1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 07 Aug 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 431       Contents: Re: Academic Lisence Problem Academic Lisence Problem Re: Academic Lisence Problem RE: Academic Lisence Problem Re: Academic Lisence ProblemC Re: Arithmetic Data Corruption - Compaq TCP/IP Services 5.3 and NFS C Re: Arithmetic Data Corruption - Compaq TCP/IP Services 5.3 and NFS C Re: Arithmetic Data Corruption - Compaq TCP/IP Services 5.3 and NFS  Automating EDIT/FDL ->OPTIMIZE" RE: Automating EDIT/FDL ->OPTIMIZE" Re: Automating EDIT/FDL ->OPTIMIZE" Re: Automating EDIT/FDL ->OPTIMIZE2 Re: Can ANYONE explain HP's rationale on this one?( Re: Clear remains of dead cluster member Re: Compression on DLT backup  Re: Compression on DLT backup  Re: Compression on DLT backup  Re: Counting records in a file Re: Counting records in a file Datatreve and jpegs  Re: DCL Question Re: DCL Question Re: dectalk fuse type?& Re: device full: wrong error messages?& Re: device full: wrong error messages?& Re: device full: wrong error messages?$ Re: Help - TPU Global_search_replace$ Re: Help - TPU Global_search_replace) Re: Help with vax3200 (Maximun disk size) ) Re: Help with vax3200 (Maximun disk size) ) RE: Help with vax3200 (Maximun disk size)   Re: how to delete recursively...+ Re: Itanic2 - the cHumPaq spin continues... + Re: Itanic2 - the cHumPaq spin continues...  Klez du jour... be warned! Re: Klez du jour... be warned! Re: Klez du jour... be warned! Re: KLEZ SPAMMER ALERT LP27 Printer Processor mouse installed  Re: mouse installed % Re: No Andrew, slowaris can't be VMS! ' Re: Onsite VMS support in Charlotte, NC  OPCOM log file Re: OPCOM log file Re: OPCOM log file Re: OPCOM log file Re: OpenVMS + HP JetDirect Re: OpenVMS printers Re: OpenVMS printersC Re: OpenVMS V7.3-1, Smart Array 5300 (was: Re: Vms v7.3-1 and scsi) ( Oracle Containers for JAVA (OC4J) on VMS Re: reseller info requested < Re: Robust exception handler context in C (well, C++ really)< RE: Robust exception handler context in C (well, C++ really) tlz and compaction uaf  Re: uaf  Re: uaf 6 Wanted: Employment - have cobol vax/vms and ingres too: Re: Wanted: Employment - have cobol vax/vms and ingres too+ Warning for those building csws from source   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 23:19:22 +0200" From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl>% Subject: Re: Academic Lisence Problem 6 Message-ID: <aipegu$16f58c$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>  - Could you post the output from these commands    $ show license $ show license/charge   0 "Dan Moore" <dmoore@sosu.edu> schreef in bericht" news:3D4FFCDD.A934B236@sosu.edu... > Greetings, > K >   I have two vaxen at home. Each one is running OpenVMS 7.3 running under G the new Academic License Grant for OpenVMS (http://www.openvmsedu.com/)  > L >   Before I ran cluster_config, I could telnet to each box. Afterwards, theL telnet program says the license is not available for this product when I try and log in.  > J >   I re-ran the com files that update the license database on each box to avail. > 
 >  Any ideas?  > 	 > Thanks,  >  > Dan  >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:44:13 -0500 ! From: Dan Moore <dmoore@sosu.edu> ! Subject: Academic Lisence Problem ( Message-ID: <3D4FFCDD.A934B236@sosu.edu>  
 Greetings,     I have two vaxen at home. Each one is running OpenVMS 7.3 running under the new Academic License Grant for OpenVMS (http://www.openvmsedu.com/)      Before I ran cluster_config, I could telnet to each box. Afterwards, the telnet program says the license is not available for this product when I try and log in.   O   I re-ran the com files that update the license database on each box to avail.     Any ideas?    Thanks,    Dan    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 17:36:33 GMT 4 From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk>% Subject: Re: Academic Lisence Problem 0 Message-ID: <3D5007FF.6DC1EFED@blueyonder.co.uk>   Dan Moore wrote: >  > Greetings, >  >   I have two vaxen at home. Each one is running OpenVMS 7.3 running under the new Academic License Grant for OpenVMS (http://www.openvmsedu.com/)  >  >   Before I ran cluster_config, I could telnet to each box. Afterwards, the telnet program says the license is not available for this product when I try and log in.  > Q >   I re-ran the com files that update the license database on each box to avail.  > 
 >  Any ideas?  >   Q Did you register and load a cluster licence before or since you made the cluster.   J If that doesn't help, you should post you full licence info on both nodes.  	 Regards,      	 > Thanks,  >  > Dan    --   tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk    H * PLEASE NOTE tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk address is NO LONGER VALID *   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 15:15:07 -0700# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> % Subject: RE: Academic Lisence Problem 9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJICEDEFIAA.tom@kednos.com>   1 Also check that you have a license for VAXCLUSTER    >-----Original Message----- < >From: Tim Llewellyn [mailto:tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk]( >Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 10:37 AM >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com& >Subject: Re: Academic Lisence Problem >  >  >  >  >Dan Moore wrote:  >>  
 >> Greetings,  >>  ? >>   I have two vaxen at home. Each one is running OpenVMS 7.3  : >running under the new Academic License Grant for OpenVMS  >(http://www.openvmsedu.com/)  >>  > >>   Before I ran cluster_config, I could telnet to each box. B >Afterwards, the telnet program says the license is not available ( >for this product when I try and log in. >>  @ >>   I re-ran the com files that update the license database on  >each box to avail.  >>   >>  Any ideas? >>   > A >Did you register and load a cluster licence before or since you   >made the cluster. > K >If that doesn't help, you should post you full licence info on both nodes.  > 
 >Regards,  >  > 
 >> Thanks, >>   >> Dan >  >--   >tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk  > I >* PLEASE NOTE tim.llewellyn@cableinet.co.uk address is NO LONGER VALID *  >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). @ >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:36:37 -0500 ! From: Dan Moore <dmoore@sosu.edu> % Subject: Re: Academic Lisence Problem ( Message-ID: <3D503355.8E130F79@sosu.edu>  Q >   I re-ran the com files that update the license database on each box to avail.  >   2 Oops, to *no avail*.  I still could use some help.   Dan    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 14:34:15 GMT . From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter LANGSTOEGER)L Subject: Re: Arithmetic Data Corruption - Compaq TCP/IP Services 5.3 and NFS5 Message-ID: <H7R39.119121$cU1.3024004@news.chello.at>   ` In article <3D4A2542.4010807@wasd.vsm.com.au>, Mark Daniel <Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au> writes:I >We recently had a *real significant* problem after an upgrade to Compaq  K >TCP/IP 5.3.  Not to labour the story too heavily, but as this causes data  L >corruption, a *warning* is in order and I couldn't find an existing one on  >c.o.v.    Thanks for _your_ warning.  L >If you have this version of TCP/IP installed, are using the NFS server and H >have any application that does floating point arithmetic :^) apply the : >just-released AXPVMS-TCPIP_MUP-V0503-181-4 *immediately*.  M Today the MUP was announced as for TCPIP V5.1 !! (there is no 5.3 dir at all)   J     http://ftp.support.compaq.com/patches/public/vms/axp/v7.2-1/tcpip/5.1/( 	dec-axpvms-tcpip_mup-v0503-181-4.README  L But as the version numbers of the MUP and the TCPIP base products do differ,< some problems are expected, and indeed an installation gives  P %PCSI-E-APPLYTOERR, product DEC AXPVMS TCPIP, to which maintenance product DEC A/ XPVMS TCPIP_MUP V5.3-181 applies, was not found E Terminating is strongly recommended.  Do you want to terminate? [YES]    So, what now ? Is the bug also in V5.1 ? 3 Do we have to wait for an V5.1 specific TCPIP_MUP ? > Will the existing TCPIP_MUP be fixed to speak only from V5.3 ?$ Is the bug also in the VAX version ?   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atP A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm looking for (a) Network _and_ VMS Job(s)   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 16:20:08 GMT & From: John Reagan <john.reagan@hp.com>L Subject: Re: Arithmetic Data Corruption - Compaq TCP/IP Services 5.3 and NFS% Message-ID: <3D4FF573.7080300@hp.com>    Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote:   > So, what now ? > Is the bug also in V5.1 ? 5 > Do we have to wait for an V5.1 specific TCPIP_MUP ? @ > Will the existing TCPIP_MUP be fixed to speak only from V5.3 ?& > Is the bug also in the VAX version ? >   G I don't speak for the TCPIP product, but my guesses are that is it new  H for V5.3 since that is when they seemed to have upgraded to the newer C H compiler that exposed their build flaw.  Older C compilers would choose @ to use the OTS$DIV routines instead of using the floating point E alternative.  It is not in the VAX version since we're talking about  G C-written drivers and using explicit floating registers, neither exist   on VAX.    --   John Reagan ' Compaq Pascal/{A|I}MACRO Project Leader  Hewlett-Packard Company    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:43:48 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>L Subject: Re: Arithmetic Data Corruption - Compaq TCP/IP Services 5.3 and NFS4 Message-ID: <FZS39.85670$uV1.6032290@zwoll1.home.nl>   Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote:b > In article <3D4A2542.4010807@wasd.vsm.com.au>, Mark Daniel <Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au> writes: > J >>We recently had a *real significant* problem after an upgrade to Compaq L >>TCP/IP 5.3.  Not to labour the story too heavily, but as this causes data M >>corruption, a *warning* is in order and I couldn't find an existing one on   >>c.o.v. >  >  > Thanks for _your_ warning. >  > M >>If you have this version of TCP/IP installed, are using the NFS server and  I >>have any application that does floating point arithmetic :^) apply the  ; >>just-released AXPVMS-TCPIP_MUP-V0503-181-4 *immediately*.  >  > O > Today the MUP was announced as for TCPIP V5.1 !! (there is no 5.3 dir at all)  > L >     http://ftp.support.compaq.com/patches/public/vms/axp/v7.2-1/tcpip/5.1/* > 	dec-axpvms-tcpip_mup-v0503-181-4.README  Q Yes indeed, this is very odd. The release notes of this patch all relate to V5.3  O executables. Calling it a V5.1 patch seems to me as a major mistake by Compaq ! N In fact there is even talk of reverse engineering a V5.4 executable to a V5.3 O executable. I hope someone of engineering will take this problem up very soon,  P to give us clarity about the question if this is a V5.1 patch or a V5.3 patch !!     > N > But as the version numbers of the MUP and the TCPIP base products do differ,> > some problems are expected, and indeed an installation gives > R > %PCSI-E-APPLYTOERR, product DEC AXPVMS TCPIP, to which maintenance product DEC A1 > XPVMS TCPIP_MUP V5.3-181 applies, was not found G > Terminating is strongly recommended.  