1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 10 Oct 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 563       Contents: 3100 Server or Station? * Re: Anyone know about SSRVEXCEPT bugcheck?* Re: Anyone know about SSRVEXCEPT bugcheck?* Re: Anyone know about SSRVEXCEPT bugcheck?* Re: Anyone know about SSRVEXCEPT bugcheck?F Re: CETS2001 presentations posted (non-technical, Keynote and General)% Re: Cheap Itanium Systems for OpenVMS % Re: Cheap Itanium Systems for OpenVMS  Re: Creating a Larger Dump File  Re: CSWS Post Method Question? Re: CSWS Post Method Question?& Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors& Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors& Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors& Re: Higher prices for Alpha processorsP Re: Is there a speed penalty if I use T_FLOAT instead of G_FLOAT in my Fortran9X Re: Itanium and OpenVMS  Re: Itanium and OpenVMS  Re: Lkwset before CMKRNL$ Many Q-bus boards available for sale  Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!  Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!  Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!  RE: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!  Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!  RE: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!  Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!  Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!& Re: Netcraft is now able to detect VMS Re: New to VMS NT connection to VMS machine  Re: NT connection to VMS machine1 Official statement of support (VAX 7000, HSZ etc) 5 Re: Official statement of support (VAX 7000, HSZ etc) ! One more disk for a Alphaserver ? # Re: OpenVMS Backup:  7GB in 3:30 hs  Re: Purveyor Users?  Re: Question on VMS Virus  Re: Strange privilege problems Re: Strange privilege problems& Telnet DCL Routines for HTML Mail Msgs* Re: Telnet DCL Routines for HTML Mail Msgs* Re: Telnet DCL Routines for HTML Mail Msgs TELNETSYM Error  Re: TELNETSYM Error  Re: TELNETSYM Error  Re: TELNETSYM Error  Re: Unaltered DCL command line Unaltered DCL command line Re: Unaltered DCL command line Re: VMS<->Tru64 / Re: Warranty on ES45 reduced from 3 years to 1?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 17:05:12 -0400 % From: Paul Bailey <paulb@america.net>   Subject: 3100 Server or Station?+ Message-ID: <3BC36688.5D698783@america.net>   F Does anyone know what makes one 3100 Model 20 start up as a Server and another one as a Station?   E I am trying to get a more reliable 3100 model 20 but the new one will G only allow one user and it shows up as a server in the license utility.    Any help would be appreciated.   Thanks, Paul   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 18:30:49 GMT * From: bleau@umtof.umd.edu (Lawrence Bleau)3 Subject: Re: Anyone know about SSRVEXCEPT bugcheck? ) Message-ID: <9pvfop$st8$1@hecate.umd.edu>   W In reply to article <9ptb9b$s9f$1@hecate.umd.edu>, bleau@umtof.umd.edu (Lawrence Bleau)  writes:   I I have some additional information on this SSRVEXCEPT bugcheck.  It turns I out one of my users was trying to log in at the time of the crashes - all E four of them!  He never got the Username: prompt, btw.  This user has J logged in before without problems, but there may have been a change in hisD ISP or something along those lines that caused this - just a guess. 9 Anyway, it's too close in time to be coincidence, imho.     I Does anyone know about a telnet server or INET ACP problem that'd cause a I system crash under these conditions?  Again, my config is TCP/IP Services I for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.0A - ECO 2 on a Digital Personal WorkStation  running OpenVMS V7.1-2   Lawrence Bleau University of Maryland" Physics Dept., Space Physics Group 301-405-6223 bleau@umtof.umd.edu    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 13:39:01 -0500 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 3 Subject: Re: Anyone know about SSRVEXCEPT bugcheck? 3 Message-ID: <fNKqi7UhG$lP@eisner.encompasserve.org>   V In article <9pvfop$st8$1@hecate.umd.edu>, bleau@umtof.umd.edu (Lawrence Bleau) writes:Y > In reply to article <9ptb9b$s9f$1@hecate.umd.edu>, bleau@umtof.umd.edu (Lawrence Bleau) 
 > writes:  > K > I have some additional information on this SSRVEXCEPT bugcheck.  It turns K > out one of my users was trying to log in at the time of the crashes - all G > four of them!  He never got the Username: prompt, btw.  This user has L > logged in before without problems, but there may have been a change in hisF > ISP or something along those lines that caused this - just a guess. ; > Anyway, it's too close in time to be coincidence, imho.     B So what does SDA tell you was the current image and PC at the time. of the crash ?  Was it the same in all cases ?   ------------------------------   Date: 9 OCT 2001 16:29:14 GMT 4 From: karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher)3 Subject: Re: Anyone know about SSRVEXCEPT bugcheck? 5 Message-ID: <9OCT01.16291410@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu>   J In a previous article, hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) wrote:  H ->  Please move from your current OpenVMS Alpha V7.1-2 with your currentH ->  V5.0A ECO 2 installed to ECO 3 or (better) to V5.1 with ECO 2.  (YouL ->  will likely be asked to ECO or to upgrade and ECO when you report this.)  C There is at least one known issue with TCPIP V5.1 ECO 2 that caused C the following crash (different from discussed in this thread) here:   ; Bugcheck Type:     INVEXCEPTN, Exception while above ASTDEL $ Node:              THURIA  (Cluster)- CPU Type:          AlphaServer 1200 5/533 4MB  VMS Version:       V7.2-1  Current Process:   NULL " Current Image:     <not available>E Failing PC:        FFFFFFFF.8CC1D300    TCPIP$INTERNET_SERVICES+99300 $ Failing PS:        20000000.00000804N Module:            TCPIP$INTERNET_SERVICES (Link Date/Time:  9-JUL-2001 12:19) Offset:            00099300   A CSC has available the following new images that fix this problem:    	tcpip$bgdriver.exe_eco_z_a_v51  	tcpip$inetacp.exe_eco_z_a_v51( 	tcpip$internet_services.exe_eco_z_a_v51   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 19:46:46 GMT 2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)3 Subject: Re: Anyone know about SSRVEXCEPT bugcheck? 1 Message-ID: <GuIw7.179$RL6.1132@news.cpqcorp.net>   l In article <9OCT01.16291410@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu>, karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher) writes:K :In a previous article, hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) wrote:  : I :->  Please move from your current OpenVMS Alpha V7.1-2 with your current I :->  V5.0A ECO 2 installed to ECO 3 or (better) to V5.1 with ECO 2.  (You M :->  will likely be asked to ECO or to upgrade and ECO when you report this.)  : D :There is at least one known issue with TCPIP V5.1 ECO 2 that causedA :the following crash (different from discussed in this thread)...   K   Based on an analysis of the contents of the stack on the original crash,  I   the fix for the reported SSRVEXCEPT bugcheck involves the installation  D   of V5.0A ECO3, or (better) by moving to V5.1 with the current ECO.     ECO3 is available at:   B     ftp://ftp.support.compaq.com/public/vms/axp/v7.2-1/tcpip/5.0a/  =   The fix made to ECO3 that appears related here is this one:    	--   % ECO AQ  28-MAR-2001     Alpha and VAX            Images:   1         TCPIP$INETACP.EXE               V5.0A-1AQ            Problem:  D         "portname" string overflowed with unusually long host-domain6         name, causing stack overflow and system crash.           Solution:   ?         Limit the size of the portname string to 64 characters.   N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Oct 2001 03:18:48 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>O Subject: Re: CETS2001 presentations posted (non-technical, Keynote and General) - Message-ID: <87u1x8y63r.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   ( "Ken Farmer" <kfarmer@tru64.org> writes:  G > I hate to say this but Netscape users may have a problem (tested with G > Netscape 4.7). I converted PowerPoint presentations to .htm but guess L > what...suprise, suprise...they only work with Internet Explorer.  I'm just. > going to bite my tongue and not comment.  ;|  , Killing the javascript would help as well...   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 13:07:02 -0500 - From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) . Subject: Re: Cheap Itanium Systems for OpenVMS3 Message-ID: <YASPGBGeV+Ke@eisner.encompasserve.org>   q In article <20011009132129.25129.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com>, Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> writes: . > Anyone is asking Compaq / HP if we will have  > cheap systems to run OpenVMS ?1 > I am saying like those small Proliant/Netserver 
 > servers.      Ask question.        Get answer.    	    Smile.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 17:23:10 -0400* From: "Paul A. Jacobi" <nospan@nospam.com>. Subject: Re: Cheap Itanium Systems for OpenVMS1 Message-ID: <X0Kw7.183$RL6.1275@news.cpqcorp.net>   ; "Fabio Cardoso" <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message   I >>> Any idea of an Itanium Notebook with the possibility to run OpenVMS ?   J The current Itanium CPUs requires 130 Watts of power!  The Compaq ProLiantK DL590/64 Itanium system highly recommends the use of 220V AC power.  Unless K you want to carry around a 50lb. battery, Itanium CPUs are not suitable for 
 notebooks.  L Intel has stated that for future generations of Itanium, performance will be" optimized at the expense of power.  K Intel's first acceptance hurdle is to replace it's current Xeon IA32 server K CPUs with IA64 Itanium CPU.  There are no Xeon notebook systems, so I would ' not expect an Itanium notebook systems.   K At some point in the future, a future generation IA-64 will migrate down to E the Pentium space.  When that happens, you might see Itanium notebook 1 systems, but that probably at least 5 years away.   F At the moment, I suspect Intel is quite happy with segmenting Xeon andK Itanium at the server market, Pentium at the desktop, low-power Pentium for 
