1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 08 Apr 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 193       Contents:' Re: Alphaserver Vs Ultimate Workstation  Re: Anonymous ftp  RE: Anonymous ftp  RE: Anonymous ftp  Re: Anonymous ftp  RE: Anonymous ftp  Re: Anonymous ftp  RE: Anonymous ftp  Re: Blade architectures  RE: Blade architectures  Re: Blade architectures  Canada Immigration News  Re: CMS library repairP Re: Even lookin at the previous message shows up as a JS virus, lucky Norton cau& Re: Generating MMS files with Decset ? Re: IA64 is not the VAX  Re: IA64 is not the VAX ) Re: Predictions - just for the hell of it  Re: Problem with Shadow CopyP Re: Regarding Hewlett- Packard's request to dismiss a lawsuit challenging the Co Re: SCSI Raid options for DS10 Security audit tools for VMS  RE: Security audit tools for VMS  Re: Security audit tools for VMS  RE: Security audit tools for VMS Solid State disk drives  Re: Solid State disk drives  Re: Solid State disk drives 0 Re: Sue, a great promotion for "unhackable" vms!
 Unsubsribe# Re: Who has (ever) used DECmigrate? 4 Re: Why VMS is "unhackable" lesson 3 ... (follow-up)  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 20:21:05 GMT + From: Jeff Campbell <jcampbell@ins-msi.com> 0 Subject: Re: Alphaserver Vs Ultimate Workstation+ Message-ID: <3CB0A074.427017A3@ins-msi.com>    Robert Santos wrote: > F > I Have in my posession alot of Ultimate workstations iv been sellingE > off.But I dont understand how and why these machines are different. J > The part numbers on every part in both machine are identical.Except whenJ > they boot up the firmware either is ultimate workstation or alphaserver. > C > From what im told the ultimate workstation will not run Tru64 but  > Alphaserver will.   C IIRC, the Ultimate Workstations were Tru64 or NT boxes. VMS was not F supported. That said, UWs will run all three... the UWs *are* AS1200s. > B > Can the ultimate workstation firmware be changed to alphaserver?  C No.  Because it is the same for AS1200s, UWs and white box DS530x's    >  > --: > Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG  
 Jeff Campbell  n8wxs@arrl.net   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Apr 2002 15:10:01 -0400 & From: fdc@columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Subject: Re: Anonymous ftp1 Message-ID: <a8q5i9$qvr$1@watsol.cc.columbia.edu>   9 In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIOEFNELAA.tom@kednos.com>, " Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:! : Running tcpip 5.1 under AXp 7.3  : E : When accessing the system from a command line interface works fine, ? : but when using browser with address ftp://freja.kednos.com it H : display the ftp root directory but when you try to click on any of theB : entries. it responds "The page cannot be display"  This with IE.! : with Opera doesn't get that far  :  : This waht IE displays  : G : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ANONYMOUS] @ : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 INPUT.DIR;1              1/4: : 23-AUG-2001 17:28:00  [SYSTEM]               (RWE,RWE,,)@ : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 LOGIN.COM;1              1/4< : 23-AUG-2001 17:27:54  [ANONY,ANONYMOUS]      (RE,RE,RE,RE)@ : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 PUB.DIR;1                1/4> : 28-AUG-2001 07:40:54  [SYSTEM]               (RWE,RWE,RE,RE)A : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 Total of 3 files, 3/12 blocks  : < : I have a similar set up on Tru64 4.0d and that works fine. : Is this a permission issue?  : @ I suspect your FTP client assumes that all FTP servers are Unix,F and parses only Unix style directory listings.  Evidently IE does someE sanity checking and realizes the VMS listing is not what it expected. $ Opera apparently doesn't even check.   - Frank    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 13:05:02 -0700# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: RE: Anonymous ftp9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIAEGBELAA.tom@kednos.com>   = Well, very likely you are right, cause I have the same set of D files in an ftp directory on Tru64 and it works fine.  So is there aE way to make this work with browser, or this another reason to provide  a unix interface to VMS.     > -----Original Message-----/ > From: Frank da Cruz [mailto:fdc@columbia.edu] ' > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 12:10 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: Re: Anonymous ftp >  > ; > In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIOEFNELAA.tom@kednos.com>, $ > Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:# > : Running tcpip 5.1 under AXp 7.3  > : G > : When accessing the system from a command line interface works fine, A > : but when using browser with address ftp://freja.kednos.com it J > : display the ftp root directory but when you try to click on any of theD > : entries. it responds "The page cannot be display"  This with IE.# > : with Opera doesn't get that far  > :  > : This waht IE displays  > : I > : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ANONYMOUS] B > : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 INPUT.DIR;1              1/4< > : 23-AUG-2001 17:28:00  [SYSTEM]               (RWE,RWE,,)B > : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 LOGIN.COM;1              1/4> > : 23-AUG-2001 17:27:54  [ANONY,ANONYMOUS]      (RE,RE,RE,RE)B > : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 PUB.DIR;1                1/4@ > : 28-AUG-2001 07:40:54  [SYSTEM]               (RWE,RWE,RE,RE)C > : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 Total of 3 files, 3/12 blocks  > : > > : I have a similar set up on Tru64 4.0d and that works fine. > : Is this a permission issue?  > : B > I suspect your FTP client assumes that all FTP servers are Unix,H > and parses only Unix style directory listings.  Evidently IE does someG > sanity checking and realizes the VMS listing is not what it expected. & > Opera apparently doesn't even check. > 	 > - Frank  >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 13:25:06 -0700# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: RE: Anonymous ftp9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIMEGBELAA.tom@kednos.com>   > On second thought, when you access an anonymous ftp site using? a browser, why is that different than command line ftp.  At the = server end they both pass through TCPIP5.1 and that certainly > recognizes unix syntax.  There must be another piece that I am2 missing.  Mozilla on the same platform also fails!   > -----Original Message-----* > From: Tom Linden [mailto:tom@kednos.com]& > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 1:05 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: RE: Anonymous ftp >  > ? > Well, very likely you are right, cause I have the same set of F > files in an ftp directory on Tru64 and it works fine.  So is there aG > way to make this work with browser, or this another reason to provide  > a unix interface to VMS. >  > > -----Original Message-----1 > > From: Frank da Cruz [mailto:fdc@columbia.edu] ) > > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 12:10 PM  > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > > Subject: Re: Anonymous ftp > >  > > = > > In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIOEFNELAA.tom@kednos.com>, & > > Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:% > > : Running tcpip 5.1 under AXp 7.3  > > : I > > : When accessing the system from a command line interface works fine, C > > : but when using browser with address ftp://freja.kednos.com it L > > : display the ftp root directory but when you try to click on any of theF > > : entries. it responds "The page cannot be display"  This with IE.% > > : with Opera doesn't get that far  > > :  > > : This waht IE displays  > > : K > > : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 Directory SYS$SYSDEVICE:[ANONYMOUS] D > > : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 INPUT.DIR;1              1/4> > > : 23-AUG-2001 17:28:00  [SYSTEM]               (RWE,RWE,,)D > > : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 LOGIN.COM;1              1/4@ > > : 23-AUG-2001 17:27:54  [ANONY,ANONYMOUS]      (RE,RE,RE,RE)D > > : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 PUB.DIR;1                1/4B > > : 28-AUG-2001 07:40:54  [SYSTEM]               (RWE,RWE,RE,RE)E > > : 01/01/1980 12:00PM              0 Total of 3 files, 3/12 blocks  > > : @ > > : I have a similar set up on Tru64 4.0d and that works fine.! > > : Is this a permission issue?  > > : D > > I suspect your FTP client assumes that all FTP servers are Unix,J > > and parses only Unix style directory listings.  Evidently IE does someI > > sanity checking and realizes the VMS listing is not what it expected. ( > > Opera apparently doesn't even check. > >  > > - Frank  > >  >    ------------------------------   Date: 7 Apr 2002 16:38:51 -0400 & From: fdc@columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) Subject: Re: Anonymous ftp1 Message-ID: <a8qaor$akq$1@watsol.cc.columbia.edu>   9 In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIAEGBELAA.tom@kednos.com>, " Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:? : Well, very likely you are right, cause I have the same set of F : files in an ftp directory on Tru64 and it works fine.  