1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 08 Aug 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 434       Contents:) 3rd Party SCSI CD-ROM's CD-RW's DVD-Rom's - Re: 3rd Party SCSI CD-ROM's CD-RW's DVD-Rom's - Re: 3rd Party SCSI CD-ROM's CD-RW's DVD-Rom's - Re: 3rd Party SCSI CD-ROM's CD-RW's DVD-Rom's - Re: 3rd Party SCSI CD-ROM's CD-RW's DVD-Rom's  Re: Advanced Server issues... < Re: Alpha lives again ... can't keep a great processor down!" AlphaServer DS25 and CD-RW drive ? Re: Compression on DLT backup  Re: Compression on DLT backup  Re: Connection Help !  Re: Counting records in a file Re: Counting records in a file Re: dectalk fuse type? Re: dectalk fuse type? Re: dectalk fuse type? Re: dectalk fuse type?& Re: device full: wrong error messages?K Re: Differences in reporting memory usage between Monitor Cluster and  AMDS J Re: Differences in reporting memory usage between Monitor Cluster and AMDSP Re: Differences in reporting memory usage between Monitor Cluster and AMDS AMDSA& Re: extended  parse and ^ in file name& Re: extended  parse and ^ in file name2 Re: Firware problem with an Alphastation 200 4/2332 Re: Firware problem with an Alphastation 200 4/233$ Re: Help - TPU Global_search_replace$ Re: Help - TPU Global_search_replace$ Re: Help - TPU Global_search_replace- Re: How to add mod_proxy module to CSWS 1.1-1 - Re: How to add mod_proxy module to CSWS 1.1-1  HP-Compaq Merger Went Smoothly looking for a DELQA  Re: mouse installed . Re: OT Mac OS X woes, but advice needed please. Re: OT Mac OS X woes, but advice needed pleaseJ OT: HP Withdraws DCMA Threat - Article from The Register concerni	ng Tru64P Re: Powerstorm 300 and Alpha PC 164 with OVMS 7.3 (long) - ELSA GLoria and PC164( Recover files from multiple backup tapes, Re: Recover files from multiple backup tapes, Re: Recover files from multiple backup tapes, RE: Recover files from multiple backup tapes) Re: Robust exception handler context in C 2 Re: Samsung says alpha lives ... Gartner loses ...2 Re: Samsung says alpha lives ... Gartner loses ...* Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !* Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !* Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !# Re: Some Alpha news on The Inquirer  Re: uaf  Re: uaf  Re: uaf  Re: uaf  VMSMAIL_PROFILE clean up Re: VMSMAIL_PROFILE clean up RE: VMSMAIL_PROFILE clean up Re: VMSMAIL_PROFILE clean up Re: VMSMAIL_PROFILE clean up Re: VMSMAIL_PROFILE clean up Re: XML-RPC for OpenVMS?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------   Date: 8 Aug 2002 07:10:44 -0700 ( From: robert_kersey@bat.com (Rob Kersey)2 Subject: 3rd Party SCSI CD-ROM's CD-RW's DVD-Rom's= Message-ID: <f936a854.0208080610.1adb39d6@posting.google.com>   D Can anyone provide me with information (Makes and Models) of any 3rdB party (Non DEC) SCSI CD-ROM, CD-RW, DVD-ROM devices that Vax's can Mount and read disks from!  E We have a HP-9200+ CD writer that is picked up on SHO DEV, but we are  unable to Mount the device.    Thanks   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 12:26:24 -0400 , From: David Michaels <michaedi@email.uc.edu>6 Subject: Re: 3rd Party SCSI CD-ROM's CD-RW's DVD-Rom's, Message-ID: <3D529BB0.A9DFAD51@email.uc.edu>   Rob Kersey wrote:  > F > Can anyone provide me with information (Makes and Models) of any 3rdD > party (Non DEC) SCSI CD-ROM, CD-RW, DVD-ROM devices that Vax's can > Mount and read disks from! > G > We have a HP-9200+ CD writer that is picked up on SHO DEV, but we are  > unable to Mount the device.  >  > Thanks      . These are the one's I bought that worked .....    = http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2044617009     = http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2043713744     G These are both internal and not cdrw drives.. I like the Toshiba better  because it was cheaper...   * I've used them both on VaxStation 4000's.     H I also have a hp cd-rw and I have the same problems you do. I can createF disks with it on a VAX/VMS... I just have to read them with a diffrent drive...   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Aug 2002 18:30:28 +0100 C From: vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de (Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann) 6 Subject: Re: 3rd Party SCSI CD-ROM's CD-RW's DVD-Rom's- Message-ID: <3d529ca4.0@news.uni-konstanz.de>   = In article <f936a854.0208080610.1adb39d6@posting.google.com>, * robert_kersey@bat.com (Rob Kersey) writes:F |>Can anyone provide me with information (Makes and Models) of any 3rdD |>party (Non DEC) SCSI CD-ROM, CD-RW, DVD-ROM devices that Vax's can |>Mount and read disks from! |>G |>We have a HP-9200+ CD writer that is picked up on SHO DEV, but we are  |>unable to Mount the device.  |> |>Thanks |>  F There are only a few CD-R(W)-drive with SCSI. You must look for drives thatK can be jumpered to 512 block per I/O (Yamaha offers such beasts). Sometimes  they call it "unix"-jumper.  J Usually the DVD-drives are produced for the PC market and you have to use F a small driver program from Glenn Everhart (zrdriver+zridehost). Then  you can read DVDs  or CD-ROMs.   eberhard   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 19:13:16 +0200 & From: Michael Joosten <joost@c-lab.de>6 Subject: Re: 3rd Party SCSI CD-ROM's CD-RW's DVD-Rom's$ Message-ID: <3D52A6AC.2C67@c-lab.de>   Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann wrote: >   K > Usually the DVD-drives are produced for the PC market and you have to use G > a small driver program from Glenn Everhart (zrdriver+zridehost). Then   > you can read DVDs  or CD-ROMs.  ? I once came across a Pioneer DVD-305S DVD-ROM, which also had a 6 512byte-jumper. But I didn't try to boot a VAX, sorry.   --  * Michael Joosten, SBS C-LAB, joost@c-lab.de* Fuerstenallee 11, 33094 Paderborn, Germany, Phone: +49 5251 606127, Fax: +49 5251 6060658 C-LAB is a cooperation of University Paderborn & SIEMENS   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 19:29:40 +0200 B From: Michiel Erens <I.dont.want.spam@this.mailaddress.is.invalid>6 Subject: Re: 3rd Party SCSI CD-ROM's CD-RW's DVD-Rom's7 Message-ID: <3D52AA84.3582@this.mailaddress.is.invalid>    Rob Kersey wrote:  > F > Can anyone provide me with information (Makes and Models) of any 3rdD > party (Non DEC) SCSI CD-ROM, CD-RW, DVD-ROM devices that Vax's can > Mount and read disks from!  " A not up-to-date list of CD-ROMs :-  http://sites.inka.de/pcde/dec-cdrom-list.txt    --   ME Posted by news://news.nb.nu    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 12:52:57 -0400 3 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com_x> & Subject: Re: Advanced Server issues.../ Message-ID: <3D52A1E9.406@firstdbasource.com_x>    Michael Austin wrote: C > I have read the docs until I am cross-eyed and cannot see why my  F > Advanced Server 7.3 cannot find the PDC (primary domain controller) I > which is a WNT 4.0 server.  I had to disable the browser services on 3  A > new NT5.0 servers so that I could at least browser the network   > neighborhood.  >  > MMM\\FLACS> show admin > Administration information:  >  > ' > The domain being administered is: MMM 4 > The domain controller for the domain is: (unknown)* > The domain controller type is: (unknown) > ) > The server being administered is: FLACS 1 > The server type is: Advanced Server for OpenVMS  > ! > The user name is: Administrator ; > The user is not logged on and has not been authenticated. 7 > The user's workstation is FLACS and is in domain MMM.  >  > MMM\\FLACS> show version > " > Advanced Server V7.3 for OpenVMS > - > MMM\\FLACS> set computer flacs/account_sync G > %PWRK-E-ERRACCCOM, account synchronization of computer "FLACS" failed C > -PWRK-E-DCNOTFND, cannot find Primary Domain Controller for "MMM"  > I > The only article I can find on this relates to possible netmask issues  1 > and I have verified the netmask to be the same.  > , > Any ideas on where I should begin to look? >  > Michael Austin    G I take it from the overwhelming response here that not too many people   have this sort of problem.  A Is there a LANMAN "ping" operation that can tell me if LANMAN is  H actually working or not?  I cannot even configure this thing because it ? is set up as a BDC and it cannot find the PDC to update itself.    Thanks   Michael Austin.    ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:47:43 -0400% From: "John Vottero" <John@mvpsi.com> E Subject: Re: Alpha lives again ... can't keep a great processor down! / Message-ID: <ul514fpa1b2nf1@news.supernews.com>   D Samsung is also developing and selling OpenMail, another HP castoff.  5 "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in message 7 news:d7791aa1.0208071526.125ea00f@posting.google.com... A > you just can't keep a great processor down!  Maybe if ev69 goes  > well, they will do ev8-9 ... >  > " > Samsung revisits Alpha processor >  > Pursues separate plans > 0 > By Mike Magee: Wednesday 07 August 2002, 17:10 > H > REMEMBER SAMSUNG has the rights to continue making Alpha processors in< > perpetuity, irrespective of whether Intel's got it or not.D > Right. Well sources tell us that in late September we'll see AlphaE > EV69 processors arriving with 1.75MB of level two cache on the die. @ > Right up until now, the level two cache for the 21264 was on a > daughtercard.  > H > Production processors are expected to arrive while the chips have been5 > sampling for a little old while now, we understand.  > H > By November we're likely to see dual CPU systems running at 1GHz using9 > the one die cache, and supporting DDR memory and PCI-X.  > : > And early next year we'll see 1.2GHz Samsung Alpha CPUs. > ? > Samsung used to sell its CPUs through the now defunct API but E > shilly-shallying caused a heap of angst amongst system integrators.  > F > During most of this year Samsung has kept its head under the parapetF > but now it looks like it's going to have another stab at the market,F > seeing as HP/Compaq seems to have thrown its lot in with the Itanic.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:27:02 +0200$ From: Michael Unger <unger@decus.de>+ Subject: AlphaServer DS25 and CD-RW drive ? + Message-ID: <00A12289.45EEEEE4.21@decus.de>   N Just yesterday I found on the Compaq AlphaServer site the new DS25 systems and# the related technical documentation N (www.compaq.com/alphaserver/ds25/ds25_tech.html). Both the "Technical Summary"M (page1, text; page 8, block diagram; page 13, side view) and the "QuickSpecs" K (page 1, side view and text) mention a "read/write" CD-ROM drive (partially K confusing; "CD-R", "CD-RW", "CD-ROM" and "CD R/W" are used to describe that L drive); these documents list OpenVMS 7.3-1 as the minimum supported version.  P Does this mean that a CD-R(W) drive is now "officially supported" (as a writable0 device) or "it's there but you can't use it" ???  