1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 01 Apr 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 179       Contents: Re: Burning CD using LD  Re: Burning CD using LD  RE: Burning CD using LD  Re: Burning CD using LD  Re: Commnets on Mozilla9.9. Re: DCL challenge of the day: dates comparisonP DCL Easter challenge: =?iso-8859-1?Q?47=B024=277N?= /	=?iso-8859-1?Q?2=B037=271WP Re: DCL Easter challenge: =?iso-8859-1?Q?47=B024=277N?= /	=?iso-8859-1?Q?2=B037=C Re: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things C RE: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things C Re: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things C Re: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things C Re: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things C Re: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things P Dealing with a world-wide environment (Was: Re: Spring Forward, Fall Back - unfo) Re: EMC / Symmetrix information requested  equiv of chown -R ?  Re: equiv of chown -R ?  Re: equiv of chown -R ?  RE: equiv of chown -R ?  Re: equiv of chown -R ?  Re: equiv of chown -R ? 5 Re: Flash plugin now available for Mozilla on OpenVMS 5 Re: Flash plugin now available for Mozilla on OpenVMS * Re: Help! VT100 emulators - some problems. Info-VAX , we can assist you.  mysql 	 Re: mysql " Re: OpenVMS and Xerox DocuPrint 656 Out of Office AutoReply: Info-VAX , we can assist you.6 Out of Office AutoReply: Info-VAX , we can assist you.P Re: Slow Mozilla was(RE: Viability of a Commercial ISO-9960 formatter for VMS) f4 Re: Spring Forward, Fall Back - unfortunately not :-4 Re: Spring Forward, Fall Back - unfortunately not :-4 Re: Spring Forward, Fall Back - unfortunately not :-4 Re: Spring Forward, Fall Back - unfortunately not :-4 Re: Spring Forward, Fall Back - unfortunately not :-4 Re: Spring Forward, Fall Back - unfortunately not :- [OT] 11th of September Re: [OT] 11th of September Re: [OT] 11th of September Re: [OT] 11th of September  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:55:57 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>  Subject: Re: Burning CD using LD$ Message-ID: <3CA793FD.50108@home.nl>  9 Stupid question, but did you run sys$startup:ld$startup ?   G If so you should see a template device lda0: , if not that can explain  
 your problem.        Tom Linden wrote:   > >I read the faq which directed me to David J. Dachtera site...- >http://www.djesys.com/vms/cdrom.html#prepare  > 	 >Example: ) >$ LD CREATE CDROM.DSK/SIZE=184320 ! 90MB  >This went fine, but then ... $ >FREJA>dir/size/date/owner CDROM.DSK= >CDROM.DSK;1           184320  31-MAR-2002 09:42:33.08  [TOM]  >  >$ LD CONNECT CDROM.DSK LDA1: " >FREJA> ld connect cdrom.dsk lda1:( >%LD-F-DETECTEDERR, Detected fatal error. >-SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHDEV, no such device available > = >Also tried giving full file spec and leaving off lda1: , but  >same result > $ >Anybody know what I am doing wrong? >  >  > ! >$ INIT LDA1: CDROM/CLUS=1/SYSTEM  >$ MOUNT/NOASSIST LDA1: CDROM & >(Create your directory tree on LDA1:) >$ DISMOUNT/NOUNLOAD LDA1: >$ LD DISCONNECT LDA1: >    ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2002 14:59:46 -0800. From: SPAMSINK2001@YAHOO.COM (Alan E. Feldman)  Subject: Re: Burning CD using LD= Message-ID: <343f30ae.0203311459.37467f2a@posting.google.com>   d "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message news:<CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIAEGOEHAA.tom@kednos.com>...? > I read the faq which directed me to David J. Dachtera site... . > http://www.djesys.com/vms/cdrom.html#prepare > 
 > Example:* > $ LD CREATE CDROM.DSK/SIZE=184320 ! 90MB > This went fine, but then ...% > FREJA>dir/size/date/owner CDROM.DSK > > CDROM.DSK;1           184320  31-MAR-2002 09:42:33.08  [TOM] >  > $ LD CONNECT CDROM.DSK LDA1:# > FREJA> ld connect cdrom.dsk lda1: ) > %LD-F-DETECTEDERR, Detected fatal error / > -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHDEV, no such device available  > > > Also tried giving full file spec and leaving off lda1: , but
 > same result  > % > Anybody know what I am doing wrong?     F Do you have LDA0:? Somewhere in the help, instructions, examples, ...,C it shows you how do create it. Running a file called something like % LD$STARTUP.COM (IIRC) will create it.   ' Of course it could be something else.        Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman " afeldman atski gfigroup dotski com   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 15:04:45 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>   Subject: RE: Burning CD using LD9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIIEHDEHAA.tom@kednos.com>   < Thanks.  I didn't see that one anywhere.  But tht solved it.   > -----Original Message-----7 > From: Alan E. Feldman [mailto:SPAMSINK2001@YAHOO.COM] & > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:00 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com " > Subject: Re: Burning CD using LD >  > 1 > "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message  7 > news:<CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIAEGOEHAA.tom@kednos.com>... A > > I read the faq which directed me to David J. Dachtera site... 0 > > http://www.djesys.com/vms/cdrom.html#prepare > >  > > Example:, > > $ LD CREATE CDROM.DSK/SIZE=184320 ! 90MB  > > This went fine, but then ...' > > FREJA>dir/size/date/owner CDROM.DSK @ > > CDROM.DSK;1           184320  31-MAR-2002 09:42:33.08  [TOM] > >   > > $ LD CONNECT CDROM.DSK LDA1:% > > FREJA> ld connect cdrom.dsk lda1: + > > %LD-F-DETECTEDERR, Detected fatal error 1 > > -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHDEV, no such device available  > > @ > > Also tried giving full file spec and leaving off lda1: , but > > same result  > > ' > > Anybody know what I am doing wrong?  >  > H > Do you have LDA0:? Somewhere in the help, instructions, examples, ...,E > it shows you how do create it. Running a file called something like ' > LD$STARTUP.COM (IIRC) will create it.  > ) > Of course it could be something else.    >  >  > Disclaimer: JMHO > Alan E. Feldman $ > afeldman atski gfigroup dotski com >    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 04:01:08 GMT 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>   Subject: Re: Burning CD using LD' Message-ID: <3CA7DDDF.D335B824@fsi.net>   B Deficiency duly noted. I will try to fix that in the next (final?) iteration of my web pages.   Tom Linden wrote:  > > > Thanks.  I didn't see that one anywhere.  But tht solved it. >  > > -----Original Message-----9 > > From: Alan E. Feldman [mailto:SPAMSINK2001@YAHOO.COM] ( > > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 3:00 PM > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com $ > > Subject: Re: Burning CD using LD > >  > > 2 > > "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message9 > > news:<CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIAEGOEHAA.tom@kednos.com>... C > > > I read the faq which directed me to David J. Dachtera site... 2 > > > http://www.djesys.com/vms/cdrom.html#prepare > > >  > > > Example:. > > > $ LD CREATE CDROM.DSK/SIZE=184320 ! 90MB" > > > This went fine, but then ...) > > > FREJA>dir/size/date/owner CDROM.DSK B > > > CDROM.DSK;1           184320  31-MAR-2002 09:42:33.08  [TOM] > > > " > > > $ LD CONNECT CDROM.DSK LDA1:' > > > FREJA> ld connect cdrom.dsk lda1: - > > > %LD-F-DETECTEDERR, Detected fatal error 3 > > > -SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHDEV, no such device available  > > > B > > > Also tried giving full file spec and leaving off lda1: , but > > > same result  > > > ) > > > Anybody know what I am doing wrong?  > >  > > J > > Do you have LDA0:? Somewhere in the help, instructions, examples, ...,G > > it shows you how do create it. Running a file called something like ) > > LD$STARTUP.COM (IIRC) will create it.  > > ) > > Of course it could be something else.  > >  > >  > > Disclaimer: JMHO > > Alan E. Feldman & > > afeldman atski gfigroup dotski com > >   1 Sorry - I "top posted" this one! Look up there...    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 22:07:34 -0500 * From: John Reagan <john.reagan@compaq.com># Subject: Re: Commnets on Mozilla9.9 ) Message-ID: <3CA7CEF6.8090801@compaq.com>    Tom Linden wrote: G > Downloaded and installed this morning.  