSTEM-F-STKOVF, stack overflow 3 Message-ID: <I3tS9tddZuTs@eisner.encompasserve.org>   c In article <3BC174B7.4BA63101@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl>, Jouk Jansen <joukj@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl> writes:   E > When changing a working program into a multi-threaded one I get the  > following run-time error: $ >   %SYSTEM-F-STKOVF, stack overflowD > I do not hoe to solve this problem, I do not even have any hint onJ > what stack is involved. Does the KSTACKPAGES system parameters something > to do with this problem?    B More likely it is the stack size you specify when creating threadsG within your program.  When you do not use threads, the single user-mode  stack can expand automatically.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 15:00:31 +0200 - From: Jouk Jansen <joukj@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl> - Subject: Re: %SYSTEM-F-STKOVF, stack overflow 3 Message-ID: <3BC1BF8F.1922C9E7@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl>    Larry Kilgallen wrote: > e > In article <3BC174B7.4BA63101@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl>, Jouk Jansen <joukj@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl> writes:  > G > > When changing a working program into a multi-threaded one I get the  > > following run-time error: & > >   %SYSTEM-F-STKOVF, stack overflowF > > I do not hoe to solve this problem, I do not even have any hint onL > > what stack is involved. Does the KSTACKPAGES system parameters something > > to do with this problem? > D > More likely it is the stack size you specify when creating threadsI > within your program.  When you do not use threads, the single user-mode ! > stack can expand automatically.  Thanks. That helped.  / What is the best method to tune this stacksize?            Jouk   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2001 08:19:39 -0500 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) - Subject: Re: %SYSTEM-F-STKOVF, stack overflow 3 Message-ID: <Ar5NZin5kdhu@eisner.encompasserve.org>   c In article <3BC1BF8F.1922C9E7@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl>, Jouk Jansen <joukj@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl> writes:  > Larry Kilgallen wrote: >>  f >> In article <3BC174B7.4BA63101@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl>, Jouk Jansen <joukj@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl> writes: >>  H >> > When changing a working program into a multi-threaded one I get the >> > following run-time error:' >> >   %SYSTEM-F-STKOVF, stack overflow G >> > I do not hoe to solve this problem, I do not even have any hint on M >> > what stack is involved. Does the KSTACKPAGES system parameters something  >> > to do with this problem?  >>  E >> More likely it is the stack size you specify when creating threads J >> within your program.  When you do not use threads, the single user-mode" >> stack can expand automatically. > Thanks. That helped. > 1 > What is the best method to tune this stacksize?   * In Ada it is done in the task declaration.  @ For C (unless someone pops up here with a suggestion) you should check the DECthreads manual.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:54:52 +0200 I From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DFran=E7ois=20PI=C9RONNE?= <jfp@altavista.net> 2 Subject: Re: Announcing ht://Dig 3.1.5 for OpenVMS- Message-ID: <3BC15BCC.18D0FF89@altavista.net>   
 Hi Martin,   Martin Vorlaender wrote: > 8 > I happily announce release 3 of the ht://Dig VMS port. > E > Besides a bug fix to make HTDIG's -t option now *really* work, this E > is a performance release. I was able to cut *in half* the time that ; > HTDIG.EXE (the indexer) takes! [1]  Hi, Jean-Franois :-)  >   < I have rebuild the index using your latest kit: 3h30 elapsedM Performances are much better, during the previous test, i have forgot a large L directory which has no HTML link on the main page (HyperShelf link). In this5 test i have indexed, i hope, the whole documentation.   K I have also rebuild the swish-e index, in the previous index the underscore L character was treated as a word separator, it is now a valid word character.  A If you have any interest i have put the two search engines online  (http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/)   D If you have any doubt about the usefulness of swish-e take a look at7 http://search.apache.org/ and look at the last line ;-)    Regards.  
 Jean-Francois   8 > I split the distribution into binaries and data files. > They are available at I > ftp://ftp.pdv-systeme.de/vms/htdig-3_1_5-vms-rel3.zip (2286 blocks) and D > ftp://ftp.pdv-systeme.de/vms/htdig-3_1_5-vms-data.zip (929 blocks) > E > The data files haven't changed with respect to the first and second M > release, so anyone wo already has one of these will only need the binaries.  > H > A GNU diff file containing the changes to the first distribution is at? > ftp://ftp.pdv-systeme.de/vms/htdig-3_1_5-vms-rel3_source.diff  >  > Enjoy,
 >   Martin >  > [1] The whole story:I > With the help of PCA - again, thanks a lot for the hobbyist program - I J > found that HTDIG.EXE spent nearly half its time in a particular fopen().I > Looking at the source I found that this class' (WordList) methods open, H > write and close the output file every time an entry is added! TrustingF > in ODS-2, I changed the code to open the file once and keep it open, > and voil! > I > Besides that, Paul Repacholi sent me the fopen() FAB and RAB options he K > used to speed up GZIP (thanks, Paul), but these didn't have a significant F > impact in my tests. On the contrary: the Berkeley DB file operationsK > actually became slower... Think I'll have to toy around with those a bit.  > --L > One OS to rule them all       | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer9 > One OS to find them           | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de L > One OS to bring them all      |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/@ > And in the Darkness bind them.| home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2001 06:51:53 -0500 2 From: cochrane@encompasserve.org (Arthur Cochrane)3 Subject: Re: Anyone found a use for LNM$SYSCLUSTER? 3 Message-ID: <ZUCcd5dKSSw$@eisner.encompasserve.org>   L >> :    I also wish there was a VMS_COMMON logical in the SYS$SYSROOT searchK >> :    list. This would be empty on a fresh install and the system manager K >> :    would use to create the necessary procedures to boot and manage the E >> :    system. (Also, a SYS_MANAGER, SYS_SYSTEM, SYS_HELP, etc.) ...  >>  J >>   Locally, we simply create and use a third root behind the SYS$SYSROOTL >>   definition, specifically CLU$COMMON:.  We've discussed directly adding L >>   this into OpenVMS (rather than implementing it locally), but there are % >>   presently no plans in this area.  >>  H >>   I typically use a collection of "runt" files, each of which simply H >>   chains to the equivilent file in the common area.  This requires noE >>   changes to anything, is fully supported, and works quite nicely.  > , > When (where) does SYS$SYSROOT be defined ?R > So when and how would it be wise to redefine SYS$SYSROOT to include a 3rd root ? >  > Jean-Franois Marchal  > X9000 - LYON (FR)   K     Here is part of my SYLOGICALS.COM where I add a logical to SYS$SYSROOT:    $! $ gosub	user_system_logicals $!U $ call add_logical_list	sys_common: sys$sysroot	lnm$system_table executive lnm$system  $!D $ define/system/executive_mode/nolog	sys$sylogin	sys_manager:sylogin $!N $ define/system/executive_mode/nolog	utility		sys_common:[utility],sys_system: $! $ exit $!!  $add_logical_list: subroutine ! $logical_add =	p1	! String to add # $logical_name =	p2	! List to add to ' $logical_table =p3	! Logical name table  $logical_mode =	p4	! Mode 4 $logical_dist =	p5	! Logical name table to define in7 $if logical_mode .eqs. "" then logical_mode:=SUPERVISOR : $if logical_dist .eqs. "" then logical_dist =logical_table $!N $ max_index = f$trnlnm (logical_name,logical_table,,logical_mode,,"MAX_INDEX") $ index = 0  $ value = "" $ before:=false  $! $loop:, $ if index .gt. max_index then goto end_loopE $ nxt_value = f$trnlnm(logical_name,logical_table,index,logical_mode) 6 $ if nxt_value .eqs. logical_add then goto skip_defineP $ terminal = f$trnlnm(logical_name,logical_table,index,logical_mode,,"TERMINAL")R $ concealed = f$trnlnm(logical_name,logical_table,index,logical_mode,,"CONCEALED") $ if terminal .or. concealed $ then $	if terminal .and. concealed  $	thenE $		nxt_value=nxt_value+"/translation_attributes=(concealed,terminal)"  $	else $		if terminal $		then : $			nxt_value=nxt_value+"/translation_attributes=terminal" $		endif $		if concealed  $		then ; $			nxt_value=nxt_value+"/translation_attributes=concealed"  $		endif $	endif  $ endif / $! Insert mine before system logical name table ! $ if nxt_value .eqs. "LNM$SYSTEM"  $ then+ $	nxt_value = logical_add + "," + nxt_value  $	before:=true $ endif ! $ value = value + nxt_value + ","  $ index = index + 1  $ goto loop  $!
