1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 27 Oct 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 597       Contents: Re: Advanced Server 0 Re: Another DSSI VAX cluster connection question3 Re: Anyone know of an ASCII-based mailmerge program % Anyone using Seagate ST39216N drives? 3 Re: assaults on web servers - multinet IP filtering / Re: assaults on web servers from the billyworld  Re: BMQ on Itanium, Re: CLD & error handling from within program7 Re: Future Programming Platforms - Your Opinions Wanted 7 Re: Future Programming Platforms - Your Opinions Wanted ; Re: How does one define a print queue on a network printer?   Re: MIME Compliant Mail from VMS  Re: MIME Compliant Mail from VMS  Re: MIME Compliant Mail from VMS Need Help with Multinet SMTP Re: OpenVMS startup log file?  Re: OpenVMS startup log file?  pathworks 7.2 and Win 2000 Re: pathworks 7.2 and Win 2000  Re: please reply if you see this* Re: Quotation for an AlphaServer 300 4/2667 Re: SHOCK, HORROR, VMS & TRU64 STAFF RUSHED TO HOSPITAL 7 Re: SHOCK, HORROR, VMS & TRU64 STAFF RUSHED TO HOSPITAL 7 Re: SHOCK, HORROR, VMS & TRU64 STAFF RUSHED TO HOSPITAL " Source for DE500-BA Ethernet Cards- Re: Spiralog (was Re: BCC support in VMSMAIL) - Re: Spiralog (was Re: BCC support in VMSMAIL)  Re: SSH for Alpha VMS  Re: SSH for Alpha VMS 8 Synching VMS time with NT and/or an internet time server< Re: Synching VMS time with NT and/or an internet time server< Re: Synching VMS time with NT and/or an internet time server; Re: TELNET sessions not closed, limit exceeded, how to fix? < Tuning Oracle RDB 7.0 Server and SQL on Alpha OpenVMS v7.2-1 VMS/VAX newbie.  Re: VMS/VAX newbie. 5 Re: Where to find the DCL command procedure document?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:55:00 -0400 5 From: "Brad McCusker" <brad.mccuskerNOSP@Mcompaq.com>  Subject: Re: Advanced Server3 Message-ID: <EInC7.1014$RL6.12972@news.cpqcorp.net>   6 "Patrick Young" <P.Young@unsw.EDU.AU> wrote in message7 news:55f85d77.0110232356.669f99ec@posting.google.com... 9 > Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote in message I news:<87itd6f6fs.fsf@k9.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-shoot-me>... E > > The licences you have, plus the extra 50 should be fine for up to ' > > 90 people to have access at a time.  > >  > D > I have not installed ASO 7.3 yet, however the instructions tend to7 > suggest the 7.2 client access licenses will not work.   3 That's correct, the 7.2 license won't work with 7.3    > I also foundE > in the last week the current installation of ASO 7.2a does not show E > much interest in using the new 7.3 licenses although they appear in  > the $ ADM/LIC display.  L They should use them.  I think it'll use the 7.2 licenses first.  If you get toB the point where client connects are being rejected, and the 50 7.3H licenses are not in use, give the CSC a call, something isn't configured right.   > @ > The client ASO licenses are not included under CSLG (I imagineC > that is because M$ have their grubby little fingers in the source  > code). >    Yeah, something like that.  H As for the origianl question about upgrading the 7.2 licenses, yes, they shouldJ be upgradelable, see http://www.openvms.compaq.com/pathworks/licorder.htmlG where it describes an upgrade license that is about 1/2 the cost of the  regular  license.   HTH      -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ $ The opinions expressed herein are my% own and do not represent my employer.   
 Brad McCusker # OpenVMS Advanced Server Engineering    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:15:52 GMT " From: Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca>9 Subject: Re: Another DSSI VAX cluster connection question 9 Message-ID: <Xns91467CC24DF0Ffalkarcabca@205.233.108.180>   % Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> wrote in 2 news:Xns91457D88B78E9falkarcabca@205.233.108.180:   D > A single DSSI bus can have 8 nodes.  You have at least 4.  More ifI > there are internal DSSI disks in the VAXes.  Simple check on this rule.  > I > A DSSI bus can be something like 85' long.  Unfortunately standard DSSI H > cables are fairly long, and "internal" cabling counts for quite a bit,H > too.  Typically you are limited to 5 "cabinets", so you're likely okay > on this rule, too. > # > I have a configuration like this:  >          AlphaServer 800 >          VAX 4000/100A >          HSD05 >          HSD05 >          AlphaServer DS20 D > This works perfectly.  I once tried adding another HSD05. "Almost"I > worked.  The AlphaServers at each end of the bus could "see" everything F > but each other at the >>> prompt.  Horrible results on boot attempt.  F In fact the VAX 4000/106A is connected to its B DSSI bus which has no L internal drives.  Originally I tried connecting to the A bus which included ) an internal RF36.  Same problem as noted.     B > ----------------------------------------------------------------C >   A L B E R T A         Alfred Falk               falk@arc.ab.ca  B > R E S E A R C H         Information Systems Dept   (780)450-5185- >   C O U N C I L         250 Karl Clark Road 3 >                         Edmonton, Alberta, Canada ! > http://www.arc.ab.ca/   T6N 1E4 " > http://www.arc.ab.ca/staff/falk/ >        --  @ ----------------------------------------------------------------A   A L B E R T A         Alfred Falk               falk@arc.ab.ca  @ R E S E A R C H         Information Systems Dept   (780)450-5185+   C O U N C I L         250 Karl Clark Road 1                         Edmonton, Alberta, Canada  http://www.arc.ab.ca/   T6N 1E4   http://www.arc.ab.ca/staff/falk/   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:10:02 -0400 / From: "Joe H. Gallagher" <dtrwiz@ix.netcom.com> < Subject: Re: Anyone know of an ASCII-based mailmerge program- Message-ID: <3BD9A6F4.E491231E@ix.netcom.com>   * Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr wrote: >  > VMSers --  > + > Trying to save myself a little work here.  > Q > I have an Rdb database residing on VMS (7.2-1, though it doesn't matter  much).  ><snip>   A Consider using Word-11 to create an ASCII output file (plain text B print image) in which the E-mail address is the first line of each: E-mail message section -- such as EMAIL--the-email-address  A Then use a very simple DCL command file to split the large output ) file into its individual E-mail messages.   ? All the complexity is still in the Word-11 merge document which  the users can maintain.   = The DCL command file is simple and only replies on being able @ to find the beginning of the next email message -- the line with the next email address.    Joe H. Gallagher, Ph. D.$ Former SIG Chair & Newsletter Editor) DATATRIEVE/4GL SIG of DECUS\\\\\Encompass  dtrwiz at ix dot netcom dot com " See "The DATATRIEVE Programmer" at2 http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Pines/8958/   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2001 11:52:19 -0700# From: vessey@upei.ca (Blair Vessey) . Subject: Anyone using Seagate ST39216N drives?