So is there aG : way to make this work with browser, or this another reason to provide  : a unix interface to VMS.   : J It's another reason to use Kermit instead of FTP :-)  Seriously, FTP is anK extremely primitive protocol, which didn't matter much in the old days when J we used our FTP clients by hand and read directory listings with our eyes,K but now that FTP is built into browsers that want to give you a GUI view of H a foreign file system by sending a LIST command, suddenly FTP's weaknessF stand out.  The idea that a client has to "parse" a platform-dependentJ directory listing in order to get an idea of the file layout on the serverG is, well, gross.  There are proposals in the works for FTP to support a J platform-independent representation of file and directory structure, but IG doubt we will see the fruits of these proposals any time soon, if ever. I Commercial browser makers certainly don't care about purity of networking F principals, if all it buys them is entree into some little-known nicheJ market.  As far as they're concerned, Unix and Windows are all that exist.I Rather than use sound, proven, time-honored techniques for cross-platform K interoperation, they prefer to "auto-detect" the other platform (Windows or 8 Unix, period) so the user doesn't have to know anything.  B I would be serious about using Kermit instead of FTP, except that:  )  1. RFC 2839/2840 Internet Kermit Service 0     ( http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/iksd.html ):     has not yet been ported to the VMS version of C-Kermit3     (volunteer VMS programmers are always welcome).   5  2. kermit:// URLs are not yet supported by browsers.    - Frank    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 17:09:25 -0700# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: RE: Anonymous ftp9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIEEGEELAA.tom@kednos.com>   C Frank, I am sure that you are right, but it is a quixotic struggle. A Unix and Windows ARE the internet world, and ftp on VMS should be I no different than on any other platform, else it is deficient.  It sounds D like you want to take the mountain to Mohammed, and that ain't gonna happen.   B But back to my original point, if ftp to a VMS system works with aC command line interface (which obviously understands unix syntax) it 1 ought to also with a browser.  What is different?        > -----Original Message-----/ > From: Frank da Cruz [mailto:fdc@columbia.edu] & > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 1:39 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: Re: Anonymous ftp >  > ; > In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIAEGBELAA.tom@kednos.com>, $ > Tom Linden <tom@kednos.com> wrote:A > : Well, very likely you are right, cause I have the same set of H > : files in an ftp directory on Tru64 and it works fine.  So is there aI > : way to make this work with browser, or this another reason to provide  > : a unix interface to VMS. > : L > It's another reason to use Kermit instead of FTP :-)  Seriously, FTP is anC > extremely primitive protocol, which didn't matter much in the old  > days when L > we used our FTP clients by hand and read directory listings with our eyes,A > but now that FTP is built into browsers that want to give you a 
 > GUI view of J > a foreign file system by sending a LIST command, suddenly FTP's weaknessH > stand out.  The idea that a client has to "parse" a platform-dependentL > directory listing in order to get an idea of the file layout on the serverI > is, well, gross.  There are proposals in the works for FTP to support a L > platform-independent representation of file and directory structure, but II > doubt we will see the fruits of these proposals any time soon, if ever. K > Commercial browser makers certainly don't care about purity of networking H > principals, if all it buys them is entree into some little-known nicheL > market.  As far as they're concerned, Unix and Windows are all that exist.K > Rather than use sound, proven, time-honored techniques for cross-platform A > interoperation, they prefer to "auto-detect" the other platform 
 > (Windows or : > Unix, period) so the user doesn't have to know anything. > D > I would be serious about using Kermit instead of FTP, except that: > + >  1. RFC 2839/2840 Internet Kermit Service 2 >     ( http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/iksd.html )< >     has not yet been ported to the VMS version of C-Kermit5 >     (volunteer VMS programmers are always welcome).  > 7 >  2. kermit:// URLs are not yet supported by browsers.  > 	 > - Frank  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 21:51:16 -0400 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>  Subject: Re: Anonymous ftp1 Message-ID: <3CB0F794.4A3BEDD@firstdbasource.com>    Tom Linden wrote:  > E > Frank, I am sure that you are right, but it is a quixotic struggle. C > Unix and Windows ARE the internet world, and ftp on VMS should be K > no different than on any other platform, else it is deficient.  It sounds F > like you want to take the mountain to Mohammed, and that ain't gonna	 > happen.  > D > But back to my original point, if ftp to a VMS system works with aE > command line interface (which obviously understands unix syntax) it 3 > ought to also with a browser.  What is different?     E They don't use the same interface on the PC side. ftp != ftp != ftp.  E The DOS version coded for the difference in directory structures, the C IE version does not, as it has to try an "icon-ize" the contents of = the directory.  To do that, It must completely understand the F file/directory structures and display them on the fly and is obviously not working.  C If you want this to work use Netscape.  The problem is IE not VMS.   Netscape and Lynx works fine.    --   Regards,  7 Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163 7 First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.com  Sr. Consultant 704-947-1089 (Office)  704-236-4377 (Mobile)    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 21:05:04 -0700# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>  Subject: RE: Anonymous ftp9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJICEGGELAA.tom@kednos.com>   @ So you mean to tell me that Mozilla running on VMS7.3 also can't
 handle it?   > -----Original Message-----: > From: Michael Austin [mailto:maustin@firstdbasource.com]& > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 6:51 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: Re: Anonymous ftp >  >  > Tom Linden wrote:  > > G > > Frank, I am sure that you are right, but it is a quixotic struggle. E > > Unix and Windows ARE the internet world, and ftp on VMS should be D > > no different than on any other platform, else it is deficient.   > It sounds H > > like you want to take the mountain to Mohammed, and that ain't gonna > > happen.  > > F > > But back to my original point, if ftp to a VMS system works with aG > > command line interface (which obviously understands unix syntax) it 5 > > ought to also with a browser.  What is different?  >  > G > They don't use the same interface on the PC side. ftp != ftp != ftp.  G > The DOS version coded for the difference in directory structures, the E > IE version does not, as it has to try an "icon-ize" the contents of ? > the directory.  To do that, It must completely understand the H > file/directory structures and display them on the fly and is obviously > not working. > E > If you want this to work use Netscape.  The problem is IE not VMS.    > Netscape and Lynx works fine.  >  > --  
 > Regards, > 9 > Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #26116329 > First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.come > Sr. Consultant > 704-947-1089 (Office)t > 704-236-4377 (Mobile)E >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 18:05:45 GMT 1 From: "Stephen Fuld" <s.fuld@PleaseRemoveAtt.net>l  Subject: Re: Blade architecturesF Message-ID: <ZT%r8.9099$QC1.836295@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>  3 "Peter da Silva" <peter@abbnm.com> wrote in messageu news:a8nega$7lg@web.nmti.com...SJ > One thing that doesn't seem to be considered is how long downtime has toI > last to have an effect. One person commented that a 10 hour downtime in G > 10 years is better than 10 30 second downtimes per year over the same 	 > period.I >iK > That really depends on the system, and what that downtime involves. Let'srK > say it's a 911 system: if 10 times a year everyone needs to wait an extraiH > 30 seconds for a dialtone, or for their phone number to show up on theC > operator's display, that's unlikely to have nearly as significant  consequencesL > as a five minute downtime every other year, let alone the 10 hour downtimeL > described in this thread. And yet that 5 minute downtime is half the totalK > downtime of the more evenly distributed failures. But if that outage cutsmI > callers off for 30 seconds that's long enough for humans to abandon the.J > call: in which case a smaller total number of outages, even if they last > longer, may be better. >sF > In the case of the VAX clusters, a 2 minute outage while the cluster handleseG > the loss of a member may make no difference at all, if the cluster isc beingnK > used for simulation or batched financial transactions, but it may lead to E > catastrophic failure if it's monitoring a real-time control system.   C A good explaination of why using one number to describe the failure I characteristics of a system is problematic.  RAS really is three numbers, J though you can compute the third from any two of the others.  Just knowingJ Reliability (MTBF), or Availability (% uptime) doesn't distinguish betweenL the two situations you described above, but if you have these two (or one ofJ the two plus the third - Servicability or MTTR), you can distinguish them.F And you are right, therre are some applications where each is the most