 $end_loop: $ if before  $ thenF $	value = f$extract(0,f$length(value)-1,value)	! Remove extra , at end $ else $	value = value + logical_add  $ endif I $ define/table='logical_dist'/'logical_mode'/nolog	'logical_name'	'value' 
 $skip_define:  $ exit $ endsubroutine  $!!  $user_system_logicals: $ node = f$getsyi("NODENAME")  $ define/system/executive_mode/nolog	sys_common     'f$trnlnm("sys$sysdevice")'[vms_common.]/translation_attributes=(concealed,terminal)D $ define/system/executive_mode/nolog	sys_manager	sys_common:[sysmgr]I $ define/system/executive_mode/nolog	sys_startup	sys_common:[sys$startup] C $ define/system/executive_mode/nolog	sys_system	sys_common:[sysexe] D $ define/system/executive_mode/nolog	sys_library	sys_common:[syslib]C $ define/system/executive_mode/nolog	sys_update	sys_common:[sysupd] A $ define/system/executive_mode/nolog	sys_help	sys_common:[syshlp] N $ define/system/executive_mode/nolog	sys_examples	sys_common:[syshlp.examples]T $ define/system/executive_mode/nolog	decw_examples	sys_common:[syshlp.examples.decw]j $ define/system/executive_mode/nolog	databases	sys_common:['node'_databases],sys_common:[common_databases]E $ define/system/executive_mode/nolog	log_files	sys_common:[log_files]  $! $ return   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 13:43:27 GMT 1 From: "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com> 3 Subject: Re: Anyone found a use for LNM$SYSCLUSTER? 2 Message-ID: <3BC1ADC0.A321834D@clarityconnect.com>  / SYS$COMMON:[SYS$STARTUP]VMS$INITIAL-050_VMS.COM   : To see where this is in the startup order do the following $ MCR SYSMAN( STARTUP SET DATABASE STARTUP$STARTUP_VMS STARTUP SHOW FILE   H You should see that VMS$INITIAL-050_VMS.COM is the 1st command procedure= called once STARTUP gets to the SYSMAN startup databases.  So G SYCONFIG.COM is your earliest opportunity to do system specific startup 9 tasks without modifying a VMS supplied startup procedure.    Jean-Franois Marchal wrote: > , > When (where) does SYS$SYSROOT be defined ?R > So when and how would it be wise to redefine SYS$SYSROOT to include a 3rd root ? >  > Jean-Franois Marchal  > X9000 - LYON (FR)    --  D Jilly	- Working from Home in the Chemung River Valley - Lockwood, NY0 	- jilly@clarityconnect.com			- Brett Bodine fan. 	- Mark.Jilson@Compaq.com			- since 1975 or so, 	- http://www.jilly.baka.com               -   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2001 02:49:15 -0700 1 From: anders_wallin@altavista.com (Anders Wallin) ' Subject: Audit and protected subsystems < Message-ID: <6cc41c7.0110080149.53cbe3ed@posting.google.com>   Hi!   > I am setting up a proteted subsystem consisting of a directoryE structure used as an archive. Users have access to this structure via E a gatekeeper program. Permission is granted based on a combination of  identifers.   C I would like to use AUDIT to trace Unauthorized write/delete to the D archive structure. Unauthorized in this sense means using privileges7 (sysprv, bypass, etc) to bypass the gatekeeper program.   @ Is it possibe to set up AUDIT to trace ONLY unauthorized access?  F The environment is an Alpha cluster with members running different VMS versions (6.2-1 to 7.2-1)    Thanks
 Anders Wallin    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:13:14 +0100* From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>+ Subject: Re: Audit and protected subsystems + Message-ID: <9ps1oc$u8k@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>   > "Anders Wallin" <anders_wallin@altavista.com> wrote in message6 news:6cc41c7.0110080149.53cbe3ed@posting.google.com...  E > I would like to use AUDIT to trace Unauthorized write/delete to the F > archive structure. Unauthorized in this sense means using privileges9 > (sysprv, bypass, etc) to bypass the gatekeeper program.  > B > Is it possibe to set up AUDIT to trace ONLY unauthorized access?  F You generally have more selectivity in post-filtering. You can drop an> ACL on it for (Write, Delete) and then exclude your gatekeeper= program in your report.  ANAL/AUDIT/IGNORE=IMAGE=<gatekeeper>    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2001 06:46:33 -0500 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) + Subject: Re: Audit and protected subsystems 3 Message-ID: <poMsdDh6QfR5@eisner.encompasserve.org>   p In article <6cc41c7.0110080149.53cbe3ed@posting.google.com>, anders_wallin@altavista.com (Anders Wallin) writes:  E > I would like to use AUDIT to trace Unauthorized write/delete to the F > archive structure. Unauthorized in this sense means using privileges9 > (sysprv, bypass, etc) to bypass the gatekeeper program.n > B > Is it possibe to set up AUDIT to trace ONLY unauthorized access?  > You can audit only accesses that use privilege, and if in your? environment that is "unauthorized" then you have met your goal.    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:43:13 GMTS& From: "Ken Farmer" <kfarmer@tru64.org>K Subject: CETS2001 presentations posted (non-technical, Keynote and General)S> Message-ID: <ljgw7.66414$0x.24179560@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>  E I've posted several presentations at http://www.tru64.org.  Sorry, noeH technical presentations yet.  I've been told I will be able to post them soon...we'll see what happens.  E Rich Marcello covers IPF transition, "Golden Blanket" and HP-UX/Tru64?C merger.  Terry Shannon, as usual, goes straight to the point in hisIF presentation covering the competative landscape, Alpha-IPF transition,- OpenVMS, EV7, HP-Compaq merger and much more.l  E I hate to say this but Netscape users may have a problem (tested with E Netscape 4.7). I converted PowerPoint presentations to .htm but guessiJ what...suprise, suprise...they only work with Internet Explorer.  I'm just, going to bite my tongue and not comment.  ;|     Michael Capellas (Keynote)' Chairman and CEO, Compaq Computer Corp.t- Building Tomorrows Leader Today (.pps | .htm)i   Howard Elias> Senior VP & Group GM, Business Critical Solutions Group (BCSG)J Powering The Real-Time Enterprise With Business Critical Solutions (.pps | .htm)   
 Rich MarcelloeA VP and General Manager, High Performance Systems Division, (BCSG)i= You Can Bet Your Business On Compaq And Itanium (.pps | .htm)A  
 Terry Shannone1 IT Consultant and Publisher, Shannon knows CompaqMI We Live In Interesting Times: Compaq's Strategic Directions (.pps | .htm)e       Ken    -- Ken Farmer, kfarmer@tru64.org  Tru64.org, http://www.tru64.orge Tru64.org Newsletter:W< http://www2.tru64.org/pages.php?page=Newsletter-Registration   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:30:57 GMT 2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)O Subject: Re: CETS2001 presentations posted (non-technical, Keynote and General)-/ Message-ID: <BMiw7.95$RL6.473@news.cpqcorp.net>-  g In article <ljgw7.66414$0x.24179560@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>, "Ken Farmer" <kfarmer@tru64.org> writes: F :I hate to say this but Netscape users may have a problem (tested withF :Netscape 4.7). I converted PowerPoint presentations to .htm but guessK :what...suprise, suprise...they only work with Internet Explorer.  I'm just-- :going to bite my tongue and not comment.  ;|   I   Extract to jpg or similar, and use those to create your own HTML pages.e  L   What HTML I've seen that was directly generated by Microsoft applications L   traditionally contains a variety of Microsoft extensions, and it tends to M   make (somewhat unwarranted) assumptions about the web server and about the  K   browser used.  I personally prefer to avoid making similar assumptions in0L   order to broaden the potential audience for the information, and the data K   extraction to jpg or similar format is an approach I've successfully used    in the past.  I   Various OpenVMS technical presentations from CETS2001 are available at:r  0     http://www.openvms.compaq.com/presentations/  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 17:07:03 +0100t& From: ChrisQ <lightwork@aerosys.co.uk>O Subject: Re: CETS2001 presentations posted (non-technical, Keynote and General)3- Message-ID: <3BC1CF27.DB49DEBA@aerosys.co.uk>e   Hoff Hoffman wrote:% >    > 2 >     http://www.openvms.compaq.com/presentations/ >   D Impressed by all that. Does this mean that some people in Compaq areB finally waking up to fact that VMS is probably the most robust and& secure mid range OS around at present.    A reappraisal is long overdue...   Chrise   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 16:09:20 GMTr4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>O Subject: Re: CETS2001 presentations posted (non-technical, Keynote and General)a= Message-ID: <Qckw7.91992$vq.18667265@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>k  3 "ChrisQ" <lightwork@aerosys.co.uk> wrote in messagea' news:3BC1CF27.DB49DEBA@aerosys.co.uk...o > Hoff Hoffman wrote:l > >r >d > > 4 > >     http://www.openvms.compaq.com/presentations/ > >h >iF > Impressed by all that. Does this mean that some people in Compaq areD > finally waking up to fact that VMS is probably the most robust and( > secure mid range OS around at present. >R" > A reappraisal is long overdue...  L Oh, I suspect that everyone in OpenVMS ENGINEERING, and all the Ambassadors,B are well aware of this fact. So are Rich Marcello and Mark Gorham.  : So are 98 percent of the 306 respondents to the OS poll atL http://enterprise.cnet.com/enterprise/0-9566-601-1751615.html?tag=st.it.9566 -701-1751615.dirruo.uo  % Obviously the problem lies elsewhere.h   ------------------------------  " Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 08:42:10 GMT' From: Rick Dyson <Rick-Dyson@UIowa.EDU> / Subject: Re: Compaq Service FTP1 Server Broken?t) Message-ID: <3BC166E2.DB146A11@UIowa.EDU>   E > Maybe this explains the original problem with non-anonymous logins.   = 	I was always able to log in with my contract account, it wasnC just that their server seemed to be broken for them...  I could not  even do a "dir".  E > It looks like they've changed their FTP server to be case-sensitive B > about usernames and possibly passwords.  The original poster hasA > been snipped out of this thread, but can you verify the case ofgC > the username and password originally supplied by DECCOMPAQHP, and-? > make sure you are preserving it (with quotes if supplied on as@ > command line?)  