1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 11 Oct 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 566       Contents: Re: A free VMS implementation? Re: A free VMS implementation? Re: A free VMS implementation? Re: A free VMS implementation? Re: A free VMS implementation? Re: A free VMS implementation? Re: A free VMS implementation? Re: A free VMS implementation? Re: ALGOL and 1022 database  Re: ALGOL and 1022 database  Re: ALGOL and 1022 database  Alphaserver 1000a  Re: Alphaserver 1000a  Re: Alphaserver 1000a  Re: Alphaserver 1000a  Re: Alphaserver 1000a  Re: Big Alpha Deal Re: Big Alpha Deal& CDD-F-ERRSTART, Error starting Session* Re: CDD-F-ERRSTART, Error starting Session* Re: CDD-F-ERRSTART, Error starting Session Changing hosts member typeE Re: Compaq revenue goes down $1 Billion, warns of loss in 3rd Quarter 
 Re: CSWING
 Re: CSWING DCPS and Native PCL  Re: DCPS and Native PCL  Re: DCPS and Native PCL ( Ghostview doesn't work under OpenVMS 7.3, Re: Ghostview doesn't work under OpenVMS 7.3, Re: Ghostview doesn't work under OpenVMS 7.3& Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors& Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors& Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors& Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors How to obtain IP address Re: How to obtain IP address Re: How to obtain IP address> RE: how to right-justify a string within a DCL f$fao directive! Re: It wouldn't happen on VMS ... ! Re: It wouldn't happen on VMS ... - Labsystems Sample Manager: out of OpenVMS/RDB  LICENSE-I-EXCEEDED for VAX-VMS Re: Lkwset before CMKRNL MAIL$SYSTEM_FLAGS -- my problem 6 Re: MAIL$SYSTEM_FLAGS logical - where in documentation Re: Memo:  Big Alpha Deal ( Re: Microsoft Security Slipup of the Day( Re: Microsoft Security Slipup of the Day( Re: Microsoft Security Slipup of the Day( Re: Microsoft Security Slipup of the Day( Re: Microsoft Security Slipup of the Day( Re: Microsoft Security Slipup of the Day Mounting CD ROM error  Re: Mounting CD ROM error " Re: OpenVMS at Orbit computer expo" Re: OpenVMS at Orbit computer expo" Re: OpenVMS at Orbit computer expo" Re: OpenVMS at Orbit computer expo+ Re: Phone question..(dialing to other user) + Re: Phone question..(dialing to other user) * Public accessable VMS machine for testing?. Re: Public accessable VMS machine for testing?. Re: Public accessable VMS machine for testing?> Re: RMS rollback problem after VMS migration 7.1-1 to  7.2-1H17 Re: SEDT problems on RedHat 7.1 (was Re: EDT for Linux) : Re: Shannon The Omniscient (Re: Renaming SKC (was "itch")) Re: Sharing a ssytem dump file* Re: Telnet DCL Routines for HTML Mail Msgs Re: Unaltered DCL command line Re: Unaltered DCL command line Re: Unaltered DCL command line VAX 6400 is down Re: VAX disaster tolerance Re: VMS 5.4 supported?
 Re: VMS 7.2-2 
 Re: VMS 7.2-2  VMS on DVD? ; VMScluster + fibrechannel  + HSG80 : How to balance disks ? ? RE: VMScluster + fibrechannel  + HSG80 : How to balance disks ? ? RE: VMScluster + fibrechannel  + HSG80 : How to balance disks ?  Re: VMSMail APIs?  Re: VRC15-KA Info?( We've burned our boats say Compaq and HP, Re: We've burned our boats say Compaq and HP, Re: We've burned our boats say Compaq and HP, Re: We've burned our boats say Compaq and HP [DCPS, UCX] short questions  Re: [DCPS, UCX] short questions  Re: [DCPS, UCX] short questions C Re: [OpenVMS] V7.2 VAX satellite doesn't find V7.3 Alpha bootserver   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 06:34:02 GMT ! From: "ClaudeVMS" <unix@dev.null> ' Subject: Re: A free VMS implementation? @ Message-ID: <u3bx7.53324$w62.32878331@news1.denver1.co.home.com>    Check out http://www.freevms.org    5 "Miguel Mendez" <flynn@energyhq.org> wrote in message 7 news:3111aeb4.0110101043.670b9093@posting.google.com...  > Hi there,  > G > This idea has been floating around in my head for some time, now that B > Compaq seems to null interest in both Alpha and VMS technology IH > thought about creating an open source replacement for VMS. I know someE > time ago a project called FreeVMS was started but it seems it never F > made it too far. I've not much technical knowlegde of the insides ofB > the system, I'm more of a unix kernel hacker, but VMS has always9 > fascinated me whenever I had the opportunity to use it.  > E > What I'd like to know is where could I get hold of some information G > about how to implement a VMS like system, not just DCL, but the whole H > thing and make it portable across not only Alpha, but also Intel, etc.G > Also, I'd be glad to know if there would be people interested in this B > project; how the VMS community feels about it, who would like to > contribute, etc. >  > Thanks in advance. > 5 > For e-mail replys please write to: flynn1@inicia.es  >  > Yours, >       Miguel Mendez    ------------------------------   Date: 11 Oct 2001 07:14:21 GMTB From: bertrand@perceval.cnam.fr (BERTRAND =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jo=EBl?=)' Subject: Re: A free VMS implementation? 6 Message-ID: <slrn9sahm9.ild.bertrand@perceval.cnam.fr>   Le 10 Oct 2001 11:43:28 -0700 - Miguel Mendez <flynn@energyhq.org> crivait : 
 >Hi there, > F >This idea has been floating around in my head for some time, now thatA >Compaq seems to null interest in both Alpha and VMS technology I G >thought about creating an open source replacement for VMS. I know some D >time ago a project called FreeVMS was started but it seems it neverE >made it too far. I've not much technical knowlegde of the insides of A >the system, I'm more of a unix kernel hacker, but VMS has always 8 >fascinated me whenever I had the opportunity to use it. > D >What I'd like to know is where could I get hold of some informationF >about how to implement a VMS like system, not just DCL, but the wholeG >thing and make it portable across not only Alpha, but also Intel, etc. F >Also, I'd be glad to know if there would be people interested in thisA >project; how the VMS community feels about it, who would like to  >contribute, etc.   ( 	http://freshmeat.net/projects/freevms ? 	http://freevms.free.fr ?   	 	Regards,    	JKB   --  F <Lameth> Centre Support Linux a votre service *BONJOUR* *voie fleurie*A Pour te faire baiser la gueule, tape [1] Pour aller te faire voir @ ailleurs, tape [2] pour rester en attente sur #linuxfr, tape [3]I -+- Lameth in Guide du linuxien pervers - "Un channel qui a du rpondant"    ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:45:39 +0000 (UTC) 9 From: Roar =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thron=E6s?= <roart@nvg.ntnu.no> ' Subject: Re: A free VMS implementation? - Message-ID: <9q3m7j$ikp$1@tyfon.itea.ntnu.no>   3 Hoff Hoffman <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote:   I :   That would be news to me -- OpenVMS Engineering has a new generation  K :   Alpha server (EV7-based) under development and new releases of OpenVMS  H :   Alpha under development and a large port of OpenVMS over to Itanium 9 :   underway.  For some of what we are up to, please see:   2 :     http://www.openvms.compaq.com/presentations/  $ I think it depends on marketing too.  I :   We asked about open-sourcing OpenVMS at the San Diego sympoisium and  L :   rather surprisingly got negative feedback from the customers.  (I would B :   not have believed it had I not been sitting in the same room.)   Did anyone of them state why?   6 Would OpenSourcing drive customers away to IBM or Sun?J (IBM itself seems to be OpenSourcing some of their stuff and embracing the8 OpenSource Linux, and Sun is almost opening Solaris, see, http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/source/)  J : :I know some time ago a project called FreeVMS was started but it seems  : :it never made it too far.    0 :   Probably because the project is huge.  HUGE.  G It also depends on whether FreeVMS 1.0 will be aimed at being more like  VMS 4.x, 5.x, 6.x or 7.x. M (VMS Internals and Data Structures 4.4 is ca 800 pages, 5.2 is ca 1400 pages. A The source code base has also grown a bit, but I can not find any  references at the moment)   L : :I've not much technical knowlegde of the insides of the system, I'm more L : :of a unix kernel hacker, but VMS has always fascinated me whenever I had  : :the opportunity to use it.   E :   If you have a hobbyist license (free) and a hobbyist distribution E :   (cheap) and a VAX box, an Alpha box, or (with a version of a VAX  D :   emulator such as the one from SRI or one of the other emulators E :   that are in various stages of development) a PC box, you can run  C :   OpenVMS on it.  For very little investment.  Used VAX and used  1 :   Alpha boxes are available quite cheaply, too.   & That might not be suited for everyone.  I A lot of people might just want to develop a free and opensource VMS just  like it was done on Unix.   
 -Roar Throns    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:00:23 GMT 4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>' Subject: Re: A free VMS implementation? > Message-ID: <XBhx7.105741$vq.21729778@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  3 "Roar Throns" <roart@nvg.ntnu.no> wrote in message ' news:9q3m7j$ikp$1@tyfon.itea.ntnu.no... 5 > Hoff Hoffman <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote:  > J > :   That would be news to me -- OpenVMS Engineering has a new generationL > :   Alpha server (EV7-based) under development and new releases of OpenVMSI > :   Alpha under development and a large port of OpenVMS over to Itanium ; > :   underway.  For some of what we are up to, please see:  > 4 > :     http://www.openvms.compaq.com/presentations/ > & > I think it depends on marketing too. >    Well stated!   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:09:31 -0500 * From: Patrick Spinler <pspinler@yahoo.com>' Subject: Re: A free VMS implementation? ) Message-ID: <3BC5B62B.8F113F63@yahoo.com>    Hoff Hoffman wrote:  >  >   Related pointers:  >  >     URLs:   >       http://www.free-vms.org/ >   B The information on prior FreeVMS projects I recall Richard LevetteH having on this site appears to no longer be easily available.  At least,1 I couldn't find it in several minutes of surfing.   F I seem to recall at least one useful source library for emulating some; VMS libraries/system calls, which I can't seem to find now.    -- Pat   --  ?       This message does not represent the policies or positions 1 	     of the Mayo Foundation or its subsidiaries. 3   Patrick Spinler			email:	Spinler.Patrick@Mayo.EDU '   Mayo Foundation			phone:	507/284-9485    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:25:22 -0600 ( From: emanuel stiebler <emu@ecubics.com>' Subject: Re: A free VMS implementation? + Message-ID: <3BC5C7F2.E4392CD3@ecubics.com>    Hoff Hoffman wrote:  > E >   If you have a hobbyist license (free) and a hobbyist distribution D >   (cheap) and a VAX box, an Alpha box, or (with a version of a VAXC >   emulator such as the one from SRI or one of the other emulators D >   that are in various stages of development) a PC box, you can run1 >   OpenVMS on it.  For very little investment.     < But what, if I like to use VMS on an emulation commercialy ?A How to get a VMS license, without a serial number, model number ?    cheers   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 09:51:15 -07001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) ' Subject: Re: A free VMS implementation? = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0110110851.37dc4cb2@posting.google.com>   k hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) wrote in message news:<_11x7.243$RL6.1689@news.cpqcorp.net>... I >   We asked about open-sourcing OpenVMS at the San Diego sympoisium and  L >   rather surprisingly got negative feedback from the customers.  (I would B >   not have believed it had I not been sitting in the same room.)  F I attended that same Birds-of-a-Feather session, and although I recallB a concern that open access to VMS sources might make it easier forB crackers, removing some of the "security through obscurity" VMS inD theory might enjoy today, the overall response from the group seemedB to be quite positive, as I recall.  Benefits were seen in terms of? education, allowing more people to learn more about VMS and VMS D Internals (which would make it possible for more people to find (andE even possibly suggest fixes for) bugs in VMS), plus the potential for D someone to take the effort to port VMS to other architectures (folksC were thinking IA-32 or maybe AMD's 64-bit architecture at the time, @ not IA-64).  One option discussed was that Compaq might consider@ releasing a CD with a buildable version of VMS code (which wouldF presumably contain at least a workable, usable subset of the full VMS'
 features).  C I can imagine that folks from VMS Engineering could come out of the D same BOF with very different impressions, perhaps even feeling quiteE threatened by the prospect of an open-source VMS, in several aspects, 
