1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 30 Oct 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 604       Contents:. ??== f$mode() = NETWORK always FTP connection.2 Re: ??== f$mode() = NETWORK always FTP connection., Re: Another missed opportunity for Alpha/VMS, Re: Another missed opportunity for Alpha/VMS, Re: CLD & error handling from within program Re: Compaq blasts HP# Re: Equivalent of /etc/hosts in vms   Equivalent of /etc/hosts in vms.$ Re: Equivalent of /etc/hosts in vms.$ Re: Equivalent of /etc/hosts in vms.+ First experience with the WEB based service D Future of DECUS:  HPUS ???? ((Re: What's happen with DECUS Germany?)H Re: Future of DECUS:  HPUS ???? ((Re: What's happen with DECUS Germany?)) Re: Global Sections for IPC - performance ) Re: Global Sections for IPC - performance ) Re: Global Sections for IPC - performance % Re: half off fire sale on windows xp! % Re: half off fire sale on windows xp! % Re: half off fire sale on windows xp!  Re: Increase index file on disk  Re: Increase index file on disk  Re: Increase index file on disk  NT/W2K CRSS exploit  One year warranty for ES45?!  Re: One year warranty for ES45?!  Re: One year warranty for ES45?!  Re: One year warranty for ES45?!  Re: One year warranty for ES45?!  Re: One year warranty for ES45?!  Re: One year warranty for ES45?! OT - HP's MPE-IX+ OT: Bytes profiles Virtual Memory for Linux / Re: OT: Bytes profiles Virtual Memory for Linux / Re: OT: Bytes profiles Virtual Memory for Linux / Re: OT: Bytes profiles Virtual Memory for Linux 5 Request for help with ANALYZE/ERROR disk error report  savesets,  CDs and attributes ! Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes ! Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes ! Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes ! Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes ! Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes ! Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes ! Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes ! Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes ! RE: savesets,  CDs and attributes ! Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes ! Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes ! Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes ! Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes  Re: SSH for Alpha VMS % Re: trying to setup a TF86 tape drive % Re: trying to setup a TF86 tape drive  Unix-based, VMS-based? Re: Unix-based, VMS-based?! What's happen with DECUS Germany? ? Re: windows xp already hacked ... while vms "unhackable" (Not!) 9 Re: windows xp already hacked ... while vms "unhackable"! 9 Re: windows xp already hacked ... while vms "unhackable"! & Re: X.25 profile documentation wanted.& Re: X.25 profile documentation wanted.& Re: X.25 profile documentation wanted.) [VMS V7.3 VAX] my first crash since years   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:14:33 +0100 , From: aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de (Hans M. Aus)7 Subject: ??== f$mode() = NETWORK always FTP connection. D Message-ID: <aus-3010011114330001@wvia67.virologie.uni-wuerzburg.de>  7 Is f$mode() = NETWORK always a FTP connection at LOGIN?   ? Or, can there be other types of f$mode() = NETWORK connections?   E My objective is to catch FTP login connections and avoid starting the - terminal routines for the INTERACTIVE logins.    --  B Cheers, Hans M. Aus, Wuerzburg, Germany,  aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:03:02 +0200 2 From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman@digital.com>; Subject: Re: ??== f$mode() = NETWORK always FTP connection. + Message-ID: <3BDEB316.5E362886@digital.com>   1 Anything run remotely should show up as "NETWORK"  for example:   $ ty QUERY.COM; 
 $ set noon $ inq n "Your name: " < $ open/read/write remote NODE"<usenam> <pasword>"::"0=reply" $ write remote n $loop: $ read/error=ugh remote lin 
 $ sho sym lin  $ goto loop  $ugh:  $ close remote   $ty  REPLY.COM
 $ set noon $ open/read/write  link SYS$NET 
 $ read link x  $ write link "Hello ",x " $ write link "f$mode is ",f$mode() $oops: $ logout $ exit     $@query  Your name: : mike    LIN = "Hello MIKE"   LIN = "f$mode is NETWORK"        Mike   Hans M. Aus wrote: > 9 > Is f$mode() = NETWORK always a FTP connection at LOGIN?  > A > Or, can there be other types of f$mode() = NETWORK connections?  > G > My objective is to catch FTP login connections and avoid starting the / > terminal routines for the INTERACTIVE logins.  >  > --D > Cheers, Hans M. Aus, Wuerzburg, Germany,  aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de   --  E --------------------------------------------------------------------- E Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. ? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* F Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------  -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----  Version: 3.1: GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$6 PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Oct 2001 12:32:44 +0100G From: Jan Vorbrueggen <jan@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de> 5 Subject: Re: Another missed opportunity for Alpha/VMS H Message-ID: <y4itcxtlb7.fsf@mailhost.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de>  5 vance@alumni.caltech.edu (Vance R. Haemmerle) writes:   - > >You would also need VxWorks for the Alpha. K > >As the same chip was used on Mars Pathfinder in 1997, this must be "old"  > >technology.  K >   "Better, Faster, Cheaper" usually requires lots of reuse of design work  > and flight spares.  M Agreed - especially if the needs are well served by re-use. An RS6000 is much N more horsepower than an 1802 or similar, which has been the standard processor on many probes.    	Jan   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:44:40 GMT 4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>5 Subject: Re: Another missed opportunity for Alpha/VMS > Message-ID: <YgxD7.161556$vq.39721094@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  @ "Vance R. Haemmerle" <vance@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in message& news:9rlg6u$j37@gap.cco.caltech.edu...? > In article <xqqD7.25128$f6.12215558@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>, 5 > Terry C. Shannon <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote:  > > H > >Apropos to OpenVMS, DEC for a time toyed with the idea of porting the MicaI > >VMS implementation to the Mips architecture. For reasons best known to  DEC,G > >the Merlin, Kestrel, and Raven platforms never saw the light of day.  > I >    What a strange coincidence!  While working for the Cassini ISS team,  two K > of the machines I managed were a DEC 3000/400 running OpenVMS named RAVEN G > and a Digital Personal Workstation 433au running Tru64 named Kestrel.  >   - Yep. The code names did resurface in VMSland.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:48:05 -0000 / From: Michael Zarlenga <zarlenga@conan.ids.net> 5 Subject: Re: CLD & error handling from within program / Message-ID: <tttitlcuo8q268@corp.supernews.com>   0 David J. Dachtera <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote:B :> I must be getting forgetful, because as I remember CLD/CLI, badD :> keywords were trapped by the CLI and the program never sees them.  G : I suppose that should be true; however, there needs to be some signal G : passed back so the program knows it should not attempt to process any J : further and should take appropriate action: either exit or prompt again.  ? In C, as I recall, the image is not even activated when the CLI A determines there is a problem with the command, such as an unrec- ! ognized qualifier or bad keyword.   / Oh well, no matter.  The poster has a solution.    --   -- Mike Zarlenga   ------------------------------  ! Date: Tue, 30 Oct 01 10:29:02 GMT  From: jmfbahciv@aol.com  Subject: Re: Compaq blasts HP + Message-ID: <9rm67q$olm$2@bob.news.rcn.net>   > In article <SjkD7.160711$vq.39388523@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>,8    "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote: > 5 >"bad bob" <sfmc68@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message + >news:3BDDD074.C3DCDCF4@bellatlantic.net...  >> "Terry C. Shannon" wrote: >> > >  >> > >- >> > > Does anyone know any more about this ?  >> > > >> >I >> > Never saw the code, nor can I remember if the source OS was OS400 or  >MVS, K >> > but the tale is familiar indeed. Given that DEC started fooling around  >with H >> > binary code translation and emulation technology back in 1983 or soF >> > (Macro-32 to native SAFE* instruction translator) it's not at all >> > surprising. >> >B >> > *SAFE = Simplified Architecture for Fast Execution, an early 
 post-TITAN >RISC ) >> > project cloaked in a non-RISCy name. I >> And there was the bootleg 360/370 emulation on the KL, circa 79 or so.  > I >Good catch, I must have forgotten this early effort. Anyhoo, I can full   wellJ >understand why IBM might have been a tad miffed if DEC managed to create  anC >MVS environment on VAX, especially during the heyday of VAX/VMS...   = Why?  Every sale running IBM _soft_ware is income to IBM.  It < also would get IBM's foot in the door of the DEC-traditional@ shops.  Why run an emulator when you can have the real hardware?< At that time we were killing IBM sales because we (TOPS-10) 9 could talk to their gear and they couldn't (or wouldn't)  8 talk to ours.  By the early to mid 80s, IBM was learning= about customers who really wanted heterogenous(sp?) platforms  to yak at each other.    /BAH    ' Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Oct 2001 06:54:01 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) , Subject: Re: Equivalent of /etc/hosts in vms3 Message-ID: <1H5yjc6MhQ+9@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Y In article <3BDE92C2.6060404@imahal.com>, Vasu Kulkarni <vasukulkarni@imahal.com> writes:  > Hi,  > H >       i want to know the equivalent of /etc/hosts file  in vms7.3. or . > help me where to post such simple questions.  @ There is none in VMS.  That file is used for IP.  It would be in= any TCP/IP package that is installed on your machine.  If you < indicate what TCP/IP package you are using, someone would be