Also, it might be that some FTP clients alwaysB > upcase or downcase usernames and passwords (but if so, how would= > they work with Unix servers, which have used case-sensitivee8 > passwords forever, IIRC?)  Which client are you using?  ; 	I was just using TCPIP from DCL as the client and I have a C command procedure that used FTP /Username = ##### /Password = "..."u? where the username was a numeric and the password had uppercase  letters.  I did quote it:   A $ FTP ftp.support.compaq.com /Username = 921483 /Password = "..."rP 220 ftp1.support.compaq.com FTP server (Digital UNIX Version 4.104 Fri Jul 6 10: 02:59 MDT 2001) ready.' Connected to ftp1.service.digital.com. h! 331 Password required for 921483.e 230-Logging in with home = "/".a 230 User 921483 logged in. FTP> dir 200 PORT command successful.I 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls (129.255.192.30,1100).e" /bin/ls: No such file or directory   226 Transfer complete.9 36 bytes received in 00:00:00.00 seconds (35.15 Kbytes/s)      Regards, Rick   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:03:45 GMTa2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)/ Subject: Re: Compaq Service FTP1 Server Broken?t/ Message-ID: <5niw7.91$RL6.377@news.cpqcorp.net>d  Y In article <1011005184823.37040B-100000@Ives.egh.com>, John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> writes:h& :On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, Rick Dyson wrote: : & :> > Let me try and unconfuse you. :-) :> > tR :> > [I have not tried it on VMS, but I've duplicated your problem, interactively,* :> > on Win98, with the MSDOS FTP client.] :> > t :> > >P :> > >       Interactively, I have no problem using this site via Anonymous FTP.N :> > >However, the command procedure I have used for years suddenly won't workB :> > >for me anymore.  I use TCPIP v5.0A ECO2 from OpenVMS v7.2-1. :> > >/ :> > >$ Define /User_Mode Sys$Input Sys$CommandpD :> > >$ FTP /UserName = Anonymous /Password = "rick-dyson@uiowa.edu"       Um, yuck.   &   Please use COPY/FTP when on OpenVMS.  D   The COPY/FTP command has been available since V6.2, it works very G   nicely, and it does not involve all this command redirection hackery.      For example:  I     $ COPY/FTP/BINARY x.y.z"user pwd"::"remotefilespec" localfilespec.extu  D     $ COPY/FTP/BINARY/ANON x.y.z::"remotefilespec" localfilespec.ext  E   Various other qualifier options are available.   See the HELP text.n      N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 09:36:07 +01008 From: John Macallister <J.Macallister1@physics.ox.ac.uk> Subject: CSWINGnN Message-ID: <35666012DF4CD411BE940090279FA240010BF08A@ppnt41.physics.ox.ac.uk>  D Anyone know if there's a version of CSWING which works under Linux?    John  B Name: John B. Macallister  E-mail: j.macallister1@physics.ox.ac.ukH Post: Nuclear and Astrophysics Laboratory, Keble Road, Oxford OX1 3RH,UKA Phone: +44-1865-273388 (direct)  273333 (reception)  273418 (Fax)T   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2001 14:43:48 GMTu/ From: Thomas Dickey <dickey@saltmine.radix.net>n Subject: Re: CSWINGL* Message-ID: <9pse34$a77$1@news1.Radix.Net>  9 John Macallister <J.Macallister1@physics.ox.ac.uk> wrote:)F > Anyone know if there's a version of CSWING which works under Linux?   N there are several Norton Commander clones that have displays similar to CSWING (which run on Linux, etc.)   -- e= Thomas E. Dickey <dickey@radix.net> <dickey@herndon4.his.com>t http://dickey.his.come ftp://dickey.his.com   ------------------------------    Date: 08 Oct 2001 22:04:34 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> Subject: Re: CSWING - Message-ID: <873d4u2pot.fsf@prep.synonet.com>a  : John Macallister <J.Macallister1@physics.ox.ac.uk> writes:  F > Anyone know if there's a version of CSWING which works under Linux?    Emacs. C-X d aka dired.t   -- e< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.t@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:02:41 +0200d2 From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman@digital.com>' Subject: Re: CSWS Post Method Question?R+ Message-ID: <3BC187D1.3AF66EF2@digital.com>l  A My understanding is that if you use the POST method you read froml+ APACHE$INPUT, not symbols or logical names.   2 Reading input from a TEXTAREA I've used (in BASIC) ---<code segment>---3        open "APACHE$INPUT" for input as file #1%, &,                  recordsize 8192%     ....        input #1%, a$     .... ---<end code segment>---   Hal Kuff wrote:_ > B >    I see in the install guide that one can configure CSWS to useK > multi-seqment logical names for large Post Method strings... what I can't D > find are the docs that tell you what the logical names are and the
 > formats?   -- tE ---------------------------------------------------------------------	E Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that.e? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il*lF Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------r   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 08:09:12 -0400o- From: Michael Austin <miaustin@bellsouth.net> ' Subject: Re: CSWS Post Method Question?a- Message-ID: <3BC19768.776ADFD1@bellsouth.net>   J Here is a Perl script that handles very long environment variables.  T1 is ~4096 characters  + http://www.firstdbasource.com/testlong.htmlt   Michael Austin DBA Consultant   Hal Kuff wrote:(  B >    I see in the install guide that one can configure CSWS to useK > multi-seqment logical names for large Post Method strings... what I can'taD > find are the docs that tell you what the logical names are and the
 > formats?   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 10:47:12 -0400e0 From: Paul Anderson <paul.r.anderson@compaq.com>2 Subject: Re: DCPS and IP_RawTCP (Telenet printing); Message-ID: <081020011047126156%paul.r.anderson@compaq.com>n  : In article <3BBF0D34.EBCBCC80@peoplepc.com>, Jack Patteeuw  <jjpatteeuw@peoplepc.com> wrote:  O > My question is, is there any type of protocol that is used on this port or ispL > it strictly a "one way communication".  If there is a protocol, what is it$ > called and where is it documented.  @ DCPS sends messages to, and receives replies from, the printer'sE PostScript interpreter.  There are some communications sequences sentoD (Control-T for status, Control-C to cancel a job, Control-D to end a? PostScript job) but otherwise the data sent is PostScript.  ThelD communications portion is described in the Adobe Serial and Parallel' Communications Protocols Specification:y  G <http://partners.adobe.com:80/asn/developer/pdfs/tn/5009.Comm_Spec.pdf>w  O > If there is no protocol, then is there any way for the printer to tell VMS ifAI > it is out of paper or needs toner, etc. other that using osmosis on theA > "stalled" status.1  E DCPS relies on messages from the printer to report engine events suchbF as "paper out" or "paper jam".  If the printer does not report such anE event to DCPS, you won't know the reason for the stalled queue.  Some < printers are better than others about reporting such things.   Paul   -- n  Paul Anderson   OpenVMS Engineeringe   Compaq Computer Corporationl   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 10:25:05 +0200# From: "Terje Bodal" <terjeb@hrp.no>C4 Subject: Re: DEClaser Fonts? (was Re: Printer fonts)+ Message-ID: <1002529495.381824@news.hrp.no>n  ? "Hoff Hoffman" <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote in message ( news:ngnv7.26$RL6.24@news.cpqcorp.net...K > In article <1002285849.791796@news.hrp.no>, "Terje Bodal" <terjeb@hrp.no>d writes:nB > :Does anyone know how to find out wich fonts is available on the
 postscriptG > :printer and how to load additinonal fonts. I have a problem printingm cyrilicnC > :characters on a dec laser using the Arial isolatin cyrilic font.t >  >   Which DEClaser?e4 >   How much memory does the printer have installed?< >   Specific details of the particular problems encountered? >a" DEClaser 3500 with 7 MB of memory.  E The problem is that we are not able to print cyrilic charaters on the,L printer, more specific the Arial isolatin cyrilic font (at least acording to
 the ps file).L   Part of the ps file:  L [15 0 0 16 0 0] /Arial-ISOLatinCyrillic/Arial-ISOLatinCyrillicIE sf 0 0 0 sc     Terjeo   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 12:03:46 +0200e: From: BERTRAND =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Jo=EBl?= <bertrand@cnam.fr> Subject: FreeVMS& Message-ID: <3BC17A02.7010401@cnam.fr>   	Good morning,  0 	I try to relaunch an old project named FreeVMS D (http://freshmeat.net/projects/freevms). So I search volunteers and F informations about this system. I have used OpenVMS on several VAXes, G but a long time ago... I have created a mailing list freevms@ml.free.frt. (French/English). All volunteers are welcome !  	 	Regards,b   	JKB, freevms@free.frr   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 14:52:36 +0200 (CEST)o: From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl> Subject: Re: FreeVMSJ Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0110081441560.32173-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>  8 On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, BERTRAND [ISO-8859-15] Jo=EBl wrote:   >+=09Good morning, >+6 >+=09I try to relaunch an old project named FreeVMS=20    Welcome :)   6  Have you for sure check archives about the poject*s*,4 including discussion here and on the freevms lists ?  Address: Free-VMS@lp.se? (I am still a subscriber, but have *not* see you message on thei)  already existing list, only info-VAX !).o    Check:tI http://www.geocities.com/ResearchTriangle/Facility/1603/freevms/index.htms http://www.free-vms.org/. http://home.earthlink.net/~djesys/vms/freevms/' http://encompasserve.org/~malmberg/DCL/   H >+(http://freshmeat.net/projects/freevms). So I search volunteers and=20J >+informations about this system. I have used OpenVMS on several VAXes,=20I >+but a long time ago... I have created a mailing list freevms@ml.free.fr 0 >+(French/English). All volunteers are welcome !  .  At start may be interesting what you will do.G  You (no, not you - the mentioned page) claim starting from kernel... !0A  Sure, may be you will start separate work - but with the Itaniumh4 project... you probably cannot find the volunteers !    