1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 25 Sep 2001	Volume 2001 : Issue 534       Contents: Backspace problem  Re: Backspace problem  Re: Backspace problem  Re: Backspace problem + Re: c$main undefined in hello-world program  FORTRAN terminal IO  Re: FORTRAN terminal IO  Re: FORTRAN terminal IO  Re: FORTRAN terminal IO 2 Re: HOW DO I change FAB file attributes in C code?2 Re: HOW DO I change FAB file attributes in C code?2 RE: How do I send an attachment with OpenVMS mail?2 RE: How do I send an attachment with OpenVMS mail?A motifzone.net - the site for Open Motif Developers (monthly post) $ Re: New..Wiring in terminals...help? OT: VMS DECnet and X Emulator  Re: Pointy-Haired-manager toy ( Re: Time To Publicize VMSClusters At WTC( Re: Time To Publicize VMSClusters At WTC( RE: Time To Publicize VMSClusters At WTC VAX 7000 hw support going away?  Re: VAX disaster tolerance' Re: VAX DOCUMENT! Off Topic but On Tool ( RE: VAX-Alpha Migration: COBOL/BASIC/FMS Re: We are back from CETS & Re: Whose Running The Oldest Software?& Re: Whose Running The Oldest Software?& Re: Whose Running The Oldest Software? Re: World Trade Center Re: World Trade Center Re: World Trade CenterE www.motifzone.net - the site for Open Motif Developers (monthly post) 0 Re: [jfc] Seen in one of my older crash dumps...0 Re: [jfc] Seen in one of my older crash dumps...> Re: [VMScluster] Cross Architecture Boot with Cluster_Config ?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:36:59 +0200 * From: David Romero <david.romero@gedas.es> Subject: Backspace problem( Message-ID: <3BB0341B.6BB30528@gedas.es>   Hi,   H I have some Vax and Alphastations to administrate, but not in my office. My computer runs UNIX, so i can  connect with TELNET.  E The problem is that backspace key moves de cursor to the beginning of % the line, instead of deleting de last ) character.  (I can do it with delete key)    Anyone know how correct it ?   if I do sh terminal :   > Terminal: _TNA8:      Device_Type: VT100         Owner: SYSTEM  B    Input:    9600     LFfill:  0      Width: 120      Parity: None0    Output:   9600     CRfill:  0      Page:   24   Terminal Characteristics: E    Interactive        Echo               Type_ahead         No Escape ?    Hostsync           TTsync             Lowercase          Tab G    Wrap               Scope              Remote             No Eightbit C    Broadcast          No Readsync        No Form            Fulldup B    No Modem           No Local_echo      No Autobaud        HangupE    No Brdcstmbx       No DMA             No Altypeahd       Set_speed G    No Commsync        Line Editing       Overstrike editing No Fallback F    No Dialup          No Secure server   No Disconnect      No PasthruF    No Syspassword     No SIXEL Graphics  No Soft Characters No Printer Port>    Numeric Keypad     ANSI_CRT           No Regis           No
 Block_modeG    Advanced_video     No Edit_mode       DEC_CRT            No DEC_CRT2 >    No DEC_CRT3        No DEC_CRT4        No DEC_CRT5        No
 Ansi_Color    VMS Style Input     Thanks,    David.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:40:20 +0100 ( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> Subject: Re: Backspace problem) Message-ID: <3BB042F4.47E80E3F@127.0.0.1>    David Romero wrote: J > I have some Vax and Alphastations to administrate, but not in my office.! > My computer runs UNIX, so i can  > connect with TELNET. > G > The problem is that backspace key moves de cursor to the beginning of ' > the line, instead of deleting de last + > character.  (I can do it with delete key)  >  > Anyone know how correct it ?  / Nothing (really) to do with the SHOW TERMINAL.    < It will be in the configuration setup of your TELNET client.  F You need to find a preference or setting that sets the key in question  to send either BACKSPACE or DEL.  ? Now, if your question relates to the behaviour under VMS of the G backspace, then it is correct. Backspace (CTRL/H) moves to beginning of F line. CTRL/E moves to end of line, navigation inside the line uses theF cursor keys left and right, and command recall navigation using up andG down. CTRL/J or linefeed is a 'word' delete, under the DCL CLI the word A has a number of entity values, but typically space or punctuation 
 delimited.  F You should find that CTRL/D will give you the effect of the backspace,2 CTRL/A will toggle the insert and overstrike mode.  G Most UNIXes understand what a VT220 is, so I'd be very surprised if a $ E SET TERM/DEV=VT200 and an appropriate TELNET client won't satisfy all  your needs.    Hope this helps  --  ( Regards, Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciences nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 05:14:52 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>  Subject: Re: Backspace problem, Message-ID: <3BB04B0C.754EB839@videotron.ca>   David Romero wrote: G > The problem is that backspace key moves de cursor to the beginning of ' > the line, instead of deleting de last + > character.  (I can do it with delete key)   N On VMS, you need to configure the backspace key to send the "delete" characterM (7f) instead of the control-h (08). Most decent terminal emulators or telnetr  are able to do this.  L Note that I have experienced instances where the backspace key stops workingN and acts as a ctrl-H (start of line), in which case, SET TERM/INQUIRE seems to fix it.    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 13:42:56 GMT ! From: Ian Parker <parker@gol.com>  Subject: Re: Backspace problem& Message-ID: <xom1TGAxoIs7Ewxx@gol.com>  3 In article <3BB042F4.47E80E3F@127.0.0.1>, Nic Clews  <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> writes  >David Romero wrote:K >> I have some Vax and Alphastations to administrate, but not in my office. " >> My computer runs UNIX, so i can >> connect with TELNET.  >>  H >> The problem is that backspace key moves de cursor to the beginning of( >> the line, instead of deleting de last, >> character.  (I can do it with delete key) >>   >> Anyone know how correct it ?  > 0 >Nothing (really) to do with the SHOW TERMINAL.  > = >It will be in the configuration setup of your TELNET client.  > G >You need to find a preference or setting that sets the key in question ! >to send either BACKSPACE or DEL.  > @ >Now, if your question relates to the behaviour under VMS of theH >backspace, then it is correct. Backspace (CTRL/H) moves to beginning ofG >line. CTRL/E moves to end of line, navigation inside the line uses the G >cursor keys left and right, and command recall navigation using up and H >down. CTRL/J or linefeed is a 'word' delete, under the DCL CLI the wordB >has a number of entity values, but typically space or punctuation >delimited.  > G >You should find that CTRL/D will give you the effect of the backspace, 3 >CTRL/A will toggle the insert and overstrike mode.  > H >Most UNIXes understand what a VT220 is, so I'd be very surprised if a $F >SET TERM/DEV=VT200 and an appropriate TELNET client won't satisfy all >your needs. >  >Hope this helps  H Of course you need to ensure that the UNIX system thinks you are using a9 vt100, e.g. setenv TERM vt100 or whatever is appropriate.    --  