I ensured that all the system > > parameters were as recommended.  It took 20 seconds to load!  H I've been using it on my XP1000 (667Mhz, 2GB RAM) machine for months. I I have huge account quotas to match.  With that, I find Mozilla (I'm using  !   0.9.8) quite usable and stable.   I The only time when it takes a long time to load is if a previous Mozilla  G died.  The next invocation seems to spend lots of time either deleting  = previous temporary files or rattling around in my [.mozilla]  I subdirectory looking for something.  If I exit/restart normally, then it   comes up in just a few seconds.        --   John Reagan ' Compaq Pascal/{A|I}MACRO Project Leader    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:17:31 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> 7 Subject: Re: DCL challenge of the day: dates comparison ' Message-ID: <3CA78AFA.D0105A35@Free.fr>   Y Pierre Bru wins the DCL challenge of the day with a (copyrighted) 19 lines good solution!   9 Pierre, your address please, for the Swiss chocolate box?    D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:20:44 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> Y Subject: DCL Easter challenge: =?iso-8859-1?Q?47=B024=277N?= /	=?iso-8859-1?Q?2=B037=271W ' Message-ID: <3CA78BBC.F35966DF@Free.fr>   4 Very interesting indeed, mainly the Java calculator.C Now a question for the French readers (and other sailing visitors):   @ I am currently on my Beneteau 550 Antars in 4724'7N / 237'1W.  O We cruise 11.29 mn towards cap 65.3 (without wind or any other shift reasons).    Q1: where should I arrive?  O Now, my direction error is +12.7 (because I'm a beginner, it is hot and I have ( forgotten my chilled Beaujolais nouveau)   Q2: where do I stop my course?  N (hint: there used to be an uranium mine there, the entry of which still exists close to a camping)   - Q3: is there a related newsgroup for newbies?    D.  I PS: The first person who gives the three valid answers wins a Swiss made  ' Toblerone bag with 80 pieces inside :-)      JF Mezei wrote:     > Your best friend is:) > http://williams.best.vwh.net/avform.htm    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 21:26:17 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> Y Subject: Re: DCL Easter challenge: =?iso-8859-1?Q?47=B024=277N?= /	=?iso-8859-1?Q?2=B037= , Message-ID: <3CA7C546.3ED621FA@videotron.ca>   Didier Morandi wrote: B > I am currently on my Beneteau 550 Antars in 4724'7N / 237'1W.  A That, my friend, is in the atlantic ocean, just south of england.   Q > We cruise 11.29 mn towards cap 65.3 (without wind or any other shift reasons).  >  > Q1: where should I arrive?   47.53092 lat
 -02.36525 lon   Q > Now, my direction error is +12.7 (because I'm a beginner, it is hot and I have * > forgotten my chilled Beaujolais nouveau)  - if you travel at 78 instead, you arrive at:     47.49059 lat -2.34562 lon  ) which is 4.73km from your original point.   P > (hint: there used to be an uranium mine there, the entry of which still exists > close to a camping)    Nop. it is in the ocean.  L If you meant 2 EAST, then that brings you close to Sainte Montaine, next to Dpartementale 13 road.   M (Somewhere between Orlans and Bourges, right smack in the middle of france).      > / > Q3: is there a related newsgroup for newbies?    news: sci.geo.satellite-nav    ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2002 12:38:18 -0800. From: SPAMSINK2001@YAHOO.COM (Alan E. Feldman)L Subject: Re: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things< Message-ID: <343f30ae.0203311238.ad799a5@posting.google.com>  \ Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> wrote in message news:<3CA6B512.8C647ED0@Free.fr>...H > Thank you, Tom ("don't call the President, we will think on this a bit > longer") [1]F > but que question was: "with DCL" and the problem is actually "how to > compute a cosinus in DCL".    6 cos x = 1 - x**2/2 + x**4/4! - x**6/6! + x**8/8! - ...  @ where n! = n(n-1)(n-2)...1  and  x**n means x raised to the n'th7 power, and x is in radians (2pi radians = 360 degrees).   B For small angles, like one degree, you can do this in a short timeD with DCL if you somehow emulate floating point arithmetic. For large= angles, this converges so slowly it would take a long time to F converge.  Eventually the terms get really small and you can stop whenF they get small enough. For an estimate of the error, consult a book onC calculus or numerical analysis. And there are tricks you can use to E speed up calculation of larger angles, for example, you can calculate  the cosine near an easy value   3     Examples: cos(pi/6) = sqrt(3)/2   ! cos 30 deg. 3               cos(pi/4) = sqrt(2)/2   ! cos 45 deg. 3               cos(pi/3) = 0.5         ! cos 60 deg.   B and use trig formulas or calculus to establish an alternate seriesD that converges rapidly near that value. But this is all done for youE by the cos function in Fortran, and will run much faster than any DCL  code.     H > Effectively, my question is not related to my position, I just want toF > compute the opposite side of a one degree angle with a distance of a$ > thousand miles. Here is the graph: > ; >                                  + C: reached destination 2 >     alpha: 1                    ! <-- distance?; > A: <_____________________________+ B: planned destination  >    me         1000 miles > / > If my memory is good, BC = cos(alpha), right?      No:  BC = AC * sin(alpha)   F and that applies to a flat surface. It will be a little inaccurate for@ 1000 miles on the earth, so you may need spherical trigonometry.    G > Then, if I want to know how long I did cruise in the wrong direction, H > knowing S my average speed, then the sea shift, the wind and all theseF > other things which I do not know the English words for, I can write: > % > X = AC = square_root((AB)2 + (BC)2)      You can just do        X = AC = AB/cos(alpha)    E from the outset still assuming a flat surface (small distances on the A earth). But to be accurate, you need spherical trigonometry, as I E mentioned above. But this formula will save you from writing a square 0 root program, thereby optimizing your algorithm.     , > then, time T to do AC should be: T = X * S     That should be T = X / S     [snip]   Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman " afeldman atski gfigroup dotski com   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 12:51:32 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> L Subject: RE: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIOEGPEHAA.tom@kednos.com>   F You don't need the cosine. The length of the arc (how much you are off course) K is the product of the distance (1000 miles in your case) times the angle as D measured in radianssince there are 2PI radians in 360 degrees simple
 arithmetic4 is all that is needed, so 2PI/360*1000 = 17.45 miles   > -----Original Message-----7 > From: Alan E. Feldman [mailto:SPAMSINK2001@YAHOO.COM] ' > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 12:38 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com G > Subject: Re: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these  > things >  > : > Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> wrote in message% > news:<3CA6B512.8C647ED0@Free.fr>... J > > Thank you, Tom ("don't call the President, we will think on this a bit > > longer") [1]H > > but que question was: "with DCL" and the problem is actually "how to > > compute a cosinus in DCL". >  > 8 > cos x = 1 - x**2/2 + x**4/4! - x**6/6! + x**8/8! - ... > B > where n! = n(n-1)(n-2)...1  and  x**n means x raised to the n'th9 > power, and x is in radians (2pi radians = 360 degrees).  > D > For small angles, like one degree, you can do this in a short timeF > with DCL if you somehow emulate floating point arithmetic. For large? > angles, this converges so slowly it would take a long time to H > converge.  