1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 09 Oct 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 562       Contents:* Re: Anyone found a use for LNM$SYSCLUSTER? Re: BACKUP trouble.... Re: Ben Rosen the real culprit?  bridgework from compaq Re: bridgework from compaq8 Re: Can I restore system disk shadow set without reboot?F Re: CETS2001 presentations posted (non-technical, Keynote and General)! Cheap Itanium Systems for OpenVMS % Re: Cheap Itanium Systems for OpenVMS % Re: Cheap Itanium Systems for OpenVMS % Re: Cheap Itanium Systems for OpenVMS  Creating a Larger Dump File 
 Re: CSWING Re: FreeVMS  Re: FreeVMS " Higher prices for Alpha processors& Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors& Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors& Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors& Re: Installing CXX V5.6 on VMS VAX 6.1P Is there a speed penalty if I use T_FLOAT instead of G_FLOAT in my Fortran9X, C P Re: Is there a speed penalty if I use T_FLOAT instead of G_FLOAT in my Fortran9XP Re: Is there a speed penalty if I use T_FLOAT instead of G_FLOAT in my Fortran9XP Re: Is there a speed penalty if I use T_FLOAT instead of G_FLOAT in myFortran9X, Re: Itanium and OpenVMS  Re: Itanium and OpenVMS  Re: Itanium and OpenVMS  Re: Itanium and OpenVMS  Re: Itanium and OpenVMS  Job: OpenVMS, Rdb, SQL, C P Re: Meta, giga, yadda yadda yadda (was Re: Comments on Compaq        presentatio  Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!  Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!  Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!  Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!  Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!  Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!  Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!! Re: net$ignore_decnet & Re: Netcraft is now able to detect VMS& Re: Netcraft is now able to detect VMS& Re: Netcraft is now able to detect VMS& Re: Netcraft is now able to detect VMS& Re: Netcraft is now able to detect VMS OpenVMS Backup:  7GB in 3:30 hs # Re: OpenVMS Backup:  7GB in 3:30 hs " Re: OpenVMS, Apache and hackers... PB with decnet copy * RE: PC LA70 driver (was: Re: LA-70 Driver) Re: Python on VMS  Re: Python on VMS P Re: Quert wrt NETACP on VMS 5.5-2 (specifically, but probably relates to NETACP/P Re: Quert wrt NETACP on VMS 5.5-2 (specifically, but probably relates to NETACP/ Re: Question on VMS Virus  RE: Question on VMS Virus  RE: Question on VMS Virus  Re: Really Unhackable...????" Re: Show Intrusion privilege query" Re: Show Intrusion privilege query Re: Strange privilege problems Re: Strange privilege problems Re: Strange privilege problems Unaltered DCL command line Re: Unaltered DCL command line Re: Unaltered DCL command line Re: Unaltered DCL command line Re: Unaltered DCL command line Virus in comp.os.vms...  Re: VMSMail APIs?  Re: VMSMail APIs?  VRC15-KA Info? Re: VRC15-KA Info?C Re: [OpenVMS] V7.2 VAX satellite doesn't find V7.3 Alpha bootserver C Re: [OpenVMS] V7.2 VAX satellite doesn't find V7.3 Alpha bootserver   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 13:10:36 GMT = From: lewis_first_word_only@lumina.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis) 3 Subject: Re: Anyone found a use for LNM$SYSCLUSTER? ( Message-ID: <9put0c$90j$1@top.mitre.org>   cochrane@encompasserve.org (Arthur Cochrane) writes in article <FpKIqu9LE8Ie@eisner.encompasserve.org> dated 25 Sep 2001 13:49:50 -0500:J >    Has anyone found a good use for the VMS 7.x cluster wide logical nameK >    table, LNM$SYSCLUSTER. It sounds like a good idea but how often do you I >    need to redefine a system wide logical. Also, when a system boots is K >    there some way to see if this is the first system to boot and needs to G >    define the cluster wide logicals or if not the first then skip the I >    definition of the cluster wide logicals? Or just define them anyway.   J I changed most of SYLOGICALS.COM to use LNM$SYSCLUSTER.  Now when I make aK change I only have to execute the thing on one node.  I consider that "good G use" since it saves me going into SYSMAN.  I'm not at all worried about L redundant definition by subsequently booting systems.  It's low-overhead and* still correct, so I don't bother checking.  H >    I wish there was a LNM_SYSTEM logical name table for system managerJ >    logicals names in the search list between LNM$GROUP and LNM$SYSTEM. I@ >    have done this myself but wish it was supported officially.  > Everybody's needs are a little different in that regard.  YourK configuration, which presumably includes changes to LNM$SYSTEM_DIRECTORY or F LNM$PROCESS_DIRECTORY, is officially supported; it's just not there by
 default.    I >    I also wish there was a VMS_COMMON logical in the SYS$SYSROOT search H >    list. This would be empty on a fresh install and the system managerH >    would use to create the necessary procedures to boot and manage theJ >    system. (Also, a SYS_MANAGER, SYS_SYSTEM, SYS_HELP, etc.) I have also; >    done this myself but wish it was supported officially.   K I think SITE_COMMON would be a better name for this directory.  If HP wants 7 to support it officially, it will need a $ in the name.   8 --Keith Lewis              klewiswont_eat_spam@mitre.org PGP key available.          > The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 03:27:28 -0700 ( From: catsoup57@hotmail.com (Chris Hale) Subject: Re: BACKUP trouble.... < Message-ID: <8155f86.0110090227.2ebbd01f@posting.google.com>   Hi,   8 Just a quick thanks for all your help, it did the trick!   Cheers.   
 Chris Hale  ` "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message news:<3BC1090C.2C0CADEB@fsi.net>... > "David J. Dachtera" wrote: > >  > > Chris Hale wrote:  > > > 
 > > > Hi all,  > > > L > > > Im trying to do something quite simple... well I thought it was simple
 > > > anyway!  > > > I > > > I have a directory structure below SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.CHRIS.HTTPD] = > > > which I want to move onto another node into DKC0:[WWW].  > > > A > > > So I set def into SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR.CHRIS.HTTPD], and do:  > > > , > > > $ backup/log [...]*.* [-]httpd.sav/sav > # > Sorry - ignore the previous post.  >  > Try: > ) > $ backup/log [*...]*.* [-]httpd.sav/sav  > 
 > ...instead.    ------------------------------    Date: 09 Oct 2001 23:47:07 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>( Subject: Re: Ben Rosen the real culprit?- Message-ID: <87d73wzuh0.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   ( peter@abbnm.com (Peter da Silva) writes:  1 > In article <trnl5tio3hfd43@corp.supernews.com>, ) > Greg Cagle <gregc@gregcagle.com> wrote:   7 > > "Peter da Silva" <peter@abbnm.com> wrote in message # > > news:9pggpq$msn@web.nmti.com...   E > > > I wasn't aware of that... there's no kernel module mechanism at  > > > all in HP/UX?     C > > Not as such; there's a thing called Dynamically Loadable Kernel B > > Modules that is just coming online but is nowhere near what is, > > available on other Unix implementations.  @ > Sounds like taking the Tru64 Mach/BSD kernel and whacking HPUX- > compatibility on top would be a win for HP.   B Gark... it is the 'on top' that gives HPUX a lot of it's evilness!A The HP kernel is not *too* bad of it self. A totally standard set ! of kernel calls would be nice. ;)      --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 15:47:45 +0200$ From: "Jakob Erber" <erberj@post.ch> Subject: bridgework from compaq  Message-ID: <3bc30002$1@hcwe67>    Hello,  H is there anybody, who is using the compaq bridgework product and want to share his/her experince?   best regards   Jakob Erber    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:07:30 -0000 - From: wspencer@ap.nospam.org (Warren Spencer) # Subject: Re: bridgework from compaq 7 Message-ID: <913577DB3warrenspencer1977@207.126.101.97>   : erberj@post.ch (Jakob Erber) wrote in <3bc30002$1@hcwe67>:   >Hello,  > I >is there anybody, who is using the compaq bridgework product and want to  >share his/her experince?  > 
 >best regards  >  >Jakob Erber >  >   I I got part way through a trial implementation using BridgeWorks in 2000,  L but was interrupted by a job change.  I had some initial hiccups related to K the tcpip version I was using (UCX 4.1), but other than that, it seemed an  H impressive product.  I hear from my former employer that they proceeded J with the implementation, and it's working fine, but I don't know how hard  they've stressed it.   ws   --     Warren Spencer' Senior Software Engineer (not a writer)  The Associated Press  L ** My employer does not necessarily agree with my statements - neither do I  **   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 15:35:12 GMT : From: lewiswont_eat_spam@lumina.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis)A Subject: Re: Can I restore system disk shadow set without reboot? ( Message-ID: <9pv5fg$bh0$1@top.mitre.org>   John Laird <john@laird-towers.freeserve.co.uk> writes in article <0i7rrtsljauid2r68dlbbg8nc7kqbiv4b9@4ax.com> dated Fri, 05 Oct 2001 12:53:07 +0100:1 >On Fri, 05 Oct 2001 13:28:06 +0200, Frank Heckel # ><Frank.Heckel@de.bosch.com> wrote:  > # >>Steve.Spires@yellgroup.com wrote:  >>> Q >>> Can I restore the system disk shadow set from this position without a reboot?  >>>  >>F >>Simply mount the second disk to the shadow set. Once you did this itH >>will be rememberd by the system, so the shadow set is complete after a> >>reboot without the mount statement in the startup procedure. > D >This is how someone built the shadowed system disk set in the firstH >place, Steve !  (Although I admit the manual is not exactly specific on >dealing with system disks.)  ; I don't think you guys read what he wrote carefully enough.   R >>> Unfortunately I was over-zealous and did the following; set SHADOW_SYS_DISK toQ >>> 0, and commented out the shadow set mount command from our startup mount disk E >>> procedure. SHADOW_SYS_DISK is dymanic, so that can be reset to 1.   E I seriously doubt that changing that parameter on the fly will affect I anything.  I wonder why they flag it as dynamic??  Even with a non-system H disk, you have to dismount it before you can mount it as a shadow set.    F The normal way a system disk shadow set is created is by booting, with% SHADOW_SYS_DISK set to 1 (or 4097).     " I think you will have to reboot.         -- Keith   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:25:21 GMT ' From: Colin Blake <colin@theblakes.com> O Subject: Re: CETS2001 presentations posted (non-technical, Keynote and General) - Message-ID: <3BC315F5.BC952AAD@theblakes.com>   J Maybe people should stop biting their tongues and install Mozilla instead.N Then not only will your tongue stop hurting, but as an added benefit you'll be able to view the slides too :-)    ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 06:21:29 -0700 (PDT). From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>* Subject: Cheap Itanium Systems for OpenVMS@ Message-ID: <20011009132129.25129.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com>  , Anyone is asking Compaq / HP if we will have cheap systems to run OpenVMS ?/ I am saying like those small Proliant/Netserver  servers.=20   4 Any idea of an Itanium Notebook with the possibility to run OpenVMS ?   Any idea ? Hey ?     Regards    FC=20    =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D L =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D  F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D   2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?L NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/mon= th. # http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 10:20:51 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> . Subject: Re: Cheap Itanium Systems for OpenVMS, Message-ID: <3BC307B4.FBCF73FA@videotron.ca>   Fabio Cardoso wrote: > . > Anyone is asking Compaq / HP if we will have  > cheap systems to run OpenVMS ?  L There won't be much demand for cheap systems running VMS. The customers thatM Compaq is willing to keep on VMS are the big guys with the wildfires etc etc.   + Compaq doesn't want small customers on VMS.   