5 (A DS25 would be a nice hobbyist system of course :-)    Michael    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:05:41 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> & Subject: Re: Compression on DLT backup8 Message-ID: <ed94lukmvcospodup0kkkc4t5mcv0viu1r@4ax.com>  / On Wed, 07 Aug 2002 23:02:37 GMT, "Tom Simpson" ! <simpsont@attbi.com.fubar> wrote:   J >Expect your Backup times to (at least) double with compression enabled...  C Only if your drive is broken or you are not feeding it fast enough. 0 Make sure your backup account is properly tuned.  	 >Regards,  >Tom > 7 >"Virginia Rogers" <vrogers@umich.edu> wrote in message $ >news:3D4FDA04.103A5FF9@umich.edu... >> John Santos wrote:  >> >C >> > A bunch of the various mount/driver/scsi/backup ECO's affected D >> > compaction.  I think either the driver forgot the setting underF >> > various circumstances (you would mount the tape with /compaction,C >> > but some later event would clear the "compaction enabled" bit, D >> > so the driver would then start writing in uncompacted mode, andB >> > you would see the "compacted" state change spontaneously), orB >> > it would neglect to actually set the hardware to the mode youB >> > had requested (it would show as "compaction enabled", but theB >> > tape would be writen un-compacted.)  Which ECO's do you have? >> >& >> John, I'm not sure what ECO's are.! >>A >> > Also, the TK89 is a distant descendant of the TK50, which is @ >> > a streaming drive.  To avoid stop/start cycles, if the dataB >> > is arriving a little slower than the drive requires, it wouldD >> > write null blocks on the tape (which are skipped on read-back).? >> > I don't know if the TK89 still does the same thing, but if @ >> > the 1000A can't pump data to it fast enough, there could be@ >> > a lot of wasted space on the tapes.  Is the tape drive on aA >> > SCSI bus by itself, or is something else contending with it? E >> > Is there a lot of other disk access going on during the backups, A >> > or does it basically have the system to itself?  This effect D >> > can be minimized by giving BACKUP as much memory, I/O channels,@ >> > and process quotas as possible.  There is info about tuning$ >> > the backup account in the docs. >> > >>J >> I have been mostly trying the backup during the day.  There are lots of >otherM >> drives on the scsi, although probably not very much disk activity.  I will  >try1 >> it at night and bumping up some of the quotas.  >>3 >> Thanks for all of the suggestions from everyone.  >>D >> It took me awhile to figure out that depending on when I used the >/MEDIA=COMPACT L >> qualifier, a later command might disable it.  However, even when I use it >on the M >> INIT and BACKUP commands, and make sure the compression light is on on the  >frontI >> panel, it still doesn't make any difference.  Same thing when manually 
 >selecting' >> density override on the front panel.  >    -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:33:21 +0100  From: Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net> & Subject: Re: Compression on DLT backup( Message-ID: <3D522CD1.328FF47@Omond.net>   Tom Simpson wrote:  K > Expect your Backup times to (at least) double with compression enabled...    Eh ?  Why ?   1 Nonsense, I wouldn't expect anything of the sort.   	 Roy Omond  Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:43:10 -0400; From: "Brian Tillman" <tillman_brian@notnoone.notnohow.com>  Subject: Re: Connection Help !$ Message-ID: <3d5291af$1@news.si.com>  L >If you want to use the network connection, you'll need DECnet or TCP/IP for >both the VAX and the PC.   E And Kermit will work great over TCP/IP.  In fact, Kermit95 contains a 9 TCP/IP, so no separate stack for the PC is needed at all.  --A Brian Tillman                   Internet: tillman_brian at si.com A Smiths Aerospace                          tillman at swdev.si.com = 3290 Patterson Ave. SE, MS      Addresses modified to prevent < Grand Rapids, MI 49512-1991     SPAM.  Replace "at" with "@"8        This opinion doesn't represent that of my company   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Aug 2002 06:53:53 -0600  From: briggs@encompasserve.org' Subject: Re: Counting records in a file 3 Message-ID: <3NpX+hvl9DKI@eisner.encompasserve.org>   l In article <b10654c6.0208071025.497360eb@posting.google.com>, colive@technologEase.com (Chris Olive) writes:\ > p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) wrote in message news:<gJGXZakuMIMk@elias.decus.ch>...h >> In article <3D50ADF6.9010505@firstdbasource.com>, Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> writes: >> > [snippity-snip-snip]  >>  M >> I seem to recall from previous discussions on this subject that instead of  >>   >> $ search 'p1' somegarbage >>   >> $search 'p1' "" >>   >> is far more efficient.  >>   > E > Yup.  "COPY/LOG filename.ext NL:" works pretty well too.  Even more  > simple than SEARCH/STAT...  C Some tests I posted yesterday indicate a gain of 6 to 1 by changing + the search string from "somegarbage" to "".   A A test I did a moment ago indicated a loss of 9 to 1 going from a / search for "" to a COPY/LOG to the null device.    $ show proc /acc  G  8-AUG-2002 07:45:41.81   User: VAXS09           Process ID:   000101E7 G                           Node: ALPHA            Process name: "VAXS09"    Accounting information: A  Buffered I/O count:       260  Peak working set size:       2784 A  Direct I/O count:        3271  Peak virtual size:         169648 A  Page faults:              471  Mounted volumes:                0u  Images activated:           9)  Elapsed CPU time:          0 00:00:00.41O)                                       ^^^C)  Connect time:              0 00:00:59.33C $ copy 20meg.dat nl: /log      eI %COPY-S-COPIED, DISK1420:[VAXS09]20MEG.DAT;1 copied to NL: (2960 records)D $ show proc /acc  G  8-AUG-2002 07:45:47.39   User: VAXS09           Process ID:   000101E7tG                           Node: ALPHA            Process name: "VAXS09"D   Accounting information: A  Buffered I/O count:       306  Peak working set size:       2800iA  Direct I/O count:        6279  Peak virtual size:         169648tA  Page faults:              590  Mounted volumes:                0   Images activated:          11)  Elapsed CPU time:          0 00:00:00.61g)                                       ^^^i)  Connect time:              0 00:01:04.91   D Subtract around .02 CPU seconds for the overhead of $ SHOW PROC /ACCC Baseline SEARCH /STAT performance using a null search string was at  .02 CPU seconds.   	John Briggs   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 13:00:19 GMTr, From: "Bob Knowles" <bob.knowles@compaq.com>' Subject: Re: Counting records in a filep2 Message-ID: <DXt49.14$KE1.312385@news.cpqcorp.net>  H Or even TYPE <logfile>/TAIL=<guess> . Could  involve some pretty tedious% iterations if you guess wrong though.C   b    -- bob.know1es@hp.com% (non-spammers should make the 1 an L) 9 "Chris Olive" <colive@technologEase.com> wrote in messageO7 news:b10654c6.0208071025.497360eb@posting.google.com... 6 > p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) wrote in message% news:<gJGXZakuMIMk@elias.decus.ch>...OD > > In article <3D50ADF6.9010505@firstdbasource.com>, Michael Austin$ <maustin@firstdbasource.com> writes: > > > [snippity-snip-snip] > >iK > > I seem to recall from previous discussions on this subject that instead  of > >t > > $ search 'p1' somegarbage  > >  > > $search 'p1' ""v > >. > > is far more efficient. > >a >aE > Yup.  "COPY/LOG filename.ext NL:" works pretty well too.  Even moreO > simple than SEARCH/STAT... >T > ChrisO > ----- 
 > Chris Olivem! > colive(at)technologEase(dot)comp >n > > __ > > Paul Sture > > Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:20:44 +0100 ( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> Subject: Re: dectalk fuse type?F) Message-ID: <3D5245FC.EBA41CCB@127.0.0.1>    Ben Bridgwater wrote:  >  > Michael Zarlenga wrote:-  C > > Well, since it probably draws the same power, and since US line0F > > voltage is 117, if you know the UK line voltage, you can calculate > > the fuse rating (in amps) :g > > 7 > >                                     UK line voltage 5 > > new fuse (amps) = old fuse (amps) * -------------f/ > >                                         117- > I > Actually, I just got a reply from Compaq/HP tech support, who amazingly G > still DO support it, and told me the 110V fuse is 3.0A while the 220Vi- > one is 2.5A - maybe because it's AC vs DC ?-   Huh?  , UK is 50Hz AC, US is 60Hz AC as well, no DC.  G UK supports fast and slow blow fuses, (and medium blow in the plugs). AWG fuse is not actually voltage dependent so although the maths works out,wH voltage switching may change the characteristics of a wound transformer.( *Go with what tech support says though*.   -- V? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences  nclews at csc dot comr   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 07:56:16 -0400e0 From: Ben Bridgwater <bbridgwater@myrealbox.com> Subject: Re: dectalk fuse type?c, Message-ID: <3D525C60.3060407@myrealbox.com>   Nic Clews wrote: > Ben Bridgwater wrote:I >  >>Michael Zarlenga wrote:  >  > B >>>Well, since it probably draws the same power, and since US lineE >>>voltage is 117, if you know the UK line voltage, you can calculates >>>the fuse rating (in amps) : >>>h6 >>>                                    UK line voltage4 >>>new fuse (amps) = old fuse (amps) * -------------. >>>                                        117 >>I >>Actually, I just got a reply from Compaq/HP tech support, who amazingly G >>still DO support it, and told me the 110V fuse is 3.0A while the 220VD- >>one is 2.5A - maybe because it's AC vs DC ?t >  >  > Huh? > . > UK is 50Hz AC, US is 60Hz AC as well, no DC.  I What I meant was that the formula for power for AC voltages is different iD from that for DC ... something to do with the square root if memory $ serves (which it probably doesn't!).   Ben    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 13:15:49 +0100c( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> Subject: Re: dectalk fuse type?s) Message-ID: <3D5260F5.26601051@127.0.0.1>w   Ben Bridgwater wrote:o >    > > Huh? > >e0 > > UK is 50Hz AC, US is 60Hz AC as well, no DC. > J > What I meant was that the formula for power for AC voltages is differentE > from that for DC ... something to do with the square root if memorym& > serves (which it probably doesn't!).  D Sorry, yes you are right, the AC is RMS value. Hey, I'm in computing1 because I never could do maths, that's my excuse.0  C (I think this may be drifting OT, but I guess there are a few usingSD equipment in differing voltage areas so I'd rather it mentioned than) someone get a nasty shock, pun intended.)a   --  ? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences  nclews at csc dot comf   ------------------------------  " Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 14:31:50 GMT) From: "Douglas A. Gwyn" <DAGwyn@null.net>D Subject: Re: dectalk fuse type? ' Message-ID: <3D5280D6.95772E9@null.net>a   Ben Bridgwater wrote:hJ > What I meant was that the formula for power for AC voltages is differentE > from that for DC ... something to do with the square root if memorya& > serves (which it probably doesn't!).  ? Even if that were so, which it really isn't so long as the load C is non-inductive and AC voltage is measured as RMS rather than P-P,a2 since both "mains" are AC it wouldn't be a factor.  B Make sure you change the transformer primary wiring via the switchA provided for the purpose, as well as change the fuse.  Many powera= supplies don't need tweaking for the 50/60 Hz difference, butW8 nearly all need "rewiring" for the 230/117 V difference.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 12:02:36 -0500c& From: jlsue <jlsuexxxz@screaminet.com>/ Subject: Re: device full: wrong error messages?-8 Message-ID: <3r85lugbrtmkhk9hjhk0br1sg6t5kjl7fb@4ax.com>  A On 7 AUG 2002 20:58:44 GMT, karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carli Karcher) wrote:-  ? >In a previous article, jlsue <jlsuexxxz@screaminet.com> wrote:  >  >-> ... F >->Just FYI, DFU has a command that will take much less time to do theE >->rebuild.  That means that your users are "locked out" (hung) for aT" >->much, much shorter time period. >sE >Aren't you thinking ov ANALYZE/DISK .vs. DFU's VERIFY here? I wasn'trB >aware that SET VOLUME/REBUILD affected user access to the volume.  E Well, I must admit it's been awhile since I've had to use this (sinceM. I don't do day-to-day administration anymore).  ? On volumes that have lots of stale info, the rebuild could takevD awhile.  Now, I'm pretty sure the system hangs I/O while it does theF rebuild (which is the reason we used MOUNT/NOREBUILD in our startups).D If you've never had rebuilds take very long, the hangs may have gone