Regards - Gotfryd   --=20 L =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=L =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=9 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DrF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - =09=09THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=3DME . $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=L =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=9 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D|   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:24:26 GMTt2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: FreeVMS/ Message-ID: <uGiw7.94$RL6.327@news.cpqcorp.net>B  c In article <3BC17A02.7010401@cnam.fr>, BERTRAND =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Jo=EBl?= <bertrand@cnam.fr> writes:l  1 :	I try to relaunch an old project named FreeVMS DE :(http://freshmeat.net/projects/freevms). So I search volunteers and  G :informations about this system. I have used OpenVMS on several VAXes, mH :but a long time ago... I have created a mailing list freevms@ml.free.fr/ :(French/English). All volunteers are welcome !6  K   Please also see the OpenVMS hobbyist program, details in the OpenVMS FAQ r5   and available at http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/.-  I   Also see the Charon-VAX emulator package, which has occasionally had a aI   hobbyist version -- there are at least two other VAX emulator projects  G   underway at present, as well.  (These would permit use of OpenVMS VAX7   on IA-32 gear.)-  H   The hobbyist program is expected to be extended to IA-64 gear, for useK   when the (presently under development) OpenVMS port to the Intel Itanium h%   Processor Family becomes available..  F   I will add the URL and the email list links to the next OpenVMS FAQ.    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 17:16:11 GMT ! From: "ClaudeVMS" <unix@dev.null>r Subject: Re: FreeVMS@ Message-ID: <vblw7.48026$w62.30030310@news1.denver1.co.home.com>  L Since we're on the subject of FreeVMS. Please look at http://www.freevms.orgC I am tracking many different ways to "Free" VMS and I will add youre freshmeat site8 to it as well. Let me know if my site can be of service.   Thanks,     	 ClaudeVMSw    ? "Hoff Hoffman" <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote in messagei) news:uGiw7.94$RL6.327@news.cpqcorp.net...-J > In article <3BC17A02.7010401@cnam.fr>, BERTRAND =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Jo=EBl?= <bertrand@cnam.fr> writes: >-2 > : I try to relaunch an old project named FreeVMSF > :(http://freshmeat.net/projects/freevms). So I search volunteers andH > :informations about this system. I have used OpenVMS on several VAXes,J > :but a long time ago... I have created a mailing list freevms@ml.free.fr1 > :(French/English). All volunteers are welcome !r >3L >   Please also see the OpenVMS hobbyist program, details in the OpenVMS FAQ7 >   and available at http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/.  > J >   Also see the Charon-VAX emulator package, which has occasionally had aJ >   hobbyist version -- there are at least two other VAX emulator projectsI >   underway at present, as well.  (These would permit use of OpenVMS VAX  >   on IA-32 gear.)- >-J >   The hobbyist program is expected to be extended to IA-64 gear, for useL >   when the (presently under development) OpenVMS port to the Intel Itanium' >   Processor Family becomes available.Q >7H >   I will add the URL and the email list links to the next OpenVMS FAQ. >o >>( >  ---------------------------- #include' <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------lL >       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com, >  --------------------------- pure personal# opinion ---------------------------l1 >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineeringo hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 14:55:33 +0200> From: "Jean-Franois Marchal" <jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr>C Subject: how to right-justify a string within a DCL f$fao directive . Message-ID: <9ps7ck$eem$1@reader1.imaginet.fr>   Bonjour  tous  @ I'm looking for thesimplest expression to right-justify a string5 which is part of a more complex output done by f$fao.i  # Any suggestion will be appreciated.-   Cordialement Jean-Franois Marchal:   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 14:18:14 +01007 From: "POWERS, John" <John.POWERS@reading.sema.slb.com>UG Subject: RE: how to right-justify a string within a DCL f$fao directiveu= Message-ID: <D30A62ABC710D211AEE100A0C9D615EE0152908C@REAES2>o   Been there done that9 e.g. to right justify "str" into a field of length "size"    $ size=3D20. $ str =3D "abcd"> $ rt_jus=3Df$fao("!#* !#AS",size-f$LEN(str),f$LEN(string),str) $ sh sym rt_juso#   RT_JUS =3D "                abcd"r    
 HTH - John   >-----Original Message-----nF >From: Jean-Fran=E7ois Marchal [mailto:jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr] >Sent: 08 October 2001 13:56 >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComD >Subject: how to right-justify a string within a DCL f$fao directive >s >  >Bonjour =E0 tous  >pA >I'm looking for thesimplest expression to right-justify a stringh6 >which is part of a more complex output done by f$fao. > $ >Any suggestion will be appreciated. > 
 >Cordialement  >Jean-Fran=E7ois Marchal >m  J -New sig file under construction following the change of Company name fromA Sema to SchlumbergerSema (I promise it won't mention my dog Meg).p   - Cheers, John    K ___________________________________________________________________________8D This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the=20J individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are=20G solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of=20n SchlumbergerSema.=20L If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received th= isK email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or=20f- copying of this email is strictly prohibited.b  L If you have received this email in error please notify the SchlumbergerSema=/  Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. K ___________________________________________________________________________c   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 15:17:36 +0200: From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>  Subject: Re: Itanium and OpenVMSJ Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0110081505090.32173-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>  # On Sat, 6 Oct 2001, Alphaman wrote:> [...]eK >+Well, fortunately for the virus writers, it appears that all IA64 systemso) >+REQUIRE a FAT32 partition to boot from.t  8  IMHO the "FAT32 boot" point is a little simplification.  But regardless that...:  H >+                                      This should make it real easy toL >+write a cross-OS virus/trojan/malware progy that will now be able to claimK >+OpenVMS as a victim, too.  This should make MBR viruses look like toys...m  :  *If* you allow a multi-OS boot on specific computer, then8 the protection on all data on all permanently powered :)5 disks are depends of the security of the *lowest* (inv5 security) OS, *regardless* of the filesystem. Here isd3 no real problem with fiddling with b.ex. ODS-2 bootY) (and other) images from Windows or DOS :)c=  With the other side - if the bootpartition will be availablet; on *all* Itanium OSes only with privilege like VOLPROT theni+ the fact that it will be FAT means nothing. @  But, really agree, will not suspect MS knows what VOLPROT is ;>   [...]-J >+Hey, Sweep will finally be able to include VMS viruses in the list alongI >+with Windows, UNIX, DOS, Novel, Palm, and all the rest!  VMS will truly- >+become an equal... *sigh*n   >+Aaron     Regards - Gotfryd   -- #E =====================================================================tF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=ME . $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================S   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:37:20 -04005 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com>s  Subject: Re: Itanium and OpenVMS0 Message-ID: <TCkw7.100$RL6.640@news.cpqcorp.net>  F Uh.  The partition is only used by EFI, and only used for booting.  NoI general runtime access will be allowed except though utilities running onnH either EFI or VMS to copy/delete files on it.  You won't see any genericC FAT32 ACP (at least right now) allowing general access to the FAT32k
 partition.  # No security problem that I can see.r   Alphaman wrote in message ...t9 >Bob Koehler <koehler@encompasserve.org> wrote in messagew. >news:fpLh6lzS+hv+@eisner.encompasserve.org... >:G >>    I could go on and on, but there's a hell of a lot more to sharing:( >>    code than just the same processor. >-J >Well, fortunately for the virus writers, it appears that all IA64 systemsJ >REQUIRE a FAT32 partition to boot from.  This should make it real easy toK >write a cross-OS virus/trojan/malware progy that will now be able to claimeJ >OpenVMS as a victim, too.  This should make MBR viruses look like toys... >a >See slide #5 at >aL >http://www.openvms.compaq.com/presentations/cets2001/cets2001-1884_vmsipf.h t  >m > I >Hey, Sweep will finally be able to include VMS viruses in the list alongsH >with Windows, UNIX, DOS, Novel, Palm, and all the rest!  VMS will truly >become an equal... *sigh* >l >Aaron >--,? >Aaron Sakovich  http://members.home.net/sakovich/alphaman.html0 >c3 >"I fear all we have done is waken a sleeping giantr, >     and fill him with a terrible resolve."( >      Japanese Admiral Isoruku Yamamoto( >      after the bombing of Pearl Harbor >h= >Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.  >b >    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 17:09:32 GMT . From: "Alphaman" <alphaman64@nixspam-home.com>  Subject: Re: Itanium and OpenVMS= Message-ID: <g5lw7.40868$Pr1.12370488@news1.rdc1.tn.home.com>   > Fred Kleinsorge <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> wrote in message* news:TCkw7.100$RL6.640@news.cpqcorp.net...H > Uh.  The partition is only used by EFI, and only used for booting.  NoK > general runtime access will be allowed except though utilities running oneJ > either EFI or VMS to copy/delete files on it.  You won't see any genericE > FAT32 ACP (at least right now) allowing general access to the FAT32, > partition. > % > No security problem that I can see.   