 including:> o  Potential loss of control over the direction of developmentF efforts, or potential splintering of VMS directions and focus, and theC potential for multiple competing VMS distributions as we see in the  Linux space D o  Giving away trade secrets for software algorithms that were never. patented, or making it easier to evade patentsC o  Ability for people to run VMS in commercial applications without E buying software licenses or hardware from Compaq, when such sales pay . VMS engineers' salaries and justify their jobs  E A compromise that might help a lot at this time of uncertainty in the : user base (due to the Alpha annoucement and the planned HPF acquisition) might be for Compaq to set up a source escrow arrangementE for VMS to ensure that if Compaq, HP, or their successors ever decide C to stop VMS development in the future (or sell it to Microsoft like F Alpha to Intel), that the complete sources and build environment wouldA become available immediately under an open source license at that A point in time.  That would provide significant reassurance to VMS E users that VMS would survive even the worst-case scenario users might  imagine.C ------------------------------------------------------------------- C Keith Parris | parris at encompasserve dot org | VMS consulting on: C Clusters, Disaster Tolerance, Internals, Performance, Storage & I/O    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 12:54:09 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) ' Subject: Re: A free VMS implementation? 3 Message-ID: <ynigmLMbc5su@eisner.encompasserve.org>   q In article <cf15391e.0110110851.37dc4cb2@posting.google.com>, keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) writes: m > hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) wrote in message news:<_11x7.243$RL6.1689@news.cpqcorp.net>... J >>   We asked about open-sourcing OpenVMS at the San Diego sympoisium and M >>   rather surprisingly got negative feedback from the customers.  (I would  C >>   not have believed it had I not been sitting in the same room.)  > H > I attended that same Birds-of-a-Feather session, and although I recallD > a concern that open access to VMS sources might make it easier forD > crackers, removing some of the "security through obscurity" VMS inF > theory might enjoy today, the overall response from the group seemedD > to be quite positive, as I recall.  Benefits were seen in terms ofA > education, allowing more people to learn more about VMS and VMS F > Internals (which would make it possible for more people to find (and0 > even possibly suggest fixes for) bugs in VMS),  F My recollection of that same meeting is that there was agreement thoseC benefits could be obtained with a wider availability of the current 
 listings kit.   D The major _disadvantage_ of raw source availability is the resultingD "locally modified" copies of VMS.  I would expect someone in Keith'sG position, especially, would enjoy the fact that when a client says they E have a machine running VMS it is really running (some version of) the  official DEQ images.  A Those who were not around for the "good old days" of Tops-10 just C don't appreciate the feeling of running your own heavily customized 8 version of the operating system on all your own KL10s...  E ...only to have management tell you the company was being merged with I an even larger company whose KL10s all ran _their_ own heavily customized   version of the operating system.  C I think it took the decline of TOPS-10 (I didn't stay there) before B there was any resolution of that quagmire -- two different sets ofD customers each depending on particular modifcations to the operatingG system.  Don't even _think_ about accepting a new OS release from DEC !t   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:58:01 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>S$ Subject: Re: ALGOL and 1022 database8 Message-ID: <1vjastcqtciaedqoi6mu08fp95tq9o6fls@4ax.com>  1 On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 21:38:22 GMT, "Zane H. Healy" # <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com> wrote:r  4 >Arthur Krewat <krewat@bartek.dontspamme.net> wrote:O >> The tape is up at http://pdp10.kilonet.org/files/fakedecus.lib10.0126.tap.gzr7 >> (right click on the link and select "Save link as").S >i+ >Hopefully I can give it a try later today.v >e >> BTW, what IS 1022?w >sI >Well, my mind is feeling a little foggy today, but IIRC, it's a database J >that started on the PDP-10 and was later ported to the VAX and Alpha (forG >OpenVMS).  I believe it's still around.  Or to put it another way it's   D Yes renamed 1032 on VMS and it is still around. One of the 1022/1032C engineers monitors comp.os.vms (added a crosspost) so maybe they'llr spot this thread.r  @ I think I recall reading many years ago that 1022 was the serial= number of the KL-10 the database was originally developed on.t  F I know with certainty that the 1022 TOPS-20 documentation was still on2 the shelf at my previous employer three years ago.      I >probably as scary as "College Ingres" on a UNIX system (which I actuallys >was using in '94-95). >E >			Zane >    -- Alan   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 06:04:11 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)e$ Subject: Re: ALGOL and 1022 database3 Message-ID: <ByyZFzW6yjUu@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  ` In article <1vjastcqtciaedqoi6mu08fp95tq9o6fls@4ax.com>, Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> writes:  B > I think I recall reading many years ago that 1022 was the serial? > number of the KL-10 the database was originally developed on.m  F Whereas I believe it means the software ran on (PDP-)10s and (PDP-)20s too (2).  1022.n   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:35:06 -0400 ' From: Jim Becker <jbecker@ui.urban.org> $ Subject: Re: ALGOL and 1022 database, Message-ID: <3BC591FA.555F6097@ui.urban.org>   Larry Kilgallen wrote: > b > In article <1vjastcqtciaedqoi6mu08fp95tq9o6fls@4ax.com>, Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> writes: > D > > I think I recall reading many years ago that 1022 was the serialA > > number of the KL-10 the database was originally developed on.i > H > Whereas I believe it means the software ran on (PDP-)10s and (PDP-)20s > too (2).  1022.   A Fuzzy memory: Didn't they also have their annual conference on orr about 10/22 each year?   --
 Jim Becker+ The Urban Institute (http://www.urban.org/):' Encompass (http://www.encompassus.org/)+. ESILUG (http://encompasserve.org/lugs/esilug/)   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:30:18 +0200M. From: Dennis Grevenstein <dennis@pcde.inka.de> Subject: Alphaserver 1000a, Message-ID: <3BC54A8A.4A34A6E4@pcde.inka.de>   Hi,   B I just got an old Alphaserver 1000a 4/266 and I want to run VMS onC this beast. It came with an additional graphics card, an ATI Mach64i. and I  found out that it should work with VMS.? I know that such a server does not really need a graphics card,-= but this Mach64 is better than the onboard chip, so it's nice- to have anyway.,C Unfortunately it seems that I need a newer ECU version (I currentlyc5 have 1.8) and the CFG file for this card: ISA6400.CFG52 Can anyone here tell me where to get these things?( I did a search, but I could not find it.   Then another question:= Is anybody out there in Germany who has RAM and storage works.. harddisk shells for this Alphaserver for sale?   TIAf Dennis   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:05:01 +0200 , From: Theo Jakobus <Theo.Jakobus@iaf.fhg.de> Subject: Re: Alphaserver 1000a) Message-ID: <3BC552AD.4010603@iaf.fhg.de>a   Dennis Grevenstein wrote:t   > Hi,  > D > I just got an old Alphaserver 1000a 4/266 and I want to run VMS onE > this beast. It came with an additional graphics card, an ATI Mach64M0 > and I  found out that it should work with VMS.A > I know that such a server does not really need a graphics card,I? > but this Mach64 is better than the onboard chip, so it's nicek > to have anyway.DE > Unfortunately it seems that I need a newer ECU version (I currently 7 > have 1.8) and the CFG file for this card: ISA6400.CFGe4 > Can anyone here tell me where to get these things?* > I did a search, but I could not find it. >  > Then another question:? > Is anybody out there in Germany who has RAM and storage worksf0 > harddisk shells for this Alphaserver for sale? >  > TIA- > Dennis >    First start with information: = http://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/Alpha/systems/as1000a/docs8  Next check for firmware updates:B http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/readmes/as1000a.html     Regards, -- 1  ; ***********************************************************; *                                                         *n; *  Theo Jakobus                                           *n; *  Fraunhofer-Institut fuer Angewandte Festkoerperphysik  *e; *  Tullastr. 72                                           * ; *  D-79108 Freiburg                                       *r; *  Germany                                                *i; *  Phone:   +49-(0)761-5159-325                           *t; *  FAX :    +49-(0)761-5159-200                           *t; *  e-mail:  Theo.Jakobus@iaf.fhg.de                       * ; *  http://www.iaf.fhg.de                                  *s; *                                                         *l; ***********************************************************    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:34:46 +0200 . From: Dennis Grevenstein <dennis@pcde.inka.de> Subject: Re: Alphaserver 1000a, Message-ID: <3BC567B6.A8ED1AA8@pcde.inka.de>   Theo Jakobus wrote:r >  > First start with information: ? > http://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/Alpha/systems/as1000a/docsa" > Next check for firmware updates:D > http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/readmes/as1000a.html  = I don't need a firmware update. I need the EISA configurationh; utility disk and the CFG file for the Mach64 graphics card.    Dennis   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:04:15 GMT?1 From: "Kari Keronen" <kari.keronen@radiolinja.fi>l Subject: Re: Alphaserver 1000a2 Message-ID: <01c1524c$d4bf3f20$9b0ba8c0@rlhkikker>  G I have ECU 1.11 Eisa Config diskette that seems to include isa6400.cfg. K If its files survive zipping and sending via email, I can send it to you ifp	 you want.w   -Kari-  9 Dennis Grevenstein <dennis@pcde.inka.de> wrote in article # <3BC54A8A.4A34A6E4@pcde.inka.de>...y > Hi,s > D > I just got an old Alphaserver 1000a 4/266 and I want to run VMS onE > this beast. It came with an additional graphics card, an ATI Mach64k0 > and I  found out that it should work with VMS.A > I know that such a server does not really need a graphics card,t? > but this Mach64 is better than the onboard chip, so it's nice  > to have anyway. E > Unfortunately it seems that I need a newer ECU version (I currentlys7 > have 1.8) and the CFG file for this card: ISA6400.CFGo4 > Can anyone here tell me where to get these things?* > I did a search, but I could not find it. >  > Then another question:? > Is anybody out there in Germany who has RAM and storage worksF0 > harddisk shells for this Alphaserver for sale? >  > TIA. > Dennis >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:58:01 -0700V. From: Derek Haining <Derek.Haining@Compaq.com> Subject: Re: Alphaserver 1000a) Message-ID: <3BC5DDA9.4CB2A00@Compaq.com>s   Kari Keronen wrote:   I > I have ECU 1.11 Eisa Config diskette that seems to include isa6400.cfg.cM > If its files survive zipping and sending via email, I can send it to you ife > you want.m >  > -Kari- >x; > Dennis Grevenstein <dennis@pcde.inka.de> wrote in articlea% > <3BC54A8A.4A34A6E4@pcde.inka.de>...  > > Hi,h > > F > > I just got an old Alphaserver 1000a 4/266 and I want to run VMS onG > > this beast. It came with an additional graphics card, an ATI Mach64s2 > > and I  found out that it should work with VMS.C > > I know that such a server does not really need a graphics card, A > > but this Mach64 is better than the onboard chip, so it's nice  > > to have anyway. G > > Unfortunately it seems that I need a newer ECU version (I currently 9 > > have 1.8) and the CFG file for this card: ISA6400.CFGn6 > > Can anyone here tell me where to get these things?, > > I did a search, but I could not find it. > >h > > Then another question:A > > Is anybody out there in Germany who has RAM and storage works:2 > > harddisk shells for this Alphaserver for sale? > >q > > TIA@
 > > Dennis > >n   Just a FYI,   N There may be two different ECU disks for these beasts: one that works well for  J OpenVMS and Tru64 Unix, and one that works for Windows NT.  If you use theG wrong one, you will get strange boot errors (at least I did with Tru64)l complainingV that no console was found.  L I ran into this while configuring a 4100, and the fellow who helped me solve itK was quite aware of this problem.  He said that it had been around for quitee
 some time.   -Derek Haining  Derek.Haining@Compaq.comn   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:06:52 -0400-; From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com>0 Subject: Re: Big Alpha Dealp$ Message-ID: <3bc5c3c9$1@news.si.com>  L >This is a revised version of an article that first appeared on 2 October in >the following forme >e6 >http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20011002S0005   I like where the article says:  F >"Government customers will come to us with problems, and we'll take aJ building-block approach to beat their requirements >with our resources and, the resources of our partners," Lipkin says.  I I would have expected that to read "meet their requirements".  However, IlI can just imagine Compaq beating (up on) them until they get the idea theyd don't require Alphas.o --A Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.com A Smiths Aerospace                          tillman at swdev.si.comd= 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to prevent < Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@"8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:58:47 GMT 4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> Subject: Re: Big Alpha Dealc> Message-ID: <bdkx7.105891$vq.21879317@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  F "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com> wrote in message news:3bc5c3c9$1@news.si.com...K > >This is a revised version of an article that first appeared on 2 Octobere in > >the following formk > >u8 > >http://www.informationweek.com/story/IWK20011002S0005 >e  > I like where the article says: >eH > >"Government customers will come to us with problems, and we'll take aL > building-block approach to beat their requirements >with our resources and. > the resources of our partners," Lipkin says. >1K > I would have expected that to read "meet their requirements".  However, I K > can just imagine Compaq beating (up on) them until they get the idea they  > don't require Alphas.i  L Such a scene is unimaginable in Nashua or in the Marvel Mansion in Marlboro.  As for Houston, ya never know...   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:05:51 GMTm, From: "mcammarata" <mike.cammarata@home.com>/ Subject: CDD-F-ERRSTART, Error starting Sessione> Message-ID: <j2fx7.144132$Xz1.20718519@news1.rdc1.md.home.com>  .     I restored an image copy of vms 6.2-1H3 to# a new alpha.  All works except DTR.r+ Get CDD-F-ERRSTART, Error Starting Session.t  
 DMU works.  