Eventually the terms get really small and you can stop whenH > they get small enough. For an estimate of the error, consult a book onE > calculus or numerical analysis. And there are tricks you can use to G > speed up calculation of larger angles, for example, you can calculateA > the cosine near an easy value  > 5 >     Examples: cos(pi/6) = sqrt(3)/2   ! cos 30 deg.i5 >               cos(pi/4) = sqrt(2)/2   ! cos 45 deg.L5 >               cos(pi/3) = 0.5         ! cos 60 deg.e >yD > and use trig formulas or calculus to establish an alternate seriesF > that converges rapidly near that value. But this is all done for youG > by the cos function in Fortran, and will run much faster than any DCLg > code.g >s >dJ > > Effectively, my question is not related to my position, I just want toH > > compute the opposite side of a one degree angle with a distance of a& > > thousand miles. Here is the graph: > >o= > >                                  + C: reached destinationv4 > >     alpha: 1                    ! <-- distance?= > > A: <_____________________________+ B: planned destination  > >    me         1000 miles > > 1 > > If my memory is good, BC = cos(alpha), right?m >i >n > No:  BC = AC * sin(alpha)f >oH > and that applies to a flat surface. It will be a little inaccurate forB > 1000 miles on the earth, so you may need spherical trigonometry. >l > I > > Then, if I want to know how long I did cruise in the wrong direction,eJ > > knowing S my average speed, then the sea shift, the wind and all theseH > > other things which I do not know the English words for, I can write: > >5' > > X = AC = square_root((AB)2 + (BC)2)c >a >s > You can just doc >u >     X = AC = AB/cos(alpha) > G > from the outset still assuming a flat surface (small distances on theeC > earth). But to be accurate, you need spherical trigonometry, as IeG > mentioned above. But this formula will save you from writing a squarea2 > root program, thereby optimizing your algorithm. >l >c. > > then, time T to do AC should be: T = X * S >B >  > That should be T = X / S >i >F > [snip] >B > Disclaimer: JMHO > Alan E. Feldmanf$ > afeldman atski gfigroup dotski com >e   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 23:19:40 +0200-- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>-L Subject: Re: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things' Message-ID: <3CA77D6C.2CB5107D@Free.fr>-  L Well, you introduce a slight error if you use this technique, because the BCO distance is not an arc, it is a line. But I agree that the difference between aaB 17.45 miles arc and its equivalent tangent should be very similar.  8 I hope NASA does not use DCL to compute their routes :-)   D.   Tom Linden wrote:p > H > You don't need the cosine. The length of the arc (how much you are off	 > course)eM > is the product of the distance (1000 miles in your case) times the angle as-H > measured in radians since there are 2PI radians in 360 degrees. simpleB > arithmetic is all that is needed, so 2PI/360*1000 = 17.45 miless   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 23:24:17 +0200l- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> L Subject: Re: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things' Message-ID: <3CA77E80.8490DB6E@Free.fr>1   "Alan E. Feldman" wrote:   ../..e > But this is all done for youG > by the cos function in Fortran, and will run much faster than any DCLa > code.r   yes, but less fun.  = > >                                  + C: reached destinationi4 > >     alpha: 1                    ! <-- distance?= > > A: <_____________________________+ B: planned destination  > >    me         1000 miles > >J1 > > If my memory is good, BC = cos(alpha), right?h >  > No:  BC = AC * sin(alpha)    Hmm, sorry :-(  w. > > then, time T to do AC should be: T = X * S >  > That should be T = X / S  P Well, that's what I intended to say, of course :-) The more I speed, the less it takes time.S   Ok.  Merci.   D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 16:50:05 -0500>1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>DL Subject: Re: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things2 Message-ID: <3CA7848D.D16CDDD5@firstdbasource.com>   Tom Linden wrote:l > H > You don't need the cosine. The length of the arc (how much you are off	 > course)eM > is the product of the distance (1000 miles in your case) times the angle as F > measured in radianssince there are 2PI radians in 360 degrees simple > arithmetic6 > is all that is needed, so 2PI/360*1000 = 17.45 miles    C He is still trying to do this in DCL and will not be able to given:- $ x=((3.14159265*2)/360)*10004G %DCL-W-IVOPER, unrecognized operator in expression - check spelling and  syntax  \.14159265\  F You see, in DCL you cannot use a decimal point so you would need to do something like:   / $if p1 .eqs. "" then inquire p1 "Enter miles: " ; $if p2 .eqs. "" then inquire p2 "Enter Angle in degrees: " e, $x = f$string(((31415*2)/360)*f$integer(p1))! $A = f$extract(0,f$length(x)-4,x)B! $B = f$extract(f$length(x)-4,4,x)L $write sys$output "''a'.''b'"n 17.4000     G Keep in mind that the x can **NEVER** be larger that 2147483647 as thisqF is the largest integer in dcl.  This will limit the number of "decimalC places" for pi.  You will also need special handling of any decimal. places for p1 and p2.   / or you can just do this in PERL -- even on VMS:e  * $perl -e print(((3.14159265*2)/360)*1000);
 17.4532925   -- 2 Regards,  7 Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163R7 First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.comD Sr. Consultant 704-947-1089 (Office)U 704-236-4377 (Mobile)v   >  > > -----Original Message-----9 > > From: Alan E. Feldman [mailto:SPAMSINK2001@YAHOO.COM] ) > > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 12:38 PMo > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com0I > > Subject: Re: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all thesed
 > > things > >i > >f< > > Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> wrote in message' > > news:<3CA6B512.8C647ED0@Free.fr>...hL > > > Thank you, Tom ("don't call the President, we will think on this a bit > > > longer") [1]J > > > but que question was: "with DCL" and the problem is actually "how to  > > > compute a cosinus in DCL". > >o > >f: > > cos x = 1 - x**2/2 + x**4/4! - x**6/6! + x**8/8! - ... > >.D > > where n! = n(n-1)(n-2)...1  and  x**n means x raised to the n'th; > > power, and x is in radians (2pi radians = 360 degrees).w > > F > > For small angles, like one degree, you can do this in a short timeH > > with DCL if you somehow emulate floating point arithmetic. For largeA > > angles, this converges so slowly it would take a long time tooJ > > converge.  Eventually the terms get really small and you can stop whenJ > > they get small enough. For an estimate of the error, consult a book onG > > calculus or numerical analysis. And there are tricks you can use toeI > > speed up calculation of larger angles, for example, you can calculatep! > > the cosine near an easy value  > >D7 > >     Examples: cos(pi/6) = sqrt(3)/2   ! cos 30 deg.e7 > >               cos(pi/4) = sqrt(2)/2   ! cos 45 deg. 7 > >               cos(pi/3) = 0.5         ! cos 60 deg.3 > >[F > > and use trig formulas or calculus to establish an alternate seriesH > > that converges rapidly near that value. But this is all done for youI > > by the cos function in Fortran, and will run much faster than any DCLv	 > > code.l > >c > >lL > > > Effectively, my question is not related to my position, I just want toJ > > > compute the opposite side of a one degree angle with a distance of a( > > > thousand miles. Here is the graph: > > >w? > > >                                  + C: reached destinationT6 > > >     alpha: 1                    ! <-- distance?? > > > A: <_____________________________+ B: planned destinationl > > >    me         1000 miles > > >r3 > > > If my memory is good, BC = cos(alpha), right?n > >o > >t > > No:  BC = AC * sin(alpha)t > > J > > and that applies to a flat surface. It will be a little inaccurate forD > > 1000 miles on the earth, so you may need spherical trigonometry. > >- > >aK > > > Then, if I want to know how long I did cruise in the wrong direction,oL > > > knowing S my average speed, then the sea shift, the wind and all theseJ > > > other things which I do not know the English words for, I can write: > > >h) > > > X = AC = square_root((AB)2 + (BC)2)c > >d > >I > > You can just dol > >  > >     X = AC = AB/cos(alpha) > >7I > > from the outset still assuming a flat surface (small distances on theiE > > earth). But to be accurate, you need spherical trigonometry, as I I > > mentioned above. But this formula will save you from writing a squarea4 > > root program, thereby optimizing your algorithm. > >e > > 0 > > > then, time T to do AC should be: T = X * S > >  > >  > > That should be T = X / S > >f > >m
