1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 14 Oct 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 572       Contents:) Re: Announcing ht://Dig 3.1.5 for OpenVMS  Re: BASIC 3.9/1.4 features? ( Blast from past: shape of things to come7 How does one define a print queue on a network printer? ; Re: How does one define a print queue on a network printer?  Re: jobs? ingres vax/vms cobol Re: jobs? ingres vax/vms cobol* Re: Secure Chat Server for VMS has arrived7 Re: SEDT problems on RedHat 7.1 (was Re: EDT for Linux)  Re: SYSTEM-F-IVDEVNAM 
 VMS Download? 
 VMS Download?  VMS future, a sense of deja vu" Re: VMS future, a sense of deja vu, Re: We've burned our boats say Compaq and HP$ Re: WSJ reporting HP will buy Compaq  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 16:03:17 +0200 < From: "Martin Vorlaender" <martin.vorlaender@pdv-systeme.de>2 Subject: Re: Announcing ht://Dig 3.1.5 for OpenVMS4 Message-ID: <9qc5vf$n2fqm$1@ID-56200.news.dfncis.de>   Time for the next iteration...  > I announce release 4 of my port of ht://Dig 3.1.5 for OpenVMS.5 This is the first release that really earns the name.   D The indexing process itself hasn't been touched this time, but emailG notification now is functional, and everything works now if the process H (especially htsearch) has access to the data files only via ACLs (thanks to Rick and Patrick).   F The files at ftp://ftp.pdv-systeme.de/vms/ are (sizes given in blocks)  K htdig-3_1_5-vms-rel4.zip         binaries for OpenVMS Alpha V7.2-1H1 (2363) 1 htdig-3_1_5-vms-data.zip         data files (929) ; htdig-3_1_5-vms-rel4-src.zip     source distribution (7315) J htdig-3_1_5-vms-rel4-diff.zip    GNU diff file, taken against the original=                                  Unix 3.1.5 distribution (96)   7 You'll need UNZIP V5.2 or later to unpack the archives.   C Next on the list is a PCSI distribution and, of course, bug fixing.    Enjoy,   Martin --  J One OS to rule them all       | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer7 One OS to find them           | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de J One OS to bring them all      |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/? And in the Darkness bind them.| home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de     ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 10:45:07 +0200   From: Paul Sture <paul@sture.ch>$ Subject: Re: BASIC 3.9/1.4 features?+ Message-ID: <VA.0000047d.12f20985@sture.ch>   D In article <9qaak9$i30$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net>, Randy Park wrote:: > Does anyone know what features have been introduced into: > BASIC 3.9/1.4?  In looked at Compaq's web pages the only; > thing I could see was a marketing type page that outlined 9 > various broad features, but it wasn't very specific.  I < > notice that it mentioned IEEE floating point support.  I'm: > aware of the DATE4$() support from the previous version. > < > Does the IEEE floating support extend to the Vax compiler?= > Are there any other new features?  I looked for the release 4 > notes but could not find them.  Thanks in advance. > 0 Hmm. I couldn't find an index listing of SPDs...  ? http://www.openvms.compaq.com/commercial/basic/basic_index.html 6 states that IEEE floating point support is Alpha only.  ) After some searching, I found the SPD at  . http://www.compaq.com/info/SP2536/SP2536pf.pdf ___ 
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 02:20:59 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> 1 Subject: Blast from past: shape of things to come , Message-ID: <3BC92EB0.3E1CF170@videotron.ca>  2 $TYPE   SYS$COMMON:[SYSHLP.EXAMPLES.DECW]DNDdemo.C  % Check out the copyright information !    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 09:55:41 +0200 > From: "No'am Newman - IT Manager" <noamn@tzorafurniture.co.il>@ Subject: How does one define a print queue on a network printer?( Message-ID: <3bc9450e@news.bezeqint.net>  J Until now, I've defined printer queues on printers which are connected viaL Decservers. How can I define a printer queue on a printer which is connectedG solely by TCP/IP? I'm using the Intel InBusiness Print Station and I've  defined its IP address.    ------------------------------   Date: 14 Oct 2001 09:10:48 GMT) From: leslie@clio.rice.edu (Jerry Leslie) D Subject: Re: How does one define a print queue on a network printer?' Message-ID: <9qbkqo$625$1@joe.rice.edu>   = No'am Newman - IT Manager (noamn@tzorafurniture.co.il) wrote: L : Until now, I've defined printer queues on printers which are connected viaN : Decservers. How can I define a printer queue on a printer which is connectedI : solely by TCP/IP? I'm using the Intel InBusiness Print Station and I've  : defined its IP address.   