 unnoticed.  E But I am willing to accept that my memory is incorrect on this, sincee; I have no way to test it out to prove one way or the other.u  ) Not speaking for anyone, certainly not HPo- (get rid of the xxxz in my address to e-mail)-   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Aug 2002 05:34:18 -0700 ; From: jnchambl@texaschildrenshospital.org (Jesse Chambless)sT Subject: Re: Differences in reporting memory usage between Monitor Cluster and  AMDS< Message-ID: <d92c63cc.0208080434.e5a7979@posting.google.com>   Thanks Mark,   Had not thought of that.    k "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com> wrote in message news:<3D5137B6.55700BE8@clarityconnect.com>... D > Yes these utilities differ on how to count the Modified List sinceI > strong arguments can be made for either counting it as used or as free.h >  > Jesse Chambless wrote: > > 
 > > Folks, > > I > > We have a 2 node cluster of ES40s with 4GB of memory per node runningp
 > > VMS7.2-2.c > > H > > We have just upgraded the nodes to 4GB from 2GB of memory.  Now whenH > > we perform a MONTIOR CLUSTER, the display shows memory usage at 43%.A > > If we look at the AMDS display of memory usage, it shows 36%..I > > Calculating the actual memory in use from the SHOW MEMORY command, itm > > shows 36%. > > I > > Is there a difference in the method used to calculate memory usage in89 > > the MONITOR CLUSTER display and the one used in AMDS.u > > H > > I know that this is a small discrepancy, but just trying to get some) > > more in-depth info on these displays.u > >  > > Thanks,e > >  > > Jesse Chamblesse   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Aug 2002 05:33:02 -0700l; From: jnchambl@texaschildrenshospital.org (Jesse Chambless) S Subject: Re: Differences in reporting memory usage between Monitor Cluster and AMDS = Message-ID: <d92c63cc.0208080433.17e4a772@posting.google.com>c  d hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) wrote in message news:<airvt8$p19$6@web1.cup.hp.com>...| > In article <d92c63cc.0208070542.4d0018c@posting.google.com>, jnchambl@texaschildrenshospital.org (Jesse Chambless) writes: > H > :We have a 2 node cluster of ES40s with 4GB of memory per node running > :VMS7.2-2. > : G > :We have just upgraded the nodes to 4GB from 2GB of memory.  Now whenyH > :we perform a MONTIOR CLUSTER, the display shows memory usage at 43%. A > :If we look at the AMDS display of memory usage, it shows 36%.  H > :Calculating the actual memory in use from the SHOW MEMORY command, it
 > :shows 36%.a > :mH > :Is there a difference in the method used to calculate memory usage in8 > :the MONITOR CLUSTER display and the one used in AMDS. > E >   Um, yes.  Obviously.  Methods apparently differing by 7%, in thiss8 >   particular case.  Or was that a rhetorical question? >   O Yep. Not really a rhetorical question, but I probably stated that quite poorly.   G > :I know that this is a small discrepancy, but just trying to get some"( > :more in-depth info on these displays. > ( >   Please make a formal report of this. >  OK will do.   sP >  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------P >       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    P >  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------N >    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:43:53 +0100f( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>Y Subject: Re: Differences in reporting memory usage between Monitor Cluster and AMDS AMDSAn) Message-ID: <3D522F49.7A45F6AE@127.0.0.1>k   "Mark D. Jilson" wrote:o > D > Yes these utilities differ on how to count the Modified List sinceI > strong arguments can be made for either counting it as used or as free.   E Never thought of it like that. Adds a new twist to "is the beer glass E half full or half empty" when you have the option of a whisky chaser,c7 itself either full or empty - but that is your choice. n   Nic.   > Jesse Chambless wrote: > >eH > > We have just upgraded the nodes to 4GB from 2GB of memory.  Now whenH > > we perform a MONTIOR CLUSTER, the display shows memory usage at 43%.A > > If we look at the AMDS display of memory usage, it shows 36%. I > > Calculating the actual memory in use from the SHOW MEMORY command, it> > > shows 36%. > > I > > Is there a difference in the method used to calculate memory usage int9 > > the MONITOR CLUSTER display and the one used in AMDS.e   -- c? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciencest nclews at csc dot comt   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Aug 2002 01:42:06 -0700l+ From: pierre.bru@spotimage.fr (Bru, Pierre)m/ Subject: Re: extended  parse and ^ in file name,= Message-ID: <1c0e37b1.0208080042.428b53f1@posting.google.com>s  [ Don Sykes <annonymous@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:<3D51A849.BC1323A0@pacbell.net>...  > "Bru, Pierre" wrote: > >  > > hi,w > > I > > is there a way to tell VMS to display extended filename _without_ therD > > ^ in the file name, for ex: foo.bar.txt insead of foo^.bar.txt ? > > ! > > what about the RMS function ?t > >  > > TIA, > > Pierre.  > M > Assume you're talking about a dir on an ODS-5 disk, rather than a container> > directory you're exporting?m  5 yes, I mean on an ODS-5 disk. with OpenVMS 7.2 or 7.3o  
 > Did you # > 	set process/parse_style=extended>   yes. i  B I found $CVT_FILENAME that do the trick for the second part of theD question. but this system service only convert filename (as the name says) not file path :(  D for the first part (display of filename during for ex. DIR), I found nothing yet.0 if you 'DIR foo.bar.txt' you get 'foo^.bar.txt'.  B DCL "understant"  the syntax without the ^. is it possible to also display without it ?   TIA, Pierre.>   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 14:14:42 GMTf' From: Colin Blake <colin@theblakes.com>I/ Subject: Re: extended  parse and ^ in file namew, Message-ID: <3D527CD2.9070607@theblakes.com>   Bru, Pierre wrote:  C >DCL "understant"  the syntax without the ^. is it possible to alsoP >display without it ?e >eH I don't think you can have it displayed without the ^, because to do so G would be ambiguous. For example, if "a.b.c" was displayed, what is the d9 file type? ".c" or ".b.c"? The ^ resolves that ambiguity.-   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 02:03:21 -0400  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>; Subject: Re: Firware problem with an Alphastation 200 4/233>4 Message-ID: <1020808015400.415B-100000@Ives.egh.com>  & On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Mark Keegan wrote:    > I followed all the steps from:B > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/faq/vmsfaq_015.html#alpha21 > L > And I have the EXACT same problem... the same options, that no matter whatL > I type, brings me back to the same prompt, over, and over, and over again! > H > What's the problem???? I do know how to use the failsafe option, but I, > can't choose anything in the darn menu of: > : >  AlphaStation 200 4/233          Firmware Update UtilityL > Update         Update the ROM(s)               Advanced       More options$ > Exit           Exit update utility >  > K > How do I choose one of those? I tried using the + key, the - key, tab and  > shift-tab, no effect!!!t > / > I am at a total loss as to what to do next...s  ? I'm just shooting in the dark here, but one of your other postspB mentioned getting a "No Keyboard" error, and you also said you are> capturing this stuff on a PC (or something) hooked to a serial port....  A Maybe the AlphaBIOS (aka ARC, NT BIOS) doesn't work on the serialn@ port and expects a PC-like configuration (i.e. monitor, keyboard and mouse.)1  @ I realize this is coming from the failsafe loader, booted from a? floppy, but maybe it is still depending on some settings in the  NVROM to talk to the console.M  ? So I would try hooking up a keyboard, mouse and monitor, rebootrB the failsafe floppy, try loading the AlphaBIOS for the 4/233, then? when I got that loaded, try reloading the SRM for the 4/233 andc( only then switch back to serial console.  . Is the 4/233 half-flashed like my AS200 4/100?  < Good Luck!  It would be a shame for it to be a paper weight.   -- O John Santost Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 10:42:12 -0400% From: "John Vottero" <John@mvpsi.com>m; Subject: Re: Firware problem with an Alphastation 200 4/233 / Message-ID: <ul50q5afgi6h56@news.supernews.com>a  0 "Mark Keegan" <keegan@mx.qc.ca> wrote in message5 news:Pine.GSO.4.44.0208072351500.3418-100000@wilco...e  > I followed all the steps from:B > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/faq/vmsfaq_015.html#alpha21 >gL > And I have the EXACT same problem... the same options, that no matter whatL > I type, brings me back to the same prompt, over, and over, and over again! >aH > What's the problem???? I do know how to use the failsafe option, but I, > can't choose anything in the darn menu of: >0: >  AlphaStation 200 4/233          Firmware Update UtilityL > Update         Update the ROM(s)               Advanced       More options$ > Exit           Exit update utility >c >eK > How do I choose one of those? I tried using the + key, the - key, tab and  > shift-tab, no effect!!!: >0  < I think you want to use the U, P,D,A,T, E and <Return> keys.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 10:53:10 -050037 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.telocity.com>:- Subject: Re: Help - TPU Global_search_replacetG Message-ID: <craigberry-9A4B4F.10531008082002@news.directvinternet.com>a  3 In article <ffGNSju$w3rx@eisner.encompasserve.org>, -  young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) wrote:   9 > > $ perl -pe "s/(A|B|C|D|E|F)/X/g;" < foo.txt > foo.txtt  A > 	Agreed.  Simple and/or tricky text substitutions perl.  Simplee> > 	ones, sed.  Mind bending text replacements, FLEX of course!  + > $ sed -e "s/[A-F]/X/g;" <foo.txt >foo.txt-  G The character class A-F works for the example as posted, but I assumed oH he was using A, B, C ... as placeholders for longer strings and/or more  elaborate patterns.$   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Aug 2002 09:11:54 -0700 . From: SPAMSINK2001@YAHOO.COM (Alan E. Feldman)- Subject: Re: Help - TPU Global_search_replacew= Message-ID: <343f30ae.0208080811.2e367b88@posting.google.com>e  Y sasadmin <jec@nospam.net> wrote in message news:<87lm7ibcq3.fsf@Alethion.systasis.net>...g) > paddy.o'brien@zzz.tg.nsw.gov.au writes:S >  > > David Gray wrote:s > > Q > > >Never really used EDT.  Is this likely to be quicker than TPU? Does this not  > 9 > Although TPU is orders of magnitude(!) faster than EDT,i    C Wrong!! Sometimes TPU is slower and incorrect!!! See example at the  end.     > EDT may be a > better choice. e    