 Fred et. al.,n  / Then consider the following simplistic example:   A  - VMS system runs into problems due to firmware/hardware issues.t  H  - Person diagnosing system brings system up with PC diagnostic software infected with malware.  1  - FAT32 partition becomes infected during diags.0  .  - VMS system boots after infectious "repair".  G  - Malware now memory resident during VMS boot continues to thrive even-I without access to the FAT32 partition, either causing runtime corruption,sE crashing, or, in the worst case, an OS independent infection of a VMSw system.s      J This is just one possible scenario where this could be a problem, and thisK isn't even a dual-boot system (in the traditional multi-hard-disk/partitioneK sense).  I'm sure with a little more thought, the malware authors will haveeL many more ways to wreak havoc.  I certainly hope that the VMS engineers takeL these far-out, highly unlikely, twisted thoughts into consideration, becauseA there certainly will be crackers and skiddies out there who will.R  H Having a FAT partition on a commodity processor platform screams "infect me!!!!"n   Sincerely and respectfully,8 Aarone --> Aaron Sakovich  http://members.home.net/sakovich/alphaman.html  2 "I fear all we have done is waken a sleeping giant+      and fill him with a terrible resolve."c'       Japanese Admiral Isoruku Yamamotoh'       after the bombing of Pearl Harborn  < Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 09:14:27 -0400  From: norm.raphael@jamesbury.comY Subject: Re: Meta, giga, yadda yadda yadda (was Re: Comments on Compaq        presentatioP4 Message-ID: <C2256ADF.0048B574.00@jklh21.valmet.com>  > --0__=nSdDMkVxx8RTXKJxJsBHIHNJH0RK6PsaR9dDXFx0usZWdKIiHuKUuWzq, Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inlinep+ Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printables         Thanks, Jim.  H The base-10 prefix list is here and seems not to be defined past 24-pow= ers.H                                                                        =         =20 H  http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/prefixes.html                       =         =20oH                                                                        =         =20nH                                                                        =         =20nH           SI prefixes                                                  =         =20-H                                                                        =         =20cH  Factor  Name    Symbol                                                =         =20.H                                                                        =         =20$H  10^24   yotta   Y                                                     =         =20 H  10^21   zetta   Z                                                     =         =20 H  10^18   exa     E                                                     =         =20tH  10^15   peta    P                                                     =         =20 H  10^12   tera    T                                                     =         =20fH  10^9    giga    G                                                     =         =20rH  10^6    mega    M                                                     =         =20mH  10^3    kilo    k                                                     =         =20aH  10^2    hecto   h                                                     =         =20sH  10^1    deka    da                                                    =         =203H                                                                        =         =20SH  10^-1   deci    d                                                     =         =20 H  10^-2   centi   c                                                     =         =20 H  10^-3   milli   m                                                     =         =20gH  10^-6   micro   =B5 [or u, if no greek symbol available -NFR]         =
           =20uH  10^-9   nano    n                                                     =         =20-H  10^-12  pico    p                                                     =         =20sH  10^-15  femto   f                                                     =         =205H  10^-18  atto    a                                                     =         =20BH  10^-21  zepto   z                                                     =         =20=H  10^-24  yocto   y                                                     =         =20 H                                                                        =         =20s              . jbecker@ui.urban.org on 10/06/2001 01:56:13 AM  & Please respond to jbecker@ui.urban.org   To:   Info-VAX@mvb.saic.comc cc:nH Subject:  Re: Meta, giga, yadda yadda yadda (was Re: Comments on Compaq=  /       presentation) presentation) presentation)a     =o  > --0__=nSdDMkVxx8RTXKJxJsBHIHNJH0RK6PsaR9dDXFx0usZWdKIiHuKUuWzq* Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inlinee    E > Subject:  Meta, giga, yadda yadda yadda (was Re: Comments on Compaqa >       presentation)r  * And then there's this batch of prefixes...- http://physics.nist.gov/cuu/Units/binary.html    --
 Jim Becker+ The Urban Institute (http://www.urban.org/)r' Encompass (http://www.encompassus.org/) . ESILUG (http://encompasserve.org/lugs/esilug/)          @ --0__=nSdDMkVxx8RTXKJxJsBHIHNJH0RK6PsaR9dDXFx0usZWdKIiHuKUuWzq--   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:19:05 GMT32 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman): Subject: Re: My system will not boot properly 6.2 on 3100./ Message-ID: <tBiw7.92$RL6.354@news.cpqcorp.net>E  S In article <3BBF68EC.CCD0C295@america.net>, Paul Bailey <paulb@america.net> writes:T  * :During the boot procedure it stops during :z$ :executing site specific proceedures    I   Your site-specific startup procedure appears to contain a "bug".   The =H   DCL code in the site-specific startup is -- you guessed it -- entirelyF   site-specific, so we really can't even guess at what might be wrong.G   (If I were to hazard a wild guess, somebody tried to change the node  H   name, and you're hanging on a queue-related command.  See the OpenVMS E   FAQ for the steps that can be necessary when changing a node name.)?  E   The following documentation will provide you with some idea of the eK   options -- including the verification (display) of the commands executed uD   in the site-specific startup, and the use of an alternate startup:  M http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/73final/6017/6017pro_009.html#control_startl  /   The site-specific startup procedure is named:c  !     sys$startup:systartup_vms.comM  G   The steps will allow you to figure out what command(s) are hanging in/K   the site-specific startup procedure.  I've most commonly seen folks hang hK   on the queue commands when when the cluster configuration changes, but ith/   can easily be something completely different.,  K   There are twenty+ "3100" system variants and even two processor families  I   that use the 3100 designation (VAX and MIPS, though use of OpenVMS VAX tJ   is assumed here), and some of the VAXstation 3100 and MicroVAX 3100 and J   VAXserver 3100 series models specific hardware limits on the system diskH   capacity -- see the OpenVMS FAQ for details.  Put another way, please J   provide the specific model; please do not abbreviate.  (For some of the G   details that can be required when posting a question, please see the -,   introductory sections of the OpenVMS FAQ.)      N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 17:13:27 GMTo+ From: "Andy Proctor" <aproctor@hotmail.com>i Subject: net$ignore_decnet5 Message-ID: <1002560604.512613@ananke.eclipse.net.uk>e  I This may be simple/dumb but i'm working on a customers system and need toeG bring Decnet up. I'm more familiar with tcpip and have got that workingcK great, however it seems that decnet is not running due to the fact that the I logical net$ignore_decnet is being set at boot time. I can manually startpJ decnet by setting this logical false and $start/net decnet. My question isL this, where does this logical get set up please? I cannot seem to find where it is defined.F Thanks for the help, it is probably a very simple solution to a simple3 problem, but as i say, im more familiar with tcpip.o   Alpha PWS433au VMS 7.1.1h2Q Decnet plusi  ) Any more info needed?, please let me know    cheers   Andy   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:04:27 -04002 From: "Sue Skonetski" <susan.skonetski@compaq.com>+ Subject: Netcraft is now able to detect VMS / Message-ID: <k7kw7.99$RL6.408@news.cpqcorp.net>I   Folks, check outE www.http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.openvms.compaq.com.e  C Netcraft is now able to detect OpenVMS and Compaq Secure Web ServerIH (currently based upon Apache 1.3.14). In roughly a month, after the nextH Netcraft web server survey is run, we will have a list of sites that are running OpenVMS and CSWS.e   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 17:16:04 GMTe. From: "Alphaman" <alphaman64@nixspam-home.com>/ Subject: Re: Netcraft is now able to detect VMSn= Message-ID: <oblw7.40920$Pr1.12373771@news1.rdc1.tn.home.com>   I Superb!  I just noticed that myself, having run it against my home system-I this past weekend (which used to be logged by them as NT4/IIS, and now ish3 OpenVMS/Apache! 8^)  Another successful migration!)   G Anyone got any ideas on how to influence the "uptime" statistics?  As IeL understand, the number is deduced from the ISN in the IP packet from the webH server in question, which is specious at best, IMHO.  The current recordK holders have barely got 1000 days of uptime.  Heck, I've got over 100 on myF  home VMS box with a minimal UPS!   Aaron- --> Aaron Sakovich  http://members.home.net/sakovich/alphaman.html  2 "I fear all we have done is waken a sleeping giant+      and fill him with a terrible resolve." '       Japanese Admiral Isoruku YamamotoA'       after the bombing of Pearl Harbort  < Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.      ; Sue Skonetski <susan.skonetski@compaq.com> wrote in message ) news:k7kw7.99$RL6.408@news.cpqcorp.net...  > Folks, check outG > www.http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.openvms.compaq.com.e >-E > Netcraft is now able to detect OpenVMS and Compaq Secure Web ServerfJ > (currently based upon Apache 1.3.14). In roughly a month, after the nextJ > Netcraft web server survey is run, we will have a list of sites that are > running OpenVMS and CSWS.t   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 13:16:07 GMTe% From: "Ram Guy" <ramguy9@hotmail.com>y Subject: New to VMSp( Message-ID: <rGhw7.12617$f5.735517@news>  	 Hi there,l  K I am trying to install Open VMS (Hobbyist) on a Digital Alpha AXP PCI 33. IrL can't get the system to boot from the CD. Looks like I am not setting up the< boot options properly and I am new to this hardware and VMS.  H Is there a step by step guide to setup and run VMS on such systems? I amL trying to find the reuired information from Open VMS Faqs but have not found
 anything yet.      Thanks!y   Ramo   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:31:25 -0400a- From: Michael Austin <miaustin@bellsouth.net>  Subject: Re: New to VMSe- Message-ID: <3BC1AAAC.D2C8BD96@bellsouth.net>d   You should do:  