= Message-ID: <ed2afb30.0110261052.5288b29c@posting.google.com>   	 Hi Folks,   F I've installed an ST39216N in a DEC 4000.  The firmware recognizes theH drive (at least, show dev tells me what I think I want to know), but VMS, doesn't want to have anything to do with it:  ;   Disk $1$DKB300: (VENUS), device type unknown, is offline,  file-oriented device, D       shareable, served to cluster via MSCP Server, error logging is enabled.  @ This is on a machine running V7.1 with the ALPSCSI05 patch.  I'mH planning to upgrade the machine to 7.2-2 in the hope that the drive will be supported.   7 Has anyone else had any luck using one of these drives?    Thanks,  Blair 3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 3 Blair Vessey                         VESSEY@UPEI.CA 3 Systems Manager, University of Prince Edward Island 3 Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada C1A 4P3 3 =-=  Voice: (902) 566-0388 Fax: (902) 566-0958  =-= 3 "An ounce of perception, a pound of obscure" - Rush    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 21:21:33 -0400 0 From: "Jeff Morgan" <vmswiz@geonospamcities.com>< Subject: Re: assaults on web servers - multinet IP filtering- Message-ID: <9rd2a3$4sm5$1@news3.infoave.net>    Excellent suggestion!    I just implemented it.   Thanks.     5 "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in message 7 news:d7791aa1.0110260713.54ae2096@posting.google.com... = > "Jeff Morgan" <vmswiz@geonospamcities.com> wrote in message ) news:<9rap0m$26pj$1@news3.infoave.net>...  > >  > > MULTINET:FILTER-SE1.DAT * > > drop ip 208.165.181.11 255.255.255.255* > > drop ip 208.165.228.69 255.255.255.255* > > drop ip 64.210.39.253  255.255.255.255* > > drop ip 208.180.241.43 255.255.255.255 > > permit ip 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0  > >  > > 2 > > If my filter is incorrect, please let me know. > F > the multinet packet filter process is similar to tcpware ... however instead $ > of "dropping" the packets, do this > ' >   deny ip x.x.x.x 255.255.255.255 0 0  > J > if you just drop a packet, the offender doesn't know whats happening ...J > if they are going to punish your server, then let them know by punishing theirs!    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:17:12 GMT ' From: Don Sykes <anonymous@pacbell.net> 8 Subject: Re: assaults on web servers from the billyworld+ Message-ID: <3BD9A8C5.A01FF703@pacbell.net>   H That is correct. In fact 64.164.. Does that mean the infected machine is? in my IP's block for sure? Or does the virus just insert such a 5 randomized address as part of its cloaking mechanism?    Wayne Sewell wrote:  > d > In article <9rb9jg$p1f@gap.cco.caltech.edu>, vance@alumni.caltech.edu (Vance R. Haemmerle) writes:2 > > In article <fgWITHTI0EV1@tachxxsoftxxconsult>,B > > Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.xxx.062469.killspam.00be> wrote:Y > >>In article <3BD756FA.E1B746C7@pacbell.net>, Don Sykes <anonymous@pacbell.net> writes: M > >>> I've been getting these same hits since ~ Sep 11. They occur ~ every 30 N > >>> minutes and originate from different IPs each time (usually 64.164.*.*)./ > >>> Have you noticed any similar originators?  > >>R > >>I did a search of my most recent logs just now, and most of my bogus hits fromM > >>the last few hours were coming from 216.  216.191.145.182, 216.35.116.93, ( > >>216.153.216.87, 216.95.244.178, etc. > >> > > " > >   And your IP starts with 216? >  > As a matter of fact, it does.  > ' > >These viruses are known to attack IP  > > addresses near their own.  > 4 > I see.  Don's ip address must start with 64, then. >  > --Q > =============================================================================== O > Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxx : > http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.htmlM > change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-) Q > =============================================================================== J > Randolph Duke (in Trading Places): "Mother always said you were greedy."0 > Mortimer Duke: "She meant it as a compliment!"   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 19:49:36 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>  Subject: Re: BMQ on Itanium ' Message-ID: <3BDA04A0.81624F2F@fsi.net>    arturo saavedra wrote: > K > Our entire MCI telemarketing application running on VMS relies heavily on 3 > DMQ.  We would definietely like to see it ported.   H Better let someone at work know - your telemarketing group is at seriousE risk of being visited by the U.S. Marshalls, the FCC and the Illinois G Commerce Commision if they *DARE* pull this shit about calling my house H 12 times in one day *EVER* again! Guess they didn't learn last time theyG got nailed courtesy of the Elmhurst police for calling 9-10 times a day ! *EVERY* day for nearly TWO WEEKS!   H Yesterday's incident was reported to the Carol Stream police. I will notF hesitate to prosecute to the fullest extent provide for by law, unlessG the Attorney General's office and/or the U.S. Justice Dept. beats me to  it.   E My apologies to you, Arturo - I know it's not your fault - and to the % rest of the group. I am *VERY* ANGRY!    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 19:36:22 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> 5 Subject: Re: CLD & error handling from within program ' Message-ID: <3BDA0186.3472B046@fsi.net>    Michael Zarlenga wrote:  > 6 > Christoph Gartmann <gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de> wrote:N > : I would like to use a CLD from within a Pascal program. So far, so good. IP > : wrote the .CLD-file, I wrote my program and I linked the CLD-object togetherK > : with the program object file. Everything works as expected. If I omit a Q > : required parameter, DCL asks for the paramter via LIB$GET_INPUT. If I enter a I > : valid paramter value all is fine. If I enter something invalid I get:  > E > : %CLI-W-IVKEYW, unrecognized keyword - check validity and spelling  > :  \HUGO\ 3 > : %TRACE-W-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows N > :   image    module    routine             line      rel PC           abs PCS > :                                             0 FFFFFFFF8006F0C0 FFFFFFFF8006F0C0 S > :                                             0 FFFFFFFF8006F0C0 FFFFFFFF8006F0C0 S > :                                             0 FFFFFFFF8006F0C0 FFFFFFFF8006F0C0 S > :  MIST                                       0 00000000000106B4 00000000000206B4 S > :  MIST  MIST  P_GET_COMMAND                 27 0000000000000120 0000000000020120 S > :  MIST  MIST  MIST                          39 00000000000001F8 00000000000201F8 S > :                                             0 FFFFFFFF855ED178 FFFFFFFF855ED178  > : RC=    229472  > D > I have never used CLD from Pascal but have from C and don't recallD > having to trap any signals.  Was this an accvio?  Can you post the5 > few lines before and after line 27 of your program?   " No, it wasn't an ACCVIO, it was a:  E > : %CLI-W-IVKEYW, unrecognized keyword - check validity and spelling  > :  \HUGO\     ...and it was a warning at that.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 00:52:23 GMT 3 From: Jeff Coffield <Jeffrey@DigitalSynergyInc.com> @ Subject: Re: Future Programming Platforms - Your Opinions Wanted5 Message-ID: <3BD8A581.BEB2E0E5@DigitalSynergyInc.com>    Lou Solomon wrote:   > All: > L > My (new) manager has given me the task of deciding what is going to be ourN > future programming platform.  Currently, we are both a Windows and VMS shop,H > programming in Visual Basic on Windows, and DEC Basic on VMS.  Data isM > stored on either SQL 7.0 DB or RMS files (accessed from PC's via CONNX odbc  > drivers).  > M > He is an open source advocate, and would love a solution that is reasonably N > priced, multiplatform (or at least not locking us into one OS, or one client' > platform), powerful (of course), etc.  > K > For example: should we go towards a solution where the client is always a G > web browser?  (sure makes it easy to have workers @ home, and to port   > programs over to our clients).J > What about those open source languages like Python or TCL, etc.?  And of > course, what about Java? > L > I guess I'd love any real world experiences or even philisophical musings.J > (We are still in the philosophical stage... we know it isn't going to be > easy to move over).  >  > Thanks in advance. > 
 > Lou Solomon   M Our applications are written in Alpha Basic (was Vax Basic, was Basic Plus-2,  was PDP-11 Basic) and = we were able to put a HTML/JavaScript "front end" on it using & Linux/Apache/FastCGI. The project tookO about 6 man months for around 100 programs and now about 2/3 of our users use a  browser instead ofL VT terminals or emulators. Some changes needed to be made to accommodate the block mode of a browser J but overall the users are happy and the actual CPU load decreased. I would choose RMS over any other N database for speed, stability and price. There are many opinions about all the new languages and systemsSH but, bottom line, our system has to work or about 50 property management companies can't do their jobs.L This approach allowed us to disconnect leased lines, give the customers what they asked for and we didn'tN have to rewrite all our business logic in some new language that no one really knows how to program in.  G So we currently have a program that I wrote in 1980 on a PDP-11 using ae database called User-11,N now using RMS on an Alpha and  is accessible as a secure internet application. It's on my list of thingsfN to do to get rid of the line numbers someday, but it still works and there are more pressing things to do...e  
 Jeff CoffieldM   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2001 14:06:31 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)@ Subject: Re: Future Programming Platforms - Your Opinions Wanted= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0110261306.54c0f3ca@posting.google.com>2  v Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message news:<20011025164222.35391.qmail@web20206.mail.yahoo.com>... > The future is :S > 8 > Pocket PC 2002 !!!! Youy should consider in developing7 > for this plataforms when the Wireless networks become 4 > much more reliable - it is soon. In a few years we" > will have cheap Tablet PCs too.  > 8 > Forget Palm OS - I've read that Handspring is thinking > in turn to Pocket PC.i > / > Forget the VT terminals ! Naturally obsolete.S > 5 > Forget the "Motif" for end users. But consider "KDEs. > like" interfaces - much nore user friendly. 7 > So wait for the Sharp Zaurus PDA - powered by embeded21 > Linux + Amiga graphical and develop. libraries.r > 	 > RegardsC >  > F?io Cardoso >  >  =  > F?io dos Santos Cardoso- > OpenVMS System Manager > Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  > fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br >   I vt terminals are not obsolete as our synergy dibol windows interface doeseE very well ... but i posted this a well back as how vt sessions can beiI opened thru an html browser w/html side and top bar functionality side by6H side w/your vt session thru the browser ... its a java interface and allH the server side will be handled by vms while a java script is downloadedL to the client ... ODBC drivers are headaches and sometimes have problems ...G and designing fat clients are inefficient ... vms sessions are the moste, efficient ... sorry about the caps below ...  @ ERICOM, THE COMPANY THAT SUPPORTS POWERTERM FOR PATHWORKS IS NOW PORTING THEsE FOLLOWING PRODUCTS THAT WILL ALLOW TRADITIONAL VMS VT CELL BASED APPSt TO BE C RUN AS A SESSION IN A WINDOWS BROWSER PLUS WILL BE ABLE TO ADD HTMLrF FUNCTIONALITY IN A SIDE OR TOP BAR ... AND IT SUPPORTS BOTH 80 AND 132 COLUMN@ DISPLAYS ... ALSO THE HTTP VT SESSION WILL BE ABLE TO BE SECURED EITHER WITHuC SSHV2 OR HTTPS (SSL) ... ALSO WILL HAVE PEEK & SPY CAPABILITIES AND  BROWSERi> MANAGEMENT TO SET UP USER AND SESSION SECURITY ... WOW, WHAT A PRODUCT!$ THIS WILL GIVE VMS A WHOLE NEW LIFE!   http://www.ericom.com/ptj.aspa  ( http://www.ericom.com/host_publisher.asp   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 04:40:39 GMT.' From: Zelmo Kitowski <Zelmo@^Hkiwi.net>gD Subject: Re: How does one define a print queue on a network printer?? Message-ID: <Xns9146DCF5239EB9874JK325999HR657893@24.9.139.141>b  ; If you're using UCX, it's easy.  Set it up with by running aA sys$common:[sysexe]ucx$lprsetup, ucx$lpd_startup.com will run it.     A "No'am Newman - IT Manager" <noamn@tzorafurniture.co.il> wrote in ! news:3bc9450e@news.bezeqint.net: d  H > Until now, I've defined printer queues on printers which are connectedH > via Decservers. How can I define a printer queue on a printer which isB > connected solely by TCP/IP? I'm using the Intel InBusiness Print* > Station and I've defined its IP address. >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 15:54:40 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>v) Subject: Re: MIME Compliant Mail from VMSl, Message-ID: <3BD9BF7E.164FBD22@videotron.ca>  L Another option is to use UUENCODE for the binary attachements. Many GUI mailR readers will recognize the "begin " signature and properly handle the attachement.    L This allows you to use normal vanilla VMS mail to send a message that starts4 with your text and then include some uuencoded data.  M The biggest problem with the MIME utility is the lack of automatic operation.    I'd like to see a:  7 $MC MIME mymessage.data/EXTRACT=ALL/LOG=mymessage.filesi  M the /LOG would include one line for each file that was extracted with te fileu name and perhaps mime-type.a  J After executing this, you could have a command procedure parse the log and& deal with each individual attachement.   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:39:15 GMTe+ From: Esa Laitinen <punkki@suespammers.org>m) Subject: Re: MIME Compliant Mail from VMS-8 Message-ID: <Xns9146F160FDD7DSuespammers@212.226.136.69>  F "Michael D. Ober" <mdo.