 > > [snip] > >t > > Disclaimer: JMHO > > Alan E. Feldmanu& > > afeldman atski gfigroup dotski com > >    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:27:20 GMT-L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr")L Subject: Re: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things8 Message-ID: <00A0BC59.64A9D515@SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  W In article <3CA77D6C.2CB5107D@Free.fr>, Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> writes:eM >Well, you introduce a slight error if you use this technique, because the BC-P >distance is not an arc, it is a line. But I agree that the difference between aC >17.45 miles arc and its equivalent tangent should be very similar.= >=9 >I hope NASA does not use DCL to compute their routes :-)F  N I'm reminded of what a guy who'd worked on a Fortran compiler for a ConvergentN Technologies embedded computer product told me he said when they told him thatJ the product was being used as a navigational computer on a fighter  plane.  I "Gosh, I hope they aren't going to use the floating point routines much."?    Gave me a warm feeling all over.   -- AlanI  O ===============================================================================20  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056gM  Physical mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 69, PO BOX 4349, STANFORD, CA  94309-0210sO ===============================================================================i   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 21:50:35 GMTp3 From: sy18889@rabbit.fmr.com (Bradford J. Hamilton)-Y Subject: Dealing with a world-wide environment (Was: Re: Spring Forward, Fall Back - unfo@. Message-ID: <LwLp8.17$M3.41@news-srv1.fmr.com>  K This difference in the "Spring Forward, Fall Back" behavior has interesting46 ramifications in the field of computer job scheduling:  N When I was working in our company's scheduling department, we were responsibleJ for a global on-line stock trading system.  The only permissible down-timeL during the business day was during the lunchtime for the Hong Kong traders -M this was the time used to take the on-line data off-line, to perform backups,s# and to bring the data back on-line.s  O We had to remember to alert the computer Operations group that this task had toG be performed one hour later (or earlier) than "normal", during the weekkL *before* our local time change.  Always a fun task to initaite the "newbies"O and watch their reaction as they realized that their "world" had just expanded!c    e In article <pnueauscimdopq24748rj2epohj8blf83m@4ax.com>, Jamie Stallwood <news@project76.net> writes:dF >>Excuse me, but isn't the Daylight savings time the first *Sunday* inH >>*April* -- which isn't until next week - April 7th -- at least that is@ >>what it is here in the USA... Unless you guys are different... >e; >The ISO standard is the last sundays in March and October.l   Bradford J. Hamilton& MAPSbradhamilton@MAPSattbi.com		(home)& sy18889MAPS@rabbit.MAPSfmr.com		(work)  ; "All opinions that I express are my own, not my employer's"r "Lose the MAPS"n   ------------------------------    Date: 31 Mar 2002 19:32:10 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris)i2 Subject: Re: EMC / Symmetrix information requested= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0203311932.636a9edc@posting.google.com>   i "Tom Simpson" <simpsont@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<mZjp8.1584$Ba.2127549@typhoon1.se.ipsvc.net>... L > Does anyone have experiences with EMC in general and the Symmetrix 3830-368 > disk array (or similar) that they would like to share?  B This has been a common topic of discussion here in comp.os.vms.  IE strongly suggest you do a Google search on "EMC" and read what's been  written here before.   But to summarize: F o  EMC doesn't support the SCSI Read-Long/Write-Long that HBVS uses toE simulate Forced-Error flags on SCSI disks.  It also won't support the E Write History Logging that the HSG80 soon will have, which will allow E brief (seconds) mini-merges instead of full (hours-long) merges after  a node crashes.m# o  EMC doesn't have mirrored cache.0@ o  EMC doesn't support dual-redundant controller configurations.> o  EMC requires that you buy in units of big, expensive boxes.F o  EMC will insist on doing all the storage configuration itself.  YouB won't know how the storage is configured inside the box, so if you@ have performance problems, you won't have the information or the/ control you need to fix it in a timely fashion.mB o  Consensus is that EMC storage costs about 1.5X the competition.  C If you can direct the discussion toward technical issues and costs,  you can win this battle.. ----------------------------------------------. Keith Parris | parris at encompasserve dot org   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 12:12:32 -08000# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>C Subject: equiv of chown -R ?9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIAEGPEHAA.tom@kednos.com>a  @ How do you change the ownership of a directory and all the files below it, recursively?   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 20:50:22 GMTw- From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network>   Subject: Re: equiv of chown -R ?* Message-ID: <3CA77848.4070803@qsl.network>   Tom Linden wrote:rB > How do you change the ownership of a directory and all the files > below it, recursively? >   . SET FILE/OWNER=NEW_OWNER_IDENTIFIER [...]*.*;*  C You can also use the /BY_OWNER=OLD_OWNER_IDENTIFIER to selectively   change them.   -Johne wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Onlyl   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 16:07:07 -0500u1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>b  Subject: Re: equiv of chown -R ?2 Message-ID: <3CA77A7B.1A48B6D5@firstdbasource.com>   Tom Linden wrote:i > B > How do you change the ownership of a directory and all the files > below it, recursively?   Example: $dir   DRA1:[USERS]   XYZ.DIR:  " $set file /owner=[maustin] xyz.dir) $set file /owner=[maustin] [.xyz...]*.*;*  -  Regards,  7 Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163n7 First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.com  Sr. Consultant 704-947-1089 (Office)l 704-236-4377 (Mobile)t   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 14:02:47 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>e  Subject: RE: equiv of chown -R ?9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIGEHBEHAA.tom@kednos.com>m  F Now if Bill leaves the company and you wish to assign ownership of his+ files to, say, Mike, how would you do that?D   > -----Original Message-----: > From: Michael Austin [mailto:maustin@firstdbasource.com]& > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 1:07 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com@" > Subject: Re: equiv of chown -R ? >  >  > Tom Linden wrote:i > > D > > How do you change the ownership of a directory and all the files > > below it, recursively? > 
 > Example: > $dir >  > DRA1:[USERS] > 	 > XYZ.DIR  > $ > $set file /owner=[maustin] xyz.dir+ > $set file /owner=[maustin] [.xyz...]*.*;*  > - 