 able to help.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:15:06 +0530 - From: Vasu Kulkarni <vasukulkarni@imahal.com> ) Subject: Equivalent of /etc/hosts in vms. ) Message-ID: <3BDE92C2.6060404@imahal.com>    Hi,   F       i want to know the equivalent of /etc/hosts file  in vms7.3. or , help me where to post such simple questions.   Thanx and Regards  --vasu.    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 04:06:19 -0800 (PST) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>- Subject: Re: Equivalent of /etc/hosts in vms. @ Message-ID: <20011030120619.19668.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com>   There is a file   ! in UCX :  SYS$SYSTEM:UCX$HOST.DAT   - IN TCPIP Services:  SYS$SYSTEM:TCPIP$HOST.DAT   , But you must use  UCX or TCPIP to configure. Let see in TCPIP:   * $ TCPIP SET HOST ABC/ADD=3D123.123.123.123   $ TCPIP SET NOHOST ABC   Regards    FC=20 2 --- Vasu Kulkarni <vasukulkarni@imahal.com> wrote: > Hi,  >=203 >       i want to know the equivalent of /etc/hosts  > file  in vms7.3. or=20. > help me where to post such simple questions. >=20 > Thanx and Regards 	 > --vasu.  >=20     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D L =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D  F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D   2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?, Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Oct 2001 13:52:00 +0100* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)- Subject: Re: Equivalent of /etc/hosts in vms. * Message-ID: <3bdea270$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  Y In article <3BDE92C2.6060404@imahal.com>, Vasu Kulkarni <vasukulkarni@imahal.com> writes: C >      i want to know the equivalent of /etc/hosts file  in vms7.3.    Depends on the IP stack in use   CMU/IP (CMU/TEK)	? Multinet:		? Pathway (WINTCP)	?( TCPIP:			TCPIP$HOST (SYS$SYSTEM:.DAT)	1) TCPware:		TCPWARE:HOSTS.$ UCX:			UCX$HOST (SYS$SYSTEM:.DAT)	2)  1 1) binary file - use TCPIP SET HOST to manipulate / 2) binary file - use UCX SET HOST to manipulate 0 >or help me where to post such simple questions.  K There is also VMSNET.NETWORKS.TCP-IP.* (where * is the IP stack and "misc")    --  < Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888 < <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:37:44 +0100 (MET) & From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>4 Subject: First experience with the WEB based service6 Message-ID: <200110300737.IAA20465@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,  B I have made a service call via the new one EMAE WEB based service.D My opionen is, that this is very bad implemented. First time I tried? to login via Netscape browser with no success. Every time I got @ access denied. As I find out, you must use IE of M$ to login. So@ I have to leave my internet Sun and to go to a Wintel box. After? loggin I made my call and then I would loggout. But there is no > button to do so. In case of this, you are logged in as long as? the IE is running. That is not secure. The second problem, what @ I did found is, that I am not able to add a note or to close the? call. Both action do end with an error message. What's your ex- - perience with the CCC.EMEA WEB based service?    TIA and regards Rudolf Wingert   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 02:00:05 -0800 (PST) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>M Subject: Future of DECUS:  HPUS ???? ((Re: What's happen with DECUS Germany?) @ Message-ID: <20011030100005.40429.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com>  * Does exist a HP user group like DECUS ?=20  - What is the future of DECUS / Encompass after  the merger????   Regards    FC=20 + --- Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de> wrote:  > Hello, >=206 > does anybody know, what's happen with DECUS Germany. > If you can login, 3 > you will find seldom notes entries. Most time you  > will see zero entries.3 > Today I was logged in. During writing a note, the  > session closed by 6 > connection lost. Testing the WEB I did get the eror: > Failed to connect. >=20 > Best regards Rudolf Wingert  >=20     =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D L =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D  F=E1bio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.brL =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D   2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?, Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:49:10 GMT 4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>Q Subject: Re: Future of DECUS:  HPUS ???? ((Re: What's happen with DECUS Germany?) > Message-ID: <alxD7.161562$vq.39723042@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  ; "Fabio Cardoso" <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message : news:20011030100005.40429.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com...' Does exist a HP user group like DECUS ?   - What is the future of DECUS / Encompass after  the merger????  F HP does in fact have a user group called INTEREX. Thus far there is no impact on DECUS/Encompass/ITUG.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 00:27:01 -0800 & From: "Rick Cadruvi" <rick@rdperf.com>2 Subject: Re: Global Sections for IPC - performance/ Message-ID: <ttspqlc86rth18@corp.supernews.com>   I I've done the Global section approach and if done correctly, it is by far  the fastest method. D Here's one of the tricks for flipping quickly back and forth between processes during your  "SPIN" operations.  $ static void giveup_scheduler_krnl ()    {    softint (IPL$_SCHED); \    }  	   main ()     { ... )    sys$cmkrnl (giveup_scheduler_krnl, 0);     }  D A similar technique on Windows using "Sleep (0);" works REALLY well.   Rick Cadruvi...   ? "Hoff Hoffman" <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote in messageT- news:mvjD7.1080$RL6.15040@news.cpqcorp.net...CK > In article <3bdd281f.5550050@news.force9.net>, mark@*NO*SPAM*.co.uk (Mark  Williams) writes:c >e! >   OpenVMS platform and version?i >fE > :We use global sections for IPC between separate processes and haver? > :noticed that it is now slower than the old mailbox solution.a >tI >   I'd look at ICC or similar, and -- having used both approaches -- I'd I >   get out of the business and the effort of writing and supporting yourw >   own communications.  >uH > :Can anyone suggest any ideas for checking/optimizing the performance? >eH >   Walk the whole code path with the debugger, and see what the code is >   really doing.  >f< > :Also is there a big overhead in mapping a global section? >SK >   There is certainly some overhead, but I do not know if will prove to bea$ >   significant in your environment. >fI >   Once mapped, global sections are the fastest communications mechanismaG >   available.  Notifications and such can suffer, as there is no "doorlH >   bell" or associated mechanism -- you have to spin (which has its ownF >   problems) or you have to use doorbell locks, event flags, or other3 >   interprocess-capable notification mechanism(s).S >!K > :At the moment some mappings are done when needed.  Could it be better tou# > :do all the mappings on start-up?r >lI >   Caching work ahead of when it is needed is usually better, though youuJ >   could run into virtual addressing limits or paging -- depending on how >   much data you load.r >rH >   Profile your code using PCA (part of DECset), PC sampling, insertionE >   of timing calls within the code, or other similar technique.  AndeG >   really look and see what your code is doing -- I've learned much by H >   the simple expedient of integrating logging and debugging mechanismsI >   into any complex applications.  With a communications mechanism, thiseF >   is vital -- having written these, the author of the communicationsJ >   mechanism will often get blamed for most every application bug lurkingI >   in the system.  Occasionally, even correctly blamed.  The logging and6E >   the integrated debugging was central at resolving these problems.s >p > ( >  ---------------------------- #include' <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------!L >       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com, >  --------------------------- pure personal# opinion ---------------------------.1 >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineeringp hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com >V   ------------------------------   Date: 30 Oct 01 07:34:27 PST From: mckinneyj@cpva.saic.com-2 Subject: Re: Global Sections for IPC - performance( Message-ID: <JWZIvCvbqmha@cpva.saic.com>  = In article <cf15391e.0110290750.14b81a78@posting.google.com>,n4  keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) writes:- > mark@*NO*SPAM*.co.uk (Mark Williams) wrote:a3 >> We use the lock manager for coordinating access.h > > > Do you often see the communicating processes in RWSCS state? > C > If you check SHOW CLUSTER/CONTINUOUS with ADD CONNECTIONS and ADD D > CR_WAITS, do you see a lot of credit waits on VMS$VAXcluster SYSAP= > connections?  (If so, consider raising the SYSGEN parameter- > SCS_CREDITS.) 