 important.   --  - Stephen Fuldg+    e-mail address disguised to prevent spam    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 11:20:19 -0700# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>i  Subject: RE: Blade architectures9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIEEFPELAA.tom@kednos.com>e  E Availability= MTBF/(MTBF + MTTR) is for the examples you cite not theiF best measure,  when I was in the satellite business we used to specifyH a lower limit for MTBF and an upper limit for MTTR based on the mission.   > -----Original Message-----8 > From: Stephen Fuld [mailto:s.fuld@PleaseRemoveAtt.net]' > Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 11:06 AMS > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com " > Subject: Re: Blade architectures >  >3 >G5 > "Peter da Silva" <peter@abbnm.com> wrote in message1! > news:a8nega$7lg@web.nmti.com...IL > > One thing that doesn't seem to be considered is how long downtime has toK > > last to have an effect. One person commented that a 10 hour downtime in I > > 10 years is better than 10 30 second downtimes per year over the same1 > > period.  > > = > > That really depends on the system, and what that downtime  > involves. Let'sh? > > say it's a 911 system: if 10 times a year everyone needs tor > wait an extraeJ > > 30 seconds for a dialtone, or for their phone number to show up on theE > > operator's display, that's unlikely to have nearly as significanti > consequences@ > > as a five minute downtime every other year, let alone the 10 > hour downtime-? > > described in this thread. And yet that 5 minute downtime isL > half the totalA > > downtime of the more evenly distributed failures. But if thatJ
 > outage cutseK > > callers off for 30 seconds that's long enough for humans to abandon the L > > call: in which case a smaller total number of outages, even if they last > > longer, may be better. > >iH > > In the case of the VAX clusters, a 2 minute outage while the cluster	 > handles-I > > the loss of a member may make no difference at all, if the cluster is  > being1A > > used for simulation or batched financial transactions, but itp
 > may lead toaG > > catastrophic failure if it's monitoring a real-time control system.@ >nE > A good explaination of why using one number to describe the failurecK > characteristics of a system is problematic.  RAS really is three numbers,iL > though you can compute the third from any two of the others.  Just knowingL > Reliability (MTBF), or Availability (% uptime) doesn't distinguish betweenC > the two situations you described above, but if you have these twot > (or one ofL > the two plus the third - Servicability or MTTR), you can distinguish them.H > And you are right, therre are some applications where each is the most > important. >  > -- >  - Stephen Fuld - >    e-mail address disguised to prevent spam  >1 >/   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 19:42:22 GMT + From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>)  Subject: Re: Blade architectures) Message-ID: <u3cy71ejx.fsf@earthlink.net>A  - Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:,E > The DBMS vendors that used/supported the HA/CMP DLM had descriptionoE > and it was fairly straight-forward stuff. I believe that these samenC > DBMS vendors had been making the same suggestions for a number ofn > years to the original makers.e  7 slightly related from 80s (vax thread drift in a.f.c.):vF http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#74 Computers in Science FictionF http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002e.html#75 Computers in Science FictionF http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/200wf.html#0  Computers in Science Fiction  E various quotes/pieces from dec professional 1/88, pg 44, "OLTP on thes@ VAXcluster" (i started work on HA/CMP DLM prototype not too long later):n  < Digital offers the VAXcluster as an easily managed computing? environment that gives incremental expandability, extensive andeE flexible resource sharing, highly available resources, extensive data D storage flexible configurations and support for balanced interactiveF workloads.  However, the cluster's Distributed Lock Manager introducesB overhead that can make this environment unsuitable for high-volumeE transaction processing.  It is possible for application software (and E I assume that Sybase incorporated these ideas into their database) toi9 eliminate this overhead penalty and permit the successfult6 implementation of OLTP applications on the VAXcluster.  F 1.  The  benefit of expandability, however, is offset substantially by/     the overhead imposed by the cluster itself.d  F 2.  Lock management may be as much as 20% for each  processor  in  theF     cluster,  reducing the actual throughput achieved to approximately+     80% for each additional cluster member.o  F 3.  One RDBMS vendor (Sybase?) estimates that the VAXCLUSTER software,F     using the Lock Manager for all remote locks in a two-CPU  cluster,F     might achieve a throughput gain of 1.8 for a select (READ?) trans-F     action  and only 1.3 for a short update transaction over that of a     single CPU.o  F 4.  Lock management also makes recovery unacceptably lengthy  for  ap-2     plications requiring high system availability.  F     When  a cluster node fails, processors on all nodes stop until theF     VMS connection manager re-establishes a quorum.   Then,  the  Dis-F     tributed  Lock  Manager  must release all locks held by the failedF     process, re-establish the Resource Manager for all resources  heldF     by  the  failed  processor,  and re-establish the local and remoteF     lock databases for each resource in use at the time of  the  fail-F     ure.  While this activity is in progress, all nodes in the cluster     are unavailableR  F     Recovery  time  for  the  cluster is proportional to the number of7     locks in use and may take 5 to 8 minutes or longer.   < Because the Lock Manager is responsible for these drawbacks,E application software that reduces its overhead is required to provide  an environment for OLTP.  D A DBMS that can run as a efficient database machine on one processorE in a cluster can eliminate a great deal of overhead.  This requires ad requester/server architecture:  F *   The server must run as a single process on a  dedicated  processorF     with  its  own memory management and memory resident locking mech-
     anism,  F *   The server must manage data for all users with one dedicated imageF     and one shared data cache so hundreds of users can be  handled  in     4-6 Mbytes of storage,  3 *   The applications would run on other processors.t  D The requester/server architecture in a VAX cluster has the following	 benefits:h  F *   A server running as  a  single  process  doesn't  require  context     switching,  5 *   Its own memory management eliminates page faults,P  * *   A shared data cache minimizes disk I/O  F *   Because  all  data is managed by a single server on one processor,F     locking can be handled simply by reading  and  updating  a  memoryF     resident  table.    Memory resident lock management eliminates theE     VMS locks that the Lock Manager establishes for concurrent users.t   -- lH Anne & Lynn Wheeler   | lynn@garlic.com -  http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 17:01:34 -08000 From: Go-To-Canada.com <office@Go-To-Canada.com>  Subject: Canada Immigration NewsI Message-ID: <20020407210315.DZDU29105.tomts6-srv.bellnexxia.net@b1tzzt63>r   <html>0 <!-- #BeginTemplate "/Templates/blue_pl.dwt" --> <head>" <!-- #BeginEditable "doctitle" -->  <title>Untitled Document</title> <!-- #EndEditable --> H <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-2">! <script language="Javascript1.2">s <!--d message = "Sorry. The right click is  disabled in this site. We appologize for the inconvenience. 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         </tr>n         <tr>           <td> <font color="#FFFFFF"><a name="two"></a>.</font> <font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#0000FF"><span class="justify"><b><font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#0000FF"><span class="justify"><b><font color="#0000CC"><img src="http://www.go-to-canada.com/news/sam.jpg" width="107" height="40" align="left"></font></b></span></font></font></font></font></b></span></font><font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="justify"><font color="#0000FF" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><b><font size="2">Historie             Sama<br>             </font></b></font><font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#0000FF"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="justify"><b>SameT             przyjecha niedawno do Kanady. onaty, dwoje dzieci, prbuje zaadaptowa             si w nowej rzeczywsitoci.