 the notebook.      Paul A. Jacobi Compaq Computer Corporation ! OpenVMS Systems Group, ZKO3-4/U14  110 Spitbrook Road Nashua, NH 03062-2698  Email: Paul.Jacobi@compaq.com    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 17:59:56 GMT 2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)( Subject: Re: Creating a Larger Dump File1 Message-ID: <wWGw7.172$RL6.1044@news.cpqcorp.net>   O In article <3bc32d8f.102889857@news.starnet.net>, sfm1115@bjc.org (sfm) writes:   F :I have an Alpha Server 2100 with 2 cpu's in it running OpenVMS 7.2-1.  )   How much physical memory is configured?   ; :I have a dump file in sys$system and it is  149608 blocks.   .   That's enough for a full dump of about 64MB.  > :I have tried to follow the instructions for letting my systemE :re-create its own dumpfile through autogen, but when I do this I get  :the following message:  : ! : Errorlog dumpfile calculations:  : B :        No errorlog dump file modifications would have been made.4 :        Errorlog dumpfile will remain at 50 blocks.    L   I'd guess that the site-specific contents of SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT are M   disabling the adjustment of the size of the dumpfile.  Search MODPARAMS.DAT N   for a DUMPFILE=0 setting, and remove it, and run an AUTOGEN pass through theL   phase that adjusts the file sizes.  Alternatively, you can invoke the tool4   SYS$UPDATE:SWAPFILES.COM to adjust the file sizes.  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 17:17:53 -0400" From: "Hal Kuff" <kuff@tessco.com>' Subject: Re: CSWS Post Method Question? O Message-ID: <A9AC5A0A0ED5400C.B2FD206FF9D29924.D842115FCDF80C0B@lp.airnews.net>   K Mike... that does in fact work... however I can not transfer more than 4096 2 bytes via the post... any ideas on that limitation    ? "Mike Rechtman" <michael.rechtman@digital.com> wrote in message % news:3BC187D1.3AF66EF2@digital.com... C > My understanding is that if you use the POST method you read from - > APACHE$INPUT, not symbols or logical names.  > 4 > Reading input from a TEXTAREA I've used (in BASIC) > ---<code segment>---5 >        open "APACHE$INPUT" for input as file #1%, & " >                 recordsize 8192%
 >     .... >        input #1%, a$
 >     .... > ---<end code segment>--- >  > Hal Kuff wrote:  > > D > >    I see in the install guide that one can configure CSWS to useG > > multi-seqment logical names for large Post Method strings... what I  can't F > > find are the docs that tell you what the logical names are and the > > formats? >  > --G > --------------------------------------------------------------------- G > Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. A > Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* F > Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337D >   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"G > ---------------------------------------------------------------------    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 20:24:34 -0400 ! From: "Airnews" <Kuff@Tessco.Com> ' Subject: Re: CSWS Post Method Question? O Message-ID: <A5460EF086D6A549.31C437194AADA252.FC8E32109BC85274@lp.airnews.net>   J     Ok... sorry about the confusion.. latest is that we can read 4096 byteG buffers.... you can assemble a post buffer greater than 4096 by reading J those buffers until you get an EOF.... however there appears to be a limit of 16384 total post size?     - "Hal Kuff" <kuff@tessco.com> wrote in message I news:A9AC5A0A0ED5400C.B2FD206FF9D29924.D842115FCDF80C0B@lp.airnews.net...  > H > Mike... that does in fact work... however I can not transfer more than 40964 > bytes via the post... any ideas on that limitation >  > A > "Mike Rechtman" <michael.rechtman@digital.com> wrote in message ' > news:3BC187D1.3AF66EF2@digital.com... E > > My understanding is that if you use the POST method you read from / > > APACHE$INPUT, not symbols or logical names.  > > 6 > > Reading input from a TEXTAREA I've used (in BASIC) > > ---<code segment>---7 > >        open "APACHE$INPUT" for input as file #1%, & $ > >                 recordsize 8192% > >     .... > >        input #1%, a$ > >     .... > > ---<end code segment>--- > >  > > Hal Kuff wrote:  > > > F > > >    I see in the install guide that one can configure CSWS to useI > > > multi-seqment logical names for large Post Method strings... what I  > can't H > > > find are the docs that tell you what the logical names are and the > > > formats? > >  > > --I > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- I > > Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. C > > Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* H > > Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337F > >   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"I > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 22:38:45 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> / Subject: Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors , Message-ID: <3BC3B4B4.8AA83A27@videotron.ca>   "Terry C. Shannon" wrote: H > The memory price cuts are nice, but raising CPU prices sends the wrong8 > message. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!  J Who are you to say that it sends the "wrong" message ?  Wasn't the June 25K message straightforwards enough for you to understand that Compaq is out to K kill Alpha and push Itanium at all costs, even if it means that Compaq must66 sacrifice its own existance for the benefit of Intel ?  I The customers Compaq intends to keep on Alpha systems are those with very N large investments and deep pockets who just can't migrate to NT yet. And thoseC customers won't mind paying extra for technology that are stuck on.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 02:44:48 GMTm* From: cjt & trefoil <cheljuba@prodigy.net>/ Subject: Re: Higher prices for Alpha processorss+ Message-ID: <3BC3B64C.95907F8B@prodigy.net>h   JF Mezei wrote:i >  > "Terry C. Shannon" wrote: J > > The memory price cuts are nice, but raising CPU prices sends the wrong: > > message. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong! > L > Who are you to say that it sends the "wrong" message ?  Wasn't the June 25M > message straightforwards enough for you to understand that Compaq is out toSM > kill Alpha and push Itanium at all costs, even if it means that Compaq must!8 > sacrifice its own existance for the benefit of Intel ? > K > The customers Compaq intends to keep on Alpha systems are those with veryeP > large investments and deep pockets who just can't migrate to NT yet. And thoseE > customers won't mind paying extra for technology that are stuck on.f  # Won't mind?  Or will just be stuck?H   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 04:39:35 GMTe4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>/ Subject: Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors > Message-ID: <biQw7.103358$vq.20312590@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  7 "cjt & trefoil" <cheljuba@prodigy.net> wrote in messagen% news:3BC3B64C.95907F8B@prodigy.net...  > JF Mezei wrote:  > >T > > "Terry C. Shannon" wrote: L > > > The memory price cuts are nice, but raising CPU prices sends the wrong< > > > message. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong! > >oK > > Who are you to say that it sends the "wrong" message ?  Wasn't the June  25L > > message straightforwards enough for you to understand that Compaq is out toJ > > kill Alpha and push Itanium at all costs, even if it means that Compaq must: > > sacrifice its own existance for the benefit of Intel ?  K Makes no sense to kill Alpha (and the revenue streams from VMS and, for theaL moment, Tru64 UNIX) when enterprise-class IPF hardware and OS ports won't be/ commercially available for another three years.n  K In a perfect world Compaq would have announced the IPF port as a complementaI to the Alpha strategy rather than publishing Alpha's obituary three years1I prior to the release of EV79. One might surmise that the announcement wasnE structured as it was in order to get the maximum leverage with Intel.d   > > H > > The customers Compaq intends to keep on Alpha systems are those with veryL > > large investments and deep pockets who just can't migrate to NT yet. And thosekG > > customers won't mind paying extra for technology that are stuck on.  >s% > Won't mind?  Or will just be stuck?   G Who's to say that they'll be able to migrate to NT three years down themI road? Didn't a guy named Melling pitch a Risky Affinity Scheme about fivenH years ago? Wasn't the assumption that NT would achieve functional parityI with VMS and Tru64 by Y2K? Didn't happen then, isn't happening now, and IPB venture to guess that it won't happen for quite some time to come.  J Alpha will remain the only game in town for VMS and Tru64 for several moreK years and Compaq can ill afford to sacrifice the revenue stream and marginsv* that accrue from its enterprise platforms.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 01:44:27 -0400-- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> / Subject: Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors:, Message-ID: <3BC3E02A.51F4D013@videotron.ca>   "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:nI > Who's to say that they'll be able to migrate to NT three years down themK > road? Didn't a guy named Melling pitch a Risky Affinity Scheme about fivea > years ago?  L 3 yeasr ? No. But 5-10 years, probably, especially if Compaq/HP work so hardM to ignore VMS and push NT down corporation's throats. Also, Digital bet on NTrN way too early in the game. And Compaq knows that NT isn't quite ready yet, butN my guess is that as soon as they see NT mature enough, they will continue whatN Digital had begun. Until then, everything is on the backburner, including VMS.  ? > Wasn't the assumption that NT would achieve functional paritytK > with VMS and Tru64 by Y2K? Didn't happen then, isn't happening now, and I D > venture to guess that it won't happen for quite some time to come.  L NT need not achieve parity to steal customers and marketshare from VMS. VeryG few actually need all the fancy VMS clustering stuff, and more and moreRJ applications will avoid using features that exist only on VMS because theyH know that they will have to suppport Unix/NT versions of their software.  L > Alpha will remain the only game in town for VMS and Tru64 for several moreM > years and Compaq can ill afford to sacrifice the revenue stream and marginsi, > that accrue from its enterprise platforms.  M But those that Compaq intends to keep are stuck, captive, slaves to Alpha and K Compaq knows it can charge as much as it wants because those customers have ( loyalty levels that permit such gouging.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 18:51:00 GMTy/ From: "James Wilkinson" <elementyl@hotmail.com>sY Subject: Re: Is there a speed penalty if I use T_FLOAT instead of G_FLOAT in my Fortran9XCC Message-ID: <oGHw7.24963$4b5.3547332745@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>   B Petros, I've been using IEEE for years under OpenVMS Alpha with noC appreciable difference in performance.  The only problems come when G interfacing with 3rd party vendors who won't produce an IEEE version oftI their product in the cases where any floating point exchange is required.r   Jamesc   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 20:04:31 GMT   From: jlsue <jlsuexxxz@home.com>  Subject: Re: Itanium and OpenVMS8 Message-ID: <hql6stsq8hv0arlufb68mfsembh5uhkjq7@4ax.com>  A Heck,  If you're going to be that smart, you could just as easilyT? infect the alpha firmware (ever need a floppy to access a Mylex.