Do you want to terminate? [YES]  >  > So, what now ? > Is the bug also in V5.1 ? 5 > Do we have to wait for an V5.1 specific TCPIP_MUP ? @ > Will the existing TCPIP_MUP be fixed to speak only from V5.3 ?& > Is the bug also in the VAX version ? >    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Aug 2002 16:00:17 -0700 " From: cstranslations@msn.com (Joe)' Subject: Automating EDIT/FDL ->OPTIMIZE = Message-ID: <d56d1c2d.0208061500.21d46dcb@posting.google.com>    OpenVMS 7.3   E Supposing one had a very large number of indexed files (slightly more F than 17,000) that one wanted to create a FDL for (ANALYZE/RMS/FDL) andF then run through EDIT/FDL - OPTIMIZE in an "automated" sort of manner.' Any ideas on how / if this is possible?   F I had thought some rather lengthy DCL to do a DIR/FULL parsing out the@ number of keys. Write the anticipated responses to a file. PointC SYS$COMMAND at the "response file" as appropiate. A quick and dirty ? file with the anticipated responses for a single file (proof of @ concept) runs into problems when the "driving" command file hits EDIT/FDL...   ; %EDF-F-DEVCLASS, device class of SYS$INPUT must be terminal   E Any possible way to point SYS$COMMAND at something in such a way that  it will look like a terminal??  F We're moving from 7.1-1H2 to 7.3. On our production system the indexedC files aren't really optimized to drive cluser size (long story) and D the underlying problem doesn't manafest itself for what ever reason.@ The problem description can more or less be found in the DSN ITS article:  = COPY-W-INCOMPAT, Incompatible Attributes Copying Indexed File   F I sent the problem through the normal support channels (shortly beforeD finding the DSN article). I know BACKUP will "mask" the problem (but= that's only covering it up). The person I talked to said that E engineering is probably going to address the issue (which is slightly ? better than the "DIGITAL RESPONSE" in the article) however that ( doesn't do me much good at the moment...  = Anyone run into this and addressed it other than via BACKUP??    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 17:08:49 -0700# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> + Subject: RE: Automating EDIT/FDL ->OPTIMIZE 9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIIEDHFIAA.tom@kednos.com>   B Not exactly sure what your goal is here but PL?I supports calls toF FDL$[CREATE,GENERATE,PARSE,RELEASE]  and certainly understands indexed files.H There is an example in section 6.7 of the PL/I Users Guide, which if you don't 2 you may download from freja.kednos.com/pub/plidocs   >-----Original Message----- * >From: Joe [mailto:cstranslations@msn.com]' >Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 4:00 PM  >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com( >Subject: Automating EDIT/FDL ->OPTIMIZE >  >  >OpenVMS 7.3 > F >Supposing one had a very large number of indexed files (slightly moreG >than 17,000) that one wanted to create a FDL for (ANALYZE/RMS/FDL) and G >then run through EDIT/FDL - OPTIMIZE in an "automated" sort of manner. ( >Any ideas on how / if this is possible? > G >I had thought some rather lengthy DCL to do a DIR/FULL parsing out the A >number of keys. Write the anticipated responses to a file. Point D >SYS$COMMAND at the "response file" as appropiate. A quick and dirty@ >file with the anticipated responses for a single file (proof ofA >concept) runs into problems when the "driving" command file hits  >EDIT/FDL... > < >%EDF-F-DEVCLASS, device class of SYS$INPUT must be terminal > F >Any possible way to point SYS$COMMAND at something in such a way that >it will look like a terminal??  > G >We're moving from 7.1-1H2 to 7.3. On our production system the indexed D >files aren't really optimized to drive cluser size (long story) andE >the underlying problem doesn't manafest itself for what ever reason. A >The problem description can more or less be found in the DSN ITS 	 >article:  > > >COPY-W-INCOMPAT, Incompatible Attributes Copying Indexed File > G >I sent the problem through the normal support channels (shortly before E >finding the DSN article). I know BACKUP will "mask" the problem (but > >that's only covering it up). The person I talked to said thatF >engineering is probably going to address the issue (which is slightly@ >better than the "DIGITAL RESPONSE" in the article) however that) >doesn't do me much good at the moment...  > > >Anyone run into this and addressed it other than via BACKUP?? >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). @ >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 01:27:17 GMT 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>7+ Subject: Re: Automating EDIT/FDL ->OPTIMIZEe' Message-ID: <3D507C3E.5BEFBF1E@fsi.net>m  
 Joe wrote: > 
 > OpenVMS 7.3L > G > Supposing one had a very large number of indexed files (slightly moreeH > than 17,000) that one wanted to create a FDL for (ANALYZE/RMS/FDL) andH > then run through EDIT/FDL - OPTIMIZE in an "automated" sort of manner.) > Any ideas on how / if this is possible?e  A I believe the "magic" incantation is (cut directly from HELP in aD Reflection/4 session):  5 $ EDIT/FDL/ANALYSIS=TEMP_DATA/NOINTERACTIVE TEMP_DATAI  D So, if you precede that with an ANALYZE/RMS/FDL, it looks like this:  ( $ ANAL/RMS filespec/fdl/out=fdl_filespec7 $ EDIT/FDL/ANALYSIS=fdl_filespec/NOINTERACTIVE filespecs   To embed that in a loop:   $ src_fsp := dev:<dir>*.ISMn
 $ prev_fsp := 
 $src_loop: $ fsp = f$search( src_fsp )s $ if fsp .eqs. "" then exite! $ if fsp .eqs. prev_fsp then exitw $ prev_fsp = fsp" $ fname = f$parse( fsp,,, "name" )# $ anal/rms &fsp/fdl/out='fname'.fdlm= $ edit/fdl/nointeractive/analysis='fname'.fdl 'fname"_opt.fdlG $ goto src_loopa   (Example only - *NOT* tested!)   -- i David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systemsd http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 01:28:41 GMTs1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>.+ Subject: Re: Automating EDIT/FDL ->OPTIMIZE ' Message-ID: <3D507C94.272FA385@fsi.net>e   "David J. Dachtera" wrote: >  > Joe wrote: > >A > > OpenVMS 7.3a > >eI > > Supposing one had a very large number of indexed files (slightly more J > > than 17,000) that one wanted to create a FDL for (ANALYZE/RMS/FDL) andJ > > then run through EDIT/FDL - OPTIMIZE in an "automated" sort of manner.+ > > Any ideas on how / if this is possible?e > C > I believe the "magic" incantation is (cut directly from HELP in au > Reflection/4 session): > 7 > $ EDIT/FDL/ANALYSIS=TEMP_DATA/NOINTERACTIVE TEMP_DATAe > F > So, if you precede that with an ANALYZE/RMS/FDL, it looks like this: > * > $ ANAL/RMS filespec/fdl/out=fdl_filespec9 > $ EDIT/FDL/ANALYSIS=fdl_filespec/NOINTERACTIVE filespecs >  > To embed that in a loop: >  > $ src_fsp := dev:<dir>*.ISM- > $ prev_fsp :=- > $src_loop: > $ fsp = f$search( src_fsp )e > $ if fsp .eqs. "" then exit0# > $ if fsp .eqs. prev_fsp then exit  > $ prev_fsp = fsp$ > $ fname = f$parse( fsp,,, "name" )% > $ anal/rms &fsp/fdl/out='fname'.fdl ? > $ edit/fdl/nointeractive/analysis='fname'.fdl 'fname"_opt.fdl   H You'll probably want to stick a CONVERT/FDL command in here somewhere...   > $ goto src_loop6 >   > (Example only - *NOT* tested!)     -- v David J. Dachterao dba DJE Systemsn http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:48:56 GMTt# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>s; Subject: Re: Can ANYONE explain HP's rationale on this one? K Message-ID: <sSU39.294456$WJf1.254942@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>v  D Anybody seen any good VMS advertising lately, or even some lousy VMS) advertising with any degree of frequency?            Letterman's TOP 5 List Why We Won't See Any VMS         Advertising From HPr! ---------------------------------2  H 5) We only know how to advertise and market products that cost less than $1,000.   L 4) It won't be available on our spiffy new processor for another 2 years, if then./  ? 3) The only thing it runs on was declared dead over a year ago.t  K 2) We don't sell VMS to *new* customers, so why waste the money advertisingw to them.  F and the Number One reason Why We Won't See Any VMS Advertising From HP ........  < It works, so we don't need to lie about it with advertising.    + "Bill" <billmuy@attbi.com> wrote in message6( news:2XE29.130348$uh7.20947@sccrnsc03...; > "Keith A. Lewis" <lewis@mazda.mitre.org> wrote in message * > news:aiemuo$11f$1@newslocal.mitre.org...3 > > "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> writes in article J > <Rnx29.5279$wh1.2646@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com> dated Fri, 02 Augd > 2002 15:17:05 GMT:A > > >Dell is thinking about getting into the printer business. Inr retaliations > HP > >oF > > Can you explain what this has to do with the VMS operating system? > >o >hG > From his last paragraph, it seems that he now expects HP's enterprisepK > business, presumably VMS, to subsidize its printer business by taking thei > hit for the lost revenue!!!! >i > Bill >e >    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Aug 2002 09:44:46 -0700 1 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) 1 Subject: Re: Clear remains of dead cluster memberl= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0208060844.2be7bc1f@posting.google.com>   K danco@pebble.org wrote in message news:<slrnakunl0.iu4.danco@pebble.org>...A< > In article <3D4F5657.7A4C3E30@telusplanet.net>, Lee wrote:K > > You will have to perform a rolling reboot of the remaining nodes.  EachFI > > rebooted node will no longer display the drives or the dropped nodes.  > L > The lost devices will disappear this way, but in my experience the clusterL > won't totally 'forget' about the SCSNODE and SCSSYSTEMID of a dropped node2 > until all nodes are taken down at the same time?  F A cluster node's "memory" of the SCSNODE and SCSSYSTEMID are containedF in the System Block (SB) data structure.  There's also a bunch of infoE about a node in the Cluster System Block (CSB).  You can see the data F in these two structures when you do $SHOW CLUSTER/CONTINUOUS, with ADDD SYSTEMS/ALL and ADD MEMBERS/ALL, respectively.  A departed node will> show up in a BRK_NON state in the STATUS column under MEMBERS.  B A System Block is created when a node is discovered by SCS pollingE (which is emulated on LANs by PEDRIVER using Hello packets).  Once anbF SCS node is discovered, a VMS system will attempt to make a connectionD from its VMS$VAXcluster SYSAP to the VMS$VAXcluster SYSAP on the newE node.  A Cluster System Block is created if that is successful.  (Theu= Connection Manager uses the VMS$VAXcluster SYSAP connection.)   A So a rolling reboot will be sufficient to erase memory of a given = SCSNODE/SCSSYSTEMID from a cluster, since the SB and CSB data F structures for a given node won't "come back" after a reboot unless we actually see the system.: ----------------------------------------------------------: Keith Parris | parris <at> DECUServe <dot> decus <dot> org   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 16:18:44 -0400u) From: Virginia Rogers <vrogers@umich.edu>o& Subject: Re: Compression on DLT backup) Message-ID: <3D502F24.14C6DF8E@umich.edu>F  K By images, I mean nuclear medicine images of the body, where the part beingeL imaged (for example the brain) is in the middle of a 128x128 matrix, and the# surrounding pixels are mostly zero.