 Ian Parker   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Sep 2001 07:45:42 -0500- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 4 Subject: Re: c$main undefined in hello-world program3 Message-ID: <$HsjcCxGzDat@eisner.encompasserve.org>   o In article <754a27c1.0109241323.5e0773f2@posting.google.com>, chris@applied-synergy.com (Chris Scheers) writes: l > 0vazan@st.fmph.uniba.sk (Bubak) wrote in message news:<87266f0d.0109240936.74701e6e@posting.google.com>...$ >> I get this error from "link test"6 >> LINK-W-USEUNDEF, undefined symbol C$MAIN referencedD >> Along with C$PRINTF undefined and message details. "cc test" went3 >> without errors. "test.c" is typical hello-world:  >> #include <stdio.h> 
 >> int main()  >> { >> printf("hello!\n"); >> return 0; >> } > H > Assuming you are compiling with VAX C (as opposed to DEC C, now Compaq9 > C, soon to be HP C?), you need to link against VAXCRTL.  >   0    IIRC there are no C$ prefixes in the VAXCRTL.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 07:53:34 -0400 - From: Michael Austin <firstdbasource@att.net>  Subject: FORTRAN terminal IO' Message-ID: <3BB0703D.CC55D295@att.net>   F I have a fortran program that is currently being used on a TXAx deviceG and I need to change this to a LAT port or direct file output.   I have D created a LAT port that behaves as expected when I 'REPLY' or copy aD file to the LAT port.  The code below opens the port for write.  Why( does this not work with a LTAxxx device.  C PA0 is defined as MG1 is defined as TXA0: - works, LTA600: does not 5 work., or "[somedir]somefile.xxx" also does not work.     #         LOGICAL*1 CLEARI,CLEARO,XON '         DATA CLEARI,CLEARO,XON/9,15,10/ F         OPEN(UNIT=4,NAME='PA0',TYPE='NEW')  !  This should open a port OR a file... Why not? H         WRITE(4,4500) CLEARI,CLEARO,XON         !  writing XON to a file should also not be a problem.  4500    FORMAT(1X,3A1)  . Any ideas as to why I am seeing this behavior?    B Fortran program has been vested and compiled native w/same results Compaq Fortran V7.4A-1588-46B4K  OpenVMS 7.2-1, 7.3   Michael Austin   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Sep 2001 07:35:27 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.org  Subject: Re: FORTRAN terminal IO3 Message-ID: <qHf32sq$JDao@eisner.encompasserve.org>   W In article <3BB0703D.CC55D295@att.net>, Michael Austin <firstdbasource@att.net> writes: H > I have a fortran program that is currently being used on a TXAx deviceI > and I need to change this to a LAT port or direct file output.   I have F > created a LAT port that behaves as expected when I 'REPLY' or copy aF > file to the LAT port.  The code below opens the port for write.  Why* > does this not work with a LTAxxx device. > E > PA0 is defined as MG1 is defined as TXA0: - works, LTA600: does not 7 > work., or "[somedir]somefile.xxx" also does not work.  >  > % >         LOGICAL*1 CLEARI,CLEARO,XON ) >         DATA CLEARI,CLEARO,XON/9,15,10/   = 9 is the code for horizontal tab (why do you call it CLEARI?)  15 is the code for control-O6 10 is the code for line feed (why do you call it XON?)  H >         OPEN(UNIT=4,NAME='PA0',TYPE='NEW')  !  This should open a port > OR a file... Why not?   B How does it fail?  Do you get an error message?  Do you get a file named PA0.DAT or MG1.DAT?   J >         WRITE(4,4500) CLEARI,CLEARO,XON         !  writing XON to a file > should also not be a problem.   E Does this line fail?  Do you get an error message?  Did you use LATCP @ to establish a default association between the LTAxxx device and& a particular terminal server and port?  0 > Any ideas as to why I am seeing this behavior?  I The code works fine for me.  I got "data set hangup" on the write because C I didn't go into LATCP and establish the default association.  That ' counts as a successful test in my book.    	John Briggs   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:41:39 -0400 - From: Michael Austin <firstdbasource@att.net>   Subject: Re: FORTRAN terminal IO' Message-ID: <3BB08993.9AA6EBAE@att.net>    briggs@encompasserve.org wrote:   Y > In article <3BB0703D.CC55D295@att.net>, Michael Austin <firstdbasource@att.net> writes: J > > I have a fortran program that is currently being used on a TXAx deviceK > > and I need to change this to a LAT port or direct file output.   I have H > > created a LAT port that behaves as expected when I 'REPLY' or copy aH > > file to the LAT port.  The code below opens the port for write.  Why, > > does this not work with a LTAxxx device. > > G > > PA0 is defined as MG1 is defined as TXA0: - works, LTA600: does not 9 > > work., or "[somedir]somefile.xxx" also does not work.  > >  > > ' > >         LOGICAL*1 CLEARI,CLEARO,XON + > >         DATA CLEARI,CLEARO,XON/9,15,10/   ? > 9 is the code for horizontal tab (why do you call it CLEARI?)  > 15 is the code for control-O8 > 10 is the code for line feed (why do you call it XON?)  [ I have no idea why they did anything the way they did it. I believe at one time, the serial P port was connected directly to a serial port on a plasma metal cutter. (OriginalW PDP11->>VAX/VMS5.1->> OpenVMS7.3(Alpha)  I am just trying to make it compile and/or run  VESTED on an Alpha.    > J > >         OPEN(UNIT=4,NAME='PA0',TYPE='NEW')  !  This should open a port > > OR a file... Why not?  > D > How does it fail?  Do you get an error message?  Do you get a file > named PA0.DAT or MG1.DAT?  >   / No files generated.  No error message. No Data.    > L > >         WRITE(4,4500) CLEARI,CLEARO,XON         !  writing XON to a file! > > should also not be a problem.  > 4 > Does this line fail?  Do you get an error message?  I Line does not fail when using OS tools.  "Copy login.com lta600: " works. % REPLY/TERM=LTA600: "HELLO"  ... works    > Did you use LATCP B > to establish a default association between the LTAxxx device and( > a particular terminal server and port?  5 The above would not work if this had not been done... ) mc latcp create port lta600: /application J mc latcp set port lta600 /node=mmsrv1/port=port_2 (port 2 is named port_2)  W Local> def port 2 name port_2 speed 9600 modem control disabled (uses XON/XOFF for flow  control) Local> lo port 2  Y Don't ask me why this was done, but, currently MG1->PA0->TXA0: is connected to the serial V port of a PC where MS-Kermit is put into CAPTURE mode pointing to a floppy.  Using theZ REPLy or COPY commands  responses are displayed/saved.  In trying to "migrate" this to theW Alpha, I am using a terminal server to serve the same purpose (for now).  This does not Z work on either the VAX (original code just new logical for device) or the Alpha (vested orY native compiled) The floppy is used to load this "file" into a plasma-cutter to cut metal  used in A/C ducts.   > 2 > > Any ideas as to why I am seeing this behavior? > K > The code works fine for me.  I got "data set hangup" on the write because E > I didn't go into LATCP and establish the default association.  That ) > counts as a successful test in my book.  >  >         John Briggs    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 15:53:30 +0200 2 From: "Ren Schelbaum" <rene.schelbaum@datakom.at>  Subject: Re: FORTRAN terminal IOG Message-ID: <3bb08b97$0$32344$5039e797@newsreader01.highway.telekom.at>   @ "Michael Austin" <firstdbasource@att.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag! news:3BB08993.9AA6EBAE@att.net...  >  > ! > briggs@encompasserve.org wrote:  > : > > In article <3BB0703D.CC55D295@att.net>, Michael Austin  <firstdbasource@att.net> writes:L > > > I have a fortran program that is currently being used on a TXAx deviceH > > > and I need to change this to a LAT port or direct file output.   I haveJ > > > created a LAT port that behaves as expected when I 'REPLY' or copy aJ > > > file to the LAT port.  The code below opens the port for write.  Why. > > > does this not work with a LTAxxx device. > > > I > > > PA0 is defined as MG1 is defined as TXA0: - works, LTA600: does not ; > > > work., or "[somedir]somefile.xxx" also does not work.  > > >  > > > ) > > >         LOGICAL*1 CLEARI,CLEARO,XON - > > >         DATA CLEARI,CLEARO,XON/9,15,10/  > A > > 9 is the code for horizontal tab (why do you call it CLEARI?)   > > 15 is the code for control-O: > > 10 is the code for line feed (why do you call it XON?) > L > I have no idea why they did anything the way they did it. I believe at one time, the serialH > port was connected directly to a serial port on a plasma metal cutter.	 (Original F > PDP11->>VAX/VMS5.1->> OpenVMS7.3(Alpha)  I am just trying to make it compile and/or run > VESTED on an Alpha.  >  > > L > > >         OPEN(UNIT=4,NAME='PA0',TYPE='NEW')  !  This should open a port > > > OR a file... Why not?  > > F > > How does it fail?  Do you get an error message?  Do you get a file > > named PA0.DAT or MG1.DAT?  > >  > 1 > No files generated.  No error message. No Data.  >  > > I > > >         WRITE(4,4500) CLEARI,CLEARO,XON         !  writing XON to a  file# > > > should also not be a problem.  > > 6 > > Does this line fail?  Do you get an error message? >TK > Line does not fail when using OS tools.  "Copy login.com lta600: " works. ' > REPLY/TERM=LTA600: "HELLO"  ... worksb >  > > Did you use LATCP D > > to establish a default association between the LTAxxx device and* > > a particular terminal server and port? >I7 > The above would not work if this had not been done...e+ > mc latcp create port lta600: /applicationAL > mc latcp set port lta600 /node=mmsrv1/port=port_2 (port 2 is named port_2) > G > Local> def port 2 name port_2 speed 9600 modem control disabled (usesi XON/XOFF for flowe
 > control) > Local> lo port 2 >WC > Don't ask me why this was done, but, currently MG1->PA0->TXA0: isy connected to the serial E > port of a PC where MS-Kermit is put into CAPTURE mode pointing to a  floppy.  Using theF > REPLy or COPY commands  responses are displayed/saved.  In trying to "migrate" this to the J > Alpha, I am using a terminal server to serve the same purpose (for now).
 This does notbK > work on either the VAX (original code just new logical for device) or the  Alpha (vested or@ > native compiled) The floppy is used to load this "file" into a plasma-cutter to cut metal > used in A/C ducts. >i > >.4 > > > Any ideas as to why I am seeing this behavior? > >eE > > The code works fine for me.  I got "data set hangup" on the writef because G > > I didn't go into LATCP and establish the default association.  Thatf+ > > counts as a successful test in my book.- > >- > >         John Briggs- >  >e  D Don't forget to set the port 'PRINTER' or 'ACCESS REMOTE' or similarF (dependent on the type of terminal server you use)  in the port-setup.   regards    Ren Schelbaum   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:22:23 +0100s3 From: Adrian Birkett <abirkett@unnecessary.csc.com> ; Subject: Re: HOW DO I change FAB file attributes in C code?h3 Message-ID: <3BB05ADE.F7C305FF@unnecessary.csc.com>c   Mark,w  E I have never done this myself but you may want to look at the FAB and B RAB structures in the RMS header file. In theory, you can define aH structure (or series of structures) and reference them accordingly. I'll' see if I can find an example somewhere.    Adee   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:29:04 +0100a3 From: Adrian Birkett <abirkett@unnecessary.csc.com> ; Subject: Re: HOW DO I change FAB file attributes in C code? 3 Message-ID: <3BB05C70.242D70EA@unnecessary.csc.com>d  D I whipped this up a few months ago as a records counter, but it will serve as an example.   Ade    /*
     RECS.C  E     This program is an example of how to use RMS system service calls_E     to OPEN, READ and CLOSE any file on a VMS system. The records areFC     read sequentially and a summary report line of record count and 2     minimum and maximum record sizes is displayed. */   #include    <stdio.h>r #include    <rms.h>y #include    <starlet.h>  #include    <ssdef.h>        int     status;_   void main()i {o4     char        filename[30], inrec[10000], bit[21];F     int         rec_count=0, exit=0, loopexit=0, maxsize=0, minsize=0;     FILE        *infile;       struct  FAB infile_fab;-     struct  RAB infile_rab;e       do     {0'         printf("\n Enter File Name: ");.         scanf("%s",&filename);            infile_fab = cc$rms_fab;)         infile_fab.fab$l_fna = &filename;a0         infile_fab.fab$b_fns = strlen(filename);)         infile_fab.fab$b_fac = FAB$M_GET;,B         infile_fab.fab$b_shr = FAB$M_GET | FAB$M_PUT | FAB$M_DEL |
 FAB$M_UPD;  '         status = sys$open(&infile_fab);e  '         if ((status & SS$_NORMAL) != 1).	         {              perror ("Open");             sys$exit(status);o	         }l            infile_rab = cc$rms_rab;+         infile_rab.rab$l_fab = &infile_fab;u&         infile_rab.rab$l_ubf = &inrec;-         infile_rab.rab$w_usz = sizeof(inrec);i  *         status = sys$connect(&infile_rab);  '         if ((status & SS$_NORMAL) != 1)d	         {h             perror ("Connect");.             sys$exit(status);g	         }          rec_count = 0;  &         status = sys$get(&infile_rab);'         if ((status & SS$_NORMAL) != 1)m	         {n             perror ("1st Get");L             sys$exit(status);t	         }e         rec_count = 0;           loopexit = 0;,  '         maxsize = infile_rab.rab$w_rsz;i'         minsize = infile_rab.rab$w_rsz;g           while (loopexit == 0)c	         {w&             rec_count = rec_count + 1;9             if (infile_rab.rab$w_rsz < minsize) minsize =y infile_rab.rab$w_rsz; 9             if (infile_rab.rab$w_rsz > maxsize) maxsize =f infile_rab.rab$w_rsz; *             status = sys$get(&infile_rab);'             if (!(status & SS$_NORMAL))o                 loopexit = 1;-	         }e(         status = sys$close(&infile_fab);(         if ((status && SS$_NORMAL) != 1)	         {:             perror ("Close");              sys$exit(status);>	         }o  -         printf(" Record Count:%d, MaxSize:%d, ' MinSize:%d",rec_count,maxsize,minsize);h       } while (exit == 0); }l   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:05:37 +0100o7 From: "POWERS, John" <John.POWERS@reading.sema.slb.com> ; Subject: RE: How do I send an attachment with OpenVMS mail?a= Message-ID: <D30A62ABC710D211AEE100A0C9D615EE0152907A@REAES2>r  < From: goathunter@goatley.com [mailto:goathunter@goatley.com] > J >On Mon, 24 Sep 2001 20:36:06 +0200, Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= ><noone@home.com> wrote: >-; >>No, you didn't do anything "wrong". It just doesn't work.r; >>You can *not* use $ MAIL> SEND/FOREIGN to a non-VMS user.D< >>Only between two VMS systems. I you read the earlier posts2 >>on this subject, this should be perfectly clear. >>7 >Slight clarification: you can do it if you use /TYPE=1o; >with MultiNet, TCPware, and MX.  /TYPE=1 creates a genericn< >MIME-encoding most PC programs will accept.  However, it is8 >true that the message is the encoded file---it's not an >attachment, per se. >o@ >And some PC readers will decode the VMS-specific encoding, too.  A You can achieve the same effect on the bog-standard UCX software,i? through a 3-stage procedure, which I use frequently here, sincep= Microsoft Outlook is our company standard that we all have to - use The trick is to pre-encode it yourself - d 1. encode the document. 0 2. append the encoded file to the email message.' 3. email the extended message /foreign.   7 e.g. to send MYFILE.ZIP to my non-VMS outlook account...   $ type message.txt- Here is a text message to which I will attachc a document for emailing. - John' $ mc ucx$uuencode myfile.zip myfile.uuew $ append myfile.uue message.txt G $ mail /for /sub="Test email" message.txt SMTP%"john.powers@sema.co.uk"y    @ When this arrives at Outlook it looks just like another of piece@ of bloatware email with a filing cabinet in a clamp which winzip' will look at if you double click on it.     -- Cheers, John  F  - Note  This message represents my opinions and nothing else, not theI   opinion of SEMA, my family, or the cricket club - though my dog Meg didpE   nod in agreement whilst I was typing. If you have any problems thensD   please complain to her (or me, but not SEMA, my family or the CC).    K ___________________________________________________________________________ B This email is confidential and intended solely for the use of the H individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions presented are E solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of 2 SchlumbergerSema. M If you are not the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this I email in error and that any use, dissemination, forwarding, printing, or c- copying of this email is strictly prohibited.>  z If you have received this email in error please notify the SchlumbergerSema Helpdesk by telephone on +44 (0) 121 627 5600.K ___________________________________________________________________________>   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Sep 2001 07:21:52 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.org; Subject: RE: How do I send an attachment with OpenVMS mail?)3 Message-ID: <3glLU5+TWhVY@eisner.encompasserve.org>h  w In article <D30A62ABC710D211AEE100A0C9D615EE0152907A@REAES2>, "POWERS, John" <John.POWERS@reading.sema.slb.com> writes:iC > You can achieve the same effect on the bog-standard UCX software, A > through a 3-stage procedure, which I use frequently here, sincem? > Microsoft Outlook is our company standard that we all have ton ...i) > $ mc ucx$uuencode myfile.zip myfile.uueh! > $ append myfile.uue message.txteI > $ mail /for /sub="Test email" message.txt SMTP%"john.powers@sema.co.uk"o  E Ahhh.  uuencode.  Yup.  That was the de facto standard for attachment.E encoding some years back.  I haven't seen many mail packages using it D for transmission in about 3-4 years now.  But most of them are still pretty good about accepting it.   @ Strictly speaking, there's supposed to be an Encoding: header on7 such e-mails (RFC 1154) that calls out the line numbersy? on which each attachment begins and the encoding technique usedgA for that attachment.  In practice, most sending mail systems justAA plopped uuencoded attachments willy nilly in the message body andrA most receiving mail systems just scanned the message body for therA "begin <umask> <filename>" that appears at the top of a uuencoded- file.-  E This makes it easy to create an "attachment" using uuencode.  No needm% for headers.  Just plop it in and go.i   	John Briggs   ------------------------------   Date: 25 Sep 2001 14:37:10 GMT! From: Mark Hatch <mhatch@ics.com><J Subject: motifzone.net - the site for Open Motif Developers (monthly post)' Message-ID: <3BB09692.662221AE@ics.com>e  D The Motif Zone (http://www.motifzone.net) is the center of a growingH community of open source developers dedicated to the ongoing developmentG and maintenance of Open Motif. In the last 12 months, the MotifZone hasiB hosted over 500,000 downloads of Open Motif and processed over 30+G Million website hits. With over 4,000 registered members, the MotifZonexE provides an unique site that combines the talents of mission critical > application developers with the innovations of the open source
 community.  A The latest binaries and sources of Open Motif, as well as relatediB software, are hosted at the MotifZone and are freely available forE downloads. An anonymous CVS tree is also provided to those that would.D like to enhance or just learn more about the GUI toolkit that is theH industry standard on UNIX workstations. In addition, the MotifZone hosts3 the official Open Motif defect tracking system too.d  E A number of community efforts are underway at the MotifZone to extends  and improve Motif. Specifically: - Embedded Open Motifi - Themes for OpenMotifH - Autoconfigure building of sources (for those preferring an alternative	 to imake) 
 - Tooltips  H For developers looking to program using the Motif toolkit, the MotifZone@ offers the Internet's largest collection of reference materials,E tutorials, technical articles and formal documentation on X and Motif-H programming. Hundred's of links are provided to both commercial and open( source tools that can speed development.  A The Open Help Forums provides a selection of channels for postingaG questions and receiving help from your peers. The signal-to-noise ratio5G of these channels is high with questions typically being "on-topic" andaE none of the usual "get rich quick" scams seen on the comp.x.windows.* ? newsgroups. The use of nicknames for identification provides anIH effective barrier to spammers that comb the newsgroups looking for email
 addresses.  H And of course, the MotifZone provides the usual collection of feeds fromC sites like Freshmeat, Slashdot and Linux Today so that you can stayG. current with the latest changes in technology.  < The Motif Zone is sponsored by Integrated Computer SolutionsD (http://www.ics.com), providers of GUI development tools for X/Motif developers.X  E ICS will offer its next public training on Motif and X programming inEF Los Angeles, California, October 15-19. Send email to training@ics.com for details.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 07:43:17 -0500e+ From: Phil Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>e- Subject: Re: New..Wiring in terminals...help?lH Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.20.0109250739200.12997-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>  ( On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Duncan Brown wrote:  H > When you ask about configuration, if you mean DEC VT-series terminals,4 > then just press the F2 key and follow the menus.    J On my VT-320 and VT-220 it's F3.  I think it's the same on the 100 I don't
 have anymore.T  F > If it's an LA120, press the setup key and hope the little crib sheet > plate is still on the front!  4 And if it's an LA34 (DECwriter IV) it's CTRL-Setup.    -- p< I liked HP before computers, and at one time I liked Compaq,7 but I liked DEC better than HP and Compaq put together.g   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:35:54 +0530o$ From: "upadhyaya" <ups@hotvoice.com>& Subject: OT: VMS DECnet and X Emulator1 Message-ID: <20Wr7.582$YP.20374@news.cpqcorp.net>    Hi,oK   I am using DECNet to connect to a VMS machine using an X Window Emulator.lG The emulator's log file says "information OK". but I am not able to getmK DECTerm. Other applications (eg., clock) are displayed without any problem. G I checked sys$login:net$server.log. The error displayed are as follows.t    