 controller?).e  E On Mon, 08 Oct 2001 15:58:08 -0700, David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu>o wrote:   >Alphaman wrote: > A >> Fred Kleinsorge <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> wrote in message - >> news:TCkw7.100$RL6.640@news.cpqcorp.net...VK >> > Uh.  The partition is only used by EFI, and only used for booting.  NoON >> > general runtime access will be allowed except though utilities running onM >> > either EFI or VMS to copy/delete files on it.  You won't see any genericaH >> > FAT32 ACP (at least right now) allowing general access to the FAT32 >> > partition.h >> >( >> > No security problem that I can see. >> >> Fred et. al., >>2 >> Then consider the following simplistic example: >>D >>  - VMS system runs into problems due to firmware/hardware issues. >>K >>  - Person diagnosing system brings system up with PC diagnostic softwarea >> infected with malware.- >>4 >>  - FAT32 partition becomes infected during diags. >sG >and it's all downhill from there.  I agree that anything that providese- >compatibility at any level with BillyWare is P >likely to eventually result in some sort of security problem.    We're not just) >worrying about regular hackers and maybe N >something like boot block viruses - but rather organized crime driven attacks+ >on banks and other financial institutions.-M >And folks like that could conceivably engineer something that was just smart 2 >enough to quickly find and change a few blocks onK >the VMS part of the disk and then delete itself from the FAT32 and memory.nJ >Later who knows what might  execute -  with full privs - as VMS comes up.L >Maybe that would be really really hard to write, but I've got to think that4 >half the guys in VMS engineering could whip this up >in a day or two.  >eN >The repairman leaves and the diligent system operator scans the FAT32 for bad: >stuff.  Too late, the damage is already done - the entireN >system disk is (or should be) suspect at this point.  You can't expect people< >to pull their system disk and lock it up every time there'sG >a hardware problem (although it is beginning to sound like a very goodmK >idea).    But I guess you can expect them to scan it for unwanted changes.oM >I guess what is required is some sort of tripwire like program for VMS which < >could be run after the fact to find this type of intrusion.P >This would  quickly check all the .exe/.olb/.com and other configuration files,O >and scan the FAT32 section,.  So long as that boots from its own, known clean,-P >FAT32 section on the CD, it should be able to do the trick.  And if patches are. >installed on the system the checksum databaseL >could be updated.  Hmm.  I guess that for a simple binary detection of thisM >sort of intrusion all that's really needed is a tiny program on CD that justoP >booted and generated 2 or 3 checksums for the entire system disk outside of theJ >FAT32.  Write the results down.  Let the service guy do his thing, run itM >again.  If anything has changed you have to look harder, otherwise, go ahead 3 >and boot.  On second thought - that wouldn't work,tP >the service guy would probably boot the thing once or twice and that would mess >up the checksums. >O	 >Regards,s >-
 >David MathogR >mathog@caltech.edun   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 13:58:49 -0700 < From: alphaman-nixspam@hsv.sungardtrust.com (Aaron Sakovich)  Subject: Re: Itanium and OpenVMS< Message-ID: <8af17fe1.0110091258.20c40fb@posting.google.com>  h Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message news:<mnNLipfO62O8@eisner.encompasserve.org>... :tJ > > My previous example was of a PC-oriented hardware FSE who knows littleH > > to none about OpenVMS, who's only abilities are to run PC diags whenC > > there's a problem.  This is going to be a very high probabilitytE > > scenario as we start to live with commodity PC processors for our  > > systems. > 6 > That depends on who you hire to do hardware service.   Hewlital ComPaqard.  'Nuf said?a   Aarone   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 22:26:01 -0700a+ From: nilakantan_m@hotmail.com (Nilakantan)m! Subject: Re: Lkwset before CMKRNLr= Message-ID: <f660c23e.0110092126.295ead72@posting.google.com>s   Hi All,eA I am sorry in missing out some of the details which I should haveo posted earlier. F I am facing this problem in OpenVMS 7.2-1(Alpha) and the language I am! using to generate my code is "C".p    C I would like to mention I don't see my software crashing on a stand- alone node.-F The crash is happening on a satellite node of a cluster and crash dump showso4 "Faulting Virtual Address        00000000.0006E010".  @ In my code I included lkwset to lock address 0x6d200 and 0x6e5dfF before cmkrnl and it seems to avoid crash in one satellite node of the6 cluster  but I faced crash in another node which shows4 "Faulting Virtual Address        00000000.0006D390".  @ I feel that my lkwset should have locked this page for me beforeA cmkrnl and this prevent one of my machine from crashing .But I am 4 puzzled why that did not happen in the second node..  C Any suggestion would be of great help.I did look through the wizardtD and porting manual which improved my understanding on locking..but I4 am not able to undertsand the above dual behaviour..     Thanks for your time and help.