L While HP may not go through great lengths to prevent VMS from booting on lowL end Itaniums, it will be a while before affordable Itaniums become real. TheJ initial targets are for machines that have more than 8 CPUs, with the 8 orG less going to IA32. (as per Compaq presentation to customers last week)   M In other words: don't hold your breath. If HP makes it so, then great, but if @ they keep VMS in the "expensive" niche, then don't be surprised.   ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 07:25:09 -0700 (PDT). From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>. Subject: Re: Cheap Itanium Systems for OpenVMS@ Message-ID: <20011009142509.67991.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com>  + Depending og the cost of the small systems, / they can substitute the VAXes of some customers 6 not interested to pay for contracts for old machines -* when they can subst. the machines , etc...   Regards    FC=20 2 --- JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote: > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > >=200 > > Anyone is asking Compaq / HP if we will have" > > cheap systems to run OpenVMS ? >=206 > There won't be much demand for cheap systems running > VMS. The customers that 3 > Compaq is willing to keep on VMS are the big guys  > with the wildfires etc etc.  >=20- > Compaq doesn't want small customers on VMS.  >=206 > While HP may not go through great lengths to prevent > VMS from booting on low 4 > end Itaniums, it will be a while before affordable > Itaniums become real. The 6 > initial targets are for machines that have more than > 8 CPUs, with the 8 or 4 > less going to IA32. (as per Compaq presentation to > customers last week) >=205 > In other words: don't hold your breath. If HP makes  > it so, then great, but if 4 > they keep VMS in the "expensive" niche, then don't > be surprised.      =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D L =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D  F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D   2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?L NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/mon= th. # http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 10:36:30 -0700 < From: alphaman-nixspam@hsv.sungardtrust.com (Aaron Sakovich). Subject: Re: Cheap Itanium Systems for OpenVMS< Message-ID: <8af17fe1.0110090936.b81bd75@posting.google.com>  v Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message news:<20011009132129.25129.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com>.... > Anyone is asking Compaq / HP if we will have  > cheap systems to run OpenVMS ?1 > I am saying like those small Proliant/Netserver  > servers.   > 6 > Any idea of an Itanium Notebook with the possibility > to run OpenVMS ?  C Yes, I specifically asked Mark Gorham that question.  The answer is F "Compaq systems first and fully supported, 3rd party systems may work,A but won't receive the same level of support as a qualified Compaq C system.  Support on third party IPF systems will improve over time, F but we need to get the first generation running on something we know."'  (not an exact quote, but paraphrasing)   A That means that yes, you'll be able to buy a Dell laptop and load D OpenVMS on it.  Throw in your CSA developers kit for about 1/3rd theE price of an MSDN subscription and you'll have one helluva development  laptop!   8 It would behoove us all to ensure that Compaq knows that> shrink-wrapped commodity processor versions of VMS should have& shrink-wrapped commodity pricing, too.   Aaron    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 17:13:56 GMT  From: sfm1115@bjc.org (sfm) $ Subject: Creating a Larger Dump File1 Message-ID: <3bc32d8f.102889857@news.starnet.net>0  ? Hi all, I will try to be as specific as I can as to my problem:f  E I have an Alpha Server 2100 with 2 cpu's in it running OpenVMS 7.2-1.t  E I was trying to run an analyze/crash on the system but I kept getting  the same error:w  4 %SDA-E-NOTSAVED, PT Space not saved in the dump file  : I have a dump file in sys$system and it is  149608 blocks.  = I have tried to follow the instructions for letting my systemnD re-create its own dumpfile through autogen, but when I do this I get the following message:     Errorlog dumpfile calculations:  A         No errorlog dump file modifications would have been made. 3         Errorlog dumpfile will remain at 50 blocks.e  D I have avaliable on my system drive where the current dump file is a total of 2132352 blocks.  F I guess I need to manually calculate the new dump file but am confusedE with the calculation.  for example when I do a show ERRORLOGBUFFERS Ie get the following information.  > Parameter Name           Current    Default     Min.      Max.
 Unit  Dynamic @ --------------           -------    -------    -------   -------
 ----  -------nA ERRORLOGBUFFERS                 6          4         2         64  Buffers       B Is the number I use in the calculation the 6 or 64?  Same goes for ERLBUFFERPAGES.m  B Any help would be appreciated.  If I can provide more information,+ please let me know via the group or e-mail.s   Thanks,V Shawn!   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 13:48:49 GMT!/ From: Thomas Dickey <dickey@saltmine.radix.net>i Subject: Re: CSWINGe* Message-ID: <9puv81$k22$1@news1.Radix.Net>  - Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote:e< > John Macallister <J.Macallister1@physics.ox.ac.uk> writes:  G >> Anyone know if there's a version of CSWING which works under Linux? a   > Emacs. C-X d aka dired.p  @ while in the same general class, it's not what he was asking for% (CSWING displays things differently).r  D reminds me - does emacs' dired have a usable directory-tree browser?% CSWING has a simple one, for example.l  F (in a previous job there was a fellow who was attempting to write one,$ rather than use my directory editor,/ but his implementation was grossly inefficient)    -- u= Thomas E. Dickey <dickey@radix.net> <dickey@herndon4.his.com>e http://dickey.his.come ftp://dickey.his.com   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 14:04:53 GMT B From: bertrand@perceval.cnam.fr (BERTRAND =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=EBl?=) Subject: Re: FreeVMS6 Message-ID: <slrn9s6103.ild.bertrand@perceval.cnam.fr>    Le Mon, 08 Oct 2001 17:16:11 GMT$ ClaudeVMS <unix@dev.null> crivait :M >Since we're on the subject of FreeVMS. Please look at http://www.freevms.org-D >I am tracking many different ways to "Free" VMS and I will add your >freshmeat sitee9 >to it as well. Let me know if my site can be of service.   7 	Thank you. But the freshmeat address is false... I use-J freevms.free.fr but only with http, I can not use ftpd, so I'm looking for  a ftp server to put the sources.  	 	Regards,R   	JKB   --   ARCHI-FAUX ! [ :-) ]; -+- FB in: Guide du Cabaliste Usenet - Lexique illustr -+-c   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 14:09:06 GMTsB From: bertrand@perceval.cnam.fr (BERTRAND =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=EBl?=) Subject: Re: FreeVMS6 Message-ID: <slrn9s6180.ild.bertrand@perceval.cnam.fr>    Le Mon, 08 Oct 2001 17:16:11 GMT$ ClaudeVMS <unix@dev.null> crivait :M >Since we're on the subject of FreeVMS. Please look at http://www.freevms.orgsD >I am tracking many different ways to "Free" VMS and I will add your >freshmeat sitee9 >to it as well. Let me know if my site can be of service.f  C 	Another mistake ;-) The freevms@ml.free.fr has not been created by ? Gotfryd Smolik, but by Bertrand Jol (mailto: freevms@free.fr).   	 	Regards,e   	JKB   --  C L'homme ne possde qu'une vie parce qu'il veut bien s'en persuader.  -- Andr Citron   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 15:01:43 +0200) From: "Pio Baettig" <baettig@hotmail.com>d+ Subject: Higher prices for Alpha processors + Message-ID: <3bc2f4b4@siufuxsun02.unifr.ch>n   from: ' http://www.theinquirer.net/09100106.htmn  # Compaq bumps up coppa whoppa pricesL  ! "Insignificant at a system level"e& By Mike Magee, 09/10/2001 10:35:00 BSTI YOU WOULD THINK THAT now IBM has an answer to the Q Wildfire platform, itr4 would reduce rather than raise prices, wouldn't you?I No. In the new-style Compaq, the rule is to put the prices up - and whileoG they're at it, charge well over the odds for memory too. (Hi Kingston.) E The Q put prices of its GS 1001MHz CPU by $1,000 for the GS80 and thenL GS160/320. These, no doubt, are the coppa whoppas IBM is making for them and; it's hard to grasp exactly why the price has risen so much.SG However, the 731MHz CPU price stays the same. Q's justification for the ; price hike is that it is "insignificant at a system level".bH If it, sorry HP, is moving everything to INTC chips, it had better learnK that the CPU price is far from insignificant in Xeon and Itanic servers....mJ Q has actually lessened the price of its memory for DS boards by nearly 40J per cent, while the 1GB memory has dropped by a quarter. The reduction for% DS20E systems are around a fifth too.@I This makes the memory cheaper but still astonishingly expensive given the5 state of the DRAM industry.iB But, we suspect, this is also "insignificant at a system level".    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 14:19:17 GMTo4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>/ Subject: Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors = Message-ID: <FHDw7.99447$vq.19626399@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>m  4 "Pio Baettig" <baettig@hotmail.com> wrote in message% news:3bc2f4b4@siufuxsun02.unifr.ch...  > from:e) > http://www.theinquirer.net/09100106.htmY >R% > Compaq bumps up coppa whoppa priceso >o# > "Insignificant at a system level" ( > By Mike Magee, 09/10/2001 10:35:00 BSTK > YOU WOULD THINK THAT now IBM has an answer to the Q Wildfire platform, its6 > would reduce rather than raise prices, wouldn't you?K > No. In the new-style Compaq, the rule is to put the prices up - and while-I > they're at it, charge well over the odds for memory too. (Hi Kingston.)l  H Raising CPU prices is not the response I would make to the Sun UE15K andI IBM's Regatta if I was in charge of CPQ's strategic marketing activities.d  F The memory price cuts are nice, but raising CPU prices sends the wrong6 message. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:18:22 GMTi* From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>/ Subject: Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors C Message-ID: <2zEw7.667978$NK1.61218146@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>o  = Terry C. Shannon <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote in messageh7 news:FHDw7.99447$vq.19626399@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net...i   ...   J > Raising CPU prices is not the response I would make to the Sun UE15K andK > IBM's Regatta if I was in charge of CPQ's strategic marketing activities.P >aH > The memory price cuts are nice, but raising CPU prices sends the wrong8 > message. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!  I I suspect that Compaq understands that the past few months (on top of the9K past many years) have likely caused the exodus of those few remaining Alpha K customers who felt they had anywhere else to go.  So those left will put upa" with, and pay, virtually anything.  H Besides, it wouldn't do to have Alpha look attractive when compared withJ Itanic, would it?  Just imagine what EV7 prices will be like (assuming EV7I doesn't make McKinley look so bad - especially at the system level, wherelJ EV7's on-chip glue features should shine - that Compaq never releases it).   Can you say 'cash cow'??   - bill   ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:15:02 -0700 (PDT). From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>/ Subject: Re: Higher prices for Alpha processorsc@ Message-ID: <20011009161502.53494.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com>   The message is:a  / DONT BUY ALPHAS NOW - WAIT FOR ITANIUM SYSTEMS.    