1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 15 Oct 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 573       Contents:# (newbie) what can i learn from vms? ' Re: (newbie) what can i learn from vms? ' Re: (newbie) what can i learn from vms? P Re: can NFS client choose to mount over tcp or udp depending upon the NFS server) Re: DEC BASIC --> Visual Basic Translator ) Re: DEC BASIC --> Visual Basic Translator  Re: DEC VAX Users  Re: DEC VAX Users  Re: jobs? ingres vax/vms cobol Re: jobs? ingres vax/vms cobol Re: ping source code for VMS Re: ping source code for VMS. Questions on SANWorks Storage Resource Manager Re: VMS Download? " Re: VMS future, a sense of deja vu" Re: VMS future, a sense of deja vu  Re: [LYRIS] OpenVMS Patches List  Re: [LYRIS] OpenVMS Patches List  Re: [LYRIS] OpenVMS Patches List  Re: [LYRIS] OpenVMS Patches List  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 14 Oct 2001 13:47:17 -0700# From: cyberflash@c4.com (fullforce) , Subject: (newbie) what can i learn from vms?= Message-ID: <ad3bdf6d.0110141247.186dc080@posting.google.com>    whatup--B I'm interested in learning the commands and what not for vms. JustC need some pointers on where i should start. I have a shell account, ; but am a little lost with some of the commands. any help is  appreciated.   Thanks,  Nate   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 22:44:00 +0100  From: nic <junk@127.0.0.1>0 Subject: Re: (newbie) what can i learn from vms?) Message-ID: <3BCA0720.5DA70B69@127.0.0.1>    fullforce wrote:
 > whatup--D > I'm interested in learning the commands and what not for vms. JustE > need some pointers on where i should start. I have a shell account, = > but am a little lost with some of the commands. any help is  > appreciated.    HELP is the best one! seriously.   $ HELP  H The CAPITAL 'words' are commands, the Lowercased 'words' are guidelines,E Hints is a good one, try $ HELP HINTS and of course do take a look at @ the FAQ linked from http://ww.openvms.compaq.com/ and there is a9 beginners FAQ as well, but I don't have the link to hand.   	 have fun.  --   Regards, Nic Clews (from home), nic at python dot demon dot co dot uk (play) nclews at csc dot com (work)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:47:55 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)0 Subject: Re: (newbie) what can i learn from vms?L Message-ID: <rdeininger-1410011847550001@user-2ive6rf.dialup.mindspring.com>  = In article <ad3bdf6d.0110141247.186dc080@posting.google.com>, $ cyberflash@c4.com (fullforce) wrote:  
 > whatup--D > I'm interested in learning the commands and what not for vms. JustE > need some pointers on where i should start. I have a shell account, = > but am a little lost with some of the commands. any help is  > appreciated.  I In addition to the HELP command already mentioned, you might want to look B at the VMS documentation set, and specifically the "OpenVMS User's Manual":E    http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/index.html    (This page is the  index to the whole doc set.)  < You can get the user's manual in either html or pdf formats:?    http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/73final/6489/6489pro.html P    http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/73final/documentation/pdf/OVMS_73_USER.pdf  C Also, find the openvms FAQ, which is linked from the vms home page:     www.openvms.compaq.com    --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:02:05 +1000 B From: "Matt Muggeridge" <Matt.Muggeridge@compaq.ssppaammffree.com>Y Subject: Re: can NFS client choose to mount over tcp or udp depending upon the NFS server 1 Message-ID: <NBqy7.401$RL6.3111@news.cpqcorp.net>   D > Is there a way for a user of the VMS NFS client system to use someH > file systems over UDP and some other file systems over TCP at the same > time ?   In short... no.   K In V5.1 the NFS Server was upgraded to support NFSV3 and you can connect to I it using TCP or UDP.  However, the NFS Client was not modified and as yet & does not support connections over TCP.   Matt.     > "Michle Magenc" <mmagenc@proxis-services.fr> wrote in message7 news:6c0a4ed0.0110120924.473a1343@posting.google.com... 	 > Hello !  > G > This question relates to tcp/ip services for openVMS Version 5.0A eco 