 >>>show dev d K >>>b dkxxx              !!!where xxx is the device name for the CD (mine isd dka600)i >>>e   Ram Guy wrote:   > Hi there,e >mM > I am trying to install Open VMS (Hobbyist) on a Digital Alpha AXP PCI 33. I_N > can't get the system to boot from the CD. Looks like I am not setting up the> > boot options properly and I am new to this hardware and VMS. >,J > Is there a step by step guide to setup and run VMS on such systems? I amN > trying to find the reuired information from Open VMS Faqs but have not found > anything yet.h >n	 > Thanks!. >e > Raml   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 14:06:07 GMT+% From: "Ram Guy" <ramguy9@hotmail.com>t Subject: Re: New to VMS"( Message-ID: <jpiw7.12620$f5.736350@news>  I I tried to do this before. I feel I am not in the right place to run thise7 command. I get a message saying it can't find the file.   K The system does not give an option to install VMS at all. The system has anmJ option to install Windows NT. I am definitely missing something. How can IJ access the BIOS on these systems? Is there any BIOS settings to switch the system to VMS?  E Is there a Hardware guide / User manual for Alpha AXPPCI 33 system? I H downloaded some of the documents and they are  in .gz format. Can I open them on a windows system?o   Thanks,r   Ramc    : "Michael Austin" <miaustin@bellsouth.net> wrote in message' news:3BC1AAAC.D2C8BD96@bellsouth.net...g > You should do: >  > >>>show dev dwJ > >>>b dkxxx              !!!where xxx is the device name for the CD (mine is	 > dka600)> > >>>. >  > Ram Guy wrote: >a
 > > Hi there,i > >eI > > I am trying to install Open VMS (Hobbyist) on a Digital Alpha AXP PCI  33. I L > > can't get the system to boot from the CD. Looks like I am not setting up ther@ > > boot options properly and I am new to this hardware and VMS. > >=L > > Is there a step by step guide to setup and run VMS on such systems? I amJ > > trying to find the reuired information from Open VMS Faqs but have not found= > > anything yet.= > >= > > Thanks!= > >= > > Ram= >= >=   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 16:23:23 +0200 (CEST)m: From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl> Subject: Re: New to VMS J Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0110081614370.32173-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>  " On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Ram Guy wrote: [...]oM >+The system does not give an option to install VMS at all. The system has aniL >+option to install Windows NT. I am definitely missing something. How can I# >+access the BIOS on these systems?e  
  Go to FAQ :) <  Alpha has no precise equivalent of BIOS, but the code where! is equivalent is named "console".b'  And Alpha has *two* separate consoles:e9 - graphics/semigraphics one, for Windows usage, named ARC.6 - command line one, for un*x and VMS usage, named SRM.  5  Depending of the size of your console Flash-ROM yourc5 motherboard can be able have *both* loaded - and thent4 you have a option "boot differrent operating system"9 (or something) somewhere (requires POWER OFF, be aware !)e4  *Or* you can have too less F-ROM and you can change1 the console from ARC to SRM (or vice versa) doings/ upgrade :) - within the upgrade process your bee& asked where console you will select :)  + >+ Is there any BIOS settings to switch them >+system to VMS?  #  Umh, is - os_type=VMS, go to FAQ !n  G >+Is there a Hardware guide / User manual for Alpha AXPPCI 33 system? I,J >+downloaded some of the documents and they are  in .gz format. Can I open >+them on a windows system?/  8  Yes. You may use any "multipacker", personally I prefer9 Windows Commander (www.ghisler.com) where is file managerw8 with packing utility included. Althought have registered= version (shareware) the unregistered is also fully functionalt
 (nagware).    Regards - Gotfryd   -- oE ===================================================================== F $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEO. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================    ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 11:15:18 -04002 From: "Sue Skonetski" <susan.skonetski@compaq.com>0 Subject: Re: Oracle/OpenVMS Itanium quote on web/ Message-ID: <fpjw7.97$RL6.596@news.cpqcorp.net>I   JF,   D I think that the devil has plenty of advocates, we need VMS ones ;')   suei: "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote in message& news:3BBE39CB.253832D5@videotron.ca... > Larry Kilgallen wrote:H > > It has not been committed _anywhere_ before now, although there have8 > > been many requests to Oracle from the customer base. >gE > Pardon the devil's advocate, but I didn't see any commitment in thetK > announcement, just an announcement that Oracle was working with Compaq tosJ > study the project. The way I read it, they are doing a feasability study at > this point in time.i >e* > Note that this is still a positive news. >tJ > Much has been said that user level applications will just recompile fine onI > the new platform. For a middleware such as Oracle, is there any idea ofo whatH > percentage of Oracle would just recompile on the new platform and what> > percentage would need to be changed in any significant way ?   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 07:23:14 -04003 From: "Brad McCusker" <Brad.McCuskerSP@Mcompaq.com>a& Subject: Re: Pathworks Licensing Query/ Message-ID: <36gw7.77$RL6.334@news.cpqcorp.net>e  6 "Rob Buxton" <rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz> wrote in message+ news:3bc0e9b0.618678312@news.wcc.govt.nz...c	 > Hi All,o >sC > We're running Pathworks 6.0D on VAX under VMS 7.2 in Server Based  > Licensing mode.p >m+ > We have a 50U ser license PWLMXXXCA07.02.f > ) > Is this license only valid for VMS 7.2? H > Should I get an upgrade to this license as part of the annual support? >Y= That license will work with AS V7.2, PW V6.0* and PW V5.0E/F.t/ So, your V6.0D server will accept that license..  C If you are under contract to get license upgrade (aka "right to new4( version"), then you should have recievedH PWLMXXXCA07.03 licenses to replace the PWLMXXXCA07.02 licenses you have.  K PWLMXXXCA07.03 licenses are required for AS V7.3 and PW V6.1, and will workD7 with all other versions of AS, PW V6.*, and PW V5.0E/F.t   hthe   -Brada     --( The opinions expressed herein are my own' and do not reflect those of my employern or anyone else.h   Brad   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:52:57 -04005 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> F Subject: Re: PC164, OVMS7.2, isacfg and graphic cards (MACH64, S3 968)0 Message-ID: <yRkw7.103$RL6.628@news.cpqcorp.net>  J The S3 Trio64 is pretty generic.  Most off the shelf cards will work.  The PCI ID used is the genericK ID, and does not use the full 64-bit version that would include things liken the card vendor ID.e    < Michael Joosten wrote in message <3BBF7EAA.6113@c-lab.de>... >Island Computers wrote: >>H >> You know - for a few bucks you can buy a cheap S3Trio64 1MB PCI Video Card! >> which is enough for DECwindows  >>  >> It's a hell of a lot easier ! >> >> --  >> David Turner  > I >That's probably the way I'll go. As the SYS$CONFIG.DAT uses explicit PCI D >ids, I probably have to look exactly for a specific S3Trio64 brand,B >preferably with 2MB, haven't I? What model did you bundle in your >offers? >^H >Still, I'd like to know what problem this ISA table stuff is caused by. >  >Thanks, Michael >--P+ >Michael Joosten, SBS C-LAB, joost@c-lab.de + >Fuerstenallee 11, 33094 Paderborn, Germany - >Phone: +49 5251 606127, Fax: +49 5251 606065 9 >C-LAB is a cooperation of University Paderborn & SIEMENS    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2001 06:39:27 -0700 ( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) Subject: Re: Purveyor1= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0110080539.43a89d92@posting.google.com>   x "Airnews" <Kuff@Tessco.Com> wrote in message news:<713981D6627AEAE3.BA0724D90CE94486.60F52888B33960E2@lp.airnews.net>...J > Does anyone know the max post size under purveyor? I understand that theI > buffer comes in at 256 bytes per qio until the buffer is exhausted, but M > what's the max size of the message that can be passed by the mbox? If there J > is no size in the crembx service than I belive that the sysgen parameterJ > default mailbox max quota defmbxquo is used.... we're seeing an issue at > greater than 1024....=  B someone else had a similar question, and i don't believe that 1024@ can be exceeded ... one of the original purveyor developers told> me why several years ago but i forget why ... i can give you a? name of a company who has someone that can support purveyor ...== maybe he can help you with any issues ... he has helped us on 
 several dlls     Tel:    +64 4 917-6670 Fax:    +64 4 917-6671  E-mail: william.tonkin@sss.co.nz  - Visit us on the Web at:  http://www.sss.co.nz    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2001 06:22:10 -0700^( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) Subject: Re: Purveyor Users?= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0110080522.55b2152f@posting.google.com>   y "Hal Kuff" <kuff@tessco.com> wrote in message news:<B85EF75AA609678F.64924C63AABEB6D6.4283912880362539@lp.airnews.net>...@I > It appears the standard mailbox size for purveyor is 1024 bytes..... isaM > there a way to change the size of the mailbox that purveyor creates for theaM > user? I'm also looking for the documentation on the 'registry' entries thatsJ > one can create in the *.db file.... perhaps there is something in there?  G i don't believe the 1024 can be modified ... as for your other questiontE i can give you a company that recently helped us write a purveyor dllpE and they do have someone on staff that knows purveyor and would offere support ...a   Tel:    +64 4 917-6670 Fax:    +64 4 917-6671  E-mail: william.tonkin@sss.co.nz  - Visit us on the Web at:  http://www.sss.co.nz    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 16:49:21 +0200-= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>M" Subject: Re: Question on VMS Virus) Message-ID: <3BC1BCF0.4EA425C7@gtech.com>w  
 sfm wrote:G > I have never heard of a system running OpenVMS to obtain a virus, but H > recently we found that a NT Server which provides a software link to 1( > of our servers had many virus's on it. > A > Is there software I can obtain to check for virus's on my alphat) > servers or should I not worry about it.t > D > If so the companies name or homepage would be greatly appreciated.  ? Even though in theory it is possible to write a VMS virus, thensB we have never seen a real VMS virus (some smart DCL script to show! it can be done has been written).a  > And since there has been no VMS viruses so far, then there are  no anti-virus software for VMS !   Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2001 14:32:05 +0200l* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)) Subject: Re: Reset error account on Alpha * Message-ID: <3bc19cc5$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  d In article <hGpv7.46$RL6.139@news.cpqcorp.net>, hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) writes:% >$ ARCH_TYPE = F$GETSYI("ARCH_TYPE")  ' >$ IF ARCH_TYPE .EQ. 1  ! VAX type codec >$ Theny- >$   LINK ZDEC + SYS$SYSTEM:SYS.STB/SELECTIVEl >$ EndIf) >$ IF ARCH_TYPE .EQ. 2  ! Alpha type codei >$ Then  >$   LINK /SYSEXE ZDEC >$ EndIf, >$ IF ARCH_TYPE .EQ. 3  ! Itanium type code? >$ ThenmI >$   write sys$output "this code has not been checked on OpenVMS Itanium"  >$ EndIf  * $ IF ARCH_TYPE .EQ. 4  ! POWER type code ? $ ThenS $   write sys$output "OpenVMS on POWER Architecture is still wishful thinking only"X $ EndIf,   --  < Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888o< <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 12:48:45 +0100h( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>+ Subject: Re: Show Intrusion privilege queryf( Message-ID: <3BC1929D.E6F1CF4@127.0.0.1>   warren sander wrote:  J > In todays world I like the web based system better because less and less! > help desk folks know how to usem > a terminal interface.-  