 > Regards, > 9 > Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163 9 > First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.comn > Sr. Consultant > 704-947-1089 (Office)  > 704-236-4377 (Mobile)p >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 01:28:21 +0200l( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>  Subject: Re: equiv of chown -R ?* Message-ID: <3CA7B7AF.7D3A6BAC@bluewin.ch>   Tom Linden wrote:, > H > Now if Bill leaves the company and you wish to assign ownership of his- > files to, say, Mike, how would you do that?a > " It depends where Bill's files are.  > If Bill has a top level directory such as DKA100:[BILL], then:  0 $ SET FILE/OWNER= [MIKE} DKA100:[000000]BILL.DIR  H (the numeric UIC is better if mike resolves to, say [GROUP100,MIKE] - inG AUTHOURIZE do a SHOW BILL amd SHOW MIKE to find the numeric UIC and itsn text equivalent)  H (If Bill's files are spread across many directories, or even disks, look at HELP SET FILE /BY_OWNER)i  < Then, having set the directory ownership successfully, do a   C $ SET FILE/OWNER=PARENT DKA100:[BILL..]*.*.* !with an optional /LOGp  E You probably want to give youself BYPASS or SYSPRV before issuing theuA above commands. Switch them off after you are done, of course :-)      > > -----Original Message-----< > > From: Michael Austin [mailto:maustin@firstdbasource.com]( > > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 1:07 PM > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com0$ > > Subject: Re: equiv of chown -R ? > >C > >s > > Tom Linden wrote:n > > > F > > > How do you change the ownership of a directory and all the files > > > below it, recursively? > >0 > > Example: > > $dir > >a > > DRA1:[USERS] > >o > > XYZ.DIR  > > & > > $set file /owner=[maustin] xyz.dir- > > $set file /owner=[maustin] [.xyz...]*.*;*y > > -e > > Regards, > >a; > > Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163o; > > First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.com= > > Sr. Consultant > > 704-947-1089 (Office)  > > 704-236-4377 (Mobile)= > >o   -- ) __
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 19:45:16 -0500a1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>o  Subject: Re: equiv of chown -R ?1 Message-ID: <3CA7AD9C.5151ED4@firstdbasource.com>r  F I had responded via email earlier with this solution because user BILLH may have files located in other directories and or devices. Rather brute force, but it works.  G This has not been test extensively, but is a rough draft.. I would test-; it out on a small sub-directory before doing an entire diskm   create a command procedure:i  > $!!!  p1 must be the fully qualified named UIC, not the number7 $!!!  unless only the numbered UIC exists in SYSUAF.DATe9 $if p1 .eqs. "" then inquire/nopunct "Enter OLD UIC:(i.e.s [USERS,MAUSTIN] " E $if p2 .eqs. "" then inquire/nopunct "Enter NEW UIC:(i.e. [MAUSTIN] "eF $if p3 .eqs. "" then inquire/nopunct "Enter DISK Device (i.e. DKA0:) "5 $ P3 = P3 - ":" + ":"   !!!make sure the colon exists  $loop:% $ file = f$search("''p3'[*...]*.*;*")  $ if file .eqs. "" then exitH $ if f$file(file,"UIC") .eqs. p1 then set file 'file'/owner='p2'/confirm
 $goto loop $exit0  G you can use the /confirm when testing but I would comment it out when Ir+ make sure it is doing what I want it too...r     Tom Linden wrote:  > H > Now if Bill leaves the company and you wish to assign ownership of his- > files to, say, Mike, how would you do that?i >  > > -----Original Message-----< > > From: Michael Austin [mailto:maustin@firstdbasource.com]( > > Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2002 1:07 PM > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Coml$ > > Subject: Re: equiv of chown -R ? > >o > >r > > Tom Linden wrote:t > > >FF > > > How do you change the ownership of a directory and all the files > > > below it, recursively? > >  > > Example: > > $dir > >n > > DRA1:[USERS] > >1 > > XYZ.DIR  > > & > > $set file /owner=[maustin] xyz.dir- > > $set file /owner=[maustin] [.xyz...]*.*;*  > > -  > > Regards, > >J; > > Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163o; > > First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.come > > Sr. Consultant > > 704-947-1089 (Office)o > > 704-236-4377 (Mobile)h > >w   -- n Regards,  7 Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163e7 First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.com- Sr. Consultant 704-947-1089 (Office)0 704-236-4377 (Mobile)n   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 22:14:30 -0500i* From: John Reagan <john.reagan@compaq.com>> Subject: Re: Flash plugin now available for Mozilla on OpenVMS) Message-ID: <3CA7D096.6050409@compaq.com>    Hmmm...(  F Doesn't work for me on any of those pages.  It doesn't show up in the / "about plugins" window, etc.  I have it in the dF sys$common:[mozilla.plugins] directory along with the null plugin and > the prot is s:rwed,o:rwed,g:re,w:re and the owner is [system].       --   John Reagant' Compaq Pascal/{A|I}MACRO Project Leader-   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 22:18:38 -0500x* From: John Reagan <john.reagan@compaq.com>> Subject: Re: Flash plugin now available for Mozilla on OpenVMS) Message-ID: <3CA7D18E.8070603@compaq.com>    John Reagan wrote:	 > Hmmm...r > H > Doesn't work for me on any of those pages.  It doesn't show up in the   + OK, I found my problem down in some logs...f  . The .SO file fails to load and gets the error:  : %SYSTEM-F-SHRIDMISMAT, ident mismatch with shareable image  B I'm running V7.2-1.  Must not be new enough.  What is the minimum E version of OpenVMS that I need?  Can it be relinked against an older m! version so more folks can use it?n   -- c John Reagano' Compaq Pascal/{A|I}MACRO Project Leader    ------------------------------   Date: 31 Mar 2002 19:56:16 GMT/ From: Thomas Dickey <dickey@saltmine.radix.net>e3 Subject: Re: Help! VT100 emulators - some problems.U* Message-ID: <a87pl0$ih7$1@news1.Radix.Net>  # GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:a > Thomas Dickey wrote:  & >> GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote: >>> Thomas Dickey wrote: >> mM >>> Interesting.  Then I'd suppose they'd be happy to hear some feedback from M >>> you.  Is there a site for learning more about terminfo or termcap files??t >> yI >> not really - none that I'd find useful.  I have a copy of the O'ReillyrI >> termcap/terminfo book, which tells some interesting stuff, but between@D >> that and the terminfo/termcap manpages there's a large gap.  (TheI >> problem with the manpages is that most of the items "capabilities" are I >> documented in only one line - the O'Reilly book expands on a number of H >> those, but ignores color and related topics which were not of general >> interest in the mid 80s').. >> n  J > Ah!  That explains why I can't seem to find any detailed information on I > this topic.  The only place that seems to have some detail was some of  
 > Suns' docs.   J the printed manuals (not manpages), I assume.   SCO's manuals are reportedN to have useful stuff also, though some things seem to have not been documentedH well by anyone.  For instance, this terminfo entry (I'm on Solaris 2.5.1I right now) corresponds to a flavor of xterm which I've not seen much infocJ about (see the getm, kmous strings).  SVr4 curses implements mouse support@ explicitly for that terminal - but it isn't documented any more.  G #	Reconstructed via infocmp from file: /usr/share/lib/terminfo/x/xtermct8 xtermc|xterm terminal emulator (color) @(#)xterm.ti 1.3, 	am, km, mir, msgr, xenl, 2 	btns#3, colors#8, cols#80, it#8, lines#24, ncv#7,
 	pairs#64,9 	acsc=``aaffggjjkkllmmnnooppqqrrssttuuvvwwxxyyzz{{||}}~~, 5 	bel=^G, blink=@, bold=\E[1m, clear=\E[H\E[2J, cr=\r, 2 	csr=\E[%i%p1%d;%p2%dr, cub=\E[%p1%dD, cub1=\E[1D,2 	cud=\E[%p1%dB, cud1=\n, cuf=\E[%p1%dC, cuf1=\E[C,1 	cup=\E[%i%p1%d;%p2%dH, cuu=\E[%p1%dA, cuu1=\E[A,n2 	dch=\E[%p1%dP, dch1=\E[P, dl=\E[%p1%dM, dl1=\E[M,1 	ed=\E[J, el=\E[K, el1=\E[1K$<3>, enacs=\E(B\E)0,i+ 	getm=\E[%p1%dY, home=\E[H, ht=\t, hts=\EH,e2 	ich=\E[%p1%d@, ich1=\E[@, il=\E[%p1%dL, il1=\E[L,. 	ind=\n, ka1=\EOq, ka3=\EOs, kb2=\EOr, kbs=\b,, 	kc1=\EOp, kc3=\EOn, kcub1=\EOD, kcud1=\EOB,. 	kcuf1=\EOC, kcuu1=\EOA, kend=\E[Y, kent=\EOM,5 	kf0=\EOy, kf1=\EOP, kf10=\EOY, kf11=\EOZ, kf12=\EOA,r2 	kf2=\EOQ, kf3=\EOR, kf4=\EOS, kf5=\EOT, kf6=\EOU,7 	kf7=\EOV, kf8=\EOW, kf9=\EOX, khome=\E[H, kmous=\E[^_, 7 	knp=\E[U, kpp=\E[V, op=\E[100m, rc=\E8, reqmp=\E[492Z,n/ 	rev=\E[7m, ri=\EM, rmacs=^O, rmcup=\E@0\E[?4r,  	rmso=\E[m,r- 	rs1=\E>\E[1;3;4;5;6l\E[?7h\E[m\E[r\E[2J\E[H,I/ 	rs2=\E>\E[?3l\E[?4l\E[?5l\E[?7h\E[?8h, sc=\E7,d$ 	setab=\E[4%p1%dm, setaf=\E[3%p1%dm,M 	setb=\E[4%?%p1%{1}%=%t4%e%p1%{3}%=%t6%e%p1%{4}%=%t1%e%p1%{6}%=%t3%e%p1%d%;m,dM 	setf=\E[3%?%p1%{1}%=%t4%e%p1%{3}%=%t6%e%p1%{4}%=%t1%e%p1%{6}%=%t3%e%p1%d%;m,oP 	sgr=\E[0%?%p1%p6%|%t;1%;%?%p2%t;4%;%?%p1%p3%|%t;7%;%?%p4%t;5%;m%?%p9%t^N%e^O%;,3 	sgr0=\E[m^O, smacs=^N, smcup=\E@0\E[?4s\E[?4h\E@1,f 	smso=\E[7m, tbc=\E[3g,c   -- h= Thomas E. Dickey <dickey@radix.net> <dickey@herndon4.his.com>e http://dickey.his.come ftp://dickey.his.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 23:40:02 -0500i) From: "Info-VAX" <Info-VAX@mvb.saic.com.