 > 3 or 5.1 > - > The VMS system is configured as NFS client. F > The associated NFS servers may provide NFS services over TCP or UDP. > D > Is there a way for a user of the VMS NFS client system to use someH > file systems over UDP and some other file systems over TCP at the sameD > time ? This would produce the equivalent of unix 'mount -o tcp' or > 'mount proto=tcp' commands . > . > Thanks in advance and best regards , Michle   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:02:30 -0700 + From: "xenman" <xenman@sprynet.com.nospaam> 2 Subject: Re: DEC BASIC --> Visual Basic Translator2 Message-ID: <9qcr7d$dqs$1@slb4.atl.mindspring.net>  L Kevin Handy <kth@srv.net> wrote in message news:3BC8B76E.B9B66A61@srv.net... > Randy Park wrote:  > > < > > Does anyone have experience with the DEC Basic to Visual3 > > Basic translator?  If so, what is your opinion?  > > 8 > > I know this is a big question, but I just doing some= > > preliminary research on whether I should investigate this  > > product in more detail.  > @ > Is going to Visual Basic any real gain?  I'd think it would be? > better to translate it into something more portable like C++.  > @ > If you want to try a (in development, but slowly) Vax Basic to- > C++ translator, try http://www.srv.net/~kth = > There is a lot it doesn't yet handle, but depending on your = > original code it might help you convert it. Easily compiles @ > on a Linux Box, you might have to work to compile it somewhere > else. Patches welcome. >   ? I don't know if going to Visual Basic would be a gain, which is  why I'm asking the question.  A If portability was important to begin with, the software wouldn't > be in DEC Basic.  If it was to be rewritten for portability, IA would pick a highly portable language, which would exclude Basic, ; C, and a few others.  I don't know enough about C++ to make > a judgement, but since this software is quite a bit older than? the C++ language, and not very adaptable to the object oriented + model, I doubt if it would port well to it.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:13:34 -0700 2 From: "Randy Park" <rjpark@mindspring.com.nospaam>2 Subject: Re: DEC BASIC --> Visual Basic Translator2 Message-ID: <9qcrnt$nq5$1@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>  L Kevin Handy <kth@srv.net> wrote in message news:3BC8B76E.B9B66A61@srv.net... > Randy Park wrote:  > > < > > Does anyone have experience with the DEC Basic to Visual3 > > Basic translator?  If so, what is your opinion?  > > 8 > > I know this is a big question, but I just doing some= > > preliminary research on whether I should investigate this  > > product in more detail.  > @ > Is going to Visual Basic any real gain?  I'd think it would be? > better to translate it into something more portable like C++.  > @ > If you want to try a (in development, but slowly) Vax Basic to- > C++ translator, try http://www.srv.net/~kth = > There is a lot it doesn't yet handle, but depending on your = > original code it might help you convert it. Easily compiles @ > on a Linux Box, you might have to work to compile it somewhere > else. Patches welcome. >   ? I don't know if going to Visual Basic would be a gain, which is  why I'm asking the question.  A If portability was important to begin with, the software wouldn't > be in DEC Basic.  If it was to be rewritten for portability, IA would pick a highly portable language, which would exclude Basic, ; C, and a few others.  