Looks like thisb     Regardss   FC=20o    2 --- "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote: >=206 > "Pio Baettig" <baettig@hotmail.com> wrote in message' > news:3bc2f4b4@siufuxsun02.unifr.ch...r	 > > from:n+ > > http://www.theinquirer.net/09100106.htm. > >a' > > Compaq bumps up coppa whoppa pricesc > >e% > > "Insignificant at a system level"t* > > By Mike Magee, 09/10/2001 10:35:00 BST5 > > YOU WOULD THINK THAT now IBM has an answer to the  > Q Wildfire platform, itd3 > > would reduce rather than raise prices, wouldn'tv > you?3 > > No. In the new-style Compaq, the rule is to putr > the prices up - and whileh0 > > they're at it, charge well over the odds for > memory too. (Hi Kingston.) >=205 > Raising CPU prices is not the response I would makea > to the Sun UE15K and5 > IBM's Regatta if I was in charge of CPQ's strategicA > marketing activities.n >=201 > The memory price cuts are nice, but raising CPUg > prices sends the wrong1 > message. But that's just my opinion, I could be. > wrong! >=20 >=20 >=20     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3DnL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D: F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil. fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D   2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?L NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/mon= th.e# http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1t   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 18:36:06 +0200a  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>/ Subject: Re: Installing CXX V5.6 on VMS VAX 6.1s+ Message-ID: <VA.00000474.07452024@sture.ch>m  E In article <d5440555.0109280242.d394fd5@posting.google.com>, Soterro   wrote: > Hello, > H > I have problems installing Compaq CXX V5.6 on a VMS VAX 6.1 machine. IC > used as reference "Compaq C++ installation guide for OpenVMS VAX"s > AA-PNAME-TE from > december 1999. y   [snip]  C >     All questions regarding the installation of DEC C++ have beentE >     asked.  The installation will now continue for 10 to 40 minutesaF >     depending on your CPU type and the installation options you have	 > chosen.i > 2 >     Providing CXX command support and HELP files > + >     Providing compiler and message imagesS >  >     Providing .h headers > @ > %VMSINSTAL-E-INSFAIL, The installation of CXX V5.6 has failed. > F > Enter the products to be processed from the next distribution volume > set. > 2 > ---------------------end------------------------ >oA As promised last week, I looked for and managed to find an Alpha tA installation log of CXX 5.6. Unfortunately it looks sufficiently  H different from your example that posting it is unlikely to help. Except  perhaps, that my log contains:  @ %VMSINSTAL-I-MOVEFILES, Files will now be moved to their target  directories...  I Are you still stuck with this problem? If so, I can only suggest a means  H of diagnosing the problem, and that is to run VMSINSTAL with OPTIONS D. H That will switch on verify and produce tons of output, so be sure to do H a SET HOST 0/LOG to capture the output. It should show you the cause of  the installation failure.2   ___n
 Paul Sture Switzerlandb   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 03:04:36 -0700e/ From: pdafniotis@my-deja.com (Petros Dafniotis)DY Subject: Is there a speed penalty if I use T_FLOAT instead of G_FLOAT in my Fortran9X, C C= Message-ID: <5cf242af.0110090204.426a2dc6@posting.google.com>p  C As subject says, I was wondering if there is a speed (or any other)=E penalty if I use IEEE floating instead of G_FLOAT in my Fortran9X and_ C programs.   D I understand from reading the online help that the only issue is theD /IEEE_MODE qualifier that if it is set to DENORM, speed is penalizedF quite a bit. I conclude that if I leave /IEEE_MODE alone, I should not! see speed or any other penalties.e  D Sorry for this basic question. I have never used anything other than% G_FLOAT for more than 12 years now...i  
 Kind regards,  Petros ---i Petros Dafniotis pdafniotis@my-deja.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:24:24 GMTe2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)Y Subject: Re: Is there a speed penalty if I use T_FLOAT instead of G_FLOAT in my Fortran9X 0 Message-ID: <IEEw7.159$RL6.770@news.cpqcorp.net>  o In article <5cf242af.0110090204.426a2dc6@posting.google.com>, pdafniotis@my-deja.com (Petros Dafniotis) writes:eD :As subject says, I was wondering if there is a speed (or any other)F :penalty if I use IEEE floating instead of G_FLOAT in my Fortran9X and :C programs.  L   I'd tend to use IEEE T_Float, if for no other reason than it is available K   directly in native hardware across both Alpha and Itanium -- if you want -L   to know the details of how Alpha processes VAX floating point, please see J   the available Alpha architecture reference documentation (with pointers    in the FAQ).    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 12:42:30 +0200a= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>0Y Subject: Re: Is there a speed penalty if I use T_FLOAT instead of G_FLOAT in my Fortran9Xp) Message-ID: <3BC2D496.34A4D35B@gtech.com>y   Petros Dafniotis wrote:cE > As subject says, I was wondering if there is a speed (or any other)hG > penalty if I use IEEE floating instead of G_FLOAT in my Fortran9X and 
 > C programs.n > F > I understand from reading the online help that the only issue is theF > /IEEE_MODE qualifier that if it is set to DENORM, speed is penalizedH > quite a bit. I conclude that if I leave /IEEE_MODE alone, I should not# > see speed or any other penalties.o > F > Sorry for this basic question. I have never used anything other than' > G_FLOAT for more than 12 years now...t  ( Same size. Both implemented in hardware.  # The difference should be negliable.D   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 20:19:50 +0010m% From: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.auiY Subject: Re: Is there a speed penalty if I use T_FLOAT instead of G_FLOAT in myFortran9X,=5 Message-ID: <01K9B61VH60Y0064DG@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>_   Petros:   D >As subject says, I was wondering if there is a speed (or any other)F >penalty if I use IEEE floating instead of G_FLOAT in my Fortran9X and >C programs. >-E >I understand from reading the online help that the only issue is thevE >/IEEE_MODE qualifier that if it is set to DENORM, speed is penalizedfG >quite a bit. I conclude that if I leave /IEEE_MODE alone, I should not " >see speed or any other penalties. >bE >Sorry for this basic question. I have never used anything other thano& >G_FLOAT for more than 12 years now...  J Since some of our programs interface with Matlab, I asked this question a , while ago of Jeff Arnold, Compaq's CXML guy.  L To paraphrase (from memory), he told me that no there was no penalty unless ? we used extensive NaN testing, or similar.  I.e., the straight  L number-crunching would have little discernible time difference.  However, I 8 did not introduce the denorm keyword into my discussion.  M You could try asking this directly to Jeff, with the obvious Compaq address, nF as IEEE is the default CXML mode.  I don't think that Jeff reads here.   Regards, Paddy   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 13:36:06 +0200 (CEST)a: From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>  Subject: Re: Itanium and OpenVMSI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0110091323070.4205-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>h  ' On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, David Mathog wrote:t [...]k= >+This would  quickly check all the .exe/.olb/.com and other k3 >+configuration files, and scan the FAT32 section,.-4 >+  So long as that boots from its own, known clean,= >+FAT32 section on the CD, it should be able to do the trick.gD >+  And if patches are installed on the system the checksum database >+could be updated.e  8  Really. Be fair: how the database can be protected from* virus-like correction made like patch ? ;)5  Hm... read-only media (locked disquette ?) where canh- be fast and *comfortable* written required... >  And second point - where (when) the system software may check< the checksums ? Ok, may be something like LMF (the executing  code calls checking subroutine).   [...]n< >+  Hmm.  I guess that for a simple binary detection of thisN >+sort of intrusion all that's really needed is a tiny program on CD that justQ >+booted and generated 2 or 3 checksums for the entire system disk outside of theoK >+FAT32.  Write the results down.  Let the service guy do his thing, run itvN >+again.  If anything has changed you have to look harder, otherwise, go ahead >+and boot.l  :  Regardless the problem you mention - reading whole system< disk takes *time* ! Do you know what happens when production5 system is halted and you propose additional half hourt
 to wait ?? ;>   
 >+Regards, >+ >+David Mathog    Regards - Gotfryd   -- -E ===================================================================== F $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEi. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 07:17:07 -0700-< From: alphaman-nixspam@hsv.sungardtrust.com (Aaron Sakovich)  Subject: Re: Itanium and OpenVMS= Message-ID: <8af17fe1.0110090617.39804f1c@posting.google.com>$  \ John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> wrote in message news:<1011008211049.420D-100000@Ives.egh.com>... > M > Scenario 2:  Repairman comes to fix your VAX or Alpha.  Leaves a substitute J > (trojan horse) version of sys$system:loginout.exe (or anything else thatD > is normally installed with privs or executed by privileged users.) >  > How is this different?  E This is a situation of someone knowledgeable intentionally planting aaF trojan on your system.  This involves malicious forethought, something8 rare, but something that a defense can be built against.  F My previous example was of a PC-oriented hardware FSE who knows littleD to none about OpenVMS, who's only abilities are to run PC diags when? there's a problem.  This is going to be a very high probability-A scenario as we start to live with commodity PC processors for our F systems.  This involves ignorance, something common with PC FSE's, and@ something that can creep into anyone's system no matter how well> protected.  (Ignorants can easily bypass security procedures.)  D And like I said earlier, you could wind up with corruption, a crash,? or in the worst case, an OS-independent chunk of malware.  JustfD because we don't know how to write one today does not mean that this) hole will not be exploited in the future.s  C This is a dangerous area.  All I want to know is how engineering is E proposing to ensure that a boot from an insecure partition is secure.R   Aaron    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 09:30:38 -0500L- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)-  Subject: Re: Itanium and OpenVMS3 Message-ID: <mnNLipfO62O8@eisner.encompasserve.org>s  | In article <8af17fe1.0110090617.39804f1c@posting.google.com>, alphaman-nixspam@hsv.sungardtrust.com (Aaron Sakovich) writes:^ > John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> wrote in message news:<1011008211049.420D-100000@Ives.egh.com>... >> hN >> Scenario 2:  Repairman comes to fix your VAX or Alpha.  Leaves a substituteK >> (trojan horse) version of sys$system:loginout.exe (or anything else that E >> is normally installed with privs or executed by privileged users.)n >> t >> How is this different?  > G > This is a situation of someone knowledgeable intentionally planting a'H > trojan on your system.  This involves malicious forethought, something: > rare, but something that a defense can be built against. > H > My previous example was of a PC-oriented hardware FSE who knows littleF > to none about OpenVMS, who's only abilities are to run PC diags whenA > there's a problem.  This is going to be a very high probabilityoC > scenario as we start to live with commodity PC processors for ourl