   ^^^^^^^^^^^0   CLUSTER_CREDITS ??  G >> (The global sections are not mapped to files - we use SEC$M_PAGFIL).K > D > That just means they're mapped to a pagefile instead of some otherD > file.  Is there plenty of free memory?  Do you see a lot of paging > activity?  > & > Or did you mean to say SEC$M_PFNMAP?E > -------------------------------------------------------------------nE > Keith Parris | parris at encompasserve dot org | VMS consulting on:uE > Clusters, Disaster Tolerance, Internals, Performance, Storage & I/Ol   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Oct 2001 08:24:58 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) 2 Subject: Re: Global Sections for IPC - performance= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0110300824.2adb112f@posting.google.com>   D keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris), obviously asleep at the
 wheel, wrote:o= > (If so, consider raising the SYSGEN parameter SCS_CREDITS.)i  C when I should have said CLUSTER_CREDITS.  Thanks to J. McKinney forl pointing out my error.C ------------------------------------------------------------------- C Keith Parris | parris at encompasserve dot org | VMS consulting on:-C Clusters, Disaster Tolerance, Internals, Performance, Storage & I/Oe   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:03:42 +0010 % From: paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.aur. Subject: Re: half off fire sale on windows xp!5 Message-ID: <01KA4FHRPC1E006WAT@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>r   Terry Shannon wrote:  I >Stranger things have happened. A small consulting firm which will remainBH >nameless actually bragged about the fact that they had Internet-enabled, >peecees in the bathrooms of their office...   ROTFL, and the mind boggles.   Regards, Paddy   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:41:02 +0000 ( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>. Subject: Re: half off fire sale on windows xp!( Message-ID: <3BDE75AE.F20CBBF@127.0.0.1>   Bob Ceculski wrote:D > ) > http://www.theinquirer.net/29100107.htm- > E > WE REPORTED SOME TIME ago that final betas of Microsoft XP software F > were cracked, de-activated and the packaging already copied and evenC > as the firm spent millions on its launch last week, the wheels of ' > software piracy were turning in Asia.eG > But it seems that the problem is far worse than we thought, accordingp$ > to an informant in mainland China.  H Not that I should admit to knowing anyone that may or may not have triedG a 'pre release' copy  of XP, but I'll with-hold their original comments-H in mixed company, but suffice to say  that ex-user does not waste a boot partition on it.   My, how we laughed.u -- :( Regards, Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciences nclews at csc dot com7   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:06:56 +0000@% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>e. Subject: Re: half off fire sale on windows xp!8 Message-ID: <29rstt0cpcevvkbghlcc7ocdck56ib7ct5@4ax.com>  4 On Mon, 29 Oct 2001 21:43:49 GMT, "Terry C. Shannon"" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote:   > 6 >"Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in message8 >news:d7791aa1.0110291328.6a091032@posting.google.com...G >> there have been drastic price reductions on windows xp now in china! G >> windows xp now available for $.75 ... full office suite versions fors >> only $2.00! act now!f >eK >Umm, you get what you pay for. That's why nine out of ten doctors surveyed M >agree that OpenVMS is the coolest and most unhackable general-purpose OS youe  >can buy without a prescription.  D That;s it Terry. You;ve found the magic word. Capellas says he tells< his underlings to "build cool stuff". VMS declared "cool and unhackable" at DEFCON.  / Hey Mikey - VMS is cool stuff. Make more of it.o    K >Best of all, thanks to the good folks at the Dallas Fort Worth Compaq User>K >Group, the OpenVMS Hobbyist License is available FREE to all who choose to M >run a real OS on a real hardware platform in the privacy of their own homes.o > , >http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/index.html >  >a >d >c   -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:53:09 +0000 ( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>( Subject: Re: Increase index file on disk) Message-ID: <3BDE7885.B6A1C90A@127.0.0.1>s   Larry Kilgallen wrote: > Y > In article <ttrfsqrgigcr88@corp.supernews.com>, "Tom Steuver" <steuver@nku.edu> writes:p > > OpenVMS 7.2-1 on Alpha > >-* > > Users are getting the following error: > > F > > %EDT-F-OPENOUT, error opening DRA4:[HILLJE]PROGRAM3.JOU; as output& > > -RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create failed- > > -SYSTEM-W-IDXFILEFULL, index file is fullD > >7& > > How can I increase the index file? > 3 > Do an image backup and image restore of the disk.:  A Alternatively as a short term fix, delete some files to allow theBE headers to be re-used, or relocate some directories temporarily. This>H should keep you going without need for a shutdown or drive dismount, but@ heed Larry's advice, you need to do it sooner rather than later.   -- o( Regards, Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciences nclews at csc dot coms   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:49:00 +0100t2 From: "Ren Schelbaum" <rene.schelbaum@datakom.at>( Subject: Re: Increase index file on diskG Message-ID: <3bdebc43$0$60726$6e365a64@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at>F  6 "Tom Steuver" <steuver@nku.edu> schrieb im Newsbeitrag) news:ttrfsqrgigcr88@corp.supernews.com...e > OpenVMS 7.2-1 on Alpha >a( > Users are getting the following error: >aD > %EDT-F-OPENOUT, error opening DRA4:[HILLJE]PROGRAM3.JOU; as output$ > -RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create failed+ > -SYSTEM-W-IDXFILEFULL, index file is full  >S$ > How can I increase the index file? >e	 > Thanks,V
 > Tom Steuverh >  >r   Hi!r  K Some defragmenting tool should work. If you don't have such, backup/restored> with /noinit to a disk initialized with a reasonable value forI /maximum_files= should also do the trick. If you have a recent version ofeD VMS, check out if a different cluster size on init would improve the
 situation.   Ren   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 19:08:07 +0100e= From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <noone@dummy.com> ( Subject: Re: Increase index file on disk) Message-ID: <3BDEEC87.5BA3F0E2@dummy.com>e   Hi.t3 The *very* first thing I'd do, is to check if everyr1 file on that disk realy is "needed" (according tot7 your own definition...). Often you'll find users with ao9 lot of versions, or a lot of .TMP files, or a lot of .LOGa files, or...  ? Deleteting unused/unneeded files is an online operation, b.t.w.u  > If that don't help, rebuild the disk with a larger index file.   Jan-Erik Sderholm..    8 > "Tom Steuver" <steuver@nku.edu> schrieb im Newsbeitrag+ > news:ttrfsqrgigcr88@corp.supernews.com...o > > OpenVMS 7.2-1 on Alpha > >e* > > Users are getting the following error: > > F > > %EDT-F-OPENOUT, error opening DRA4:[HILLJE]PROGRAM3.JOU; as output& > > -RMS-E-CRE, ACP file create failed- > > -SYSTEM-W-IDXFILEFULL, index file is fulll > >f& > > How can I increase the index file? > >0 > > Thanks,c > > Tom Steuver    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:12:01 GMTp From: LBohan@dbc.spam_less..coms Subject: NT/W2K CRSS exploit8 Message-ID: <4hnttt8o1773ajmv2ph4sj1e0jucgduf1i@4ax.com>  9 well, don't try this on that mission critical server box,eA and esp. not if you're on a Navy ship and that system is running   your propulsion sub-systems ....     Pull up a plain DOS box,  D (one without scrollbars/quickedit/etc enabled, ie from a Run... CMD)  : type a text-file that contains back-space chars (hex 0x08)8 interspersed w/ other chars (typically tabs, f'instance)  . Presto, Presto. Instant Blue Screen of Death.   2 I wonder how long before some script-kiddie works 8 out an Internet Explorer/Outlook exploit that exercises  this one ...   sheesh./  J http://homepages.tesco.net./~J.deBoynePollard/FGA/csrss-backspace-bug.html     VDA8:[TMP]BACK_SPACES.TXT;1 C 0000 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08   ............=F 0010 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 41 09 41 09 41 09 41  .........A.A.A.AF 0020 09 41 09 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08  .A..............F 0030 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 08 41 09 41 09  ............A.A.   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:46:50 +0100 (MET) & From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>% Subject: One year warranty for ES45?!y6 Message-ID: <200110300746.IAA20486@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,  > I did hear, that the new one ES45 will come with only one yearA on site warranty. That may be the wish of Compaq. But the EuropinsA low says, that every product sold within the EU nust be sold withlB a two year warranty. It's Compaq's right to say, but only one year@ on site. Compaq should have a look to there competitors. Do they also shorten the warranty?@ Is the ES45 a bad design? so that it is destroyed often? I think@ and hope not. So what is the mention of shortening the warranty?< My personal opinion is, that Compaq should add a FCO upgradeB service for the warranty time, that we could buy with every Alpha.? Or better the should integrate this price in the machine price.O   TIA and regards Rudolf Wingert   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:48:03 +0000 ( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>) Subject: Re: One year warranty for ES45?!A) Message-ID: <3BDE7753.13665ADC@127.0.0.1>h   Rudolf Wingert wrote:R  @ > I did hear, that the new one ES45 will come with only one yearC > on site warranty. That may be the wish of Compaq. But the EuropinrC > low says, that every product sold within the EU nust be sold withtD > a two year warranty. It's Compaq's right to say, but only one yearB > on site. Compaq should have a look to there competitors. Do they > also shorten the warranty?  G In our business the warranty is useless, next business day? 2nd and 3rdt	 year RTB?e  E "We're sorry your Alpha is down, the memory is in the post." Like ouru! clients would accept that excuse.e  H When systems are installed they have (typically) 4 hour maintenance fromE day 1 More important sites have onsite engineering staff with a partsa" cache. What is the warranty worth?   -- h( Regards, Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciences nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:47:41 GMTh4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>) Subject: Re: One year warranty for ES45?!i> Message-ID: <NjxD7.161559$vq.39722633@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>  3 "Rudolf Wingert" <win@fom.fgan.de> wrote in message 0 news:200110300746.IAA20486@sinet1.fom.fgan.de... > Hello, >r@ > I did hear, that the new one ES45 will come with only one year > on site warranty.1   You heard correctly.  0 >That may be the wish of Compaq. But the EuropinC > low says, that every product sold within the EU nust be sold witheD > a two year warranty. It's Compaq's right to say, but only one yearB > on site. Compaq should have a look to there competitors. Do they > also shorten the warranty?  B In most cases, yes. Take a look at the HP, IBM, and Sun Web sites.   > Is the ES45 a bad design?g  % No. It's actually pretty darned good.s  & so that it is destroyed often? I thinkB > and hope not. So what is the mention of shortening the warranty?  I Cost savings. The shortened warranty allows Compaq to offer a lower entry= price.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:23:13 +0000 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>-) Subject: Re: One year warranty for ES45?!38 Message-ID: <ga6ttt8lpd4t8jkrpk6ubdj91jh4a07a3a@4ax.com>  F On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:48:03 +0000, Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> wrote:   >  >eH >In our business the warranty is useless, next business day? 2nd and 3rd
 >year RTB?  @ On the ES40 years 2 and 3 are also onsite next day guarantee. InF actuality it is very rare in my experience for a warranty call to takeE longer than a 4 hour response service call. When I used to work for ax9 university we stuck with warranty call-out to save money.rB Additionally, if you have enough redundancy in a cluster, warranty; might make sense commercially and almost certainly does fors development systems.  F Of course, if F-S is extremely busy, contract calls will take priorityF over warranty and a critical machine should be on contract (as are all our critical systems).  F >"We're sorry your Alpha is down, the memory is in the post." Like our" >clients would accept that excuse.  F As I said the ES40 is 3 years onsite guaranteed next day  response butB unless they are extremely busy they do turn up almost immediately.B It's not as if they tell the engineers to sit and do nothing for a day.   >oI >When systems are installed they have (typically) 4 hour maintenance fromiF >day 1 More important sites have onsite engineering staff with a parts# >cache. What is the warranty worth?   C To you not much but to other markets - especially the critical seed  academic market - quite a lot.   -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 14:16:15 +0000a% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>g) Subject: Re: One year warranty for ES45?!n8 Message-ID: <bfdtttchpnh75g09jjdsj7355ci8ahkt53@4ax.com>  4 On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:47:41 GMT, "Terry C. Shannon"" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote:   >  > J >Cost savings. The shortened warranty allows Compaq to offer a lower entry >price.o  F As the ES45 is considerably more expensive than the 833Mz ES40s I hateE to think what the price would have been with the three year warranty.n     -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 10:06:54 -0500a( From: David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>) Subject: Re: One year warranty for ES45?!o, Message-ID: <3BDEC20E.9080301@tsoft-inc.com>   Alan Greig wrote:y  6 > On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:47:41 GMT, "Terry C. Shannon"$ > <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote: >  >  >>K >>Cost savings. The shortened warranty allows Compaq to offer a lower entryi >>price. >> > H > As the ES45 is considerably more expensive than the 833Mz ES40s I hateG > to think what the price would have been with the three year warranty.  >  >  > -- > Alan >   ? Since we're talking about Compaq, who cannot imagine keeping a hF commitment for even 3 months, 3 years may be a time span beyond their H imagination.  Then again, it could be as simple as stupidity and greed, 1 features they've already demonstrated many times.h  E Gotta make some money somewhere.  Definitely not in PCs, so wring as  I much as you can out of the cash cow.  Real short term thinking, but, see s7 above comment on their long term thinking capabilities.    Dave   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com6 T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:14:13 GMTx4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>) Subject: Re: One year warranty for ES45?! = Message-ID: <FdBD7.25581$f6.12349916@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>e  5 "David Froble" <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote in messagee& news:3BDEC20E.9080301@tsoft-inc.com... > Alan Greig wrote:  >h8 > > On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:47:41 GMT, "Terry C. Shannon"& > > <terryshannon@mediaone.net> wrote: > >- > >c > >>G > >>Cost savings. The shortened warranty allows Compaq to offer a lowers entryO
 > >>price. > >> > >mJ > > As the ES45 is considerably more expensive than the 833Mz ES40s I hateI > > to think what the price would have been with the three year warranty.o > ># > >a > > -- > > Alan > >- >-@ > Since we're talking about Compaq, who cannot imagine keeping aG > commitment for even 3 months, 3 years may be a time span beyond their I > imagination.  Then again, it could be as simple as stupidity and greed,.3 > features they've already demonstrated many times.a >.F > Gotta make some money somewhere.  Definitely not in PCs, so wring asJ > much as you can out of the cash cow.  Real short term thinking, but, see9 > above comment on their long term thinking capabilities.y >c  C Correctomundo on peecees. I suspect that even Dell is gonna get its J comeuppance... they sure as heck blew their business model right outta the- water with their OEMed $599 bounded econobox.   K As for things bovine at CPQ, I saw the cash cow getting fed just last night K at the OpenVMS Ambassadors get-together. Plenty of new apps and a heck of arC lot of interest. This despite the economic downturn and the utterlyy squatulent 3FQ numbers.s  L IMHO VMS will be one of the relatively few good candidates for Ms. Fiorina'sE remake of the "Survivor" series, which ostensibly will be coming to a + Hewlett Pacquard near you next April or so.g   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:37:23 -0500n From: lroduner@americhem.com Subject: OT - HP's MPE-IXaC Message-ID: <OF830EA9D3.8598F247-ON85256AF5.0063BF0A@americhem.com>e  J Just curious - I know almost nothing about HP's MPE-IX.  I do know that itK is a non-UNIX OS developed by HP in the late 1970's to 1980s as a 16-bit OSoJ called MPE, then ported to 32-bits as MPE-IX; and that it is not receivingI a lot of work from HP now.  It does have a file system and database built  in also.  K How difficult would it be to move enough of the MPE-IX system functions and-G RTL's to VMS so that the existing MPE-IX applications could be "easily"tG ported to VMS?  Those applications would then gain the stability of VMSeH along with the best-in-class clustering and growth offered by VMS.  PlusF additional applications and customers certainly could only enhance theI visibility of VMS within CHomPaq, and give those MPE-IX users a future onKF the best OS in the world instead of withering on the vine, as they are
 doing now.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:03:14 -0500y- From: "John Eisenschmidt" <jeisensc@aaas.org>e4 Subject: OT: Bytes profiles Virtual Memory for Linux+ Message-ID: <sbde8909.064@AAASMTA.aaas.org>d  L Wow...am I glad I dropped Linux a couple years ago (BSD and Solaris are my =C Unix of choice). Gotta love the idea that "newer is better", right?s  G http://www.byte.com/documents/s=3D1436/byt20011024s0002/1029_moshe.htmli   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Oct 2001 10:22:49 -0600+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)s8 Subject: Re: OT: Bytes profiles Virtual Memory for Linux3 Message-ID: <GAdWoYtGB7+f@eisner.encompasserve.org>i  [ In article <sbde8909.064@AAASMTA.aaas.org>, "John Eisenschmidt" <jeisensc@aaas.org> writes: N > Wow...am I glad I dropped Linux a couple years ago (BSD and Solaris are my =E > Unix of choice). Gotta love the idea that "newer is better", right?h > I > http://www.byte.com/documents/s=3D1436/byt20011024s0002/1029_moshe.htmlh >   . 	It took a while but Alan Cox's name surfaced.   			Rob   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:27:36 +0000 ( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>8 Subject: Re: OT: Bytes profiles Virtual Memory for Linux) Message-ID: <3BDEE308.AB5DB5EF@127.0.0.1>0   John Eisenschmidt wrote: >  > Wow...am I glad I dropped Linux a couple years ago (BSD and Solaris are my Unix of choice). Gotta love the idea that "newer is better", right? > G > http://www.byte.com/documents/s=1436/byt20011024s0002/1029_moshe.htmle   John,b  E If you like that, try reading the VMS internals and Datastructures, ap@ more beautiful and elegant virtual memory system you'll not see.  F VMS gets it right. Not necessarily the best in all situations that canE be thrown at an operating system but it runs sweetly and reliably fore just about everyone.  D Amount of memory and number of CPU's are on the up and up, and linuxF needs to deal with that if it is to remain 'competitive', I understandH IBM are addressing SMP kernel issues, but if this discussion is anythingF to go by, the lack of project management could lead to the downfall of linux.   