</b></span></font></font><font size="2" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span class="justify">tz             </span></font></font></span></font></font></font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">3M             dni temu Sam kupi swj pierwszy samochd. By to pikny, uywanysO             niebieski Chevrolet. Kiedy poszed zarejstrowa go w biurze policjifR             otrzyma tylko jedn tablic rejestracyjn. Zaskoczony zapyta kobietj             w okienku dlaczego? </font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"> <br>-N             Prosz Pana, jeli Pan nie zauway, wszystkie samochody w Quebecu             maj tylko jedn tablic rejestracyjn - z tyu. Takie jest prawo.</font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">NaiP             ulicy Sam rozejrza si uwanie i zauway, e rzeczywicie wszystkiV             samochody i ciarwki miay tylko tyln tablic rejestracyjn. NastpnegoS             dnia, wyposaony we wszystkie dokumenty i polisy ubezpieczeniowe zaczlM             przemierza ulice Montrealu. Miasto byo ogromne, odlegoci te, S             nawet samochody byy ogromne. Jego Chevrolet mia automatyczn skrzynimQ             biegw i prowadzio si go lekko jak d. Sam wczy radio. Zapaliod             nawet papierosa.</font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><br>-w             Ech Kanada, westchn uradowany Sam.</font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">JegoiN             marzenia przerwaa syrena policyjna. Tu za nim samochd policyjnyQ             dawa mu znaki, aby si zatrzyma. Sam zatrzyma si, wyczy silniki             i wysiad z samochodu. Z gonikw samochodu rozleg sie donony gos:<br></font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1">-N             Prosz zosta w samochodzie i czeka! &quot;O co chodzi?&quot; SamM             by zdumiony. Po 5 min. oczekiwania podszed do niego policjant waq             okularach przeciwsonecznych:</font><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><br>-iD             Panie Hassan Houari, mog prosi o Pana prawo jazdy?<br>N             - Tak, oczywicie, Sam by zdenerwowany. Skd znaj moje nazwisko?-             Poda dokumenty policjantowi.<br>hN             - Prosz Pana, nie posiada Pan prawa jazdy wydanego w Quebecu!<br>H             - Tak, ale mam prawo jazdy wydane w moim kraju, oto one!<br>.             Policjant zerkn na dokument.<br>O             - Nie jest po francusku... ani po angielsku. Skd mog wiedzie, erN             to prawo jazdy a nie Pana karta z biblioteki. Powinien Pan mie ze!             sob tumaczenie.<br>a3             - OK. Przetumacz je. To wszystko?<br>eN             - Nie prosz Pana, skrci Pan w lewo na ulicy, a to niedozwolone.<             Otrzymuje Pan mandat w wysokoci 40 dolarw.<br>6             Zrezygnowany, Sam wycign portfel...<br>N             - Nie, nie musi Pan nam paci. Wpisz Pana mandat w komputer przyN             Pana numerze rejestracyjnym i powinien Pan go zapaci w ratuszu wV             cigu 30 dni. Moe Pan przysa czek poczt, lub zapaci kart kredytow,M             lub przez telefon. To wszystko. ycz miego dnia i prosz uwaa              na siebie!<br>Q             Policjant odszed. &quot;Skd znali moje nazwisko? Jak zapaci przezaN             telefon, jakie tumaczenie...&quot; Sam zadawa sobie pytania.<br>#             - Ech, Kanada...</font>e <p></p>              <p align="center"><font color="#0000CC" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><b><a href="#top"><font color="#0000CC" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="1"><b>Top</b></font>oy               <img src="http://www.go-to-canada.com/news/arrow.gif" width="14" height="14" border="0"></a></b></font></p>s           </td>l
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   </table> </div> </body>r <!-- #EndTemplate -->o </html>    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 17:13:58 -0400b& From: Mickalide <mickalide@empire.net> Subject: Re: CMS library repair ' Message-ID: <3CB0B696.30809@empire.net>   & --------------0002010407060201060403069 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowedj Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  G In CMS V4.1  a new control field was added. After upgrading you should fF do a ver/rep twice. The first time should indicate repair errors, the G 2nd should come out clean. I  have not seen the following error before tF on an upgrade.  But there have been several BLKSTR errors on releases L prior to V4.1 which may account for the error on libraries previous to this.  @ >> CMS-E-ERRVER2, internal contiguous space verified with errorsD >> -CMS-E-MSSBLKSTR, 4 35 type blocks found on pass 1, and 1 blocks  >> found on pass 26 >> %CMS-E-ERRVERCON, control file verified with errors     -Jim-           &  However, the library still seems to "       Stanley F. Quayle wrote:  M >>Running different versions of software on a shared database is (in general)f >>a bad practice., >> >iD >I hadn't really thought about it as a shared database.  But you're  >100% correct. >iN >>Which CMS version are you using for VERIFY/REPAIR?  If it's 3.X then yes theK >>upgrade might "fix" the library.  If it's 4.X then you probably corruptedcM >>the library with 3.X and upgrading won't fix it but it will prevent similar  >>corruptions in the future. >> >r@ >I run the repair with V4.1, which is where I first noticed the > >problem.  If I do the repair twice, the problems go away and  >everything appears normal.k >rC >Are you saying that I should repair the libraries with 3.X first, sB >then upgrade to 4.1?  Or just jump ahead to 4.1 and hope for the F >best?  And what sort of symptoms would I expect with a corrupted CMS 	 >library?S >  >j >--Stan Quayle" >President, Quayle Consulting Inc. >o >---------- H >Stanley F. Quayle, P.E.   N8SQ   +1 614-868-1363   Fax: +1 614 868-16712 >8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147> >Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com       http://www.stanq.com >b >     & --------------000201040706020106040306) Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bita   <html> <head> </head>P <body>N In CMS V4.1&nbsp; a new control field was added. After upgrading you should doM a ver/rep twice. The first time should indicate repair errors, the 2nd shouldnO come out clean. I &nbsp;have not seen the following error before on an upgrade. O &nbsp;But there have been several BLKSTR errors on releases prior to V4.1 which < may account for the error on libraries previous to this.<br>S <pre wrap="">&gt;&gt; CMS-E-ERRVER2, internal contiguous space verified with errors0J &gt;&gt; -CMS-E-MSSBLKSTR, 4 35 type blocks found on pass 1, and 1 blocks  &gt;&gt; found on pass 2 &gt;&gt; %CMS-E-ERRVERCON, control file verified with errors<br><br><br>-Jim-<br><br><br><br><br><br>&nbsp;However, the library still seems to "</pre> <br> <br> Stanley F. Quayle wrote:<br>B <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:3CAF1A39.1384.5E2A1B@localhost">   <blockquote type="cite">y     <pre wrap="">Running different versions of software on a shared database is (in general)<br>a bad practice.<br></pre>n     </blockquote>a~     <pre wrap=""><!----><br>I hadn't really thought about it as a shared database.  But you're <br>100% correct.<br><br></pre>     <blockquote type="cite">#      <pre wrap="">Which CMS version are you using for VERIFY/REPAIR?  If it's 3.X then yes the<br>upgrade might "fix" the library.  If it's 4.X then you probably corrupted<br>the library with 3.X and upgrading won't fix it but it will prevent similar<br>corruptions in the future.<br></pre>        </blockquote>f       <pre wrap=""><!----><br>I run the repair with V4.1, which is where I first noticed the <br>problem.  If I do the repair twice, the problems go away and <br>everything appears normal.<br><br>Are you saying that I should repair the libraries with 3.X first, <br>then upgrade to 4.1?  Or just jump ahead to 4.1 and hope for the <br>best?  And what sort of symptoms would I expect with a corrupted CMS <br>library?<br><br><br>--Stan Quayle<br>President, Quayle Consulting Inc.<br><br>----------<br>Stanley F. QIuayle, P.E.   N8SQ   +1 614-868-1363   Fax: +1 614 868-1671<br>8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147<br>Preferred address:  <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:stan@stanq.com">stan@stanq.com</a>       <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.stanq.com">http://www.stanq.com</a><br><br><br></pre>        </blockquote>c