I don't know enough about C++ to make > a judgement, but since this software is quite a bit older than? the C++ language, and not very adaptable to the object oriented + model, I doubt if it would port well to it.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 22:55:33 +0100  From: nic <junk@127.0.0.1> Subject: Re: DEC VAX Users( Message-ID: <3BCA09D5.2C47B48@127.0.0.1>   David Tarbox-Cooper wrote: > A > Can anybody tell me a legitimate, or otherwise, way to identify ' > companies/sites still using DEC VAXs.   H Using either legitimate or illegal means, you'll still not identify all.   --   Regards, Nic Clews (from home), nic at python dot demon dot co dot uk (play) nclews at csc dot com (work)   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Oct 2001 17:11:46 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)  Subject: Re: DEC VAX Users3 Message-ID: <47FH6+$F3QD4@eisner.encompasserve.org>   E In article <3BCA09D5.2C47B48@127.0.0.1>, nic <junk@127.0.0.1> writes:  > David Tarbox-Cooper wrote: >>  B >> Can anybody tell me a legitimate, or otherwise, way to identify( >> companies/sites still using DEC VAXs. > J > Using either legitimate or illegal means, you'll still not identify all.  G There are at least some sites using VAX that would regard any inquiries L regarding their configurations even less amicably than prior to 11-Sep-2001.   Hint: They have guns.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:40:34 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)' Subject: Re: jobs? ingres vax/vms cobol L Message-ID: <rdeininger-1410011840340001@user-2ive6rf.dialup.mindspring.com>  C In article <9qbl66$625$2@joe.rice.edu>, leslie@clio.rice.edu (Jerry  Leslie) wrote:  2 > David J. Dachtera (djesys.nospam@fsi.net) wrote: > : 1076366@home.com wrote:  > : > . > : > where do we find jobs in ingres or cobol > : > on vax vms?  > :   > : Mostly in the history books. > :  > LOL, sad but true :-)  > F > Before the Great Tech Wreck, this site might have been of some help: >  >   http://openvms.monster.com/  > 7 > But Monster has fallen victim to he Great Tech Wreck:   J C'mon, Jerry, you're exaggerating.  The job web site is still in business:  '   http://jobsearch.openvms.monster.com/   E A search for cobol or ingres turns up quite a few hits.  For example, 2 here's a Cobol/ingres position in Spartanburg, SC:9    http://jobsearch.openvms.monster.com/jobs/12987043.asp   6 (If I even knew what ingres is, I might apply for it.)   There's also    www.dice.com     www.headhunter.net     www.computerjobs.com  and probably many more.    --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------   Date: 15 Oct 2001 00:43:06 GMT) From: leslie@clio.rice.edu (Jerry Leslie) ' Subject: Re: jobs? ingres vax/vms cobol ' Message-ID: <9qdbeq$o89$1@joe.rice.edu>   3 Robert Deininger (rdeininger@mindspring.com) wrote:  : L : C'mon, Jerry, you're exaggerating.  The job web site is still in business: : ) :   http://jobsearch.openvms.monster.com/  : ? Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that the site was down, just that 0 its maintenance might suffer because of layoffs.  A VMS postings for Houston on http://openvms.monster.com/ will NOT  B be listed on the web page of the company doing the recruiting, or C that company will reply that the jobs is filled, if they bother to  > reply at all. A laid-off techwriter friend also has seen this.  E For example, a search  for "vms or openvms or vax" for Houston turns  B up eleven ("11") jobs. The one opening for a system manager shows : up as "Senior VMS Systems Administrator " with Metrois.com  F A search of www.metrois.com for "vms" in all of their locations finds E a match in Winston-Salem, NC, not in Houston. I had already sent them C a resume on September 26, before noticing their site didn't reflect F any VMS positions in Houston, so it's little wonder they didn't reply.  G : A search for cobol or ingres turns up quite a few hits.  