 Best Regards,e
 Nilakantan   ------------------------------   Date: 09 Oct 2001 19:22:36 GMT% From: omtsalvage@aol.com (OMTSalvage)n- Subject: Many Q-bus boards available for saleS9 Message-ID: <20011009152236.15502.00003326@mb-fl.aol.com>e  M I currently have a large number of Q-bus VAX boards which I'm looking to selll  D A complete list can be found at http://www.omtsalvage.com/stock.html   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 22:08:57 GMT-) From: ahlstromc@home.com (Chris Ahlstrom)i) Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!n= Message-ID: <ZzKw7.46580$Pr1.13625673@news1.rdc1.tn.home.com>o  F While stuck in the full lotus position, John Karp chanted this mantra:  ( > McAfee tags javascript infinite loops? >  >  > script LANGUAGE="JavaScript">, > function haha()3 > {0 >     while (true)  F "while (true)" seems to be the common element in all of these scripts.   ChrisD   -- 2# Kick Microsoft off of the Internet!r   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 20:20:23 -0400m) From: Steve Martin <ecprod@bellsouth.net>d) Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!! - Message-ID: <3BC39447.67EB9AB1@bellsouth.net>    rick stuart wrote: > F > Looked like an example of a way to introduce a virus to linux folks.J > More of a worm I guess.  Scared me to death!  It was just funny except I6 > just realised how much fun he could have had though.  ; Not a virus nor a worm, just a highly irritating JavaScript  infinite loop:   function haha()9 {     while (true) >        window.alert("** WARNING ** Virus Scan has detected theC alt.config virus on your hard drive. If you have recently opened annH email or newsgroup message and see this alert your system is infected.") }   = The above function gets embedded in an HTML document which ish; in turn embedded in the message. No virus content, no self--: replication, no propogation, no damage, just irritation as0 thousands of warning boxes pop up on the screen.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 01:24:17 GMT 4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>) Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!7> Message-ID: <5rNw7.102435$vq.20161864@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  6 "Steve Martin" <ecprod@bellsouth.net> wrote in message' news:3BC39447.67EB9AB1@bellsouth.net...- > rick stuart wrote: > >,H > > Looked like an example of a way to introduce a virus to linux folks.L > > More of a worm I guess.  Scared me to death!  It was just funny except I8 > > just realised how much fun he could have had though. > = > Not a virus nor a worm, just a highly irritating JavaScript. > infinite loop:  L Associating "highly irritating" with "JavaScript" qualifies one for a job in( the Department of Redundancy Department.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 20:33:43 -0500+ From: Christopher Smith <csmith@amdocs.com>D) Subject: RE: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!iL Message-ID: <3B55D7F383B0D31197D9009027541CBF1170DD4D@cmiexch1.cmi.itds.com>  $ I guess Shannon Knows Javascript. :)   Chrisn  ! Christopher Smith, Perl Developerr Amdocs - Champaign, IL   /usr/bin/perl -e '? print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");i 'o  s   > -----Original Message-----; > From: Terry C. Shannon [mailto:terryshannon@mediaone.net]   > > Associating "highly irritating" with "JavaScript" qualifies  > one for a job in* > the Department of Redundancy Department.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 02:00:13 GMTt4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>) Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!! > Message-ID: <NYNw7.102617$vq.20188296@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  8 "Christopher Smith" <csmith@amdocs.com> wrote in messageF news:3B55D7F383B0D31197D9009027541CBF1170DD4D@cmiexch1.cmi.itds.com...& > I guess Shannon Knows Javascript. :) >   J Actually, no. But that's the first entry I've had in "What Do I Rename the) Newsletter THIS Time Around" contest! ;-}o   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 21:07:01 -0500+ From: Christopher Smith <csmith@amdocs.com>i) Subject: RE: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!eL Message-ID: <3B55D7F383B0D31197D9009027541CBF1170DD4E@cmiexch1.cmi.itds.com>  L Actually you might consider Shannon Knows Jujitsu, or possibly Shannon KnowsK Spanish.  AFAIK Jujitsu has never been acquired by another martial art, nor0I has Spanish been acquired by another language (depending on who you ask).:  G If you used, for instance Shannon Knows HP, you might have to change itd4 again in a couple of years to Shannon Knows Dell. :)   Regards,   Chris   ! Christopher Smith, Perl Developerg Amdocs - Champaign, IL   /usr/bin/perl -e '? print((~"\x95\xc4\xe3"^"Just Another Perl Hacker.")."\x08!\n");a '?  a   > -----Original Message-----; > From: Terry C. Shannon [mailto:terryshannon@mediaone.net] ) > Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 9:00 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comm+ > Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!e >  >  > : > "Christopher Smith" <csmith@amdocs.com> wrote in messageH > news:3B55D7F383B0D31197D9009027541CBF1170DD4D@cmiexch1.cmi.itds.com...( > > I guess Shannon Knows Javascript. :) > >d > @ > Actually, no. But that's the first entry I've had in "What Do  > I Rename the+ > Newsletter THIS Time Around" contest! ;-}j >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 22:53:35 -0400e- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>F) Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!o, Message-ID: <3BC3B82D.BC7B65EC@videotron.ca>   > "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:o > 6 > DO NOT OPEN THIS, MCAFEE VIRUSSCAN JUST TAGGED IT!!!  K Netscape on a mac didn't do anything.  So I saved the message and looked atn
 its contents. N Looks like the type of brank where you create a file that contains the text ofN a very serious error message so that when the user types it, he thinks that it6 was the TYPE command that generated the error message.   Here is the juicy part:t  > <!doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"> <html> <head> <script LANGUAGE="JavaScript"> function haha()u {m    while (true)y        window.alerL        t("** WARNING ** Virus Scan has detected the alt.config virus on your hard drive.-M        If you have recently opened an email or newsgroup message and see thiss  alert your system is infected.") }g	 </script>f </head>p <body onLoad="haha()"> </body>3 </html>3  8 Will you crawl around the hard disk, if Marilyn monthly 3 types the network?  Who will we exclude after Joie B9 formats the filthy bit bucket's opinion?  Isabelle, stillh   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 05:09:07 GMTc" From: GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com>) Subject: Re: My balls itch IS A VIRUS!!!!!+ Message-ID: <3BC3D933.BC3BC827@cumulus.com>t   Paul Sture wrote:  > E > In article <9pv8l8$17mb$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>, Bill Gunshannon wrote:tA > > In article <YDEw7.99638$vq.19678686@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>,c; > >  "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes:w > > |> > > |>; > > |> DO NOT OPEN THIS, MCAFEE VIRUSSCAN JUST TAGGED IT!!!h > > |> > >eH > > Use a real MUA and NewsReader and you don't have to worry about it!!; > > Never been infected by Email or News and never will be.o > >t > > bill > > D > Didn't touch me either :-) My newsreader simply displayed the HTMLD > text.  Attachments simply get dumped to a separate directory, too. > I > I had a telephone engineer here yesterday to fix a fault on my line, somD > as soon as he was finished I grabbed my messages as a line test... > I > The outcome of which was he left clutching a printout of the url for myrE > mail/newsreader. OK it shouldn't be that hard to convert an Outlook'- > user, but it was _immensely_ satisfying :-)  >   E I just shut off javascript in nutscrape is all.  Never use it anyway.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 20:47:02 +0100. From: Edd Blackburn - Stout <EDD@INGENSYS.ORG>/ Subject: Re: Netcraft is now able to detect VMSf9 Message-ID: <iss.6fa1.3bc35438.50e6a.1@mx2.west.saic.com>e  > On Tuesday, October 9, 2001, at 12:23 , Larry Kilgallen wrote:   >tC > In article <3bc2bd53@news.kapsch.co.at>, eplan@kapsch.net (Peter t > LANGSTOEGER) writes: >hE >> Would be great. But http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/accuracy.html#os 6 >> still doesn't list OpenVMS as 'reliably detectable' >rC > To be listed there, VMS would have to be reliably detectable when-> > running WASD, OSU, Purveyor and Netscape server too, right ? > B > Two of those products are not going to be changed by the vendor. >c    4 It detected my VAX cluster running WASD and TCPware  (http://www.ingensys.org)h  L http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph/?mode_u=off&mode_w=on&site=www.ingensys. org&submit=Examine  I The site www.ingensys.org is running HTTPd-WASD/7.2.0 OpenVMS/VAX SSL on   OpenVMS    Edd    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 22:55:27 -0400, From: "Sharkonwheels" <readmy@signature.com> Subject: Re: New to VMSr@ Message-ID: <2POw7.31624$WX5.983907@e3500-atl2.usenetserver.com>  < "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message  news:3BC25A26.BB859AD@fsi.net... > Ram Guy wrote: > >t