 $ Set NoOn/ $ VERIFY = F$VERIFY(F$TRNLNM("SYLOGIN_VERIFY"))s  @         --------------------------------------------------------  ;         Connect request received at 25-SEP-2001 04:24:52.89r3             from remote process 13440::"0=_PC_3000"e2             for object "sys$system:pcx$server.com"  @         --------------------------------------------------------         Device:    WSA9:  [super]c     Node:      13440     Transport: DECNETT     Server:    0     Screen:    0  3 PCX$SERVER_MSG: Starting the following application:. create/term/detachA %IPC-E-BCKTRNSFAIL, failure on the back translate address requestoC %DCL-W-UNDFIL, file has not been opened by DCL - check logical namen  * What would be the reason for this problem?   Thanks, 	 Upadhyaya    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:20:54 +0100-( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>& Subject: Re: Pointy-Haired-manager toy) Message-ID: <3BB03E66.AA05EDB9@127.0.0.1>R   JF Mezei wrote:e > K > The presentations from Hoff contains text that makes reader ask about thel > pointy-haired-manager toy. > 5 > So, what is that pointy-haired-manager toy ????????.   http://www.dilbert.com/a  8 Find the merchandise section, a snip at twice the price.C (In this context I think you'll find they are called 'pointy hairede boss')   -- r( Regards, Nic Clews CSC Computer Sciences nclews at csc dot comd   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 08:56:15 +0100e* From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>1 Subject: Re: Time To Publicize VMSClusters At WTCe, Message-ID: <9opdb1$10kq@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>  X "Jerry Leslie" <leslie@clio.rice.edu> wrote in message news:9oo6fd$4a5$1@joe.rice.edu...I > If Microsoft can advertise their "cluster" technology using pictures ofxI > toppling tall buildings, perhaps HP/Compaq should also be as tasteless,RF > and MARKET multisite VMSClusters as a way to survive such disasters:  E To be fair to Microsoft, the campaign was no doubt booked long ago. IeD noticed the unfortunate advert in a (print) computer magazine on the Wednesday (12th September).y   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 07:36:39 -0500 + From: Phil Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>t1 Subject: Re: Time To Publicize VMSClusters At WTCAH Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.20.0109250735340.12997-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>  * On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Richard Brodie wrote:   > Z > "Jerry Leslie" <leslie@clio.rice.edu> wrote in message news:9oo6fd$4a5$1@joe.rice.edu...K > > If Microsoft can advertise their "cluster" technology using pictures ofiK > > toppling tall buildings, perhaps HP/Compaq should also be as tasteless, H > > and MARKET multisite VMSClusters as a way to survive such disasters: >  > To be fair to Microsoft, i  : Now why on earth would anyone feel the need to do _that_?    -- i< I liked HP before computers, and at one time I liked Compaq,7 but I liked DEC better than HP and Compaq put together.E   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:50:03 -0400t* From: WILLIAM WEBB <WWEBB1@email.usps.gov>1 Subject: RE: Time To Publicize VMSClusters At WTCd- Message-ID: <0033000036291128000002L082*@MHS>h  D =0AOne would think that Microsoft's so-called "clustering" solutionsH would make it possible to bluescreen in multiple locations simultaneous= ly.    WWWebb   > -----Original Message-----1 > From: Info-VAX-Request@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNET + > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:50 AM D > To: Webb, William W Raleigh, NC; Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNET3 > Subject: RE: Time To Publicize VMSClusters At WTCn >C >U, > On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, Richard Brodie wrote: >L > >C: > > "Jerry Leslie" <leslie@clio.rice.edu> wrote in message8 > news:9oo6fd$4a5$1@joe.rice.edu... > > If Microsoft can > advertise their "cluster"  > technology using pictures of? > > > toppling tall buildings, perhaps HP/Compaq should also beo > as tasteless,s? > > > and MARKET multisite VMSClusters as a way to survive such  > disasters: > >e > > To be fair to Microsoft, >t; > Now why on earth would anyone feel the need to do _that_?v >? > --> > I liked HP before computers, and at one time I liked Compaq,9 > but I liked DEC better than HP and Compaq put together.h >=   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:10:33 -0500 1 From: "Dave Gudewicz" <david.gudewicz@abbott.com>g( Subject: VAX 7000 hw support going away?8 Message-ID: <9oq6ot$kpc$1@fizban.fizban.pprd.abbott.com>  I Wondered if anyone here has received news that their hw service contracts-; for VAX 7000 will not be renewed after current ones expire.r  G We have 2 such systems, one contract expires at the end of 2001 and theh other in 2002.  C We were "told" that yesterday.  I haven't seen anything in writing.m  / I'm wondering if this was some sort of mistake.o   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:07:08 -0400I- From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca>s# Subject: Re: VAX disaster tolerancec2 Message-ID: <K41s7.31637$Z2.451663@nnrp1.uunet.ca>  = > "Fabio Cardoso" <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in messagee; > news:20010924125601.2352.qmail@web20206.mail.yahoo.com...s >..." > Why people still using PDPs ???? >...  I Because they work. They worked yesterday, they work today, they will workc	 tomorrow.h   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 11:27:30 +0100a, From: "Bob Knowles" <bob.knowles@compaq.com>0 Subject: Re: VAX DOCUMENT! Off Topic but On Tool1 Message-ID: <Q_Yr7.588$YP.20371@news.cpqcorp.net>e  5 Answered my own question - it was in DOC$LOCAL_TOOLS.    b   7 "Bob Knowles" <bob.knowles@compaq.com> wrote in messagea+ news:pwCr7.520$YP.18196@news.cpqcorp.net...uL > Does anyone have a pointer to a command procedure called PRETTY.COM, whichH > reformats SDML in standard ways (the standard is its own, but at least it'sI > consistent)? It's not on the freeware CD; maybe it was just an internal= > tool.e >  > Thanks >  > bE > K > ps - As many replies have implied, but none has said explicitly, the name F > 'VAX DOCUMENT' applied only to V2.1 and earlier. The current name is > 'DECdocument'. >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 08:31:11 +0100 * From: Andrew Robinson <arobinson@hspg.com>1 Subject: RE: VAX-Alpha Migration: COBOL/BASIC/FMS M Message-ID: <CDA4BAD1E10ED41181AC00508B6051D3C3E3DC@grumpy.internal.hspg.com>    <snip>  F WE MIGRATED VAX DIBOL TO ALPHA SYNERGY DIBOL AND HAD ZERO PROBLEMS ...3 WAS EVEN EASIER THAN MOVING PDP DIBOL TO VAX DIBOL!y RMS IS RMS ...  7 We've had a problem, but it may be related to our code.nG If we are in the middle of a routine and we receive a broadcast message;L (email arrival etc.) the process then doesn't end, but goes into a cpu loop.J You have to do a CTRL Y to abort the process. This behaviour only appeared@ after the port. Has anyone else had this and is it an easy fix ?   