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       </html>w  ( --------------000201040706020106040306--   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 00:10:02 GMTy& From: keeling@spots.ab.ca (s. keeling)Y Subject: Re: Even lookin at the previous message shows up as a JS virus, lucky Norton cau 8 Message-ID: <slrnab1nve.3rh.keeling@infidel.spots.ab.ca>  @ On Wed, 03 Apr 2002 04:20:23 GMT, ray1234 <ray1234@hotmail.com>:. > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > - > ------=_NextPart_000_00CC_01C1DB66.568C58B0: > Content-Type: text/plain; > 	charset="iso-8859-1" - > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printabler > C > http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/dyn/22614.htmlc > = >   "CloudBuster" <CloudBuster@AMP.Usenet> wrote in message =o: > news:p2qq8.1220$ja.88657@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...J >   Sometimes, go live a puddle! 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Contract programmer, server bum.1                 Give up Spammers; I use procmail.=D How to quote: http://learn.to/quote (Ger.) http://quote.6x.to (Eng.)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2002 09:00:31 -0500z* From: yyyc186@illegaltospam.mindspring.com/ Subject: Re: Generating MMS files with Decset ? ; Message-ID: <3caeff94$1$lllp186$mr2ice@nntp.mindspring.com>m  - In <3CA0D002.20301@skynet.be>, on 03/26/2002  E    at 08:46 PM, Christophe Evrard <christophe.evrard@skynet.be> said:"  J MMS used to have something internally that could be used to generate these- files, but I haven't tried it in a long time.      Roland   >Hello,   E >The software we manage consists in 7000 configuration items (Cobol,  $ >copybooks) resulting in 800 images.: >The CI reside in CMS, and we use MMS to build the images.F >So far, we use a "home-made" tool (written in TPU) to create the .MMSE >files. Is there a tool from Decset (SCA ?) that can provide the samey >service ? Regards >Christophe.   -- k; -----------------------------------------------------------s yyyc186@mindspring.com; -----------------------------------------------------------c   ------------------------------    Date: 07 Apr 2002 14:38:02 -07003 From: Eric Smith <eric-no-spam-for-me@brouhaha.com>=  Subject: Re: IA64 is not the VAX0 Message-ID: <qhwuvjp4ud.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com>  - Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU> writes:iI > On the other hand, there is Lingling, which I believe to be the fastestaG > TOPS-20 system ever at 15x KL speed (about the equivalent of a 45 MHz&J > Intel) and put together for a cost of about $750.  I imagine that with aJ > more suitable hardware base (the microcode incurs a 33x performance hit,H > which is actually pretty good -- 100x is considered more typical of an2 > emulator), we could have a real kick-ass system.  F While it is certainly true that a state-of-the-art (or nearly so) ASICF implementation could be much faster than a simulator running on an x86> (or even an Alpha, Power4, etc.), it's not clear that the sameE proposition would be true for an FPGA-based design.  The latter would"E clearly be more cycle efficient, but it would be difficult to get itsnH cycle time better than 20 ns, vs. under 0.42 ns for a current P4 or 0.58F ns for a current Athlon.  This means that the FPGA would have to be onC average 34x more cycle-efficient than the simulator on an Athlon innE order to have better performance.  With enough work it could be done,)* but the payoff is too small to justify it.  G And by the time the FPGA solution was designed and tested, AMD would beeD shipping Clawhammer parts at over 2 GHz which will run the simulatorF even faster due to having more registers and native 64-bit operations.  G FPGAs get faster too, but they aren't on as steep of a curve, and thereUE isn't as much compatability from one generation of FPGAs to the next.rD There's compatability at the Verilog or VHDL level, but that doesn'tE get you any guarantee of performance scaling - you have to reoptimize H the design and placement for each new family of FPGAs, or you won't gainD much.  By way of comparison, the latest P4 and Athlon processors can( still run 8086 code dating back to 1978.  F Trying to use special-purpose hardware to compete with general purposeH CPUs is like trying to run in front of a steamroller.  You might be ableD to do it for a short while, but you're going to get tired before the< steamroller does.  This is why LISP machines were ultimately
 unsuccessful.   B Of course, I'd be delighted if any of the people currently working* on FPGA PDP-10s would prove me wrong.  :-)   Eric   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 04:06:38 GMT,' From: "David G. Conroy" <dgc@spies.com>   Subject: Re: IA64 is not the VAXB Message-ID: <iH8s8.2687$YG5.1285341292@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>  9 I agree with Eric that beating a good emulator running on I a state-of-the-art processor with an FPGA based design would be somewheree< between difficult and impossible. The sea of general-purposeB lookup tables and flip-flops are not always what you want, and the FPGA wiring is terribly slow.   9 My FPGA design isn't even trying to be fast; I'm buildingsJ it more to sit on the table beside the FPGA versions of the DEC 12-bit andC 18-bit machines which are already done. As such, it's a very simplea; design, with an 18-bit datapath explicitly double-pumped bytG fairly vertical microcode. It current does JRST . at about 3.5 MIPS andeI continuous blocks of something like ADD at about 2 MIPS, but I'm about to== change the microcode format a little to improve the access to=D memory operands which are in an AC, to make the instruction dispatchK faster, and to make returning to instruction fetch and dispatch essentiallyi8 free. The 18-bit datapath isn't as terrible as you mightH think, except for things like multiple and divide; the 72-bit shifts are! a little wordy, so say the least.n   dgc=  
 ----------; In article <qhwuvjp4ud.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com>, Eric Smith ) <eric-no-spam-for-me@brouhaha.com> wrote:r    / > Mark Crispin <mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU> writes: J >> On the other hand, there is Lingling, which I believe to be the fastestH >> TOPS-20 system ever at 15x KL speed (about the equivalent of a 45 MHzK >> Intel) and put together for a cost of about $750.  I imagine that with a,K >> more suitable hardware base (the microcode incurs a 33x performance hit,aI >> which is actually pretty good -- 100x is considered more typical of an3 >> emulator), we could have a real kick-ass system.r >aH > While it is certainly true that a state-of-the-art (or nearly so) ASICH > implementation could be much faster than a simulator running on an x86@ > (or even an Alpha, Power4, etc.), it's not clear that the sameG > proposition would be true for an FPGA-based design.  The latter would G > clearly be more cycle efficient, but it would be difficult to get itssJ > cycle time better than 20 ns, vs. under 0.42 ns for a current P4 or 0.58H > ns for a current Athlon.  This means that the FPGA would have to be onE > average 34x more cycle-efficient than the simulator on an Athlon inaG > order to have better performance.  With enough work it could be done,t, > but the payoff is too small to justify it. >rI > And by the time the FPGA solution was designed and tested, AMD would be F > shipping Clawhammer parts at over 2 GHz which will run the simulatorH > even faster due to having more registers and native 64-bit operations. > I > FPGAs get faster too, but they aren't on as steep of a curve, and thereiG > isn't as much compatability from one generation of FPGAs to the next.gF > There's compatability at the Verilog or VHDL level, but that doesn'tG > get you any guarantee of performance scaling - you have to reoptimizedJ > the design and placement for each new family of FPGAs, or you won't gainF > much.  By way of comparison, the latest P4 and Athlon processors can* > still run 8086 code dating back to 1978. >tH > Trying to use special-purpose hardware to compete with general purposeJ > CPUs is like trying to run in front of a steamroller.  You might be ableF > to do it for a short while, but you're going to get tired before the> > steamroller does.  This is why LISP machines were ultimately > unsuccessful.f > D > Of course, I'd be delighted if any of the people currently working, > on FPGA PDP-10s would prove me wrong.  :-) >3 > Eric   ------------------------------    Date: 07 Apr 2002 14:03:36 -07003 From: Eric Smith <eric-no-spam-for-me@brouhaha.com>f2 Subject: Re: Predictions - just for the hell of it0 Message-ID: <qh6633ql07.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com>  , Ben Franchuk <bfranchuk@jetnet.ab.ca> wrote:J > What stands out to me was the fact the fact that DEC's PC did not come aF > floppy disk format program. You had to Buy DEC's pre-formated disks.  / djweath@attglobal.net (Dave Weatherall) writes: H > Really? my Rainbow did - for both CP/M and, eventually, domessdos. Do  > you mean the VaxMate?   G Yes, but that was the *ONLY* product they made that could format floppy<H discs, up until they started making true PC clones.  Before the Rainbow,D they made dozens of different products with floppy drives, and AFAIKD *NONE* of them could format the diskettes.  And some of the productsF after the Rainbow couldn't either.  Even their other PC-class productsF contemporary with the Rainbow, the Professional and the DECmate, could not format diskettes.   E Hmmmm...  was the Robin (VT-180) able to format diskettes?  If so, it 1 might have been the first DEC product that could.e   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Apr 2002 22:50:59 -0600 + From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)g% Subject: Re: Problem with Shadow Copyn3 Message-ID: <RSRKQk6mF0BS@eisner.encompasserve.org>   P In article <3CB079F3.CA0E25AF@cha.ab.ca>, Lee Y T Mah <lytmah@cha.ab.ca> writes:   Lee,  9 	Spending no time doing some normal digging, so all below  	is via aging memory (mine).  H >     Six nodes in cluster - Four AS1200's at VMS 7.1-2, one ES45 at VMS& > 7.3, one VAXstation 4000 at VMS 7.3.F >     Two AS1200's, two HSJ40's, two HSJ50's, one star coupler in each	 > center.dB >     Four as1200's patched with VMS712_SHADOWING V5.0 22-FEB-2002 > 14:13:31.  One vote each. H >     ES45 patched with VMS73_SHADOWING V2.0 plus twelve latest patches.