-   Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:1 > * > And to "see" your ECO's on your system : >  > $ set term/wid=132 > $ prod show prod /full > : > And just another thing, that someone else might have sad > earlier, but anyway. > < > The amount of "compaction" that you can get from the driveA > is highly depending on what kind of data you backup. Text filessA > with large sequences of space characters are amongst the "best" > > ones, and already compressed files such as ZIP files are the' > "worst" ones from this point of view.u > : > "Images" (do you mean EXE's ?) are probably somewhere in@ > between, but if the drive can't "see" any compressable patternB > in it's current buffer it can't do much about it. The drive just, > sees a small part of the file at the time. >  > Jan-Erik Sderholm.i >  > MikeR wrote: > > > > > On Tue, 06 Aug 2002 10:15:32 -0400, Virginia Rogers wrote: > >  > > > John Santos wrote: > > >> > > >> Which ECO's do you have?c > > >>) > > > John, I'm not sure what ECO's are.!  > > >s# > > ECO = Engineering Change Ordersh > > commonly called "patches",   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 23:25:32 GMT-4 From: "Andy Bustamante" <a_c_bustamante@bigfoot.com>& Subject: Re: Compression on DLT backupA Message-ID: <MVY39.622$M4.71176@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>   $ For a slightly more compact display:   $ product show history   --   Andy Bustamantet( remove the ascii-95's to reply by e-mail      3 "Jan-Erik Sderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message3! news:3D4FEEA5.28E5DDA7@aaa.com...i* > And to "see" your ECO's on your system : >r > $ set term/wid=132 > $ prod show prod /full >g   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Aug 2002 17:04 CDT' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)-& Subject: Re: Compression on DLT backup, Message-ID: <6AUG200217041750@gerg.tamu.edu>  - Virginia Rogers <vrogers@umich.edu> writes...uL }By images, I mean nuclear medicine images of the body, where the part beingM }imaged (for example the brain) is in the middle of a 128x128 matrix, and the $ }surrounding pixels are mostly zero.   What format are the images in?  G If it is a format that has good (but hopefully, for the patient's sake,tC lossless) compression, like PNG for example, they probably won't beu+ compressed by the DLT drive much if at all.a   --- Carl   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 13:38:37 -0600 From: "KDP" <Kelly@Center7.com>d' Subject: Re: Counting records in a filet6 Message-ID: <3d502263$1_6@corp-goliath.newsgroups.com>   David,J MRN is an attribute that limits the number of records in a file.  The onlyI ways, in DCL I know of are through sort, search and other utilities whichqL /COUNT or /STAT gives info on record counts.  If you need the file sorted or@ searched it is free otherwise something in C would be efficient.   Later,   Kellye  3 "David Gray" <GrayD@turpinltd.com> wrote in messageTL news:79DE14DAA1A8D3119B6E00805FEB980BAE4099@zakary.turpin-distribution.com.. .  > Greetings all, >rH > In an existing overnight procedure it is necessary to write a count ofF > records in a file to a history table.  There are quite often a large amountI > of records in this file and to open it up a read through it counting ishK > quite time consuming.  I was wondering if there is anyway in DCL of doing K > this, I have tried the lexical function f$file_attributes but have had non
 > success. >> > XTS_APACHE> type junk.txtC > 1i > 2l > 3r > 4n > 5  > 6e- > XTS_APACHE> recs = F$file("junk.txt","MRN")o > XTS_APACHE> show symbol recs2 >   RECS = 0   Hex = 00000000  Octal = 00000000000
 > XTS_APACHE>  > ! > Am I missing something obvious?  >f > Thanks in advancer >s > David.        K -----------== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Uncensored Usenet News ==----------iG    http://www.newsfeed.com       The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! M -----= Over 100,000 Newsgroups - Unlimited Fast Downloads - 19 Servers =-----l   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 01:16:05 GMT 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>e' Subject: Re: Counting records in a filem' Message-ID: <3D50799D.73CFD161@fsi.net>m   David Gray wrote:g >  > Greetings all, > H > In an existing overnight procedure it is necessary to write a count ofM > records in a file to a history table.  There are quite often a large amountmI > of records in this file and to open it up a read through it counting is K > quite time consuming.  I was wondering if there is anyway in DCL of doingUK > this, I have tried the lexical function f$file_attributes but have had noo
 > success. >  > XTS_APACHE> type junk.txtt > 1? > 2s > 3b > 4s > 5V > 6 - > XTS_APACHE> recs = F$file("junk.txt","MRN")I > XTS_APACHE> show symbol recs2 >   RECS = 0   Hex = 00000000  Octal = 00000000000
 > XTS_APACHE>e > ! > Am I missing something obvious?-  E Well, I don't know how obvious it should be, but MRN is relevant onlyn for relative files.A  F About the only "easy" way, other than what has already been posted, isH (and this is only good for fixed record lengths) to guesstimate the byteE count for the file based on EOL (the count of blocks actually in use)rC minus one + FFB (the first free byte) minus one, then divide by theI: record size to get a reasonable guess at the record count.  E For variable record length files, use the SEARCH hack posted earlier./  E This is a hack I wrote a while back to calculate the byte "size" of aa file:P  # DJAS01::DDACHTERA$ ty [.exe]fsz.com" $!$ $!      FSZ.COM -       14-May-1997  $!; $!      Calculate a file's approximate size using availablep $!      RMS attributes.n $! $ say := write sys$outputs$ $ if p1 .nes. "" then goto calc_size $ say " Usage: FSZ filespec" $ exit $calc_size:s $ prev_fsp := 
 $src_loop: $ fsp = f$sear( p1 ); $ if (fsp .eqs. "") .and. (prev_fsp .eqs. "") then goto fnffE $ if (fsp .eqs. "") .or. (fsp .eqs. prev_fsp) then goto exit_src_loopr $ if prev_fsp .eqs. "" then -  $ prev_fsp = fsp $ ffb = f$file( fsp, "ffb" ) $ eof = f$file( fsp, "eof" )/ $ if eof .lt. 0 then eof = f$file( fsp, "alq" )o $ IF    EOF .NE. 0 $ THEN $       IF      FFB .NE. 0 $       THEN9 $               fsIzE = ( eof * 512 ) - (512 - (ffb - 1))t $       ELSE% $               fsIzE = ( EOF * 512 )i
 $       ENDIFr $ ELSE $       FSIZE = 0" $ ENDIF / $ say f$fao( "!AS - !UL byte!%S.", fsp, fsIzE )r $ goto src_loopa $exit_src_loop:r $ exit $fnf:  $ status = %x00000912s $ say f$message( status )t $ say "  \''p1'\"L $ exit status + %X10000000   -- t David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systemsm http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/-   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 01:31:33 GMTe1 From: "Deane Williams" <dwilliams296@comcast.net>M Subject: Datatreve and jpegsA Message-ID: <VL_39.133999$nm.4787180@bin5.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>a   Hello < Is there a way to  have the software link to jpegs or gifs??7 This is for any version on both Alpha and VAX . I could 9 switch to Orcale but the price doesnot really justify theu switch.  Thanks   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:14:51 GMT  From: schiffkey@cfl.rr.com Subject: Re: DCL Questione5 Message-ID: <3d4fbd96.3730944@news-server.cfl.rr.com>C   and i thought it was E    on error then continue 3 better yet... i could look it up in the dcl manual.b< its a zipped file - does anyone else want it mailed to them?   schiffkey@cfl.rr.com A    D On Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:47:56 -0400, MikeR <mike@rechtman.com> wrote:  1 >On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:05:06 -0400, James wrote:p >iF >> Is possible to write a DCL batch file so when ever you encounter an7 >> error, just resume to the next command and continue?s >t
 >$SET NOON >???   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 14:36:34 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>n Subject: Re: DCL Questiont8 Message-ID: <3tjvkuspivec1uvnq6el6lfjdovfjni1l8@4ax.com>  = On Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:14:51 GMT, schiffkey@cfl.rr.com wrote:u   >and i thought it was  >   on error then continue  = This will trap the first error. A second error will terminatea   $ HELP ON EXAMPLEn  (        1.$ ON SEVERE_ERROR THEN CONTINUE  C          A command procedure that contains this statement continueslB          to execute normally when a warning or error occurs during@          execution. When a severe error occurs, the ON statement signalshA          the procedure to execute the next statement anyway. OnceeB          the statement has been executed as a result of the severeD          error condition, the default action (ON ERROR THEN EXIT) is          reinstated.        4 >better yet... i could look it up in the dcl manual.= >its a zipped file - does anyone else want it mailed to them?s >  >schiffkey@cfl.rr.com  >  >nE >On Mon, 05 Aug 2002 10:47:56 -0400, MikeR <mike@rechtman.com> wrote:c >o2 >>On Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:05:06 -0400, James wrote: >>G >>> Is possible to write a DCL batch file so when ever you encounter ani8 >>> error, just resume to the next command and continue? >> >>$SET NOONV >>???    -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:35:23 +0100i( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> Subject: Re: dectalk fuse type?.) Message-ID: <3D4FDEAB.9324016F@127.0.0.1>R   Michael Zarlenga wrote:- > B > In comp.os.vms Ben Bridgwater <bbridgwater@myrealbox.com> wrote: > : Hi,d > H > : I've just aquired a dectalk dtc-01 that was used in the UK, and wantD > : to use use it in the US myself, which the manual says requires aI > : different mains fuse (& fuse holder), but doesn't say what exact fuse( > : is required... > A > Well, since it probably draws the same power, and since US line D > voltage is 117, if you know the UK line voltage, you can calculate > the fuse rating (in amps) :i > 5 >                                     UK line voltagei3 > new fuse (amps) = old fuse (amps) * -------------D- >                                         117T  A UK voltage used to be 240v, although it's now dropped to 230v fort European compliance.  D Basically in your case double the fuse rating, a T would indicate an antisurge type.o  G As to different fuseholder, UK mains regulations (among others) specifycG that a screwdriver or other such tool is required to access the fuse infD the holder, I don't know about your regulations, I'm not sure, apartG from a correctly fitting fuse. 20mm and 1.25 inch lengths are common oniH equipment in the UK. (Mains plugs to wall sockets commonly fitted with 1 inch size).t   --  ? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences/ nclews at csc dot coml   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 15:58:53 -04000 From: "Syltrem" <syltremspammenot@videotron.com>/ Subject: Re: device full: wrong error messages?i4 Message-ID: <kSV39.7922$H67.42452@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>  C I had a similar problem last week on a VAX 4200 running OpenVMS 7.3   K A SHOW DEVICE D would show lots of free space where in fact there were noner> (as demonstrated by a COPY/ALLOC=10 or a DIR/GRAND [*...]/SIZ)  F To find out if the indexf.sys (or quota.sys ?) is "out of synch"  do : $ SHOW DEVICE /REBUILD ddcu:  . If the system says that it must be rebuilt, do  $ SET VOLUME/REBUILD=FORCE ddcu:   That solved my problem.o  D Why this happened? Not entirely sure. I had one of the nodes (2-nodeJ cluster) crash with a PKDRIVER failure. The problem may have started then. Dunno.   HTHN   --   Syltrem I http://pages.infinit.net/syltrem (OpenVMS related web site - en franais)F> To reply to myself directly, remove .spammenot from my address  I "Tom Simpson" <simpsont@attbi.com.fubar> a crit dans le message de news:c3 ASR29.269011$uw.152768@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...qA > We had a similar experience last weekend during our weekly filep conversions.! > No explanation so far from CSC.  >l > The process went like this: 9 > 1. convert large RMS file ==> to empty drive, no errors.B > 2. delete original file (delete/log),  delete status was success3 > 3. copy the converted file back to original drivel7 > 4. the copy failed because the output drive was full.  >tD > The converted file is smaller than the original file, so how could > the drive be full? >/K > No users are on the system while this process occurs.  No Batch processes5	 > runningm% > other than the file conversion job.cK > The command procedure does a stop/id on any interactive users to be sure.4 >$G > So either the delete, really didn't or the drive was not really full.oD > An analyze/disk/repair on the disk in question indicted no errors. >g	 > My $.02u >y