@.wakeassoc.com.nospam> wrote in news:LOWB7.458 $Mw.95212@news.uswest.net:  I > How can I attach a file to a VMS generated SMTP Mail Message?  The file 2 > needs to appear as an attachement in MS-Outlook.  D You might want to look into perl. mime and mail sending modules are J available there (although they might need some tweaking for a VMS system).     --  = Beveric Ltd.  | MS BackOffice, Lotus Domino & FW-1 consulting G P.O. Box 69   | See http://www.beveric.com & http://www.iki.fi/laitinen F 01621 VANTAA  | suespammers.org is located in California; do not send H FINLAND       | unsolicited bulk or commercial e-mail to suespammers.org   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:36:43 -04000% From: "John Vottero" <John@mvpsi.com>t) Subject: Re: MIME Compliant Mail from VMSn/ Message-ID: <ttjpbthsqif130@news.supernews.com>D  ? "Michael D. Ober" <mdo.@.wakeassoc.com.nospam> wrote in messagem+ news:6rgC7.134$ji6.97774@news.uswest.net...gJ > Unfortunately, MS-Exchange 5.5/Outlook 2000 doesn't, which also excludes > MPACK - I just tried MPACK.t  K Are you sure the problem is with MPACK?  It could be VMSmail that's causingfK the problem.  VMSMail puts a blank line at the beginning of a message whichoG breaks MIME.  There are a number of ways around this problem including:n  I You can use the nbl_mailshr.exe (NBL = No Blank Line) VMS mail transport.  NBL can be found at :g( http://www.hhs.dk/anonymous/pub/vms/nbl/  ? You can use TCPIP$SMTP_SFF to send directly to the SMTP server. I TCPIP$SMTP_SFF is a part of recent versions of Compaq TCP/IP Services.  In9 believe that MultiNet and TCPware have similar utilities.l   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 00:05:20 -0400r5 From: "Steven Shamlian" <ttoom@mindspring.nospam.com> % Subject: Need Help with Multinet SMTPI2 Message-ID: <9rdbls$lo2$1@slb0.atl.mindspring.net>  G The following was posted to vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet, and no one1K responded.  It has languished in the newsgroup since 10/13 with no replies.gJ I am hoping that someone can help me, or give me something to try, or tellG me they need more information, or to just make general hateful commentsfJ about my mother.  Something, so I know you're all alive.  A solution would be nicest.  Thanks.  -Steven Shamlian   --post follows--  
 Hello all,L I need a bit of help getting SMTP up and running on my machine (a VAXstationH 4000-60 with OpenVMS V7.2 running MultiNet V4.3 Rev A-X).  When I send aK mail, the message hangs out in the SMTP_CALVIN queue for an incredibly long 
 time like so:r   $ show queue smtp_calvin/fulloA Server queue SMTP_CALVIN, busy, on CALVIN::, mounted form DEFAULTu?   /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FEED,FORM=DEFAULT) /OWNER=[SYSTEM]-E   /PROCESSOR=MULTINET_SMTP_SYMBIONT /PROTECTION=(S:RSM,O:RSD,G:R,W:R)    $ show queue smtp_calvin/allA Server queue SMTP_CALVIN, busy, on CALVIN::, mounted form DEFAULTd  4   Entry  Jobname         Username     Blocks  Status4   -----  -------         --------     ------  ------8      87  SMTP-NETMAIL    SYSTEM            2  Processing   $ sh queue MULTINET_SMTP /full" Generic server queue MULTINET_SMTPJ   /GENERIC=(SMTP_CALVIN) /OWNER=[SYSTEM] /PROTECTION=(S:RSM,O:RSD,G:R,W:R)  4   Entry  Jobname         Username     Blocks  Status4   -----  -------         --------     ------  ------F      89  SMTP-VMSMAIL    SHAMLIAN          1  Pending (check execution queues)7F          Submitted 12-OCT-2001 20:50:22.58 /FORM=DEFAULT /PRIORITY=100          File:A _$3$DKA0:[MULTINET.VAX_COMMON.MULTINET.SPOOL]SMTP-VMSMAIL.00A036E               /DELETE  3 After a bit, it times out and I get back a message:2  '     #1          13-OCT-2001 15:10:42.682 NEWMAILr$ From:   SMTP%"Postmaster@thevax.org"" To:     shamlian@calvin.thevax.org CC:5 Subj:   Undeliverable Mail  ) Date:     Sat, 13 Oct 2001 15:10:41 -0400c From:     Postmaster@thevax.org  Subject:  Undeliverable Mail& To:       <shamlian@calvin.thevax.org>5 Message-ID: <return.011013151041.20400144@thevax.org>y  % Bad address -- <not.an@earthling.net>fG Error -- (TERM) 554 Loop detected; received too many times by this host     3 ========================= Start of returned messageo ========================= H   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SMy TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 15:00:38 -0400 H   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SMt TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 14:50:36 -0400?H   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SMm TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 14:40:34 -0400lH   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SMg TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 14:30:32 -04004H   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SM  TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 14:20:25 -0400iH   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SMs TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 14:10:23 -0400aH   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SMg TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 14:00:20 -0400,H   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SMo TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 13:50:18 -0400vH   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SM  TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 13:40:15 -0400=H   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SMt TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 13:30:09 -0400tH   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SMu TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 13:20:07 -0400=H   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SMh TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 13:10:04 -0400iH   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SM  TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 13:00:02 -0400nH   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SM  TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 12:50:01 -0400MH   Received: from calvin.thevax.org ([192.168.1.52]) by calvin.thevax.org with SM  TPE             for not.an@earthling.net; Sat, 13 Oct 2001 12:39:58 -0400 :   Received: by calvin.thevax.org for not.an@earthling.net;+             Sat, 13 Oct 2001 12:29:51 -0400o'   Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 12:29:51 -0400u   From: shamlian@thevax.orgm   To:   not.an@earthling.net0   Message-Id: <011013122951.20400369@thevax.org>   Subject: Test      Test   Test  2 ========================== End of returned message ==========================   Some general info:   $ multinet config /mailo4 Process Software Mail Configuration Utility V4.3(27)L [Reading in configuration from MULTINET_ROOT:[MULTINET]START_SMTP_LOCAL.COM] [Reading in configuration from. MULTINET_COMMON_ROOT:[MULTINET]START_SMTP.COM] MAIL-CONFIG>SHOW7 SMTP host names:                             thevax.orgf>                                              hobbes.thevax.org>                                              calvin.thevax.org1 Host name alias file:                        noneyG Postmaster userid:                           none (will use POSTMASTER) 1 Forwarder:                                   nonee2 Send all REMOTE mail to forwarder:           FALSE2 Send all LOCAL mail to forwarder:            FALSE1 DECnet mail domain:                          none.