 Any ideas?   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:22:47 GMTr, From: "mcammarata" <mike.cammarata@home.com>3 Subject: Re: CDD-F-ERRSTART, Error starting Sessions> Message-ID: <H2hx7.145156$Xz1.20846512@news1.rdc1.md.home.com>   Found the problem.F The TP_Server did not have a log file in sys$journal for this scsnode.= $ Mcr lmcp create logfile sys$journal:system$gamma.lm$journalo   Where gamma is the scsnode.       7 "mcammarata" <mike.cammarata@home.com> wrote in messagec8 news:j2fx7.144132$Xz1.20718519@news1.rdc1.md.home.com...0 >     I restored an image copy of vms 6.2-1H3 to% > a new alpha.  All works except DTR.n- > Get CDD-F-ERRSTART, Error Starting Session.f >e > DMU works. >e > Any ideas? >g >i >    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 22:03:09 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>3 Subject: Re: CDD-F-ERRSTART, Error starting Session - Message-ID: <87pu7uff4y.fsf@prep.synonet.com>e  . "mcammarata" <mike.cammarata@home.com> writes:  - > Get CDD-F-ERRSTART, Error Starting Session.y  ) Did you reinstall Common Data Supository?e   -- r< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  / Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:13:08 +0200 (MET DST)t& From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de># Subject: Changing hosts member typei6 Message-ID: <200110110613.IAA11611@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,  G I would to change the cluster member type of an AlphaStation DS20. TillhJ now the station is a satellite. It should be a member with its own system-H disk and no votes, so that I can boot them without any problems. My ideaF is to copy the cluster system disk to a local disk. To delete the SYS0J sysroot and to change the satellites sysroot (e.g. SYS32) to SYS0. Is thisG system then bootable? Is there anything wrong on this idea? If yes, howr% can I do, what I want with less work?e   TIA and regards Rudolf Wingert  I P.S. The DS20 shall be the new one bootserver. For this I have to upgradetJ its system from 7.1-2 to 7.3 or 7.2-1 (what would be better?). Also I haveK to install or upgrade layered products. Would it better to wait for OpenVMSs V7.2-2?    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:21:08 +0200i= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>oN Subject: Re: Compaq revenue goes down $1 Billion, warns of loss in 3rd Quarter) Message-ID: <3BC5AAD4.CF38C44E@gtech.com>n   "Vance R. Haemmerle" wrote:oG >   I see that Compaq is now warning of a loss of $1 Billion in revenuemJ > and a loss in the 3rd Quarter.  It looks like the stock is going to takeF > a hit this morning (Thank goodness I sold at $12+ a few months ago). > L >   Compaq is blaming it on a Typhoon affecting shipments and the Sept. 11thF > attack (3 weeks from Quarter end).  Come on Compaq, how much of this8 > is due to the Alpha murder at the end of last quarter?  > Everybody told Compaq that Alpga sales would be very low after the announcement.f   They did not believe it.   But ...l   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:32:47 +0200o= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>S Subject: Re: CSWING ) Message-ID: <3BC5AD8F.C2C6D25C@gtech.com>e   John Macallister wrote:bE > Anyone know if there's a version of CSWING which works under Linux?   ( I think CSWING uses SMG$, so not likely.   Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 11 Oct 2001 16:10:38 GMT/ From: Thomas Dickey <dickey@saltmine.radix.net>n Subject: Re: CSWINGn* Message-ID: <9q4g9u$i7i$3@news1.Radix.Net>  + Arne Vajhj <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> wrote:  > John Macallister wrote:hF >> Anyone know if there's a version of CSWING which works under Linux?  * > I think CSWING uses SMG$, so not likely.  L well, there's that detail - but I'm not aware of anything done in SMG$ whichM can't be done in curses (other than the obvious: providing an SMG$-compatiblea binding ;-).   -- 1= Thomas E. Dickey <dickey@radix.net> <dickey@herndon4.his.com>a http://dickey.his.com  ftp://dickey.his.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 03:59:01 -0400a- From: Jack Patteeuw <jjpatteeuw@peoplepc.com>d Subject: DCPS and Native PCL, Message-ID: <3BC55145.3825ABBA@peoplepc.com>  Q This is a wild idea that I just had (and I'm certain others have had it too) and  ( perhaps Mr. Anderson will comment on it.  Q First, let me state that I believe that DCPS does a wonderful job at what it does-T do.  We use most (if not all) of these features at my site (page orientation, number< up, simplex/duplex, layup definitions, Tektronics printing).  T Second, my assumption is that HP has the "vast majority" of the small to medium size laser printer maket.  N Third, the PostScript that comes out of DCPS, even for simple jobs, (Portrait,S Simplex, 1 up) is not trival in it's complexity or volume, altough volume is not an, issue with 100mb ethernet.  4 HP, in theory, will own Compaq and OpenVMS some day.    J Ergo, why not have DCPS convert ANSI (or maybe limit it to ASCII) to PCL ?    U PCL5 seems to be where HP stopped. My very limited knowledege of PCL says this should 2 be possible (although the number up may be tricky)   Comments welcome.      -- s  
 Jack Patteeuwl   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:47:07 -0400 0 From: Paul Anderson <paul.r.anderson@compaq.com>  Subject: Re: DCPS and Native PCL; Message-ID: <111020011147078438%paul.r.anderson@compaq.com>t  : In article <3BC55145.3825ABBA@peoplepc.com>, Jack Patteeuw  <jjpatteeuw@peoplepc.com> wrote:  N > This is a wild idea that I just had (and I'm certain others have had it too). > and perhaps Mr. Anderson will comment on it.  @ I'd be glad to comment, although my wife wishes I'd make *fewer*	 comments.a  N > First, let me state that I believe that DCPS does a wonderful job at what it
 > does do.  ! Flattery will get you everywhere.6  Q > Second, my assumption is that HP has the "vast majority" of the small to mediuma > size laser printer maket.t  A I don't know the percentage, but let's just say HP is "up there".l  P > Third, the PostScript that comes out of DCPS, even for simple jobs, (Portrait,N > Simplex, 1 up) is not trival in it's complexity or volume, altough volume is# > not an issue with 100mb ethernet.r  E For translated jobs, you are correct.  For PostScript jobs, some codeDE is added to the beginning and end of the job, but is probably nowherea6 near the amount of PostScript already in the user job.  6 > HP, in theory, will own Compaq and OpenVMS some day.   I've heard that.  L > Ergo, why not have DCPS convert ANSI (or maybe limit it to ASCII) to PCL ?  B There'd be no reason to convert ASCII to PCL, as the printer's PCL* interpreter will handle that quite nicely.  K > PCL5 seems to be where HP stopped. My very limited knowledege of PCL saysu@ > this should be possible (although the number up may be tricky)  G There is PCL 6.  But even if ANSI-to-PCL was possible, what problem areeG you trying to solve?  Printing to printers that don't have PostScript?  B That's not possible with DCPS today, as DCPS communicates with theE printer via PostScript, even if it eventually sends a user's PCL file4 to the printer.   E I'd say the vast majority of printers used from OpenVMS are networkedn4 printers, even if that means just a terminal server.  D PostScript produces larger files and needs more memory.  But all but= the smallest printers (home inkjets and low-cost lasers) have G PostScript these days.  IMHO the need for DCPS to produce PCL from ANSIy files would be limited.s  7 I'd be interested in hearing comments from others also.n   Paul   -- f  Paul Anderson   OpenVMS Engineeringh   Compaq Computer Corporationt   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 11:22:11 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)A  Subject: Re: DCPS and Native PCL3 Message-ID: <W0Pe9HSJoBi+@eisner.encompasserve.org>   n In article <111020011147078438%paul.r.anderson@compaq.com>, Paul Anderson <paul.r.anderson@compaq.com> writes:  F > PostScript produces larger files and needs more memory.  But all but? > the smallest printers (home inkjets and low-cost lasers) haveaI > PostScript these days.  IMHO the need for DCPS to produce PCL from ANSIm > files would be limited.c > 9 > I'd be interested in hearing comments from others also.w  E Many years ago DEC committed to Postscript for its printing standard.dD I would hate to see any resources taken away from Postscript effortsC to do something for PCL.  My printer purchases (none from DEC) havev7 been centered around Postscript, like the roadmap said.i  G I use VMS and MacOS.  I don't have the vaguest idea how to create a PCL 7 file on either of those.  It must be a Microsoft thing.o   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:05:25 +0200o, From: Theo Jakobus <Theo.Jakobus@iaf.fhg.de>1 Subject: Ghostview doesn't work under OpenVMS 7.3i) Message-ID: <3BC57CF5.2090003@iaf.fhg.de>b  H After upgrading to 7.3 using Ghostview showed an "invalid font" message.B Ghostview is a X-window front end to Ghostscript which looks into Q SYS$COMMON:[SYSFONT.XDPS.OUTLINE] for the fonts. This directory is empty, in the  N release notes for OpenVMS 7.3 is a note "Adobe Display PostScript Software No  Longer Available".  ! So before upgrade save the fonts!t     Regards, -- e  ; *********************************************************** ; *                                                         * ; *  Theo Jakobus                                           * ; *  Fraunhofer-Institut fuer Angewandte Festkoerperphysik  * ; *  Tullastr. 72                                           * ; *  D-79108 Freiburg                                       * ; *  Germany                                                * ; *  Phone:   +49-(0)761-5159-325                           * ; *  FAX :    +49-(0)761-5159-200                           **; *  e-mail:  Theo.Jakobus@iaf.fhg.de                       *e; *  http://www.iaf.fhg.de                                  *<; *                                                         *-; ***********************************************************    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 16:42:50 +0200* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)5 Subject: Re: Ghostview doesn't work under OpenVMS 7.3D* Message-ID: <3bc5afea$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  X In article <3BC57CF5.2090003@iaf.fhg.de>, Theo Jakobus <Theo.Jakobus@iaf.fhg.de> writes:I >After upgrading to 7.3 using Ghostview showed an "invalid font" message. C >Ghostview is a X-window front end to Ghostscript which looks into rR >SYS$COMMON:[SYSFONT.XDPS.OUTLINE] for the fonts. This directory is empty, in the O >release notes for OpenVMS 7.3 is a note "Adobe Display PostScript Software No e >Longer Available".s >l" >So before upgrade save the fonts!  K That's the DECwindows-MOTIF V1.2-6 upgrade, not the OpenVMS V7.3 upgrade !!n  - And GS/GV is able to use its own font, too...4   -- d< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888h< <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:15:16 GMTc8 From: hammond@not@peek.ppb.cpqcorp.net (Charlie Hammond)5 Subject: Re: Ghostview doesn't work under OpenVMS 7.3 1 Message-ID: <8Iix7.295$RL6.2342@news.cpqcorp.net>F  + In article <3bc5afea$1@news.kapsch.co.at>, e, eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) writes:  + >In article <3BC57CF5.2090003@iaf.fhg.de>, o/ >Theo Jakobus <Theo.Jakobus@iaf.fhg.de> writes:o
 >         J >>After upgrading to 7.3 using Ghostview showed an "invalid font" message.D >>Ghostview is a X-window front end to Ghostscript which looks into S >>SYS$COMMON:[SYSFONT.XDPS.OUTLINE] for the fonts. This directory is empty, in the gP >>release notes for OpenVMS 7.3 is a note "Adobe Display PostScript Software No  >>Longer Available". ..L >That's the DECwindows-MOTIF V1.2-6 upgrade, not the OpenVMS V7.3 upgrade !! ..    G The font files in [SYSFONT.XDPS.OUTLINE] are not part of any version ofsF DECwindows-MOTIF.  They were part of the OpenVMS operating system, butI are removed in V7.3.  An OpenVMS upgrade to V7.3 will remove these files. D (If you are interested, they were in the DECWINDOWS_SUPPORT option,  WORKSTATION sub-option.)  F For those who may be interested, the [SYSFONT.XDPS.OUTLINE] font filesI are in V7.2-2.  However, V7.2-2 includes DECwindows-MOTIF version V1.2-6.bD If Display PostScript is an issue for you, you may want to stay with Motif version V1.2-5.    -- eK     Charlie Hammond -- Compaq Computer Corporation -- Pompano Beach  FL USA H        (hammond@not@peek.ppb.cpqcorp.net -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 05:11:59 -0700 (PDT)d. From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>/ Subject: Re: Higher prices for Alpha processorsh@ Message-ID: <20011011121159.21630.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com>   Well  + I work with Windows 2000 Professional and Is dont have any problems with it. 3 I have what I need: Excursion, Lotus Notes, Office, 2 Remedy/ARS and sometimes OpenVMS Managemnt Console-  works - even I think it have a lot of lacks.   * But I have a dream - not related to MLK=20  1 I would like a new "Windowing Graphical Terminal"  to substitute the VTs ....  3 It is time to OpenVMS have a non-Decwindows option. 0 I was thinking - if I am not becoming crazy - in3 the possibiity of use SunRays under OpenVMS or a=20n3 "MS Windows like GUI" for OpenVMS - how much memorya6 uses PocketPC GUI ?? Would be easy to port in a scheme. ICA/RDA + MS GUI + OpenVMS ? If it is possible0 to port KDE for OpenVMS because it is "open"....   Regardsn   FC=20w        + --- Peter da Silva <peter@abbnm.com> wrote:t. > In article <3BC48021.4990209E@videotron.ca>,1 > JF Mezei  <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote:k1 > > > The fundamental design of the OS and API isu# > > > relentlessly single-instance:r >=204 > > So, you have a single rack of multiple NT boxes. > That is what Compaq'sw, > > "futures" slides looked like at a recent > presentation.e >=20' > Can you say "maintainance nightmare"?- >=201 > (no, I don't believe in magic management tools,  > particularly when thea1 > point of the multiple systems is to resolve thed > problems I'm talking about( > so they're all configured differently) >=200 > > A serious application can simply use its own  > configuration files instead of2 > > relying on that stupid registry thing. Or they > could improve the registry5 > > thing to allow each process to have access to itsm > own registry space. InsteadA2 > > of having just "USER", it could have "JOB" and  > "PROCESS". This way, you could/ > > start IIS on the same machine with the samet > "USER", but with a different4 > > "PROCESS" registry section/tree with the process > specific parameters. >=200 > Tektronix came up with a similar hack on later > versions of WinDD. It was notW, > pleasant, 'cos there was no way to tell an$ > application "no, I really want you3 > looking at the global namespace this time" so youl > had to switch back and5 > forth from "install mode" to "run mode"... and thato > was only for *one*  > dimension of 'instance space'. >=20* > Looks like another management nightmare. >=206 > Windows NT (and hence 2000) is finally a pretty good > desktop OS. Why can'te1 > they concentrate on making it the best possiblem > desktop OS instead of trying1 > to cram it into niches it's never designed for?k >=20 > --=20-- >  `-_-'   In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva.06 >   'U`    "A well-rounded geek should be able to geek > about anything."8 >                                                    =20 >   -- nicolai@esperi.orgc >          Disclaimer: WWFD?     