 > Regards, > Tomr >'H > "Phillip Helbig" <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> wrote in message7 > news:01KKTSPIA8UM96Z9MP@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com...a+ > > > I'll bet that your RUJ device filled.h > >1J > > It did---before I got the error.  When I got the error, there was more > > than enough space. > >oL > > > as the program exited, the RUJ file was deleted and thus things looked > > > better all of a sudden.a > >hH > > Makes sense.  Is the following summary correct?  When the RUJ deviceK > > filled up, there was the "cannot extend" error.  An ARBITRARY amount of E > > time later, after having created some space on the device (NOT bysK > > removing anything from the database!), this now-obsolete error crops updH > > in a new command issued in a completely different context.  In otherI > > words, the error state gets "frozen" when the device fills up and the6E > > corresponding errors can appear later, when the problem no longer: > > exists.  >D >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 22:35:55 +0200P9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>S/ Subject: Re: device full: wrong error messages?a' Message-ID: <3D50332B.A42E5AAA@aaa.com>e  9 Now when you mentioned it, I saw a case a couple of weekst? ago where SHO DEV and DIR/GRAND reported different "free" space C on a particular disk. A ANA/DISK shows a bunch of "homeless" files,:D that is files without any directory entry, or files that, when still@ opened, showed a diectory of [] in SH DEV /FILE. IT was a couple5 of leftover tmp files from a dumping Rdb application.e  > ANA/DISK/REP moved all this files to [SYSLOST] where they then1 could be deleted and the free space was restored.>  A But in this case SHO DEV showed a full disk, and DIR/GRAND showedm? lots of free space, so it's not exactly the same scenario as ine the original post...   Jan-Erik Sderholm.t   Syltrem wrote: > E > I had a similar problem last week on a VAX 4200 running OpenVMS 7.3a > M > A SHOW DEVICE D would show lots of free space where in fact there were nonen@ > (as demonstrated by a COPY/ALLOC=10 or a DIR/GRAND [*...]/SIZ) >S   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 23:35:30 GMT . From: "Tom Simpson" <simpsont@attbi.com.fubar>/ Subject: Re: device full: wrong error messages?t, Message-ID: <63Z39.15783$nF5.3623@sccrnsc02>  F All areas are identified as best_try_contiguous = yes.  Is it possible analyze/disk/repairwE "fixed" the problem, but did not call out any errors?  Nothing was inB SYSLOSTr/ after the analyze.  It ran ok Sunday morning...w  E I've gotten a lot of good suggestions and things to check should this  problem occur again.   Thanks,w Tomt ------------------2 IDENT   " 3-JUN-2001 11:37:17  OpenVMS FDL Editor"   SYSTEM)         SOURCE                  "OpenVMS"c   FILE#         BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS     yeso"         FILE_MONITORING         no!         GLOBAL_BUFFER_COUNT     0l'         ORGANIZATION            indexede   RECORD#         BLOCK_SPAN              yesu/         CARRIAGE_CONTROL        carriage_returna%         FORMAT                  fixede#         SIZE                    512e   AREA 0'         ALLOCATION              3194730-#         BEST_TRY_CONTIGUOUS     yes>"         BUCKET_SIZE             18%         EXTENSION               65535     < "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message! news:3D4F2A7A.C56904F2@fsi.net...n > Tom Simpson wrote: > > ; > > $       say "******************* CONVERTING MASTER FILEe *******************"B > > ******************* CONVERTING MASTER FILE ******************* > > $       show timet > >   28-JUL-2002 03:54:40= > > $       convert/nosort/stat/fdl=fdl:master.fdl master$dat  cvt_dir:master.dat >y> > Does the FDL perhaps specify that the file should be created > contiguously?a >hF > If so, free space on the target volume may be so fragmented that theF > system can't find enough contiguous free space to create the file as > specified. >aG > If not, free space on the target volume may be so fragmented that thehE > system requires more file headers (extension headers) to record thesF > available extents than are available in the INDEXF.SYS of the target	 > volume.( >yG > In either case, try specifying CONTIGUOUS_BEST_TRY YES in the FDL. ItaI > may still fail, in which case, you'll need to BACKUP/RESTORE the volumec? > to defragment the free space (unless you have a DFO license).e >m > -- > David J. Dachteram > dba DJE Systemst > http://www.djesys.com/ >2* > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Aug 2002 16:49 CDT' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) - Subject: Re: Help - TPU Global_search_replacee, Message-ID: <6AUG200216495520@gerg.tamu.edu>  # sasadmin <jec@nospam.net> writes...-) }David Gray <GrayD@turpinltd.com> writes:i } N }> I currently have about five different characters that need substituting andM }> wondered if it is possible to give the TPU procedure a number of values to M }> be replaced and have it perform this without positioning to the top of theb }> buffer before each one.   }> " } G }Maybe use the optional direction keyword (1) FORWARD; (2) REVERSE; (3)o	 }FORWARD?  } G }I know it's hokey, but otherwise you must inform g_s_r() which patterngE }to use. Then, you can use the pattern alternation operator to search G }for all three patterns at once, and use CASE to select the appropriatep }substitution string.1 } @ }Also, you could simply code a few calls to the appropriate eve$E }routines. I believe eve's gsr has an optional direction flag. If youaD }call the routine directly, you can supply the flag and override theI }usual default to ask when the pattern's found in the opposite direction.   H Or you could probably just add a command at the end of the proceedure to7 set the current location to be the start of the buffer.l   --- Carl   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 01:06:46 GMT 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>g- Subject: Re: Help - TPU Global_search_replace7' Message-ID: <3D50776E.EEC05FC3@fsi.net>a   David Gray wrote:3 >  > Greetings all, > N > I have a TPU procedure that opens a file, positions to the top of buffer andN > using global_search_replace substitutes all occurrences of X with Y.  I thenK > position to the top of buffer and substitute all occurrences of A with B.h > M > I currently have about five different characters that need substituting and L > wondered if it is possible to give the TPU procedure a number of values toL > be replaced and have it perform this without positioning to the top of the > buffer before each one.n > 1 > Perhaps this pseudo code will explain better...t >  > Currentlye > Postion to top of buffer  > Global_search_replace("A","B") > Postion to top of buffer  > Global_search_replace("C","D") > Postion to top of buffer  > Global_search_replace("E","F") > Write file > " > I would like to do the following > Postion to top of buffer  > Global_search_replace("A","B")  > Global_search_replace("C","D")  > Global_search_replace("E","F") > Write file   Any reason you can't use EDT?(   $ EDIT/EDT/NOJOURNAL filespec  S/A/B/WHOLE/NOTYPE S/C/D/WHOLE/NOTYPE S/E/F/WHOLE/NOTYPE EXIT $ EODT   -- E David J. Dachterai dba DJE Systemso http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/r   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Aug 2002 14:20:16 -0700 / From: chris@applied-synergy.com (Chris Scheers),2 Subject: Re: Help with vax3200 (Maximun disk size)= Message-ID: <754a27c1.0208061320.5c99a9e8@posting.google.com>u  R "cmiink" <cmiink@msn.com> wrote in message news:<udiGQtIPCHA.1888@cpimsnntpa03>...M > Sorry if this plea for help is off subject for this news group but I need a E > quick answer. What is the limit of store (size) with a vax3200 witheA > VMS 5.3 OS?  I need to increase the Seagate 1.0Gbyte (Hawk 2XL)hH > to the maximum allowed.  Also is there a larger replacement drive that# > will work with this system conf.?h > TIAn > John Pittman  C Another message reported the hard VMS limits.  (In general, VMS 5.3 ' restricts you to about 8GB for a disk.)   D However, you need to check something else.  I think the Seagate HawkA is a SCSI drive.  By VAX3200, I assume that you mean a VAXstationFC 3200.  This does not have native SCSI support, so you need to check0" the limitations of your SCSI card.  F If you meant to say VAXstation 3100, there is native SCSI support, butF the boot drive MUST be 1.073GB or less.  Data drives can be up to 8GB.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 23:04:27 GMTo0 From: "brad.madison" <brad.madison@mail.tds.net>2 Subject: Re: Help with vax3200 (Maximun disk size), Message-ID: <3D5055FA.166B1CDB@mail.tds.net>   Chris Scheers wrote: > T > "cmiink" <cmiink@msn.com> wrote in message news:<udiGQtIPCHA.1888@cpimsnntpa03>...O > > Sorry if this plea for help is off subject for this news group but I need aoG > > quick answer. What is the limit of store (size) with a vax3200 withtC > > VMS 5.3 OS?  I need to increase the Seagate 1.0Gbyte (Hawk 2XL)!J > > to the maximum allowed.  Also is there a larger replacement drive that% > > will work with this system conf.?t > > TIAn > > John Pittman > E > Another message reported the hard VMS limits.  (In general, VMS 5.3l) > restricts you to about 8GB for a disk.)  > F > However, you need to check something else.  I think the Seagate HawkC > is a SCSI drive.  By VAX3200, I assume that you mean a VAXstationhE > 3200.  This does not have native SCSI support, so you need to checkp$ > the limitations of your SCSI card. > H > If you meant to say VAXstation 3100, there is native SCSI support, butH > the boot drive MUST be 1.073GB or less.  Data drives can be up to 8GB.  F I can't remember and I ask only for completeness: can it not support aD drive larger than 8 Gb or can it not use more than 8 GB on a drive? F There is a difference.  But if it just supports the 1st 8GB on a driveD then one could use a larger drive, particularly if it were something< like an old 18 Gb with no other place it could be installed.   --  0G Stop relay spam by Labor Day, 2002.  It can be done and is worth doing.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 17:26:45 -0700# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> 2 Subject: RE: Help with vax3200 (Maximun disk size)9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIEEDIFIAA.tom@kednos.com>a   >-----Original Message-----36 >From: brad.madison [mailto:brad.madison@mail.tds.net]' >Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 4:04 PM  >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com3 >Subject: Re: Help with vax3200 (Maximun disk size)t >t >r >e >t >Chris Scheers wrote:l >> t. >> "cmiink" <cmiink@msn.com> wrote in message ( >news:<udiGQtIPCHA.1888@cpimsnntpa03>...D >> > Sorry if this plea for help is off subject for this news group 