 > systems.  4 That depends on who you hire to do hardware service.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 10:30:08 -0400n- From: "John Eisenschmidt" <jeisensc@aaas.org>y  Subject: Re: Itanium and OpenVMS+ Message-ID: <sbc2d1d0.048@AAASMTA.aaas.org>   K I could be a little out of place or late in the game here, but isn't this =1J where something like tripwire comes into place? One generates a checksum =L of all their binary files and has the system alert them when the checksums =K don't match. The only time checksums would have to be rebuilt against the ='+ OS are when you apply an ECO or upgrade.=20i  E In that way, if a tech were to replace a startup file with a Trojan =yI (unlikely considering the caliber of tech I've seen in the past year or =sI so) they would also have to know you're running a checksum software and =c how to regenerate them.=20  H If you assume they could write and plant a Trojan, you can assume they =L could circumvent that as well, but they would need a significant amount of =J time at the console. That's why we don't let technicians out of our sight.  G >>> Aaron Sakovich <alphaman-nixspam@hsv.sungardtrust.com> 10/09/2001 =  10:17:07 AM >>>-L John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> wrote in message news:<1011008211049.420D-100000= @Ives.egh.com>...d >=20D > Scenario 2:  Repairman comes to fix your VAX or Alpha.  Leaves a =
 substituteJ > (trojan horse) version of sys$system:loginout.exe (or anything else thatD > is normally installed with privs or executed by privileged users.) >=20 > How is this different?  E This is a situation of someone knowledgeable intentionally planting atF trojan on your system.  This involves malicious forethought, something8 rare, but something that a defense can be built against.  F My previous example was of a PC-oriented hardware FSE who knows littleD to none about OpenVMS, who's only abilities are to run PC diags when? there's a problem.  This is going to be a very high probabilityKA scenario as we start to live with commodity PC processors for ouroF systems.  This involves ignorance, something common with PC FSE's, and@ something that can creep into anyone's system no matter how well> protected.  (Ignorants can easily bypass security procedures.)  D And like I said earlier, you could wind up with corruption, a crash,? or in the worst case, an OS-independent chunk of malware.  JusteD because we don't know how to write one today does not mean that this) hole will not be exploited in the future.e  C This is a dangerous area.  All I want to know is how engineering isgE proposing to ensure that a boot from an insecure partition is secure.    Aaron    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 08:11:00 -0700e' From: David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu>i  Subject: Re: Itanium and OpenVMS+ Message-ID: <3BC31384.F833D006@caltech.edu>   " "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" wrote:   >' >u > [...]n> > >+  Hmm.  I guess that for a simple binary detection of thisP > >+sort of intrusion all that's really needed is a tiny program on CD that justS > >+booted and generated 2 or 3 checksums for the entire system disk outside of theoM > >+FAT32.  Write the results down.  Let the service guy do his thing, run itlP > >+again.  If anything has changed you have to look harder, otherwise, go ahead
 > >+and boot.7 >i< >  Regardless the problem you mention - reading whole system> > disk takes *time* ! Do you know what happens when production7 > system is halted and you propose additional half hour  > to wait ?? ;>s >o  T The system's been down for the technician to have access, so we're not talking a new event, just extendingdS the current one.  Let's assume that the system was functional enough at shutdown tos% be able to run the checksum programs.2S Let's also assume that you do NOT let the technician boot the system to VMS (he canS do anything elseS to fix it) and that you have a smallish system disk of say 8 Gb with a read rate ofe" 20Mb/sec and that you can checksumS that disk at that rate.  It would  then take an additional 400 seconds to calculater& the binary checksums across the entireM disk, twice.  That's time, but not a huge amount of it.  If the technician isi: working on the system it's unlikely that he could diagnose' and repair anything within 800 seconds.M  = There are threeo things to check when the technician is done:u    1.  The VMS system is untouched.! 2.  The FAT32 files are all valide/ 3.  The BIOS (or whatever it's called) is validn  T If both are true, then you're safe.  The latter two tests are much easier and faster0 than the former.  All that's needed is a utilityT on the VMS boot CDROM and a table on a web site somewhere of all the valid checksums/ (md5 + one or two others should be sufficient).oO The 2nd and 3rd tests should run very quickly since there would only be a smalltT amount of data to check  For that matter, this utility might as well be the same oneT that is normally used to write/maintain the FAT32 files and BIOS in the first place,6 or to partition the disk so that VMS can be installed.   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@caltech.edu   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 17:47:05 GMT32 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)" Subject: Job: OpenVMS, Rdb, SQL, C1 Message-ID: <tKGw7.170$RL6.1144@news.cpqcorp.net>,  I   Please contact me off-line if you have experience in and have interest -I   in developing database applications in an Oracle Rdb and C environment eI   on OpenVMS VAX and on OpenVMS Alpha platforms.  Good working knowledge -J   of SQL, of embedded SQL (.SC), of Rdb, of DCL, and of OpenVMS user-mode    programming are requirements.   H   I have word of a potential two two- to three-year job opening with an G   organization that is regularly using OpenVMS -- the organization and fC   the job opening are both located in the New Hampshire (USA) area.   I   I fully expect that a resume, references, and salary requirements will sG   need to be provided, and the resume and references will be checked.  e  0   Principals only, please.  No agencies, please.  F   I do not have the complete details nor a definitive job description,F   nor do I know for certain that the position will actually open.  (IfE   the job does actually open up, this would occur over the next week h	   or so.)   N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 05:40:36 -0700o/ From: on_the_move4ever@yahoo.com (Rick Nickles) Y Subject: Re: Meta, giga, yadda yadda yadda (was Re: Comments on Compaq        presentatiol= Message-ID: <b2faac46.0110090440.769dcb81@posting.google.com>   C Have you heard of the Yottabyte (there is such a thing)..   After ae5 while, people make up the names, and then they stick.h        j oward S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote in message news:<howard-A0AD5C.20005308102001@enews.newsguy.com>...6 > In article <C2256ADF.0048B574.00@jklh21.valmet.com>,$ >  norm.raphael@jamesbury.com wrote: >  > > Thanks, Jim. > > O > > The base-10 prefix list is here and seems not to be defined past 24-powers.1 > J > Probably hasn't been needed yet.  People who deal in such large numbers M > probably just use scientific notation and leave it at that.  It's possible  , > that ISO will have to define new prefixes. >  > 10^x    Name > 27      Huge (HB?) > 30      Really Huge (RB?)d$ > 33      Really Freaking Huge (FB?)  > 36      Bigger Than Huge (BB?) > 39      Really Bigger (???) & > 42      Really Freaking Bigger (???)3 > 45      Wow, that's big (WB? call it "frog size")t > 48      Really Wow (????)p >   .p >   .d >   .    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:23:36 GMTe4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>) Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!n= Message-ID: <YDEw7.99638$vq.19678686@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>r  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C150B5.2066B870u Content-Type: text/plain;e 	charset="iso-8859-1"z+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   4 DO NOT OPEN THIS, MCAFEE VIRUSSCAN JUST TAGGED IT!!!  + ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C150B5.2066B8707 Content-Type: text/html; 	charset="iso-8859-1"0+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printables  > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD>7 <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =o charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <SCRIPT language=3DJavaScript> function haha()t {s    while (true)f@        window.alert("** WARNING ** Virus Scan has detected the =E alt.config virus on your hard drive. If you have recently opened an =eH email or newsgroup message and see this alert your system is infected.") } 	 </SCRIPT>t  6 <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE>- </HEAD>-( <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff onload=3Dhaha()>J <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>DO NOT OPEN THIS, MCAFEE VIRUSSCAN JUST =	 TAGGED=20p  IT!!!</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>  - ------=_NextPart_000_00EA_01C150B5.2066B870---   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 18:18:40 +0200o  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>) Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!! + Message-ID: <VA.00000472.07352aee@sture.ch><  G In article <YDEw7.99638$vq.19678686@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, Terry C. F Shannon wrote:  # [HTML including Javascript snipped]3   What was that ????   ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerlandc   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 16:29:28 GMTh1 From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)_) Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!! , Message-ID: <9pv8l8$17mb$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>  = In article <YDEw7.99638$vq.19678686@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>,s7  "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes:l |> |> i7 |> DO NOT OPEN THIS, MCAFEE VIRUSSCAN JUST TAGGED IT!!!a |> h  D Use a real MUA and NewsReader and you don't have to worry about it!!7 Never been infected by Email or News and never will be..   bill   -- .J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   e   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 16:37:12 GMT6, From: rick stuart <rick_stuart@anadarko.com>) Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!! , Message-ID: <3BC326F7.71E386C2@anadarko.com>  D Looked like an example of a way to introduce a virus to linux folks.H More of a worm I guess.  Scared me to death!  It was just funny except I4 just realised how much fun he could have had though.   Paul Sture wrote:t  H > In article <YDEw7.99638$vq.19678686@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, Terry C. > Shannon wrote: > % > [HTML including Javascript snipped]a >n > What was that ???? >t > ___G > Paul Sture
 > Switzerland    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 16:49:42 GMTq) From: ahlstromc@home.com (Chris Ahlstrom)q) Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!,= Message-ID: <GUFw7.44920$Pr1.13391421@news1.rdc1.tn.home.com>s  H While stuck in the full lotus position, rick stuart chanted this mantra:  F > Looked like an example of a way to introduce a virus to linux folks.J > More of a worm I guess.  Scared me to death!  It was just funny except I6 > just realised how much fun he could have had though.  & I'm glad I use slrn to read this crap.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 19:11:51 +0200e  From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>) Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!g+ Message-ID: <VA.00000476.0765d8b8@sture.ch>a  C In article <9pv8l8$17mb$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>, Bill Gunshannon wrote:t? > In article <YDEw7.99638$vq.19678686@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>,k9 >  "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes:h > |> > |> g9 > |> DO NOT OPEN THIS, MCAFEE VIRUSSCAN JUST TAGGED IT!!!s > |> o > F > Use a real MUA and NewsReader and you don't have to worry about it!!9 > Never been infected by Email or News and never will be.  >  > bill >kC Didn't touch me either :-) My newsreader simply displayed the HTML aB text.  Attachments simply get dumped to a separate directory, too.  H I had a telephone engineer here yesterday to fix a fault on my line, so B as soon as he was finished I grabbed my messages as a line test...  H The outcome of which was he left clutching a printout of the url for my D mail/newsreader. OK it shouldn't be that hard to convert an Outlook + user, but it was _immensely_ satisfying :-)s   ___t
