1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 05 Aug 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 427       Contents:C Re: Arithmetic Data Corruption - Compaq TCP/IP Services 5.3 and NFS C Re: Arithmetic Data Corruption - Compaq TCP/IP Services 5.3 and NFS  Re: Carl's birthday -- Yea! & Re: device full: wrong error messages? Re: F&A?? Was VAX Hardware ID % Re: Help MRU! Robot is not responding  Hobbyist License Question 3 Re: Marvelous EV7 system available for a test drive < Re: OpenVMS.org, Terry Shannon knows XYZ and Evereybody here< Re: OpenVMS.org, Terry Shannon knows XYZ and Evereybody here< Re: Robust exception handler context in C (well, C++ really)  Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today  Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today  Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today* Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !* Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !* Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !* Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !* Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !* Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !* Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !6 Re: trying to install CPQ java131 on a alpha 250 4/266 Re: uaf  Re: uaf  Re: uaf  RE: uaf  Re: uaf  Re: uaf   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 2002 13:52:18 -0600 - From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) L Subject: Re: Arithmetic Data Corruption - Compaq TCP/IP Services 5.3 and NFS3 Message-ID: <KqD3CVCMdMn$@eisner.encompasserve.org>   P In article <00A11F4D.A24B7FF3@SendSpamHere.ORG>, system@SendSpamHere.ORG writes:P > In article <3D4D5E89.3000700@hp.com>, John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com> writes: >>Paul Repacholi wrote:  >> >>> H >>> This would be a dance with FP, the CRTL and interupt mode perchance? >>>  >> >>The CRTL isn't involved... >>K >>By default, the compiler will sometimes use floating divide instructions  E >>to perform integer division.  It is sometimes faster to convert to  K >>float, do the floating divide, and convert back to integer than to use a  I >>pure integer-only subroutine that loops around generating the result a   >>few bits at a time.  >>J >>To do this optimization, the compiler needs to use a few floating point J >                                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I >>scratch registers (ie, ones that are not normally saved by the calling   >  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>standard).  J > F0, F1 are not defined as "scratch" registers so why should they be used > as scratch registers?    Benchmarks, I would guess.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 01:37:22 GMT & From: John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com>L Subject: Re: Arithmetic Data Corruption - Compaq TCP/IP Services 5.3 and NFS% Message-ID: <3D4DD510.3040900@hp.com>   E The calling standard talks about routines calling routines.  So when  G routine A calls routine B, routine A has to assume that F0 and F1 will  I be modified by B.  You quoted the correct sections highlighting that the  F register may be modified without being saved or restored.  I consider H that a scratch register inside of B.  That is why GEM uses F0/F1.  That  was all I was trying to say.  D As for the FEN, the FEN is only mentioned indirectly in the calling D standard as the CHF$V_FPREGS_VALID flag in the mechanism array.  It D indicates whether the slots in the mechanism array are valid or not.  I Why can't an ISR corrupt the floating regs?  The FEN bit doesn't prevent  I anything.  If the ISR wrote over an active register, then those bits are  
 gone forever.   I As for the process, the right people are taking the necessary action and  F are reviewing other build scripts to check for other cases (none have  been found as far as I know).    --   John Reagan ' Compaq Pascal/{A|I}MACRO Project Leader  Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------    Date: 05 Aug 2002 07:49:39 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>$ Subject: Re: Carl's birthday -- Yea!- Message-ID: <87y9bm4224.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   3 "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:   E > > When Intel starts developping an OS for their platforms, maybe we & > > will see what you are looking for.   D > The word "monopoly" looms large there. I don't see that happening," > short of BG going "on the grab".  G Intel has an OS for it. They where one of the members of the consortium G that did the Monteray(?) project, and each member has the rights to use 