 Sad but true.s  D We have a graduate in the "VMS department" and we're introducing him
 gradually.D (They go through 4 "department's" in a year before choosing a career path).  D Prior to us, he worked on the helpdesk, and among _all_ the problemsD [many, many platforms, OS's, clients], the only issues he dealt withF that came up on VMS systems (and not that often) were password resets.  C Isn't it great when you have a largely user-proof operating system?  -- a( Regards, Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciences nclews at csc dot comr   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 17:58:37 +0100 + From: "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org>e, Subject: Re: VAX 7000 hw support going away?' Message-ID: <3BC1DB3D.2F41843F@iee.org>o   "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:nL > Pretty much a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. Back whenL > Digital ceased production of VAX CPUs, Jesse Lipcon said that the firm hadM > "a warehouse full of processors." The stockpile may have been depleted more,E > rapidly than Digital expected because of slower-than-expected Alpha- > adoption.,  0 I cannot find it via deja right now, but a year / or two ago I recall an OpenVMS engineer postingn1 that all the chips had been used to build modules0- (and lamenting the fact that the mix had beent1 wrong: i.e. they had built too many VAX 4000 CPUs.- and too few VAX 7000 CPUs ... or vice versa).O  - So the stockpile was almost certainly modulesb and not chips.   Antonion   -- y   --------------- - Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.orgl   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:43:22 +0200-2 From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman@digital.com>. Subject: Re: Vax Basic converting WORD to LONG+ Message-ID: <3BC1753A.206B91FD@digital.com>t  ! From memories of a former life - 1 Been there, done that...  7 Definitely recommend solution #1. A pre-requisite is -  = You must be _sure_ you've documented _all_ instances of date  : fields in your files. Especially fields where in different: instances of records in the same file you remap a record -: so the same field could be a date or something completely  different...  9 Using DATE4$ you can get as far as DATE4$(8029365), whichi9 while still limiting is probably enough for the duration.e     ~Mike.  3 P.S. Please try not to use HTML in newsgroup posts.o     Randy Park wrote:S > < > I'm quite familiar with your situation.  There are several$ > possible soutions to your problem. > @ > 1.  Enlarge the 2 byte integers to 4 byte integers.  The DATE$< > function will accept 4 byte integers and therefore display@ > dates beyond 2002.  This solution requires you to convert your> > data files and rewrite the routine that converts an external > date into an integer.m > = > 2.  Use the sign bit.  No data file conversion needed.  You.A > replace the DATE$ function with your own function that convertsh< > the unsigned 2 byte integer into a 4 byte integer and then> > calls the DATE$ function.  Note that BASIC does not directly? > support unsigned integers.  This also means that your routinet< > that converts an external date into a 2 byte integer needs< > to be rewritten to use the sign bit.  This should give you& > another 32 years of date processing. > > > 3.  Use an entirely different date data type.  This involves: > data file conversions and rewriting data type conversion > routines.i > = > Solution two is probably the cheapest, but still leaves you = > with a restricted data format.  Note that the XENTIS report < > writer supports all the above date formats and can do file) > conversions of this nature very easily.s > 0 > Tim <tim@hookplastics.com.au> wrote in message9 > news:63fe8511.0110071528.2f38b022@posting.google.com...uG > > We have a problem with our Vax Basic Application that is, dates are-H > > stored as &#8216;WORD&#8217; datatype which means the largest number > > it can hold is 32,767. > >wF > > In VAX Basic, the date function DATE$, which we use throughout our3 > > entire application, works in the following way:e > > DATE$(int-exp) > > Syntax rules:eF > > 1. Int-exp can have up to six digits in the form yyyddd, where theA > > characters yyy specify the number of years since 1970 and the 0 > > characters ddd specify the day of that year.F > > 2. You must fill all three of the d positions with digits or zeros5 > > before you can fill the y positions. For example:dF > >  DATE$(121) returns the date 01-May-70, day 121 of the year 1970.G > >  DATE$(1201) returns the date 20-Jul-71, day 201 of the year 1971.nF > >  DATE$(12001) returns the date 01-Jan-82, day 1 of the year 1982.H > >  DATE$(10202) returns the date 21-Jul-80, day 202 of the year 1980.G > > (The above information about DATE$() comes from 4-50 Statements ando+ > > Functions, VAX Basic Reference Manual.)  > > Therefore&#8230;.mF > > DATE$(32365), 31-Dec-02 will be the last date our system currently > > allows you to enter!!l: > > We have to change all dates from &#8216;WORD&#8217; toD > > &#8216;LONG&#8217; and re-create all the data files with the new > > format.  > >eG > > Does anyone know of a quick way to do this, or any other solutions?    --  E ---------------------------------------------------------------------mE Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that.o? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il*tF Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------  -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----  Version: 3.1: GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$6 PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------p   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 09:58:28 -07002 From: "Randy Park" <rjpark@mindspring.com.nospaam>. Subject: Re: Vax Basic converting WORD to LONG3 Message-ID: <9psm1k$64e$1@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>e  < There are a couple more reasons why I recommend solution two: over solution one, although I think solution one and three< are better long term solutions.  With solution one, you have4 to modify all your programs and test them all before3 implementing it.  With solution two, you can do the1? modify/test/implement cycle one program at a time.  This allows ; you to get critical programs operating first, like the onest8 with a date horizon 15 months away.  If this problem was< presented a couple of years ago, I would probably agree that8 solution one was superior to solution two.  What governs? the choice is the nature of the application, cost to implement,d and time to implement.  
 Good Luck.  = Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman@digital.com> wrote in message % news:3BC1753A.206B91FD@digital.com...x" > From memories of a former life - > Been there, done that... >e8 > Definitely recommend solution #1. A pre-requisite is -> > You must be _sure_ you've documented _all_ instances of date< > fields in your files. Especially fields where in different< > instances of records in the same file you remap a record -; > so the same field could be a date or something completelyw > different... >r; > Using DATE4$ you can get as far as DATE4$(8029365), whichI; > while still limiting is probably enough for the duration.  >h >s > ~Mike. >S5 > P.S. Please try not to use HTML in newsgroup posts.n >  >  > Randy Park wrote:m > > > > > I'm quite familiar with your situation.  There are several& > > possible soutions to your problem. > >YB > > 1.  Enlarge the 2 byte integers to 4 byte integers.  The DATE$> > > function will accept 4 byte integers and therefore displayB > > dates beyond 2002.  This solution requires you to convert your@ > > data files and rewrite the routine that converts an external > > date into an integer.= > >=? > > 2.  Use the sign bit.  No data file conversion needed.  You"C > > replace the DATE$ function with your own function that convertsS> > > the unsigned 2 byte integer into a 4 byte integer and then@ > > calls the DATE$ function.  Note that BASIC does not directlyA > > support unsigned integers.  This also means that your routine:> > > that converts an external date into a 2 byte integer needs> > > to be rewritten to use the sign bit.  This should give you( > > another 32 years of date processing. > >h@ > > 3.  Use an entirely different date data type.  This involves< > > data file conversions and rewriting data type conversion
 > > routines.3 > >5? > > Solution two is probably the cheapest, but still leaves youb? > > with a restricted data format.  Note that the XENTIS reportn> > > writer supports all the above date formats and can do file+ > > conversions of this nature very easily.m > >t2 > > Tim <tim@hookplastics.com.au> wrote in message; > > news:63fe8511.0110071528.2f38b022@posting.google.com...wI > > > We have a problem with our Vax Basic Application that is, dates areiJ > > > stored as &#8216;WORD&#8217; datatype which means the largest number > > > it can hold is 32,767. > > > H > > > In VAX Basic, the date function DATE$, which we use throughout our5 > > > entire application, works in the following way:d > > > DATE$(int-exp) > > > Syntax rules:tH > > > 1. Int-exp can have up to six digits in the form yyyddd, where theC > > > characters yyy specify the number of years since 1970 and them2 > > > characters ddd specify the day of that year.H > > > 2. You must fill all three of the d positions with digits or zeros7 > > > before you can fill the y positions. For example:tH > > >  DATE$(121) returns the date 01-May-70, day 121 of the year 1970.I > > >  DATE$(1201) returns the date 20-Jul-71, day 201 of the year 1971.iH > > >  DATE$(12001) returns the date 01-Jan-82, day 1 of the year 1982.J > > >  DATE$(10202) returns the date 21-Jul-80, day 202 of the year 1980.I > > > (The above information about DATE$() comes from 4-50 Statements and.- > > > Functions, VAX Basic Reference Manual.)r > > > Therefore&#8230;.nH > > > DATE$(32365), 31-Dec-02 will be the last date our system currently > > > allows you to enter!!d< > > > We have to change all dates from &#8216;WORD&#8217; toF > > > &#8216;LONG&#8217; and re-create all the data files with the new