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3DmL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3Di F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3DR  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?, Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:37:26 +0200r= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> / Subject: Re: Higher prices for Alpha processorsi) Message-ID: <3BC5AEA5.B544BB8C@gtech.com>n   Pio Baettig wrote: > from: ) > http://www.theinquirer.net/09100106.htm  > % > Compaq bumps up coppa whoppa pricese > # > "Insignificant at a system level"f( > By Mike Magee, 09/10/2001 10:35:00 BSTK > YOU WOULD THINK THAT now IBM has an answer to the Q Wildfire platform, it 6 > would reduce rather than raise prices, wouldn't you?K > No. In the new-style Compaq, the rule is to put the prices up - and whilesI > they're at it, charge well over the odds for memory too. (Hi Kingston.)-G > The Q put prices of its GS 1001MHz CPU by $1,000 for the GS80 and theoN > GS160/320. These, no doubt, are the coppa whoppas IBM is making for them and= > it's hard to grasp exactly why the price has risen so much. I > However, the 731MHz CPU price stays the same. Q's justification for theW= > price hike is that it is "insignificant at a system level".uJ > If it, sorry HP, is moving everything to INTC chips, it had better learnM > that the CPU price is far from insignificant in Xeon and Itanic servers.....L > Q has actually lessened the price of its memory for DS boards by nearly 40L > per cent, while the 1GB memory has dropped by a quarter. The reduction for' > DS20E systems are around a fifth too. K > This makes the memory cheaper but still astonishingly expensive given then > state of the DRAM industry.mD > But, we suspect, this is also "insignificant at a system level".   8 So Compaq does not have a clue about how to do business.  A "OK - so Alpha sales revenue are down after our Alpha end-of-lifeeD announcement - no problem we will just increase prices to compensate for decrase in units."  - The computer business does not work that way.    Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 11 Oct 2001 15:30:53 GMT( From: dek@cgl.ucsf.edu (David Konerding)/ Subject: Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors 7 Message-ID: <slrn9sbepd.djdu.dek@socrates.cgl.ucsf.edu>   O On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:37:26 +0200, Arne Vajhj <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com> wrote:r > C > "OK - so Alpha sales revenue are down after our Alpha end-of-lifeaF > announcement - no problem we will just increase prices to compensate > for decrase in units." > / > The computer business does not work that way.t  K Actually, yes, it does, in this case.  the people who are still going to be G buying big alpha systems with very fast chips are going to pay the moreiB money to get the system they want because they're committed to theD system due to software or hardware constraints.  From Compaq's pointH of view, they make more per unit on the sales they weren't going to lose from competition.u   Dave   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:17:57 -0700 (PDT)l. From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>/ Subject: Re: Higher prices for Alpha processors-@ Message-ID: <20011011171757.59242.qmail@web20201.mail.yahoo.com>  & Tektronix still developing terminals??  3 At the home page there arent any information about..   www.tektronix.com      Regc FC=20r  5 > > I would like a new "Windowing Graphical Terminal"i > > to substitute the VTs .... >=206 > You want some Tektronix XP330s? They have both X and > Citrix clients. We're1 > trying to get rid of them... >=20     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3DeL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3Dr F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazily fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D.  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?, Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 13:41:58 +0200, From: Nazim MANSER <Nazim.Manser@socgen.com>! Subject: How to obtain IP address T Message-ID: <00EC13BC58586037*/c=FR/admd=ATLAS/prmd=SG/o=INFI/s=MANSER/g=NAZIM/@MHS>  ) In the Accounting record is the followingD  
 LOGIN FAILUREL
 -------------3O Username:          <login>           UIC:               [SYSTEM]               rO Account:           <login>           Finish time:       11-OCT-2001 08:52:22.38iO Process ID:        21A02AF4          Start time:        11-OCT-2001 08:52:15.99 O Owner ID:                            Elapsed time:                0 00:00:06.39bO Terminal name:     TNA467:           Processor time:              0 00:00:00.05s; Remote node addr:  31541             Priority:          4  d@ Remote node name:  188.0.            Privilege <31-00>: 0010C000@ Remote ID:         TELNET_BC000424   Privilege <63-32>: 00000000O Remote full name:                                                              0@ Queue entry:                         Final status code: 00D380642 Queue name:                                       : Job name:                                                 O Final status text: %LOGIN-F-CMDINPUT, error reading command input              o  N But the IP Address field is truncated, so how to obtain the whole IP address ?% How to interpret the following fieldsa   Remote node addr.   31541  Remote ID: TELNET_BC000424   OpenVMS 6.2n UCX  Version  >   Digital TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version V4.2 - ECO 3-   on a VAX 4000-705A running OpenVMS V6.2    5   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:47:44 +0100:- From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com>I% Subject: Re: How to obtain IP addressn1 Message-ID: <3BC594F0.3194CC0C@BlueBubble.UK.Com>e   Nazim MANSER wrote:u  + > In the Accounting record is the following  > B > Remote ID:         TELNET_BC000424   Privilege <63-32>: 00000000   %xBC000424 -> 188.0.4.36   %xbc -> 188o	 %x00 -> 0e	 %x04 -> 4o
 %x24 -> 36  	 Roy Omond  Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 05:53:05 -0700 (PDT)e. From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>% Subject: Re: How to obtain IP addresss@ Message-ID: <20011011125305.13697.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com>   Do the following below:x     TELNET_BC000424h  ( Convert the hexadecimal below to decimal     BC 00 04 24l  " $ write sys$output %xbc     or 188! $ write sys$output %x00     or 00 ! $ write sys$output %x04     or 04u! $ write sys$output %x24     or 36o   RegardsS   F=E1bio Cardosoe      1 --- Nazim MANSER <Nazim.Manser@socgen.com> wrote:S+ > In the Accounting record is the following  >=20 > LOGIN FAILUREN > -------------t8 > Username:          <login>           UIC:          =20 >    [SYSTEM]              =208 > Account:           <login>           Finish time:  =20 >    11-OCT-2001 08:52:22.388 > Process ID:        21A02AF4          Start time:   =20 >    11-OCT-2001 08:52:15.998 > Owner ID:                            Elapsed time: =20 >              0 00:00:06.396 > Terminal name:     TNA467:           Processor time: >              0 00:00:00.058 > Remote node addr:  31541             Priority:     =20
 >    4 =200 > Remote node name:  188.0.            Privilege > <31-00>: 0010C000p0 > Remote ID:         TELNET_BC000424   Privilege > <63-32>: 00000000 8 > Remote full name:                                  =20 >                          =203 > Queue entry:                         Final statusm > code: 00D380646 > Queue name:                                      =208 > Job name:                                          =20	 >     =20 5 > Final status text: %LOGIN-F-CMDINPUT, error readingr > command input             =20  >=202 > But the IP Address field is truncated, so how to > obtain the whole IP address ?-' > How to interpret the following fields1 >=20 > Remote node addr.   31541  > Remote ID: TELNET_BC000424 >=20
 > OpenVMS 6.2L > UCX  Version >=203 >   Digital TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS VAX Version0 > V4.2 - ECO 31 >   on a VAX 4000-705A running OpenVMS V6.2   =20e >=20     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D L =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3De F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil. fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3Da  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?, Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 13:04:30 +0100h7 From: "POWERS, John" <John.POWERS@reading.sema.slb.com>pG Subject: RE: how to right-justify a string within a DCL f$fao directivee= Message-ID: <D30A62ABC710D211AEE100A0C9D615EE0152908F@REAES2>   F I am replying here to my own post, as I received privately some usefulG input from a lurker, who didn't want to cc info-vax. I will respect theuF desire for anonymity, but the idea in it is worthy of distribution, so here goes..h  G There is a problem with my way of doing this. If the size of the stringeG exceeds the justification size, then the procedure will bomb out with a 4 fatal error %SYSTEM-F-BADPARAM, bad parameter value.  E Lurker offered me an alternative, which in this event will return theAG last <size> characters of the string instead, truncating from the left.r It is..t4 f$EXTRACT(f$LEN(str),size,f$fao("!#* !AS",size,str))F .only 4 characters longer, and crash-resistant. (indeed if you shorten3 f$EXTRACT to f$EXT, it is exactly the same length!)    To see them in action..    $=20 $ str =3D "John Powers"t $ size =3D 9C $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT f$FAO("!#* !#AS",size-f$LEN(str),f$LEN(str),str) ' %SYSTEM-F-BADPARAM, bad parameter value   \!#* !#AS\  $=20G $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT f$EXTRACT(f$LEN(str),size,f$fao("!#* !AS",size,str)) 	 hn Powerso $=20    J -New sig file under construction following the change of Company name fromA Sema to SchlumbergerSema (I promise it won't mention my dog Meg).    - Cheers, John   >-----Original Message-----e >From: POWERS, John=20 >Sent: 08 October 2001 14:183 >To: 'Jean-Frangois Marchal'; Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com*H >Subject: RE: how to right-justify a string within a DCL f$fao directive >- >- >Been there done that0: >e.g. to right justify "str" into a field of length "size" >u >$ size=3D20 >$ str =3D "abcd" ? >$ rt_jus=3Df$fao("!#* !#AS",size-f$LEN(str),f$LEN(string),str)  >$ sh sym rt_jus$ >  RT_JUS =3D "                abcd" >o >k >HTH - Johnd >w >>-----Original Message-----E >>From: Jean-Frangois Marchal [mailto:jean-francois.marchal@x9000.fr]- >>Sent: 08 October 2001 13:56  >>To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComOE >>Subject: how to right-justify a string within a DCL f$fao directive  >> >> >>Bonjour =E0 tous >>B >>I'm looking for thesimplest expression to right-justify a string7 >>which is part of a more complex output done by f$fao.e >>% >>Any suggestion will be appreciated.p >> >>Cordialement >>Jean-Frangois Marchalo >> >sK >-New sig file under construction following the change of Company name from B >Sema to SchlumbergerSema (I promise it won't mention my dog Meg). >h >- Cheers, JohnW >n    K ___________________________________________________________________________mD This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the=20J individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are=20G solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of=20  SchlumbergerSema.=20L If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received th= isK email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or=20a- copying of this email is strictly prohibited.h  L If you have received this email in error please notify the SchlumbergerSema=/  Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600. K ___________________________________________________________________________E   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 03:41:16 -0400n- From: Jack Patteeuw <jjpatteeuw@peoplepc.com>t* Subject: Re: It wouldn't happen on VMS ..., Message-ID: <3BC54D1C.910164A1@peoplepc.com>   John McLean wrote: > > > I have one of those power adapters that Compaq is recalling. > H > After many links I finally found the page for the details, filled them > in and clicked submit. > # > "There was an error adding order.o5 > [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]Timeout expired"t  Q Rumor has it that there are dozens (100's ?) of MicroSquish servers inside CompaqrU that are continuing to spread Code Red, NIMDA and other viruses partially because theDN "admin" in charge a) doesn't know it is infected and/or b) doesn't know how to> detect/repair the infection and/or c) no longer works there !!   -- m  
 Jack Patteeuwp   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:10:20 -0500q1 From: "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com> * Subject: Re: It wouldn't happen on VMS ...8 Message-ID: <9q45ol$a7d$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com>  I Same thing happened to me last week.  I wound up using the 800 number.  IsJ mentioned the on-line problem to the person on the phone and she said many others have the same problem.e  ; A few lines from a Peter, Paul and Mary song comes to mind:e  8 "When will they ever learn.  When will they ever learn."   Dave...x  3 "John McLean" <mcleanj@dplanet.ch> wrote in messages$ news:3BC4C30C.D652E4CC@dplanet.ch... > > > I have one of those power adapters that Compaq is recalling. >dH > After many links I finally found the page for the details, filled them > in and clicked submit. >i# > "There was an error adding order.p5 > [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]Timeout expired"n >h< > I clicked on submit a second time and bingo, same problem. >i4 > Now I'll just try phoning the local Compaq office. > G > This makes me wonder...what happens if my adapter catches fire in theiD > next few days and burns the apartment down?  After all, I tried to= > notify Compaq.  Would I sue Compaq or Microsoft or both ???e >  >n