I Here's a DCL script to define SYS$PRINT for an HP JetDirect Print Server,  which uses port 9100:   5   $ DEFINE/SYSTEM UCX$TELNETSYM_SUPRESS_FORMFEEDS  34 ?   $ INIT/QUE/START/ON="138.53.135.5:9100"/PROC=UCX$TELNETSYM/ - .     DEFAULT=(NOBURST,NOFLAG,NOTRAIL,NOFEED)/ -.     DEVICE=PRINTER /RECORD_BLOCKING  SYS$PRINT  9 Check the Intel's documentation to see what port it uses.    --Jerry Leslie   ------------------------------   Date: 14 Oct 2001 09:16:54 GMT) From: leslie@clio.rice.edu (Jerry Leslie) ' Subject: Re: jobs? ingres vax/vms cobol ' Message-ID: <9qbl66$625$2@joe.rice.edu>   0 David J. Dachtera (djesys.nospam@fsi.net) wrote: : 1076366@home.com wrote:  : > , : > where do we find jobs in ingres or cobol : > on vax vms?  :  : Mostly in the history books. :  LOL, sad but true :-)   D Before the Great Tech Wreck, this site might have been of some help:     http://openvms.monster.com/   5 But Monster has fallen victim to he Great Tech Wreck:   4    http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200-7410713.html  '   "Monster.com sends staff to job board 
    By Reuters !    October 4, 2001, 11:55 a.m. PT   I    Monster.com may add to the ranks of job seekers posting resumes on its ?    site as it cuts 10 percent of its own staff to save costs. A F    representative for the popular online job finder, based in Maynard,G    Mass., said the cuts are in response to a sharp downturn in business H    seen since Sept. 11's terrorist attacks. Monster.com said the layoffsH    also reflected improved efficiencies achieved through acquisitions of    rival sites..."  D A friend emailed me that she knows someone at Monster who said that * the remaining staff had their pay cut 10%.   --Jerry Leslie   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 07:15:08 -0400 ' From: Ken Robinson <kenrbnsn@rbnsn.com> ' Subject: Re: jobs? ingres vax/vms cobol ? Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20011014071346.03993080@mail.rbnsn.com>   3 At 12:44 AM 10/13/01 +0000, 1076366@home.com wrote: ) >where do we find jobs in ingres or cobol  >on vax vms? >  >1076366@home.com     @ You don't say where you are located, but take a look at this urlC   <http://www.net-temps.com/jpost.htm/commanlr?c=1059&hl=%28vax%29>    Job is in Livingston, NJ...    Ken Robinson   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 09:48:06 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)3 Subject: Re: Secure Chat Server for VMS has arrived L Message-ID: <rdeininger-1410010948060001@user-2ive7u7.dialup.mindspring.com>  > In article <tsi6015s3iu21f@corp.supernews.com>, "news.dsl.net" <hello@hello.com> wrote:   > Greetings, >  > http://www.jabcast.com  H A blank web page, except for an annoying credit card ad.  I already have enough credit cards, thanks.   The validator service at  ,    http://validator.w3.org/ doesn't like it.  H Aha!  It's a bunch of Shockwave and Javascript.  Oh well.  Might as well be a blank page.  6 > Secure, stable, scalable and totally cross platform.   :-)     - > VMS chat server based on Jabber technology.  >  > ( http://www.jabber.org )   ? This web page isn't blank, but I can't find anything about VMS.     > Jabcast is HERE  for VMS.    Sorry, I couldn't find it.   --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 11:00:24 +0200 2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender)@ Subject: Re: SEDT problems on RedHat 7.1 (was Re: EDT for Linux); Message-ID: <3bc95428.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>   - Brian W. Masinick (masinick@yahoo.com) wrote:  > I'm a text editing buff, too.    Me too.   H > Anker Berg-Sonne (author of SEDT), John E. Davis, (author of Jed), andL > Barry Scott (author of Bemacs) have done credible jobs with their editors.  I May I add Daniel M. Lawrence (author of MicroEMACS) to that hall of fame?   D It's been a while since work has been done on that editor (IIRC, theG latest version 4.0 dates from March 1996) but IMHO this also is a great = cross-platform editor - there even is an SMG version for VMS.   C I use it all the time (on VMS, Linux, Tru64, WinXX, OS/2, and DOS). A The sources and binaries for Alpha and VAX can be downloaded from @ ftp://ftp.pdv-systeme.de/vms/ue400dev-vms.zip, ue400axp.zip, and ue400vax.zip, respectively.   E Right now, I don't have the original URL to the sources handy, but if D anyone is interested, drop me a note - I'm sure I have it somewhere.7 (I had to tweak the sources a little bit, but not much)    cu,    Martin --  D                        |  Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer1   OpenVMS: When you    |  work: mv@pdv-systeme.de E   KNOW where you want  |     http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/ 8   to go today.         |  home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Oct 2001 02:06:22 -0700& From: hari_cit@hotmail.com (Hariharan) Subject: Re: SYSTEM-F-IVDEVNAM= Message-ID: <55c0fe56.0110140106.1ee10582@posting.google.com>   \ carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) wrote in message news:<13OCT200104130800@gerg.tamu.edu>..., > hari_cit@hotmail.com (Hariharan) writes...I > }I create a mailbox and assigning a channel associating "NWAO:"(network  > }mailbox).D > }But from the qio call I am getting "IVDEVNAM" in the IOSB status. > 1 > It is telling you that there is no such device.  > @ > What makes you think that "NWA0:" is what you should be using? > A > When I've done this sort of thing, the network device name used > > as the first parameter of the Sys$Assign() has been "_NET:". > 
 > --- Carl    @ > What makes you think that "NWA0:" is what you should be using?    D I am trying to establish a X25 link between two nodes and that's whyA I use the device "_NWA0:".All the "_NET:" device type are unknown  ($sh dev net0/full).    For "_NWA0:",($sh dev nwa0/full)  O Device NWA0:, device type X.25 datalink, is online, mailbox device, device is a      template only.  K I tried with "_NET:" device and I get SYSTEM-F-NOMBX after the assign call.    Thaks for ur suggestion.   Thans & Regards, Hari.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 22:24:40 +0200 + From: Christian Hahn <christianhahn@web.de>  Subject: VMS Download?% Message-ID: <3BC8A308.2756EE6@web.de>    Hello,D i have a DEC 3000/300 (150MHz, 64RAM, 1GB HDD, ext. CDROM) buy for a sixpack of beer :)C Where can i become the OS VMS? Can i download this from any server? , Which version is the best for this maschine?  2 Thanks for help. (... and excuse my bad english :)     -- =  " Gr=FC=DFe aus Kiel, Christian Hahn  	 Have fun.   .     |  | ||| | | |||| |   | | || ||    ##### =  -     |Registered Linux user #192696|  _/_ #### 1     |  | ||| | | |||| |   | | || || [.[.]-=3D## =   /     |  | ||| | | |||| |   | | || ||  /_    )# =   ,     |  | ||| | | |||| |   | | || ||  |__/  /+     |  | ChristianHahn@web.de || ||   \___/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:35:04 +0200 + From: Christian Hahn <christianhahn@web.de>  Subject: VMS Download?& Message-ID: <3BC9B0A8.59EB8111@web.de>   Hello,D i have a DEC 3000/300 (150MHz, 64RAM, 1GB HDD, ext. CDROM) buy for a sixpack of beer :)C Where can i become the OS VMS? Can i download this from any server? , Which version is the best for this maschine?  2 Thanks for help. (... and excuse my bad english :)     -- =  " Gr=FC=DFe aus Kiel, Christian Hahn  	 Have fun.   .     |  | ||| | | |||| |   | | || ||    ##### =  -     |Registered Linux user #192696|  _/_ #### 1     |  | ||| | | |||| |   | | || || [.[.]-=3D## =   /     |  | ||| | | |||| |   | | || ||  /_    )# =   ,     |  | ||| | | |||| |   | | || ||  |__/  /+     |  | ChristianHahn@web.de || ||   \___/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 12:52:29 GMT ( From: Dave Hamby <dlhamby@earthlink.net>' Subject: VMS future, a sense of deja vu F Message-ID: <hUfy7.17156$0Z6.1380740@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>  G Those of us who have been around a while recall when HP bought Apollo.  L Apollo was one of the two innovators that developed the modern workstation. J This system had a number of good features including impressive VM, single J system image of all storage, slick VM and memory mapped file system. Unix H API compatibility, and a stable of significant CAD and CAE applications.  C At the time, HP was desparate to escape from the shadow of Sun and  I acquiring the #2 workstation manufacturer was a way to do it. To placate  K the Apollo customer base, many promises were made to those who were new to  F Apollo and worrying about the code ports they were making or about to L undertake. HP promised to continue the product line in a vague sort of way. I The reality was that HP-UX continued on. None of the Aegis features that  G made the Apollo magic were adopted. The beautiful VM and single system  F image that came naturally from APOLLO Domain and Aegis where all lost.  J I expect that HP will do the same with the Compaq purchase. They will sit J down with feature lists, make check marks, and do something. If HP-UX has K pretty good feature coverage, the Compaq equivalent wil be abandoned. This  J is easier to see for True-64 but VMS is also at risk. Fortunately, VMS is K entrenched in many financial, brokerage, and exchange back-office systems.  K The support revenues and vocal nature of this market segment may sway HP's   policy.   L  Though no VMS cheerleader, I respect the VMS event model and would hate to H loose it. The AST is elegant and, used with object pointers, eliminates K many of the difficulties of doing event driven programming. Unfortunately,  I the AST is so fundamentally a part of the OS architecture that it cannot  E easily be retrofitted to another OS. If the financials do not make a  < compelling case for continuing VMS, I believe HP will ax it.   --  