For example, 4 : here's a Cobol/ingres position in Spartanburg, SC:; :    http://jobsearch.openvms.monster.com/jobs/12987043.asp   8 : (If I even knew what ingres is, I might apply for it.)  H I'm still tied by family to Houston, which  seems to be Ground Zero for G the Great Tech Wreck, or I'd look for VMS positions anywhere, including C Saudi Arabia and Kuwait (I know about the Canadian shot last week).    : There's also :    www.dice.com  :    www.headhunter.net  :    www.computerjobs.com  : and probably many more.   " Thanks, Robert, I'll take a look.   H What I'm seeing is that IT salaries have dropped over the last year, so > that the IT jobs available are those that pay ~50,000 or less.   --Jerry Leslie  G P.S.: The Yahoo HWP message board mentioned something about 60% salary  @       cuts for H-P folks. 40% of one's salary is better than 0%.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:07:46 GMT - From: goathunter@goatley.com (Hunter Goatley) % Subject: Re: ping source code for VMS 0 Message-ID: <3bc9ef6e.16439909@news.process.com>  P On Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:38:27 +0200, "Joachim Gantenberg" <jo.gant@web.de> wrote:   >Hi, > 3 >does anyone have the source code for ping for vms? 5 >I need the port of the UNIX-tool for a project in C.  > 6 You can find the source for a PING program (as well as( a callable PING() routine) for VMS here:   http://www.process.com/openvms/   = ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/fileserv/callable-ping.zip   ; This version was posted to Info-MultiNet by Stuart Vance in : 1996 and cleaned up by me in 1997 to compile for MultiNet,< TCPware, and UCX, and to serve as a callable ping() routine.   Hunter ------9 Hunter Goatley, Process Software, http://www.process.com/ 9 goathunter@goatley.com     http://www.goatley.com/hunter/    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 11:06:34 +1000 B From: "Matt Muggeridge" <Matt.Muggeridge@compaq.ssppaammffree.com>% Subject: Re: ping source code for VMS 1 Message-ID: <%Fqy7.402$RL6.3052@news.cpqcorp.net>   9 Assuming you are using late versions of VMS and TCP/IP...   I If you have the UNIX sources, then it should port very easily... maybe as K simple as a recompile on VMS - often very little extra is needed for simple 
 applications.    Matt.   6 "Joachim Gantenberg" <jo.gant@web.de> wrote in message+ news:9q6h7i$1cds$1@wrath.news.nacamar.de...  > Hi,  > 4 > does anyone have the source code for ping for vms?6 > I need the port of the UNIX-tool for a project in C. >  > Thanks >  > _____________  > J.Gantenberg > JGantenberg@psi.de >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 16:42:59 -0400  From: <mail@nowhere.com>7 Subject: Questions on SANWorks Storage Resource Manager / Message-ID: <tsju6k86e1p433@corp.supernews.com>    Hi everyone,  E Has anyone used SANworks Storage Resource Manager Agents for OpenVMS?   . If so, any feedback or gotchas would be great.   Thanks, 
 Andrew Robert    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 20:41:43 +0200 * From: Mike Rechtman <rechtman@tzora.co.il> Subject: Re: VMS Download?* Message-ID: <3BC9DC67.2040208@tzora.co.il>   You will need:7 1. A VMS distribution (CD) (obtain cf. below or borrow) , 2. VMS license  (obtainable free, see below): 3. Kits for whatever products (compilers, tools etc.) you  wish to install      (same as #1.)  and > 4. Licenses for the products you want to install (same as #2.)  ) Sounds like a lot - well it's not really.   Go to the OpenVMS Hobbyist page:7 http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/ and start from there. 9 You can get a copy of the OpenVMS distribution there, or   borrow from a site5 near you (try to find your local Decus organization.)    Also have a look at the FAQ:  + http://eisner.encompasserve.org/vms/faq.htm ; where there are pointers to _many_ other VMS-related sites.   