Regards    Andrew Robinson;   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:54:12 +0100L+ From: "Tim Jackson" <tim.jackson@amsjv.com>t" Subject: Re: We are back from CETS& Message-ID: <3bb06de2$1@pull.gecm.com>   Keith,  ) Tried to access your site but it reports:r  , Sorry, this site is temporarily unavailable!E The web site you are trying to access has exceeded its allocated data_3 transfer. Visit our help area for more information.b    TIA for putting the material up.D ------------------ Purely Personal Opinion -------------------------D Tim Jackson                                    tim.jackson@amsjv.com Air Systems Groupf Alenia Marconi Systems Ltd.   > "Keith Parris" <keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message7 news:cf15391e.0109241236.70df39d8@posting.google.com...)0 > My materials from CETS2001 may all be found at' > http://www.geocities.com/keithparris/  > * > Seminar: VMS Clusters: Advanced Concepts >S@ > Interactive Workshop: Network Monitoring for LAVCs (how to use > LAVC$FAILURE_ANALYSIS) >-G > Session: Riding the Dot-Com Wave: A Case Study in Extreme VMS Clustero
 > ScalabilitynE > ------------------------------------------------------------------- E > Keith Parris | parris at encompasserve dot org | VMS consulting on: E > Clusters, Disaster Tolerance, Internals, Performance, Storage & I/O    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 06:23:03 GMT<# From: Kevin Waugh <waugh@met.co.nz> / Subject: Re: Whose Running The Oldest Software?r. Message-ID: <20010925.6230394@waugh.met.co.nz>  H VAX/VMS V5.4-3  on node METRAD  25-SEP-2001 06:23:00.60   Uptime  81=20=   06:55:43  6 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<  I On 24/09/2001, 22:35:59, Jonathan McCormack <McCormackJ@BelfastCity.Gov.=. UK>=204 wrote regarding Whose Running The Oldest Software? :    I > We had a full systems shutdown over the weekend to get some electrical=  =20nI work done on the Server floor.  While shutting down our systems we came =i  
 across an old I > VaxStation 4000 VLC that we had forgotten about.  It is used basically=g  to=204 run and compile some legacy software that we supply.   > It is running....c   > VMS V5.5-1 > CMU IP V6.6-5t > DCPS V1.0r > COBOL V5.2 > PATHWORKS V4.2-1  B > All old stuff, but it was up for 482 days and does the job well.  3 > So, is anybody running older software than me? :).   > Jonathan McCormack5 > Educational Bodies Senior Technical Support Analyste > Belfast City Council ISB# > http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/isbl   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:26:42 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>a/ Subject: Re: Whose Running The Oldest Software? 8 Message-ID: <l9f0rtsrk6gtn6ejf3rgkkmhduf9i2shhi@4ax.com>  < On 24 Sep 2001 16:40:53 GMT, bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) wrote:     > E >My oldest system in regular use here is running Ultrix-11 and if youeD >count making binaries of Kermit as production, then it's still in a >production environment.  :-)h >hC >My oldest VMS is MicroVMS-4.5, but it's not up all the time but it 8 >has been run off-and-on since I came here 15 years ago. >S; >    [I have older machines, but I would not consider them _= >     "production".  Of course, this begs the question is anyo( >     academic use really "production"?]  E For non production use how about TOPS-20 V4.1 (latest version currentnD emulators boot) from around 1980. Even updated software releases for5 it of Kermit for the operating system it was born on.n   From the kermit news:   D 06 Aug 2001:   DECSYSTEM-20 Kermit 5.1(264) (faster packet reading)   E 29 Apr 2001:   20th Anniversary of the first Kermit file transfer (onb	 a DEC-20)f  uB 28 Jan 2001:   DECSYSTEM-20 Kermit 5.1(263) adds long packets (The first new release in 13 years) )  16 Now anyone working on a GEM backend for the PDP-10? :) -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 13:04:54 +01000+ From: "Tim Jackson" <tim.jackson@amsjv.com>o/ Subject: Re: Whose Running The Oldest Software? & Message-ID: <3bb07063$1@pull.gecm.com>  B VAX/VMS V4.6  on node ****** 25-SEP-2001 12:58:48.16   Uptime   20 20:42:03  D ------------------ Purely Personal Opinion -------------------------D Tim Jackson                                    tim.jackson@amsjv.com Air Systems Groupg Alenia Marconi Systems Ltd.u  E "Jonathan McCormack" <McCormackJ@BelfastCity.Gov.UK> wrote in messagel news:1103_1001327759@itgs17...H > We had a full systems shutdown over the weekend to get some electricalG work done on the Server floor.  While shutting down our systems we cameh
 across an olduH > VaxStation 4000 VLC that we had forgotten about.  It is used basically7 to run and compile some legacy software that we supply.n >s > It is running....r >o > VMS V5.5-1 > CMU IP V6.6-5  > DCPS V1.0b > COBOL V5.2 > PATHWORKS V4.2-1 >nB > All old stuff, but it was up for 482 days and does the job well. >43 > So, is anybody running older software than me? :)a >e > Jonathan McCormack5 > Educational Bodies Senior Technical Support Analyst, > Belfast City Council ISB# > http://www.belfastcity.gov.uk/isbi >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 12:50:05 +0100e& From: ChrisQ <lightwork@aerosys.co.uk> Subject: Re: World Trade Centerp- Message-ID: <3BB06F6C.AEBDA9C3@aerosys.co.uk>t   Randall Burlew wrote:u >  > B > I was not really trying to vilify Bill Clinton. Perhaps I used a< > poor choice of words. The context was that I was trying to< > make the point that in regards to foreign policy we do not: > really have much of a choice between the Republicans and7 > Democrats. I thought Bill Clinton was a good example,oA > especially in light of the fact that Bill Todd had earlier made = > so much of the sanctions on Iraq, and Clinton's policies in < > regard to that were exactly the same as the elder Bush and > the younger Bush.e > A > And no, I'm not perfect. If I were perfect I would have managedt( > to stay out of these discussions.   :) >   M I should know better as well, but looking back, have been in a state of shockaM and denial since that terrible event, feeling guilt, anger and sadness all at N the same time. Just at a point where it seemed like some of the major problemsN in the world are being addressed with serious intent, we get this and it seemsP like we are again back to square one, as though the human race will never learn.P Got really wound up initially about the rhetoric coming from the US, but realiseO now that that was for domestic consumption. What else could GB say while tryingdK to steady the nation and buy time to find a solution to the unsolveable, atnO least in the short term ?. If the aim of the terrorists was to draw the US into O a snap response, nuke afghansitan, whatever, then they have failed dismally. In O that, the restraint shown by your government is just the sort of "leadership byt4 example" that the world could do with a lot more of.  O As for government, we have (suffer ?) more or less the same here in the UK. The K party may change, but the unelected machinery of government (civil service)pM stays the same and has considerable influence on the government of the day.      