 the results.     --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 01:14:17 GMT . From: "Tom Simpson" <simpsont@attbi.com.fubar>/ Subject: Re: device full: wrong error messages? = Message-ID: <Jd%29.41870$Ru5.15953@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>   ; We have no disk defragmenting utility, other than Backup :(    I'll let you know what I find.   Thanks for the input.    Regards, Tom   - "John Santos" <JOHN@egh.com> wrote in message / news:1020803181738.3497B-100000@Ives.egh.com... ( > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, John Santos wrote: > * > > On Sat, 3 Aug 2002, Tom Simpson wrote: > > L > > > I forgot - OpenVMS 7.2-1 Alpha (ES40, 2 node cluster), all current "1" rated 
 > > > patches I > > > except the last RMS patch which was released only a week or so ago.  CSC of > > > courseE > > > recommended applying the latest RMS patch even though the patch  > > > documentation " > > > lists no similar problems... > > >  > > > Regards,	 > > > Tom  > > > ? > > > "Tom Simpson" <simpsont@attbi.com.fubar> wrote in message > > > > news:ASR29.269011$uw.152768@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...G > > > > We had a similar experience last weekend during our weekly file  > > > conversions.' > > > > No explanation so far from CSC.  > > > > # > > > > The process went like this: ? > > > > 1. convert large RMS file ==> to empty drive, no errors H > > > > 2. delete original file (delete/log),  delete status was success > > > > > What does SHOW DEVICE say for free space after the delete?C > > Does SHOW DEVICE/FILES  show any open files (especially the one  > > you are trying to delete)? > > E > > What kind of disk?  If a file is marked as having a suspected bad F > > block, the bad block searching process grabs it when it is deletedF > > and beats on it a while, trying to verify the existence of the badG > > block, and add it to the bad-block list.  This might only happen on F > > very old, non-BBR drives; I can't recall ever having seen it on anK > > SDI or SCSI disk, but it might just be rare or fast with modern drives.  > > K > > If you did a DELETE/ERASE, or if the file was marked "erase on delete", C > > it might return control to you immediately, but take a while to A > > return the blocks to the free space pool.  (Need to test this  > > to be sure.) > > D > > Since it's a cluster, are you sure nothing on the other node has > > it open? > > C > > Maybe the free block numbers are off due to a crash or improper C > > dismount some time ago.  SET VOLUME/REBUILD (on both nodes) and J > > ANALYZE/DISK again to check for other problems,  (I think your earlierB > > ana/disk/repair should have detected and fixed this situation, > > but I'm not certain.)  > > C > > These are the things I would look at  - hope one of them helps.  > D > P.S. Forgot to mention another one... Do you have a disk-defraggerC > running?  I think I've seen cases where Diskeeper, in particular, B > had allocated a large chunk of space for moving a file, and thenC > the file was deleted from under it, and it took Diskeeper a while B > to notice and release its work space.  Though if the new file is@ > smaller than the old file, and there was room for the old file? > plus the work space, there must be room for the new file plus ? > work space.  Or are there other large files on the same disk, ( > which a defragger might be defragging? >  >  > > 9 > > > > 3. copy the converted file back to original drive = > > > > 4. the copy failed because the output drive was full.  > > > > J > > > > The converted file is smaller than the original file, so how could > > > > the drive be full? > > > > G > > > > No users are on the system while this process occurs.  No Batch 	 processes  > > > > running + > > > > other than the file conversion job. K > > > > The command procedure does a stop/id on any interactive users to be  sure.  > > > > G > > > > So either the delete, really didn't or the drive was not really  full. J > > > > An analyze/disk/repair on the disk in question indicted no errors. > > > >  > > > > My $.02  > > > >  > > > > Regards, > > > > Tom  > > > > F > > > > "Phillip Helbig" <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> wrote in message = > > > > news:01KKTSPIA8UM96Z9MP@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com... 1 > > > > > > I'll bet that your RUJ device filled. 	 > > > > > K > > > > > It did---before I got the error.  When I got the error, there was  more > > > > > than enough space.	 > > > > > K > > > > > > as the program exited, the RUJ file was deleted and thus things  looked# > > > > > > better all of a sudden. 	 > > > > > G > > > > > Makes sense.  Is the following summary correct?  When the RUJ  deviceG > > > > > filled up, there was the "cannot extend" error.  An ARBITRARY 	 amount of K > > > > > time later, after having created some space on the device (NOT by H > > > > > removing anything from the database!), this now-obsolete error crops upH > > > > > in a new command issued in a completely different context.  In other K > > > > > words, the error state gets "frozen" when the device fills up and  the K > > > > > corresponding errors can appear later, when the problem no longer  > > > > > exists.  > > > >  > > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > > >  > >  > > -- > > John Santos   > > Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. > > 781-861-0670 ext 539 > >  > >  > >  >  > --