 Best of luck,  Mike   Christian Hahn wrote:    > Hello,F > i have a DEC 3000/300 (150MHz, 64RAM, 1GB HDD, ext. CDROM) buy for a > sixpack of beer :)E > Where can i become the OS VMS? Can i download this from any server? . > Which version is the best for this maschine? > 4 > Thanks for help. (... and excuse my bad english :) >  >  >      --  E --------------------------------------------------------------------- ; Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not  
 even that.? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* / Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice   (home):(972)-2-99083377    "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes   another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------w* ------ GEEK CODE BLOCK (Version: 3.1)-----( GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++' N++ K? w--- V+++$ PS+ PE-- t X- tv-- b+F DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@c* ---------- END GEEK CODE BLOCK  ----------   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:32:44 GMTa* From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>+ Subject: Re: VMS future, a sense of deja vus> Message-ID: <gTky7.5641$%B.742167@bin1.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>  6 Rob Young <young_r@encompasserve.org> wrote in message- news:n9zkhJYGqY9I@eisner.encompasserve.org...    ...f   > Another big VMSu? > advantage that is always (most always) is the money it bringsR> > in for such little cost (several hundred engineers backed by= > several thousand support staff).  Sure, even in a declining-B > market it still makes nice money.  Now the contarian argument to= > that is "divest to focus on core technologies" , i.e. can't > > have all these OSes, all these printers , etc.  Perhaps thatB > would be a stronger argument.  But then again, you are giving up? > a very good money maker.  PCs are like popcorn.  Billions andr/ > billions in revenues and no money to be made.m  K Absolutely.  That's why VMS's creator stuck to its knitting, capitalized on I VMS as its premier platform, and blew the competition out of the water in @ the '90s.  Oh, wait a minute:  that's not quite what happened...  G And that's why VMS's new owner looked at how VMS profits kept it afloat I during the years when its PC business was at best breaking even, snatchedfL VMS out of the closet where DEC had banished it, trumpeted its still-leadingC clustering technology to the world, and used the resulting surge in H popularity to field Alpha successfully against the pathetic Intel 64-bitI competition, splitting the high-end 64-bit market with IBM, the mid-rangeaL with Sun and IBM, and the low-end with Sun and Hammer.  Whoops - that didn't happen either.  K But now at least we can be confident that *HP* will see the errors of VMS'siJ previous owners and fix the situation, since they're starting with a cleanE slate rather than inheriting a lot of bozos like Compaq did from DEC.-G Except for a just couple of unimportant ones like their President, CTO,m& whatever position Winkler's getting...  	 Dream on.c   - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 15:41:28 -0700u( From: "Greg Cagle" <gregc@gregcagle.com>+ Subject: Re: VMS future, a sense of deja vug/ Message-ID: <tsk51m6di61m33@corp.supernews.com>:  v "Dave Hamby" <dlhamby@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:hUfy7.17156$0Z6.1380740@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...H > Those of us who have been around a while recall when HP bought Apollo.M > Apollo was one of the two innovators that developed the modern workstation.eK > This system had a number of good features including impressive VM, singlecK > system image of all storage, slick VM and memory mapped file system. Unix/J > API compatibility, and a stable of significant CAD and CAE applications. >hD > At the time, HP was desparate to escape from the shadow of Sun andJ > acquiring the #2 workstation manufacturer was a way to do it. To placateL > the Apollo customer base, many promises were made to those who were new toG > Apollo and worrying about the code ports they were making or about to M > undertake. HP promised to continue the product line in a vague sort of way.-J > The reality was that HP-UX continued on. None of the Aegis features thatH > made the Apollo magic were adopted. The beautiful VM and single systemH > image that came naturally from APOLLO Domain and Aegis where all lost.  D I was involved to some extent in the HP/Apollo merger - I was at theG time working for Apollo's largest ISV (Mentor Graphics) and was presentrF at many of the meetings, both public and non-disclosure, regarding the future of Domain/OS.  E First, I completely agree that HP threw away a lot of good technology C with the Apollo merger. But keep in mind that Domain, beautiful andtI elegant as it was, was competing in the Unix space and was a non-standardiC solution. The NFS implementation, to choose just one example, was aoB joke: so was the Unix API support and the X server. Often the bestB solution will not survive because an alternative has more mind and< market share (see Apple vs. Windows for another data point).  