 > John McLean0   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:06:09 -0700 (PDT) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>6 Subject: Labsystems Sample Manager: out of OpenVMS/RDB@ Message-ID: <20011011140609.31426.qmail@web20208.mail.yahoo.com>  % I dont know if you know this product:   5 Sample Manager from Labsystems  is a LIMS (Laboratoryc4 Automation) product. We have this product running at- Petrobras laboratories under OpenVMS and RDB.   3 But, the last version was not ported to OpenVMS andb2 RDB. It will work here under Windows 2000 / Oracle Classic.=20    Too bad....i         Regardsa   F=E1bio Cardoson   =3D=3D=3D=3D=3DiL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D  F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazile fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D   2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?, Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:29:32 GMT 2 From: "frank brown" <frank.brown@ci.seattle.wa.us>' Subject: LICENSE-I-EXCEEDED for VAX-VMSn1 Message-ID: <0Gkx7.53$UD1.3232@news-west.eli.net>p  K I'm getting 'attempted usage exceeds active license limits' when logging onoC to our VAX 4300.  The VAX-VMS license is loaded.  It is as follows:n    Issuer:                      DEC* Authorization:           ALS-WM-90165-1683 Product Name:         VAX-VMSp Producer:                 DECa! Units:                       4000i Version:                   0.0 Release Date:           (none) PAK Termination Date:    (none)d Availability:               0'4 Activity:                    C (VMS Concurrent User)$ Options:                    NO_SHARE Hardware ID:   Revision Level:          7# Status:                      Active  Command:                MODIFY Modified by user:      SYSTEM30 Modified on:             15-AUG-2001 15:39:17.94" Include:                     CPUA2  J Any clue why only OPA0: sessions are allowed on this guy?  It's an offsiteF clone of a production system, I changed the node name and modified theH license's 'INCLUDE' to match; otherwise identical to the one which works5 (allows 64 interactive logins) on the production VAX.g   -Frank Brown Seattle Fire Dept.# frank.brown@NOSPAM_ci.seattle.wa.us- http://www.inwa.net/~frog/   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 01:41:18 -0700+ From: nilakantan_m@hotmail.com (Nilakantan):! Subject: Re: Lkwset before CMKRNLi= Message-ID: <f660c23e.0110110041.6ecd7470@posting.google.com>t   Hi All, / My initiial requirement was like the following.    main() {s .. ...  cmkrnl( fun,,,); ...I ...i   }t fun()y {mE img$add_privilege_vector_entry(...)/* to register my rundwn handler*/H }n? The above code crashed my system (It is an Alpha OpenVMS 7.2-1)uF Now I modified the code as follows from the wizard topic which Hoffman
 poited to me.t      #pragma extern_model save< #pragma extern_model strict_refdef "$$C$LINKAGE_BEGIN" noshr void *__linkage_begin ;u #pragma extern_model restore   #pragma extern_model saveh: #pragma extern_model strict_refdef "__C$LINKAGE_END" noshr void *__linkage_end ;  #pragma extern_model restore   #pragma extern_model saveh7 #pragma extern_model strict_refdef "$$C$CODE_BEGIN" shru void *__code_begin ; #pragma extern_model restore   #pragma extern_model save"5 #pragma extern_model strict_refdef "__C$CODE_END" shrp void *__code_end ; #pragma extern_model restore   main() {  int *lp; ...a ...a lp=(int*)&fun;.         inaddr[0]=lp[2];inaddr[1]=&__code_end;          retaddr[0]=retaddr[1]=0;  1         status = sys$lkwset(inaddr,retaddr,NULL);e           if(!(status &1 UL))y          exit(status);.        inaddr[0]=fun;inaddr[1]=&__linkage_end;          retaddr[0]=retaddr[1]=0;           6         status = sys$lkwset(inaddr,retaddr,NULL);              if(!(status &1 UL))v          exit(status);          cmkrnl(fun..);w  /       status = sys$ulwset(inaddr,retaddr,NULL);e       lp=(int*)&fun;.         inaddr[0]=lp[2];inaddr[1]=&__code_end;          retaddr[0]=retaddr[1]=0;  1         status = sys$ulwset(inaddr,retaddr,NULL);s .... .... }w fun()  {e  img$add_privilege_vector_entry() }   C In the above code I have tried to lock the code and linkage section)D before cmkrnl and it has surprisingly avoded my crash.Am I  doing it the right way?   Thanks for your time and help,
 Best Regards,3
 Nilakantan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 20:18:15 +0010v% From: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.auf( Subject: MAIL$SYSTEM_FLAGS -- my problem5 Message-ID: <01K9DYKLPQZ60068GX@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>s  L Thanks to Phil Howell, I have now re-read the bit options (I forget who put L up the message about SYLOGICALS.TEMPLATE, but the logical is only trivially  mentioned in my 7.2 version).o  F As part of my development area, I have a VAXstation 4000 60 (VMS 6.2) % clustered with a DEC 3000 at VMS 7.2.o  F Our (now by attrition) small development team logs onto the Alpha for M development work.  Both boxes sit on my desk, so luckily, I have no room for - a PC :-)  N The VAX I use for sort of trivial stuff, but one thing I use it for is my VMS M mail -- my ZZZ account (although ZZZ is embarrassing, I have another account -E without it which is even more embarrassing -- it goes into corporate e	 Outlook).l  I My use of MAIL$SYSTEM_FLAGS is such that the logical is set to 3 on both tJ machines and gave me broadcasts on the VAX, but not on any DECterm on the G Alpha.  The internal address of my mail is GECKO, which is the VAX box.t  L On Tuesday (IIRC), when I came in at 9:00, the VAX had bugchecked at 8:44.  J Till then there was no mail broadcasting on my Alpha from the plethora of K overnight (daytime to most of you) mail.  Whilst the VAX was re-booting, a sL message came through and was seemingly directed to the Alpha because of the D VAX unavailability.  However, even after the VAX had re-booted, the 6 broadcasts are appearing on DECterms on both machines.  H I could turn broadcasting off on the Alpha, since I do most programming L there, but I would like a solution to revert me back to what I was seeing.  0 And not a re-boot, which I am sure would fix it.   Regards, Paddy   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:34:04 +0200/= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>u? Subject: Re: MAIL$SYSTEM_FLAGS logical - where in documentation ) Message-ID: <3BC5ADDC.657996FE@gtech.com>   & paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au wrote:O > It was many years ago that I read this up and have the logical set to 3 on myc
 > cluster. > L > This a.m., the behaviour changed and I wanted to re-check.  I got into theJ > User Manual on the Compaq site.  Clicking on this in the index brings upN > 6.7.2, "forwarding messages", with no mention of MAIL$SYSTEM_FLAGS in sight. > N > The contents of Chapter 6 seemed to have the only possibly pertinent sectionK > as 13 "Customising your mail environment", but no mention of the logical.i > N > Rather than send my eyes crazy trying to scan read the whole of chapter 6, IL > thought I would just ask if anyone can tell me the section reference which+ > details the bit options for this logical.    It is somewhere in the manuals.   8 I would probably start looking in the clustering manual.   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:21:26 +0100f% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> " Subject: Re: Memo:  Big Alpha Deal8 Message-ID: <2ilasto6uaic21jvg06lsd8ukskpmcduaj@4ax.com>  , On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:53:38 -0400, JF Mezei% <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote:p   >"Terry C. Shannon" wrote:O >> Must be. I talked to the reporter for about 15 minutes, and I haven't a clue-O >> where he woulda come up with the allegation that VMS has been withdrawn from.! >> the general commercial market.n > K >Since it was never in the general commercial market while under Compaq, itwN >couldn't have been widthdrawn from it. But it is safe to say that prematurelyM >announcing the death of a platform will essentially prematurely announce thex2 >death of the software that runs on that platform.  E Especially as Wintel Compaq employees can easily say things that lead,E reporters ro believe that Alpha has been withdrawn from general sale.h  G >Digital didn't announce the death of VAX before Alpha was commercially5K >available. Digital didn't announce the death of VAX before VMS was runningN >fully on Alpha. >rM >> I am surprised that CPQ's marketing department has not set InformationWeek . >> straight. A printed correction is in order! >rN >Since Compaq does not market VMS, why should it worry about VMS getting a badI >reputation ? As longas Compaq can talk to the few large VMS customers itSN >intends to keep, it can make sure that they get the right message, even if th, >erest of the world thinks that VMS is dead.   -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:47:34 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>11 Subject: Re: Microsoft Security Slipup of the Day 8 Message-ID: <rsmastc0nfq0daepmjl37f4a14jnenv65m@4ax.com>  4 On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:18:14 GMT, "Terry C. Shannon"" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote:    E >Not too long. Back in the bad old days of Viet Nam when we used ARDF M >(airborne radio direction finding), we could pinpoint the bad guys in a verydD >few minutes. And that's before folks like myself were replaced with >spaceborne assets.0  @ Stop mentioning the aliens!! Oh wait, I see, you said spaceborne/ assets not space born assets. That's ok then :)    Alan @ MJ-21   -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:57:54 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>o1 Subject: Re: Microsoft Security Slipup of the Day08 Message-ID: <tdnastsv21pqh3pnhhktbmnn1fhant8nm1@4ax.com>  , On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 23:57:30 -0400, JF Mezei% <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote:a   >sN >He stopped using his satphone just prior to the Cruise missile attacks duringN >the Clinton/Lewinsky administration.  (That is one of the reasons that attackI >failed since Bin laden had clued in to the fact that the USA was able to 7 >triangulate his position from his use of a sat phone).i  C As far as I recall reading Pakistan high ranking army officers were3@ believed to have tipped off Bin Laden that a cruise attack wouldF shortly be underway (I'm guessing the US asked permission for PakistanF airspace rights) and he left the target area less than 1 hr before the strike.=   >=O >I don't know what information the current congress critters may have released,o1 >but I don't think it was anything very valuable.s  C CNN website seems to hint at what Bush may really have been furious > about being leaked. Look for "related stories" link on the CNN coverage of congress leaks.m   -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 06:01:41 -0400D- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>E1 Subject: Re: Microsoft Security Slipup of the Daye+ Message-ID: <3BC56DFC.CC61A96@videotron.ca>e   Alan Greig wrote: B > Stop mentioning the aliens!! Oh wait, I see, you said spaceborne1 > assets not space born assets. That's ok then :)    Did someone say "alien" ????  Y > http://www.spaceflight.nasa.gov/gallery/images/shuttle/sts-105/html/sts105-304-025.htmle  L Look at the high-res version. Home in on the upper left corner of the hatch.: At least one has visited the international space station.   M Of course, not much to do with VMS since the ISS runs Sun and IBM hardware. ItN think the russian side has some HP hardware though, so in a few months it will& be relevant  to this newsgroup.... :-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 08:30:30 -0500 1 From: "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com>o1 Subject: Re: Microsoft Security Slipup of the Day 8 Message-ID: <9q46um$acu$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com>  F > Not too long. Back in the bad old days of Viet Nam when we used ARDFI > (airborne radio direction finding), we could pinpoint the bad guys in af veryE > few minutes. And that's before folks like myself were replaced withl > spaceborne assets. >t  L I remember stories about this from my Pleiku days back in the late 60s.  ButE Charlie figured out a way around this.  Seems like #10 cans and a fewiL batteries was all that was needed to fire a rocket w/o anyone being close toI the launcher (bamboo sticks formed in an "X") during daylight hours.  NotgE very accurate but aimed in the general direction of large facilities,r sometimes very effective.$  K Put a pinch of water in the can (this was the timed fuse), float one of the J battery leads on top of the water and the other on the bottom.  On a sunnyK day, (not during monsoon season) the water evaporates,  positive eventually-K makes contact with negative then boom off goes the rocket.  A small hole onwJ the bottom of the can worked also.  Drip, drip then boom.  The radar wouldH detect the arc of the rocket, choppers or spooky would be dispatched and "usually" find nothing.f   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:38:23 GMTe* From: cjt & trefoil <cheljuba@prodigy.net>1 Subject: Re: Microsoft Security Slipup of the Dayo+ Message-ID: <3BC5AF0E.6D9A5A83@prodigy.net>    Alan Greig wrote:S >  <snip> > E > CNN website seems to hint at what Bush may really have been furious_@ > about being leaked. Look for "related stories" link on the CNN > coverage of congress leaks.i >  > -- > Alan  K I don't see the article to which you're referring.  Can you provide a link?r   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:24:38 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>y1 Subject: Re: Microsoft Security Slipup of the Dayy8 Message-ID: <f3ebstkm4msmk1pv9mosd7aomnksfmu87d@4ax.com>  F On Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:38:23 GMT, cjt & trefoil <cheljuba@prodigy.net> wrote:   >Alan Greig wrote: >> e ><snip>i >> iF >> CNN website seems to hint at what Bush may really have been furiousA >> about being leaked. Look for "related stories" link on the CNN_ >> coverage of congress leaks. >>   >> --- >> Alan- >-L >I don't see the article to which you're referring.  Can you provide a link?  D Can't immediately find it. May have been removed and I don't want toB post the details explicitly myself. But the story was headed "BushA furious..." and the related link was something like "Senator says  <something>".  -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 07:45:39 -0400 # From: "Mike D" <dufoem@eti-int.com>  Subject: Mounting CD ROM error; Message-ID: <3zfx7.34484$dO3.2532111@news20.bellglobal.com>(  I Does anyone know why I would recieve a parity error mounting a CD besides G that it could be the media itself?  I've never had problems in the pastg 3yrs.e   Thanks in advance, Mike  : $ MOUNT/MEDIA=CDROM/OVER=ID/UNDEFINED=FIXED=CR=200 dka600: %MOUNT-F-PARITY, parity error    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:34:11 GMT 2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)" Subject: Re: Mounting CD ROM error1 Message-ID: <TZix7.298$RL6.2430@news.cpqcorp.net>o  a In article <3zfx7.34484$dO3.2532111@news20.bellglobal.com>, "Mike D" <dufoem@eti-int.com> writes:8J :Does anyone know why I would recieve a parity error mounting a CD besides% :that it could be the media itself?  o  J   Problems with the media, with the drive, with the SCSI bus, or with the I   host hardware or software.  Usually in that order.  Check the error logcH   for clues, try another disk, try the disk in another drive, and check D   the host software ECOs, as a start.  Again, usually in that order.  * :I've never had problems in the past 3yrs.  F   You state that like you believe it has any particular bearing on the>   occurance of hardware and media (and software) errors. :-)    J   I say this because I've seen software in OpenVMS that had run correctly I   for over twenty years before a latent error in the code was triggered,  %   and the code subsequently failed.  f  H   I've also seen CD-R media that failed in one specific model series of F   CD-ROM drive and I've seen media that failed in one specific CD-ROM (   drive, but worked correctly in others.  