 >but I need abH >> > quick answer. What is the limit of store (size) with a vax3200 withD >> > VMS 5.3 OS?  I need to increase the Seagate 1.0Gbyte (Hawk 2XL)K >> > to the maximum allowed.  Also is there a larger replacement drive thatf& >> > will work with this system conf.? >> > TIA >> > John Pittmanm >> mF >> Another message reported the hard VMS limits.  (In general, VMS 5.3* >> restricts you to about 8GB for a disk.) >>  G >> However, you need to check something else.  I think the Seagate HawksD >> is a SCSI drive.  By VAX3200, I assume that you mean a VAXstationF >> 3200.  This does not have native SCSI support, so you need to check% >> the limitations of your SCSI card.3 >> sI >> If you meant to say VAXstation 3100, there is native SCSI support, butcI >> the boot drive MUST be 1.073GB or less.  Data drives can be up to 8GB.t >eG >I can't remember and I ask only for completeness: can it not support aEE >drive larger than 8 Gb or can it not use more than 8 GB on a drive? AG >There is a difference.  But if it just supports the 1st 8GB on a drivexE >then one could use a larger drive, particularly if it were somethingn= >like an old 18 Gb with no other place it could be installed.   J Unless it wraps the address as a 3100 does from the console, in which case you would have problems.   >e >--o > H >Stop relay spam by Labor Day, 2002.  It can be done and is worth doing. >s >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.i; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).e@ >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002t   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 20:54:26 -0700% From: "Maddog" <Kelly@kphillipps.com>V) Subject: Re: how to delete recursively...-4 Message-ID: <3d5097f5_3@corp-goliath.newsgroups.com>  : Why Stuck? That version of Ingres runs on 7.3 does it not?      . "Jim Agnew" <jpagnew@vcu.edu> wrote in message! news:3D45471F.E30C05FA@vcu.edu... G > That version is for current versions of vms, right?  which one is fori
 > vms 5.5-2??e >s- > I'm stuck there because of Ingres 6.4-04...  > ! > david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk wrote:U > >e9 > > In article <01KKK9394GWI000P5G@tgmail.tg.nsw.gov.au>,u' paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au writes:e > > >John Forkosh wrote: > > > / > > >>Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> wrote: # > > >>: aniruddha patwardhan wrote: 	 > > >>: >  > > >>: > hiJ > > >>: > I want to delete a directory structure recursively. I am finding VMS : > > >>: > alternative for rm -rf. How to go about this???? > > >> > > >>: Look for DELTREE.COM > > >>: 5 > > >>: http://vms.process.com/fileserv-software.html4 > > >h+ > > >Or CSWING which is on the Freeware CD.c > > >c > >  > > Or better still use DFU  > >u > > eg > >T4 > > DFU DEL/TREE/DIR   device:[dir1.dir2]goodbye.dir > >eE > > This will do it very fast compared to the other methods if any ofr: > > the sub-directories contain gigantic numbers of files. > >r > > This is available on > >a> > > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/freeware/freeware50/dfu027a/ > >. > > David Webb > > VMS and Unix team leader > > CCSS > > Middlesex university > >n > > >e@ > > >>Or, if goodbye.dir is what you want to delete recursively,< > > >>just set def to the directory immediately above it and$ > > >>   $ delete [.goodbye...]*.*;*G > > >>Then if you get any errors trying to delete nonempty directories,.F > > >>just up-arrow and do it again (and again) until it runs cleanly. > > >>Then, finally, > > >>   $ delete goodbye.dir; > > >e" > > >$ set prot= o:rwed [...]*.dir- > > >$ delete [...]*.*;*,*.*;*,*.*;*, - ! ...f > > >p= > > >The above should have 8 items in total, but I'm lazy :-)A > > > L > > >Hmm, now we can go lower, so increase the number of items.  Can DELTREE or > > >CSWING? > > >  > > >Regards, Paddyd        K -----------== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Uncensored Usenet News ==----------cG    http://www.newsfeed.com       The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! M -----= Over 100,000 Newsgroups - Unlimited Fast Downloads - 19 Servers =-----e   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:58:23 +0100f% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>i4 Subject: Re: Itanic2 - the cHumPaq spin continues...8 Message-ID: <igdvkuocolblo1e0cs8fm0oa1lvlvpvts5@4ax.com>  E On 6 Aug 2002 11:04:31 GMT, nmm1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Nick Maclaren) wrote:r     >1@ >Hmm.  The page I have just found starts them at $5,865 and that@ >model is 'backordered'.  The cheapest model currently available= >is $8,340, and that has only JUST become available - i.e. itR@ >wasn't last week - ALL IA-64 systems were 'backordered' and had2 >been since the announcement.  To get there, go to  D Strange. The major difference seems to be the graphics card.  ApproxE $3,000 dollars more for a 3D graphics card and a *smaller* hard disk?tE Or have I missed something? Unless the shortage is in the Radeon 7000eB graphics card (and according to the ATI web site it is in stock atC $59). I don't see how the cheaper system is "backordered" while therB more expensive system is available for immediate delivery - unless someone is 'fiddling'.  @ Hmm, further research shows that the Fire 4 (as used in the moreE expensive system) lists at $599. So why the huge HP price difference?d > : >    http://www.bstore.hp.com/cgi-bin/hpbs/initsession.jsp >c> >and follow the 'workstations' and 'personal workstations with >64-bit architecture' links. >a? >I can easily believe that there are other pages with differentr
 >information.t >e >r	 >Regards,a >Nick Maclaren,e+ >University of Cambridge Computing Service,e? >New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England.a >Email:  nmm1@cam.ac.uk 0 >Tel.:  +44 1223 334761    Fax:  +44 1223 334679   -- Alan   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 13:54:39 GMTR5 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> 4 Subject: Re: Itanic2 - the cHumPaq spin continues...2 Message-ID: <zyQ39.14$7T7.377965@news.cpqcorp.net>  K Hmmm.  I could swear when I looked at the page right after the announcement C that it was under 5k.  But you are right, the page shows just < 6k.6      " Nick Maclaren wrote in message ... >w3 >In article <0ch19.23$JG2.958548@news.cpqcorp.net>,-8 >"Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> writes:H >|> Paul Repacholi wrote in message <87n0sa78ck.fsf@prep.synonet.com>...< >|> >"Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> writes: >|> >2H >|> >> The only regret I have is that we didn't start the port to IA64 aK >|> >> year or so earlier... because we could be selling VMS on those < $5kn$ >|> >> Itanium 2 workstations today. >|> >o/ >|> >Where can I find details of <$5K machines?i >|> >  >|> www.hp.com >|> J >|> The single CPU Itanium-2 workstation (zx2000) is listed as starting at justH >|> under $5000.  We've just ordered a bunch, along with rx2600 dual CPU serversi >|> for development. >e@ >Hmm.  The page I have just found starts them at $5,865 and that@ >model is 'backordered'.  The cheapest model currently available= >is $8,340, and that has only JUST become available - i.e. it @ >wasn't last week - ALL IA-64 systems were 'backordered' and had2 >been since the announcement.  To get there, go to >n: >    http://www.bstore.hp.com/cgi-bin/hpbs/initsession.jsp > > >and follow the 'workstations' and 'personal workstations with >64-bit architecture' links. >/? >I can easily believe that there are other pages with different0
 >information.  >r > 	 >Regards,n >Nick Maclaren,.+ >University of Cambridge Computing Service,r? >New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England.l >Email:  nmm1@cam.ac.uk 0 >Tel.:  +44 1223 334761    Fax:  +44 1223 334679   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:53:15 GMTt1 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com>o# Subject: Klez du jour... be warned! , Message-ID: <HhS39.12230$UU1.2967@sccrnsc03>  ! Return-Path: <markgao@ureach.com>hB Received: from tru64.org ([208.17.152.120]) by rwcrgwc54.attbi.comG           (InterMail vM.4.01.03.34 201-229-121-134-20020625) with ESMTP E           id <20020806135710.UACB22288.rwcrgwc54.attbi.com@tru64.org> F           for <terryshannon@attbi.com>; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 13:57:10 +0000# Received: from <markgao@ureach.com>_,   by tru64.org (CommuniGate Pro RULES 3.4b7)7   with RULES id 313111; Tue, 06 Aug 2002 09:55:22 -0400  X-Autogenerated: Mirror # X-Mirrored-by: <markgao@ureach.com> ? Received: from smtp1.cybersurf.net ([209.197.145.111] verified) +   by tru64.org (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4b7) E   with ESMTP id 313110 for terryshannon@openvms.org; Tue, 06 Aug 2002o 09:55:08 -0400= Received: from Icn ([209.197.175.182]) by smtp1.cybersurf.netoH           (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id H0FDD900.9DJ forD           <terryshannon@openvms.org>; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 07:55:57 -0600# From: fdforum <fdforum@hotmail.com>h To: terryshannon@openvms.org Subject: Worm Klez.E immunityo MIME-Version: 1.0t$ Content-Type: multipart/alternative;*  boundary=SY57k371412961XZ05Sl17p10z4p0H6K% Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 09:55:08 -0400y) Message-ID: <auto-000000313110@tru64.org>o    J Klez.E is the most common world-wide spreading worm.It's very dangerous by corrupting your files.L Because of its very smart stealth and anti-anti-virus technic,most common AV" software can't detect or clean it.C We developed this free immunity tool to defeat the malicious virus.eK You only need to run this tool once,and then Klez will never come into youre PC. I NOTE: Because this tool acts as a fake Klez to fool the real worm,some AVa" monitor maybe cry when you run it./ If so,Ignore the warning,and select 'continue'.e* If you have any question,please mail to me   -- Terry C. Shannon+ Consultant and Publisher, Shannon Knows HPC.8 Director, Technical Communications, Science Medicus Inc.% Director at Large, Encompass US, Inc.- terryshannon@attbi.com http://www.openvms.org   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:27:06 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>6' Subject: Re: Klez du jour... be warned!nJ Message-ID: <_xU39.294444$WJf1.29689@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  L http://securityresponse.