I like VMS.. -- e( Regards, Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciences nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:47:31 -0500 - From: "John Eisenschmidt" <jeisensc@aaas.org>l8 Subject: Re: OT: Bytes profiles Virtual Memory for Linux+ Message-ID: <sbdea176.051@AAASMTA.aaas.org>h  J I haven't read the internals manual, but that was sort of my point. Free =J software has always lagged in the high end (kernel reentrancy, SMP, file =J systems). Some of those things have gotten better with time (and through =L contributions - SGI XFS for example), but the cohesion of the contributors = could be deadly in the end.r  K My new favorite Unix has to be OpenBSD ("the proactively secure Unix-like =nK OS"). While it's very hardened, and very powerful, it was the result of a =EI split in the NetBSD community, has limited hardware support and no SMP. =CJ All that said, I'm still surprised at how little file system security is =L integrated into most of the Unix variants. I often find myself wishing for =J AUTHORIZE. Some of them support ACL-like features, but nothing like what = can be done with VMS.o  I While I (like many I'm sure) would like VMS file systems to employ more = I robust caching, what we have makes for a much more stable system. BSD's =cI UFS with softupdates is the only filesystem I've seen whose performance =CJ and stability are in line - but you don't get neatness like RMS (Berkley = hashes - yuck).3  A I like VMS too. I wish I could sell all my Unix friends on it.=20t  A >>> Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> 10/30/2001 12:27:36 PM >>>b John Eisenschmidt wrote: >=20K > Wow...am I glad I dropped Linux a couple years ago (BSD and Solaris are =rF my Unix of choice). Gotta love the idea that "newer is better", right? >=20J > http://www.byte.com/documents/s=3D1436/byt20011024s0002/1029_moshe.html= =204   John,P  E If you like that, try reading the VMS internals and Datastructures, a-@ more beautiful and elegant virtual memory system you'll not see.  F VMS gets it right. Not necessarily the best in all situations that canE be thrown at an operating system but it runs sweetly and reliably foro just about everyone.  D Amount of memory and number of CPU's are on the up and up, and linuxF needs to deal with that if it is to remain 'competitive', I understandH IBM are addressing SMP kernel issues, but if this discussion is anythingF to go by, the lack of project management could lead to the downfall of linux.   I like VMS.h --=20n( Regards, Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciences nclews at csc dot comg   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Oct 2001 05:26:47 -0800. From: SPAMSINK2001@YAHOO.COM (Alan E. Feldman)> Subject: Request for help with ANALYZE/ERROR disk error report= Message-ID: <343f30ae.0110300526.10f16d53@posting.google.com>i   Hello,  @ Can anyone please help me interpret this disk error report? What> happened and how serious is it? What do "TRACK FOLLOWING ERROR9 OCCURRED" and "WRITE EXTENDED" mean? Does the presence of E "%SYSTEM-S-NORMAL, NORMAL SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION" always imply a "softiA error" not generally worth worrying about except perhaps in large  numbers?  F TIA;  Disclaimer: JMHO;  Alan E. Feldman;  afeldman atski gfigroup.com replace atski with at-sign.p    $ TYPE DISKERR.POSTiF  V A X / V M S        SYSTEM ERROR REPORT         COMPILED 29-OCT-2001 03:48:52E                                                                      -	 PAGE   1.-  -/  ******************************* ENTRY    1288.M *******************************oF  ERROR SEQUENCE 17830.                           LOGGED ON:        SID 13000202F  DATE/TIME 29-OCT-2001 00:09:38.05                            SYS_TYPE 03260901   SYSTEM UPTIME: 38 DAYS 08:51:24F  SCS NODE: XXXXX                                               VAX/VMS V6.1   ?  DEVICE ERROR KA51  CPU Microcode Rev # 2.  CONSOLE FW REV# 2.6R@                       Standard Microcode Patch    Patch Rev # 1.  0%  RZ28 SUB-SYSTEM, UNIT _IDS09$DKA100:l  t        HW REVISION     43313444o9                                        HW REVISION = D41Ce        ERROR TYPE            05nC                                        EXTENDED SENSE DATA RECEIVEDh        SCSI ID               01n3                                        SCSI ID = 1.         SCSI LUN              0004                                        SCSI LUN = 0.        SCSI SUBLUN           00 7                                        SCSI SUBLUN = 0.0        PORT STATUS     000000018?                                        %SYSTEM-S-NORMAL, NORMAL8
 SUCCESSFUL2                                         COMPLETION        SCSI CMD        3C00002A0                        000081A2f                            0078c5                                        WRITE EXTENDED0        SCSI STATUS           02 6                                        CHECK CONDITION  h  EXTENDED SENSE DATA  a        EXTENDED SENSE  000300F0o                        0AB2A23C                         00620000e                        00020009r                            0000 3                                        MEDIUM ERROR E                                        TRACK FOLLOWING ERROR OCCURREDE        UCB$B_ERTCNT          04e;                                        4. RETRIES REMAININGo        UCB$B_ERTMAX          00r;                                        0. RETRIES ALLOWABLEc        ORB$L_OWNER     00010004c:                                        OWNER UIC [001,004]        UCB$L_CHAR      1C4D4008 ;                                        DIRECTORY STRUCTURED-4                                        FILE ORIENTED/                                        SHARABLEO0                                        AVAILABLE.                                        MOUNTED4                                        ERROR LOGGING7                                        CAPABLE OF INPUTo8                                        CAPABLE OF OUTPUT4                                        RANDOM ACCESS  aF  V A X / V M S        SYSTEM ERROR REPORT         COMPILED 29-OCT-2001 03:48:52E                                                                      n	 PAGE   2.s  h        UCB$W_STS           0000e        UCB$L_OPCNT     000D435E >                                        869214. QIO'S THIS UNIT        UCB$W_ERRCNT        0001a:                                        1. ERRORS THIS UNIT        IRP$W_BCNT          8000 C                                        TRANSFER SIZE 32768. BYTE(S)h        IRP$W_BOFF          0000 <                                        TRANSFER PAGE ALIGNED        IRP$L_PID       004C002D-6                                        REQUESTOR "PID"        IRP$Q_IOSB      00000001mC                        00DF0000        IOSB, 0. BYTE(S) TRANSFERRED A ANAL/ERROR/INCL=DISK/SINC=28-OCT-2001 00:00:00.00/OUT=DISKERR.LISr $<   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:13:10 -0000g9 From: "Michael Worsley" <michael.worsley@praxis-cs.co.uk> & Subject: savesets,  CDs and attributes4 Message-ID: <9rm269$uqdna$1@ID-65806.news.dfncis.de>   Hi,f  K Our company is looking at distributing the VAX version of our product on CDt instead of TK50.  H Unfortunately, FTPing our saveset from the CD back to the VAX resets the record length to 512bytes.  H I have looked at RESET_BACKUP_SAVESET_ATTRIBUTES.COM but, unfortunately,B some of our customers use VAX/VMS 5.5-2, which doesn't support theA /ATTRIBUTES  qualifier to SET FILE that is used to reset the filet attributes.t  4 Any suggestions of another approach I could look at?   -- Michaeli   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:24:52 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>a* Subject: Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes; Message-ID: <01KA41E7EQ9U8YAE79@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>n  M > Our company is looking at distributing the VAX version of our product on CDe > instead of TK50. > J > Unfortunately, FTPing our saveset from the CD back to the VAX resets the > record length to 512bytes. > J > I have looked at RESET_BACKUP_SAVESET_ATTRIBUTES.COM but, unfortunately,D > some of our customers use VAX/VMS 5.5-2, which doesn't support theC > /ATTRIBUTES  qualifier to SET FILE that is used to reset the filea
 > attributes.  > 6 > Any suggestions of another approach I could look at?   ZIP and UNZIP?  G the /VMS (or -"V" if you for some reason use the unix-style interface) eH preserves the proper attributes.  This is useful if the file(s) is (are)H ever on non-VMS systems, get transferred over TCPIP (perhaps from a WWW E server) etc.  ZIP and UNZIP are very portable, run on VAX and ALPHA,  B sources are available if you don't trust the .OBJ or .EXE etc etc.  ;    http://vms.process.com/scripts/fileserv/fileserv.com?ZIP.  =    http://vms.process.com/scripts/fileserv/fileserv.com?UNZIPp   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:43:26 -0000.9 From: "Michael Worsley" <michael.worsley@praxis-cs.co.uk>i* Subject: Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes4 Message-ID: <9rm3v0$uukc1$1@ID-65806.news.dfncis.de>  5 Jan-Erik Sderholm <noone@dummy.com> wrote in message # news:3BDE90D2.C219D36F@dummy.com...r9 > Why not just use $COPY to copy from the CD to the VAX ?c  G Unfortunately, we cannot assume that our clients' machines have a CDROM- drive.   -- Michael-   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:36:50 +0100g= From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <noone@dummy.com>D* Subject: Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes) Message-ID: <3BDE90D2.C219D36F@dummy.com>r  7 Why not just use $COPY to copy from the CD to the VAX ?    Jan-Erik Sderholm.o   Phillip Helbig wrote:m > M > Our company is looking at distributing the VAX version of our product on CDt > instead of TK50. >aJ > Unfortunately, FTPing our saveset from the CD back to the VAX resets the > record length to 512bytes. >-   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:58:29 +0100<= From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <noone@dummy.com>o* Subject: Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes) Message-ID: <3BDE95E5.29715706@dummy.com>t   OK.27 Then, what about these self-extracting kits that Compaqn2 uses ? I mean those with a ".pcsi-dcx_axpexe" file2 extension. Does anybody know if there public tools2 to create these files ? Normaly one of these files3 contain one .PCSI file, but coudn't it just as well  contain a BACKUP saveset ?  8 There should not be any FTP problem with these, they are 512 block executables anyway.    