 > John Santos  > Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. > 781-861-0670 ext 539 >    ------------------------------    Date: 05 Aug 2002 07:11:09 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>& Subject: Re: F&A?? Was VAX Hardware ID- Message-ID: <87bs8i5ieq.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   $ "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl> writes:  = > "Paul Repacholi" <prep@prep.synonet.com> schreef in bericht , > news:87eldg6iq1.fsf_-_@prep.synonet.com...( > > "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl> writes: > > I > > > A "B" license is not very common, which is probably the reason that * > > > Bob Supnik got the 3900's microcode. > > < > > > > Type: B, Units Required: 100    (VAX/VMS F&A Server) > > ) > > OK, what the F&A is an `F&A Server' ?  > >  > Excellent question.   7 Well, unless it stands for a `FUD and Andrew Server' :|    Morning Andrew...    --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:16:13 +0800) From: "Steven Xie" <r33300@email.mot.com> . Subject: Re: Help MRU! Robot is not responding+ Message-ID: <aikg58$iq7$1@newshost.mot.com>    Keith,  D I did IO AUTO things, but it didn't give me back anything. I have to manually do   ; MCR SYSMAN IO CONNECT GKA501:/DRIVER=SYS$GKDRIVER/NOADAPTER    Is that created the problem?   Regards, Steven9 "Keith A. Lewis" <lewis@mazda.mitre.org> wrote in message ( news:aiem9p$10r$1@newslocal.mitre.org...7 > "Steven Xie" <r33300@email.mot.com> writes in article E <aicmqr$t1k$1@newshost.mot.com> dated Fri, 2 Aug 2002 09:21:02 +0800: K > >I have one OpenVMS box (ES40, Vms 7.2-1, Media Robot Utility V1.4-1). On I > >this system I have one DLT891 tape library attached and I'm try to use  MRU J > >to control the tapes. I have created the device GKA501 (The tape device isH > >MKA500), However it doesn't work. The error message shows like below. > > G > >ROBOT gka501: is not responding: Robot illegal request. SENSE KEY:5,  > >ASC:25,ASCQ:0.  > > D > >I have also created a device named gka500, this one shows "device	 offline".  > > 0 > >Dose anybody there has the experience before? > L > I think that's the same library as I have -- 6 SCSI connectors on the backF > for 3 possible devices (2 tape drives and the robot).  The pairs are> > labelled "Library" (that's the robot), "DLT 1", and "DLT 2". > K > My setup has a long SCSI cable going from the Alpha to "Library", a short L > cable from "Library" to "DLT 1", and a terminator on the remaining "DLT 1"J > connection.  Because the robot does't use much bandwidth, it can share a6 > SCSI bus with the DLT without a performance penalty. > K > I used the console to make sure the SCSI ID of the DLT was different from K > that of the robot ("library"), then did "MC SYSMAN IO AUTO".  Both the MK  > and GK devices were detected.  > J > There's also a console setting that disables the robot completely, don't set  > that!  :^) > . > And don't be afraid to RTFM once in a while. > - > --Keith Lewis              klewis$mitre.org @ > The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  * Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 22:46:12 -0500 (CDT)2 From: Kevin Monceaux <OwnedByDogs@ClearSource.net>" Subject: Hobbyist License QuestionI Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0208042241590.12114-100000@Linux.monceaux.com>   C I'm trying to explore the various layered products available to the J OpenVMS hobbyist.  There was a license included in my hobbyist license PAKI for FMS.  I've tried installing FMS.  The installation failed saying that D there wasn't a license registered for FMS.  I've listed my installedH license PAKs.  FMS is listed.  I'm running OpenVMS VAX version 7.2.  TheJ layered products set I have is from June 1999(found on eBay).  What is the FMS license for?       