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.klez.removal.too l.html  H Carefully read ALL the instructions on the web site associated with this tool before beginning its use.  - ---------------------------------------------b  D Symantec offers a tool to remove infections of all known variants of1 W32.Klez@mm and all known variants of W32.Elkern.   K To view an online demonstration on how to download and run this and several  other tools, click here.  & Note about W32.Klez.gen@mm detections:I W32.Klez.gen@mm is a generic detection that detects variants of W32.Klez.sF Computers that are infected with W32.Klez.gen@mm have most likely beenE exposed to either W32.Klez.E@mm or W32.Klez.H@mm. If your computer iscH detected as infected with W32.Klez.gen@mm, download and run the tool. In9 most case, the tool will be able to remove the infection.u   What the tool does- The W32.Klez Removal Tool does the following:m  C It terminates all processes that are associated with W32.Klez@mm ore W32.Elkern. $ It deletes the W32.Klez@mm services.A It removes the registry entries that were created by W32.Klez@mm.vJ It detects all types of W32.Klez@mm and W32.ElKern infections, and repairs files that can be repaired.5   NOTES:K A file that is infected with W32.Klez.E@mm or W32.Klez.H@mm includes a linkUH to the encrypted host file. If the encrypted file does not exist at thatJ link, the tool deletes the infected file because it is not repairable, and# the encrypted file is not restored.iG The W32.ElKern repair removes the viral code from the file. It does notfI ensure that a file that is repaired from W32.ElKern will run because thist virus often corrupts files.m   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:46:42 -0400g6 From: "John.Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq>' Subject: Re: Klez du jour... be warned!r4 Message-ID: <3D5027A2.3040300@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq>  A The KLEZ virus attached to a purported anti-virus message startedsB showing up on mailing lists at least a month ago.  You are late in getting your copy.  G If you are only getting a few a day, it means that you do not have manyf; "friends" that execute attachments on vulnerable platforms.(  G Based on where the abuse addresses showed up on the few that I receivedcF on an open mailing list before encompasserve started blackholing them,H it looks like some owners of the "1,000,000 spammable addresses" CD-ROMs
 got infected.y  E Since KLEZ apparently eventually zaps the hard drives, as long as new:? infections are prevented, the problem eventually cures it self.-  F My guess is that the virus writers are measuring their success by the I ammount of newsgroup posts and other publicity that reference their work.-   -John2 malmberg@dskwld.zko.compaq.hp. Personal Opinion Only"   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 13:03:54 -0400 - From: "Richard D. Piccard" <piccard@ohio.edu>r Subject: Re: KLEZ SPAMMER ALERT ( Message-ID: <3D50017B.472C40C5@ohio.edu>   Hoff Hoffman wrote:t > h > In article <q31jkukj17vepc97vdveljlsn9oqbu1e32@4ax.com>, Steve Lionel <Steve.Lionel@intel.com> writes:7 > :On Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:54:10 GMT, "Terry C. Shannon" " > :<terryshannon@attbi.com> wrote: > : M > :>FYI I just received today's copy of Klez from some lamers who are in dire H > :>need of a fast trial and an equally fast hanging in a public square. > ..I > :Probably not.  The annoying thing about Klez is that it fakes the Fromn1 > :address based on someone in your address book.S   [snip]    U I am pretty sure that Klez harvests E-mail addresses for the From and the To from thenX browser's cache files, as well, so if your address is on any Web page, you are likely toT eventually be on the receiving end of Klez traffic or of rejection notices from lameX anti-virus software that hasn't been programmed to silently swallow Klez message, in theP sure and certain knowledge that the person who appears to have sent it did NOT.   V If you are only just now seeing Klez traffic, you have lead a sheltered life!  For theV last several month, 95% of the E-mail traffic to the Ohio University Web Team (which IU routinely triage) has been Klez.  Since I am getting the mail through an IMAP server, Z using Mulberry on a Mac, it is just a signal-to-noise-ratio problem in that inbox.  It hasZ reached the point that I now sort the traffice by message size, and discard, sight-unseen,% all messages of 100 KBytes or above. s  
 							RDP -- rB ==================================================================B Dick Piccard                           Academic Technology ManagerB piccard@ohio.edu                                 Computer ServicesB http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~piccard/                Ohio University   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 17:39:14 -0400% From: "J.G. Peters" <jpeters@sct.com>e Subject: LP27 Printer Processorh# Message-ID: <wkX39.2$vJ5.82@client>   
 Greetings,  9 We've got an LP27 that's displaying a status code of "90"e8 upon power-up. We've tried reseating the board but to no< avail. We've been able to determine that we need two parts -( 29-24325 (CCA, processor (w/o PROMS) and7 29-24322 (Prom kit, processor). Might anyone have these = parts, uh, sitting around waiting for someone who needs them?c? If not, can someone point us in the direction of where we might B find them? I have an estimateof 4-5 hundred for parts/installation0 from one outfit but that seems like quite a bit.   Thanks."   Joee   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:04:52 +0900& From: "David Lee" <phongle@kornet.net> Subject: mouse installed+ Message-ID: <aiocn9$9hr$1@news1.kornet.net>r  L Can a special mouse like Microsoft mouse, Optical mouse, or a mouse that hasG a tracking ball be installed on an Alpha workstation running VMS 7.1.2?    Does anyone have any ideas?e Thanks   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 21:43:36 -0400  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> Subject: Re: mouse installed4 Message-ID: <1020806213231.415A-100000@Ives.egh.com>  $ On Tue, 6 Aug 2002, David Lee wrote:  N > Can a special mouse like Microsoft mouse, Optical mouse, or a mouse that hasI > a tracking ball be installed on an Alpha workstation running VMS 7.1.2?i >  > Does anyone have any ideas?s > Thanks  E A friend of mine used to have a mouse on some kind of KVM shared withaC an iMac and an AlphaStation 200 4/100 running DEC Unix.  I think itoB was a Logitech optical mouse.  The monitor wasn't shared (the iMacB has a built-in monitor) and I think the keyboard was iffy, but theC "M" part of the KVM seemed to work fine.  IIRC, it was a PS/2 mousep@ with some kind of PS/2-USB adapter between the KVM and the iMac.6 Seems like a lot of complexity to avoid having 2 mice!  ? The Alpha is now my VMS hobbyist Alpha and has its original DECs< mouse back...  After I get V7.3-1 installed on it, I'm going> to take it home and cluster it with my VAX and try sharing the> monitor and mouse (Logitech optical) with my PC.  I'll let you know how it works.   --   John Santosr Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Aug 2002 14:53:33 -0700t1 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris)i. Subject: Re: No Andrew, slowaris can't be VMS!= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0208061353.2f97633d@posting.google.com>S  u keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) wrote in message news:<cf15391e.0208021511.77e944a@posting.google.com>...iF > Sure, giving 2004 as a date only gives them another 2.5 years to get > TruClusters into HP-UX  F Came across some interesting quotes on the topic in HP World Magazine,B July 2002 issue, in an article entitled "HP's Secret UNIX Weapon", page 39.  E "As expected, HP plans to 'port' Tru64 features, such as its Advanced-D File Syste, TruClusters, and others to HP-UX by the end of 2004.  HPD will continue to upgrade Tru64 for the next three versions (Wildcat,F Vail, and Utah) -- one each for the next three years).  Meanwhile, theB company will build migration tools to help Tru64 customers move to HP-UX."u ...tE "It has become clear over the past six months that Compaq had planned @ well before the merger was announced to transition from Tru64 to HP-UX."' ...cD 'We had a handful of discussions in the July-August [2001] timeframeB [about moving Compaq Tru64 systems to HP-UX],' said {Mark} Hudson"? {worldwide marketing manager for HP's Business Critical Systems 
 division.} ... ? "Hudson also pointed out that the early, pre-merger discussions F between HP and Compaq had a positive result: 'There was quite a bit ofF analysis being done by both engineering sides,' Hudson told HP World. B 'So we feel very good about our plans to integrate [Tru64 featuresA into] HP-UX.  That work had already been started [about] one yeart ago.'"  C So it appears they will have had 3.5 years to do the job instead of  2.5...: ----------------------------------------------------------: Keith Parris | parris <at> DECUServe <dot> decus <dot> org   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:41:17 GMTr From: schiffkey@cfl.rr.com0 Subject: Re: Onsite VMS support in Charlotte, NC5 Message-ID: <3d4fc3da.5335211@news-server.cfl.rr.com>f  
 Hello Michael    I am definitely interested.a  *   My email address is schiffkey@cfl.rr.com  2 On Fri, 26 Jul 2002 12:05:54 -0400, Michael Austin# <maustin@firstdbasource.com> wrote:s   >All,  > G >I may be accepting a permanent position in the next week or so and may E >be relocating out of state.  I have a client in South Charlotte that.G >needs occasional onsite support and I may need to locate a replacement D >for this client.  I will continue to provide dial-in support on theI >application (very stable since 1989 and vested to Alpha in 2001).  There I >are some web-enabled features they are now using and I plan on providing  >that support as well. > D >If you are interested, please drop me a note for the particulars.   >-- 	 >Regards,g >s7 >Michael Austin            OpenVMS User since June 1984 8 >First DBA Source, Inc.    Registered Linux User #2611638 >Sr. Consultant            http://www.firstdbasource.comF >                          http://www.firstdbasource.com/donation.html0 >704-947-1089 (Office)     704-236-4377 (Mobile) >    ------------------------------   Date: 6 Aug 2002 11:38:38 -0700j/ From: david_Awerbuch@yahoo.com (David Awerbuch)  Subject: OPCOM log fileo= Message-ID: <a50c2679.0208061038.1498eea2@posting.google.com>m  D Could someone please remind me, when OPCOM is started, where on diskF does he write his log files?  I am at a client, and for the life of meE can not find the file that I expect OPCOM creates.  Or am I wrong andT OPCOM does not write to a file?s   Thanks,e Dave A.A   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 13:27:24 -0600 From: "KDP" <Kelly@Center7.com>m Subject: Re: OPCOM log fileh4 Message-ID: <3d501fc3_4@corp-goliath.newsgroups.com>  ( OPCOM writes to SYS$MANAGER:OPERATOR.LOG< "David Awerbuch" <david_Awerbuch@yahoo.com> wrote in message7 news:a50c2679.0208061038.1498eea2@posting.google.com...eF > Could someone please remind me, when OPCOM is started, where on diskH > does he write his log files?  