K   Put another way, the fact that something has apparently worked correctly TG   for years or even decades does not mean that a hardware error cannot aI   arise, and also does not imply that there are no latent errors present.e  I   Also note that SCSI unit 6 is often (but certainly not always) the SCSIn,   unit assigned to the host SCSI controller.  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 23:10:35 -0700a" From: Koloth <koloth@telocity.com>+ Subject: Re: OpenVMS at Orbit computer expo., Message-ID: <3BC537DB.CBED6BDF@telocity.com>  % Mark? Sue? OpenVMS Marketing?  Hello?3   Cass   Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:_  9 > This Monday I was at the "Networks and Telecom" expo int& > Stockholm, Sweden. A three day expo.4 > I was at the Compaq both and also asked about VMS.5 > There was a number of Alpha boxes, all running T64.b9 > Not a singel VMS box or any mention of it what so ever.- >n > Jan-Erik Sderholm.$ >. > John McLean wrote:= > > Orbit is a 4-day computer expo currently running in Basles > > (Switzerland).K > > I looked around for a while and sure enough someone saw me and wanderedrG > > over.  I asked where VMS was being displayed and he told me that itr > > wasn't.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:00:53 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> + Subject: Re: OpenVMS at Orbit computer expoo8 Message-ID: <c9kast41e55nboo991e7055vd4h76blgjj@4ax.com>  @ On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 23:10:35 -0700, Koloth <koloth@telocity.com> wrote:  & >Mark? Sue? OpenVMS Marketing?  Hello?  C And this is what we have complained about for years. Compaq/DEC say D one thing directly to the VMS crowd and another to everyone else. If@ you happen to be in a job where your only contact with Compaq isD through VMS knowledgable employees then you wonder what on earth all the moaners are on about.m   -- Alan   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 05:45:11 -0700 (PDT) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>+ Subject: Re: OpenVMS at Orbit computer expon@ Message-ID: <20011011124511.45057.qmail@web20207.mail.yahoo.com>   ????????????      + OpenVMS   =3D Open Virtual Marketing SystemO  % Or ... there is no REAL Marketing !!!m   Regardsm   FC=20t      ' --- Koloth <koloth@telocity.com> wrote:g' > Mark? Sue? OpenVMS Marketing?  Hello?n >=20 > Cass >=20 > Jan-Erik S=F6derholm wrote:  >=203 > > This Monday I was at the "Networks and Telecom"u	 > expo inI( > > Stockholm, Sweden. A three day expo.6 > > I was at the Compaq both and also asked about VMS.2 > > There was a number of Alpha boxes, all running > T64.5 > > Not a singel VMS box or any mention of it what soi > ever.c > >h > > Jan-Erik S=F6derholm.  > >r > > John McLean wrote:6 > > > Orbit is a 4-day computer expo currently running
 > in Basle > > > (Switzerland).1 > > > I looked around for a while and sure enoughs > someone saw me and wanderedc6 > > > over.  I asked where VMS was being displayed and > he told me that it
 > > > wasn't.a >=20     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3DaL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D  F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazilc fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D   2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?, Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 07:05:35 -07001 From: jason_odonnell@erinet.com (Jason O'Donnell) + Subject: Re: OpenVMS at Orbit computer expo = Message-ID: <5c8ffd05.0110110605.59ef8942@posting.google.com>!  e Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote in message news:<c9kast41e55nboo991e7055vd4h76blgjj@4ax.com>...tB > On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 23:10:35 -0700, Koloth <koloth@telocity.com> > wrote: > ( > >Mark? Sue? OpenVMS Marketing?  Hello? > E > And this is what we have complained about for years. Compaq/DEC say F > one thing directly to the VMS crowd and another to everyone else. IfB > you happen to be in a job where your only contact with Compaq isF > through VMS knowledgable employees then you wonder what on earth all > the moaners are on about.s  F We need to start now!  A barrage of email and snail-mail sent to CarlyC may open HP's eyes about an OS they will have ownership of that hasI? not been exploited and promoted like it should under the Compaqa idiocy..   JMOD   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 05:59:49 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)P4 Subject: Re: Phone question..(dialing to other user)3 Message-ID: <GUQpJXgULCxu@eisner.encompasserve.org>   [ In article <3BC5153F.7C2D6B11@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:t > Valdemir wrote:l  D >> How can I dial the process_name 1823_fernanda to Phone  with me ? >>   >> Phone doesnt permit this.m >> -F >> Is there any freeware  VMS application  that can I use to do this ? >>   >> Thanks in advance...y > ; > Sorry, but when you abuse the rules, the rules abuse you.t > ; > You can't PHONE a specific process, only a specific user.r  > It would be possible, of course, to write such an application,> since the Phone utility transmits its initial notification via2 broadcast, which is available as a system service.  ? I think DEC made the right choice for most of us, since we want A Phone to reach a human being, without regard to which of multiple / processes may be the center of their attention.i   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:29:32 GMTm2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)4 Subject: Re: Phone question..(dialing to other user)1 Message-ID: <g1ix7.293$RL6.2438@news.cpqcorp.net>t  f In article <000e01c151e8$fab960c0$ba020001@unipobjetivo.br>, "Valdemir" <valdemir-@uol.com.br> writes:M : I'm needing a VMS application to communicate with other users in my system.k  I   Specifically why?  (You will want to provide background on the request,iI   in addition to asking for help with a proposed solution -- with details-L   of the problem you seek to solve, we may be able to provide alternatives.)I   Also when posting, please remember to include the OpenVMS platform and eG   the version -- there are no other particularly relevent products here.H   in this case, so there are few product and version details beyond thatG   of the base OpenVMS system that initially appear to be required here.e   No offense is intended.)  K : I have tried Phone, but in Phone I need put the username to dial, not then :process name.  H   Which is expected.  You PHONE users, and every process of that user is%   offered the incoming PHONE request.   D :Is there any freeware  VMS application  that can I use to do this ?  G   Quite possibly yes, but I'm not really sure what you are up to yet.  a@   (Nor am I yet particularly sure why the behaviour of PHONE is H   unacceptable here.)  There are other chat and IRC clients for OpenVMS,H   for instance.  (But as your request appears somewhat unusual, I'm not G   yet quite willing to recommend any specific alternative solution(s).)m  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 02:51:03 -0700& From: mafw@my-deja.com (Mark Williams)3 Subject: Public accessable VMS machine for testing?a= Message-ID: <fa2670b1.0110110151.3493e023@posting.google.com>   C Is there any publicly accessable OpenVMS machines (V 7.X) out there,D where I can try to build/test some C/C++ language software?  I can'tE justify renting a machine because there is only a small amount to do.e  G Alternatively can I 'rent' an account on a machine for a short time for  a reasonable cost?   TIAa    Mark.   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 07:01:40 -07001 From: jason_odonnell@erinet.com (Jason O'Donnell)d7 Subject: Re: Public accessable VMS machine for testing?l= Message-ID: <5c8ffd05.0110110601.564e223d@posting.google.com>   k mafw@my-deja.com (Mark Williams) wrote in message news:<fa2670b1.0110110151.3493e023@posting.google.com>...oE > Is there any publicly accessable OpenVMS machines (V 7.X) out thereaF > where I can try to build/test some C/C++ language software?  I can'tG > justify renting a machine because there is only a small amount to do.i > I > Alternatively can I 'rent' an account on a machine for a short time fore > a reasonable cost? >  > TIA 
 >    Mark.  F Hit eBay; you can buy a small Alpha based box for $100 - $300.  Get anA OpenVMS hobbyist license (free) and you get all of the languages,cB including C and JAVA, and many development tools (you even get theA webserver).  If you decide to go with OpenVMS, you can get a realyA license and use it as a test bed or local node in your office for.4 administration of the real server (when you get it).   JMOD   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 09:48:03 -0700! From: hemanir@yahoo.com (Anamika)r7 Subject: Re: Public accessable VMS machine for testing?s= Message-ID: <5130f039.0110110848.64e1928b@posting.google.com>c   Try hobbesthevax.com It is a vms 7.2 cluster.   -A  k mafw@my-deja.com (Mark Williams) wrote in message news:<fa2670b1.0110110151.3493e023@posting.google.com>... E > Is there any publicly accessable OpenVMS machines (V 7.X) out therepF > where I can try to build/test some C/C++ language software?  I can'tG > justify renting a machine because there is only a small amount to do.n > I > Alternatively can I 'rent' an account on a machine for a short time fors > a reasonable cost? >  > TIAL
 >    Mark.   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 08:10:58 -07001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris)bG Subject: Re: RMS rollback problem after VMS migration 7.1-1 to  7.2-1H1r= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0110110710.756d5d79@posting.google.com>   j Stefan.appeltans@pi.be (Stefan) wrote in message news:<1ce54ab3.0110100344.6c4524ac@posting.google.com>...L > we have migrated our production systems to VMS 7.2-1h1 , and since then we# > have problems with rms journaling  ...n; > we have installed  patch DEC-axpvms-vms721H1-rms-v0600-4 v; > but this does not solve our problem, any ideas , please ?e  F 7.2-1H1 contained a version of RMS with enhancements compared with theA RMS in 7.2-1.  But 7.2-1H1 is the minimum version to support youroA GS-160s.  At least at one point in time, when problems were first-B encountered with the new RMS in 7.2-1H1, you could get a patch kitC from the support centers for 7.2-1H1 that contained the "old" RMS.  5 Perhaps that might still be possible as a workaround.   E I would expect that 7.2-2 and 7.3 also contain the newer RMS code, sosF you might still have the problem even if you upgraded to one of those.D  In other words, I wouldn't count on 7.2-2 or 7.3 fixing the problemB unless you test it or get info from Compaq indicating one of those2 versions contains a fix for your specific problem.C ------------------------------------------------------------------- C Keith Parris | parris at encompasserve dot org | VMS consulting on: C Clusters, Disaster Tolerance, Internals, Performance, Storage & I/Oi   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 17:40:12 GMT-" From: jack_horsfield@altavista.net@ Subject: Re: SEDT problems on RedHat 7.1 (was Re: EDT for Linux)( Message-ID: <3bc5d947.9993319@localhost>  D On 10 Oct 2001 12:41:55 -0700, leeroth@my-deja.com (Lee Roth) wrote:  o >"John Macallister" <J.Macallister1@physics.oxford.ac.uk> wrote in message news:<9ofn00$ca5$1@news.ox.ac.uk>...iM >> I have to use Linux a lot these days and would like to have an EDT editor,e2 >> just plain old EDT and not necessarily TPU/EVE.* >> Anyone know of an EDT editor for Linux? >>    F you could use another editor with an EDT emulation? or does it have to be the real thing...   jack2 A life form's gotta do what a life form's gotta do   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:27:21 +0100d% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>gC Subject: Re: Shannon The Omniscient (Re: Renaming SKC (was "itch"))s8 Message-ID: <9rlast0tm6jcu7n4hg46skbin3217a7feh@4ax.com>  5 On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:20:56 -0500, Christopher Smitht <csmith@amdocs.com> wrote:   >Perhaps something safe like:n >s@ >Shannon Knows TheCurrentOwnerofTheProductsFormerlyProducedByDEC >e( >Shannon Knows WhatHeLikesInYourWardrobe  3 Sound like a reference to a very old Genesis track?o  9 "Me I'm just a lawnmower you can tell by the way I walk."r     -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:27:29 -0400y- From: "Richard D. Piccard" <piccard@ohio.edu>-' Subject: Re: Sharing a ssytem dump filee( Message-ID: <3BC59E3F.B293A3D6@ohio.edu>  M Another alternative is to dump to the pagefile.  AUTOGEN is your friend.  YouAM just want to be sure to have SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM or one of its friends copy theoO DUMP, if there is one, to other storage and release the space for paging.  I am"P pretty sure this is documented; if you don't find it, I could probably dredge up the details.  #                                 RDP.     Rob Buxton wrote:k  H > On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 19:23:50 GMT, Steven Whatley <swhatley@blkbox.com> > wrote: >n
 > >Hi all, > >iM > >I'm the administrator of two VAX 7610s in a cluster running VMS 5.5-2.  WeeM > >are running out of space on the system disk.  $1$DUS0: is a 2GB disk.  ThejN > >disk runs 92% to 95% full.  When the disk reaches 95% full, bad things seem7 > >to happen (system crashes, queue manager dies, etc).l > >vO > >One option is to use a common sysdump.dmp file.  We currently have two 512MB_L > >dump files under [sys0] and [sys1].  I've found the procedure to create aM > >common dump file using SYSGEN and SET FILE/ENTER.  The problem is we don'tlO > >have room to create a common dump file without deleteing one of the existing 	 > >files.  > A > You have verified that the file on sys0 and sys1 are different?i > dir /file gives the file id. > > O > >How do I go about deleting one of the sysdump.dmp file?  Could I just delete0I > >the [sys1] sysdump file and just alias the [sys0.sysexe]sysdump.dmp to = > >[sys1.sysexe]sysdump.dmp?  Can I do this without a reboot?  >s9 > Are the Pagefiles & Swapfiles still on the System Disk?C$ > Might be easier to move these off. >s > > 