Kevin    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:53:24 GMT  From: lbohan@dbc..spamless..com < Subject: Re: Marvelous EV7 system available for a test drive8 Message-ID: <bl0rku48r64gav7j92lac43buhclcgvau4@4ax.com>  A On 3 Aug 2002 05:06:42 -0700, P.Young@unsw.EDU.AU (Patrick Young)  wrote:  E >I'm a bit confused - I'd like to give this a try, however not really A >sure what I'm going for. The Platform/OS selection menus are not F >consistent. Eventually I got to telnet into the box that ends in .171D >which  appears to be the object of this discussion, even if "CompaqA >Tru64 Unix on a *NEW* AphaServer 800MHz EV7" is the description.  > ' >But, my account does not seem to work:  >...G >Sorry, I'm probably being very stupid. But, I'm a bit broken after the  >past week.   ( the psw that was emailed to me, for the 6 EV7.3-1 (EFT-1) DS10) at 192.233.54.202 worked for me.9 (you might double-check that your psw is case-sensitive?)     A  Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version E7.3-1     
 Username:  Username: <username> Password: <psw>   9     ***************************************************** 9     *                                                   * 9     *   Welcome to Compaq's OpenVMS Test-Drive          * 9     *                                                   * 9     *   This system is a COMPAQ AlphaServer DS10        * 9     *    466 MHz running OpenVMS E7.3-1 (EFT1)          * 9     *                                                   * 9     *   Compaq Fortran V7.4 installed 18-JAN-2001       * 9     *   Compaq C++ V6.2-048 installed 20-MAR-2001       * 9     *   Compaq C V6.4-008 installed 10-MAY-2001         * 9     *   TCP/IP Services V5.3-18         30-APR-2001     * 9     *   Librarian patch VMSE731_LIBR E1.0               * 9     *     installed 2-May-2002                          * 9     *   XFC patch installed 13-MAY-2002                 * 9     *   Hard links enabled on $2$DKA100: 21-MAY-2002    * 9     *   GNV A1.2-122 installed 31-MAY-2002              * 9     *                                                   * 9     *                                                   * 9     *****************************************************    $ sh sys/noproc C OpenVMS E7.3-1  on node SPE202   4-AUG-2002 15:31:34.99  Uptime  75e 00:17:43  ( $ write sys$output f$getsyi( "HW_NAME" ) COMPAQ AlphaServer DS10 466 MHzt   $ TCPIP SH INTERFC Packets/; Interface   IP_Addr  Network mask   Receive   Send     MTU e:  LO0         127.0.0.1 255.0.0.0  3110          3110  4096+  WE0        192.233.54.202  255.255.255.128  5329672     115067 1500   5 $ help V7.3-1_Features                               e   V7.3-1_FEATURESy  9      The following topics summarize the new features for y"      OpenVMS Alpha  Version 7.3-1.  #   Additional information available:t  .   OpenVMS_e-Business    User_Features         #   System_Management_Features       y4   Programming_Features  Associated_Products_Features   V7.3-1_FEATURES Subtopic?  Topic? T $    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:32:43 GMTE1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>AE Subject: Re: OpenVMS.org, Terry Shannon knows XYZ and Evereybody heree' Message-ID: <3D4D8616.C5C76190@fsi.net>    Tom Linden wrote:I >  > How big a pipe is needed?n >  > >-----Original Message-----22 > >From: Don Sykes [mailto:annonymous@pacbell.net]( > >Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:15 PM > >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComH > >Subject: Re: OpenVMS.org, Terry Shannon knows XYZ and Evereybody here > >L > >K > >Kenneth Farmer wrote: > >> [snip]aC > >If I had a big enough pipe (internet, that is) and the capacity,C > >I'd offer tom( > >mirror it myself, but, alas, I don't.  H I should think T1 or better for starters. If it takes off at all, higher) bandwidth can be considered at such time.g   -- o David J. DachteraR dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/R   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 03:32:55 GMTl, From: "Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@openvms.org>E Subject: Re: OpenVMS.org, Terry Shannon knows XYZ and Evereybody here > Message-ID: <Hf139.44919$Qn5.2396224@twister.southeast.rr.com>  5 "Don Sykes" <annonymous@pacbell.net> wrote in message % news:3D4B595E.A458DC14@pacbell.net...  > Kenneth Farmer wrote:t > >tH > > I'd be willing to try something like this.  Anyone object to running there < > > sites on a (oh boy, here it comes) Linux server (duck!). > >oJ > I'm horrified! Is that what you're using??? What a boon for the likes of Andrew
 > & Torvalds!e >tL > Imagine the talk, "Yea they have to run their VMS web site on Linux, cause VMS K > can't handle it! Ha , ha, ha, ha..." Eeeccchhh! (the sound of fingernails, on a