I am at a client, and for the life of meG > can not find the file that I expect OPCOM creates.  Or am I wrong ande! > OPCOM does not write to a file?s > 	 > Thanks,t	 > Dave A.S        K -----------== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Uncensored Usenet News ==----------iG    http://www.newsfeed.com       The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!iM -----= Over 100,000 Newsgroups - Unlimited Fast Downloads - 19 Servers =-----e   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 13:47:14 -0700* From: "Jack Peacock" <peacock@simconv.com> Subject: Re: OPCOM log file,4 Message-ID: <%DW39.2848$QV2.2699@news.webusenet.com>  < "David Awerbuch" <david_Awerbuch@yahoo.com> wrote in message7 news:a50c2679.0208061038.1498eea2@posting.google.com...eF > Could someone please remind me, when OPCOM is started, where on diskH > does he write his log files?  I am at a client, and for the life of me4 > can not find the file that I expect OPCOM creates. > I If you are on a cluster the OPERATOR.LOG file may be on a different node.t   Jack Peacock   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 23:17:37 +0200" From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl> Subject: Re: OPCOM log filer6 Message-ID: <aipedm$15ag6h$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>  > "David Awerbuch" <david_Awerbuch@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht7 news:a50c2679.0208061038.1498eea2@posting.google.com...aF > Could someone please remind me, when OPCOM is started, where on diskH > does he write his log files?  I am at a client, and for the life of meG > can not find the file that I expect OPCOM creates.  Or am I wrong and.! > OPCOM does not write to a file?a > 	 > Thanks,h	 > Dave A. L The operator.log file may be closed by REPLY/NOLOG and a new file is created with REPLY-LOG Hans   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 20:32:50 +0200l. From: Herbert Stoeri <stoeri@iap.tuwien.ac.at># Subject: Re: OpenVMS + HP JetDirecte/ Message-ID: <3D501652.3060000@iap.tuwien.ac.at>h  A There is a product, called "Printkit", sold by Northlake SoftwareU http://www.nls.com/   + We are using this since years with success.    Herbert Stoeri     Fabio Cardoso wrote:- > Any idea if OpenVMS will bring some kind oft" > integration with HP JetDirect  ?, > Would be great to have some printer status. > by Opcom or to create a HP JetDirect console/ > under Motif or character to manage the LPR ort > Telnetsym printers ...!!!iD +---------------------------------+--------------------------------+D | Herbert Stoeri                  | Phone: ++43(1)58801/13460      |D | Institut fuer Allgemeine Physik | Fax:   ++43(1)58801/13499      |D | Technische Universitaet Wien    | email: stoeri@iap.tuwien.ac.at |D | Wiedner Hauptstrasse 8-10       |                                |D | A-1040 Wien                     | http://www.iap.tuwien.ac.at/   |D | Austria                         |                                |D +---------------------------------+--------------------------------+   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:32:29 +0100S% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>2 Subject: Re: OpenVMS printerso8 Message-ID: <279vkuccnofl4murc9llvnp68dh88v9g11@4ax.com>  D On Tue, 06 Aug 2002 12:09:30 +0200, Jan-Erik Sderholm <aaa@aaa.com> wrote:  ? >On "http://www.genicom.com/usa/products/compaq.htm" there is a:< >complete list of "LG", "LA" and "LN" printers. 14 different@ >models in total complete with "Prices, Consumables, Accessories >and Upgrades", as they say.  A Yep I know and we still fairly regularly buy Genicom branded LA36oF printers.Point I was making about the LN32 is that it still appears to. be Compaq branded unlike the LA36 for example.  @ >As a side note, in the PDF specification sheet for the "LNM40",< >it says : "DECprint Supervisor (DCPS) software for VMS, PC > >and Macintosh systems". Is there a DCPS for Windows and Mac ? >v >Jan-Erik Sderholm. >z >Alan Greig wrote: >> nH >> We just bought another dozen LG14 line printer ribbons. Amusingly the, >> boxes and ribbons all still say "Digital" >> 0 >> The LN32 is still listed at: >> http://www.compaq.com/products/printers/ln32/index.html >> g >> --t >> Alana   -- Alan   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 17:36:34 GMTi* From: Paul Anderson <paul.anderson@hp.com> Subject: Re: OpenVMS printersd5 Message-ID: <060820021329535336%paul.anderson@hp.com>e  C In article <ug5vku8mr34jpc2olkhblq21g5nnig1423@4ax.com>, Alan Greigo <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote:h   > The LN32 is still listed ato9 > http://www.compaq.com/products/printers/ln32/index.html.  = Now _there's_ a page that needs to be updated and/or deleted!n  C In article <279vkuccnofl4murc9llvnp68dh88v9g11@4ax.com>, Alan Greigb <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote:i  B > Point I was making about the LN32 is that it still appears to be- > Compaq branded unlike the LA36 for example.m  H The LA36 is a current model, whereas the LN32 was discontinued in 1999. @ The LA36 started out as a Compaq printer and then changed to theC Genicom brand when the Compaq/Genicom printer deal expired in 2000.2  : In article <3D4FA05A.E38E1C86@aaa.com>, Jan-Erik Sderholm <aaa@aaa.com> wrote:  D > As a side note, in the PDF specification sheet for the "LNM40", itG > says : "DECprint Supervisor (DCPS) software for VMS, PC and Macintosh 1 > systems". Is there a DCPS for Windows and Mac ?-  D No.  The spec sheet is probably referring to the ability of AdvancedG Server and PATHWORKS software to serve DCPS print queues to the Windowso and Macintosh systems.  G In article <JpK39.115993$cU1.2928463@news.chello.at>, Peter LANGSTOEGERa <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote::  A > And yes, DCPS V2.0 lists VAX/VMS V5.5-2 (with UCX V4.0, ...) as.@ > supported. So far, I haven't seen the SPD of DCPS V2.1 though.  G DCPS V2.1 still supports OpenVMS VAX (or for purists, VAX/VMS) V5.5-2. pE The V2.1 SPD should be making it 'round to the Web page soon, I wouldhB think, as the product has been submitted to the Distribution Gods.   Paul   -- t  Paul Anderson   OpenVMS Engineerings   Hewlett-Packard Companyi   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 11:51:18 -0400 6 From: "John.Malmberg" <Malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq>L Subject: Re: OpenVMS V7.3-1, Smart Array 5300 (was: Re: Vms v7.3-1 and scsi)4 Message-ID: <3D4FF076.3080904@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq>   Hoff Hoffman wrote: 8 > In article <Jvt39.23070$t4.16710@nntpserver.swip.net>,3 >  "Anders Petri" <anders.petri@swipnet.se> writes:iO > :Please, anyone knows where to find info about support of Smart Array 5302/04c7 > :SCSI controllers and supported serverconfigurations?  > :iE > :Existing controllers (firmware versions) or new controlles needed?  > E >   I am not immediately familiar with the details of storage supportlE >   and storage plans around the Smart Array 5300 series PCI widgets.-  I The specific information about OpenVMS V7.3-1 support of the Smart Array M! series has not yet been released.j  H If you need specific details in advance of this release, please contact  your local HP sales support.  C It is anticipated but not guaranteed that this information will be a= generaly available soon after the shipment of OpenVMS V7.3-1.r  ? General information about the Smart Array 5300 can be found at: H http://www.compaq.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/arraycontrollers/  H I would expect for OpenVMS only disks will be supported on the adapter, 5 and that the SAN access module will not be supported.d   -Johni malmberg@dskwld.zko.dec.compaq Personal Opinion Onlyp   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 22:49:43 +01005 From: "Robert A.M. van Lopik" <lopik@mail.telepac.pt>a1 Subject: Oracle Containers for JAVA (OC4J) on VMS-" Message-ID: <3d504537@news.wau.nl>  G Oracle Containers for Java (OC4J) is an important component of Oracle'sr Application Server.eG Actually it is a Java application server in it's own right. It is fullyiJ written in Java and licensed by Oracle from the Swedish firm IronFlare AB,F where the product is called Orion Server (http://www.orionserver.com).F Recently I got this part to work on VMS (with JDK 131) using the usualJ tricks of converting files to StreamLF on an ODS-5 disk.  I just wanted toK let you know about this. When you are intested you might want to join in an1J effort to persuade Oracle to port their Internet Application Server iAS toK VMS, or forget about Oracle and go straight to the authors in Sweden to get>. them to recognize VMS as a supported platform.    Rob van Lopik  2 DouroVision Consultoria Informtica, Lda, PortugalH (no interest in either Oracle or IronFlare, just wanting to get the best software available for VMS)p   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:30:23 -0400# From: "Island" <sales@islandco.com>l$ Subject: Re: reseller info requested/ Message-ID: <ukvtir8m7t936c@news.supernews.com>i   We're pretty competitive alsoc* And we have a number of glowing references   Regards      -- David B Turner	 Sales Dpt  Island Computers US Corporationr 2700 Gregory Streeth	 Suite 180o Savannah GA 31404n Tel: 912 447 6622f Fax: 912 201 0096n sales@islandco.com www.islandco.com' http://www.islandco.com/legal-email.htmm   We sell Alpha's !i* All emails are checked for Virus and Worms9 "Tom Simpson" <simpsont@attbi.com.fubar> wrote in messageg8 news:8%129.240821$uw.138061@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net...G > Thanks.  I appreciate the input.  My experience so far has been good.c > H > I just wanted a sanity check before I pull the trigger for $350K worth > of upgrades... >s