 Paul Sture Switzerlandr   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 12:42:23 -0500 + From: John Karp <karpage2@subdimension.com>e) Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!! / Message-ID: <3BC336FF.6030809@subdimension.com>i   Terry C. Shannon wrote:   6 > DO NOT OPEN THIS, MCAFEE VIRUSSCAN JUST TAGGED IT!!! >     & McAfee tags javascript infinite loops?    	 His code: 5 =====================================================c     script LANGUAGE="JavaScript">o function haha()f {u     while (true)@         window.alert("** WARNING ** Virus Scan has detected the D alt.config virus on your hard drive. If you have recently opened an H email or newsgroup message and see this alert your system is infected.") }H </script   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 08:30:08 GMT=+ From: "Andy Proctor" <aproctor@hotmail.com>= Subject: Re: net$ignore_decnet5 Message-ID: <1002615604.172114@ananke.eclipse.net.uk>   4 Thanks to all who helped. The logical was defined inK SYS$MANAGER:NET$LOCICALS.COM, which was one I missed/didn't know about. Allo! works great now, thanks everyone!J   Andy Proctor   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 11:03:15 +0200 * From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)/ Subject: Re: Netcraft is now able to detect VMS)( Message-ID: <3bc2bd53@news.kapsch.co.at>  d In article <k7kw7.99$RL6.408@news.cpqcorp.net>, "Sue Skonetski" <susan.skonetski@compaq.com> writes: >Folks, check outsF >www.http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?host=www.openvms.compaq.com. >oD >Netcraft is now able to detect OpenVMS and Compaq Secure Web ServerI >(currently based upon Apache 1.3.14). In roughly a month, after the nextaI >Netcraft web server survey is run, we will have a list of sites that areo >running OpenVMS and CSWS.  B Would be great. But http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html#osE still doesn't list OpenVMS as 'reliably detectable' and unfortunatelyoK http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html#uptime doesn't list VMS either.d6 Maybe only a doc bug ? Otherwise, still a lot to do...   -- e< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888p< <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 06:23:23 -0500 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)g/ Subject: Re: Netcraft is now able to detect VMSm3 Message-ID: <hu3IlXVHq45R@eisner.encompasserve.org>-  U In article <3bc2bd53@news.kapsch.co.at>, eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) writes:   D > Would be great. But http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html#os5 > still doesn't list OpenVMS as 'reliably detectable'f  A To be listed there, VMS would have to be reliably detectable whena< running WASD, OSU, Purveyor and Netscape server too, right ?  @ Two of those products are not going to be changed by the vendor.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:12:24 +0200< From: "Martin Vorlaender" <martin.vorlaender@pdv-systeme.de>/ Subject: Re: Netcraft is now able to detect VMSs4 Message-ID: <9pupj5$khv67$1@ID-56200.news.dfncis.de>   Larry Kilgallen wrote...- >eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) writes:lE >> Would be great. But http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html#osl6 >> still doesn't list OpenVMS as 'reliably detectable' > B >To be listed there, VMS would have to be reliably detectable when= >running WASD, OSU, Purveyor and Netscape server too, right ?  >nA >Two of those products are not going to be changed by the vendor.b   WASD can be detected: 8 http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=wasd.vsm.com.au   OSU can be detected:A http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.eduw   Purveyor can be detected:-3 http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.kea.de0  3 I've no idea who runs a FastTrack server under VMS.u   cu,R   Martin --J One OS to rule them all       | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer7 One OS to find them           | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de1 One OS to bring them all      |o( http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/> And in the Darkness bind them.| home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 07:33:40 -0700 < From: alphaman-nixspam@hsv.sungardtrust.com (Aaron Sakovich)/ Subject: Re: Netcraft is now able to detect VMSa= Message-ID: <8af17fe1.0110090633.5b055d54@posting.google.com>e  Z eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) wrote in message news:<3bc2bd53@news.kapsch.co.at>...D > Would be great. But http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html#osG > still doesn't list OpenVMS as 'reliably detectable' and unfortunatelyeM > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html#uptime doesn't list VMS either.s8 > Maybe only a doc bug ? Otherwise, still a lot to do...  F See my previous post about ISN's.  This may not be do-able at all withB VMS, sad to say.  (Sad from the Netcraft perspective, but I'm very? happy with a secure IP transport that uses unpredictable randomr	 numbers.)i  E I cannot find specific details on how VMS forms an ISN -- does anyoneo have any relevant specifics?   Aaron    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 10:59:27 -0500d- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)f/ Subject: Re: Netcraft is now able to detect VMSe3 Message-ID: <2R5Mb8iG89pL@eisner.encompasserve.org>.  Z eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) wrote in message news:<3bc2bd53@news.kapsch.co.at>...D > Would be great. But http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html#osG > still doesn't list OpenVMS as 'reliably detectable' and unfortunatelyPM > http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html#uptime doesn't list VMS either. 8 > Maybe only a doc bug ? Otherwise, still a lot to do...   @ I mentioned this to someone I know at DEQ who said they hope theC "reliably detectable" issue will be resolved with the next NetcraftoC monthly run.  If not, they will look further, as being listed there) is a goal, not a side-effect.u   ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:22:09 -0700 (PDT). From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>( Subject: OpenVMS Backup:  7GB in 3:30 hs@ Message-ID: <20011009162209.12240.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com>   Do you have this ?  ' My OpenVMS servers are backing up aboutn- 7GB in 3:30 hrs. For me it is extremely slow.i1 I am using a DDS3 device, recording in DDS2 tapes- in COMPACTION mode.0  / I have about 50 GB in disks - or my full backuph" (/IMAGE) is about  24 hours (!!!!)  2 Next year we will buy a greater StorageTek (I dont1 know the right model) because the actual robot is 0 connected only to the Unix machines (Origins and4 IBM/SP) and a lot of Sparcstations/Octane, backuping via EMC/EDM.   Regards    FC=20r     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D L =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D  F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazill fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3Dg  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?L NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/mon= th.e# http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1;   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 12:46:07 -0400e- From: "John Eisenschmidt" <jeisensc@aaas.org> , Subject: Re: OpenVMS Backup:  7GB in 3:30 hs+ Message-ID: <sbc2f1a0.068@AAASMTA.aaas.org>o  K You will get better performance if you switch to DD3 tapes with that DDS3 =iJ drive, especially if you use /MEDIA_FORMAT=3DCOMPACT. If you need a real =I quick and dirty to your backup slowness, replace the DD3 with a DD4 and =d replace the tapes with DDS4.  J Our Alpha backups are done outside the framework of our network backups. =H We use Mammoth II changers and Backup Exec to take full backups of the =L network drives and email system every night. We've been pushing Veritas to =D write an OpenVMS client for Backup Exec for a while now (they have =4 Netware, NT, Solaris, and Linux). So far, deaf ears.  , As for the image backups - I feel your pain.  
 Best of luck,i John  G >>> Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> 10/09/2001 12:22:09 PM >>>r Do you have this ?  ' My OpenVMS servers are backing up about - 7GB in 3:30 hrs. For me it is extremely slow. 1 I am using a DDS3 device, recording in DDS2 tapesa in COMPACTION mode.f  / I have about 50 GB in disks - or my full backups" (/IMAGE) is about  24 hours (!!!!)  2 Next year we will buy a greater StorageTek (I dont1 know the right model) because the actual robot isa0 connected only to the Unix machines (Origins and4 IBM/SP) and a lot of Sparcstations/Octane, backuping via EMC/EDM.   Regardsl   FC=20t     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3DsL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D- F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazilf fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br=20fL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3Ds  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?C NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just =r $8.95/month.# http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1o   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 14:36:57 GMTe: From: lewiswont_eat_spam@lumina.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis)+ Subject: Re: OpenVMS, Apache and hackers...e( Message-ID: <9pv229$a0b$1@top.mitre.org>  | Mike Rechtman <rechtman@tzora.co.il> writes in article <3BB60614.2040409@tzora.co.il> dated Sat, 29 Sep 2001 20:34:12 +0300:F >- No signs of breakin found. Still getting some ..default.ida?XXXX... >accesses, too.   H The information security folks at my company have been testing for stuffL like this.  I'm running an old version of OSU HTTPD, which doesn't handle ..L or // very well (for some reason it creates a subprocess which does a lot ofI locking and unlocking).  Their breakin attempt was unsuccessful, but theyoH did hose up my cluster pretty good with a whole lot of decnet processes, until I put-  	 fail *..*-	 fail *//*e   in my .conf file.-  8 --Keith Lewis              klewiswont_eat_spam@mitre.org PGP key available.         o> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 15:55:16 +02005 From: "Philippe Bocher" <philippe.bocher@euriware.fr>  Subject: PB with decnet copy$ Message-ID: <3bc2f3a4@news.euriware>  
     Hello,D     We've got a strange pb with decnet copy from one node to another8     copy *.* node"username password"::device:[directory]1     all files are copied but the process end withw  -     %REM_S_END, control returned to node node1       Any idea  #     Configuration Alpha server 4100.     Openvms 7.2-1H1,     Decnet 7.2     Ethernet 10r     -- Philippe Bocher. philippe.bocher@euriware.frx   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:20:55 +0100* From: Andrew Robinson <arobinson@hspg.com>3 Subject: RE: PC LA70 driver (was: Re: LA-70 Driver)nM Message-ID: <CDA4BAD1E10ED41181AC00508B6051D3C3E3F6@grumpy.internal.hspg.com>n  H You can find the driver you want at www.driverguide.com, but as has beenH stated, using a compatible driver is just as good and was recommended by7 Digital many many moons ago, in their performance tips.FJ 'For the following models and text printing performance, use the following drivers:J - LA70 in Proprinter mode, select IBM Proprinter II driver under Windows;'   Regardsu   Andrew Robinson3   -----Original Message-----3 From: Alphaman [mailto:alphaman64@nixspam-home.com]l Sent: 09 October 2001 03:24g To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com63 Subject: Re: PC LA70 driver (was: Re: LA-70 Driver)m    2 Windows 3.1?  You might find a native LA70 driver.  J Other than that, IIRC the LA70 could emulate an IBM ProPrinter.  I believeL there were never any drivers written for the LA series of printers for Win95	 or later.!  L Like Hoff said, tho, VMS doesn't require such things, and this really is theF wrong newsgroup for peecee driver Q's.  Comp.sys.dec might be a littleG closer to what you want, but even that's not 100% right.  I have seen a I website with drivers for obsolete printers (and other devices) on it, but9K cannot find it now.  You may want to hit some search engines if you want to  follow that route.  