 > blackboard)   J Actually, OpenVMS.org and LinuxHPC.org are both on Alpha/Tru64,  Tru64.orgE runs on Alpha/Linux.  I switch things around, I experiment, I try new0H software and hardware setups.  As these websites began to grow it becameJ more diffcult to do all the server migrating.  The websites have been leftK where they last sat, growing.  Kinda like musical chairs.  I'll get it overh to OVMS eventually.y  L > > I could probably swing getting the sites up on a OVMS server also.  ThatH > > route would take some time.  I'm in the process of getting up a OVMS server$ > > to act as a public file archive. > >eL > If I had a big enough pipe (internet, that is) and the capacity, I'd offer to' > mirror it myself, but, alas, I don't.l > C > > Any others interested in participating?  Just drop me an email,tL > > kfarmer@openvms.org.  I probably wouldn't be interested unless there are ar > > dozen or more responses. > >s  > With that said,,, count me in.  ) Done.  I think we're up to six or so now.e       --   Kenneth Farmer http://www.Tru64.org http://www.OpenVMS.org   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Aug 2002 18:19:18 -0600a- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)eE Subject: Re: Robust exception handler context in C (well, C++ really)g3 Message-ID: <eHi9luW$s3FD@eisner.encompasserve.org>.  Z In article <3D4C50BF.6050801@qsl.network>, "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> writes:  ; > It may be the thing to do is to put a wrapper around the  H > LIB$FIND_IMAGE_SYMBOL() in a language that can do what you want to do.  7 Oh I _know_ how to do that in at least three languages.o  > The requirement was for a robust way to do it in C, which even: without context sounds like an overconstrained problem :-)   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 19:47:18 GMTn1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> ) Subject: Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today ' Message-ID: <3D4D8981.B35E2499@fsi.net>-   "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:  > + > Verizon DSL is looking better and better!   G In the chi.internet ng, their nickname is "Veriz-off". Apparently, some.G feel the service is off more than it's on (reliability problem). Others A have had a good experience. Crap shoot - like any other, I guess.    -- r David J. Dachteras dba DJE Systems. http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/2   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 02:30:05 GMTa1 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com>s% Subject: Second KLEZ from ATTBI TodayJ= Message-ID: <Ik039.42286$Ru5.16270@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>8  ) Verizon DSL is looking better and better!u   -- Terry C. Shannon+ Consultant and Publisher, Shannon Knows HPCr8 Director, Technical Communications, Science Medicus Inc.% Director at Large, Encompass US, Inc.  terryshannon@attbi.com http://www.openvms.org   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 02:59:34 GMTe1 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> ) Subject: Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Todayt= Message-ID: <qSl39.52146$Ru5.22712@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>   E Any good guesses? ATTBI sure as hell is off the radar screen. I'll be  looking for service in ABQ, NM.w  < "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message! news:3D4D8981.B35E2499@fsi.net...  > "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:  > >p- > > Verizon DSL is looking better and better!h >rI > In the chi.internet ng, their nickname is "Veriz-off". Apparently, someeI > feel the service is off more than it's on (reliability problem). OtherswC > have had a good experience. Crap shoot - like any other, I guess.t >d > -- > David J. DachteraE > dba DJE Systemse > http://www.djesys.com/ > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/e   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 04:18:20 GMTg! From: "Derigible" <none@none.com> ) Subject: Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Todayx> Message-ID: <g0n39.283109$uw.162885@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>  < "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> wrote in message7 news:qSl39.52146$Ru5.22712@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...kG > Any good guesses? ATTBI sure as hell is off the radar screen. I'll beu! > looking for service in ABQ, NM.   " Moving out of Taxachusetts, Terry?  	 Mark Levy  SMAo   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 02 23:25:02 +0200o) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 3 Subject: Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL ! ) Message-ID: <0h0EonfHTTyr@elias.decus.ch>   b In article <1sd39.146233$uh7.23572@sccrnsc03>, "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> writes: > M > I'll load ALL-In-One and MS-OFFICE and Claris on my XP1000 tomorow. That'llc > fix the problem.   Just abandon Outlook.   L I will repeat that there are plenty of mail programs for Winschrott which do not execute attachments. __