Jan-Erik Sderholm   Michael Worsley wrote: > 7 > Jan-Erik Sderholm <noone@dummy.com> wrote in messagen% > news:3BDE90D2.C219D36F@dummy.com...l; > > Why not just use $COPY to copy from the CD to the VAX ?a > I > Unfortunately, we cannot assume that our clients' machines have a CDROM  > drive. >  > --	 > Michael    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Oct 2001 13:41:41 +0100* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)* Subject: Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes* Message-ID: <3bdea005$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  p In article <9rm269$uqdna$1@ID-65806.news.dfncis.de>, "Michael Worsley" <michael.worsley@praxis-cs.co.uk> writes:L >Our company is looking at distributing the VAX version of our product on CD >instead of TK50.1 >:I >Unfortunately, FTPing our saveset from the CD back to the VAX resets theR >record length to 512bytes.? > I >I have looked at RESET_BACKUP_SAVESET_ATTRIBUTES.COM but, unfortunately,oC >some of our customers use VAX/VMS 5.5-2, which doesn't support thesB >/ATTRIBUTES  qualifier to SET FILE that is used to reset the file >attributes. >y5 >Any suggestions of another approach I could look at?    UNZIPSFX  C A ZIP/UNZIP archive with the UNZIP.EXE boundled, so that the clientoE only needs to RUN the .EXE (just the same as Q does with the freewareoG kits and similar to that was Q does with the VMS ECOs in DCX format) tolH unpack the kit (or in case the client has some/strange security concerns9 UNZIP the kit with the client's own qualified UNZIP.EXE).a   -- e< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888s< <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Oct 2001 06:55:04 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)n* Subject: Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes3 Message-ID: <GSzFBwz8MYKV@eisner.encompasserve.org>   p In article <9rm3v0$uukc1$1@ID-65806.news.dfncis.de>, "Michael Worsley" <michael.worsley@praxis-cs.co.uk> writes:7 > Jan-Erik Sderholm <noone@dummy.com> wrote in message % > news:3BDE90D2.C219D36F@dummy.com...t: >> Why not just use $COPY to copy from the CD to the VAX ? > I > Unfortunately, we cannot assume that our clients' machines have a CDROMt > drive.  1 Copy it over DECnet.  DECnet can run over TCP/IP.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 13:18:23 -0000h9 From: "Michael Worsley" <michael.worsley@praxis-cs.co.uk> * Subject: Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes4 Message-ID: <9rm9h2$ftp9r$1@ID-65806.news.dfncis.de>  8 Larry Kilgallen <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message- news:GSzFBwz8MYKV@eisner.encompasserve.org...5H > In article <9rm3v0$uukc1$1@ID-65806.news.dfncis.de>, "Michael Worsley") <michael.worsley@praxis-cs.co.uk> writes: 9 > > Jan-Erik Sderholm <noone@dummy.com> wrote in message1' > > news:3BDE90D2.C219D36F@dummy.com...r< > >> Why not just use $COPY to copy from the CD to the VAX ? > >rK > > Unfortunately, we cannot assume that our clients' machines have a CDROMo
 > > drive. >l3 > Copy it over DECnet.  DECnet can run over TCP/IP.   L That sorts the transport medium out (which will be dependant on our clients'8 system anyway) but doesn't address the corrupt save-set.  L I've settled on sending a copy of Joe Meadow's FILE.EXE with our saveset andI providing instructions on using it to correct the saveset.  Are there anye? likely distribution issues arising from including this utility?r   -- Michael    ------------------------------   Date: 30 Oct 2001 12:22:24 GMT3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann)a* Subject: Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes0 Message-ID: <9rm620$5sa$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  p In article <9rm269$uqdna$1@ID-65806.news.dfncis.de>, "Michael Worsley" <michael.worsley@praxis-cs.co.uk> writes: >Hi, > L >Our company is looking at distributing the VAX version of our product on CD >instead of TK50.  >tI >Unfortunately, FTPing our saveset from the CD back to the VAX resets the9 >record length to 512bytes.-  M So why don't you create VMS CDs? There are two possibilities to achieve this:.@ a) connect a CD-writer to a VMS machine and use the program from    Heuser-HofmannDL b) use VDDRIVER and transfer the container file via FTP to a PC. Then create/    the CD there and use the file as a CD image.g  8 All this is documenten in the OpenVMS-FAQ (topic FILE7):   Regards,    Christoph Gartmannn  H -- --------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, FRG                                               |H +--------- http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/english/menue.html ---------+   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:12:01 -0500 - From: "Rebecca Snyder" <rsnyder@atlasdie.com>t* Subject: RE: savesets,  CDs and attributes? Message-ID: <MPBBIEGNHCKJGNKPHFAPOEMFCLAA.rsnyder@atlasdie.com>e   Michael,  ; Try file.zip from the link below. I've used it in VMS 5.5-2a> to change .BCK attributes back to something I can actually use) when I've had to ftp them from pc to vax.n  2 	http://vms.process.com/ftp/vms-freeware/FILESERV/     Rebecca Snyder Atlas Companies, Inc.t mailto:rsnyder@atlasdie.como   -----Original Message-----> From: Michael Worsley [mailto:michael.worsley@praxis-cs.co.uk]' Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 6:13 AMt To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comr% Subject: savesets, CDs and attributest     Hi,s  K Our company is looking at distributing the VAX version of our product on CDw instead of TK50.  H Unfortunately, FTPing our saveset from the CD back to the VAX resets the record length to 512bytes.  H I have looked at RESET_BACKUP_SAVESET_ATTRIBUTES.COM but, unfortunately,B some of our customers use VAX/VMS 5.5-2, which doesn't support theA /ATTRIBUTES  qualifier to SET FILE that is used to reset the file  attributes.e  4 Any suggestions of another approach I could look at?   -- Michaele   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:15:51 GMTm= From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)u* Subject: Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes0 Message-ID: <00A044B4.50D4819A@SendSpamHere.ORG>  p In article <9rm269$uqdna$1@ID-65806.news.dfncis.de>, "Michael Worsley" <michael.worsley@praxis-cs.co.uk> writes: >Hi, >dL >Our company is looking at distributing the VAX version of our product on CD >instead of TK50.r >rI >Unfortunately, FTPing our saveset from the CD back to the VAX resets thef >record length to 512bytes.e >tI >I have looked at RESET_BACKUP_SAVESET_ATTRIBUTES.COM but, unfortunately,RC >some of our customers use VAX/VMS 5.5-2, which doesn't support the B >/ATTRIBUTES  qualifier to SET FILE that is used to reset the file >attributes. > 5 >Any suggestions of another approach I could look at?a >c >--e >Michael >m  # Burn ODS-2 CDs instead of ISO-9660.  --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMo            eJ   "And of course, I'm a genius, so people are naturally drawn to my fiery I   intellect.  Their admiration overwhelms their envy!" -- Calvin & Hobbes>   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:58:34 +0100g2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender)* Subject: Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes; Message-ID: <3bdec01a.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>t  > Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= (noone@dummy.com) wrote: > Michael Worsley wrote:1 > > Jan-Erik Sderholm <noone@dummy.com> wrote...s= > > > Why not just use $COPY to copy from the CD to the VAX ?o > > E > > Unfortunately, we cannot assume that our clients' machines have ac > > CDROM drive. >p > OK. 9 > Then, what about these self-extracting kits that Compaqe4 > uses ? I mean those with a ".pcsi-dcx_axpexe" file4 > extension. Does anybody know if there public tools4 > to create these files ? Normaly one of these files5 > contain one .PCSI file, but coudn't it just as welln > contain a BACKUP saveset ?  C Sure it can. Unfortunately, AFAIK the DCX_AXPEXE creator program ishB not in the public. Fortunately, there's InfoZIP which comes with a< UNZIPSFX utility to create self-extracting executables, like  ( $ ZIP "-Vj9" saveset.bck-zip saveset.bck< $ COPY somewhere:unzipsfx.exe + sys$disk:[]saveset.bck-zip - _$ saveset.bck-zip_axpexeg  = Works like a charm. And if someone isn't trusting the exe, he,( can use UNZIP to unpack it all the same.   cu,    Martin -- hD                         | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer1  VMS is today what      | work: mv@pdv-systeme.deeE  Microsoft wants        |    http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/s8  Windows NT 8.0 to be!  | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 15:50:11 +0000d4 From: John Laird <john@laird-towers.freeserve.co.uk>* Subject: Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes8 Message-ID: <kiittt8epvn0j2p0t5fpoa7kjoee229t2e@4ax.com>  5 On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:43:26 -0000, "Michael Worsley" ( <michael.worsley@praxis-cs.co.uk> wrote:  6 >Jan-Erik Sderholm <noone@dummy.com> wrote in message$ >news:3BDE90D2.C219D36F@dummy.com...: >> Why not just use $COPY to copy from the CD to the VAX ? > H >Unfortunately, we cannot assume that our clients' machines have a CDROM >drive.S  E But presumably you had, until now, assumed they had a TK50-compatible H drive ?  Assumption of a CDROM is fairly widespread and not unreasonable in this day and age.  C Burn ODS-2 disks, or, if feeling extraordinarily generous with your F time, dual-format (ODS-2 and ISO9660) disks, but for complete peace ofE mind, only put ZIP files on the ISO9660 part (ZIP a backup saveset toeG preserve the VMS file attributes within) and enclose a suitably ancient 
 UNZIP.EXE.  G All said, it'd probably be less effort to concentrate on pure ODS-2 CDs * and create TK50's by hand whenever needed.     	John  -- 0