 > > Hi there,  > > I > > I am trying to install Open VMS (Hobbyist) on a Digital Alpha AXP PCIi 33. IcL > > can't get the system to boot from the CD. Looks like I am not setting up thew@ > > boot options properly and I am new to this hardware and VMS. > >oL > > Is there a step by step guide to setup and run VMS on such systems? I amJ > > trying to find the reuired information from Open VMS Faqs but have not found  > > anything yet.v >  > You may have missed:? > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/openvms_faq.html#ALPHA13U    G It's do-able, but a severe pain in the a$$! I did it a few months back.w Things I had to do:o  7 A. Upgrade firmware, making sure I had the SRM firmwarei4 B. Use the Multia Kit (yes - it works with AXPpci33)  A As to that FAQ, it says no PCI cards are supported, but my S3 PCIr@ video card works nice with DECwindows (yes, I also have the MoBo( with PS/2 mouse and keyboard connectors)  A IDE interface is NOT supported under VMS (is under the free *nix,- though)-   Config on my machine: 4 AXPpci 166MHz, jumpered to 200MHz (works flawlessly)6 1MB Cache RAM (I believe. Parted out some 486 boards!)1 128MB RAM (4 x 32Mb 72-pin. Parity RAM required!)  4.3GB Seagate SCSI-II drive3! Toshiba 4x 512-byte block SCSI CDm S3 PCI video cardb DEC ISA ethernet cards   Ram -e  E If you need an ISA Digital ethernet card, let me know. I have a stashlB that I can let you have 1 from for what I paid for them + shipping/ (they were like $8-10 ea, and I bought like 6!)w     Tony tonym at compusource dot net   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:02:01 -05001+ From: "David Lee" <teamosan@inet.att.co.kr>o% Subject: NT connection to VMS machinee+ Message-ID: <9q0jpe$rvc$1@news2.kornet.net>@  J Does anyone know how connect my PC/Laptop (NT) to my Alpha ES-40, which isL running VMS 7.2. The Alpha is currently connected to the Fast Ethernet, partJ of another network.  I want to be able to connect either my laptop/desktopK to the same Fast Ethernet so they all can exchange files, at least ftp frome one machine to the other.>B 1) What are the things that I need to do for completing this task?L 2) Are there any software that needed to be load on either machine and where
 can I get it?l 3) How do you set it up? Thank you in advance DavidF   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 07:56:15 +02002 From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>) Subject: Re: NT connection to VMS machinei' Message-ID: <3BC3E2FF.BBAC3526@home.nl>   % 1. The ES40 should have TCPIP runningTA 2. Configure the ES40 as a FTP server (@sys$manager:tcpip$config)mM 3. Use the standard FTP utility of Windooz, or get a more intelligent packagen like WS-FTPg look at http://www.ipswitch.comf     David Lee wrote:  L > Does anyone know how connect my PC/Laptop (NT) to my Alpha ES-40, which isN > running VMS 7.2. The Alpha is currently connected to the Fast Ethernet, partL > of another network.  I want to be able to connect either my laptop/desktopM > to the same Fast Ethernet so they all can exchange files, at least ftp froma > one machine to the other.oD > 1) What are the things that I need to do for completing this task?N > 2) Are there any software that needed to be load on either machine and where > can I get it?s > 3) How do you set it up? > Thank you in advance > David    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 22:35:16 +0100o% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>u: Subject: Official statement of support (VAX 7000, HSZ etc)* Message-ID: <3BC36D94.2BEC187F@virgin.net>  F In reply to outstanding questions I have with Compaq regarding supportF of VAX 7000 series machines I today received a copy of a letter signedD by Michael Capellas. In it he states categorically that full support> will not be discontinued for any enterprise product (includingD storage) for a minimum of five years after date of last sale. I haveE asked how this is consistent with the retiral of software support for B the HSZ70 and HSZ22 controller which has already been announced asD Capellas, for once, seems to be quite explicit. It might be a rebukeA for whoever took the storageworks cost cutting decisions. I won't D quote the letter without checking it is ok for public release but it> seems to be a standard letter which will go out to people with4 specific support queries. Anyone else seen this yet?   --
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 16:47:09 -05001 From: "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com>a> Subject: Re: Official statement of support (VAX 7000, HSZ etc)8 Message-ID: <9pvrdb$jeb$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com>  G Didn't get a letter from MC but our local Compaq service people told usuL yesterday that it was OK to renew our hw contract for the VAX 7000s we have.H Last week they said they would have to research the issue.  I guess they did.   Dave...o  2 "Alan Greig" <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote in message$ news:3BC36D94.2BEC187F@virgin.net... >iH > In reply to outstanding questions I have with Compaq regarding supportH > of VAX 7000 series machines I today received a copy of a letter signedF > by Michael Capellas. In it he states categorically that full support@ > will not be discontinued for any enterprise product (includingF > storage) for a minimum of five years after date of last sale. I haveG > asked how this is consistent with the retiral of software support forsD > the HSZ70 and HSZ22 controller which has already been announced asF > Capellas, for once, seems to be quite explicit. It might be a rebukeC > for whoever took the storageworks cost cutting decisions. I won't F > quote the letter without checking it is ok for public release but it@ > seems to be a standard letter which will go out to people with6 > specific support queries. Anyone else seen this yet? >w > -- > Alan Greig >l >m   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 20:50:51 -0300 (EST)0 From: becherini@vortex.ufrgs.brt* Subject: One more disk for a Alphaserver ?, Message-ID: <01100920505190@vortex.ufrgs.br>  M From:	VORTEX::BECHERINI    "fabio.becherini@ufrgs.br"  5-OCT-2001 17:39:15.91o To:	INFO-VAX@MVB.SAIC.COMh CC:	FABIO.BECHERINIr% Subj:	One more disk for a Alphaservern  : Received:	by vortex.ufrgs.br (V5.0A-1, OpenVMS V7.2 Alpha)+ From:		Fabio Becherini <becherini@ufrgs.br>o Reply-to:	<becherini@ufrgs.br>< Comments:	@vortex.ufrgs.br, vortex(46.451)::, psi%........::2 References:	BR, TCHE, UFRGS, CPD network, Cia-INFO- Organization:	Cia-INFO /DRS /CPD-UFRGS /UFRGSn< ____________________________________________________________    	 	Hi guys,   6 	We have an AlphaServer 800 5/500 running OpenVMS V7.28 	with 3 (three) "9.0 (nine) Gb Ultra Wide SCSI Hot Swap"' 	disks, no RAID, with 27 Gb total area.0  * 	As the Alphaserver has 4 slots for disks,$ 	we have a free slot for 1 more disk 	in the main cabinet, right ?h   	The questions are:I  # 		- How great can be this last diskn# 		  in this cabinet ? (9-18-36 ...)w    		- How much $$$ does it costs ?   	Thanks & Best regards,n  <   __________________________________________________________=  |                                                          |r=  | Fabio Becherini                 Fabio.Becherini@ufrgs.br |-=  |                              Webmaster, Postmaster UFRGS |s=  |                 Grupo de Suporte a Sistemas Operacionais |b=  | Centro de Atendimento a Incidentes de Seguranca da UFRGS |a=  |     Coordenacao da Cia-INFO (c) Ophicin@ das Informacoes | =  |__________________________________________________________|t=  |                                                          |-=  |    CPD-UFRGS - Centro de Processamento de Dados da UFRGS |o=  |                                Divisao de Rede e Suporte |!=  |                Universidade Federal do Rio Grande do Sul |c=  |                     (55)(51) 3316-5041 / 3331-1215 (fax) |e=  |   Rua Ramiro Barcelos, 2574 - Porto Alegre - RS - Brasil | =  |__________________________________________________________|    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 23:02 CDT' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) , Subject: Re: OpenVMS Backup:  7GB in 3:30 hs, Message-ID: <9OCT200123021498@gerg.tamu.edu>  2 Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> writes... }Do you have this ?j } ( }My OpenVMS servers are backing up about. }7GB in 3:30 hrs. For me it is extremely slow.2 }I am using a DDS3 device, recording in DDS2 tapes }in COMPACTION mode.    > If you switch to a DDS3 tape it will go faster. The DDS drives@ apparently match their data transfer rate to the tape, so a DDS2= tape records at about the same speed in a DDS2, DDS3, or DDS4iC drive (I'm not certain, but it may be the case that any tape alwayseC goes through the drive at about the same speed, and the head alwayslB spins at about the same speed - the difference is then the rate at@ which it puts the bits onto the tape and therefore the recordingF density). So to get the advantages of the higher "DDS number" you needG to use the tape of that number. Using a tape of any specific DDS numbercG in a higher numbered drive gains you something in the little to nothingg range, in my experience.  F A DDS4 drive with DDS4 tapes would be even faster. If you actually getG a 2:1 compression ratio, DDS4 would do 7GB in under an hour including a D verification pass (without one, which I don't recommend, it would beA under half an hour) if it maintains streaming. (Uncompressed data C recording rate is something near 2.4MB/sec, or about 4.8MB/sec withr 2:1 compression.)k  A Which brings up the question of how the drives the data is on are C connected to the system the tape drive is on. If they are local youtB can do beter than you are. If they are connected via, for example,A 10-base-T then you can't do any better (since that maxes out at ai? bit over 1MB/sec throughput) - in such a case your 3.5 hours isuE about the best you can do with a verification pass since that roughly-1 matches the maximum throughput of the connection.0   --- Carl   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 21:21:17 -0400! From: "Airnews" <Kuff@Tessco.Com>3 Subject: Re: Purveyor Users?O Message-ID: <8BC4762204A1A53F.0E48AA32BF3EA9D7.BDC53CC2BEBE250F@lp.airnews.net>n  2     That would be great... we could use a dll !!!!    5 "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in messaget7 news:d7791aa1.0110080522.55b2152f@posting.google.com...i/ > "Hal Kuff" <kuff@tessco.com> wrote in messagelK news:<B85EF75AA609678F.64924C63AABEB6D6.4283912880362539@lp.airnews.net>...aK > > It appears the standard mailbox size for purveyor is 1024 bytes..... ismK > > there a way to change the size of the mailbox that purveyor creates fort themJ > > user? I'm also looking for the documentation on the 'registry' entries thatL > > one can create in the *.db file.... perhaps there is something in there? >rI > i don't believe the 1024 can be modified ... as for your other question9G > i can give you a company that recently helped us write a purveyor dll G > and they do have someone on staff that knows purveyor and would offern