 Paul Sture Switzerlandl   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 22:49:03 -0400e( From: David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com>3 Subject: Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !c, Message-ID: <3D4DE79F.1010407@tsoft-inc.com>  7 If you can't rant to your friends, who can you rant to?n  J Killfiles are too much trouble.  Since billyware runs on clicks more than L electricity, a few extra clicks on the NEXT button just keeps the billy box 
 running.  :-)e   Dave     Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:r  0 > - "Sorry sir, but you are standing on my foot" > - "So what ? Sue me !!"e >  > > > Come on Terry, a correct answer to Anders' (factual correct) > note, *could* have been :i > < > "Yes I know it of topic, but I was a bit upset at the time > I posted. I'm sorry..."  > = > I have not looked but there must be some other newsgroup(s)e0 > ment to handle computer virus issues anyway... >  > Jan-Erik Sderholm.  >  >  > "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:  > : >>"Anders Eklf" <andekl_no@saaf_spam.se> wrote in message6 >>news:1fgefha.6jgw0wjaoa9xN%andekl_no@saaf_spam.se... >>+ >>>This is totally off-topic in this group.e# >>>Klez doesn't affect VMS. Period.e >>> : >>OK, then killfile me or sue me, Sport. Elsewise shut up. >>   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 04:40:06 GMT * From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>3 Subject: Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !EA Message-ID: <Gkn39.106648$cm.3621262@bin3.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>0  5 "David Froble" <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote in message & news:3D4DEBE8.5060207@tsoft-inc.com...   ...   K > Whether they do or not, and whether or not they made any such promises, I  thinkoL > that one of the answers to such is going to be filters at hubs such as the mail > servers at ISPs.  E Perhaps, but it's the kind of thing that makes me nervous (unless, of  course, it's optional)..   ...e  J > > If you stop using Outlook Express and/or Outlook (don't even *install*G > > Outlook!), turn off the "Use Microsoft's Viewer" option in Eudora'seK > > settings, and install a decent antivirus program you'll be fairly safe.oE > > If that's not enough, get a Mac or a VMS box or  switch to Linux.  >  > I > That's the real problem Terry.  You, and I, and the rest who use windoz  for J > mail, are supporting the problem, namely, microshit which doesn't give a damn > about security.o  J While I have as little respect for MS software as anyone, the above is notL entirely fair.  It is absolutely true that Microsoft ships its products withI *defaults* that are insecure as all get-out, but it does provide optional I settings that make them reasonably secure (when combined with patches fortK the out-right bugs in its security apparatus).  I use those options, I keep0K my patch levels fairly well up to date, I never 'open' dubious attachments,rJ and as a result I don't get bitten (my wife did once, because I had had toJ reinstall Windows on her PC after a losing fight with a CD-RW installationB and had forgotten to bring IE back up to the current patch level).  J I have a lot of sympathy for average Joes whose PCs get trashed because ofI Microsoft's defaults.  But most of the people participating in c.o.v. aredI presumably more than capable of setting up their Windows/Outlook software C securely enough not to get hosed by any the common threats (withoutiF firewalls or anti-virus shields) if they bother to learn how to do so.   - bill   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 14:12:21 GMT,> From: andekl_no@saaf_spam.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_Ekl=F6f?=)3 Subject: Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !i: Message-ID: <1fgefha.6jgw0wjaoa9xN%andekl_no@saaf_spam.se>  ( This is totally off-topic in this group.  Klez doesn't affect VMS. Period.  0 Terry C. Shannon <terryshannon@attbi.com> wrote:  + > Verizon DSL is looking better and better!t  3 So your ISP doesn't scan incoming mail for viruses.  Neither does mine - big deal !   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 14:56:12 GMTk1 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> 3 Subject: Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !t/ Message-ID: <cgb39.780030$cQ3.119281@sccrnsc01>i  8 "Anders Eklf" <andekl_no@saaf_spam.se> wrote in message4 news:1fgefha.6jgw0wjaoa9xN%andekl_no@saaf_spam.se...* > This is totally off-topic in this group." > Klez doesn't affect VMS. Period.  