 Of course!    9 >Consider creating an EDT initialization file, and defineiI > EDTINI to point at that file before invoking EDT. I'm *pretty* sure the E > substitute command is available in nokeypad mode; which is the modei% > you'd need to use for this problem.)    ; This is called line mode; nokeypad mode is something else. -     > s/ESC[0w//w/nota > s/ESC[2q//w/not2 > s/ESC[1g//w/notr > wi > exit > G > The /w qualifier on the substitute command forces EDT to start at the4 > top of the current buffer.    = /w is not a qualifier. The slash is the closing slash for theiC new-string field. "w" is short for WHOLE which means substitute all @ occurneces throughout the WHOLE buffer. A more readable version:   s/esc[0w// WHOLE /NOTYPE  2 ! Format:  S/old-string/new-string/ WHOLE /NOTYPE   B ! You can use -, `, or other characters instead of / as long as itB doesn't appear in your strings. You can omit /NOTYPE and use other# range specifiers in place of WHOLE.o   [...]m  F Example where EDT is faster and EVE is slower and incorrect! (vms 6.1)C (Note: I lowercased all characters in a Pascal listing file becauseKE EVE substitutes differently than EDT, preserving case in the original C string. With all lowercase letters, we can DIFF the resulting filesv and obtain meaningful results.)m    w $ TYPE 5.EVE global replace pat hat global replace other hold  global replace the a global replace in bint global replace system exciting write file .lis-5-eveP exit   $ TYPE 5.EDT
 set verify s/pat/hat/ whole /notype s/other/hold/ whole /notype- s/the/a/ whole /notype s/in/bin/ whole /notype   s/system/exciting/ whole /notype exit .lis-5-edt:  - $ @F:TIME EDIT/TPU HUH.LIS /INIT=5 /NODISPLAY0 $    TIM1=F$CVTIM(,,"TIME")lE $    COMMAND = P1 + " " + P2 + " " + P3 + " " + P4 + " " + P5 + " " +  P6 + " " + P7 + " " + P8
 $    SET NOONe( $    EDIT/TPU HUH.LIS /INIT=5 /NODISPLAY? 23553 lines read from file DISK$DATA1:[FELDMAN.PAS.ED]HUH.LIS;1t9 EDT keypad defined (for more information, see help on EDT 
 DIFFERENCES). * Executing commands in initialization file:" DISK$DATA1:[FELDMAN.PAS.ED]5.EVE;4 Feature requires a terminal  Feature requires a terminalgF 23553 lines written to file DISK$DATA1:[FELDMAN.PAS.ED]HUH.LIS-5-EVE;1 $    STATUS=$STATUSe+ $    WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "Execution time: ", -27        F$CVTIME(F$CVTIME(,,"TIME")+ "-" + TIM1,,"TIME")  Execution time: 00:00:53.56C $    EXIT STATUS  ! $ @F:TIME EDIT/EDT HUH.LIS /COM=5o $    TIM1=F$CVTIM(,,"TIME")fE $    COMMAND = P1 + " " + P2 + " " + P3 + " " + P4 + " " + P5 + " " +m P6 + " " + P7 + " " + P8
 $    SET NOON! $    EDIT/EDT HUH.LIS /COM=5 s/pat/hat/ whole /notype s/other/hold/ whole /notypec s/the/a/ whole /notype s/in/bin/ whole /notypec  s/system/exciting/ whole /notype exit .lis-5-edt66 DISK$DATA1:[FELDMAN.PAS.ED]HUH.LIS-5-EDT;1 23553 lines [EOB]  $    STATUS=$STATUS,+ $    WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "Execution time: ", -m7        F$CVTIME(F$CVTIME(,,"TIME")+ "-" + TIM1,,"TIME")f Execution time: 00:00:44.79. $    EXIT STATUS  ; $ DIFP HUH.LIS-5-EVE,.LIS-5-EDT /NOPARA   ! DIFP:=DIFF/PARAs ************/ File DISK$DATA1:[FELDMAN.PAS.ED]HUH.LIS-5-EVE;1'F     2   01                              source listing                :   8-sep-2000 19:07:05    [feldman.pas]ftgatdbm.pas;628 (1)     3      4   -line-idc-pl-sl-     5e ******/ File DISK$DATA1:[FELDMAN.PAS.ED]HUH.LIS-5-EDT;1hF     2   01                              source listbing               ;    8-sep-2000 19:07:05    [feldman.pas]ftgatdbm.pas;628 (1)-     3-     4   -lbine-idc-pl-sl-A     5  ************ ************/ File DISK$DATA1:[FELDMAN.PAS.ED]HUH.LIS-5-EVE;1kD    12   00007   c  0  0  *      the software and any copies thereof, whether in whole or in parts@    13   00008   c  0  0  *      and all copyright, hatent, trade secret  and  hold intellectualE    14   00009   c  0  0  *      and proprietary rights arebin are and  shall remabin a valuable ******/ File DISK$DATA1:[FELDMAN.PAS.ED]HUH.LIS-5-EDT;1eF    12   00007   c  0  0  *      a software and any copies areof, whear bin whole or bin parta@    13   00008   c  0  0  *      and all copyright, hatent, trade secret  and  hold bintellectualrE    14   00009   c  0  0  *      and proprietary rights arebin are anda shall remabin a valuable ************  r& Number of difference sections found: 2% Number of difference records found: 5-  -  DIFFERENCES /IGNORE=()/MERGED=1-/     DISK$DATA1:[FELDMAN.PAS.ED]HUH.LIS-5-EVE;1->.     DISK$DATA1:[FELDMAN.PAS.ED]HUH.LIS-5-EDT;1    < As you can see, EVE missed a few strings and took longer andB complained about "feature needs a terminal". Is there a secret setA verify command I can sneak into the EVE init script to see what'se causing the problem?    I tried this on VMS 6.2 and got:  ) DCL>  EDIT/TPU HUH.LIS /INIT=5 /NODISPLAY-> 23553 lines read from file SYS$SYSDEVICE:[FELDMAN.ED]HUH.LIS;19 EDT keypad defined (for more information, see help on EDTh
 DIFFERENCES).Z* Executing commands in initialization file:! SYS$SYSDEVICE:[FELDMAN.ED]5.EVE;4e  sF ::_NTA2: 10:45:48 TPU       CPU=00:01:40.26 PF=58848 IO=24127 MEM=5463F ::_NTA2: 10:45:50 TPU       CPU=00:01:40.27 PF=58856 IO=24128 MEM=5471F ::_NTA2: 10:45:51 TPU       CPU=00:01:40.27 PF=58856 IO=24129 MEM=5471F ::_NTA2: 10:45:53 TPU       CPU=00:01:40.27 PF=58856 IO=24130 MEM=5471F ::_NTA2: 10:47:14 TPU       CPU=00:01:40.27 PF=58856 IO=24131 MEM=5471F ::_NTA2: 10:47:22 TPU       CPU=00:01:40.27 PF=58856 IO=24132 MEM=5471F ::_NTA2: 10:47:23 TPU       CPU=00:01:40.27 PF=58856 IO=24133 MEM=5471F ::_NTA2: 10:47:47 TPU       CPU=00:01:40.27 PF=58856 IO=24134 MEM=5471F ::_NTA2: 10:49:44 TPU       CPU=00:01:40.28 PF=58857 IO=24135 MEM=5472 [node name removed]   > So it basically hung. I wouldn't call that "orders of magnitueC faster". It hung!!! I tried variations and sometimes it hung on vmsjF 6.1. In some cases EVE was twice as fast as EDT. In this case EVE tookB longer than EDT and made mistakes. And "orders of magnitude" means? powers of 10, and the best EVE did in my various tests (not allo= presented here) was a factor of 2 over EDT. Hardly "orders of5F magnitude". And in some cases I get "Feature requires a terminal" once" or twice and in others not at all.   Looks like you need EDT. :-)   Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman ) afeldman--------skipgfigroupskip------comk remove "skip"'s   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Aug 2002 11:55:05 -0600 + From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) - Subject: Re: Help - TPU Global_search_replace 3 Message-ID: <SEvq5qpld6yW@eisner.encompasserve.org>e   In article <craigberry-9A4B4F.10531008082002@news.directvinternet.com>, "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.telocity.com> writes: 5 > In article <ffGNSju$w3rx@eisner.encompasserve.org>, / >  young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) wrote:l > : >> > $ perl -pe "s/(A|B|C|D|E|F)/X/g;" < foo.txt > foo.txt > B >> 	Agreed.  Simple and/or tricky text substitutions perl.  Simple? >> 	ones, sed.  Mind bending text replacements, FLEX of course!s > , >> $ sed -e "s/[A-F]/X/g;" <foo.txt >foo.txt > I > The character class A-F works for the example as posted, but I assumed nJ > he was using A, B, C ... as placeholders for longer strings and/or more  > elaborate patterns.u    < 	You are right and I knew it after I wrote that.  The uglier 	sed equivalent is:n  9 	$ sed -e "s/\(A\|B\|C\|D\|E\|F\)/X/g;" <foo.txt >foo.txt)  @ 	Hmmmm, should our attitude as such (being sensitive in such an D 	eclectic world) acknowledge that if you are happy using a tool you < 	are comfortable with, use it?  Or should we try to convince: 	others of a better way... even if they suffer from a case2 	of NIH syndrome?  I say the latter, convert them!  B 	I would push sed for the only reason it is lightweight and single4 	dimensional.  Perl of course is much more powerful.   				Robt  : And the wind shall say:  "Here were decent godless people:>                           Their only monument the asphalt road:                           And a thousand lost golf balls."-                                 -- T.S. EliotR   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:02:44 -0700, From: "James Gessling" <jgessling@yahoo.com>6 Subject: Re: How to add mod_proxy module to CSWS 1.1-15 Message-ID: <aittm5$17bqml$1@ID-46415.news.dfncis.de>o  J I would guess that somehow the /define=eapi isn't working.  The check that is failing to createI that error message is the "MAGIC_COOKIE" in the header part of the moduleo data structure.iG One way to check is to compile like $cc/prepro=out.lis/define=eapi etc.. Look in out.lis for-G what value is there.  It's the 7th value in the structure.  For eapi itn should be 0x45415049ULL for non eapi it would be: 0x41503133UL.  Look in ap_mmn.h for details.  Look in mod_so.ce" to see where the error comes from.   Hope this helps,  Jimc  + <crazydaisy8888@yahoo.com> wrote in messageh0 news:3d519761.370875@news.scvmaxonline.com.sg... > Hi,h >@> > Our problem:    We cannot add mod_proxy module to CSWS 1.1-1 >eH > We are running CSWS V1.1-1 for OpenVMS Alpha. Successfuly compiled andB > added the mod_put module. We are now trying to add the mod_proxy > module using the same method.s >eF > From the mod_proxy.c source code provided in CSWS_SOURCES-V0102.EXE, > we compile using:  >iG > cc/define=eapi/pointer_size=32 mod_proxy.c      (with the appropriatem > include parameters)o >o > We link using: >c% > $link/share mod_proxy,sys$input/optt$ > SYMBOL_VECTOR= (PROXY_MODULE=DATA)6 > apache$root:[000000]apache$httpd_shr.exe_alpha/share > case_sensitive=nof > LIBPROXY.OLB/LIBRARY >p< > We copy the mod_proxy.exe file in the [.modules] directory > - > On Apache startup there is warning message:a > D > [warn] Loaded DSO modules/mod_proxy.exe uses plain Apache 1.3 API,G > this module might crash under EAPI! (please recompile it with -DEAPI)t >m? > We then redo the whole procedure except that we don't use the   > /define=eapi in the cc comand. >  > But still same warning.k > E > Is there a way to add mod_proxy to CSWS 1.1-1. We cannot upgrade to-' > CSWS 1.2 yet for a number of reasons.0 >0 > Thanks >l > Eric Bonneau! > National Institute of Educationj > Singaporen >    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 14:28:57 GMTt+ From: "Rick Barry" <barry@star.zko.dec.com>b6 Subject: Re: How to add mod_proxy module to CSWS 1.1-12 Message-ID: <Jev49.16$Oy1.217122@news.cpqcorp.net>  J That message is the result of mod_so checking for a "magic number" of AP13K in the module structure of mod_proxy. The magic number will indicate either K AP13 or EAPI, depending on the definition of the EAPI macro. Your mod_proxyuL module is using a magic number value for AP13, so the compile is not picking up the EAPI macro.  J Are you using DCL extended parsing when you compile the module? That would: result in "eapi" being defined which is not what you want.  