 > >Thanks,	 > >Steven  > >OAO Corp. > >Houston, TX > >--a, > >                     ___     ____________M > >Steven Whatley  <<<((__O\   (__<>___<>__ \   ____     Don't get rattled by-O > >swhatley@blkbox.com    \ \_(__<>___<>__)\O\_/O___>-<  what I say.  It's justcD > >Houston, Texas          \O__<>___<>___<>)\___/        my opinion.   --B ==================================================================B Dick Piccard                           Academic Technology ManagerB piccard@ohio.edu                                 Computer ServicesB http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~piccard/                Ohio University   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:59:45 -0500 C From: "Craig A. Berry" <craig.berry@nospam.SignalTreeSolutions.com>e3 Subject: Re: Telnet DCL Routines for HTML Mail MsgsnI Message-ID: <craig.berry-2690BD.09594511102001@newsrump.sjc.telocity.net>e  C In article <3BC48DB9.497628@sosu.edu>, Dan Moore <dmoore@sosu.edu> k wrote:  M > I agree that there are better ways to do this (perl modules etc...), but I dN > like using DCL routines. Essentially, one has to create a telnet_nty device 3 > and copy commands to it. Wait statements give thee0 > smtp server a chance to process each command.    > 9 > $!***************************************************** 0 > $! MAIL HTML MESSAGE VIA TELNET TO SMTP SERVER9 > $!*****************************************************C+ > $ telnet/port=25/create_nty mail.sosu.edur* > $ copy sys$input 'f$trnlnm("TELNET_NTY") > HELO > $ WAIT 00:00:01c  G Using /create_nty is not a bad approach in general, but as long as you  E are creating a virtual device, why not open it and write to it?  And oH for that matter read the responses.  Guessing at how long to wait seems D a bit dicey.  I'd also recommend putting all the HTML in a separate : file, read it in a loop and write it out to the smtp port.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:12:36 GMTp2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)' Subject: Re: Unaltered DCL command line-1 Message-ID: <EFix7.294$RL6.2442@news.cpqcorp.net>r  v In article <1002760481.26229.1.nnrp-01.d4e45fa5@news.demon.co.uk>, "Chris Townley" <news@townleyc.demon.co.uk> writes:; :"James Wilkinson" <elementyl@hotmail.com> wrote in messager> :news:cfHw7.24953$0t3.3540151397@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com...7 :> "Hoff Hoffman" <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wroteo; :> >   Directly reading the recall buffer is not supported.m :<snip>tJ :> Without going into all the details, I have a large set of programs thatJ :> use the command to determine which course of action to take.  So let's  :> say I have the program MAIN.t :> :> doof := $main :> foo := $maink :> bar := $main  :>4 :> In the code the program does a GETARG(0, command) :e> :Would it not be simpler to have the symbols set, for example: :  :$ doof := "$main doof"o :$ foo := "$main foo"e :$ bar := "$main bar"w :e :and interrogate the parameter?o  L   If the without-the-details approach involves rummaging through the commandN   tables, then yes, passing a "personality parameter" (or any of a variety of K   logically similar alternatives) that would be preferable.  Also FAR more jI   likely to survive an upgrade, or a move over to OpenVMS Itanium -- codeoJ   running in inner-mode or with knowledge of inner-mode structures and anyL   code using undocumented and unsupported interfaces can encounter failures L   during OpenVMS upgrades, during various ECOs, and during platform changes.    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:34:50 +0200 = From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>e' Subject: Re: Unaltered DCL command line ) Message-ID: <3BC5AE0A.B6B13E34@gtech.com>.   Howard S Shubs wrote:?D > In article <Fbxw7.24848$bt.3395959927@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,3 >  "James Wilkinson" <elementyl@hotmail.com> wrote:rP > > So is there a way to obtain the *unaltered* full DCL command line that works! > > whether interactive or batch?b > 6 > Don't the "foreign command" facilities perform this?  ' Not if unaltered means truly unaltered.e   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:35:04 +0200L= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>i' Subject: Re: Unaltered DCL command line ) Message-ID: <3BC5AE18.1257038F@gtech.com>g  
 Mal wrote:{ > "James Wilkinson" <elementyl@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<Fbxw7.24848$bt.3395959927@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>... P > > I would like to get this in Fortran and have a routine that looks a lot likeL > > (DFLIB) GETARG does on other platforms.  I do this by reading the recallP > > buffer for the last command.  This works great unless the calling program isJ > > invoked in a command procedure, in which case the command invoking theF > > command procedure is the last thing in the recall buffer, which is: > > consistent with what one sees with the RECALL command. > >-P > > So is there a way to obtain the *unaltered* full DCL command line that works! > > whether interactive or batch?V > ; > I think LIB$GET_FOREIGN might be what you're looking for:8 >   > $HELP RTL LIB$ LIB$GET_FOREIGN  ' Not if unaltered means truly unaltered.:   Arne   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 05:36:10 -0700! From: hwong@my.ismart.net (hwong)o Subject: VAX 6400 is downS= Message-ID: <3feb222a.0110110436.1b0aa1a3@posting.google.com>c   Hi,e  C We are experiencing a very strange problem here with our productionwF system VAX 6400 (Yes! It is our production system since early 90's andE it's still running). The system has been very reliable and in fact wee@ are maintaining the hardware ourselves since our old developmentB machine are retired, we just take out the parts from that machine.  > But until recently something strange has happened - the systemC poweroff itself in a very weird manner. When that happens, all in aaE sudden the LEDs on the key switch panel, CPU, memory & I/O boards are0B off, but the two browers (front and back) just keep running. If we? turn the key switch and reset the system power, it works again.G  B We have replaced almost everything related to power in the cabinetE (airflow sensor, temp. sensor, key switch, power controller box, etc)dC and after the first time when a few things were replaced, it workedhC for almost two month before it failed again. Then we replaced a fewrE more things again and it worked for another two weeks. Now the systemT/ power down itself almost every one or two days.b  C We have checked the air conditioning and power main in the computerpE room but they all seems normal. Is it really a hardware problem? MyberE the various sensors are becoming too sensitive to the environment, is @ it possible to disable them so that the system will not poweroff itself?h  E I know this is a very old machine but I just hope there are still dieaB hard VAX supporters there who may have similar experience in their past.e  & Thanks in advance for any suggestions.   VAXuser-   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 09:38:24 -05009 From: kaplow_r@eisner.encompasserve.org.mars (Bob Kaplow).# Subject: Re: VAX disaster tolerance 3 Message-ID: <yo0NEtPxs8ew@eisner.encompasserve.org><  a In article <j1ZXp+3v3PhG@eisner.encompasserve.org>, kuhrt@encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt) writes:dd > In article <tqpigq36b3cn57@news.supernews.com>, "Island Computers" <dbturner@islandco.com> writes:N >> Strangely enough - We have had 3 calls from Compaq already (different partsJ >> of the organisation) looking for 7800 parts and systems - as have other0 >> vendors with whom we deal on a regular basis.K >> Seems Compaq (unlike the Digital we all knew and loved) have carried thee( >> JUST IN TIME concept to WAY TOO LATE. >> nM >> The fact that people had these big beasts under maintenance suggests to mebN >> that Compaq ought to have had a few "Hot-Spares" ready to be either trucked( >> or flown in within a few hours notice >> i >> Not so it seems.... >> DTu >>   > G > This was one of the many reasons we changed hardware support vendors. H > The one we are currently using has one of each type of machine we haveF > under contract _running_ at their location.  That way when somethingH > breaks they have a hot spare that was working when they pulled it out   > to bring it to our location.     Sounds like SMS...    J         Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every oneJ         who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve itE         but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you areoC         inevitably ruined. -- Patrick Henry, speech of June 5 1788 -  4 	Support Freedom: http://www.indefenseoffreedom.org/   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:31:45 +0200-= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>S Subject: Re: VMS 5.4 supported?r( Message-ID: <3BC5AD51.FBE922D@gtech.com>   Linda wrote:E > I've inherited a Microvax 3100 that I know very little about.  It'saG > not in my hands yet so the info I have is limited, but I believe it'sgG > running VMS 5.4 and UCX (ver unknown).  Can anyone tell me if VMS 5.4pA > is still supported?  If not, what would be the most current and F > supported level that can run on a 3100?  This is all new to me, so I/ > thank you in advance for your kind responses.t  C VMS 5.4 must have been officially obsolete and unsupported for 8-10t years or something like that.    Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:09:42 -04007; From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com>c Subject: Re: VMS 7.2-2$ Message-ID: <3bc5c472$1@news.si.com>  L >V7.3 has unfortunately really not as few bugs as other minor VMS versions !E >So, avoid V7.3 for critical production systems and stay with V7.2-2 o  4 So, is there a V7.2-2 for VAXes?  I didn't think so. -- iA Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.comlA Smiths Aerospace                          tillman at swdev.si.comr= 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to preventn< Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@"8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 12:53:50 -0400(5 From: David Beatty <David.Beatty@qwertysasasdfgh.com>n Subject: Re: VMS 7.2-22 Message-ID: <Vc7FO5JNnDxXVipYVFuLIbKJnV+6@4ax.com>  & I'm not using Volume Shadowing.  David  E On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 14:15:41 -0400, norm.raphael@jamesbury.com wrote:d   >t >iN >Is that so.  Do you use volume shadowing?  Are you aware (from the V7.3 cover >letter)M >that that configuration (V7.3 and anything before V7.1) is not supported forP
 >migration ore >otherwise?f >t >i >s >e; >David.Beatty@qwertysasasdfgh.com on 10/10/2001 12:05:08 PM  >r3 >Please respond to David.Beatty@qwertysasasdfgh.com  >w >To:   Info-VAX@mvb.saic.com >cc: >Subject:  Re: VMS 7.2-2 >1 >5 >4 >0 >pE >    V6.2 and V7.3 systems can co-exist in the same cluster -- I havei  >the following versions in mine: >  >VAX V6.2, V7.1 ' >Alpha V6.2, V7.1, V7.2-1, V7.2-2, V7.3  >t6 >I've also had VAX V7.2, Alpha V7.1-1H2, Alpha V7.1-2,8 >Alpha V7.2, and Alpha V7.2-1H1 booted into this cluster	 >as well.f >a >David R. Beatty > 6 >On Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:59:19 -0400, "O'Connor, Marty" ><MOConnor@DVFS.COM> wrote:1 >tJ >>Another issue is that VMS 7.3 cannot exist in a cluster with any versionL >>less than 7.1.  While 7.2-2 can exist with versions down to 6.2 (or 6.1?).L >>In our case we started to move our Alpha's to 7.3 but the VAX systems wereM >>still at 6.2 and since we are moving off the VAXs soon we are waiting untile  >>after they go away to upgrade. >>M >>My understanding is that 7.2-2 gets many of the features of 7.3 without then' >>features that cause the restrictions.D >> >>Marty O'Connor >>M >>>Does anyone knows why Compaq just release 7.2-2 when 7.3 is already out in  >>>the market? >> >R >w >  >a >m >s   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:23:57 -0700p  From: Jon <jsmyth69@hotmail.com> Subject: VMS on DVD?2 Message-ID: <UNXFO5=k0Z5EohpWItTRG97gK5xQ@4ax.com>   Hi,-  C    I've been hearing on the grapevine that the distrbutions for VMSaB will soon be on DVD.  Is there any truth to these rumors?  (A page' reference at Compaq/HP would be great.).    Thanks!   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:31:26 GMTe, From: "Patrick Coulier" <patrick@delight.be>D Subject: VMScluster + fibrechannel  + HSG80 : How to balance disks ?4 Message-ID: <2yex7.20$EW3.946@nreader2.kpnqwest.net>   Dear VMS friends,    Greetings from Belgium.b  * I have a small VMS-disk-balancing problem.  $ First a word about our config today:6 VMS 7.2-1H1 in a CI-cluster (GS160 + GS60 + 2x GS140).; CI is only used as clusterinterconnect and for tape-access.r  E All VMS-nodes have also 2 fibrechannel adapters KGPSA, connected to 2:B fibreswitches connected to a pair of HSG80 controllers with 512 MB cache/mirrored.7  , I am happy to say that our SAN is VMS-only !  7 Our GS60 + GS140 systems have 4 paths to every SANdisk.oD The GS160 has 8 paths to every SAN disk (2 PCI-cages with 2 KGPSA's)    J I would like to know of there is a way to monitor the disksaccess properly in a HSG80-SAN config.  J I would like to balance our disks over the available paths and controllers using the commands6 $ set device/swith/path="PGX0.XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" and/ HSG001>set unitname preferred_path = thos/otheru  , Any tips or trics ? All help is very welcome  + Patrick COULIER [mailto:Patrick@delight.be]r  * Systemengineer Delight Information Systems   Archimedesstraat 7 bus 6   8400 Oostende - BelgiumG   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:45:16 +0100n5 From: "Steeples, Oliver" <Oliver.Steeples@compaq.com>sH Subject: RE: VMScluster + fibrechannel  + HSG80 : How to balance disks ?N Message-ID: <F498D199EDB12D468CD2C66680D3080116D65E@reoexc04.emea.cpqcorp.net>   Hi,sD 	firstly in vms the use of preferred pathing is not supported as vmsL can override this.  The only way to prefer paths is by using the switch path command.  H Not sure what you man about disk access?  Is it access paths on the HSG.  L I recommend you have a look at the Fibre Channel and Multipath Documentation from the following site:, http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/fibre/   Regards, 	Oliver      -----Original Message-----1 From: Patrick Coulier [mailto:patrick@delight.be]T) Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 11:31 AM  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComCC Subject: VMScluster + fibrechannel + HSG80 : How to balance disks ?t     Dear VMS friends,p   Greetings from Belgium.t  * I have a small VMS-disk-balancing problem.  $ First a word about our config today:6 VMS 7.2-1H1 in a CI-cluster (GS160 + GS60 + 2x GS140).; CI is only used as clusterinterconnect and for tape-access.a  E All VMS-nodes have also 2 fibrechannel adapters KGPSA, connected to 2mB fibreswitches connected to a pair of HSG80 controllers with 512 MB cache/mirrored.o  , I am happy to say that our SAN is VMS-only !  7 Our GS60 + GS140 systems have 4 paths to every SANdisk.aD The GS160 has 8 paths to every SAN disk (2 PCI-cages with 2 KGPSA's)    J I would like to know of there is a way to monitor the disksaccess properly in a HSG80-SAN config.  J I would like to balance our disks over the available paths and controllers using the commands6 $ set device/swith/path="PGX0.XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" and/ HSG001>set unitname preferred_path = thos/other   , Any tips or trics ? All help is very welcome  + Patrick COULIER [mailto:Patrick@delight.be]s  * Systemengineer Delight Information Systems   Archimedesstraat 7 bus 6   8400 Oostende - Belgiumf   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 10:57:52 -0400d> From: "Koska, John C. (LNG-MBC)" <John.C.Koska@lexisnexis.com>H Subject: RE: VMScluster + fibrechannel  + HSG80 : How to balance disks ?M Message-ID: <3D35AD137AAAD411A6BA0008C7B1B12D01602442@MBCALBEXC03.BENDER.COM>    > -----Original Message-----3 > From: Patrick Coulier [mailto:patrick@delight.be] * > Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 6:31 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com E > Subject: VMScluster + fibrechannel + HSG80 : How to balance disks ?> >  > Dear VMS friends,a >  > Greetings from Belgium.a > , > I have a small VMS-disk-balancing problem. > & > First a word about our config today:8 > VMS 7.2-1H1 in a CI-cluster (GS160 + GS60 + 2x GS140).= > CI is only used as clusterinterconnect and for tape-access.  > G > All VMS-nodes have also 2 fibrechannel adapters KGPSA, connected to 2cD > fibreswitches connected to a pair of HSG80 controllers with 512 MB > cache/mirrored.c > . > I am happy to say that our SAN is VMS-only ! > 9 > Our GS60 + GS140 systems have 4 paths to every SANdisk.CF > The GS160 has 8 paths to every SAN disk (2 PCI-cages with 2 KGPSA's) > 8 > I would like to know of there is a way to monitor the  > disksaccess properly > in a HSG80-SAN config.  G Maybe the VTDPY program within the HSG80 can help. You can enter VTDPY ,D from the HSG80 console prompt with RUN VTDPY.  A Control-C will get C you back out.  Documentation on VTDPY displays can be found in the hE "HSG80 Array Controller Troubleshooting Reference Guide".  Look there* at about page 2-8 thru 2-34.  *= > I would like to balance our disks over the available paths   > and controllers* > using the commands8 > $ set device/swith/path="PGX0.XXXX-XXXX-XXXX-XXXX" and1 > HSG001>set unitname preferred_path = thos/other  > . > Any tips or trics ? All help is very welcome > - > Patrick COULIER [mailto:Patrick@delight.be]r > , > Systemengineer Delight Information Systems >  > Archimedesstraat 7 bus 6 >  > 8400 Oostende - Belgiumn >    :) jck