B So they went about making sure the CAD and CAE apps were ported toD HP-UX, and stopped investing in Domain. The reality of the situationC is that Apollo was damn near dead anyway and had lost the standards ? war. And, as long as Domain was locked into the 68K platform itt was all over anyway.  @ Besides, at the time we were all told OSF/1 was going to replace; both HP-UX *and* Domain. Good thing we didn't believe THAT.x  ? Now, to be completely fair, some of the features of PA-RISC 1.1sB as deployed in the 700 series HP-UX workstation came directly from: Apollo's RISC machine (the 8800? I can't remember), so the$ investment wasn't a total waste 8^).  ? But to balance things out we are now all stuck with the Windowst; Registry which *also* came from Domain, or so rumor has it.   K > I expect that HP will do the same with the Compaq purchase. They will sitrK > down with feature lists, make check marks, and do something. If HP-UX has L > pretty good feature coverage, the Compaq equivalent wil be abandoned. ThisK > is easier to see for True-64 but VMS is also at risk. Fortunately, VMS is L > entrenched in many financial, brokerage, and exchange back-office systems.L > The support revenues and vocal nature of this market segment may sway HP's	 > policy.r  E And that's the key - it's not necessarily about feature sets but alsoBF about market segments and software vendor coverage. I don't think it's% necessarily as simple as it might be.s   --
 Greg Cagle gregc at gregcagle dot com   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 13:59:24 -0400t7 From: "Joseph B. Gurman" <Gurman@grace.nascom.nasa.gov>e) Subject: Re: [LYRIS] OpenVMS Patches Listo= Message-ID: <141020011359248138%Gurman@grace.nascom.nasa.gov>r  < In article <3bc5e50c$1@news.kapsch.co.at>, Peter LANGSTOEGER <eplan@kapsch.net> wrote:    [snip] > D > I finally received (at least) three mails from the VMS list today.4 > So, it seems to be (some kind of) working again...  E Guess all the VMs engineers were off working on their resumes <sigh>.R                     Joe Gurman   ------------------------------   Date: 14 Oct 2001 20:32:45 GMT) From: leslie@clio.rice.edu (Jerry Leslie)e) Subject: Re: [LYRIS] OpenVMS Patches Lists' Message-ID: <9qcspd$bcl$1@joe.rice.edu>   6 Joseph B. Gurman (Gurman@grace.nascom.nasa.gov) wrote:> : In article <3bc5e50c$1@news.kapsch.co.at>, Peter LANGSTOEGER : <eplan@kapsch.net> wrote:  :n : [snip] : > F : > I finally received (at least) three mails from the VMS list today.6 : > So, it seems to be (some kind of) working again... : G : Guess all the VMs engineers were off working on their resumes <sigh>.r : D Who'd blame them, what with H-P's recent layoffs of their HP-UX/IA64C conversion team, and H-P's status as the top employer of H-1B visa r
 holders, per:w  !   http://www.zazona.com/LCA-Data/o:   Labor Condition Application (LCA) Database Search Engine5   Find Which Companies Are Hiring Foreign Replacementn/   Workers and What Kind of Jobs They are Takingw   --Jerry Leslie     e   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 18:41:50 -0400i2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)) Subject: Re: [LYRIS] OpenVMS Patches ListuL Message-ID: <rdeininger-1410011841500001@user-2ive6rf.dialup.mindspring.com>  = In article <141020011359248138%Gurman@grace.nascom.nasa.gov>,a gurman@gsfc.nasa.gov wrote:w  > > In article <3bc5e50c$1@news.kapsch.co.at>, Peter LANGSTOEGER > <eplan@kapsch.net> wrote:  >  > [snip] > > F > > I finally received (at least) three mails from the VMS list today.6 > > So, it seems to be (some kind of) working again... > G > Guess all the VMs engineers were off working on their resumes <sigh>.D  3 Have you any evidence to support that snide remark?    --   Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.comm   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2001 17:58:29 -0500nC From: "Craig A. Berry" <craig.berry@nospam.SignalTreeSolutions.com>l) Subject: Re: [LYRIS] OpenVMS Patches ListeI Message-ID: <craig.berry-5E2A0F.17582914102001@newsrump.sjc.telocity.net>   = In article <141020011359248138%Gurman@grace.nascom.nasa.gov>,29  "Joseph B. Gurman" <Gurman@grace.nascom.nasa.gov> wrote:a  > > In article <3bc5e50c$1@news.kapsch.co.at>, Peter LANGSTOEGER > <eplan@kapsch.net> wrote:a >  > [snip] > > F > > I finally received (at least) three mails from the VMS list today.6 > > So, it seems to be (some kind of) working again... > G > Guess all the VMs engineers were off working on their resumes <sigh>.   @ There was no gap in the creation of ECOs, only in the automated F delivery of e-mail announcements of same.  Before the gap, the "From" G address was in compaq.com, and now it's in cpqcorp.net; it really just pF looks like a configuration change that wasn't managed quite perfectly  but has since been fixed.3   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.573 ************************