 > Regards, > Tomb >.; > "Tom Simpson" <simpsont@attbi.com.fubar> wrote in message=5 > news:VUE19.449$Ru5.266@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net... I > > Has anyone had any recent experiences with purchases from CPU Options A > > (a reseller/broker out of MN.) that they would care to share?d > >  > > Thanks,i > > Tomi > >  > >- >- >-   ------------------------------   Date: 6 Aug 2002 13:42:44 -0700 / From: chris@applied-synergy.com (Chris Scheers) E Subject: Re: Robust exception handler context in C (well, C++ really) = Message-ID: <754a27c1.0208061242.5b4293f2@posting.google.com>r  h Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message news:<6l0$xIVa1ofd@eisner.encompasserve.org>...V > In article <87d6t29hj7.fsf@Alethion.systasis.net>, sasadmin <jec@nospam.net> writes:3 > > Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:o > > @ > >> I am trying to enhance an existing program written in the CB > >> programming language.  Since C lacks uplevel addressing, I amE > >> trying to figure out how to pass context to an exception handlerh& > >> using only stack local variables. > >> -, > >> 	In Bliss I would use an Enable Actual. > >> d? > >> 	In Ada I would just declare a local variable in the scope , > >> 	where I declare the exception handler. > >> s$ > >> How does one do this in DEC C ?A You may want to look at the setjmp/longjmp facility.  (Defined ins	 setjmp.h)i  = This provides one way to unwind the stack and return a value.-  E In practice, you would "setjmp" in your calling code.  Your exceptionnC handler can then collect whatever information it needs and return a2' tag to the calling code with "longjmp".n  F The tag is defined as an int, so if you have multiple contexts, it mayC be easiest to return an index into an array of structures.  You canaD usually get away with passing a pointer to a structure, but you haveC to make sure that your casting is correct.  And, if necessary, thatsE you correctly allocate/deallocate the structure.  Obviously, it can'tn be on the stack!     > > ; > > I don't know if DEC/Compaq C has implemented try/catch.  > 3 > "Try/Catch" sounds like one is talking about C++.s > B > As luck would have it, this program really is compiled with C++. > E > But looking at Chapter 15 (Exception Handling) of The Annotated C++aB > Reference Manual by Ellis and Stroustrup I see try-block only asH > related to a throw-expression.  I do not have the luxury of specifyingG > how the exception is generated -- it comes from a general purpose VMSe; > RTL routine (LIB$FIND_IMAGE_SYMBOL, if you must know :-).t > B > Can anyone say how the DEC C++ compiler use of Try/Catch relatesF > to general VMS exception handling ?   I have given up trying to findG > anything useful in the DEC C++ documentation -- it seems to lack evenrG > a Language Reference Manual and does not even cover those features ofn& > DEC C++ that are identical to DEC C.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 14:26:59 -0700# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>1E Subject: RE: Robust exception handler context in C (well, C++ really)d9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIOEDAFIAA.tom@kednos.com>    >-----Original Message-----i7 >From: Chris Scheers [mailto:chris@applied-synergy.com]y' >Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 1:43 PM  >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComF >Subject: Re: Robust exception handler context in C (well, C++ really) >- >i9 >Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message00 >news:<6l0$xIVa1ofd@eisner.encompasserve.org>...> >> In article <87d6t29hj7.fsf@Alethion.systasis.net>, sasadmin ><jec@nospam.net> writes:l4 >> > Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: >> >A >> >> I am trying to enhance an existing program written in the CsC >> >> programming language.  Since C lacks uplevel addressing, I amcF >> >> trying to figure out how to pass context to an exception handler' >> >> using only stack local variables.a >> >>o- >> >> 	In Bliss I would use an Enable Actual.  >> >>H@ >> >> 	In Ada I would just declare a local variable in the scope- >> >> 	where I declare the exception handler.o >> >> % >> >> How does one do this in DEC C ?wB >You may want to look at the setjmp/longjmp facility.  (Defined in
 >setjmp.h) >d> >This provides one way to unwind the stack and return a value. > F >In practice, you would "setjmp" in your calling code.  Your exceptionD >handler can then collect whatever information it needs and return a( >tag to the calling code with "longjmp". >jG >The tag is defined as an int, so if you have multiple contexts, it may-D >be easiest to return an index into an array of structures.  You canE >usually get away with passing a pointer to a structure, but you haverD >to make sure that your casting is correct.  And, if necessary, thatF >you correctly allocate/deallocate the structure.  Obviously, it can't >be on the stack!d  I One further caveat that may or may not apply (Quoting from Unix man page)i  H   Because it bypasses the usual function call and return mechanisms, theK   longjmp() function executes correctly in contexts of interrupts, signals,eL   and any of their associated functions.  However, if the longjmp() functionK   is invoked from a nested signal handler (that is, from a function invokedcL   as a result of a signal raised during the handling of another signal), the   behavior is undefined.   >  >9 >> >< >> > I don't know if DEC/Compaq C has implemented try/catch. >>4 >> "Try/Catch" sounds like one is talking about C++. >>C >> As luck would have it, this program really is compiled with C++.a >>F >> But looking at Chapter 15 (Exception Handling) of The Annotated C++C >> Reference Manual by Ellis and Stroustrup I see try-block only as6I >> related to a throw-expression.  I do not have the luxury of specifying H >> how the exception is generated -- it comes from a general purpose VMS< >> RTL routine (LIB$FIND_IMAGE_SYMBOL, if you must know :-). >>C >> Can anyone say how the DEC C++ compiler use of Try/Catch relatesoG >> to general VMS exception handling ?   I have given up trying to find2H >> anything useful in the DEC C++ documentation -- it seems to lack evenH >> a Language Reference Manual and does not even cover those features of' >> DEC C++ that are identical to DEC C.o >i >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).a@ >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 >2 ----& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002G   ------------------------------  $ Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 20:42:44 -0700% From: "Maddog" <Kelly@kphillipps.com>c Subject: tlz and compactione4 Message-ID: <3d5097af_1@corp-goliath.newsgroups.com>  L Anyone with experiance with a tlz10 (or similar) that has been running it in? compaction mode would be appreciated.   Has it been reliable...    Thanks,n   Kellyt        K -----------== Posted via Newsfeed.Com - Uncensored Usenet News ==---------- G    http://www.newsfeed.com       The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World!TM -----= Over 100,000 Newsgroups - Unlimited Fast Downloads - 19 Servers =-----t   ------------------------------  $ Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:13:04 +1200& From: A Bonaveidogo <Asena@fsc.com.fj> Subject: uafG Message-ID: <BFBEDDF2CFEDD411917400508BF3A6FFCBD6B9@exchsvr.FSC.COM.FJ>%   D.  
 here u go;  ' Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on NodeAiL Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on NodeA, system id: 10 278 Auditable event:          System UAF record modification1 Event time:                7-AUG-2002 09:07:32.16i" PID:                      21403946 Process name:             ASENAl Username:                 ASENA ) Process owner:            [SYSTEMS,ASENA]f! Terminal name:            TNA681: H Image name:               $1$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]AUTHORIZE.EXE Object class name:        FILE6 Object name:              $1$DKB1:[SYSEXE]SYSUAF.DAT;1 User record:              USER1w  ' Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on NodeBrL Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on NodeB, system id: 10 288 Auditable event:          System UAF record modification1 Event time:                7-AUG-2002 09:08:28.86?" PID:                      20E535E8 Process name:             ASENAh Username:                 ASENA ) Process owner:            [SYSTEMS,ASENA]i! Terminal name:            TNA8200hH Image name:               $1$DKC0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]AUTHORIZE.EXE Object class name:        FILE6 Object name:              $1$DKB1:[SYSEXE]SYSUAF.DAT;1 User record:              USER1<  e& %UAF-I-MDFYMSG, user record(s) updated     AB   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 20:17:47 +0200p- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>f Subject: Re: uaf' Message-ID: <3D5012CA.BB793FFA@Free.fr>r    yes yes yes, we forgot this one.
 Good shot.   A?   D.   Andrew Robinson wrote: > N > Doesn't the logical for Rightslist need to be checked as well? I've had thatF > one before on a customers site. SYSUAF was perfect, but they had two7 > different Rightslist.dat files. Very strange results.y   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 15:45:43 -0700-5 From: "Kenneth H. Fairfield" <My.Full.Name@intel.com>: Subject: Re: uaf) Message-ID: <3D505196.8B1660FB@intel.com>    A Bonaveidogo wrote:   > D. >  > here u go; >e) > Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on NodeAaN > Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on NodeA, system id: > 10 > 27: > Auditable event:          System UAF record modification3 > Event time:                7-AUG-2002 09:07:32.16 $ > PID:                      21403946! > Process name:             ASENA-! > Username:                 ASENA-+ > Process owner:            [SYSTEMS,ASENA]S# > Terminal name:            TNA681:tJ > Image name:               $1$DKA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]AUTHORIZE.EXE  > Object class name:        FILE8 > Object name:              $1$DKB1:[SYSEXE]SYSUAF.DAT;1  8                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gotcha!   ! > User record:              USER1" > ) > Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on NodeBmN > Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on NodeB, system id: > 10 > 28: > Auditable event:          System UAF record modification3 > Event time:                7-AUG-2002 09:08:28.86 $ > PID:                      20E535E8! > Process name:             ASENAn! > Username:                 ASENA + > Process owner:            [SYSTEMS,ASENA]i# > Terminal name:            TNA8200dJ > Image name:               $1$DKC0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]AUTHORIZE.EXE  > Object class name:        FILE8 > Object name:              $1$DKB1:[SYSEXE]SYSUAF.DAT;1  8                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Gotcha #2!!    >e! > User record:              USER1/ >.( > %UAF-I-MDFYMSG, user record(s) updated  =     I really thought someone had asked (you) where SYSUAF.DAT-@ lives on your system, e.g., what does SHOW LOGICAL/SYSTEM SYSUAF> show.  If there's NO translation, then AUTHORIZE looks in your? default directory.  Is it possible (or likely) that when loggedg< in as ASENA, your default is set to <some-disk>:[SYSEXE] and that you run AUTHORIZE there?   :     In any case, the two nodes, NodeA and NodeB, are using< _distinct_ SYSUAF.DAT files, one in $1$DKA0:[SYSEXE] and the9 other in $1$DKB1:[SYSEXE].  This is no way to run a (VMS)9
 railroad! :-)1  <     You need a _single_ copy of SYSUAF.DAT that _both_ nodes) access.  Typically, clustered systems usel) SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]SYSUAF.DAT (as well as . SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]RIGHTSLIST.DAT), and _then_> DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC SYSUAF SYS$SYSTEM:SYSUAF.DAT.  Given you're@ now in possession of two versions of the file, you probably want1 to choose one of them as "correct" and copy it to2= SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE].  Then defin the logical name as above on 9 both nodes (and add the definition to your system startupi procedures).  =     Another complication (other readers, please correct me if ; I'm wrong here) is that there may _already_ be a version ofi6 SYSUAF.DAT in SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE] (or, lord forbid, in< SYS$SPECIFIC:[SYSEXE]), and that is the one LOGINOUT and the: AUDIT_SERVER process reference.  If this is so, retain the< one already in SYS$COMMON and just define the system logical9 name, as above.  If you made changes or additions to your ; "private" copy(ies) in $1$DKA0: and $1$DKB1:, you just needa* to reapply them to the system-common file.       -Ken --6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
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