- Failed local mail will be returned to sender. 7 Retry Interval:                              30 minutesm5 Return Interval:                             96 hours 5 VMS Mail REPLY control:                      REPLY-TO 2 VMS Mail header control:                     MAJOR1 Use RFC822 To: header as VMS Mail To:        TRUE 1 Lowercase username on outgoing VMS Mail:     TRUEc2 Disallow user Reply-To's:                    FALSE2 Delivery Receipts enabled:                   FALSE2 PSImail delivery disabled:                   FALSE1 Include Resent Headers on VMS MAIL forwards: TRUE C Alias file name:                             MULTINET:SMTP_ALIASES. / SEND broadcast class:                        16F1 Start queue manager:                         TRUE    Number of SMTP server queues:F  Node name          Count   ---------          -----   (default)            16   No queue groupings.   K Some more pertinent information: we're hosted by mindspring, and I was able2I to send mail from the VAX to my mindspring address, but no other domains.0J I'm thinking it's a routing/configuration problem, but I'm really not sure# how to set up Multinet to fix this.9  & Any ideas on how I can get it working? Thanks.a -Steven Shamlian= (ttoom@PleaseDontSpamMeICantHandleAllThatMeat.mindspring.com)aC And, um, remove that subdomain-ey part before you try sending mail.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 22:53:32 +0200e7 From: Lothar Geyer <Lothar.Geyer@EDV-Berater-Online.de>a& Subject: Re: OpenVMS startup log file?5 Message-ID: <3BD9CD4C.20DD758C@EDV-Berater-Online.de>o   DigiDemon schrieb: >  > Greetings all! > I > I'm a lil bit of a newbie when it comes to OpenVMS.  I have a DEC Alpha H > 4/275.  I'm trying to analye some of the startup messages, but my eyesI > don't work that fast ;-)  Any chance OPenVMS logs the startup messages?d > Thanks people :) >  > JamesD  F If you only want to look if there are error messages - use the F1 key.F So you can stop output to the terminal - and continue with another F1.   Lothar Geyer   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:02:53 -0500s1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>s& Subject: Re: OpenVMS startup log file?' Message-ID: <3BDA07BD.1D8A3F23@fsi.net>    Lothar Geyer wrote:i >  > DigiDemon schrieb: > >w > > Greetings all! > > K > > I'm a lil bit of a newbie when it comes to OpenVMS.  I have a DEC AlphaOJ > > 4/275.  I'm trying to analye some of the startup messages, but my eyesK > > don't work that fast ;-)  Any chance OPenVMS logs the startup messages?e > > Thanks people :) > >h	 > > James  > H > If you only want to look if there are error messages - use the F1 key.H > So you can stop output to the terminal - and continue with another F1.  H Careful, there! "F1" may mean different things to different terminals or programs...   D ...and the <HOLD SCREEN> key on a VT keyboard is usually labelled asH such, though you do sometimes see <HOLD SCREEN> through <BREAK> labelled as F1 through F5.a  H He's suggesting using the the <HOLD SCREEN> key (labelled <NO SCROLL> on VT1xx keyboards).   H Your PC terminal program may use the ScrollLock key, but CTRL+S (<XOFF>)H and CTRL+Q (<XON>) should work if your terminal device in VMS is set for TTSYNC.u  B In Standard-isue, plain-vanilla Reflection/2 and /4, F1 frequently remains the Windows <HELP> key.o   -- e David J. Dachterar dba DJE Systemsl http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/e   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 15:55:57 -0400 6 From: "Dominic Olivastro" <DOlivastro@ChiResearch.com># Subject: pathworks 7.2 and Win 2000e0 Message-ID: <9rcf2r$2eof$1@allbad.news.cais.net>  J We are just getting around to buying new PC's and we are being forced into* Win 2000 (Still avoiding XP at all costs!)  J We installed PW Client 7.2 but the following problems arise, which I think are inter-related.. 1.  The license server is not found at startup= 2.  The VAX server is not listed in the network neighborhood. , 3.  We can not map a drive to the VAX server  K Oddly enough, PowerTerm works just fine, so apparently the VAX server is onu the network in some sense.   Our configuration: Win 2000
 PW Client 7.2i PW Server 5.0F VAX/VMS 6.1-  	 Any help?a   DomO ԿԬ   Dominic Olivastrom CHI Research, Inco 10 White Horse Pikej Haddon Heights, NJ 08035   Phone:  1-856-546-0600 Fax:       1-856-546-96331% mailto:    DOlivastro@ChiResearch.comc   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 20:35:32 -040015 From: "Brad McCusker" <brad.mccuskerNOSP@Mcompaq.com>h' Subject: Re: pathworks 7.2 and Win 2000 3 Message-ID: <pqnC7.1013$RL6.13126@news.cpqcorp.net>o  A "Dominic Olivastro" <DOlivastro@ChiResearch.com> wrote in messages* news:9rcf2r$2eof$1@allbad.news.cais.net...L > We are just getting around to buying new PC's and we are being forced into, > Win 2000 (Still avoiding XP at all costs!) >mL > We installed PW Client 7.2 but the following problems arise, which I think > are inter-related.0 > 1.  The license server is not found at startup? > 2.  The VAX server is not listed in the network neighborhood.p. > 3.  We can not map a drive to the VAX server > J > Oddly enough, PowerTerm works just fine, so apparently the VAX server is on > the network in some sense. >a > Our configuration:
 > Win 2000 > PW Client 7.2o > PW Server 5.0F  E This is your biggest problem.  Windows2000 clients are not officiallyl supported with PATHWORKS V5.0F. J But don't despair, Comapq will try to help you out.  Contact your customerI support center and ask for the latests Windows2000 patches for V5.0F, andhA also ask them for V5.0F-ECO2 if you don't already have that.  Thed3 Windows2000 patches require ECO2 as a prerequisite.s  
 > VAX/VMS 6.1b  B You probably ought to upgrade this to a supported version as well. -- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++u$ The opinions expressed herein are my% own and do not represent my employer.O  