 Good luck, AaronS --> Aaron Sakovich  http://members.home.net/sakovich/alphaman.html  2 "I fear all we have done is waken a sleeping giant+      and fill him with a terrible resolve.")'       Japanese Admiral Isoruku YamamotoM'       after the bombing of Pearl Harbor<  < Those that don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.    = Hoff Hoffman <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote in messageU) news:53nv7.24$RL6.189@news.cpqcorp.net...<K > In article <3BBCE024.E50631D8@home.com>, Andy Csepely <kicsi2l8@home.com>- writes:-H > :I'm in need of a windows driver for an LA-70 printer. Any thoughts? I3 > :looked on some sites but was unable to find one.s >-H >   Wrong newsgroup -- this is the OpenVMS newsgroup, and not the random >   PC widget driver newsgroup.  >FI >   OpenVMS treats the LA70 as a standard serial printer device, and does?* >   not require specialzed drivers for it. >-J >   You'll want to ask the Windows folks which of the gazillions of serialI >   printers you should use -- the LA50, LA75 and various other serial LA ' >   printer drivers will probably work.. >>0 >   The archives of PC drivers are available at: >d- >     http://www4.support.compaq.com/support/@ >iH >   If you follow the links to the printer links, you'll find directions> >   for the LA75, which I'd tend to expect would suffice here. >a( >  ---------------------------- #include' <rtfaq.h> ----------------------------- L >       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com, >  --------------------------- pure personal# opinion ---------------------------n1 >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering| hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com >e   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 07:12:47 -07001* From: James Gessling <jgessling@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Python on VMS) Message-ID: <3BC305DF.DDA8785A@yahoo.com>2  + Try:  http://decus.decus.de/~zessin/python/a   Jim   
 CMO wrote:  . > Is anyone aware of a port of Python for VMS?   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 18:22:27 +0200 From: zessin@decus.ded Subject: Re: Python on VMS+ Message-ID: <00A03477.D04C38F9.11@decus.de>y   James Gessling wrote:e, >Try:  http://decus.decus.de/~zessin/python/ >a >Jim >s >CMO wrote:  >h/ >> Is anyone aware of a port of Python for VMS?t  
 Please go to:-  $ http://www.decus.de/~zessin/python2/#        ^^^                        ^r#        !!!                        !c   -- M
 Uwe Zessin   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 05:33:07 -0700.& From: coven@talk21.com (Mark Corcoran)Y Subject: Re: Quert wrt NETACP on VMS 5.5-2 (specifically, but probably relates to NETACP/o= Message-ID: <15845bab.0110090433.479a0585@posting.google.com>   H > If Accounting is enabled, you might be able to get some clues from theH > process termination records of the processes involved, even if the log > files are gone.-  M Unfortunately not!  The system to which the COPY commands are being directed,uJ is a relatively busy system (in terms of process creation and termination,+ not specifically the amount of CPU or I/O).c    D > You might consider adding a small random amount of "dither" to theH > times the batch jobs are scheduled to run, chosen at the time they areG > submitted.  Or, the batch job, once started, could then wait a randomT5 > amount of time before starting the COPY operations.a  J If only...  Not really working in development any more since I moved jobs,J we're not really permitted to make DCL changes, much less copy executables onto the systems.a    G > While you troubleshoot things, you might want to consider raising the - > DECnet Incoming Timer on the target machinea  C I doubled this yesterday from 45 to 90, and there appeared to be nom problems today.i  F Given that the number of problems we have previously got with "network? partner exited" (which varied on a day-to-day basis), I'm, erm,n "cautiously optimisitic".   B I'll keep an eye on the situation for a few days, to see if things remain the same.  E Obviously, this is only a stop gap, as is my next excuse that process E creation and deletion times will be quicker on a double-CPU ES40 than D a uVax 4000-700A (the real cause, as you point out, is the fact thatE all of the systems are trying to connect at the same time, but who am + I to argue with our engineering dept.? ;-))   E Thanks for the suggestion - the incoming timer wasn't something I had  even considered!     Mark   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 14:42:55 +0200G= From: Oswald Knoppers <Oswald.Knoppers@contrastmediagroep.nl> Y Subject: Re: Quert wrt NETACP on VMS 5.5-2 (specifically, but probably relates to NETACP/s5 Message-ID: <3BC2F0CF.5FB99F7C@contrastmediagroep.nl>-   Mark Corcoran wrote:  L > We have a large number of OVMS systems (~240, a combination of 7.1 and 7.2M > systems), which until recently, were not time-synched, and as part of theirkK > daily housekeeping job, would copy a number of files off the system, ontoO7 > a 5.5-2 Vaxcluster, which is running DECnet Phase IV.o  G Is this system configured as a router? If so, i would check the maximum-C broadcast nonrouters. This parameter should be set greater then thet% amount of nodes you have on your LAN.r  F Actually if you have any other phase IV routers you should do the same
 on these too.7   Regards,   Oswald   ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 06:16:52 -0700 (PDT). From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>" Subject: Re: Question on VMS Virus@ Message-ID: <20011009131652.43838.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com>  ( The main "back orifice" from OpenVMS  is, Apache... I would like a non-Open Web server' for OpenVMS. The people which developeds& RDB would develop a better Web server.5 Imagine a WMU (Web Management Utility) like RMU - allc integrated ....m    5 There are Java virus nowadays... so it is the danger.n   Regardst   FC=20p  1 --- Arne Vajh=F8j <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> wrote:t > sfm wrote:5 > > I have never heard of a system running OpenVMS tod > obtain a virus, butL5 > > recently we found that a NT Server which providesw > a software link to 1* > > of our servers had many virus's on it. > >=20/ > > Is there software I can obtain to check for1 > virus's on my alpha + > > servers or should I not worry about it.  > >=201 > > If so the companies name or homepage would be  > greatly appreciated. >=205 > Even though in theory it is possible to write a VMSa
 > virus, thenM5 > we have never seen a real VMS virus (some smart DCL- > script to show# > it can be done has been written).c >=206 > And since there has been no VMS viruses so far, then > there aree" > no anti-virus software for VMS ! >=20 > Arne     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3DlL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3Da F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazile fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D0  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?L NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/mon= th.6# http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:27:57 -0400. From: "Vajhoej, Arne" <Arne.Vajhoej@gtech.com>" Subject: RE: Question on VMS VirusL Message-ID: <8994A66FFE9ED411BD200008C75D64FDF82DE3@belmail02.mis.gtech.com>  > I am not aware of that many known security problems with CSWS.  B If you prefer a VMS specific HTTP-server, then go for OSU or WASD.   What is a "Java virus" ?   Arne   -----Original Message-----5 From: Fabio Cardoso [mailto:fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br] $ Sent: Tuesday 09. October 2001 15:17 To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Come Cc: Arne "Vajhxj" Subject: Re: Question on VMS Virus    ( The main "back orifice" from OpenVMS  is, Apache... I would like a non-Open Web server' for OpenVMS. The people which developedS& RDB would develop a better Web server.5 Imagine a WMU (Web Management Utility) like RMU - all  integrated ....v    5 There are Java virus nowadays... so it is the danger.p   Regardsd   FC /  / --- Arne Vajhoj <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> wrote:t > sfm wrote:5 > > I have never heard of a system running OpenVMS to  > obtain a virus, butr5 > > recently we found that a NT Server which providesc > a software link to 1* > > of our servers had many virus's on it. > > / > > Is there software I can obtain to check fora > virus's on my alphaG+ > > servers or should I not worry about it.. > > 1 > > If so the companies name or homepage would bec > greatly appreciated. > 5 > Even though in theory it is possible to write a VMS 
 > virus, thenl5 > we have never seen a real VMS virus (some smart DCLe > script to show# > it can be done has been written).h > 6 > And since there has been no VMS viruses so far, then > there area" > no anti-virus software for VMS ! >  > Arne     =====h ========================== Fabio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?A NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just0 $8.95/month.# http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1    ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 06:55:36 -0700 (PDT). From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>" Subject: RE: Question on VMS Virus@ Message-ID: <20011009135536.32916.qmail@web20207.mail.yahoo.com>   Arne   About Java Virus  < http://www.javacoffeebreak.com/articles/javavirus/index.html   Regardsn   FC=20     3 --- "Vajhoej, Arne" <Arne.Vajhoej@GTECH.COM> wrote:t5 > I am not aware of that many known security problems  > with CSWS. >=203 > If you prefer a VMS specific HTTP-server, then goa > for OSU or WASD. >=20 > What is a "Java virus" ? >=20 > Arne >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Fabio Cardosor# > [mailto:fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br]a& > Sent: Tuesday 09. October 2001 15:17 > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com, > Cc: Arne "Vajhxj$ > Subject: Re: Question on VMS Virus >=20 >=20* > The main "back orifice" from OpenVMS  is. > Apache... I would like a non-Open Web server) > for OpenVMS. The people which developedh( > RDB would develop a better Web server.3 > Imagine a WMU (Web Management Utility) like RMU -i > allu > integrated ....  >=20 >=20/ > There are Java virus nowadays... so it is thet	 > danger.i >=20	 > Regardsb >=20 > FC=20) >=201 > --- Arne Vajhoj <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> wrote:a > > sfm wrote:4 > > > I have never heard of a system running OpenVMS > to > > obtain a virus, butx. > > > recently we found that a NT Server which
 > provides > > a software link to 1, > > > of our servers had many virus's on it. > > >=201 > > > Is there software I can obtain to check for= > > virus's on my alpha - > > > servers or should I not worry about it.g > > >=203 > > > If so the companies name or homepage would be3 > > greatly appreciated. > >=203 > > Even though in theory it is possible to write a_ > VMS_ > > virus, then_3 > > we have never seen a real VMS virus (some smartt > DCLu > > script to show% > > it can be done has been written)./ > >=203 > > And since there has been no VMS viruses so far,- > then