 Rick Barry) Compaq Secure Web Server Development Teame OpenVMS Systems Software Group Hewlett Packard Company 
 Nashua, NH  + <crazydaisy8888@yahoo.com> wrote in message(0 news:3d51986a.636453@news.scvmaxonline.com.sg... > Hi,  >.> > Our problem:    We cannot add mod_proxy module to CSWS 1.1-1 >nH > We are running CSWS V1.1-1 for OpenVMS Alpha. Successfuly compiled andB > added the mod_put module. We are now trying to add the mod_proxy > module using the same method.o > F > From the mod_proxy.c source code provided in CSWS_SOURCES-V0102.EXE, > we compile using:3 >7G > cc/define=eapi/pointer_size=32 mod_proxy.c      (with the appropriatee > include parameters)i >t > We link using: >d% > $link/share mod_proxy,sys$input/opt $ > SYMBOL_VECTOR= (PROXY_MODULE=DATA)6 > apache$root:[000000]apache$httpd_shr.exe_alpha/share > case_sensitive=noe > LIBPROXY.OLB/LIBRARY >?< > We copy the mod_proxy.exe file in the [.modules] directory >-- > On Apache startup there is warning message:: >-D > [warn] Loaded DSO modules/mod_proxy.exe uses plain Apache 1.3 API,G > this module might crash under EAPI! (please recompile it with -DEAPI)e >g? > We then redo the whole procedure except that we don't use thea  > /define=eapi in the cc comand. >v > But still same warning.s >_E > Is there a way to add mod_proxy to CSWS 1.1-1. We cannot upgrade top' > CSWS 1.2 yet for a number of reasons.n >m > Thanks >  > Eric Bonneau! > National Institute of Education  > Singaporeo >m   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Aug 2002 10:43:02 -0700a1 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris)0' Subject: HP-Compaq Merger Went Smoothly = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0208080943.2f6372e9@posting.google.com>   ? Despite all the FUD spread by competitors, the HP-Compaq mergeroE appears to have gone quite well, as evidenced by this news piece from  Yahoo:  " "Analysts Applaud HP-Compaq Merger  A The HP-Compaq union not only was the largest merger in technologyeF industry history, it also signaled the end of an era and the beginningF of the next chapter in enterprise computing, according to a new report by the Yankee Group."t ... D "The new HP eventually could give Big Blue fits as it gains strength= from consolidation efforts.  Accordingly, many in the analystd3 community have rallied behind the merger decision."a ...e "A Formidable Business l  D Indeed, HP's new combined server and storage product lines will giveC the company a significant boost in terms of the breadth of products B and technologies that it needs to compete, according to the Yankee
 Group report.   C As a result, the company should perform well against infrastructure F suppliers like IBM and Sun Microsystems, according to Gruener, as well8 as against server and storage leaders like Dell and EMC.  ? 'One of the places where HP has clearly become number one is inaE storage,' Howe said. 'Compaq was already very strong, but you combinee= that with HP's storage business and it's pretty formidable.'"p ...mE "Howe noted that HP has done a good job so far. 'I give HP credit forgB not slashing and burning [its phased-out product lines],' he said.@ 'The company is making it as painless as possible for customers. That's a good story.'" ...dB "'The net result of the merger is that there is more choice for HP? customers,' said Howe, 'and more people are likely to become HPt< customers because of the sheer breadth of their offerings.'"  J See http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nf/20020807/bs_nf/18917 for the full story. . ----------------------------------------------. Keith Parris | parris at encompasserve dot org   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 17:39:28 +0200+ From: "Luca_B" <balzano-spam-avoid-@iol.it>o Subject: looking for a DELQA( Message-ID: <aiu399$1huv$1@half.spin.it>   Hi all, < in these days of holiday I'm resurrecting my old MicroPDP...  / anyone around has a spare DELQA ethernet card ?A   rgrds    L.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 19:17:08 +02001& From: Michael Joosten <joost@c-lab.de> Subject: Re: mouse installed$ Message-ID: <3D52A794.7566@c-lab.de>   Carl Perkins wrote:a >   I > }Using an old MS Intellimouse 1.1A with VMS 7.2 at least does not work,3 > }s  E > The mouse that ships with an XP900 was a standard Logitech MouseMan C > three button mouse (with "COMPAQ" painted on the top side of it).r >   H Guess what's normally dangling off my PC164 board - yes, an old Logitech	 rodent...e -- p* Michael Joosten, SBS C-LAB, joost@c-lab.de* Fuerstenallee 11, 33094 Paderborn, Germany, Phone: +49 5251 606127, Fax: +49 5251 6060658 C-LAB is a cooperation of University Paderborn & SIEMENS   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:34:13 +0200-- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> 7 Subject: Re: OT Mac OS X woes, but advice needed please:' Message-ID: <3D5210E6.2AA7D837@Free.fr>e   Hi Paul,  J After having "played" with OS X a few days, I got so bored not to find theL commands and utilities that I needed at once, that I gave up with it until I? start learning UNIX, which will probably be in another life :-)   O But there is a new magazine in France which was published this month. Its name: O Precision MAC, and its goal: train Mac users to migrate to OS X. So, maybe one iB day, I'll read it and play with. The zin has a CD with some tools.  K For the moment, as my MACs are production systems, I stay and will strongly J recommend to stay with OS 9.2 unless you need some UNIX specific features.   Cheers.'   D.   Paul Sture wrote:s >  ../..aS > Should I simply abandon OS X and go back to OS 9? - at present, highly favoured..o   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 07:57:05 -0400 ' From: Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> 7 Subject: Re: OT Mac OS X woes, but advice needed pleaseo< Message-ID: <howard-60F9A7.07570508082002@enews.newsguy.com>  ) In article <NTS8+u3dG8cL@elias.decus.ch>,e+  p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) wrote:e  O > My problem is that my 3 month old iBook, running on OS X regularly drops the u, > odd file or two (or three or four or maybeK > more)). It's there according to the index (Finder, whatever), but simply N > gives "cannot open file".   E You mean the file gets lost?  Or what?  Have you tried a disk repair rH utility like TechTool Pro or the disk utility program provided by Apple 6 called "Disk Utility" which is already on your system?    O > Sorry, but the Mac community seems to be ignoring any complaint I have. I've i& > tried polite and less polite, all toM > no avail. I really don't want to hit the offensive route, but I am getting t > close to that.  H Perhaps no one noticed your question.  If you don't mind, where did you E post it and what was the title?  I just searched 5 of the Mac groups a1 (news:comp.sys.mac.apps, news:comp.sys.mac.comm, i; news:comp.sys.mac.system, news:comp.sys.mac.hardware.misc, yH news:comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage) for your name and didn't find you.  F Are you sure you posted it to a Macintosh-related group?  Or was your  posting several weeks ago?    I > Should I simply abandon OS X and go back to OS 9? - at present, highly = > favoured.2  1 Not recommended unless you like instability, IMO.+    O > What are your best recommendations on OS X backup strategies? (presently ftp  & > to my Alpha before I lose work, then > off to tape)  D I use Retrospect to an AIT tape library, but I don't know what your 
 needs are.   -- s# "Run in circles, scream and shout!"[ I hope you have good backups! * "Is this the right place for an argument?"   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 07:19:33 -0500/ From: "Stuart, Ed" <Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com> S Subject: OT: HP Withdraws DCMA Threat - Article from The Register concerni	ng Tru64cT Message-ID: <92EFB80E551BD511B39500D0B7B0CDCC0642C743@ohms.electric.ci.austin.tx.us>  E SnoSoft found a buffer overflow in Tru64 and HP threatened to use the F Digital Millennium Copyright Act to file charges, but later withdrew = theD/ threat and promised to fix the bug in 48 hours.e   EdE **Please apply a generous amount of all the usual disclaimers here.**y   The article can be found at:2 http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/26508.html   Here's the text.   HP withdraws DMCA threat=20 8 By John Leyden <mailto:john.leyden@theregister.co.uk>=20 Posted: 02/08/2002 at 11:39 GMT,> Hewlett Packard has climbed down from its threats to use the =
 controversialEF Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) to silence a group of securityD researchers which unearthed a flaw in its Tru64 operating system.=20  G In a statement released yesterday, the firm withdrew threats of using =t themF Act against Snosoft, a loose confederation of security researchers who= publicised a serious, and as yet unfixed, buffer overflow bug F <http://online.securityfocus.com/bid/5272/discussion/> within the su = utilitym
 of Tru 64.=20.  H HP states that it has verified the vulnerability, details of which, it = says,*D was brought to its attention on July 18 (a date disputed by Snosoft,I incidentally), and promises to release a fix for the problem within the =p next 48 hours.=20  D The computer giant is reluctant to be drawn on its discussion with = SnoSoft,I however it does say that the reported letter to SnoSoft threatening use =h ofE the DMCA against the firm "was not consistent or indicative of HP's =D policy".    B "We can say emphatically that HP will not use the DMCA to stifle = research orpE impede the flow of information that would benefit our customers and =  improvenH their system security," the statement, obtained by CNet in response to = itsa* earlier exclusive on the story, states.=20  G HP threatened Snosoft with the DMCA and criminal charges earlier this =e week= after one of its members, Phased, posted an exploit for the =T