Chris    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 07:49:18 -0500 + From: Phil Mendelsohn <mend0070@tc.umn.edu>h Subject: Re: World Trade CentergH Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.20.0109250745380.12997-100000@garnet.tc.umn.edu>  $ On Tue, 25 Sep 2001, JF Mezei wrote:  G > Bill Clinton tried multiple times to get Bin laden. At one point, thetL > intellingence seemed sure enouh of his location that they send some cruiseO > missiles, but they missed. Clinton has since admitted that they also tried toaC > covertly kill him (even though doing so would have been illegal).   I If I understand correctly, the law you mention refers to killing heads ofsH state, and Bin Laden is not protected under that law.  As to morality, I don't want to step in that one.n  / > He also seized some of his assets in the USA.   J My understanding is that he authorized the aforementioned seizure, but was= disappointed to find that Bin Laden had no assets in the U.S.0  M > A sufficient proportion of those actions are covert that the public doesn'twN > really know what goes on, so it is hard to objectively judge  the current or > previous administrations.n  2 Hell, it's hard enough to do that 100 years later.   -- t< I liked HP before computers, and at one time I liked Compaq,7 but I liked DEC better than HP and Compaq put together.3   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:27:01 -0400o' From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@foo.mv.com>u Subject: Re: World Trade Centere( Message-ID: <9oq0kc$r81$1@pyrite.mv.net>  3 "ChrisQ" <lightwork@aerosys.co.uk> wrote in messagep' news:3BB06F6C.AEBDA9C3@aerosys.co.uk...    ...l  J > Got really wound up initially about the rhetoric coming from the US, but realise-- > now that that was for domestic consumption.5  L While that's undoubtedly true, there's still a very real possibility that he means what he says.   I But even leaving that aside, it's already been sufficiently disturbing totJ frighten millions of Afghans to the point that something like a million ofI them, ranging from very young to very old, have taken off for the borderseJ (which they may or may not know are nominally closed) with only that whichE they can carry or, for the more fortunate ones, stuff into a vehicle.=  G Afghanistan has some pretty rough country.  If 'only' a bit under 1% of-F those people die as a result of our rhetoric, it will have killed moreK innocent people than were killed two weeks ago - before we've actively done 
 a damn thing.   K And, of course, fanning the flames domestically has contributed to creating-J an environment in which U.S. Arabs now live in fear, a growing number haveJ actually had their persons, businesses, and/or places of worship attacked,L and at least two, including one person (a Sikh) who just *looked* a bit like an Arab, have been killed.  G Dubya's 'domestic rhetoric' (and that of his Cold Warrior re-treads) is-< morally reprehensible and possibly criminally irresponsible.  $  What else could GB say while tryingJ > to steady the nation and buy time to find a solution to the unsolveable, at > least in the short term ?u  L He could make our resolve to catch and deal with those responsible every bitL as clear without  a) revving up our military (and civilian) expectations forK a major land war,  b) capitalizing upon the attack as an excuse to push fortI significant curtailments of our civil liberties (no, I'm not talking justeB about things like increased airport security) that 'law-and-order'J conservatives have been after for a very long time,  c) bullying the otherK countries of the world (including our friends) with "You're either with us,-J or with the terrorists" drivel in an attempt to obtain support for his ownG excessive demands, and  d) specifically bullying the Taliban governmenteK (which we don't even deign to recognize) with 'non-negotiable' demands that.K he says we won't even *discuss* in what is essentially a criminal, though acH very major criminal, matter where the proper procedures for dealing with? other nations are clearly laid out (and mechanisms for buildingnI international coalitions to address nations which fail to respond to such L procedures are also well-understood).  Just to name a few things off the top of my head.d  5  If the aim of the terrorists was to draw the US intotD > a snap response, nuke afghansitan, whatever, then they have failed dismally. InB > that, the restraint shown by your government is just the sort of "leadership by6 > example" that the world could do with a lot more of.  I I suggest that the use of the word 'restraint' to dignify mere failure to L lash out immediately and blindly stretches its definition severely, and thatJ praise merely for not doing so (yet) is hardly merited (unless lashing out3 blindly is what you'd normally expect of the U.S.).i  K The motives likely behind your attempt at reconciliation here are laudable,VG but I believe you've confused an understanding of the personal feelingssF generated by the attack with the behavior a responsible country should exhibit.   - bill   ------------------------------   Date: 25 Sep 2001 14:32:18 GMT! From: Mark Hatch <mhatch@ics.com>EN Subject: www.motifzone.net - the site for Open Motif Developers (monthly post)' Message-ID: <3BB0956D.AEC1B6B2@ics.com>   D The Motif Zone (http://www.motifzone.net) is the center of a growingH community of open source developers dedicated to the ongoing developmentG and maintenance of Open Motif. In the last 12 months, the MotifZone haseB hosted over 500,000 downloads of Open Motif and processed over 30+G Million website hits. With over 4,000 registered members, the MotifZone,E provides an unique site that combines the talents of mission criticalA> application developers with the innovations of the open source
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 - Tooltips  H For developers looking to program using the Motif toolkit, the MotifZone@ offers the Internet's largest collection of reference materials,E tutorials, technical articles and formal documentation on X and Motif.H programming. Hundred's of links are provided to both commercial and open( source tools that can speed development.  A The Open Help Forums provides a selection of channels for postingeG questions and receiving help from your peers. The signal-to-noise ratio G of these channels is high with questions typically being "on-topic" and E none of the usual "get rich quick" scams seen on the comp.x.windows.*u? newsgroups. The use of nicknames for identification provides anrH effective barrier to spammers that comb the newsgroups looking for email
 addresses.  H And of course, the MotifZone provides the usual collection of feeds fromC sites like Freshmeat, Slashdot and Linux Today so that you can stay . current with the latest changes in technology.  < The Motif Zone is sponsored by Integrated Computer SolutionsD (http://www.ics.com), providers of GUI development tools for X/Motif developers.1  E ICS will offer its next public training on Motif and X programming inRF Los Angeles, California, October 15-19. Send email to training@ics.com for details.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 09:58:47 +0100b% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>e9 Subject: Re: [jfc] Seen in one of my older crash dumps... 8 Message-ID: <lsg0rtg535c5qa53uqh0ihu5dkci9aj4j2@4ax.com>  C On 25 Sep 2001 01:44:02 +0200, eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER)i wrote:  9 >This one I've just seen in one of my (older) crash dumpsD >a5 >  Time of system crash: 24-MAY-**** 18:15:48.99<NUL> 2 >  VMScluster node: MARS, a AlphaServer 2100 5/250I >  CPU 00 reason for Bugcheck: LOCKMGRERR, Error detected by Lock Manager 2 >  Process currently executing on this CPU:   NoneK >  Abs time of last event   00000000    BUFIO byte count/limit          0/00 >  >Note the date.b >o