 > support ...a >t > Tel:    +64 4 917-6670 > Fax:    +64 4 917-6671" > E-mail: william.tonkin@sss.co.nz >u/ > Visit us on the Web at:  http://www.sss.co.nzm   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 14:05:20 -0700 < From: alphaman-nixspam@hsv.sungardtrust.com (Aaron Sakovich)" Subject: Re: Question on VMS Virus= Message-ID: <8af17fe1.0110091305.52716c88@posting.google.com>n   alphaman-nixspam@hsv.sungardtrust.com (Aaron Sakovich) wrote in message news:<8af17fe1.0110040559.1ca80847@posting.google.com>... S > david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk wrote in message news:<9pcjm6$k67$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>...e > > ? > > Could you give a pointer to where these VMS hack sites are.  > >  > > David Webb > 7 >  http://www.phreak.org/archives/security/faqs/vax.txtp > D > It's dated (with all the standard implications and disclaimers dueF > dated material), but this is a common file that is the root of other > docs on the net. >  > Aaron   @ Even better than that, I HIGHLY recommend taking a gander at the? latest OpenVMS Times -- page 3.  "DEF CON 9 Hackers' ConventionCD declares OpenVMS 'cool' and 'unhackable'"  Also read the white paper1 at http://www.pointsecure.com/ on the same topic..  D I'm glad SOMEONE is telling folks about this kind of stuff.  Thanks,B Sue!  Now if only other people knew about it.  I for one am makingB sure this article gets stuffed under everyone's nose, along with a< reference to the fine article by Gartner with their explicit recommendation regarding IIS.p  D Sue -- any way this article might be extracted from the PDF file andC posted as an HTML page that we could easily reference with a simpleo  URL?  This sure is good stuff...   Cheers,S AaronD   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 16:14:25 -0400 - From: "Richard D. Piccard" <piccard@ohio.edu> ' Subject: Re: Strange privilege problemst( Message-ID: <3BC35AA0.F134550B@ohio.edu>   How about trying   $ DIR/SECUR,  = on the troublesome directory file, and all outer directories.                    RDP      Martin Hunt wrote:  G > On Tue, 09 Oct 2001 00:41:39 GMT, martin.hunt@inl.co.nz (Martin Hunt)r > wrote: >"E > >I am having weird problems when I turn off privileges. If I have arD > >protection violation, I can't access my directory until I turn onG > >BYPASS or READALL privilege. See the following log for an example. Iw  > >am running VMS V7.1 on a VAX: > >r >sE > I should have asked - which patch fixes this? I have a feeling this/H > VAX is missing things like the latest VAXF11X patch. I have just tried7 > some of the commands on another VAX, and it works ok.    --B ==================================================================B Dick Piccard                           Academic Technology ManagerB piccard@ohio.edu                                 Computer ServicesB http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~piccard/                Ohio University   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 21:03:43 GMTo) From: martin.hunt@inl.co.nz (Martin Hunt)8' Subject: Re: Strange privilege problems 8 Message-ID: <3bc35f19.175502018@news.wlg.netlink.net.nz>  E On Tue, 9 Oct 2001 14:44:15 +0200 (CEST), "Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists"  <gotfryd@stanpol.com.pl> wrote:N   >a9 > Larry, John, Philippe: checking the commands in Martinsi  >example displays, we seen that:4 >- this is not symbol problem. The "DIR" command was0 > not changed between "works" and "doesn't work"9 >- protection setting *can* be uhm... hard to resolve :),o< > but I cannot find a way that dynamically changes depending5 > of success of failure of *previous* command ! (haved5 > hope noone suspects "DIR:==IF $STATUS THEN..." ;)!)c8 >- what the "priv" and "nopriv" symbol does we seen with: > SHOW PROC/PRIV. And be aware that between the successful4 > DIR (without parameters) and second *the same* DIR6 > is only one command - the DIR 'protected_directory'.  D Yes, that's what puzzles me - why does the command behaviour change?   Some further information:2   $ sh log/full progdisk>    "PROGDISK" [exec] = "YAK$DKA500:[PROGRAMMERS.]" [concealed] (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE) i.e., a rooted logical.8  ( $ dir/sec dka500:[000000]programmers.dir   Directory DKA500:[000000]a  ? PROGRAMMERS.DIR;1          3  23-DEC-1997 09:55:07.66  [SYSTEM]t         (RWE,RWED,RE,RE)  ) $ dir/sec dka500:[programmers]martinh.dirr   Directory DKA500:[PROGRAMMERS]  D MARTINH.DIR;1              3  10-AUG-2001 11:01:40.30  [DEV,MARTINH]         (RWED,RWE,RE,RE)   Total of 1 file, 3 blocks.  F The priv command is a symbol which calls a simple command procedure to@ set the provilege. This allows me to include a parameter, to set4 individual parameters. Nopriv calls the routine with% NOALL,TMPMBX,NETMBX as the parameter.w  F Attempting to delete the file results in the following Security Alert:  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  10-OCT-2001 09:28:14.94  %%%%%%%%%%%% Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on YAK 1 Security alarm (SECURITY) on YAK, system id: 2754-' Auditable event:          Object access2? Event information:        directory lookup request (IO$_ACCESS,  IO$_MODIFY, IO$_ DELETE, or IO$_ACPCONTROL)1 Event time:               10-OCT-2001 09:28:14.93v" PID:                      00008204! Process name:             MARTINH.! Username:                 MARTINH:' Process owner:            [DEV,MARTINH]y! Terminal name:            TNA1387oF Image name:               YAK$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]DELETE.EXE Object class name:        FILE" Object owner:             [SYSTEM]9 Object protection:        SYSTEM:, OWNER:, GROUP:, WORLD:t: Directory name:           _YAK$DKA500:[000000]000000.DIR;1! Directory ID:             (4,4,0)u+ Directory entry:          PROGRAMMERS.DIR;1n! Access requested:         EXECUTE " Sequence key:             3047B72CE Status:                   %SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV, insufficient privilege or  object protection violation   8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  10-OCT-2001 09:28:14.95  %%%%%%%%%%%% Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on YAKM1 Security alarm (SECURITY) on YAK, system id: 2754i' Auditable event:          Object accesso? Event information:        directory lookup request (IO$_ACCESS,i* IO$_MODIFY, IO$_DELETE, or IO$_ACPCONTROL)1 Event time:               10-OCT-2001 09:28:14.95f" PID:                      00008204! Process name:             MARTINHo! Username:                 MARTINH,' Process owner:            [DEV,MARTINH]M! Terminal name:            TNA1387sF Image name:               YAK$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]DELETE.EXE Object class name:        FILE" Object owner:             [SYSTEM]9 Object protection:        SYSTEM:, OWNER:, GROUP:, WORLD:n: Directory name:           _YAK$DKA500:[000000]000000.DIR;1! Directory ID:             (4,4,0)f+ Directory entry:          PROGRAMMERS.DIR;1e! Access requested:         EXECUTE!" Sequence key:             3047B733E Status:                   %SYSTEM-F-NOPRIV, insufficient privilege or2 object protection violation     (yes, the message appears twice)   >o > Really - looks like bug... ! >D: > Martin - why you not check the appriopiate directory in:* >http://ftp.support.compaq.com/public/vms/) > for *all* patches marked "Rating: 1" ??r >l  C I started doing that. But it's not that easy to tell if a patch hasbB already been installed. I am checking images against other systemsF which appear to have patches installed (they have the appropriate .TXT@ files in SYS$UPDATE) using ANA/IMAGE/INT - so far, no difference  found. I will continue checking.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 17:31:28 -0500H! From: Dan Moore <dmoore@sosu.edu>a/ Subject: Telnet DCL Routines for HTML Mail Msgs ( Message-ID: <3BC37ABF.8BD8C8D9@sosu.edu>  & --------------2CCBD8F0C897BFBAD7389005* Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit   
 Greetings,       How does one attempt a telnet or rlogin session in a com file? The sessions that I attempt to open are stooping at the telnet command and wanting input from the terminal. I need to know how toc redirect the input to the text com file when telnet or rlogin is invoked(like it was doing before).A       Here is what I want to do: VMS apparently can not send html mime encoded messages. Well, big deal, sending a message is essentially a telet session to a smtp port anyway. We have a routine thath can generate scripts and have the data be placed in the body of the mail messages (in html format). I think this is a simple answer dealing with SYS$INPUT.   7 $!*****************************************************r* $! MAIL HTML MESSAGE VIA TELNET TO PORT 257 $!***************************************************** @ $TELNET MAIL.SOSU.EDU/PORT=25                     ! (Hangs here) HELO MAIL FROM:<dmoore@sosu.edu>i RCPT TO:<DMOORE> DATA From: <dmoore@sosu.edu>t To: <DMOORE>