 Brad McCuskerN# OpenVMS Advanced Server EngineeringA   >T > Any help?S >  > DomS > ԿԬ >O > Dominic OlivastroN > CHI Research, Inc  > 10 White Horse PikeD > Haddon Heights, NJ 08035 >  > Phone:  1-856-546-0600 > Fax:       1-856-546-9633 ' > mailto:    DOlivastro@ChiResearch.comL >  >E   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 04:11:32 GMTK' From: Zelmo Kitowski <Zelmo@^Hkiwi.net>E) Subject: Re: please reply if you see this.> Message-ID: <Xns9146D8059B2F9874JK325999HR657893@24.9.139.141>   You have been seen.  .    = Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> wrote in -3 news:01K9YSP3UF1E90SS1T@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com:.   > Hi folks,i >  > J > When I lost NNTP access, I subscribed to Info-VAX, which resulted in me I > using the address INFO-VAX@LISTSERV.UGA.EDU.  This worked for a while, 1K > but a few weeks ago, most people stopped seeing my posts (evidence: lack n> > of followups---confirmed by test messages and offline email A > correspondence).  This was somewhat confusing since SOME peopleeG > (including myself) DID see my posts.  I have now signed off that listuJ > and joined Info-VAX again, resulting in me using Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com.  > C > If you see this, please reply to me personally (NOT to the whole  E > list/newsgroup) and let me know where you saw this (comp.os.vms or   > Info-VAX). >  > 	 > Thanks,- > 	 > Phillip  >  >    ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2001 23:35:12 +0200  From: Cthulhu <noone@nowhere.it>3 Subject: Re: Quotation for an AlphaServer 300 4/266n) Message-ID: <9rckug$3tl$1@kadath.deep.it>o  2 In comp.sys.dec, Cthulhu <noone@nowhere.it> wrote:  H > How much do you think I can offer for an AlphaServer 300, model 4/266,  B Thanks for replying, now I can make a "honest" and matching offer!   	calculatingly,e 	   Cthulhun   -- o  H        Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu http://www.rlyeh.it/ wgah'nagl fhtgan!$ 		     <cthulhu (at) rlyeh (dot) it>   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2001 12:07:38 -0700) From: google@mccready.com (Gary McCready)f@ Subject: Re: SHOCK, HORROR, VMS & TRU64 STAFF RUSHED TO HOSPITAL= Message-ID: <6e64ea70.0110261107.6bcebfa7@posting.google.com>r  e Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote in message news:<u1nitts50ha6ghincct8l9lm04aj2a4fpd@4ax.com>...    <snip>G > VMS marketing appears to have a budget which allows them to run aboutMF > one advert per year in one country. So far we've had France, Poland,G > UK and now The Netherlands. It is a shock to the system when you come F > across one though. Note the entire VMS marketing budget is less than@ > Michael Capellas take home pay + stock options for last year I
 > believe.   <snip>  B Hmmm...perhaps for the US they are waiting until the ad prices for3 "Survivor" go way down to place an ad on that show!n   --Gary McCreadyo   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:16:52 -0400W- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>b@ Subject: Re: SHOCK, HORROR, VMS & TRU64 STAFF RUSHED TO HOSPITAL, Message-ID: <3BD9C4B0.910762E8@videotron.ca>  M After careful consideration, I have come to the conclusion that Compaq is out- to kill its VMS staff.  K By making that advertising that actually mentioned VMS, Compaq was probablycN hoping to give heart attacks or other severe health problem to their remainingG VMS staff who would then retire or die, relieving Compaq from severancee packages etc etc ....7  N Compaq is fully aware that VMS customers and staff are fully aware that CompaqN is doing everyuthing possible to avoid mentioning VMS in public, so a reversalJ of this policy , no matter how short lived, woudl be quite a big surprise,) leading to the hoped-for health problems.o  L So it can therefore be said that Compaq true intentions with that advert was/ to continue on its path to eventually kill VMS.N  / :-) :-) ;-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)e   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 19:56:05 -0500$1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>I@ Subject: Re: SHOCK, HORROR, VMS & TRU64 STAFF RUSHED TO HOSPITAL' Message-ID: <3BDA0625.7BBD6D91@fsi.net>a   Dirk Munk wrote: > F > A few days ago VMS and Tru64 staff in The Netherlands were rushed to > hospital.eI > Without any prewarning they were subjected to a Compaq radio commercialnI > promoting the use of VMS and Tru64 clusters ! NO, not Windooz clusters,n4 > but REAL clusters ! And VMS was mentioned first !!  ( UH-OH! THIS IS THE BIG ONE, ELIZABETH!!!   I'M COMIN' TO JOIN YA!!!   -- i David J. Dachterah dba DJE Systemsl http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/t   ------------------------------   Date: 26 Oct 2001 23:43:16 GMT- From: Joe Heimann <heimann@nog.ecs.umass.edu>S+ Subject: Source for DE500-BA Ethernet Cardsl+ Message-ID: <9rcsek$pk$1@odo.ecs.umass.edu>r  F On occasion, I have seen posts from persons looking for low cost cardsD for their systems.  Mac and PC Zone have a "limited quantity" of theD Digital DE500-BA PCI 10/100 ethernet cards for $9.99 listed in theirE Clearance section for network hardware.  Hope this is useful info foru someone.    Joe   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:21:16 GMTO* From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>6 Subject: Re: Spiralog (was Re: BCC support in VMSMAIL)A Message-ID: <wQhC7.50360$b47.5454574@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>   3 Bob Ceculski <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in message 7 news:d7791aa1.0110260737.58c40d71@posting.google.com...87 > "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net> wrote in messageh= news:<L98C7.45142$b47.5051766@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>... > > > David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message% > > news:3BD8C9B5.4B559505@fsi.net...U > > > Phillip Helbig wrote:  > > > >-H > > > > > remember "SPIRALOG", the 64 bit file system to replace RMS ... > > J > > Spiralog had nothing to do with record management:  it was designed toL > > replace not even ODS-2, but its underpinnings (i.e., to support an ODS-2E > > interface and many of the ODS-2 internals but make the underlyingf storage, > > log-structured). > >k > >s
 > > - bill >1H > sipralog was to allow backups on open for update rms files ... that is	 somethingo > you can not currently do ...  L No - while backup consistency was indeed one of the motivating forces behindK Spiralog, it was nothing like that specific (and, as I said, had nothing tos< do with record management).  A log-structured volume makes aF *volume*-consistent backup possible without separate (add-on) snapshotL mechanisms; without it, inter-file (and volume meta-data) consistency issuesD still exist even if you address consistency within individual files.   - bill   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 18:27:04 GMTS* From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>6 Subject: Re: Spiralog (was Re: BCC support in VMSMAIL)? Message-ID: <YVhC7.601804$Lw3.37190959@news2.aus1.giganews.com>P  < Keith Parris <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message7 news:cf15391e.0110260710.3827b438@posting.google.com...5   ...c  H > Spiralog did not do this; I sat in a meeting where it was decided thatF > to preserve Polycenter File Optimizer revenues, disk defragmentationA > would not be included in the segment cleaner, where it arguablye( > belonged, but in that layered product.  J Too bad you didn't have an Uzi with you at the time:  such decision-makers2 shouldn't be allowed to remain in their positions.   ...1  F > But I can envision a cluster where each node contains some amount ofF > battery-backed NVRAM, and Memory Channel or similar hardware is usedE > to keep caches coherent and up-to-date at high speed between nodes,x8 > providing mirrored-cache capability between VMS nodes.  C So can I, and tried to pitch it a couple of years ago when an ODS-2 K replacement was apparently being considered.  But there was no funding thenhI for anything like that aggressive a level of development, and it's really0? hard to imagine that the situation today is anything but worse.i   - bill   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2001 13:00:15 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) Subject: Re: SSH for Alpha VMS= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0110261200.772d3e91@posting.google.com>i  r "Amy Lewis" <amylewis@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<iNYB7.3138$Ou1.1034800247@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>...- > "L Arut" <larut@yahoo.com> wrote in messaget9 > news:73f00c8f.0105282321.13854644@posting.google.com....= > > Is there anyway of getting sn SSH server pre-compiled for M > > an Alpha VMS system since I don't have access to DEC C having surrenderedv& > > our VAX C license many years ago ? >  > Run Multinet 4.3 >  >  > Amy Lewis   G run tcpware ... it performs alot better than either multinet or ucx ...dE it currently has ssh v1 but by year end will have ssh v2 ... you want D a vms kernel based product for vms if possible, not a unix based ...   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 16:43:35 -0400x  From: jamese@beast.dtsw.army.mil Subject: Re: SSH for Alpha VMS0 Message-ID: <01102616433509@beast.dtsw.army.mil>  I bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) wrote on 26 Oct 2001 13:00:15 -0700 in02 <d7791aa1.0110261200.772d3e91@posting.google.com>:  6 > "Amy Lewis" <amylewis@pacbell.net> wrote in message @ > news:<iNYB7.3138$Ou1.1034800247@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>.../ > > "L Arut" <larut@yahoo.com> wrote in messageo; > > news:73f00c8f.0105282321.13854644@posting.google.com...l? > > > Is there anyway of getting sn SSH server pre-compiled forrC > > > an Alpha VMS system since I don't have access to DEC C having[4 > > > surrendered our VAX C license many years ago ? > >  > > Run Multinet 4.3   I agree whole heartedly.  
 > > Amy LewisW > I > run tcpware ... it performs alot better than either multinet or ucx ...   + Do you have any statistics to back this up?   > > it currently has ssh v1 but by year end will have ssh v2 ...   Ditto for Multinet.   G >                                                              you wantlF > a vms kernel based product for vms if possible, not a unix based ...  F Multinet may have been based on Unix protocols and/or code, but it has# been a VMS product since the start.m  J Not to start a tcp "religious war", but I have been using it since the TGVH days and think it is an excellent product. Pick a product that satisfiesD your needs and fits your pocket book. Both Multinet and TCPware have excellent support.  : Ed James                           ed.james@telecomsys.com5 TeleCommunications Systems, Inc.   voice 410-295-1919T; 2024 West Street, Suite 300              800-810-0827 x1919a5 Annapolis, MD 21401-3556           fax   410-280-1094y   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Oct 2001 11:23:47 -0700% From: s.joseph@lph.org (Shawn Joseph)tA Subject: Synching VMS time with NT and/or an internet time server = Message-ID: <c7ea9784.0110261023.60954394@posting.google.com>   ? How are other agencies keeping their VMS and Citrix servers (or B desktop PCs) time in synch with each other and/or an Internet timeE server? FYI, we are a Cerner Millennium site running on VMS 7.2-1 andoD Digital TCP/IP 5.0A ECO3 and using NT Server 4 with Citrix Metaframe for our front end.  B I was told about the XNTP protocol for the VMS servers but haven'tE figured out how to configure it. Can a VMS server be synched with NTP $ or XNTP alone without a GPS or DTSS?  C I have enabled NTP, but haven't found any way to actually set it uph+ and point it to a server for a time source.T   Thank you, i Shawn Joseph MCSE,CCA  Information Services,t Systems Administrator    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 21:11:03 GMT37 From: trevor.osatchuk@nospam.pscl.com (Trevor Osatchuk)lE Subject: Re: Synching VMS time with NT and/or an internet time server.4 Message-ID: <3bd9cb9e.79050768@news.telusplanet.net>  E On 26 Oct 2001 11:23:47 -0700, s.joseph@lph.org (Shawn Joseph) wrote:O  E You can set up one or more of your servers to be 'reference clock' tosF which all other computer could be synched to.  I am not sure how to doF this in VMS, but it is pretty trivial in Tru64, man.  You don't need aE GPS.  DTSS is a different protocol presented by DEC.  If you have oneoD computer with internet access you can get your time from one of manyD time servers and then have that computer act as a server to the rest- or your network.  From the ntp.conf man page:   F "For configuration purposes, xntpd treats reference clocks like normal> NTP  peers. However, unlike normal peers, reference clocks are% referred to by an invalid IP address.   D Reference clock addresses are of the form 127.127.t.u, where t is anF integer denoting the clock type and u indicates the type-specific unitE number, in the range 0-3, that is used to identify multiple instanceslD of clocks of the same type.  Most of these clocks require support inC the form of a serial port or special bus peripheral. The particular C device is normally specified by adding a soft link /dev/device%d tooC the particular hardware device involved.  The device is compiled inn" xntpd according to the clock type.  E The following table lists the supported reference clock types, deviceh% names, clock names, and descriptions: B   ________________________________________________________________)   Type   Device   Name        DescriptionCB   ________________________________________________________________7   1      (none)   LOCAL       Undisciplined Local Clocks=   3      pst      WWV_PST     PSTI/Traconex WWV/WWVH Receiver 6   4      wwvb     WWVB_SPEC   Spectracom WWVB ReceiverC   18     acts     NIST_ACTS   NIST Automated Computer Time Service"t  B So from this you can see type 1 would be what you would use if youC didn't have a reference clock to connect to, whether it be a GPS or-E internet time source.  As for pointing to a server, from my ntp.conf:m   server aztec  version 3@  D The server aztec is a WinNT box with the free ntp client/server thatD runs as a service called Tardis V 1.3.