 >just curiousp >o >-Peterc >RM >PS: this was a crash of my bootserver forced by a fast ethernet switch going8M >nuts. I was quite surprised to see not only the satellites go to the nirvanaA( >but also this (FDDI based) AlphaServer.  D There is at least one recommended work-around for lockmgrerr crashesB which can be triggered by network problems. You need to set a highF min_lockidtbl value to prevent a dynamic  increase. Addressed in a DSNE article somewhere. No fix available as of the time I last checked but.@ this workaround did prevent the problem occurring again for us.   & Don't know what to say about the date.   -- Alan   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Sep 2001 07:50:53 -07001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris)19 Subject: Re: [jfc] Seen in one of my older crash dumps...j< Message-ID: <cf15391e.0109250650.5f13f3c@posting.google.com>  \ eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) wrote in message news:<3bafc542$1@news.kapsch.co.at>...: > This one I've just seen in one of my (older) crash dumps > 6 >   Time of system crash: 24-MAY-**** 18:15:48.99<NUL>  E Apparently the time quadword contains bogus data, which resulted in a-A year value that is greater than 9999 and cannot be displayed in a  4-digit field.  3 >   VMScluster node: MARS, a AlphaServer 2100 5/250rJ >   CPU 00 reason for Bugcheck: LOCKMGRERR, Error detected by Lock Manager  B LOCKMGRERR (and the similar CNXMGRERR) are triggered when the LockA Manager (or Connection Manager, respectively) code is decoding antF incoming packet and finds garbage in a field in the packet.  In such a) case, there are several potential causes:eC 1) Bugs in the VMS code on the other end which assembled the packet D (this is the least likely cause nowadays, since the checks have been( in place in the code for many years now)F 2) Corruption of the packet on the source node after it was assembled,@ but before it was sent (perhaps by a memory hardware problem, or? errant code overwriting the packet as it sat in non-paged pool)-C 3) Corruption of the data as it passed across the LAN.  Despite CRC E technology, parity or ECC memory within LAN adapters and bridges, andoC so forth, hardware problems or firmware errors sometimes cause data5A corruption that is not detected as a CRC error (or sometimes poor6C bridge design re-calculates a new CRC for internally-corrupted datan* when it is transmitted out the other side)@ 4) Corruption of the packet on the target node after it has beenF received, but before it is examined, again either by a memory hardwareC problem or by errant code trampling over it as it sits in non-paged. pool  B #3 seems to be the most common cause in practice, and probably the< cause in your case, since you had a bridge acting strangely.  C This data validation code and the resultant bugchecks were put intoiE the code by the maintainer of the lock manager and connection manager @ because he got sick and tired of seeing bugs in new interconnectD hardware designs causing odd cluster problems that his code ended upC getting blamed for.  The intent of these bugchecks is to notify youeA that undetected data corruption has apparently occured within SCSbB packets, a condition that could be quite dangerous to your data if uncorrected.  C Originally, it was only the receiving node which detected the errorWF and which went down with a bugcheck.  Because some of the problems can? be caused on the source end rather than the receiving end (e.g.eB corruption of the packet in memory on the source node), there wereC some cases where a corrupted packet might be sent to multiple nodesaD (consider a corrupted lock request packet that gets sent to the lock@ master node, crashes that, and then gets re-sent to the new lockC master node elected after the first node leaves the cluster; I onceeC had 9 nodes of a 16-node cluster of 8400s crash one right after thehF other due to this problem), I'm told VMS in recent versions now causesC a simultaneous bugcheck on both the receiving and sending nodes, toa> localize the damage and minimize the potential number of nodes affected by a bugcheck.dC -------------------------------------------------------------------bC Keith Parris | parris at encompasserve dot org | VMS consulting on:mC Clusters, Disaster Tolerance, Internals, Performance, Storage & I/Or   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Sep 2001 05:52:11 -0700, From: kuzishchin@mail.ru (Kirill Kuzishchin)G Subject: Re: [VMScluster] Cross Architecture Boot with Cluster_Config ?E= Message-ID: <44ef2912.0109250452.243b9353@posting.google.com>-  \ eplan@kapsch.net (Peter LANGSTOEGER) wrote in message news:<3bafcd72$1@news.kapsch.co.at>...e > In article <OXX4KKbqGEaC@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:4O > >> And why did the OpenVMS VAX V7.3 CLUSTER_CONFIG.COM I just ran today (just-R > >> another unsuccessful test) only offer to ADD a VAX (not an Alpha) satellite ? > > C > >I think it possible configuration may require a node of the sameoF > >architecture (i.e., something already booted off that system disk).C > >You have to have one of those to create the matching system disky
 > >anyway. > >eE > >The point is that your boot-<arch> machine can be down and you canhH > >still boot via the boot-<otherarch> machine.  You just cannot installB > >or upgrade without having a machine of the proper architecture.& >                              ^^^^^^^ > M > If 'machine' equals to bootserver, then it is the same sitation as day one. O > If 'machine' equals also to a satellite, then this is news for me (my clusternI > is pretty much stable here - no new satellites, only loosing one after :
 > another) > F > And heck, why is it neccessary to have a machine of the same type toI > make the changes to the appropriate system disk ? Because of the SYSGEN-E > parameter file format ? Or because modifying DECnet-Plus requires amN > machine booted from the same system disk ? Or because of lack of engineering+ > power and will (which I can understand) ?l > L > But I admit, the MAKE option is 'new' and useful (but still less than ADD)  C Imagine you have a cluster with two Alphas and some shared storage.o7 And you'd like to add a new VAX node into that cluster.o8 And that VAX node should not have its local system disk.P So you think that the new item (No. 8) should be added to CLUSTER_CONFIG's menu:   ******A     ALPHA1 is an Alpha system and currently a member of a clusters0     so the following functions can be performed:  	 MAIN MENUc  '    1. ADD an Alpha node to the cluster.o ........     7. EXIT from this procedure.   9    8. Install OpenVMS VAX and ADD VAX node to the clustere *******s   Do you mean that?h   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2001.534 ************************