 vulnerability.E (without permission from the rest of the group). In response to the =  posting,E this Monday HP Veep Kent Ferson fired off a letter warning that the =" securityE researchers "could be fined up to $500,000 and imprisoned for up to =  five years" for its actions.=20  D The warning letter from HP bears out the worst fears of the securityD industry that the DMCA will be used to stifle legitimate research, =	 followingAE on from the controversial prosecution of Russian programmer Dimitry =D Sklyarov and ElcomSoft.=20   H Faced with a backlash from developers and activists - and the prospect = ofI plunging itself into a public relations nightmare - HP has backed down, =1 likeG Adobe before it. At least in this case HP acted swiftly to withdraw its / threats, before the Feds got involved... =AE=204   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 19:25:45 +0200 & From: Michael Joosten <joost@c-lab.de>Y Subject: Re: Powerstorm 300 and Alpha PC 164 with OVMS 7.3 (long) - ELSA GLoria and PC1643$ Message-ID: <3D52A999.4287@c-lab.de>   Michael Joosten wrote: >  > Fred Kleinsorge wrote: > >4@ > > Michael Joosten wrote in message <3D514743.6231@c-lab.de>... > >4N > > I think you are asking in the wrong forum to find a Tru64 devo.  It sounds  G > No, I actually posted this last week in comp.unix.tru64, without much  > resonance... >   F Fortunately, the resoance here was higher. I got some help from StevenH M. Schweda, and the differences in his boot messages and such pointed meB to MY error (as usual, the biggest error is always in front of the keyboard...)  E The reason for the mess was that I left the config entries for an ISAo8 ATI Mach64 in SRM's ISA table, that is the ISA-VGA line.E Now, the Tru64 ATI driver seems to ask for the name 'MACH64' instead,nB but the plain VGA driver apparently accepts both. So, screen 0 wasD actually claimed by a non-existing card, and somehow the libcomet.soH initialization stuff for the Synergy got entirely confused. Removed that from the ISA table, and ...:   BINGO! CDE login screen.    E Again, a big thank-you to the audience for their help. In contrast to<' the Tru64 group, this one really lives!e   -- r* Michael Joosten, SBS C-LAB, joost@c-lab.de* Fuerstenallee 11, 33094 Paderborn, Germany, Phone: +49 5251 606127, Fax: +49 5251 6060658 C-LAB is a cooperation of University Paderborn & SIEMENS   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Aug 2002 03:00:59 -0700l- From: kanpeter@graduate.hku.hk (Peter CK Kan)e1 Subject: Recover files from multiple backup tapesL= Message-ID: <50c45596.0208080200.3a5b35fd@posting.google.com>t   Hi experts,r  F I backup 3 files with 2 tapes (with  file1, file2 and part of file3 onD 1st tape CV0065 and part of file3 on 2nd tape CV0066 -- file3 is too5 large to be contained in one tape) [script attached].a  B I can always restore file1 and file2 from backup successfully. TheA question is : How can I restore file3 (which span over 2 tapes) ?a   when I restore file3 using:e  A backup/ignore=label_processing mkc400:backup.dat/select=file3.datg
 file3.dat/loga  D it always prompt the operator for tape with label 'CV0002'. It seemsE that there's no way i can direct the system to read from CV0066 aftery" it finishes reading from CV0065...     -- peter     ===== backup script =====i $ ALLOCATE MKC400: $! init 1st tape $ MOUNT       MKC400: CV0066 $ DISMOUNT/NOUNLOAD    MKC400: l3 $ INIT/ERASE/MEDIA_FORMAT=COMPACTION MKC400: CV0066  $! init 2nd tape $ MOUNT       MKC400: CV0065 $ DISMOUNT/NOUNLOAD    MKC400:  3 $ INIT/ERASE/MEDIA_FORMAT=COMPACTION MKC400: CV0065  $! start backup 6 $ MOUNT/FOREIGN/MEDIA_FORMAT=COMPACTION MKC400: CV0065 $!E $ BACKUP/LIS=BACKUP.JOU/MEDIA_FORMAT=COMPACTION/FULL/LABEL=(CV0065, -c@    CV0066) file1.dat,file2.dat,file3.dat backup.dat/EXACT_ORDER  $ DISMOUNT    MKC400:  $ DEALLOCATE  MKC400:l   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:42:11 +0100i From: Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net>e5 Subject: Re: Recover files from multiple backup tapeso) Message-ID: <3D524B04.80DF6DB5@Omond.net>c   Peter CK Kan wrote:o  
 > Hi experts,i >cH > I backup 3 files with 2 tapes (with  file1, file2 and part of file3 onF > 1st tape CV0065 and part of file3 on 2nd tape CV0066 -- file3 is too7 > large to be contained in one tape) [script attached].n >dD > I can always restore file1 and file2 from backup successfully. TheC > question is : How can I restore file3 (which span over 2 tapes) ?n >. > when I restore file3 using:  > C > backup/ignore=label_processing mkc400:backup.dat/select=file3.dat  > file3.dat/logW >1F > it always prompt the operator for tape with label 'CV0002'. It seemsG > that there's no way i can direct the system to read from CV0066 afterh$ > it finishes reading from CV0065... >o > [... snip ...]  F I second Nic's advice NOT to use /ignore=label.  It's there for a very
 good purpose!y   On the restore, use:  D $ backup mkc400:backup.dat/select=file3.dat/label=(CV0065,CV0066) []  	 Roy Omond$ Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 11:27:50 +0100a( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>5 Subject: Re: Recover files from multiple backup tapes ) Message-ID: <3D5247A6.46C39CC8@127.0.0.1>t   Peter CK Kan wrote:m > 
 > Hi experts,r > H > I backup 3 files with 2 tapes (with  file1, file2 and part of file3 onF > 1st tape CV0065 and part of file3 on 2nd tape CV0066 -- file3 is too7 > large to be contained in one tape) [script attached].  > D > I can always restore file1 and file2 from backup successfully. TheC > question is : How can I restore file3 (which span over 2 tapes) ?  >  > when I restore file3 using:s > C > backup/ignore=label_processing mkc400:backup.dat/select=file3.dat  > file3.dat/log  > F > it always prompt the operator for tape with label 'CV0002'. It seemsG > that there's no way i can direct the system to read from CV0066 afterr$ > it finishes reading from CV0065...  A Try NOT using /IGNORE=LABEL_PROCESSING, in theory, when CV0065 isoG removed and CV0066 is put in the drive, BACKUP should continue. Perhapsf> you have an outstanding operator request on the console, try aG REPLY/TO=nn where nn is the request number which may kick it into life.i  H Also, make sure your BACKUP command is BACKUP/ASSIST, sometimes globally@ defined symbols override what you think your commands are doing.   HTH.   -- h? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciencesn nclews at csc dot comq   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 09:05:48 -0400* From: "Kaledas, Ronald" <RKaledas@dmc.org>5 Subject: RE: Recover files from multiple backup tapes4L Message-ID: <B39B28A01B62D311B1360090277B3A58070F7791@tro-nt-exchg2.dmc.org>  J This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand< this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.  ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C23EDC.5054B0D0e Content-Type: text/plain;  	charset="iso-8859-1"c  L I believe what's happening here is that backup is asking for volume 2 of theJ CV0065 volume "set"...since the third file spanned volumes (tapes), backupI automatically named the second volume according to its naming rule, whichuK takes the first 4 (?) characters of the volume name and then appends on thetG volume number of that volume within the set (hence CV00 + 02 = CV0002).   H Try just mounting the physically labeled CV0066 tape, with mount/over=idG (not in backup, just try this at dcl).  I bet you see that vms mounts a_K volume called "CV0002".  Also, have you tried actually putting in this tapepK when backup asks for CV0002?  I would think backup would continue with thisp tape.w   Ron    > -----Original Message-----B > From: kanpeter@graduate.hku.hk [mailto:kanpeter@graduate.hku.hk]) > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 6:01 AMa > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comn3 > Subject: Recover files from multiple backup tapes  >  > 
 > Hi experts,  > H > I backup 3 files with 2 tapes (with  file1, file2 and part of file3 onF > 1st tape CV0065 and part of file3 on 2nd tape CV0066 -- file3 is too7 > large to be contained in one tape) [script attached].c > D > I can always restore file1 and file2 from backup successfully. TheC > question is : How can I restore file3 (which span over 2 tapes) ?e >  > when I restore file3 using:e > C > backup/ignore=label_processing mkc400:backup.dat/select=file3.datn > file3.dat/logt > F > it always prompt the operator for tape with label 'CV0002'. It seemsG > that there's no way i can direct the system to read from CV0066 after,$ > it finishes reading from CV0065... >  > 
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 5.5.2653.12">m; <TITLE>RE: Recover files from multiple backup tapes</TITLE>t </HEAD>  <BODY>  E <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I believe what's happening here is that backup is =PF asking for volume 2 of the CV0065 volume &quot;set&quot;...since the =D third file spanned volumes (tapes), backup automatically named the =I second volume according to its naming rule, which takes the first 4 (?) =uH characters of the volume name and then appends on the volume number of =C that volume within the set (hence CV00 + 02 =3D CV0002).</FONT></P>   I <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Try just mounting the physically labeled CV0066 tape, =.I with mount/over=3Did (not in backup, just try this at dcl).&nbsp; I bet =>I you see that vms mounts a volume called &quot;CV0002&quot;.&nbsp; Also, = C have you tried actually putting in this tape when backup asks for = = CV0002?&nbsp; I would think backup would continue with this =0 tape.</FONT></P>   <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Ron</FONT> </P>  8 <P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>< <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: kanpeter@graduate.hku.hk [<A =I HREF=3D"mailto:kanpeter@graduate.hku.hk">mailto:kanpeter@graduate.hku.hk=s </A>]</FONT>F <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 6:01 AM</FONT>8 <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com</FONT>E <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Recover files from multiple backup =p tapes</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>u <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>G* <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Hi experts,</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>oC <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I backup 3 files with 2 tapes (with&nbsp; = ( file1, file2 and part of file3 on</FONT>G <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; 1st tape CV0065 and part of file3 on 2nd tape =e CV0066 -- file3 is too</FONT>eD <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; large to be contained in one tape) [script = attached].