8 OK, then killfile me or sue me, Sport. Elsewise shut up. >42 > Terry C. Shannon <terryshannon@attbi.com> wrote: > - > > Verizon DSL is looking better and better!a >I5 > So your ISP doesn't scan incoming mail for viruses.r  > Neither does mine - big deal !   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 17:53:02 +0200k9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>l3 Subject: Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL ! ' Message-ID: <3D4D4DDE.2ABE52D1@aaa.com>k  . - "Sorry sir, but you are standing on my foot" - "So what ? Sue me !!"h    < Come on Terry, a correct answer to Anders' (factual correct) note, *could* have been :   : "Yes I know it of topic, but I was a bit upset at the time I posted. I'm sorry..."e  ; I have not looked but there must be some other newsgroup(s) . ment to handle computer virus issues anyway...   Jan-Erik Sderholm.r     "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:D > : > "Anders Eklf" <andekl_no@saaf_spam.se> wrote in message6 > news:1fgefha.6jgw0wjaoa9xN%andekl_no@saaf_spam.se..., > > This is totally off-topic in this group.$ > > Klez doesn't affect VMS. Period. > : > OK, then killfile me or sue me, Sport. Elsewise shut up.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 16:01:50 GMT 1 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com>o3 Subject: Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !,/ Message-ID: <Odc39.780716$cQ3.119310@sccrnsc01>r  3 "Jan-Erik Sderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message ! news:3D4D4DDE.2ABE52D1@aaa.com...v0 > - "Sorry sir, but you are standing on my foot" > - "So what ? Sue me !!"- >- >-> > Come on Terry, a correct answer to Anders' (factual correct) > note, *could* have been :c >e< > "Yes I know it of topic, but I was a bit upset at the time > I posted. I'm sorry..."0 >@= > I have not looked but there must be some other newsgroup(s)e0 > ment to handle computer virus issues anyway... >e  K Thing of it is, ATTBI.COM (who I would recommend no nonody) uses BRIGHTMAILlJ antispam and antivrus filtering. They (ATTBI) are completely unresponsive,L and the Klez attacks are increasing daily. ATTBI refuses to explain why, butG if you've very has the misfortune of talking to their tech support, you  might know why).  I This KLEZ stiuff must go. Wouldn't be an issue of DEC negotiated a better- deal with Microsoft...   ------------------------------   Date: 4 Aug 2002 21:22:41 -0700R- From: merritt.robert@spsd.sk.ca (rob merritt)i? Subject: Re: trying to install CPQ java131 on a alpha 250 4/266n= Message-ID: <b6bf97d5.0208042022.5137ebc7@posting.google.com>   - Well I put up the process qoutas still no joye   funny thing  java -fullversion works ?   D think I will scrounge arond for 128more meg of memory like the other> rob and see what happens after a autogen (I am trying to get a functionong csws _ jserv on this thing)  a Rick Retterer <rick0157@charter.net> wrote in message news:<ukqnclajd53ce2@corp.supernews.com>...y > Check the web site:t[ > http://www.compaq.com/java/documentation/1.3.1/ovms/docs/RELEASE_NOTES.HTML#ProcessQuotass > / > Make sure your process quotas are sufficient. ( > -------------------------------------- > Posted by: Rick Retterer   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 22:06:29 +0200A- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>r Subject: Re: uaf' Message-ID: <3D4D8944.E816D10B@Free.fr>*   David Froble wrote:* > N > Note that all users on node B can change passwords, so it isn't a bad SYSUAFR > file in SYS$COMMON.  However, I'd look for another file in SYS$SPECIFIC:[SYSEXE]   Yeah. This is why I wrote:  T > > My best guess is that the sys$common:[sysexe]sysuaf.dat has been edited, changedI > > and saved as a text file under a new version in sys$specific:[sysexe]   0 ahh... mother tongues and not mother tongues :-)   D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 22:10:16 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>0 Subject: Re: uaf' Message-ID: <3D4D8A28.715C0013@Free.fr>    Howard S Shubs wrote:  > K > Or on node B.  It could be either one, where the one on node B is "good".-  H No. Original post sez that user on node A gets the error message. So the offending file is on node A.  M If it was on node B in sys$specific (i.e. [sysB.sysexe]) user on node A would-> not reach it. S:he could only reach [sysA.sysexe]sysuaf.dat orN [sysA.sys$common.sysexe] which is a synonym for [sysB.sys$common.sysexe] via a SET FILE/ENTER   D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 08:48:47 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>  Subject: Re: uaf' Message-ID: <3D4CCE4F.99E5F59F@Free.fr>   P My best guess is that the sys$common:[sysexe]sysuaf.dat has been edited, changedE and saved as a text file under a new version in sys$specific:[sysexe]0  J Do a $ DIR SYS$SYSTEM:SYSUAF.DAT/DATE and you may find two files. Doing anO ANALYZE/RMS on the newest one should show that it is not indexed, hence the RMSe8 error message when trying to open it in read/write mode.   