 John Laird Yezerski Roper Ltd   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Oct 2001 10:12:20 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) * Subject: Re: savesets,  CDs and attributes3 Message-ID: <pi1JXn8K2zrH@eisner.encompasserve.org>8  p In article <9rm9h2$ftp9r$1@ID-65806.news.dfncis.de>, "Michael Worsley" <michael.worsley@praxis-cs.co.uk> writes:: > Larry Kilgallen <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message/ > news:GSzFBwz8MYKV@eisner.encompasserve.org... I >> In article <9rm3v0$uukc1$1@ID-65806.news.dfncis.de>, "Michael Worsley"K+ > <michael.worsley@praxis-cs.co.uk> writes: : >> > Jan-Erik Sderholm <noone@dummy.com> wrote in message( >> > news:3BDE90D2.C219D36F@dummy.com...= >> >> Why not just use $COPY to copy from the CD to the VAX ?  >> >L >> > Unfortunately, we cannot assume that our clients' machines have a CDROM >> > drive.K >>4 >> Copy it over DECnet.  DECnet can run over TCP/IP. > N > That sorts the transport medium out (which will be dependant on our clients': > system anyway) but doesn't address the corrupt save-set.  G Are you saying that you experienced a saveset corruption using DECnet ?    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Oct 2001 05:43:45 -0800( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) Subject: Re: SSH for Alpha VMS< Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0110300543.c3e3041@posting.google.com>  X jamese@beast.dtsw.army.mil wrote in message news:<01102910372245@beast.dtsw.army.mil>...K > bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) wrote on 29 Oct 2001 05:48:12 -0800 inR3 > <d7791aa1.0110290548.e205a79@posting.google.com>:P > P > > they have a management interface if you want to pay extra, but i think netcuN > > management is easy ... most of time i can configure want i want by editingN > > the tcpware configuration file if you know what you are doing ... also theQ > > logic of the commands is much easier than ucx ... multinet and tcpware on the0O > > command level are very similiar because process software owns both, the big9N > > difference being that tcpware runs best because it is vms kernel based ...P > > multinet and ucx are unix based ... we did extensive testing and tcpware wonM > > conclusively ... you can accept our findings or ignore them ... your loss  > > on performance!  > O > You have again posted statements without any backup documentation. Why should N > we accept your "findings" when you don't support them with facts? Until then/ > I have to take your statements as subjective.I >  > Again, I say:F > - > Do you have any statistics to back this up?: > < > Ed James                           ed.james@telecomsys.com7 > TeleCommunications Systems, Inc.   voice 410-295-1919l= > 2024 West Street, Suite 300              800-810-0827 x1919 7 > Annapolis, MD 21401-3556           fax   410-280-1094.  F we do not document our findings ... they are conclusive ... this is anE informative board ... what you do with the info is up to you ... i am F surprised that people here don't understand how good the vms kernel isC and that properly written software using the vms kernel will alwaystD outperform unix kernel based software ... this isn't rocket science!   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 16:07:28 GMTt3 From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk> . Subject: Re: trying to setup a TF86 tape drive/ Message-ID: <3BDECF82.CCF2E2B8@cableinet.co.uk>4   Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:i > " > All SCSI drives are named TZxxx.# > TFxxx is, if I'm not wrong, DSSI.n > " > Tip : try to sell it on Ebay ;-) >   3 It is possible to replace the DSSI controller boardi7 with a SCSI one. I had to do that for a system that was 5 off maintenance once, made a TF86 into a TZ86 (we hade some surplus TF86's).    > Jan-Erik Sderholm >  > Michael Holmes wrote:  > >a7 > > I purchased a used Digital TF86 DLT drive off EBay.oN > > I have a Dec 3000 with a SCSI-2 external interface and a standard Win95 PC > > with SCSI-2.   -- r Tim.Llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk  t  C Standard disclaimer applies. My views in no way represent those of  ! my employers or service provider.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:16:31 +0000r( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>. Subject: Re: trying to setup a TF86 tape drive) Message-ID: <3BDEE06F.FF057506@127.0.0.1>f   Tim Llewellyn wrote: >  > Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:, > >o$ > > All SCSI drives are named TZxxx.% > > TFxxx is, if I'm not wrong, DSSI.  > >t$ > > Tip : try to sell it on Ebay ;-) > >e > 5 > It is possible to replace the DSSI controller board/9 > with a SCSI one. I had to do that for a system that was-7 > off maintenance once, made a TF86 into a TZ86 (we hada > some surplus TF86's).l  G You're right. An ex DECcie told me it is possible to swap TZ85 and TF86DF controller boards, and they work, therefore getting a 'cheap' upgrade.E (He says the 86's and 88's are not quite so forgiving but never triedh it)   H Perhaps you can find a cheap TZ85 or a TZ with a dead transport but good
 controller...r  @ After reading your original message, you maybe could find a DSSIG controller for your DEC 3000 (IS this a turbochannel? Does it have EISAaE slots) and use a KFESA or KFESB. Is there another DSSI controller forv- this Alpha? (Another message suggested that).D  1 I wouldn't say no to a surplus TF86..............o -- o( Regards, Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciences nclews at csc dot comw   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:49:33 GMTu5 From: "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@REMOVETHISossc.net>l Subject: Unix-based, VMS-based? ? Message-ID: <NKBD7.2950$tb2.211364@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>-  J I'm getting curious.  I am seeing a lot about "Unix-based" and "VMS-based" references in here lately.  L What is "unix-based" software and "vms-based" software?  That is, aside fromG the obvious suggestion that one was developed on a particular platform.-  G With the Unix-based code probably written in C, and the VMS-based stuff L (TCPWARE) written in Macro-32 (i.e. VAX), what else would be the difference?  G Performance has to be measured in some way. The direct performance of a L network kernel is usually not cited.  It's usually FTP, or NFS, or whatever.L If a product with a Unix-based kernel is running VMS-based applications, howL is it characterized?  If the VMS application yields bad performance numbers,' is that because of a Unix-based kernel?.   -Johnh    5 "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in message 6 news:d7791aa1.0110300543.c3e3041@posting.google.com...- > jamese@beast.dtsw.army.mil wrote in messagee, news:<01102910372245@beast.dtsw.army.mil>...J > > bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) wrote on 29 Oct 2001 05:48:12 -0800 in5 > > <d7791aa1.0110290548.e205a79@posting.google.com>:0 > >eL > > > they have a management interface if you want to pay extra, but i think netcusH > > > management is easy ... most of time i can configure want i want by editingtL > > > the tcpware configuration file if you know what you are doing ... also theTL > > > logic of the commands is much easier than ucx ... multinet and tcpware on theI > > > command level are very similiar because process software owns both,e the bigmL > > > difference being that tcpware runs best because it is vms kernel based ...lF > > > multinet and ucx are unix based ... we did extensive testing and tcpware wonoJ > > > conclusively ... you can accept our findings or ignore them ... your loss > > > on performance!h > >eJ > > You have again posted statements without any backup documentation. Why shouldK > > we accept your "findings" when you don't support them with facts? Untilk then1 > > I have to take your statements as subjective.  > >r > > Again, I say:i > >e/ > > Do you have any statistics to back this up?e > >L> > > Ed James                           ed.james@telecomsys.com9 > > TeleCommunications Systems, Inc.   voice 410-295-1919H? > > 2024 West Street, Suite 300              800-810-0827 x1919 9 > > Annapolis, MD 21401-3556           fax   410-280-1094  >-H > we do not document our findings ... they are conclusive ... this is anG > informative board ... what you do with the info is up to you ... i amtH > surprised that people here don't understand how good the vms kernel isE > and that properly written software using the vms kernel will always.F > outperform unix kernel based software ... this isn't rocket science!   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Oct 2001 12:09:28 -0600+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)X# Subject: Re: Unix-based, VMS-based?s3 Message-ID: <V31+ZJsm9eoh@eisner.encompasserve.org>.  w In article <NKBD7.2950$tb2.211364@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>, "John Gemignani, Jr." <john@REMOVETHISossc.net> writes: L > I'm getting curious.  I am seeing a lot about "Unix-based" and "VMS-based" > references in here lately. > N > What is "unix-based" software and "vms-based" software?  That is, aside fromI > the obvious suggestion that one was developed on a particular platform.g > I > With the Unix-based code probably written in C, and the VMS-based stuff N > (TCPWARE) written in Macro-32 (i.e. VAX), what else would be the difference? >   : 	This could quickly become a rat-hole but.. what the heck.  ? 	VMS based .. could include using RMS calls (RMS attributes and @ 	whatnot on fopen, fwrite, etc.) AST's, etc.  Things that simply 	don't exist in Unix.   C 	By the way, much (most) VMS development (i.e. kernel etc.) is donet9 	in C now and publically discussed here and other places.e   				Robm   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:19:38 +0100 (MET)o& From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>* Subject: What's happen with DECUS Germany?6 Message-ID: <200110300719.IAA20449@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,  F does anybody know, what's happen with DECUS Germany. If you can login,H you will find seldom notes entries. Most time you will see zero entries.C Today I was logged in. During writing a note, the session closed bybG connection lost. Testing the WEB I did get the eror: Failed to connect.2   Best regards Rudolf Wingert.   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Oct 2001 06:47:47 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)hH Subject: Re: windows xp already hacked ... while vms "unhackable" (Not!)3 Message-ID: <d+FkdyJh6W$L@eisner.encompasserve.org>t  [ In article <3BDE2D59.3F11C21B@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:i  * >> http://www.theinquirer.net/26100112.htm  A >> That means it's only a short step to pirated boxed counterfeite> >> software being available in the bazaars of Asian countries. > J > Hhmmm... Seems our fiends (intentional spelling) in Redmond have found aJ > new way to achieve greater dominance - *INVITING* piracy in markets they% > cannot control or exploit publicly.-  6 That has been reported to be their strategy for years.  B Note, however, that VMS is far from "unhackable" in this regard --C since bypassing Windows licensing controls is analogous to patching 0 LMF on VMS, something that dates to before 1992.