</FONT>e <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>dC <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I can always restore file1 and file2 from =t backup successfully. The</FONT>,F <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; question is : How can I restore file3 (which = span over 2 tapes) ?</FONT>s <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>s: <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; when I restore file3 using:</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT> : <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; backup/ignore=3Dlabel_processing =+ mkc400:backup.dat/select=3Dfile3.dat</FONT>s, <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; file3.dat/log</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT> E <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; it always prompt the operator for tape with =  label 'CV0002'. It seems</FONT>dH <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; that there's no way i can direct the system to = read from CV0066 after</FONT> A <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; it finishes reading from CV0065...</FONT>j <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>v <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>h' <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -- peter</FONT>. <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>e <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>d7 <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D backup script =  =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</FONT>1 <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $ ALLOCATE MKC400:</FONT>o/ <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $! init 1st tape</FONT>cE <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $ MOUNT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =p MKC400: CV0066</FONT>tG <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $ DISMOUNT/NOUNLOAD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MKC400: =e </FONT> H <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $ INIT/ERASE/MEDIA_FORMAT=3DCOMPACTION MKC400: =
 CV0066</FONT>y/ <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $! init 2nd tape</FONT>iE <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $ MOUNT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =d MKC400: CV0065</FONT> G <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $ DISMOUNT/NOUNLOAD&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MKC400: =g </FONT>sH <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $ INIT/ERASE/MEDIA_FORMAT=3DCOMPACTION MKC400: =
 CV0065</FONT>o/ <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $! start backup </FONT>oC <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $ MOUNT/FOREIGN/MEDIA_FORMAT=3DCOMPACTION =i MKC400: CV0065</FONT>t! <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $!</FONT>, <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $ =eI BACKUP/LIS=3DBACKUP.JOU/MEDIA_FORMAT=3DCOMPACTION/FULL/LABEL=3D(CV0065, =t -</FONT>3 <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; CV0066) =k< file1.dat,file2.dat,file3.dat backup.dat/EXACT_ORDER </FONT>D <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $ DISMOUNT&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; MKC400: </FONT>9 <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; $ DEALLOCATE&nbsp; MKC400:</FONT>t <BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>p </P>   </BODY>  </HTML>h) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C23EDC.5054B0D0--    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 08:12:14 -0400d2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)2 Subject: Re: Robust exception handler context in CJ Message-ID: <rdeininger-0208020812140001@1cust91.tnt1.nashua.nh.da.uu.net>  I In article <UpT5v2T4+F6Z@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.netj (Larry Kilgallen) wrote:    K >> The ability to nest procedures inside of procedures is something I miss D >> from Pascal.C >4M >Nested declarations are not sufficient.  Even Bliss has nested declarations,4I >but it required enable-actuals to make up for the fact that it lacks anyaG >uplevel addressing.  Pascal and Ada have both nested declarations andd8* >uplevel addressing.  C has none of these.  C I'm not familiar with this terminology.  Could you give a short AdaaC example of "uplevel addressing", and/or a short Bliss example usingt "enable-actuals"?s   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 11:32:56 -0400# From: "rob kas" <rob@paychoice.com>e; Subject: Re: Samsung says alpha lives ... Gartner loses ... 3 Message-ID: <3d528f27$0$1431$8e9e3842@news.atx.net>A        Bob  ?   Samsung has had lots of great "plans" and never did anything.6                              Rob  5 "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in messages6 news:d7791aa1.0208071539.533619c@posting.google.com...= > Sorry Gartner, J.F., Bill and all the others who said alphau= > is dead ... but you just can't keep a great processor down!b< > If ev69 does well, then all they need next is to pick up a* > few ev8 team members and look out ev8-9! >i >y" > Samsung revisits Alpha processor >r > Pursues separate plans >y0 > By Mike Magee: Wednesday 07 August 2002, 17:10 >pH > REMEMBER SAMSUNG has the rights to continue making Alpha processors in< > perpetuity, irrespective of whether Intel's got it or not.D > Right. Well sources tell us that in late September we'll see AlphaE > EV69 processors arriving with 1.75MB of level two cache on the die.i@ > Right up until now, the level two cache for the 21264 was on a > daughtercard.  > H > Production processors are expected to arrive while the chips have been5 > sampling for a little old while now, we understand.y >mH > By November we're likely to see dual CPU systems running at 1GHz using9 > the one die cache, and supporting DDR memory and PCI-X.f >i: > And early next year we'll see 1.2GHz Samsung Alpha CPUs. >n? > Samsung used to sell its CPUs through the now defunct API butlE > shilly-shallying caused a heap of angst amongst system integrators.h > F > During most of this year Samsung has kept its head under the parapetF > but now it looks like it's going to have another stab at the market,F > seeing as HP/Compaq seems to have thrown its lot in with the Itanic.   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Aug 2002 16:36:27 GMTa( From: nmm1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Nick Maclaren); Subject: Re: Samsung says alpha lives ... Gartner loses ...t0 Message-ID: <aiu6mb$nid$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>  3 In article <3d528f27$0$1431$8e9e3842@news.atx.net>,r% "rob kas" <rob@paychoice.com> writes:f |> nB |>   Samsung has had lots of great "plans" and never did anything.  : That is very true, but it is very unclear whether that was@ Samsung's fault (or even under Samsung's control).  For example,? I believe that Samsung put most of the money into API, but that1 Compaq had control.   > Similarly, there was a lot of speculation about whether Compaq= would sell Alpha to Samsung (in toto), and there were severals; occasions over several years when it seemed very plausible. ( But we don't know why it never happened.  : Speaking to a colleague, we can only think that this is an; attempt by Samsung to push Alpha into the embedded (perhaps6: games) market.  It just doesn't look possible that Samsung' could resuscitate it for anything else.o  ; But even that is speculative - we don't yet KNOW the reportt is correct.o     Regards, Nick Maclaren,* University of Cambridge Computing Service,> New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England. Email:  nmm1@cam.ac.uk/ Tel.:  +44 1223 334761    Fax:  +44 1223 334679    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 10:46:09 +0200V1 From: Franz-Josef Fornefeld <jo.fornefeld@gmx.de>r3 Subject: Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !r( Message-ID: <aiti5i.268.1@jo.dyndns.org>   Paul Winalski wrote:  E > Eh??  If your email client doesn't execute attachments, how is Klezt, > going to start running in the first place?  % HTML preview with JavaScript enabled.C   You do not even have to click.< The virus/worm does not need to be in the attachment anyway.  4 So throw away any mailreader that does HTML preview.   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Aug 2002 06:39:32 -0600,- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) 3 Subject: Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !n3 Message-ID: <pqxEJZ2X8SVC@eisner.encompasserve.org>   \ In article <aiti5i.268.1@jo.dyndns.org>, Franz-Josef Fornefeld <jo.fornefeld@gmx.de> writes: > Paul Winalski wrote: > F >> Eh??  If your email client doesn't execute attachments, how is Klez- >> going to start running in the first place?t > ' > HTML preview with JavaScript enabled.e  A If you are going to run that with data supplied from the outside,oA you might as well set the SYSTEM password to be MANAGER and avoido! the intermediate wasted CPU time.e   ------------------------------  * Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 13:45:29 +0000 (UTC) From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk3 Subject: Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !s+ Message-ID: <aitslp$cft$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>   l In article <3d5149b3.1644898208@proxy.news.easynews.com>, prune@ZAnkh-Morpork.mv.com (Paul Winalski) writes:B >On Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:47:46 +0000 (UTC), david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk >wrote:= >a~ >>In article <1fgerua.1qbru98usfy8cN%andekl_no@saaf_spam.se>, andekl_no@saaf_spam.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_Ekl=F6f?=) writes:3 >>>Terry C. Shannon <terryshannon@attbi.com> wrote:i >>> I >>>If you stop using Outlook Express and/or Outlook (don't even *install*TF >>>Outlook!), turn off the "Use Microsoft's Viewer" option in Eudora'sJ >>>settings, and install a decent antivirus program you'll be fairly safe.D >>>If that's not enough, get a Mac or a VMS box or  switch to Linux. >>>2Q >>Although it makes use of the MIME and IFRAME vulnerability in  Outlook, Outlook0L >>Express and Internet explorer to run without the user double-clicking just9 >>getting rid of these programs won't stop it completely.lI >>It looks for mail addresses anywhere on the local harddisk not just in  < >>the Outlook addressbook. It also spreads to remote shares. >wD >Eh??  If your email client doesn't execute attachments, how is Klez+ >going to start running in the first place?e >s  N The MIME and IFRAME vulnerabilities in Microsoft Mail clients allows it to runI without anyone opening the attachment but many other PC mail clients will 5 execute it if the user actually opens the attachment.   N When spread to remote shares it apparently also adds a value into the registryA so that the dropped file is run next time the system is rebooted.oK Don't ask me how it accesses a remote system's registry I'm just repeating iF its reported modes of operation as described on many Anti-virus sites.    