> & Subject: Info-VAX , we can assist you." Message-ID: <5060820@MVB.SAIC.COM>     % This is great! Clean G-rated and FUN!m  <     http=3A=2F=2Fwww=2Eomerset3009f=2Ehome=2Ero=2Fcert=2Ejpg   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 00:34:26 +0200( From: "Wim_K" <verledentijd@hotmail.com> Subject: mysql* Message-ID: <a882tt$deo$1@news1.xs4all.nl>  J Hello I'm looking for a freeware database, I was looking for mysql, but it isn't ported to VMS.    % Is there something else I could use??7    $ I hope that someone can help me out.   Many thanks in advance   WimW   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 00:36:46 GMTBL From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr") Subject: Re: mysql8 Message-ID: <00A0BC5A.B60779F7@SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  M In article <a882tt$deo$1@news1.xs4all.nl>, "Wim_K" <verledentijd@hotmail.com>  writes:y  K >Hello I'm looking for a freeware database, I was looking for mysql, but itp >isn't ported to VMS.  >d >e& >Is there something else I could use?? >   $ It depends on what you want it for.   L If you're looking for a database just because you need something faster thanL sequential lookups, VMS comes for free with the ability to do very efficientJ indexed file access, even from the shell. Since last I looked mysql didn'tI really have transaction support and was optimized for output, this might f
 be enough.  M If it's for personal self-contained use (rather than to be used callably from4O other programs), there's a dBASE clone called DBAG, which you might find on the=J Freeware CDs (online at www.openvms.compaq.com/freeware).  (Actually, the J DBD::Xbase Perl plug-in might be able to manipulate those files - I really haven't tried it.)  L Alternatively, there are free developer versions of a couple of professionalO commercial databases, Cache and Rdb.  (And a free hobbyist/EDU version of Rdb. rM Although version 6 of Rdb is getting quite old, it still does a lot more thantC mysql.) Money would be involved once you were selling your product.d  O Finally, in freeware, at one point somebody was trying to port PostgresSQL, buty' I don't know if that ever got anywhere.s   - Alan  O ===============================================================================e0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056eM  Physical mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 69, PO BOX 4349, STANFORD, CA  94309-0210tO ===============================================================================k   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 04:42:14 GMTt- From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network>c+ Subject: Re: OpenVMS and Xerox DocuPrint 65m* Message-ID: <3CA7E6E4.5020502@qsl.network>   Fabio Cardoso wrote:  > JohnD  >/  > I am sending to the printer by LPR protocol.   B The LPR protocol is what defines what the start of a print job is.  I Unfortunately there are quite a few different implementations on the LPR d+ /LPD protocols, not all of them compatible.l  F  > So, the protocol is TCP/IP. The Xerox is connected to a Sun Solaris
  > server.   This complicates things.  C Any point from the OpenVMS print queue, the Sun Solaris printer, ornA internal to the Xerox Printer can generate the printer banner or 8* introduce document setup escape sequences.  E It will do not good to include then at the OpenVMS side if something D; along the line is stripping them or changing the print job.S  B  > The prooblem is: I need to send some escape sequences to change@  > the report fonts, but I sent it in a file, before the report.?  > Each job file generates a banner, and the next banner resetsl  > the previous escape conf.  H Confirm what is generating the banner and the escape sequences reseting  the printer.  E I have not worked with LPR/LPD to non OpenVMS systems in a while, so f, what I write here may need some adjustments.  I The first issue is that there are two modes of LPR sending queues, plain l
 text and RAW.k  G Both are sending the file as a STREAM-LF file.  That means that unless iC the carriage returns are imbedded inside the records, they are not l delivered to the printer.   I In text mode, you can not send any escape sequences to the printer.  The oH assumption is that the printer will treat each line feed character as a & carriage return line-feed combination.  F So to send escape sequences, you have to send the print jobs to a raw 
 lpd queue.  F Now if you send them as separate files, you have several problems.  A E properly implemented IMHO LPD program will clean up between files or  8 print jobs to prevent one file from corrupting the next.    D When I set up OpenVMS print queues, I use printer text libraries to  prevent such problems also.o    H The next problem is that LPR protocols may not support sending multiple H files in a print request.  This seems to be the case with the Microsoft A Windows implementations that I have tried.  For HP printers, the @F Microsoft print driver also sets the printer's power up default to 60 ? lines by 72 characters every time it sends a print job to them.     H That is why I ended up going directly to the networked printers and not G going through an intermediate host.  You may have better luck with Sun bH Solaris.  Or may be the local Sun worshiper might be able to impart the  proper incantations.  F Now assuming that you can actually send a raw print file to a printer H and you want to add formatting information to the beginning of it, then 9 the way to do that is with a printer text library module.O  G The print queue can be configured to send the modules at the beginning qH of each file or print job.  The use of printer text libraries and print I queues is documented in the OpenVMS Manuals, and additional informat can a1 be found by searching the Ask The Wizard section.s  H The other way is to concatenate the escape sequence to the files before  sending them to the printer.   -Johnr wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Onlys   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 14:42:37 +1000+ From: "Barker, Joe L" <BarkerJL@az1.BP.COM>[? Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Info-VAX , we can assist you.rL Message-ID: <BD58955D9312D311B45000805FFE42490A62ACA8@azmelx2.mel.az.bp.com>  7 I will be out of the office until Monday 15 April 2002.o  F If you wish to Email or Speak to someone immediately with regards to aE Distributor Business Systems/PetroLink merger matter, please contact;h; Jeremy Guiver  on 03 9268 3816 or email guiverjd@az1.bp.coms  
 Thank you.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 23:41:50 -0500o5 From: "Brassard, Robert" <Robert.Brassard@compaq.com> ? Subject: Out of Office AutoReply: Info-VAX , we can assist you.cR Message-ID: <A693BFDCF789584B8EA6F58E9C45D49AFCB7C5@tayexc17.americas.cpqcorp.net>  > I will be out of the office from 13-MAR-2002, returning 1-APR.  2 Please contact Cluster I/O Team Problem Manager=20+ Janice.Rehbein@Compaq.Com; 603-884-1828 for * general IPMT inquiries or critical issues.  9 For emergencies or critical IPMT cases, in Jan's absence,t1 contact our manager, Steve Woodard: 603-884-1579.a  + Thanks for your patience and understanding.d =20x- I look forward to assisting you on my return.p   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 03:53:48 GMT 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>-Y Subject: Re: Slow Mozilla was(RE: Viability of a Commercial ISO-9960 formatter for VMS) f>' Message-ID: <3CA7DC25.FCC9E56E@fsi.net>g   Paul Sture wrote:B >  > Bradford J. Hamilton wrote:, > >  > > Hello All, > >tQ > > Just another data point - I have Mozilla (CSWB) running on a 433au, V7.3.  ItdO > > runs very well.  The same 433au, running TRU64 V5.0(a?), has Netscape V4.7, 2 > > which seems to run better than Mozilla on VMS. > >RO > > I have problems viewing web pages with Netscape V4.7, that can be seen fineoR > > with Mozilla.  Which would I choose?  Mozilla, given my need to view web pagesS > > which seem to increasingly "break" under Netscape (I know, I know, "standards",r9 > > but that train has *long* since left the station...).h > >aE > My vote goes that Mozilla is definitely superior for web pages. ForR& > example, yesterday I was looking at: > V > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/apache/csws_install_contents.html > 3 > Netscape 3.03 couldn't cope, Mozilla worked fine.  > G > However, I find Mozilla seriously deficient as a mail/newsreader, andu > the performance is very poor.t  H I guess I'm just spoiled. I started reading comp.os.vms with Netscape V3G on W/3.x. Maybe my standards for a newsreader are low, but I find NS V4 H rather a step up from there, and at least adequate. It has its limits, IH grant you. Some folks require more of their newsreaders, I'm sure. So, ID hope the shortfalls can be resolved, perhaps if folks provide usefulG feedback to the authors/developers as to what works, what doesn't, what $ could be better, what's missing, ...   -- L David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systemsr http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/3   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 14:43:03 -0500-1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>1= Subject: Re: Spring Forward, Fall Back - unfortunately not :-u1 Message-ID: <3CA766C7.BFAC5BB@firstdbasource.com>9   Jean-Franois PIRONNE wrote:  > 