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 <br>Dan Moorea( <br>Director of Administrative Computing* <br>Southeastern Oklahoma State University+ <br>1405 North Fourth Avenue&nbsp; PMB 4230D+ <br>Durant, Oklahoma&nbsp;&nbsp; 74701-0609O9 <br>Phone: (580) 745-2006&nbsp;&nbsp; Fax: (580) 745-20077 <br>&nbsp;</html>O  ( --------------2CCBD8F0C897BFBAD7389005--   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 20:48:11 -0400  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>3 Subject: Re: Telnet DCL Routines for HTML Mail Msgse5 Message-ID: <1011009202803.3657A-100000@Ives.egh.com>5  J   This message is in MIME format.  The first part should be readable text,K   while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools._?   Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info.r  & --------------2CCBD8F0C897BFBAD7389005* Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=us-ascii. Content-ID: <1011009202803.3657C@Ives.egh.com>  $ On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Dan Moore wrote:   > Greetings, >  >     How does one attempt a telnet or rlogin session in a com file? The sessions that I attempt to open are stooping at the telnet command and wanting input from the terminal. I need to know how toe > redirect the input to the text com file when telnet or rlogin is invoked(like it was doing before).  >  >     Here is what I want to do: VMS apparently can not send html mime encoded messages. Well, big deal, sending a message is essentially a telet session to a smtp port anyway. We have a routine thatu > can generate scripts and have the data be placed in the body of the mail messages (in html format). I think this is a simple answer dealing with SYS$INPUT.  > 9 > $!*****************************************************t, > $! MAIL HTML MESSAGE VIA TELNET TO PORT 259 > $!*****************************************************tB > $TELNET MAIL.SOSU.EDU/PORT=25                     ! (Hangs here) > HELO > MAIL FROM:<dmoore@sosu.edu>n > RCPT TO:<DMOORE> > DATA > From: <dmoore@sosu.edu>  > To: <DMOORE> > Subject: Test3 > MIME-Version: 1.0 + > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-asciiS! > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit_7 > Content-Disposition: inline; filename="filename.html"-# > Content-Base: http://www.sosu.edu2 >  > <HTML> > ) >    <H1> HTML MAIL FROM VMS! COOL! </H1>R > 	 > </HTML>u >  > .n >  > QUIT > $! > $!END2 >  >  > 	 > Thanks!d >  > Dan   = Try C-Kermit as your telnet client.  You may have to turn offj< telnet option negotiations or it might hang while connecting? to the SMTP server.  Then use the transmit command to send yourr> file.  (I don't know if you can transmit sys$input: in kermit,< but you can put your message in a separate file and transmit@ that.  You probably will want to do a series of INPUT and OUTPUTD commands (with error checking) to transmit the SMTP control messages> (i.e. HELO, MAIL FROM:, RCPT TO:, DATA, and QUIT), looking forD appropriate responses (messages starting with 220 after you connect,> 250 after HELO, MAIL FROM:, RCPT TO: and the "." that ends the6 data, 354 after the DATA command, and 221 after QUIT.)  < We used to send all our mail that way (through a serial line; null-modem'ed to a Linux box) before we had direct internetc? access.  Since then we've installed MX on our VMS systems whichi> lets you send a mail from a file using the MX_SITE_IN program.   --   John Santosu Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539  ( --------------2CCBD8F0C897BFBAD7389005--   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 20:25:30 -0500iC From: "Craig A. Berry" <craig.berry@nospam.SignalTreeSolutions.com>s3 Subject: Re: Telnet DCL Routines for HTML Mail Msgs I Message-ID: <craig.berry-2208BE.20253009102001@newsrump.sjc.telocity.net>n  & > On Tue, 9 Oct 2001, Dan Moore wrote:  G >     Here is what I want to do: VMS apparently can not send html mime b >     encoded messages.   H If you mean VMS MAIL, that's true, but if you mean VMS, there a lots of + different ways to do this.  See the FAQ at r  ; http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/openvms_faq.html#MAIL9u  G which discusses attachments specifically, but the difference between a hB MIME body and a MIME attachment is obviously just a matter of the  disposition you give it.  E I've also posted examples here in the past of using the Perl modules rH MIME::Lite and Net::SMTP, either of which is a far better tool than DCL $ for doing what you are trying to do.   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Oct 2001 11:43:21 -0700w' From: jbecker@ui.urban.org (Jim Becker). Subject: TELNETSYM Error= Message-ID: <c113b52c.0110091043.5df799d0@posting.google.com>g  D On an Alpha running VMS 6.2-1H3 and UCX 4.1 ECO 8 (sigh), I have oneD particular telnetsym queue that for the last few weeks has routinely logged entries like this: D Tue Oct  9 13:52:13 2001, open_socket_ast invoked with bad IOSB 660:" connect to network object rejected  
 Similarly: $ telnet 4.22.172.30 9100s( %TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying ... 4.22.172.304 %TELNET-E-CONNFAIL, Failed to connect to remote host4 -SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected   The queue looks like this:= Printer queue 5_EAST, stopped, on ALPHA1::"4.22.172.30:9100",n$ mounted form LAND16C (stock=DEFAULT)=   <Printer 5_EAST is an HP 5 SI MX located outside room 5124>6>   /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FLAG,FORM=HPLC13 (stock=DEFAULT)) /LIBRARY=HPu*   /OWNER=[SYSTEM] /PROCESSOR=UCX$TELNETSYM% /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S) /RETAIN-   The printer is an HP LaserJet.  C Like the sign on my wife's desk says, "What did you right before itcD stopped working all by itself?" This problem kicked in several weeks9 ago, but I can't find any changes in queue setup, printer.E configuration, UCX configuration, or elsewhere that would explain the7 change in behavior..  C The printer is on the same IP subnet as the Alpha, so I can't blamelC any routers. The Alpha can ping the printer. I can ping the printerMF from a Windows 2000 box, and I can successfully telnet to port 9100 onD the printer from a Windows 2000 box, even while the Alpha's attempts
 are rejected.a  ; A sequence of stop/queue/reset, power reset on the printer,e8 start/queue does not even temporarily clear the problem.  > Just to keep things complicated, once in a blue moon the queueE successfully delivers a print job to the printer, but this lasts only ? for a few moments. So far, this happens only outside the normalpD workday, but sometimes the problem persists throughout the overnight
 hours too.  F I have no evidence that anything else on the network has been tying upF the printer (especially since I CAN make connections to it from places other than the Alpha).  F We upgraded the printer's firmware to see if that would help, but that produced no change in behavior.   A I've experimented with UCX$TELNETSYM_IDLE_TIMEOUT, setting values D anywhere from 30 seconds to 10 minutes, without improvement. (Yes, IF stopped and started the queue when I changed the value of the logical,E and yes, the UCX 4.1 ECO 8 release notes indicate that the logical isdB recognized.) However, I need to get a successful connection in the3 first place before the idle timeout applies, right?o  C I'll be upgrading to UCX 4.2 ECO 4 in a few weeks -- probably worthdC doing whether it helps or not with the current problem, but I'm nottF betting large sums that this is going to do the trick. The printer hadE been printing merrily under UCX 4.1 ECO 8 for quite some while beforev the funny stuff began.   Any inspirations?,   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 19:08:15 GMTe2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: TELNETSYM Error1 Message-ID: <zWHw7.174$RL6.1104@news.cpqcorp.net>h  g In article <c113b52c.0110091043.5df799d0@posting.google.com>, jbecker@ui.urban.org (Jim Becker) writes:eE :On an Alpha running VMS 6.2-1H3 and UCX 4.1 ECO 8 (sigh), I have one=E :particular telnetsym queue that for the last few weeks has routinely  :logged entries like this:E :Tue Oct  9 13:52:13 2001, open_socket_ast invoked with bad IOSB 660:C# :connect to network object rejectedo .. :Similarly:  :$ telnet 4.22.172.30 9100) :%TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying ... 4.22.172.30 5 :%TELNET-E-CONNFAIL, Failed to connect to remote hosto5 :-SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejectedl  G   Um, so why is this the fault of TCP/IP Services when the printer has  %   rather apparently "gone walkabout"?d  I   Also, are you sure you're getting to the IP host that you think you're PL   getting to?  (Disconnect or power down the printer and see if the message G   you see when you attempt to connect to it changes.  See if there is aeA   host with a duplicate network address lurking, in other words.)    :Any inspirations?  G   The "usual stuff" is in topic (1020) of the Ask The Wizard area, withoH   the most common problem being (what you've already tried) the back-offE   and retry interval for the connections.  (UCX$LPD_RETRY_INTERVAL ons>   older releases, TCPIP$LPD_RETRY_INTERVAL on V5.0 and later.)  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:51:11 +1000r/ From: "Phil Howell" <phowell@snowyhydro.com.au>; Subject: Re: TELNETSYM Error2 Message-ID: <MJOw7.2229$6q1.128840@ozemail.com.au>  4 "Jim Becker" <jbecker@ui.urban.org> wrote in message7 news:c113b52c.0110091043.5df799d0@posting.google.com...2F > On an Alpha running VMS 6.2-1H3 and UCX 4.1 ECO 8 (sigh), I have oneF > particular telnetsym queue that for the last few weeks has routinely > logged entries like this:vF > Tue Oct  9 13:52:13 2001, open_socket_ast invoked with bad IOSB 660:$ > connect to network object rejectedH this is the error I get when other systems are connecting to HP printersI (If you print to it from windows 2000 check that you have latest drivers)2 >4 > Similarly: > $ telnet 4.22.172.30 9100E* > %TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying ... 4.22.172.306 > %TELNET-E-CONNFAIL, Failed to connect to remote host6 > -SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected >(> can you connect on the standard telnet port from windows 2000?= enter a "/" to show the current configuration of the jet card G and try setting the timeout parameter on the jet card to a higher value  use "quit" to save the config:F you can set telnetsym$debug_flags (or something like that) to get moreF logging information on the alpha end but it looks to me like a network problem:7 or another system is not releasing the printer properlyp <rest snipped> Phil   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 03:17:12 GMT0- From: "Richard L. Dyson" <rickdyson@home.com>0 Subject: Re: TELNETSYM Error( Message-ID: <3BC3BDB3.1D064245@home.com>   Hoff Hoffman wrote:k > i > In article <c113b52c.0110091043.5df799d0@posting.google.com>, jbecker@ui.urban.org (Jim Becker) writes:tG > :On an Alpha running VMS 6.2-1H3 and UCX 4.1 ECO 8 (sigh), I have one%G > :particular telnetsym queue that for the last few weeks has routinelyK > :logged entries like this:G > :Tue Oct  9 13:52:13 2001, open_socket_ast invoked with bad IOSB 660:p% > :connect to network object rejected_ > ..