D. e   A Bonaveidogo wrote: > 	 > Hi All,e > I > When a user tried to change his/her password on Node A... the following  > message appeared...  >  > "Invalid access record mode" > " > Node A is cluster with Node B... > 0 > All users can change their password on Node B. > E > Any idea why we're getting this message on this node when modifyingM > password?v > * > Your assistance is very much appreciated >  > AB   -- g2   ------------------------------------------------2 MORANDI Consultants  http://Didier.Morandi.Free.fr0   19 chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France.2 Tel.: +33 (0)6 7983 6418 - Fax: +33 (0)5 6154 19282 OpenVMS, APPLE, Computer Security, Migration plans2 --------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:53:56 +1200& From: A Bonaveidogo <Asena@fsc.com.fj> Subject: RE: uafG Message-ID: <BFBEDDF2CFEDD411917400508BF3A6FFCBD63B@exchsvr.FSC.COM.FJ>t   D.  J Node A and Node B form a cluster and they're using the same uaf file which is on one of the raid disk   AB   -----Original Message-----4 From: Didier Morandi [mailto:Didier.Morandi@Free.fr]( Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 11:49 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Come Subject: Re: uaf    H My best guess is that the sys$common:[sysexe]sysuaf.dat has been edited, changed2E and saved as a text file under a new version in sys$specific:[sysexe]e  J Do a $ DIR SYS$SYSTEM:SYSUAF.DAT/DATE and you may find two files. Doing anK ANALYZE/RMS on the newest one should show that it is not indexed, hence thee RMSo8 error message when trying to open it in read/write mode.   D.     A Bonaveidogo wrote: > 	 > Hi All,g > I > When a user tried to change his/her password on Node A... the following( > message appeared...L >  > "Invalid access record mode" > " > Node A is cluster with Node B... > 0 > All users can change their password on Node B. > E > Any idea why we're getting this message on this node when modifyingu > password?a > * > Your assistance is very much appreciated >  > AB   -- r2   ------------------------------------------------2 MORANDI Consultants  http://Didier.Morandi.Free.fr0   19 chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France.2 Tel.: +33 (0)6 7983 6418 - Fax: +33 (0)5 6154 19282 OpenVMS, APPLE, Computer Security, Migration plans2 --------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 10:06:34 -0400s( From: David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> Subject: Re: uaf, Message-ID: <3D4D34EA.9040305@tsoft-inc.com>  M Note that all users on node B can change passwords, so it isn't a bad SYSUAF uQ file in SYS$COMMON.  However, I'd look for another file in SYS$SPECIFIC:[SYSEXE] gN (I think that's the logical) on node A.  VMS looks there before in SYS$COMMON.   Dave     Didier Morandi wrote:t  R > My best guess is that the sys$common:[sysexe]sysuaf.dat has been edited, changedG > and saved as a text file under a new version in sys$specific:[sysexe]  > L > Do a $ DIR SYS$SYSTEM:SYSUAF.DAT/DATE and you may find two files. Doing anQ > ANALYZE/RMS on the newest one should show that it is not indexed, hence the RMSS: > error message when trying to open it in read/write mode. >  > D. 0 >  > A Bonaveidogo wrote: > 	 >>Hi All,a >>I >>When a user tried to change his/her password on Node A... the following  >>message appeared...F >> >>"Invalid access record mode" >>" >>Node A is cluster with Node B... >>0 >>All users can change their password on Node B. >>E >>Any idea why we're getting this message on this node when modifyingS >>password?l >>* >>Your assistance is very much appreciated >> >>AB >> >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 11:25:39 -0400t' From: Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net>  Subject: Re: uaf< Message-ID: <howard-B989AC.11253904082002@enews.newsguy.com>  , In article <3D4D34EA.9040305@tsoft-inc.com>,*  David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote:  O > Note that all users on node B can change passwords, so it isn't a bad SYSUAF  = > file in SYS$COMMON.  However, I'd look for another file in e > SYS$SPECIFIC:[SYSEXE] E > (I think that's the logical) on node A.  VMS looks there before in t
 > SYS$COMMON.f  I Or on node B.  It could be either one, where the one on node B is "good".e   -- s# "Run in circles, scream and shout!"- I hope you have good backups! * "Is this the right place for an argument?"   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.427 ************************