 > > there are $ > > no anti-virus software for VMS ! > >=20 > > Arne >=20 >=20 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3DVN > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3Dg > Fabio dos Santos Cardoso > OpenVMS System Manager > Rio de Janeiro - Brazila > fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brN > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3De >=204 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!?5 > NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web sitee > hosting, justh > $8.95/month.% > http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1e     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3DlL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3Da F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazilf fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3Df  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?L NEW from Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/mon= th.m# http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 12:51:53 GMTB4 From: lewis_nospam@lumina.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis)% Subject: Re: Really Unhackable...???? ( Message-ID: <9purt9$8la$1@top.mitre.org>   Art Rice <arice@myhouse.org> writes in article <7s1r7.72$nz6.116317@paloalto-snr2.gtei.net> dated Sat, 22 Sep 2001 14:43:15 GMT:M >Well, back when that book was written there were quite a few VAX that still DK >had the default SYSTEM, FIELD, and USER  passwords set.  And the title is i' >"The Cuckoo's Egg" first printed 1989.g  K I had the dubious distinction of being the sysadmin of one of the computers3E hacked in that book, although I was a regular user at the time of the_J hacking (got the sysadmin job about the time the book came out).  The nameK of my computer was changed (presumably for legal reasons) to AEROVAX in thegH book.  Of course since we did and still do run Decnet phase IV, the real name was only 6 characters.   L The account that the author (not necessarily the hacker he was chasing) usedI to get in was GUEST, no password.  You couldn't *do* anything significantaI from that account, or so we thought...  From our open incoming modem poolaL you could only access a short list of machines (incuding the VAX).  From anyI account on the VAX you could get back to any machine on the LAN (not justyD the "secure" ones on the menu), including the outgoing modem pool.    G It's been 15 years, I really hope the statute of limitations on companyfJ embarrassment is up, otherwise I'm in trouble.  Needless to say, we have a9 serious firewall and pain-in-the-ass dialup security now.   3 --Keith Lewis              klewis_no_spam@mitre.orgd PGP key available.         -> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 11:53:26 +0200 * From: Mike Rechtman <rechtman@tzora.co.il>+ Subject: Re: Show Intrusion privilege query-* Message-ID: <3BC2C916.8010302@tzora.co.il>   See remark lower down -    Rob Buxton wrote:w  H > On Mon, 08 Oct 2001 12:48:45 +0100, Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> > wrote: >    <... snipped ...>aG > I'd just like to be able to allow the Help desk folk to directly viewaB > intrusion alerts. Alas it gets worse, I can enable SECURITY as aD > Authorized priv. Trouble is this does not propogate through to theD > sub-process. So I can't turn it on. It needs to be a default priv. >   6 Try doing $SET PROC/PRIV=SECURITY _before_ the spawn.  Authorized privs9 are not carried over the spawn. Don't remember the exact u wordind, but it's  in the docs.    G > A simple test was an account with SECURITY as an authorised priv. but  > not default.A > Login, go to Mail and spawn and then check the privs. magically. > SECURITY gets lost.i > > > Also see from the docs. that SECURITY allows you to do a setF > password/system which can reset the System Password! So, I've really, > got to ensure these folk can't get to DCL. > H > The Web based solution looks intriguing, might have to play with that. >  > E >>Isn't it great when you have a largely user-proof operating system?d >>-- o* >>Regards, Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciences >>nclews at csc dot comr >> >      -- lE ---------------------------------------------------------------------o; Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not 7
 even that.? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il*h/ Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice i (home):(972)-2-99083377    "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes e another 80%"E --------------------------------------------------------------------- * ------ GEEK CODE BLOCK (Version: 3.1)-----( GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++' N++ K? w--- V+++$ PS+ PE-- t X- tv-- b+h DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@e* ---------- END GEEK CODE BLOCK  ----------   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:08:19 +0200 (CEST)m: From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>+ Subject: Re: Show Intrusion privilege querymI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0110091402120.4205-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>   % On Mon, 8 Oct 2001, Rob Buxton wrote:t [...] G >+A simple test was an account with SECURITY as an authorised priv. butb >+not default.A >+Login, go to Mail and spawn and then check the privs. magically. >+SECURITY gets lost.f  6  Sure - SPAWN copies the *current* privilege mask ! :)  > >+Also see from the docs. that SECURITY allows you to do a setF >+password/system which can reset the System Password! So, I've really, >+got to ensure these folk can't get to DCL.    You *use* system password ??   ;  Even if in SOME places that may be usefull - have not seens? any production system with /SYSTEM_PASSWORD enabled terminals !n?  If you not use it - then nothing prevents allowing the access.p; BTW: you know what "system password" is ? Excuse the query,f7  but have seen multiple people where was sure that thish'  is password for the user SYSTEM... -:)s    Regards - Gotfryd   -- LE =====================================================================kF $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEm. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================e   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 14:05:50 +0200u5 From: Philippe Marmillod <philippe.marmillod@epfl.ch>o' Subject: Re: Strange privilege problems-' Message-ID: <3BC2E81E.26C2899E@epfl.ch>-  . you have to test your root directory security:& $dir PROGDISK:[000000]MARTINH.DIR /SEC   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:44:15 +0200 (CEST)-: From: "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists" <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl>' Subject: Re: Strange privilege problemsuI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0110091414380.4205-100000@irys.stanpol.com.pl>:  8  Larry, John, Philippe: checking the commands in Martins example displays, we seen that: 3 - this is not symbol problem. The "DIR" command was /  not changed between "works" and "doesn't work"s8 - protection setting *can* be uhm... hard to resolve :),;  but I cannot find a way that dynamically changes depending 4  of success of failure of *previous* command ! (have4  hope noone suspects "DIR:==IF $STATUS THEN..." ;)!)7 - what the "priv" and "nopriv" symbol does we seen withs9  SHOW PROC/PRIV. And be aware that between the successful!3  DIR (without parameters) and second *the same* DIR-5  is only one command - the DIR 'protected_directory'.0    Really - looks like bug... !(  9  Martin - why you not check the appriopiate directory in:p) http://ftp.support.compaq.com/public/vms/o(  for *all* patches marked "Rating: 1" ??    Regards - Gotfryd   -- fE ===================================================================== F $ ON F$ERROR("LANGUAGE","ENGLISH","IN_MESSAGE").GT.F$ERROR("NORMAL") - 		THEN EXCUSE/OBJECT=MEo. $!                        GS@stanpol.zabrze.plE =====================================================================o   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 14:42:29 GMT)2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)' Subject: Re: Strange privilege problemsc0 Message-ID: <p1Ew7.153$RL6.847@news.cpqcorp.net>  d In article <3bc246dc.103765546@news.wlg.netlink.net.nz>, martin.hunt@inl.co.nz (Martin Hunt) writes:C :I am having weird problems when I turn off privileges. If I have a B :protection violation, I can't access my directory until I turn onE :BYPASS or READALL privilege. See the following log for an example. I  :am running VMS V7.1 on a VAX:  J   First apply the available mandatory ECO kits for OpenVMS, and enable andI   use OpenVMS security auditing to see exactly what failed.  Use commandstJ   such as DIRECTORY/SECURITY to examine the local security settings -- forI   instance, simply having SYSPRV enabled can change the ownership of the iB   created files (to match the ownership of the parent directory).   I   Whenever confronted with a NOPRIV error, immediately enable and use thetK   OpenVMS security auditing mechanisms to determine the particular trigger.tK   (It could be at the volume level, on a parent directory, or on some othere   object elsewhere.)  K   If you want to use a lower-level mechanism for displaying file activity, mG   you can also use the (undocumented) SET WATCH/CLASS=ALL FILE command rJ   (use /CLASS=NONE to disable the output) with CMEXEC or CMKRNL privilege 
   enabled.  I   Also look at the SECURITY_POLICY system parameter setting and (if this  I   OpenVMS VAX V7.1 host is part of a cluster with multiple system disks) :D   make certain you have the VMS$OBJECTS logical name (and the other I   required logical names) set up correctly.  (See SYLOGICALS.TEMPLATE on rJ   OpenVMS V7.2 and later for a list of the OpenVMS logical names that are    needed in a cluster.)m    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 06:55:33 GMT / From: "James Wilkinson" <elementyl@hotmail.com>o# Subject: Unaltered DCL command line B Message-ID: <Fbxw7.24848$bt.3395959927@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>  L I would like to get this in Fortran and have a routine that looks a lot likeH (DFLIB) GETARG does on other platforms.  I do this by reading the recallL buffer for the last command.  This works great unless the calling program isF invoked in a command procedure, in which case the command invoking theB command procedure is the last thing in the recall buffer, which is6 consistent with what one sees with the RECALL command.  L So is there a way to obtain the *unaltered* full DCL command line that works whether interactive or batch?a   Jamesc   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 03:46:38 -0400e' From: Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net>e' Subject: Re: Unaltered DCL command linei< Message-ID: <howard-9BFC91.03463809102001@enews.newsguy.com>  B In article <Fbxw7.24848$bt.3395959927@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,1  "James Wilkinson" <elementyl@hotmail.com> wrote:   N > So is there a way to obtain the *unaltered* full DCL command line that works > whether interactive or batch?t  4 Don't the "foreign command" facilities perform this? -- M Howard S ShubsD "Run in circles, scream and shout!"  "I hope you have good backups!"   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 19:24:10 +0010 % From: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.aui' Subject: Re: Unaltered DCL command line 5 Message-ID: <01K9B43V221U006549@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>3   James,  D Doesn't LIB$GET_FOREIGN give you this?  Also, have a look at Lawson H Wakefield's generic routines for all platforms; supposedly close to the I F2002/3/4/5/6... standard.  Sorry, forget the URL, but he's regularly on 0 c.l.f.  M >I would like to get this in Fortran and have a routine that looks a lot likeeI >(DFLIB) GETARG does on other platforms.  I do this by reading the recalloM >buffer for the last command.  This works great unless the calling program istG >invoked in a command procedure, in which case the command invoking thejC >command procedure is the last thing in the recall buffer, which isC7 >consistent with what one sees with the RECALL command.o >hM >So is there a way to obtain the *unaltered* full DCL command line that works- >whether interactive or batch?   Regards, Paddy   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 02:35:10 -0700  From: mpatt@bigfoot.com (Mal)r' Subject: Re: Unaltered DCL command line = Message-ID: <5d328ddf.0110090135.3f6264a9@posting.google.com>t  y "James Wilkinson" <elementyl@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Fbxw7.24848$bt.3395959927@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>...eN > I would like to get this in Fortran and have a routine that looks a lot likeJ > (DFLIB) GETARG does on other platforms.  I do this by reading the recallN > buffer for the last command.  This works great unless the calling program isH > invoked in a command procedure, in which case the command invoking theD > command procedure is the last thing in the recall buffer, which is8 > consistent with what one sees with the RECALL command. > N > So is there a way to obtain the *unaltered* full DCL command line that works > whether interactive or batch?  >  > James   9 I think LIB$GET_FOREIGN might be what you're looking for:    $HELP RTL LIB$ LIB$GET_FOREIGN   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:08:03 GMTe2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)' Subject: Re: Unaltered DCL command linec0 Message-ID: <npEw7.155$RL6.405@news.cpqcorp.net>  t In article <Fbxw7.24848$bt.3395959927@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>, "James Wilkinson" <elementyl@hotmail.com> writes:M :I would like to get this in Fortran and have a routine that looks a lot likeyI :(DFLIB) GETARG does on other platforms.  I do this by reading the recall=M :buffer for the last command.  This works great unless the calling program isYG :invoked in a command procedure, in which case the command invoking the0C :command procedure is the last thing in the recall buffer, which is-7 :consistent with what one sees with the RECALL command.(  6   Directly reading the recall buffer is not supported.  J   Directly reading the recall buffer would probably require you to performK   some level of DCL symbol substitution before you can process the command.cK   The DCL symbol substitution is something you really don't want to tangle eK   with implementing if you can at all avoid it -- there are three distinct iK   symbol substitution operations that you would have to contend with here:  I   the DCL verb substitution, the DCL ampersand substitution, and the DCL e   apostrophe substitution.  J   The DCL parsing routines are available, as are various other approaches.  4   The C getarg call is available in the C libraries.  J   It is far easier for us if you state what you want to do -- in addition J   to citing an existing routine from another platform -- as we can key offF   the problem statement rather than attempting to figure out what thisK   specified routine from some other platform(s) does and how it works, and MJ   then figuring out how to map this into what you want to do.  (You might K   be familiar with a particular call from a particular other platform, but     I might not be.)    M :So is there a way to obtain the *unaltered* full DCL command line that worksi :whether interactive or batch?  G   For some definitions of "unaltered", lib$get_foreign is the callback.     N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 16:25:12 GMTe4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>  Subject: Virus in comp.os.vms...= Message-ID: <IxFw7.99846$vq.19727014@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>   " From: "Paul Sture" <paul@sture.ch>) Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!! ( Date: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 12:18 PM  F In article <YDEw7.99638$vq.19678686@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, Terry C. Shannon wrote:  # [HTML including Javascript snipped]    What was that ????  	 See belowB    : The MessageLabs Virus Control Centre discovered a possible= virus or unauthorised code (such as a joke program or trojan)  in an email sent by you.  < Please read this whole email carefully. It explains what has> happened to your email, which suspected virus has been caught,  and what to do if you need help.    < ------------------------------------------------------------' Some details about the infected messageD< ------------------------------------------------------------   To help identify the email:i   The message sender was!     Info-VAX-Request@Mvb.Saic.Com=     terryshannon@mediaone.netD  ? (if this is not your email address, the message sender possiblyo7 belongs to a mailing list to which you both subscribe.)w  9 The message was titled 'Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!'o2 The message date was Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:23:36 GMTL The message identifier was <YDEw7.99638$vq.19678686@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net> The message recipients weren     XXXXXXX?     To help identify the virus:.  2 Scanner 3 (NAI Virus Scan) reported the following:  / /var/qmail/queue/split/0/692169_2MH_message.htm $         Found the JS/Loop trojan !!!   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 05:42:25 -0700t/ From: on_the_move4ever@yahoo.com (Rick Nickles)R Subject: Re: VMSMail APIs?= Message-ID: <b2faac46.0110090442.79f92342@posting.google.com>   C You'll have to log a call with support.  All this information isn'tk readily available to customers.     S paul@wren.cc.kux.edu wrote in message news:<3bc1e63f.18304210@news.cc.ukans.edu>...a> > Where, in manuals, or on-line can one find the VMSMail APIs? > 	 > Thanks!o   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:31:35 GMTh2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: VMSMail APIs?1 Message-ID: <rLEw7.160$RL6.1086@news.cpqcorp.net>g  o In article <b2faac46.0110090442.79f92342@posting.google.com>, on_the_move4ever@yahoo.com (Rick Nickles) writes:mD :You'll have to log a call with support.  All this information isn't  :readily available to customers. :y :cT :paul@wren.cc.kux.edu wrote in message news:<3bc1e63f.18304210@news.cc.ukans.edu>...? :> Where, in manuals, or on-line can one find the VMSMail APIs?b    J   This documentation isn't readily available?  That would be news to me.    I   The OpenVMS MAIL application programming interface (API) is documented,a-   and has been documented for a decade or so.   D   The one chunk that is not officially documented and not officiallyG   supported is the foreign transport calling interface underneath MAIL..F   There are examples of the transport interface around, check various F   Freeware and various DECUS library submissions.  The MAIL transport D   interface description is really only available in the (available) 0   OpenVMS source listings and similar resources.  G   If, however, this question is simplt referencing -- as I'd expect it  H   is -- reading and writing the MAIL file and sending mail messages and D   such, then this is all documented in the OpenVMS Utility Routines    Reference Manual.  T  F   If y'all don't know what a transport API is, it is an (undocumented)H   calling interface that is used by MAIL to send and receive mail via a 2   non-local, non-DECnet mail transport (eg: SMTP).    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 10:56:39 +01000 From: "Roberts, Andy" <Andy.Roberts@spirent.com> Subject: VRC15-KA Info?oM Message-ID: <AF62EE114EADD51195F60050047DC01009CA49@xchange.flightdata.co.uk>    Hi,   H I am trying to find documentation for my Digital VRC15-KA monitor, whichE came with and is usually attached to my AlphaServer 400 4/233. I havecC e-mailed CPQ (unfortunately, no help) and looked at the monitors on-8 http://www.compaq.com/legacysupport/digital/monitor.htmlH <http://www.compaq.com/legacysupport/digital/monitor.html>  but they allD have PCXxx-xx part numbers. Is one of these the PC equivalent of theF VRC15-KA? Or can anyone direct me to another site with the right info?   Thanks,    Andy Roberts   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:21:20 GMT-2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: VRC15-KA Info? 0 Message-ID: <QBEw7.158$RL6.778@news.cpqcorp.net>   In article <AF62EE114EADD51195F60050047DC01009CA49@xchange.flightdata.co.uk>, "Roberts, Andy" <Andy.Roberts@spirent.com> writes:  I :I am trying to find documentation for my Digital VRC15-KA monitor, whichsF :came with and is usually attached to my AlphaServer 400 4/233. I haveD :e-mailed CPQ (unfortunately, no help) and looked at the monitors on9 :http://www.compaq.com/legacysupport/digital/monitor.html+I :<http://www.compaq.com/legacysupport/digital/monitor.html>  but they alloE :have PCXxx-xx part numbers. Is one of these the PC equivalent of theiG :VRC15-KA? Or can anyone direct me to another site with the right info?i  L   I will assume you followed the video display monitor links present in the @   OpenVMS FAQ, and you tried a google newsgroup archives search.  H   Did you have any particular video monitor information in mind here as H   being the "right info"?  (I'll assume resolution, though this could as;   easily be a request for the configuration documentation.)l  M   The VRC15-KA series display will auto-synch between 33 and 66 KHz vertical kM   and 50 to 110 Hz horizontal, resolution 640 by 480 at 60 Hz, 640 by 480 at pJ   72 Hz, 800 by 600 at 72 Hz, 1024 by 768 at 70 Hz, 1024 by 768 at 72 Hz, G   1280 by 1024 at 88 Hz (Interlaced), and various other video settings.=  =N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 11:21:30 +0200n* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)L Subject: Re: [OpenVMS] V7.2 VAX satellite doesn't find V7.3 Alpha bootserver( Message-ID: <3bc2c19a@news.kapsch.co.at>  j In article <3BC21758.53D76846@ipl.demon.co.nospam.uk>, Steve Reece <SYSTEM@ipl.demon.co.nospam.uk> writes:I >Is it possible for you to bring up a node on the 7.2-1 system disk (do aD0 >restore from tape) and see if that still works?  E Could be done, but unlikely to happen (and I expect to see, that thensI it will work again just as before). Not so much time here/now, especially G for VMS (and don't forget, it is a production system [eg. mailserver]).i  E >Things I'd look at (but you probably already have) would be that thetB >correct disk device is specified in the MOP configuration for theH >satellite and that the cluster authorization details are correct.  WhatG >would happen if the details were wrong and the node was not allowed toI >join the cluster I wonder?t  F Checked of course. I only did an VMS upgrade on the Alpha. No fiddlingI in any network/cluster/MOP database at all. And if the MOP database wouldb> be incorrect, the MOP download would not succeed, but it does.  I >What does the operator log on the Alpha boot node have to say about it?  H >This is probably going to provide more information since it's providingH >the MOP download and enabling (or, in this case, not enabling) the disk >to be served.  ; Nothing more than that the MOP downline load was completed.   I >Did the VAX boot into the cluster when it had the local disk attached to= >it?  H Yup. That's how I run it now. But the same disk, BACKUP/IMAGE to the HSJK disk and used for booting the VAX via the Alpha Bootserver does NOT work !!j  M So, I still see, MOP is not the problem, MSCP serving for booting (from Alpha.G to VAX) is. After the boot from the local disk (ie. STARTUP.COM began),uK accessing the MSCP served (HSJ based) user disks is fortunately no problem.f   -- l< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888h< <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 11:32:21 +0200 * From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)L Subject: Re: [OpenVMS] V7.2 VAX satellite doesn't find V7.3 Alpha bootserver* Message-ID: <3bc2c425$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  e In article <i%nw7.115$RL6.733@news.cpqcorp.net>, hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) writes:Ik >In article <3BC21758.53D76846@ipl.demon.co.nospam.uk>, Steve Reece <SYSTEM@ipl.demon.co.nospam.uk> writes:t >:Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote:[ >:> In article <3bae1fec$1@news.kapsch.co.at>, eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) writes:w >:> >In article <rdeininger-2309011237310001@user-2ivebk3.dialup.mindspring.com>, rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes:H >:> >>In article <3badf412$1@news.kapsch.co.at>, eplan@kapsch.net wrote: >gL >:> >>> I upgraded my Alpha bootserver from V7.2-1 to V7.3 and now my still M >:> >>> V7.2 VAX satellite doesn't boot any longer (can't find disk server - e >:> >>> MOP is ok).r >n. >:> >%VAXcluster, no connection to disk server >eG >  That error is often (but not always) due to a disk allocation class  I >  configuration problem, particularly if your disk server is attempting  I >  to serve through some disks from a remote HSG, HSJ, HSC, etc., server.<J >  (Ensure that the disks you are serving are in the same non-zero class.)  B It is 1, just as the decade before. I got some hints for debuggingF (involving a FDDI SNIFFER) but I currently can't dig too much into it.  J >  I haven't been following this thread, so I haven't seen any informationJ >  on the specific storage configuration that might have been posted here.  J Ok. But for me, it is one another point for: don't run V7.3 in production.  ; HSJ42 (HSJ40 pair Hardware version  H07, with HSOF V37J-1).oM Only one bootserver left: AlphaServer 2100 5/250 (previously V7.2-1 now V7.3)BG 3 Alphastation satellites, 1 VAXstation 4000 (previously satellite, nowr a standalone cluster member).r   -- t< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888s< <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.562 ************************