 John Koska Matthew Bender & Co., Inc. -"   A Member of the LexisNexis Group
 1275 Broadwaye Albany, NY  12204  USA  518-487-3255 John.C.Koska@lexisnexis.com-  ) I post personal opinion only, and all the2* disclaimers one could imagine apply.  That( includes, I speak for myself only and my) views in no way represent my employer(s).6+ One should also take note of the Electronic6) Communications Privacy Act of 1986, which.+ imposes civil and criminal liability on anyu( person who intentionally intercepts "any) wire, oral or electronic communication." .   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:33:07 +0200m= From: Arne =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@gtech.com>e Subject: Re: VMSMail APIs?) Message-ID: <3BC5ADA3.2D4AFD39@gtech.com>    paul@wren.cc.kux.edu wrote:p> > Where, in manuals, or on-line can one find the VMSMail APIs?  $ Look in the utility routines manual.   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:35:29 +0100>0 From: "Roberts, Andy" <Andy.Roberts@spirent.com> Subject: Re: VRC15-KA Info?rM Message-ID: <AF62EE114EADD51195F60050047DC01009CA4D@xchange.flightdata.co.uk>   E On Tue, 09 Oct 2001 15:21:20 GMT, hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoffo Hoffman) wrote:o  L > I will assume you followed the video display monitor links present in the @ > OpenVMS FAQ, and you tried a google newsgroup archives search.  L Yes, I did follow the monitor links in the VMS FAQ. Unfortunately, I did not/ find any information at all about the VRC15-KA.nK Yes, I did try a google newsgroup archives search. I was unable to complete = the search; I could not access ftp://crvax.sri.com/info-vax/.n  H > Did you have any particular video monitor information in mind here as H > being the "right info"?  (I'll assume resolution, though this could as; > easily be a request for the configuration documentation.)i  I Please accept my humble apologies. I have seen many other people make the-K same mistake but I still did it! The specific "right info" that I'm lookinge for is:fB 1.	Because I use the monitor on both my PC and my Alpha, I want toA install the best Windows driver for my monitor. I seek sufficientmL information to enable me to choose an appropriate driver (and/or appropriate settings) for W98 and W2K.C 2.	Because I have been (unintentionally!) unkind to it, the monitornJ sometimes refuses to display a picture. I remember that this happened manyI years ago, when the monitor had never been anywhere near a PC and I still H had access to engineering assistance from Digital; they provided me withK information on how to reset the monitor. I was then able to set it up again I from scratch. I seek this information, because I have lost it. (I seem to-F recall that something I had done had upset the auto-synch capability.)  L > The VRC15-KA series display will auto-synch between 33 and 66 KHz vertical  L > and 50 to 110 Hz horizontal, resolution 640 by 480 at 60 Hz, 640 by 480 at  J > 72 Hz, 800 by 600 at 72 Hz, 1024 by 768 at 70 Hz, 1024 by 768 at 72 Hz, G > 1280 by 1024 at 88 Hz (Interlaced), and various other video settings.e  0 Thanks for the information. It was a good guess!   Andy Roberts   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:16:36 +0100.% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>r1 Subject: We've burned our boats say Compaq and HPi8 Message-ID: <usrast0gt05tu03te4279keel291qh7h4f@4ax.com>  @ The Inquirer has a report of Carly and Curly's 'Houston love-in'7 conference for staff. Here's a few selected quotes fromh' http://www.theinquirer.net/10100114.htmD   Carly:E "There is no backup plan. We've burned the boats, we've landed in the$D brave new world, and we are going to go forward. And I, for one, whoC have developed a core competence in ignoring bad press can tell you A that, put all the headlines aside, put the short-term stock price F reaction aside, and as Michael said to me at the end of the first day,B you know what, we're just going to go prove them wrong, and that'sB exactly right. And that to me is the most fun of all, setting yourE sights high, having everyone in the world underestimate you, and then  blowing their socks off."s  9 Wonder just when Carly first blew Curly's r^hsocks off :)h   ---a  B "Plus, the Greater HP will place a heavy reliance on Intel and the+ Itanic as well as Microsoft's R&D machine."n   ---e  A "QUESTION: Yes, I have a two part question, and I'm looking for aaF comment first from Carly and then from Michael. I'm up here in True 64C portion of the business for Compaq, and recently HP has announced aoA layoff of approximately 150 people who were doing, I believe, the F Itanium port down in New Jersey. And I'm just wondering if you want to comment on that?  2 And, Michael, how do you think that plays up here?  D The thing that confuses me a little bit about your question, we haveE made a decision very consistent with a decision that Compaq had made,tB as you know, HP committed to the Itanium platform actually four orE five years ago now, and as part of our ongoing migration process awayeF from PA risk (sic) and towards Itanium, we had been moving people intoC Intel. And we did just complete the movement of a development team.hD They weren't actually in New Jersey, they were in California, so youE may have a couple of things confused here. But we moved a developmentmA team from HP roll onto Intel roll. It wasn't a question of losingu@ jobs, it was a question of moving those folks into our partner's organization."       -- Alan   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 14:03:04 GMT-* From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>5 Subject: Re: We've burned our boats say Compaq and HP.C Message-ID: <sEhx7.694134$NK1.63527498@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>-  L The thought occurred to me when I read the Inquirer article that if C&C wereF as effective at making *good* decisions as they are at trying to forceK through *bad* ones both companies would be in a hell of a lot better shape.l   - bill  0 Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote in message2 news:usrast0gt05tu03te4279keel291qh7h4f@4ax.com...B > The Inquirer has a report of Carly and Curly's 'Houston love-in'9 > conference for staff. Here's a few selected quotes from ) > http://www.theinquirer.net/10100114.htmh >  > Carly:G > "There is no backup plan. We've burned the boats, we've landed in thelF > brave new world, and we are going to go forward. And I, for one, whoE > have developed a core competence in ignoring bad press can tell you C > that, put all the headlines aside, put the short-term stock priceDH > reaction aside, and as Michael said to me at the end of the first day,D > you know what, we're just going to go prove them wrong, and that'sD > exactly right. And that to me is the most fun of all, setting yourG > sights high, having everyone in the world underestimate you, and thent > blowing their socks off."g   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 15:44:02 GMTo4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>5 Subject: Re: We've burned our boats say Compaq and HP > Message-ID: <67jx7.105768$vq.21818904@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  5 "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net> wrote in messagea= news:sEhx7.694134$NK1.63527498@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com.../I > The thought occurred to me when I read the Inquirer article that if C&C, wereH > as effective at making *good* decisions as they are at trying to forceF > through *bad* ones both companies would be in a hell of a lot better shape. >.  A What, exactly, would constitute a "good" decision in this regard?r   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 09:29:19 -0700,( From: "Greg Cagle" <gregc@gregcagle.com>5 Subject: Re: We've burned our boats say Compaq and HP / Message-ID: <tsbi51gj9j5kff@corp.supernews.com>s  e "Alan Greig" <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote in message news:usrast0gt05tu03te4279keel291qh7h4f@4ax.com...v   <snip>  C > "QUESTION: Yes, I have a two part question, and I'm looking for auH > comment first from Carly and then from Michael. I'm up here in True 64E > portion of the business for Compaq, and recently HP has announced aBC > layoff of approximately 150 people who were doing, I believe, theSH > Itanium port down in New Jersey. And I'm just wondering if you want to > comment on that? > 4 > And, Michael, how do you think that plays up here? >pF > The thing that confuses me a little bit about your question, we haveG > made a decision very consistent with a decision that Compaq had made, D > as you know, HP committed to the Itanium platform actually four orG > five years ago now, and as part of our ongoing migration process awaydH > from PA risk (sic) and towards Itanium, we had been moving people intoE > Intel. And we did just complete the movement of a development team.-F > They weren't actually in New Jersey, they were in California, so youG > may have a couple of things confused here. But we moved a developmenteC > team from HP roll onto Intel roll. It wasn't a question of losinguB > jobs, it was a question of moving those folks into our partner's
 > organizing.c   Hmm. Two data points:   E 1) We did close down the Florham Park, NJ lab where the HP-UX port tor9    Itanium was done, laying off approximately 150 people.o  B 2) We also moved a chipset development lab in California to Intel.  A These are well documented at CBS Marketwatch, among other places.    --
 Greg Cagle gregc at gregcagle dot com   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 15:46:04 +0200* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)$ Subject: [DCPS, UCX] short questions* Message-ID: <3bc5a29c$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  K I just got a 'support call' from a colleague. And I have only 1 hour budgetvB for this (so investigation, test, upgrades are out of scope, yet):  A Does DCPS V2.0 work over TCP/IP (UCX) on OpenVMS Alpha V7.1-1H1 ?e@ Which TCP/IP version ? License problems (DCPS-OPEN, DCPS-PLUS) ?  D I know, I can dig this info - or test it - (at home) in a few hours.H But I do not have this hours, and that would be also on my own costs :-(  	 Please...i   -- n< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888w< <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 16:14:38 +0200D, From: Theo Jakobus <Theo.Jakobus@iaf.fhg.de>( Subject: Re: [DCPS, UCX] short questions) Message-ID: <3BC5A94E.2090007@iaf.fhg.de>    Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote:  M > I just got a 'support call' from a colleague. And I have only 1 hour budgetmD > for this (so investigation, test, upgrades are out of scope, yet): > C > Does DCPS V2.0 work over TCP/IP (UCX) on OpenVMS Alpha V7.1-1H1 ?h    3 Communication with printers via Raw TCP/IP Sockets.e    B > Which TCP/IP version ? License problems (DCPS-OPEN, DCPS-PLUS) ?    P Starting with DCPS V2.0, the need for DCPS-OPEN and DCPS-PLUS licenses has been K eliminated. The right to use all features of DCPS is now included with the  ! OpenVMS operating system license.n  Q DCPS supports a limited number of printers only at least most LaserPrinters from   HP are supported.B       Regards, -- s  ; ***********************************************************i; *                                                         *0; *  Theo Jakobus                                           *s; *  Fraunhofer-Institut fuer Angewandte Festkoerperphysik  *c; *  Tullastr. 72                                           *n; *  D-79108 Freiburg                                       *h; *  Germany                                                *a; *  Phone:   +49-(0)761-5159-325                           *s; *  FAX :    +49-(0)761-5159-200                           *h; *  e-mail:  Theo.Jakobus@iaf.fhg.de                       *S; *  http://www.iaf.fhg.de                                  *l; *                                                         *s; ***********************************************************    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 11:55:12 -0400e0 From: Paul Anderson <paul.r.anderson@compaq.com>( Subject: Re: [DCPS, UCX] short questions; Message-ID: <111020011155127540%paul.r.anderson@compaq.com>   < In article <3bc5a29c$1@news.kapsch.co.at>, Peter LANGSTOEGER <eplan@kapsch.net> wrote:O  C > Does DCPS V2.0 work over TCP/IP (UCX) on OpenVMS Alpha V7.1-1H1 ?aB > Which TCP/IP version ? License problems (DCPS-OPEN, DCPS-PLUS) ?  A DCPS V2.0, although supported only on the more recent versions ofiA OpenVMS and TCP/IP Services, will install and work as far back asrD OpenVMS Alpha V6.1 with TCP/IP Services V4.0, and OpenVMS VAX V5.5-2 with UCX V3.3.   Paul   -- a  Paul Anderson   OpenVMS Engineerings   Compaq Computer Corporation    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Oct 2001 16:37:51 +0200* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)L Subject: Re: [OpenVMS] V7.2 VAX satellite doesn't find V7.3 Alpha bootserver* Message-ID: <3bc5aebf$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  j In article <3BC515EA.63980A83@ipl.demon.co.nospam.uk>, Steve Reece <SYSTEM@ipl.demon.co.nospam.uk> writes:I >What was the backup command you used Peter?  If the configuration of themI >disk serving hasn't changed then could it be that the disk structure goto2 >zapped (in relative terms) when doing the backup?  K Sorry, now. A simple $ BACKUP/IGN=INT disk1:/IMAGE disk2: Later, I even didc> a $ INIT/CLU=1/OW=SYSTEM/US=SYSTEM disk2 and the corresponding+ $ BACKUP/IGN=INT disk1:/IMAGE disk2:/NOINITa  L This ODS2a disk (just like the ODS2 variant - I tried all 4 comb.) does workI as a standalone system disk, but not a HSJ based MSCP served system disk.S   Very strange indeed...   -- o< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888y< <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.566 ************************