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:31:24 GMT = From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-)eB Subject: Re: windows xp already hacked ... while vms "unhackable"!0 Message-ID: <00A04494.F6301F35@SendSpamHere.ORG>  [ In article <3BDE2D59.3F11C21B@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:K {...snip...}I >Hhmmm... Seems our fiends (intentional spelling) in Redmond have found aeI >new way to achieve greater dominance - *INVITING* piracy in markets theyc$ >cannot control or exploit publicly. >mC >Perhaps "Bill Gates" is but a nomme de plume for Mr. Blofeld after  >all...   E I saw him with his persian cat addressing a meeting of S.P.E.C.T.R.E.iF (Software Producing Entities Conspiring Terror, Reboots, Exploitation) members.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM,            iJ   "And of course, I'm a genius, so people are naturally drawn to my fiery I   intellect.  Their admiration overwhelms their envy!" -- Calvin & Hobbes    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 12:12:06 +0000e% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>TB Subject: Re: windows xp already hacked ... while vms "unhackable"!8 Message-ID: <uv5tttgqr68scg79oubf1ck9k91g4p19ps@4ax.com>  @ On Tue, 30 Oct 2001 11:31:24 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG (Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-) wrote:k   >..  > F >I saw him with his persian cat addressing a meeting of S.P.E.C.T.R.E.G >(Software Producing Entities Conspiring Terror, Reboots, Exploitation)u	 >members.R  A And  Microsoft managed to run ads which appeared to show the twinS@ towers crashing to the ground in an advert for disaster tolerantF Microsoft (sic) clusters. These ads ran in the UK at least immediately@ following  Sep 11th but were booked before hand. Then the launchF slogan for Windows XP was to have been "learn to fly" featuring people# flying up into high-rise buildings.h  / I'm not making this up either. Spooky or what? d -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:53:47 +0100u From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>/ Subject: Re: X.25 profile documentation wanted. ' Message-ID: <3BDE4E7A.84D7452E@home.nl>e  P The Decnis is used as a X.25 relay server between the X.25 network and the Tru64L systems. Connection between Decnis and Tru64 systems is established via LLC2M links over ethernet. The problem is that it is not a public X.25 network ( inrM the Netherlands that would be Datanet-1 ), but a special X.25 network used toiK connect national and international telephone switches. Do you have any idea-P where I can find the latest version of the Decnis software (which VMS CD kit for instance) ?.   Regards,   Dirk   "Dong, Jerry" wrote:  N > Is this an X.25 client (the OpenVMS and Tru64 systems) / server (the DECnis)M > configuration or are the Alphaservers cabled into the DECnis's WAN card viat > X.25 adapters? >rK > Other than configuring a custom profile, you may want use the profile forhF > your local PSDN (since I'm in Canada, I use Datapac).  Unless you'reK > connecting to a public network, you can probably configure your DTE's anye; > way you want as long as the corresponding DTE/DCEs match.i >a9 > Note: Latest version of the DECnis software is v4.1-9B.  >r > Jerryt >s > -----Original Message-----' > From: Dirk Munk [mailto:munk@home.nl]P  > Sent: October 20, 2001 2:53 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Coms- > Subject: X.25 profile documentation wanted.C >XJ > A the moment I am working on some X.25 connections, using Decnis routers: > (latest software version, 4.1.1), VMS 7.2 and Tru64 5.1.G > We are using a private X.25 network, and I'm trying to find the rightmJ > profile for this network. It used to be that Compaq had a nice book withF > the names and settings for all X.25 profiles that they supplied, but > that was around 1987 or so.eJ > These days I can't find any information about the profiles I can choose,I > not the names and not the contents of the profiles. Furthermore I wouldeJ > like to know what is in the profiles, except for the obvious things likeJ > window sizes and other configurable items. Are there any settings in the4 > profiles that can not be changed by NCL commands ? >r
 > Regards, >< > Dirk   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 09:09:15 +0100s From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>/ Subject: Re: X.25 profile documentation wanted.:' Message-ID: <3BDE602A.29DAC357@home.nl>r   Hi Antonio,c  G Can you mail me FCNS$NI.TXT please ? Doesn't seem to be in our sys$helpw .......2N I suspected that there was more in the profiles than just the parameters I canL change with NCL, and I'm glad you can confirm this. Do you happen to know ifJ these profile collection files are the same for all X.25 software ? I meanM Decnis, VMS and Tru64. In that case it should be possible to keep these filesnK up to date for the Decnis by just using the files from VMS or Tru64. And doyH you happen to know if it is possible to create your own profile, if that should be necessary ?d   Regards,   Dirk     "antonio.carlini" wrote:   > Dirk Munk wrote: > >tL > > A the moment I am working on some X.25 connections, using Decnis routers< > > (latest software version, 4.1.1), VMS 7.2 and Tru64 5.1. >-3 > I thought the latest (and last) version was 4.1.7  >JI > > We are using a private X.25 network, and I'm trying to find the right-L > > profile for this network. It used to be that Compaq had a nice book with >n. > For anything built in the last decade or so,* > ISO8208 or one of its variants is almost/ > certainly what you want. Most modern switchese > would support this.  >sH > > the names and settings for all X.25 profiles that they supplied, but > > that was around 1987 or so. L > > These days I can't find any information about the profiles I can choose, >D/ > Look at SYS$HELP:FCNS$NI.TXT (you nee the X25c, > part of DECnet-Plus installed to have this- > file ... I can mail it to you if you cannots
 > locate it).: >EK > > not the names and not the contents of the profiles. Furthermore I wouldtL > > like to know what is in the profiles, except for the obvious things likeL > > window sizes and other configurable items. Are there any settings in the6 > > profiles that can not be changed by NCL commands ? >i/ > The profile describes a whole bunch of stuff,y. > such as whether to poll with SABM or DM, the. > ranges for the various LAPB and Packet Layer > parameters and so on.  > & > Almost none of this can be overriden( > by NCL commands. The point of profiles, > was to avoid having many, many parameters,2 > all of which the manager would have to get right5 > for the link to work. Instead a set of pre-packagedo1 > parameters were supplied for each known networkm > type.  >@	 > Antonio. >  > -- >l > ---------------t/ > Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.orge   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 17:44:10 +0000o% From: "a.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> / Subject: Re: X.25 profile documentation wanted.f' Message-ID: <3BDEE6EA.CC41A4A9@iee.org>w   Dirk Munk wrote: > R > The Decnis is used as a X.25 relay server between the X.25 network and the Tru64N > systems. Connection between Decnis and Tru64 systems is established via LLC2O > links over ethernet. The problem is that it is not a public X.25 network ( inuO > the Netherlands that would be Datanet-1 ), but a special X.25 network used to.M > connect national and international telephone switches. Do you have any idea   0 Ask the switch manufacturer whether they support- ISO8208, configure the switch to use that andm# set the DECnis to use that profile..  R > where I can find the latest version of the Decnis software (which VMS CD kit for > instance) ?.  , For the latest software, I think you need to
 go to COMPAQ.      Antonioh   --     ---------------t- Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.org    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Oct 2001 11:09:32 +0100* From: eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)2 Subject: [VMS V7.3 VAX] my first crash since years* Message-ID: <3bde7c5c$1@news.kapsch.co.at>  W In article <3bbcdf72$1@news.kapsch.co.at>, eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) writes:.J >I recently completed the OpenVMS upgrade to VMS V7.3 here and today I had >my first crash:  / And yesterday I had my first crash on VAX, too:t    System crash informationr  ------------------------m.  Time of system crash: 29-OCT-2001 16:39:49.86  1  Version of system: OpenVMS (TM) VAX Version V7.3   &  System Version Major ID/Minor ID: 1/0  !  System type: VAXstation 4000-VLC.  $  Crash CPU ID/Primary CPU ID:  00/00  5  Bitmask of CPUs active/available:  00000001/00000001.    CPU bugcheck codes:A         CPU 00 -- SSRVEXCEPT, Unexpected system service exceptionI  #  CPU 00 Processor crash informationo#  ----------------------------------s  L  CPU 00 reason for Bugcheck: SSRVEXCEPT, Unexpected system service exception  .  Process currently executing on this CPU: NMBD    Current IPL: 2  (decimal)     CPU database address:  82124000   ...m   Process stacks (on CPU 00) --------------------------! Current operating stack (KERNEL):o  "                 7FFE7700  8163AD00"                 7FFE7704  4801AE63"                 7FFE7708  8166A28A<                 7FFE770C  7FFE7738      CTL$GL_KSTKBAS+00538<                 7FFE7710  7FFE7720      CTL$GL_KSTKBAS+00520<                 7FFE7714  7FFE7718      CTL$GL_KSTKBAS+005183                 7FFE7718  810D7FE3      EXE$EXCPTNEa8                 7FFE771C  00020000      SYS$K_VERSION_03  "          SP =>  7FFE7720  00000000"                 7FFE7724  00000000"                 7FFE7728  7FEAED38<                 7FFE772C  7FFE77E4      CTL$GL_KSTKBAS+005E48                 7FFE7730  80000014      EXE$QIOW_3+00004<                 7FFE7734  810DA8E7      EXE$CONTSIGNAL+00092"                 7FFE7738  00000002<                 7FFE773C  7FFE775C      CTL$GL_KSTKBAS+0055C ...T  5 This is obviously not an XFC issue like on the Alpha.'M Could this be (known suspect) TCPIP V5.1 ECO3 or VMS V7.3 or hardware again ?r  F Unfortunately, CLUE data is not available (I wonder why) and I have to; investigate this, too (but surely not this or next week)...t   -- e< Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111-2651; Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111-888g< <<< KAPSCH AG  Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netH A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.604 ************************