 > No vote.< >     VAXstation 4000 patched with VAXSHAD01_073.  One vote.E >     Approx. fifty-two shadow sets in cluster, with a member in eachi	 > center.p > E > The problem shadow set is DSA659.  It has a shadow member DUA559 in>' > center 1.  The other shadow member is>B > DUA659 in data center 2.  Each drive is dual-pathed to a pair of- > HSJ40's.  The HSJ40's are each connected tobI > their local star coupler.  The presence of the fast ES45 in the clusterf) > has caused a CI saturation problem.  TodG > overcome this problem, the AS1200's CIPCA firmware has been upgraded.t% > In addition, Compaq has recommended H > changing the parameter CI_ARBITRATION on all HSJ's from SYNCHRONOUS to > ASYNCHRONOUS.  :    C 	Pretty certain you have this backwards.  Compaq support recommends-B 	all HSJs be set to SYNCHRONOUS if Alphas are talking to the HSJs.     > ThisH > involves moving all drives off one HSJ to its twin, setting the HSJ to, > SYNC, and then rebooting it.  On 04-Apr-02F > I moved eleven 9.1GB drives off HSJM04 to HSJM05, made the change to > SYNC, and rebooted the HSJ. J > I had restored six of the drives back to HSJM04 (now with CI_ARBITRATION > set to SYNC) when I noticedl    5 	This seems to confirm you are moving to SYNCHRONOUS.b    G > the constant mount verifications occurring, including those for otheri/ > shadow sets on drives dual-pathed to HSJ50's.oG > I also noticed that during this time, drive DUA559 had dropped out ofO  > shadow set DSA659.  I made twoH > attempts at shadow-copying DUA559 back into DSA659 but had no success." > In all this time, constant mountF > verifications had degraded user response greatly, to the extent that- > some user were kicked right off the system.gH > I succeeded in changing the HSJ40 back to ASYNC.  Two more attempts at > shadow-copying DUA559 failed.EH > Eventually, user response returned to normal.  I then started a shadow' > copy with a replacement drive (DUA578cI > on an HSJ50) to shadow set DSA659 with no problem on the first attempt.iG > Suspecting DUA559 to be defective and the cause of my problems, I hadw! > Compaq swap out DUA559 Saturday J > morning.  I initialized the new drive with no problem, filled it up, and% > put it through an ANALYZE/DISK/READhI > for two hours with no problems.  In fact, drive DUA559 has had an errorO$ > count of zero throughout all this.D > Shadow set DSA659 was now comprised of DUA578 in data center 1 and$ > DUA659 in data center 2.  My plansG > were to add the new DUA559 back into the shadow set as a third memberu" > and then remove DUA578 after the > shadow copy completed.I > At 12:30, I initiated the shadow copy.  At 12:35, VMS acknowledged this@ > in OPERATOR.LOG.  At 12:38,qG > the shadow copy aborted.  During this eight-minute window, continuouse$ > mount verifications were occurringH > and users were complaining about being hung.  Subsequent investigation' > revealed that the shadow copy aborteduD > at LBN 0, drive DUA559 had been marked as a shadow member, but the$ > volume label was still the same as5 > when I initialized it before doing the shadow copy.e > 
 > Summary:H >     Five attempts at shadow copying DUA559 into shadow set DSA659 have% > failed with the same errors several G >     minutes after starting.  Four times as a second member, once as ai( > third member with a replacement drive.E >     I was able to create a single-member shadow set DSA959 with the1 > replacement drive.G >     Since the problems began with DUA559, I have been able to performs! > two shadow copies successfully.r- >         - drive DUA578 to shadow set DSA659". >         - drive DUA678 to shadow set DSA639. >   : 	dua559 went back into the same slot in the BA?  Maybe you; 	have a bent pin in the slot.  I had a problem with a drivee2 	and sure enough, a pin was bent sideways.  The FE; 	got in there with a set of needle nosed pliers and bent it 7 	back.  Drives work a lot better when pins aren't bent.   9 	Sounds from reading like it could be hardware related as>6 	you mention with DSA659 , dua559 is the common thing,) 	but I am reading quickly and it is late./    : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   4-APR-2002 17:33:41.98  %%%%%%%%%%%3 >     (from node K      at  4-APR-2002 17:33:42.48)  > Message from user SYSTEM on Kn; > %SHADOW_SERVER-I-SSRVINICPY, initiating copy operation onuA >  _DSA659: at LBN: 0, I/O size: 127 blocks, ID number: 07000724.b > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   4-APR-2002 17:37:16.40  %%%%%%%%%%%3 >     (from node K      at  4-APR-2002 17:37:16.89)  > Message from user SYSTEM on KsD > %SHADOW_SERVER-E-SSRVTERMCPY, terminating copy operation on device+ >  _DSA659: at LBN: 0, ID number: 07000724.  > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   4-APR-2002 17:37:16.41  %%%%%%%%%%%3 >     (from node K      at  4-APR-2002 17:37:16.90)r > Message from user SYSTEM on KeE > %SHADOW_SERVER-E-SSRVTRMSTS, reason for termination of operation on, > device >  _DSA659: ABORT, abort > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   4-APR-2002 17:43:22.64  %%%%%%%%%%%3 >     (from node J      at  4-APR-2002 17:43:22.61)a > Message from user SYSTEM on Jn; > %SHADOW_SERVER-I-SSRVINICPY, initiating copy operation onx@ > _DSA659: at LBN: 0, I/O size: 127 blocks, ID number: 2A000721. > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   4-APR-2002 17:47:01.88  %%%%%%%%%%%3 >     (from node J      at  4-APR-2002 17:47:01.86)- > Message from user SYSTEM on J-D > %SHADOW_SERVER-E-SSRVTERMCPY, terminating copy operation on device+ >  _DSA659: at LBN: 0, ID number: 2A000721.r > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   4-APR-2002 17:47:01.89  %%%%%%%%%%%3 >     (from node J      at  4-APR-2002 17:47:01.86)  > Message from user SYSTEM on J E > %SHADOW_SERVER-E-SSRVTRMSTS, reason for termination of operation onf > device >  _DSA659: ABORT, abort > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   4-APR-2002 17:53:43.06  %%%%%%%%%%%3 >     (from node K      at  4-APR-2002 17:53:43.56)r > Message from user SYSTEM on Ks; > %SHADOW_SERVER-I-SSRVINICPY, initiating copy operation ono@ > _DSA659: at LBN: 0, I/O size: 127 blocks, ID number: 07000724. > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   4-APR-2002 17:56:38.13  %%%%%%%%%%%3 >     (from node K      at  4-APR-2002 17:56:38.63)i > Message from user SYSTEM on KeD > %SHADOW_SERVER-E-SSRVTERMCPY, terminating copy operation on device+ >  _DSA659: at LBN: 0, ID number: 07000724.n > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   4-APR-2002 17:56:38.13  %%%%%%%%%%%3 >     (from node K      at  4-APR-2002 17:56:38.63)t > Message from user SYSTEM on KDE > %SHADOW_SERVER-E-SSRVTRMSTS, reason for termination of operation onp > device >  _DSA659: ABORT, abort > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   4-APR-2002 18:05:02.23  %%%%%%%%%%%3 >     (from node K      at  4-APR-2002 18:05:02.74)u > Message from user SYSTEM on Ky; > %SHADOW_SERVER-I-SSRVINICPY, initiating copy operation on @ > _DSA659: at LBN: 0, I/O size: 127 blocks, ID number: 07000724. > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   4-APR-2002 18:08:39.16  %%%%%%%%%%%3 >     (from node K      at  4-APR-2002 18:08:39.14)s > Message from user SYSTEM on KpD > %SHADOW_SERVER-E-SSRVTERMCPY, terminating copy operation on device* > _DSA659: at LBN: 0, ID number: 07000724. > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   4-APR-2002 18:08:39.16  %%%%%%%%%%%3 >     (from node K      at  4-APR-2002 18:08:39.14)0 > Message from user SYSTEM on K E > %SHADOW_SERVER-E-SSRVTRMSTS, reason for termination of operation on  > device >  _DSA659: ABORT, abort > 7 > Has anyone else encountered this shadow copy problem?1   	No.  G > Is there a SYSGEN parameter that disallows adding a third member to as
 > shadow set?"   	No.  7 > If so, perhaps it got changed during recent Autogens.eD > The AS1200 nodes at VMS 7.1-2 have had thirteen patches since late > Feb/2002, so perhaps( > one of them affected volume shadowing.G > There are other avenues I can try, but I want to avoid doing any moree > shadow copy attemptsG > unless absolute necessarily, since I don't want to put our 24x7 users  > through any more discomfort. > D > It seems that since including the new ES45 into the clustering and > applying the thirteen patches-@ > to the AS1200's, the cluster has not been as stable as before. >     < 	Let us know what you find out.  I would go on  DSNlink and ; 	pour through all the patches and make sure you didn't miss4< 	anything.  Also, since that ES45 is at 7.3... that makes meB 	nervous.  Your configuration is a MIGRATION configuration (again,? 	not looking but using aging core memroy) with 7.1-2 and 7.3 int