 Dave Hamby Lance, just a country greyhound 2 Dinky <- Fox Lee Sarina <- Unruly Rocket <- Unruly   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Oct 2001 11:19:18 -0500+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) + Subject: Re: VMS future, a sense of deja vu 3 Message-ID: <n9zkhJYGqY9I@eisner.encompasserve.org>   q In article <hUfy7.17156$0Z6.1380740@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net>, Dave Hamby <dlhamby@earthlink.net> writes:    > N >  Though no VMS cheerleader, I respect the VMS event model and would hate to J > loose it. The AST is elegant and, used with object pointers, eliminates M > many of the difficulties of doing event driven programming. Unfortunately,  K > the AST is so fundamentally a part of the OS architecture that it cannot  G > easily be retrofitted to another OS. If the financials do not make a  > > compelling case for continuing VMS, I believe HP will ax it. >   ; 	Another new voice for VMS Doom and Gloom.  Welcome aboard.   ? 	You have a few good points.  But it isn't just financials that ? 	have big VMS investments.  The U.S. Federal Government has big A 	VMS investments.  But that is just one concern.  Another big VMS > 	advantage that is always (most always) is the money it brings= 	in for such little cost (several hundred engineers backed by < 	several thousand support staff).  Sure, even in a decliningA 	market it still makes nice money.  Now the contarian argument to < 	that is "divest to focus on core technologies" , i.e. can't= 	have all these OSes, all these printers , etc.  Perhaps that A 	would be a stronger argument.  But then again, you are giving up ? 	a very good money maker.  PCs are like popcorn.  Billions and  A 	billions in revenues and no money to be made.  Bad business, eh? - 	Not bad for Dell but they are fairly unique.   E 	Apollo?  They weren't making much money, so that was an easy "kill."u   				Robs   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 16:03:15 GMT * From: Chuckie Cheese <Chuckie@Cheese.nuts>5 Subject: Re: We've burned our boats say Compaq and HPu+ Message-ID: <3BC9B8E7.86ED6820@Cheese.nuts>f  M Egghead bought ONSALE.  Laid off employees of ONSALE went to work for eBay, as competitor of Egghead.  I Dell and competitors of Compaq have hired a few bread-and-butter laid offw employees of Compaq, ...  :-(T  G President Bush is successful BECAUSE he does not burn his boats, and he J retains the right people around him.  He is focused and he has no excuses.   Jerry Leslie wrote:t  < > Brian Tillman (tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com) wrote:9 > : >Why is it that the ones who drive companies into the1< > : >dirt are always so sure that they're doing a great job? > :sH > : Because they wind up with so much money after the smoke clears away.= > : Lots of recompense equals good job, in the minds of many.t > :o6 >    http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1007-200-7493691.htmlC >    Bankruptcy not a stigma for some CEOs -  Tech News -  CNET.com  >  >   "By Dawn Kawamotos  >    Staff Writer, CNET News.com# >    October 11, 2001, 1:25 p.m. PTi >lD >    Jeffrey Sheahan is the latest ex-CEO with the bankruptcy blues. >eH >    The chief executive of Egghead.com joins a growing number of formerI >    chief executives who saw their companies file for bankruptcy and are-K >    now looking for the next opportunity in a tough market. The bankruptcy-I >    isn't a bright spot on his record, but the stigma generally attached  >    to the label is fading. >tG >    In part, that's because there are so many companies going bankrupt B >    that it's seen as more common, and partly because there is anJ >    understanding that the rapid deflation of the tech market also suckedH >    down good companies with good ideas, industry observers say. But it" >    can still be a black mark..."   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 07:31:00 GMT ( From: "JeanLuc" <jeanLuc@Enterprise.com>- Subject: Re: WSJ reporting HP will buy Compaqs4 Message-ID: <Uaby7.240$mf.52953241@news.randori.com>    NOw that is the real scary part.  < Back in 74 HP could not see the market for a NonStop system., Have the scales fallen from their eyes yet??   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.572 ************************