 > :Similarly:T > :$ telnet 4.22.172.30 9100+ > :%TELNET-I-TRYING, Trying ... 4.22.172.30 7 > :%TELNET-E-CONNFAIL, Failed to connect to remote hostr7 > :-SYSTEM-F-REJECT, connect to network object rejected  > H >   Um, so why is this the fault of TCP/IP Services when the printer has' >   rather apparently "gone walkabout"?E > J >   Also, are you sure you're getting to the IP host that you think you'reM >   getting to?  (Disconnect or power down the printer and see if the messageYI >   you see when you attempt to connect to it changes.  See if there is arC >   host with a duplicate network address lurking, in other words.)T >  > :Any inspirations? > I >   The "usual stuff" is in topic (1020) of the Ask The Wizard area, witheJ >   the most common problem being (what you've already tried) the back-offG >   and retry interval for the connections.  (UCX$LPD_RETRY_INTERVAL onp@ >   older releases, TCPIP$LPD_RETRY_INTERVAL on V5.0 and later.)  K 	I too found the systems I am working on now with these errors.  As many ast 14,000 per week!  J 	The adjustments of the RETRY intervals, though you want to use the TELNETJ ones not the LPD ones when you are using the Telnet Symbiot, all seemed to help my case quite a bit.  E.g.,g  3 	"TCPIP$TELNETSYM_RETRY_INTERVAL" = "0 00:00:45.00"o1 	"TCPIP$TELNETSYM_IDLE_TIMEOUT" = "0 00:00:30.00"   E 	Another logical I found useful was TCPIP$TELNETSYM_NO_OPCOM to True.uJ It suppresses the Opcom msgs, but leaves the msg in the queue-specific log files9) so it is there if you want to look at it.A   Rick   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2001 18:22:00 GMT7/ From: "James Wilkinson" <elementyl@hotmail.com>t' Subject: Re: Unaltered DCL command lineeC Message-ID: <cfHw7.24953$0t3.3540151397@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>n  4 "Hoff Hoffman" <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote8 >   Directly reading the recall buffer is not supported.  K I know but it is the only mechanism I know of to get the entire unprocessedV
 command line.a  L >   Directly reading the recall buffer would probably require you to performD >   some level of DCL symbol substitution before you can process the command.  K I have no interest in doing any symbol substitution, in fact, that is why ItH want the original command line, as I would like to know which symbol was used.*  L >   The DCL symbol substitution is something you really don't want to tangleL >   with implementing if you can at all avoid it -- there are three distinctL >   symbol substitution operations that you would have to contend with here:J >   the DCL verb substitution, the DCL ampersand substitution, and the DCL >   apostrophe substitution.   I completely agree!   L >   The DCL parsing routines are available, as are various other approaches. >:6 >   The C getarg call is available in the C libraries.  I I am using a Fortran environment but that does beg the question, does theLE main program need to be in C.  Anyhow I don't recall if this would do K anyhow, and if it did, I would of course be curious how it accomplished the  task.r  K >   It is far easier for us if you state what you want to do -- in addition0L >   to citing an existing routine from another platform -- as we can key offH >   the problem statement rather than attempting to figure out what thisL >   specified routine from some other platform(s) does and how it works, andK >   then figuring out how to map this into what you want to do.  (You might L >   be familiar with a particular call from a particular other platform, but >   I might not be.)  K Without going into all the details, I have a large set of programs that use H the command to determine which course of action to take.  So let's say I have the program MAIN.  
 doof := $main: foo := $main bar := $main  1 In the code the program does a GETARG(0, command)g  I (Docs at http://www.compaq.com/fortran/docs/vf-html/azsumm/rfgetarg.htm )r  J then checks if whether then command entered was equal to doof, foo, bar orK other and acts accordingly.  Yes there are probably better ways to go abouti8 it, however this is more of a "can it be done" question.  I > :So is there a way to obtain the *unaltered* full DCL command line that*& > :works whether interactive or batch? >*I >   For some definitions of "unaltered", lib$get_foreign is the callback.;  I Not this one.  Unaltered means unaltered.  :-)  LIB$GET_FOREIGN lacks the;J command and CLI$GET_VALUE is post symbol substitution.  Reading the recallL buffer works quite well with the exception of when the command is run within a command file.u   Jamess   ------------------------------  * Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 15:59:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Lorin@LockTrack.com7# Subject: Unaltered DCL command line;. Message-ID: <01100915593912@lto.locktrack.com>  L >> >   For some definitions of "unaltered", lib$get_foreign is the callback.  L >> Not this one.  Unaltered means unaltered.  :-)  LIB$GET_FOREIGN lacks theM >> command and CLI$GET_VALUE is post symbol substitution.  Reading the recall O >> buffer works quite well with the exception of when the command is run within  >> a command file.   >> James  ? Try this:  stat := CLI$GET_VALUE( '$LINE', %DESCR line_buffer )0  L (my example's in Pascal, but will work similarly in C, FORTRAN, whatever...)  D See p. CLI-11 of the OpenVMS Utility Routines Manual which discussesE the special CLI entities '$VERB' and '$LINE'... the latter looks justHE like what you want, right down to the "don't substitute the symbols",gE etc.  I was just re-reading this manual for another reason when I sawn your post.  Hope this helps.   regards,   Lorinx   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 00:19:45 GMTt/ From: "James Wilkinson" <elementyl@hotmail.com>t' Subject: Re: Unaltered DCL command lineCC Message-ID: <BuMw7.25099$D_3.3641387293@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>o   <Lorin@LockTrack.com> wrote:D > >> >   For some definitions of "unaltered", lib$get_foreign is the	 callback.o >oJ > >> Not this one.  Unaltered means unaltered.  :-)  LIB$GET_FOREIGN lacksH > >> the command and CLI$GET_VALUE is post symbol substitution.  ReadingF > >> the recall buffer works quite well with the exception of when the commandh" > >> is run within a command file. >w
 > >> James >)A > Try this:  stat := CLI$GET_VALUE( '$LINE', %DESCR line_buffer )d >mA > (my example's in Pascal, but will work similarly in C, FORTRAN,t whatever...) >sF > See p. CLI-11 of the OpenVMS Utility Routines Manual which discussesG > the special CLI entities '$VERB' and '$LINE'... the latter looks justfG > like what you want, right down to the "don't substitute the symbols",!G > etc.  I was just re-reading this manual for another reason when I sawS > your post.  Hope this helps.  L Thanks Lorin, however as I mentioned above this does not return the originalL command line, the line is already upcased and symbol substitution performed.G Try your sample program as a foreign command to see this.  Also in thatRH case, $VERB will return the last verb entered, not even from the current command line invocation.   JamesE   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Oct 2001 03:31:47 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> Subject: Re: VMS<->Tru64- Message-ID: <87pu7wy5i4.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   7 "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> writes:d  E > So yeah, X11 security has always been marginal, and easily spoofed. 0 > It was not designed to be a secure connection.  A Use the source Luke. It was never intended for *real* use at all.t   -- y< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.n@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 20:39:58 -04000 From: "Island Computers" <dbturner@islandco.com>8 Subject: Re: Warranty on ES45 reduced from 3 years to 1?/ Message-ID: <ts75n14v53mv23@news.supernews.com>n   The "Turnip" comes to mind--   DT    H > > According to the Inquirer a Compaq internal document states that theE > > ES45 will come with a one year warranty instead of the three yearnF > > warranty provided with the ES40. Anyone confirm or deny this? DoesJ > > Compaq have an employee specifically tasked to dream up ways of making> > > their products seem more PC like and less Enterprise like? >,I > Worse than that, as we've been getting three year warranties on all ourgI > PC purchases for a long time now anyway (emphatically none of these are  > ever bought from Compaq).0 >.J > The Inquirer has its headline right though, "Compaq has a cunning plan".J > I've been wondering about a Capellas-Baldric connection for some time... >i > Graham > --K > -------------------------------------------------------------------------r > Graham Allan; > School of Physics and Astronomy - University of MinnesotavK > -------------------------------------------------------------------------p   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.563 ************************