(This was for testing purposesD only)  So I would imagine that the xntp package you installed on VMSF should have documentation on the config file you have to configure, or$ maybe an installation script to run.  7 I found this page usefull for configuring ntp on Tru64:   3 http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~ntp/ntpfaq/NTP-s-def.htm   @ >How are other agencies keeping their VMS and Citrix servers (orC >desktop PCs) time in synch with each other and/or an Internet time F >server? FYI, we are a Cerner Millennium site running on VMS 7.2-1 andE >Digital TCP/IP 5.0A ECO3 and using NT Server 4 with Citrix Metaframe  >for our front end.0 >iC >I was told about the XNTP protocol for the VMS servers but haven'taF >figured out how to configure it. Can a VMS server be synched with NTP% >or XNTP alone without a GPS or DTSS?, > D >I have enabled NTP, but haven't found any way to actually set it up, >and point it to a server for a time source. >0 >Thank you,  >Shawn Joseph MCSE,CCA e >Information Services, >Systems Administrator   Trevor Osatchuk>  ? Any man whose errors take ten years to correct is quite a man. e?           - J. Robert Oppenheimer, speaking of Albert Einstein e   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 11:49:10 +1000 = From: "Mark\(unMASK\)Forsyth" <forsytMhm@optAushoSme.com.aKu>rE Subject: Re: Synching VMS time with NT and/or an internet time server." Message-ID: <sq3dr9.fen.ln@really>  2 "Shawn Joseph" <s.joseph@lph.org> wrote in message7 news:c7ea9784.0110261023.60954394@posting.google.com...uA > How are other agencies keeping their VMS and Citrix servers (or D > desktop PCs) time in synch with each other and/or an Internet timeG > server? FYI, we are a Cerner Millennium site running on VMS 7.2-1 andoF > Digital TCP/IP 5.0A ECO3 and using NT Server 4 with Citrix Metaframe > for our front end. > D > I was told about the XNTP protocol for the VMS servers but haven'tG > figured out how to configure it. Can a VMS server be synched with NTPl& > or XNTP alone without a GPS or DTSS? > E > I have enabled NTP, but haven't found any way to actually set it upt- > and point it to a server for a time source..   Have a read ofL http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/tcpip50a/6526/6526profile_015.html#index_ x_444m  % And the find a server that suits fromd2 http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/clock1.htm or/ http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/clock1.htme  ! My config file is very simple....      #Three stratum 2 servers.  server   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx server   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx server   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx #h  ' This yields VERY accurate time keeping.-   Ooroo-	 Mark F...    >2 > Thank you, > Shawn Joseph MCSE,CCAi > Information Services,E > Systems Administratorl   ------------------------------   Date: 26 Oct 2001 21:53:28 GMT* From: bleau@umtof.umd.edu (Lawrence Bleau)D Subject: Re: TELNET sessions not closed, limit exceeded, how to fix?) Message-ID: <9rcm0o$74r$1@hecate.umd.edu>c  q In article <20011023115813.74233.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com>, Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> writes: 	 >LawrenceO >X4 >The CSC/Brazil gave me just the two files by email.# >It wasnt a polycenter based patch.s  N I just received the two drivers from Compaq/CSC today.  They also told me thatO these two drivers would be in TCPIP V5.0A ECO 4 for VMS V7.1-2, currently beinge/ prepared.  The names of the two files I got aren   TCPIP$BGDRIVER.EXE_1745_A_V50A TCPIP$INETACP.EXE_1745_A_V50Ai  9 in case anyone wants to ask for them by name from Compaq.e   Lawrence Bleau University of Maryland" Physics Dept., Space Physics Group 301-405-6223 bleau@umtof.umd.edu    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 14:57:39 -0400-) From: Andrew Robert <arobert@townisp.com>3E Subject: Tuning Oracle RDB 7.0 Server and SQL on Alpha OpenVMS v7.2-1f* Message-ID: <3BD9B223.5090301@townisp.com>   Hi everyone,    G Looking through the RDB/SQL installation manual, I see statements that u! you can load the images resident.A  = I uncommented the line in sql$startup.com referencing "gosub kG install_images" and added the /resident qualifier to the image install o and install replace lines.  ; This does not appear to work for two reasons. I dumped the hD installed/resident image list and none of the sql images were found.  H Additionally, the images spit out a message stating that they needed to # be compiled with a specific switch.   % Has anyone had any success with this?.  D I am looking to do similar things with the RDB startup but have not  tackled that yet.e   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2001 01:18:20 GMTa+ From: Joe The Aroma <schizam2001@yahoo.com>  Subject: VMS/VAX newbie.) Message-ID: <3BDA09E7.B2FF1D50@yahoo.com>e  F I'm looking for a good site which will explain, in simplest terms, howA to use VMS. I am pretty good with a CLI BTW. Anyone have any goode recommendations?   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 21:48:50 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) Subject: Re: VMS/VAX newbie.L Message-ID: <rdeininger-2610012148510001@user-2iveab0.dialup.mindspring.com>  7 In article <3BDA09E7.B2FF1D50@yahoo.com>, Joe The Aroma0 <schizam2001@yahoo.com> wrote:  H > I'm looking for a good site which will explain, in simplest terms, howC > to use VMS. I am pretty good with a CLI BTW. Anyone have any good> > recommendations?  ' The official Compaq web site for VMS ist      www.openvms.compaq.comt  J You will find links to the OpenVMS FAQ, the OpenVMS "ask the wizard" area,4 and a large subset of the OpenVMS documentation set.   Skim through the FAQ first.r  E Of the regular VMS manuals, you probably would want to start with thee9 "OpenVMS User's Guide".  It is intended for newish users.h  I Also, do not forget about the HELP command on a VMS system.  It will givepG you short descriptions of the commands along with example of use.  Most,7 folks find HELP quite a bit nicer than unixy man pages.,  I The FAQ tells you how to find a publicly-accessible VAX running VMS whereh) you can get an account and fiddle around.w  G VMS questions that aren't addressed in the FAQ or in Ask the Wizard are  welcome here in comp.os.vms.   -- - Robert Deininger rdeininger@mindspring.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 19:54:28 -0500u1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>T> Subject: Re: Where to find the DCL command procedure document?' Message-ID: <3BDA05C4.845B3CC2@fsi.net>u   Cheng-Liang Shen wrote:  > I > Can anyone tell me where I can find the DCL command procedure tutorial? 6 > It had better have many examples to imitate. Thanks.   MY! ...aren't we demanding!o  ( The OpenVMS documentation is on-line at:" http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/  / You will find numerous examples in these paths:N  . SYS$MANAGER	Don't change anything in this path. SYS$STARTUP	Don't change anything in this path  % SYS$EXAMPLES	Like it says - examples..  F There are many other examples of userland code on the OpenVMS Freeware= CDs. See http://www.openvms.compaq.com/ for more information.c   -- c David J. Dachterar dba DJE Systemsg http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.597 ************************