 	the cluster.o   				Robt   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 22:45:02 GMTe# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>nY Subject: Re: Regarding Hewlett- Packard's request to dismiss a lawsuit challenging the Co H Message-ID: <OZ3s8.21454$Oo1.17485@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  ) Court Delays Ruling on Lawsuit Against HPc( Last Updated: April 07, 2002 04:16 PM ET    J NEW YORK (Reuters) - A Delaware court on Sunday said it would issue in theK next few days a ruling on whether it will throw out a lawsuit filed againsts= Hewlett-Packard Co. by dissident board member Walter Hewlett.t  G Hewlett, who is fighting HP's acquisition of competitor Compaq ComputeriH Corp., asked the Delaware Chancery Court at the end of March to stop theH deal, alleging that HP management bought votes and misled a key adviser.  J HP, which believes it won a March 19 shareholder vote on the deal, in turnK on April 1 asked the Delaware court, which specializes in corporate law, tol dismiss the suit.v  J A spokeswoman for Walter Hewlett, who owns an HP stake through the WilliamG R. Hewlett Revocable Trust said, "We're grateful the court took up thisdJ issue on such short notice and we await a court ruling and in the meantime( discovery on the complaints is ongoing."  G The spokeswoman said the court would issue a ruling in the coming days.   H Chancellor William Chandler III considered the motion in a court hearing+ that began Sunday morning at 9:30 a.m. EDT.r  J HP spokeswoman Judy Radlinsky said the hearing lasted about two and a half hours.  L "HP is pleased that the chancellor listened carefully to our argument and weJ look forward to his decision," said Radlinsky. "We continue to believe theL allegations are without merit and we remain confident that we will prevail."  G The lawsuit is now due to go to trial in the Delaware court starting onpL April 23. The judge has reserved three days for the trial, although it could
 go longer.  K In addition to the lawsuit's outcome, the companies are waiting for a final L tally of HP shareholders votes, which should be ready in the next few weeks.  E If HP and Compaq merge, it would be the largest technology deal ever, L creating a technology giant that HP Chief Executive Carly Fiorina says wouldL be better able to compete with No. 1 computer company International Business Machines Corp.  H Walter Hewlett has opposed the merger for months, assembling a coalitionH that includes other members of the Hewlett and Packard families who alsoG believed the deal would dilute the value of HP's printing franchise andi> saddle it with Compaq's low-profit personal computer business.  G Hewlett's suit alleges that HP effectively bribed one of its investors,iI Deutsche Bank, with business and coerced it to vote for the deal. It alsotI says that HP mislead shareholders on the progress of the merger planning.8  I HP has called the suit baseless. It also has said that it doesn't plan toi- renominate Hewlett to its board of directors.b   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 19:25:12 GMTn- From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network>a' Subject: Re: SCSI Raid options for DS10e* Message-ID: <3CB09EBC.3080702@qsl.network>   Larry Kilgallen wrote: >   E > While it was not on Rich's list of requirements, for some of us theuE > ability to do SCSI clustering is important in such adapters.   HighdE > reliability requirements are not necessarily associated with largeru! > configurations, and vice versa.s  A I do not know what specific non-raid adapters are in development.t  H For the backplane raid adapters, accessing the raid disks from multiple C hosts concurently is not on any of the roadmaps that I am aware of.r   -John> wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Onlyh   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 22:59:49 +0300) From: "Iris Green" <iris.green@intel.com> % Subject: Security audit tools for VMS * Message-ID: <a8q8fn$38h@news.or.intel.com>   Hi all,(  F I am looking for a security tool, that will audit periodically our VMS	 clusters;x  Do you have any recommandations?   Thanks,o
 Iris Green   Email : Iris.green@intel.com  H "Now, Here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in theH same place. If you want to get elsewhere, you must run at least twice as fast as that."  + (Through the Looking Glass - Lewis Carroll)a   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 17:27:50 -0400+ From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@Compaq.com> ) Subject: RE: Security audit tools for VMSeT Message-ID: <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF401AB1E43@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>   Iris,s  F >>> I am looking for a security tool, that will audit periodically our1 VMS clusters; Do you have any recommandations?<<<h  F As a suggestion, I would highly recommend evaluating the products from PointSecure:  
 Reference: http://www.pointsecure.com' http://www.pointsecure.com/product.html,2 http://www.pointsecure.com/images/openvmstimes.pdf  D If you'd like, email me offline and I will forward the contact info.   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior ConsultantP Compaq Canada Corp.u Professional Servicese Voice: 613-592-4660r Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com     -----Original Message-----1 From: Iris Green [mailto:iris.green@intel.com]=20  Sent: April 7, 2002 4:00 PMu To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comi% Subject: Security audit tools for VMSi     Hi all,e  F I am looking for a security tool, that will audit periodically our VMS* clusters; Do you have any recommandations?   Thanks,l
 Iris Green   Email : Iris.green@intel.com  H "Now, Here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in theH same place. If you want to get elsewhere, you must run at least twice as fast as that."  + (Through the Looking Glass - Lewis Carroll)e   ------------------------------   Date: 7 Apr 2002 20:03:09 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)h) Subject: Re: Security audit tools for VMS 3 Message-ID: <mmxSJu6I2403@eisner.encompasserve.org>r  V In article <a8q8fn$38h@news.or.intel.com>, "Iris Green" <iris.green@intel.com> writes:  H > I am looking for a security tool, that will audit periodically our VMS > clusters; " > Do you have any recommandations?    I am partial to LJK/Security :-)  ( Follow the trail from http://www.ljk.com   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 23:11:20 -0400+ From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@Compaq.com>e) Subject: RE: Security audit tools for VMStT Message-ID: <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4016CED5A@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>  ' >>> I am partial to LJK/Security :-)<<<t   Hey !h  $ Now, how did I forget those folks ??   :-)o  : Will definitely add to my list of suggestions in future ..   Regardsn  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultantn Compaq Canada Corp.y Professional ServicesN Voice: 613-592-4660a Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com     -----Original Message-----7 From: Larry Kilgallen [mailto:Kilgallen@SpamCop.net]=20n Sent: April 7, 2002 10:03 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comd) Subject: Re: Security audit tools for VMS8    7 In article <a8q8fn$38h@news.or.intel.com>, "Iris Green"  <iris.green@intel.com> writes:  H > I am looking for a security tool, that will audit periodically our VMS  , > clusters; Do you have any recommandations?    I am partial to LJK/Security :-)  ( Follow the trail from http://www.ljk.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 22:46:35 GMT.# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>o  Subject: Solid State disk drivesH Message-ID: <f%3s8.21456$Oo1.17663@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  H Does anyone here have a recommendation for SSD's that work with OpenVMS?  7 platypus.net has them for Tru64, but no OpenVMS driver.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 21:25:50 -0400H1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>h$ Subject: Re: Solid State disk drives2 Message-ID: <3CB0F19E.1FD0DA9F@firstdbasource.com>   John Smith wrote:  > J > Does anyone here have a recommendation for SSD's that work with OpenVMS? > 9 > platypus.net has them for Tru64, but no OpenVMS driver.h  C At one time there was the ESE series from Digital, and there were aeC number of "look-a-likes" that could not keep up with the "real" eseuG disks.  I had to do some testing because a customer was contending that < something was wrong with OpenVMS because the 3rd-party ESE50G "look-a-like" did not seem to be any faster than an RA71. And using therF "C" program that had timer calls, you could see that the RA71,72 wouldH top out at ~74DIO/sec.  this 3rd-party ESE disk was about ~76DIO/sec andH a real ESE50 was at >250DIO/sec.  We said talk to the vendor. He was notG happy because the real ESE50 was significantly more expensive... but itU also worked :)   --   Regards,  7 Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163 7 First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.comi Sr. Consultant 704-947-1089 (Office)B 704-236-4377 (Mobile)S   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 02:02:59 +00002 From: John Eisenschmidt <jweisen@eisenschmidt.org>$ Subject: Re: Solid State disk drives4 Message-ID: <20020408020259.C12328@eisenschmidt.org>   --0lnxQi9hkpPO77W3* Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inlines+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printablel  L There is (was) a Storage Works Module that contained the Quantum SSD. We te=, sted it and it worked fine under OpenVMS 7.1  7 http://www.eisenschmidt.org/jweisen/misc/ssdtesting.pdft  : It the internal document we wrote to justify the purchase.  8 http://www.eisenschmidt.org/jweisen/misc/disktesting.pdf  + Are the numbers we got in our benchmarking.n  L Just FYI - we ended up with a 4254 Disk shelf full of 10K LVD SCSI drives a=L nd a couple KZPCA-AA controllers to drive them. Most of the controllers tha=L t worked with those shelves couldn't sustain the transfer rate that drive w=L anted. You'd want at least an HSJ-70 I guess. If you dig back in the archiv=L es on Google you'll see the thousands of messages I posted while we were te=% sting and the conclusions we came to.n  