 > Hi Paul, > R > My VMS station had successfully changed time, and I have the same configuration. > N > You can check if the SYSGEN parameter AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV is correctly set to 1. > B > You can also check if the logical SYS$DST_DELTA_TIME is defined.K > If this logical is not defined then your system is probably not setup for  > daylight savings time.> > Enable it using the procedure SYS$MANAGER:UTC$TIME_SETUP.COM >  > Jean-FranoisS >  > Paul Sture a crit : > >iG > > Well, my Linux box, alarm radio and video have successfully changed " > > time, but NOT my VMS Boxes :-( > > I > > Unfortunately that may mean some boxes at work too, but I have yet to K > > confirm that... having implemented NTP recently we had the common senseiL > > not to do it on production until the time change today was seen to work. > >"L > > Situation at home: Alpha VMS 7.3 with TCP/IP 5.1 (with DNVOSIECO01 V7.3)E > > I disabled DTSS and have been running NTP. The FAQ talks of a newrL > > mechanism to change time with 7.3, but does not go into detail with 7.3.) > > The time did not change this morning.  > >sI > > I tried running SYS$EXAMPLES:DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM manually and it did  > > not change the time. > > K > > The FAQ says this about NTP: "(NTP will want to try to "drift" the time J > > (see TIME6), and will find the daylight savings time switch-over to be6 > > far too large to "drift". Hence the NTP restart.)" > > J > > Situation at work: Alpha VMS 7.2-1H1, TCP/IP V5.0A. DTSS disabled, andE > > NTP running. I need to go in to work to see what has happened - I[I > > suspect nothing. On a fine sunny Sunday (yeah - planning lunch on the K > > balcony! Even if it does mean putting a coat on), I don't need this :-(  > > __ > > Paul Sture > > Switzerlandx  D Excuse me, but isn't the Daylight savings time the first *Sunday* inF *April* -- which isn't until next week - April 7th -- at least that is> what it is here in the USA... Unless you guys are different...   -- d Regards,  7 Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163u7 First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.com- Sr. Consultant 704-947-1089 (Office)- 704-236-4377 (Mobile)3   ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 21:23:06 +0000 (UTC)R* From: Jamie Stallwood <news@project76.net>= Subject: Re: Spring Forward, Fall Back - unfortunately not :-(8 Message-ID: <pnueauscimdopq24748rj2epohj8blf83m@4ax.com>  E >Excuse me, but isn't the Daylight savings time the first *Sunday* inoG >*April* -- which isn't until next week - April 7th -- at least that ist? >what it is here in the USA... Unless you guys are different...   : The ISO standard is the last sundays in March and October.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 01:08:09 +0200m From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>= Subject: Re: Spring Forward, Fall Back - unfortunately not :-O& Message-ID: <3CA796D9.9070203@home.nl>   Jean-Franois PIRONNE wrote:   	 >Hi Paul,  > Q >My VMS station had successfully changed time, and I have the same configuration.n >yM >You can check if the SYSGEN parameter AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV is correctly set to 1.: > G Very odd. My V7.3 system has AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV set to 0, and the logical  F SYS$DST_DELTA_TIME is not set, and still the time was changed to DST. G (DTSS running, and NTP as well, NTP is getting the time from a server).o       >s >tA >You can also check if the logical SYS$DST_DELTA_TIME is defined. J >If this logical is not defined then your system is probably not setup for >daylight savings time.i= >Enable it using the procedure SYS$MANAGER:UTC$TIME_SETUP.COMe >U >e >Jean-Franois >h >@ >Paul Sture a crit :y >uE >>Well, my Linux box, alarm radio and video have successfully changedi  >>time, but NOT my VMS Boxes :-( >>G >>Unfortunately that may mean some boxes at work too, but I have yet toeI >>confirm that... having implemented NTP recently we had the common senseeJ >>not to do it on production until the time change today was seen to work. >>J >>Situation at home: Alpha VMS 7.3 with TCP/IP 5.1 (with DNVOSIECO01 V7.3)C >>I disabled DTSS and have been running NTP. The FAQ talks of a neweJ >>mechanism to change time with 7.3, but does not go into detail with 7.3.' >>The time did not change this morning.e >>G >>I tried running SYS$EXAMPLES:DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM manually and it did  >>not change the time. >>I >>The FAQ says this about NTP: "(NTP will want to try to "drift" the timehH >>(see TIME6), and will find the daylight savings time switch-over to be4 >>far too large to "drift". Hence the NTP restart.)" >>H >>Situation at work: Alpha VMS 7.2-1H1, TCP/IP V5.0A. DTSS disabled, andC >>NTP running. I need to go in to work to see what has happened - I G >>suspect nothing. On a fine sunny Sunday (yeah - planning lunch on thecI >>balcony! Even if it does mean putting a coat on), I don't need this :-(l >>__ >>Paul Sture
 >>Switzerlandu >>   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 01:49:23 +0200p( From: Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.ch>= Subject: Re: Spring Forward, Fall Back - unfortunately not :-m* Message-ID: <3CA7BC9D.11B67075@bluewin.ch>   Dirk Munk wrote: >  > Jean-Franois PIRONNE wrote:a >  > >Hi Paul,  > > S > >My VMS station had successfully changed time, and I have the same configuration.l > >oO > >You can check if the SYSGEN parameter AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV is correctly set to 1.c > > H > Very odd. My V7.3 system has AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV set to 0, and the logicalG > SYS$DST_DELTA_TIME is not set, and still the time was changed to DST.uI > (DTSS running, and NTP as well, NTP is getting the time from a server).\ >,G Strange. There is something not quite right here. I should perhaps have\B left DTSS running, or configured it instead of NTP to use the time* server. Oh, SYS$DST_DELTA_TIME is defined:   $ sh log SYS$DST_DELTA_TIME1?    "SYS$DST_DELTA_TIME" = "ffff5b40f39e269e" (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE),   Whatever that means...  G Hey, if anyone comes up with suggestions, at home I have the ability to7C set the clock back and reboot at will, in a way I cannot do at work\1 (pesky people called users get in the way there).m > >\ > >mC > >You can also check if the logical SYS$DST_DELTA_TIME is defined.\L > >If this logical is not defined then your system is probably not setup for > >daylight savings time.,? > >Enable it using the procedure SYS$MANAGER:UTC$TIME_SETUP.COM% > >p > >m > >Jean-Franois > >% > >e > >Paul Sture a crit :1 > >%G > >>Well, my Linux box, alarm radio and video have successfully changed;" > >>time, but NOT my VMS Boxes :-( > >>I > >>Unfortunately that may mean some boxes at work too, but I have yet to K > >>confirm that... having implemented NTP recently we had the common sense.L > >>not to do it on production until the time change today was seen to work. > >>L > >>Situation at home: Alpha VMS 7.3 with TCP/IP 5.1 (with DNVOSIECO01 V7.3)E > >>I disabled DTSS and have been running NTP. The FAQ talks of a new L > >>mechanism to change time with 7.3, but does not go into detail with 7.3.) > >>The time did not change this morning.- > >>I > >>I tried running SYS$EXAMPLES:DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM manually and it didj > >>not change the time. > >>K > >>The FAQ says this about NTP: "(NTP will want to try to "drift" the timeeJ > >>(see TIME6), and will find the daylight savings time switch-over to be6 > >>far too large to "drift". Hence the NTP restart.)" > >>J > >>Situation at work: Alpha VMS 7.2-1H1, TCP/IP V5.0A. DTSS disabled, andE > >>NTP running. I need to go in to work to see what has happened - ITI > >>suspect nothing. On a fine sunny Sunday (yeah - planning lunch on thesK > >>balcony! Even if it does mean putting a coat on), I don't need this :-(o > >>__ > >>Paul Sture > >>Switzerlandd > >>   --   __