 > > > format.6 > > > I > > > Does anyone know of a quick way to do this, or any other solutions?e >  > --G > ---------------------------------------------------------------------oG > Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that.-A > Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il*eF > Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337D >   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"G > ---------------------------------------------------------------------s! > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----e > Version: 3.1< > GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$8 > PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@! > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 09:44:42 GMTu- From: "Richard L. Dyson" <rickdyson@home.com>h& Subject: VMS721_Mail ECO Patch Problem( Message-ID: <3BC17589.D680CF86@home.com>  M I just applied the above patch and after a reboot (for other reasons) I foundpJ that Sys$Library:MailShr.exe no longer had any World privs.  Thus, regular usersp could not use MAIL anymore.?  : Did anyone else experience this after applying this patch?   Regards, Rick   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:42:37 -04005 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com>l Subject: Re: VMS<->Tru640 Message-ID: <QHkw7.101$RL6.634@news.cpqcorp.net>  J xhost allows you to define which systems can access the screen.  You don't have to wild card it.   K xauth allows things like magic cookie to be used to restrict access only toj people with the rightsK node and the right cookie.  Beyond that are other things like Kerberos etc.@  I VMS does not support xauth today.  The COE release does for TCPIP.  Well,BI actually the Motif V1.2-6 release has it in it, if you know how to enablee< it.  It's kind-of limited, you have to hand generate cookies (no security extension).  2 DECnet can restrict by username (at least on VMS).  ( X11R6 (next year) will have xauth in it.      Bill Gunshannon wrote in message9 <20011006181244.G20985-100000@server2.cs.scranton.edu>...u& >On Sat, 6 Oct 2001, Hans Vlems wrote: >s? >> Not sure whether this will help you but on Linux the commande >> >>  xhost +t >> >> allows me to do all I want... >> >f >And anybody else as well!!p > ; >And then people blame Unix and X for the lack of security.e >u >bille >  >--pK >Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolveshE >bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.1 >University of Scranton   |1? >Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>t >/   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2001 12:51:20 -04005 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com>u Subject: Re: VMS<->Tru640 Message-ID: <0Qkw7.102$RL6.627@news.cpqcorp.net>  B The "problem" is that X11 had no defined security mechanism.  They "reserved" some optionalJ fields in a connection setup packet to pass some unspecified authorization information.  The initial2D mechanism was the MIT Magic Cookie, and xauth.  The only information available from a TCPIPJ connection is the IP address.  So a magic cookie is created and managed on both sides of therK connection - the client application needs to present this in the connectioni setup, and the server then? validates it.  Since then, a bunch of ad-hoc authentication ande# authorization things were added andpI implemented, including a security extension.  These allow for things likeu automatic cookie generation1H (instead of the original manual xauth operations, or the requirement for XDM).h  K So yeah, X11 security has always been marginal, and easily spoofed.  It was, not designed to be a secure connection.      Bill Gunshannon wrote in message9 <20011006181244.G20985-100000@server2.cs.scranton.edu>...D& >On Sat, 6 Oct 2001, Hans Vlems wrote: >t? >> Not sure whether this will help you but on Linux the commandv >> >>  xhost +e >> >> allows me to do all I want..p >> >  >And anybody else as well!!r >r; >And then people blame Unix and X for the lack of security.b >n >billc >o >--uK >Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves E >bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.  >University of Scranton   |r? >Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>  >r   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 17:46:30 GMTr From: paul@wren.cc.kux.edu Subject: VMSMail APIs?1 Message-ID: <3bc1e63f.18304210@news.cc.ukans.edu>-  < Where, in manuals, or on-line can one find the VMSMail APIs?   Thanks!h   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2001 11:09:40 +0200 * From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)) Subject: Re: [LYRIS] OpenVMS Patches List.* Message-ID: <3bc16d54$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  X In article <3BBF3A34.7FE19899@home.com>, "Richard L. Dyson" <rickdyson@home.com> writes: >Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote:DK >>And the VMS list was really (almost) silent during Sep (I was on vacation L >>the whole Aug) and so I got this feeling. Maybe I should collect the mails' >>just to check again before posting...i >> >>So, many thanks to all.t( >>Seems the problem was only my mind ;-) > G >	I would not agree.  The "New Patches" web page listed two patches fortN >v7.2-1 that I never got informed about.  MAIL and LAT.  There are several forL >v7.3 and others.  All dated past 10 Sep, yet I too have not gotten anything >from the mailing list.a > C >	Has anyone yet today (6 Oct) gotten a patch announcement from the@! >OpenVMS Patch list since 10 Sep?   F Today I received a mail from the security list again, but I still missK announcements for VMS73_AUDSRV and VMS73_LMF (and probably others no longerh& interesting for me like the VMS721...)   -- v< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888s< <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2001 11:39:32 +0200u- From: Jouk Jansen <joukj@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl> ) Subject: Re: [LYRIS] OpenVMS Patches List 1 Message-ID: <3BC19074.775BA6@hrem.stm.tudelft.nl>m   Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote: > H > Today I received a mail from the security list again, but I still missM > announcements for VMS73_AUDSRV and VMS73_LMF (and probably others no longer ( > interesting for me like the VMS721...)= Same holds for me -> Compaq, what is wrong with the list!!!!!-              Jouk    ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2001 14:02:00 +0200c* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)9 Subject: Re: [VMS V7.3 Alpha] my first crash since monthso* Message-ID: <3bc195b8$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  B In article <00A0329E.9115F7F4.3@decus.de>, zessin@decus.de writes:G >Lets see: shadowing does not work properly, there are network problems E >and I have to find out that the service 'tools' are even more awfulld+ >than people have told since a long time...s  C Yup, HBVS is one of the major differences between my crashed systemdG and the other ones. And, yes, HBVS seems also worse than with V7.2-1 !!nF I have now shadow merges at (almost ?) every reboot with V7.3 (and no,D I don't count the crash[es]). So, WBM doesn't seem to be bulletproof? (before someone asks, I do have the SHADOWING ECO kit applied).o  D I don't see network problems, so far. (Not more than previously  ;-)  I But I see tools problems, too. AMDS V7.3A on VAX V7.3 doesn't run (see my A other posting some weeks ago). And ECP V5.4A on Alpha V7.3 gives:   C $ MC SYSMAN IO CONNECT CPA0: /DRIVER=ecp$driver/NOADAPTER/LOG=(ALL):/ %SYSMAN-I-NODERR, error returned from node xxxx3 -PROCOM-W-ABORT, abort  B though the CPA0 device seems to exist (and maybe work) afterwards.  = >Keith Parris, you are right: "don't run V7.3 in production".  >Too bad I tried it anyway...d  A It seems 'good enough' for production here (after disabling XFC).h8 But 'good enough' is a term I normally see with M$ crap.M So, consider V7.2-2 for the next months before upgrading to V7.3 (with ECOs).    -- n< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888n< <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Oct 2001 06:11:48 -0700 + From: kor.rinkens@libertel.nl (Kor Rinkens)e9 Subject: Re: [VMS V7.3 Alpha] my first crash since monthsd= Message-ID: <6593af79.0110080511.58d36e78@posting.google.com>s  a axica@yahoo.com (Safir) wrote in message news:<e85d7983.0110050050.8cb49c6@posting.google.com>...i^ > eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) wrote in message news:<3bbcdf72$1@news.kapsch.co.at>...M > > I recently completed the OpenVMS upgrade to VMS V7.3 here and today I had  > > my first crash:  > > " > > Crashdump Summary Information:" > > ------------------------------. > > Crash Time:         4-OCT-2001 23:43:01.35H > > Bugcheck Type:     MCHECKPAL, Machine check while in PAL environment+ > > Node:              NS      (Standalone)s- > > CPU Type:          AlphaStation 200 4/166o > > VMS Version:       V7.3t% > > Current Process:   MX SMTP ServernA > > Current Image:     DSA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]LOGINOUT.EXE A > > Failing PC:        00000000.0000A3E3    V_IOC$NODE_DATA+002E3l( > > Failing PS:        00000000.00000800& > > Module:            <not available> > > Offset:            00000000f > > . > > Boot Time:         30-SEP-2001 21:17:48.00. > > System Uptime:               4 02:25:13.35 > > Crash/Primary CPU: 00/00 > > System/CPU Type:   0D02t > > Saved Processes:   46h+ > > Pagesize:          8 KByte (8192 bytes)t@ > > Physical Memory:   128 MByte (16384 PFNs, contiguous memory) > > " > > Crashdump Summary Information:" > > ------------------------------# > > Dumpfile Pagelets: 88550 blockss> > > Dump Flags:        olddump,writecomp,errlogcomp,dump_style6 > > Dump Type:         compressed,selective,shared_mem- > > EXE$GL_FLAGS:      poolpging,init,bugdumpy: > > Paging Files:      1 Pagefile and 1 Swapfile installed > > ...1 > > Q > > Does it indicate a hardware problem or is it one of the said problems relatedt6 > > to the new XFC (as SDA>SHOW CRASH also pretends) ? > > % > > Current Operating Stack (KERNEL): U > >                        00000000.7B08D200    FFFFFFFF.831C3360  CACHE$IOPOST+000201F > >                        00000000.7B08D208    00000000.811F5B80  PCBT > >                        00000000.7B08D210    FFFFFFFF.802F5F80  SYS$XFCACHE+1DF80A > >                        00000000.7B08D218    00000000.7B08D220aU > >                 SP =>  00000000.7B08D220    FFFFFFFF.831C33F8  CACHE$IOPOST+000B8MA > >                        00000000.7B08D228    00000000.7B08D262bA > >                        00000000.7B08D230    00000000.7B08D26E A > >                        00000000.7B08D238    00000000.7B08D26C6A > >                        00000000.7B08D240    00000000.7B08D266mA > >                        00000000.7B08D248    FFFFFFFF.81293650oT > >                        00000000.7B08D250    FFFFFFFF.000005B4  BUG$_XQPERR+00004Y > >                        00000000.7B08D258    FFFFFFFF.802F0EF8  CACHE$TRUNCATE_C+00188cQ > >                        00000000.7B08D260    FFFFFFFF.831C38E8  CACHE$TRUNCATE  > >  > >  > > TIA( >  > G > Without looking at the crash, please note that XFC should be disabledt > for the moment on VMS 7.3- > ( > Use the good old VIOC (VCC_FLAGS to 1) > hth-  N On vms 7.3 there are problems with snmp, you have to install tcp/ip v5.1 eco 2  M If you did enable the service snmp, your system may hang or crash on the snmp- serviceE   Regards Kor-   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.560 ************************