 Good luck, John  B Unless the Voices are Mistaken, John Smith (a@nonymous.com) Wrote:J > Does anyone here have a recommendation for SSD's that work with OpenVMS? >=209 > platypus.net has them for Tru64, but no OpenVMS driver.  >=20   --=201/ John W. Eisenschmidt <jweisen@eisenschmidt.org>e6  Homepage URL    | http://www.eisenschmidt.org/jweisenL  PGP Public Key  | http://www.eisenschmidt.org/jweisen/misc/jeisenschmidt.a= scD  PGP Fingerprint | 5F9B F916 5AD1 3295 CF99 BC1E 1F97 E6A3 37E3 BEF2   --0lnxQi9hkpPO77W3' Content-Type: application/pgp-signatureg Content-Disposition: inlinen   -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----e Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (OpenBSD)m* Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org  @ iD8DBQE8sPpTH5fmozfjvvIRAuGbAJ42HvcbzRfjOYgkTAyAkdHP7OJ24QCbByJG L4/cNdz+XAdmrZOmgftwDHg= =SpYhd -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----l   --0lnxQi9hkpPO77W3--   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 23:41:25 GMT:1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> 9 Subject: Re: Sue, a great promotion for "unhackable" vms!a' Message-ID: <3CB0DBA0.5E21F5AA@fsi.net>i   Bob Ceculski wrote:  > [snip] > I have the) > whole thing laid out, and it's awesome!b  H Likewise, I have about a half-dozen or so such adverts story-boarded and	 scripted.i  C My current favorite is an early one, inspired by a scene from a Tex C Avery cartoon: three red-eyed, very sleepy sysadmins in an elevatorDE complaining and one-upping each other with their laments: one says heeF was up all night, the next says he's been awake for two days straight,F and the third says he's not slept in a week. A fourth gent gets on andD rides a few floors with them - very cheery, chipper and fresh: "goodE moring", very optimistic and all that. He gets off after a short ride H and the others ask themselves, "Why is he so happy and well rested?" OneD of them pipes up and says, "I know why: he manages OpenVMS systems!"F Another says, "Yeah - I'll bet HIS boss sleeps better than ours, too!"   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems2 http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/a   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 16:27:53 -0400: From: "smtest@gussowonline.com" <smgtest@gussowonline.com> Subject: UnsubsribeoD Message-ID: <005201c1de72$b27f26c0$0401a8c0@walngs01.pa.comcast.net>  , This is a multi-part message in MIME format.  + ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C1DE51.2B11F940, Content-Type: text/plain;  	charset="iso-8859-1"4+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableo   unsubscribet  + ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C1DE51.2B11F940  Content-Type: text/html; 	charset="iso-8859-1"o+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable   > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD>7 <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; =. charset=3Diso-8859-1">8 <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.2715.400" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE>x </HEAD>5 <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff>: <DIV><FONT size=3D2>unsubscribe</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>  - ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C1DE51.2B11F940--o   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 07 Apr 2002 15:57:18 -0400 % From: REAGAN <john.reagan@compaq.com>n, Subject: Re: Who has (ever) used DECmigrate?' Message-ID: <3CB0A49E.50803@compaq.com>%   Didier Morandi wrote:7   > Q > Actually, DECmigrate is not only a translator. It has also its own environment.rJ > This TIE is even a qualifier for the PASCAL compiler, to allow generated> > code to be able to call VESTed images (disabled by default). > H > For more on the TIE, see the Alpha Internals and Data Structures book,
 > chapter 29.1  ; Well, I wouldn't go as far as calling TIE an 'environment'.R  I It is nothing more than a set of clever jacket routines that know how to  F map arguments between where they are in relation to the Alpha calling & standard and the VAX calling standard.  E As for the /TIE qualifier in Pascal, each language has the same /TIE  E qualifier (or it should have).  That made the compiler do two things.   H One, it wrote out some signature information to the image that told TIE D how routine arguments would have been done on the VAX as well as on E Alpha.  This let you VEST existing VAX .EXEs that didn't contain any RE description of the routine arguments.  We couldn't 'enhance' the VAX  G compilers to produce additional information in the VAX .EXEs since the %D main purpose of VEST is to translate .EXEs that you didn't have the  source for.M  G Two, for indirect calls to routines, the compiler generate a call to a AD little jacket routine that examine the procedure descriptor for the D target routine.  If the target was translated code, the various TIE + jackets were called to remap the arguments.g   John   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2002 14:08:12 +0930n/ From: Mark Daniel <Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au>0= Subject: Re: Why VMS is "unhackable" lesson 3 ... (follow-up)%. Message-ID: <3CAD2A34.7000308@wasd.vsm.com.au>   Thanks for that Aaron.% Very clear demonstration of the pointS5 (in a sea of what is often ranting personal opinion).e) Can't help thinking of that old aphorism,n* "Unix doesn't stop you doing stupid things1 because that would stop you doing clever things".dD In this case it doesn't stop others doing "clever" things either ;^)  
 ualski wrote:  >  > ualski wrote:  >  >>Tom Linden wrote:n >> >>>>-----Original Message-----3 >>>>From: Bob Ceculski [mailto:bob@instantwhip.com]t+ >>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:46 PMt >>>>To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comn1 >>>>Subject: Why VMS is "unhackable" lesson 3 ...  >>>eJ >>>If the hacker is able to determine the stack frame slot with the returnL >>>address, why couldn't he also modify the stack allocation instruction and@ >>>insert his trojan horse in code space and execute from there? >>J >>It would be difficult to execute instructions to change memory in a codeJ >>space using the described method. Should the cracker (ok, hacker if he'sK >>doing it on his own machine just for fun) somehow gets code to execute ont; >>the stack, executable sections are not usually writeable.n >>M >>Try it with a C program, get a pointer to the entry point of a function andtI >>try to change that first byte.I haven't tried this but you might make a,K >>small array or whatever on the stack, put some code in it and try to call: >>it. My bet is it won't work. >  >  > Just to illustrate my point: > $ >               1 #include <stdio.h> >             874t: >             875 void xyzzy(void) { printf("xyzzy!\n"); } >             876 4 >             877 int main( int argc, char *argv[] ) >       1     878     { + >       1     879         unsigned char *x;u5 >       1     880         x = (unsigned char *)xyzzy;s/ >       1     881         ((void(*)(void))x)(); $ >       1     882         *x = 0x00;$ >       1     883         return(1); >             884     }a >  > when run produces: >  > $ r x  > xyzzy!O > %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=04, virtual address=00000208,d > PC=0000024F, PSL=03C00000i1 > %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump followsuN > module name     routine name                     line       rel PC    abs PC > O > X               main                              882      00000033  0000024Fh > $W > M > Check the attributes of the $CODE section. It's NOWRT and the (empty) $DATAsL > section is NOEXE.  Static variables go in $DATA. I don't know offhand whatL > the stack area looks like but I suspect it's NOEXE too. This boils down toN > what's been said earlier, normally code can't be written over and data can't > be executed. > R > Psect Name      Module Name       Base     End           Length            Align >                 AttributesR > ----------      -----------       ----     ---           ------            ----- >                 ----------Q > $DATA                           00000200 00000200 00000000 (          0.) LONG  6 > 2   PIC,USR,CON,REL,LCL,NOSHR,NOEXE,  RD,  WRT,NOVECS >                 X               00000200 00000200 00000000 (          0.) LONG  2  > Q > $CODE                           00000200 00000271 00000072 (        114.) QUAD .6 > 3   PIC,USR,CON,REL,LCL,  SHR,  EXE,  RD,NOWRT,NOVECS >                 X               00000200 00000271 00000072 (        114.) QUAD  3e >  > -- Aaron Sliwinski   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.193 ************************ant that HP Chief Executive Carly Fiorina says wouldL be better able to compete with No. 1 computer company International Busine@i    Ai    Bi    Ci    Di    Ei    Fi    Gi    Hi    Ii    Ji    Ki    Li    Mi    Ni    Oi    Pi    Qi    Ri    Si    Ti    Ui    Vi    Wi    Xi    Yi    Zi    [i    \i    ]i    ^i    _i    `i    ai    bi    ci    di    ei    fi    gi    hi    ii    ji    ki    li    mi    ni    oi    pi    qi    ri    si    ti    ui    vi    wi    xi    yi    zi    {i    |i    }i    ~i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    Ñi    đi    ői    Ƒi    Ǒi    ȑi    ɑi    ʑi    ˑi    ̑i    ͑i    Αi    ϑi    Бi    ёi    ґi    ӑi    ԑi    Ցi    ֑i    בi    ؑi    ّi    ڑi    ۑi    ܑi    ݑi    ޑi    ߑi    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    i    