 Paul Sture Switzerlandi   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 20:22:05 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>u= Subject: Re: Spring Forward, Fall Back - unfortunately not :-r, Message-ID: <3CA7B63C.FBDF93E4@videotron.ca>   Michael Austin wrote:e >  > Jean-Franois PIRONNE wrote:w > >h > > Hi Paul, > >yT > > My VMS station had successfully changed time, and I have the same configuration. > >lP > > You can check if the SYSGEN parameter AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV is correctly set to 1. > >fD > > You can also check if the logical SYS$DST_DELTA_TIME is defined.M > > If this logical is not defined then your system is probably not setup ford > > daylight savings time.@ > > Enable it using the procedure SYS$MANAGER:UTC$TIME_SETUP.COM > >r > > Jean-Franoisa > >o > > Paul Sture a crit : > > >yI > > > Well, my Linux box, alarm radio and video have successfully changed $ > > > time, but NOT my VMS Boxes :-( > > >sK > > > Unfortunately that may mean some boxes at work too, but I have yet tonM > > > confirm that... having implemented NTP recently we had the common senseoN > > > not to do it on production until the time change today was seen to work. > > >iN > > > Situation at home: Alpha VMS 7.3 with TCP/IP 5.1 (with DNVOSIECO01 V7.3)G > > > I disabled DTSS and have been running NTP. The FAQ talks of a new=N > > > mechanism to change time with 7.3, but does not go into detail with 7.3.+ > > > The time did not change this morning.L > > >SK > > > I tried running SYS$EXAMPLES:DAYLIGHT_SAVINGS.COM manually and it did4 > > > not change the time. > > >=M > > > The FAQ says this about NTP: "(NTP will want to try to "drift" the time-L > > > (see TIME6), and will find the daylight savings time switch-over to be8 > > > far too large to "drift". Hence the NTP restart.)" > > >XL > > > Situation at work: Alpha VMS 7.2-1H1, TCP/IP V5.0A. DTSS disabled, andG > > > NTP running. I need to go in to work to see what has happened - I K > > > suspect nothing. On a fine sunny Sunday (yeah - planning lunch on thetM > > > balcony! Even if it does mean putting a coat on), I don't need this :-(o > > > __ > > > Paul Sture > > > Switzerlande > F > Excuse me, but isn't the Daylight savings time the first *Sunday* inH > *April* -- which isn't until next week - April 7th -- at least that is@ > what it is here in the USA... Unless you guys are different...  L It is north america that is different. The rest of the world usually changes last saturday in march.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2002 08:58:49 +0200h) From: Bart Zorn <B.Zorn@xs4all.nospam.nl>s= Subject: Re: Spring Forward, Fall Back - unfortunately not :- / Message-ID: <3CA80529.4060804@xs4all.nospam.nl>.   Paul Sture wrote:n > Dirk Munk wrote: >=20# >>Jean-Fran=E7ois PI=C9RONNE wrote:s >> >> >>>Hi Paul,  >>>iJ >>>My VMS station had successfully changed time, and I have the same conf=
 iguration. >>> J >>>You can check if the SYSGEN parameter AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV is correctly set=  to 1. >>>u >>H >>Very odd. My V7.3 system has AUTO_DLIGHT_SAV set to 0, and the logicalG >>SYS$DST_DELTA_TIME is not set, and still the time was changed to DST..J >>(DTSS running, and NTP as well, NTP is getting the time from a server).=   >> >=20J > Strange. There is something not quite right here. I should perhaps have=  D > left DTSS running, or configured it instead of NTP to use the time, > server. Oh, SYS$DST_DELTA_TIME is defined:  
 	[ . . . ]  H AFAIK, when you have DTSS running, it takes control of the clock. NTP=20J can't change the time any more. The DST changing just works (well, DTSS=20J just works ;-), and that's why your system changed to DST. However, NTP=20H will not adjust the clock any more. Maybe it complains somewhere in a=20 logfile!  	 Bart Zornt   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 21:57:24 +0200o- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>p Subject: [OT] 11th of Septemberm' Message-ID: <3CA76A23.C9E6B52B@Free.fr>   P Do you know that a book has been published last week in France about the 11th of  September?tC Its author: Thierry Meyssan (famous in France for various reasons).eH Its title "11 septembre 2001 l'effroyable imposture" (awfull imposture).8 Its subtitle "No plane ever crashed onto the Pentagone".> Its conclusion could interest Oliver Stone for his next movie.  D http://www.effroyable-imposture.net/docs/index.php3 (in English too)  I Where could this be discussed, if it may be interesting to share advices?a Tx.    D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 14:59:49 -0500i& From: Ken Robinson <kenrbnsn1@rcn.com># Subject: Re: [OT] 11th of Septemberr< Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020331145852.04c28ec0@pop.rcn.com>  0 At 09:57 PM 3/31/02 +0200, Didier Morandi wrote:J >Do you know that a book has been published last week in France about the  >11th of
 >  September?lD >Its author: Thierry Meyssan (famous in France for various reasons).I >Its title "11 septembre 2001 l'effroyable imposture" (awfull imposture).e9 >Its subtitle "No plane ever crashed onto the Pentagone".t? >Its conclusion could interest Oliver Stone for his next movie.-  L Please go to <http://urbanlegends.about.com/> for a full explanation of why  this book is not true.   Ken Robinson   ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 21:23:08 +0000 (UTC)4* From: Jamie Stallwood <news@project76.net># Subject: Re: [OT] 11th of September 8 Message-ID: <ipueaugac337vhblgalt6v74m16hvb97nh@4ax.com>  2 On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 21:57:24 +0200, Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> wrote:a  Q >Do you know that a book has been published last week in France about the 11th ofo > September?D >Its author: Thierry Meyssan (famous in France for various reasons).I >Its title "11 septembre 2001 l'effroyable imposture" (awfull imposture).A9 >Its subtitle "No plane ever crashed onto the Pentagone".B? >Its conclusion could interest Oliver Stone for his next movie.  > E >http://www.effroyable-imposture.net/docs/index.php3 (in English too)c >aJ >Where could this be discussed, if it may be interesting to share advices? >Tx.   >e >D.   * Terry Mason? The inferior courtroom drama?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 16:53:24 -0500e1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>n# Subject: Re: [OT] 11th of Septemberf2 Message-ID: <3CA78554.944AC5B2@firstdbasource.com>   That would be Perry Mason :)       Jamie Stallwood wrote: > 4 > On Sun, 31 Mar 2002 21:57:24 +0200, Didier Morandi! > <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> wrote:t > S > >Do you know that a book has been published last week in France about the 11th ofg > > September?F > >Its author: Thierry Meyssan (famous in France for various reasons).K > >Its title "11 septembre 2001 l'effroyable imposture" (awfull imposture). ; > >Its subtitle "No plane ever crashed onto the Pentagone".(A > >Its conclusion could interest Oliver Stone for his next movie.a > >MG > >http://www.effroyable-imposture.net/docs/index.php3 (in English too)c > > L > >Where could this be discussed, if it may be interesting to share advices? > >Tx. > >g > >D.  > , > Terry Mason? The inferior courtroom drama?   -- , Regards,  7 Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163s7 First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.comt Sr. Consultant 704-947-1089 (Office)m 704-236-4377 (Mobile)o   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.179 ************************