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 23:48:21 -0700 " From: Koloth <koloth@telocity.com>, Subject: Re: Some Alpha news on The Inquirer, Message-ID: <3D521435.23E3E6F6@telocity.com>  % How about VMSamsung?  Does that sing?5   :)   Cass Witkowski   "David J. Dachtera" wrote:   > Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:u > >e& > > "Samsung revisits Alpha processor", > > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4842 > >i$ > > "Alpha upgrade details Burtoned", > > http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4831 >nI > Couldn't help wondering if maybe Samsung is learning from Compaq's/HP's H > mistakes and, having access to "the ball", they may elect to "run with > it". >lJ > Wouldn't it be a hoot to see some off-shoot, subsidiary, etc. of SamsungI > buy VMS? Samsung already has a storage arm - my '486 has a Samsung hard  > drive in it. >aF > "Samsung OpenVMS" - doesn't exactly roll off the tongue (in AmericanF > English), but then VMS doesn't need to be marketed, or so some would > have us believe... >  > -- > David J. Dachteraa > dba DJE Systemsr > http://www.djesys.com/ >C* > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 08:24:04 +0200o- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>o Subject: Re: uaf' Message-ID: <3D520E85.C9E6504C@Free.fr>i   A Bonaveidogo wrote: > J > I started getting this error message few weeks ago.. it was working fine > before that... > M > Both nodes use the same uaf file therefore we just need to use one passworda > for both nodes..  I There is something that I do not understand. You can have one among three-* configurations when using two VMS systems:  X a) two systems are independant and just networked, but may share some disks, no cluster.  O b) an hetereogeneous cluster, i.e. each system has its own system disk but is ar member of a cluster   L c) an homogeneous cluster, i.e. one common system disk and one specific root directory for each member.  8 Which of these three possibilities is your config today?  O if it is a) I do not see any need to have a common SYSUAF. If you want a common O SYSUAF for obvious loggin questions, remove this DKB0: stuff and please build arE cluster. It is here for that (and for many other features, of course)v  O if it is b) you need a local sysuaf.dat file to boot (until the common "sysuaf" K disk is mounted, it is not available) and a common sysuaf.dat for users. It O seems that this is the config you have. In that case, the offending file is the6L local sysuaf.dat file on node A. Please do a dir/dat [*...]sysuaf.dat on the system disk of node A.  P if it is c) you need one and only one sysuaf.dat in sys$common:[sysexe]. Period. Please delete all others found.h   Advice, other participants? :-)p   D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:59:22 +0200k1 From: Franz-Josef Fornefeld <jo.fornefeld@gmx.de>y Subject: Re: uaf( Message-ID: <aitfdq.22k.1@jo.dyndns.org>   Didier Morandi wrote:o   > Franz-Josef Fornefeld wrote: >> > ../.. 6 >> Reader's error. To me the filenames look identical. >nO > Yes and No. For both systems, the security alarm is triggered by an access toeO > the same file. Ken implied that this DKB0 disk is a local disk for node B, sol* > there should be a DKA0: disk for node A.  C In fact, we do not really know. At least as long we cannot read ther( output of $SHOW CLUSTER and $SHOW DEV D.  G I guess (from the ALLOCLASS in the devicename) that the disk is unique../ Or node A and B are not in the same cluster ...e  C As I agree with Ken is the other points, I assume that there is the B SYSUAF logical defined (on both nodes) pointing to the given file.   regards, Jo6   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 10:11:55 +0100E% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>  Subject: Re: uaf8 Message-ID: <q3d4lu8mrse00egvnavqmid4llnl1o61ah@4ax.com>  9 On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 09:59:22 +0200, Franz-Josef Fornefeld  <jo.fornefeld@gmx.de> wrote:   >M >TD >As I agree with Ken is the other points, I assume that there is theC >SYSUAF logical defined (on both nodes) pointing to the given file.O  0 Let's assume it is the same file for a moment...  F Something is tickling the back of my mind about this. I vaguely recallF that I once saw sysuaf access errors from some nodes on a system whereB global buffers were enabled for sysuaf. The error presented to theC user was obscure (possibly even invalid access mode) but the actualc1 problem was an exceeded quota or sysgen resource.-  D I have definitely seen bizarre RMS access errors on other files whenD quotas are exceeded so maybe the problem is actually  quota/resource related.   >regards, Jo   -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 10:13:13 -0700 5 From: "Kenneth H. Fairfield" <My.Full.Name@intel.com>  Subject: Re: uaf) Message-ID: <3D52A6A9.4F25EAAE@intel.com>r   A Bonaveidogo wrote:   > Ken. >sI > Both nodes use their own systems disk... dkb1 can be accessed from bothc- > node... mounted with the same volume label.s    F     OK, then it looks like you're running a SCSI cluster with $1$DKB1:3 on the shared bus (please correct me if I'm wrong).m  D     Whether this is the root problme or not, it's important not onlyC to DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC SYSUAF (and RIGHTSLIST, etc.) in SYS$MANAGER:hA SYLOGICALS.COM, but to _mount_ $1$DKB1: in SYLOGICALS as well, so B that any process starting later in the system startup sequence hasC access to those files.  You will probably want to do some defensiveaE DCL programming, i.e., use small loop waiting for the device to exist B before attempting to mount it.  But for clusters in which cluster-@ common files (like your SYSUAF) live _off_ the system disk, it's? very important to mount the device with those files as early inn system startup as is feasible.  C     You say this problem just came up recently.  Did it occur afterhA one or the other system rebooted?  If not, I think we're grabbing : at straws and need to look elsewhere for the root cause...       -Ken  ? P.S. The supervisor mode definition of SYSUAF in your Job table ?      will be ignored.  If you want ot override the System tablet?      definition, the logical still needs to be defined /EXEC in 7      whatever table you define it in for it to be used.  --6 I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me...  
 Ken FairfieldC! F20 Automation VMS System Support  kenneth.h.fairfield#intel.comT   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Aug 2002 04:17:55 -0700t7 From: babiarz at endor.com <babiarz_member@newsguy.com> ! Subject: VMSMAIL_PROFILE clean ups) Message-ID: <aitk1302va6@drn.newsguy.com>c  = Are there any programs or methods that can be use to clean up D VMSMAIL_PROFILE.DATA of old users who have been deleted from SYSUAF?  2 Is there any reason that I should not clean it up?       john   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 13:25:42 +0100  From: Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net>=% Subject: Re: VMSMAIL_PROFILE clean up/) Message-ID: <3D526346.874C196D@Omond.net>o   "babiarz at endor.com" wrote:   ? > Are there any programs or methods that can be use to clean up F > VMSMAIL_PROFILE.DATA of old users who have been deleted from SYSUAF? >t4 > Is there any reason that I should not clean it up?  . There is every good reason for cleaning it up!   The program is MAIL itself..  9 To remove old users from the mail profile (needs SYSPRV):2   $ mail MAIL> help removeE MAIL> remove elvis MAIL> remove pressley3  	 Roy OmondT Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 08:52:38 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com>E% Subject: RE: VMSMAIL_PROFILE clean upBT Message-ID: <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4023D9426@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>  
 <<< $ mail MAIL> help remove  MAIL> remove elvis MAIL> remove pressley& >>>   G Might want to verify Elvis has not been receiving or sending any emails2 lately..   :-)E   RegardsA  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant/ Hewlett-Packard Canada! Consulting & Integration ServicesB Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax   : 613-591-4477 Email: Kerry.Main@hp.com     -----Original Message-----) From: Roy Omond [mailto:Roy@Omond.net]=20b Sent: August 8, 2002 8:26 AM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com % Subject: Re: VMSMAIL_PROFILE clean upC     "babiarz at endor.com" wrote:I  B > Are there any programs or methods that can be use to clean up=20F > VMSMAIL_PROFILE.DATA of old users who have been deleted from SYSUAF? >E4 > Is there any reason that I should not clean it up?  . There is every good reason for cleaning it up!   The program is MAIL itself.>  9 To remove old users from the mail profile (needs SYSPRV):.   $ mail MAIL> help removep MAIL> remove elvis MAIL> remove pressley2  	 Roy OmondU Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 14:26:55 +0100T( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>% Subject: Re: VMSMAIL_PROFILE clean upr) Message-ID: <3D52719F.7FFA43ED@127.0.0.1>-   "Main, Kerry" wrote: >  > <<< $ mail > MAIL> help removem > MAIL> remove elvis > MAIL> remove pressley  > >>>: > I > Might want to verify Elvis has not been receiving or sending any emails4
 > lately.. >  > :-)a  E However, make sure Elvis isn't using the VMS box to reroute (forward)gG his mail to some other system. A long gone VMS user maybe, but he couldp still be reading email.d  ? (I used to use a VMS box as a mailhub, and had Office/400 usersoG registered in the VMSMAIL file (SET FORW/USER ... ...) despite no validu UAF entry).c  . Y'know, there's a fella down our chip* shop...   *UK->US: Fries.. -- c? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciencesn nclews at csc dot com.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 16:03:43 +0100x From: Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net>d% Subject: Re: VMSMAIL_PROFILE clean upl) Message-ID: <3D52884E.AE3F0ADA@Omond.net>-   Nic Clews wrote:   > "Main, Kerry" wrote: > >r > > <<< $ mail > > MAIL> help removeR > > MAIL> remove elvis > > MAIL> remove pressley  > > >>>D > >5K > > Might want to verify Elvis has not been receiving or sending any emails  > > lately.. > >e > > :-)n >iG > However, make sure Elvis isn't using the VMS box to reroute (forward).I > his mail to some other system. A long gone VMS user maybe, but he could. > still be reading email.B  B I checked.  Seems that he's been dead for 25 years, but had indeed@ set a forwarding address to some address on the dark side of the8 moon.  Now I understand why I've got this huge number of> mails still waiting to be delivered;  I'm not sure whether the< moon has broadband yet (it'll certainly be before my part of the country gets it :-(E  A Should I just delete these from the mail queue ?  Or do you think A that the Internet connection to the moon will be available soon ?h   :-)   	 Roy Omondu Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 16:23:51 +0100 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>w% Subject: Re: VMSMAIL_PROFILE clean up 8 Message-ID: <i035luksfl8as7oj24e4oiec4rd7li7dbb@4ax.com>  D On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 16:03:43 +0100, Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net> wrote:   >Nic Clews wrote:a >y >> "Main, Kerry" wrote:  >> > >> > <<< $ mails >> > MAIL> help remove >> > MAIL> remove elvis, >> > MAIL> remove pressley >> > >>> >> >L >> > Might want to verify Elvis has not been receiving or sending any emails
 >> > lately..U >> > >> > :-) >>H >> However, make sure Elvis isn't using the VMS box to reroute (forward)J >> his mail to some other system. A long gone VMS user maybe, but he could >> still be reading email. >sC >I checked.  Seems that he's been dead for 25 years, but had indeedC  B Nonsense he's just been at Number One in the UK singles charts forC four weeks. And this Sunday I'm attending the Golden Smokies AwardscB (Arbroath, Scotland Independent Film Festival) where, I'm assured, Elvis will make an appearance   A >set a forwarding address to some address on the dark side of thee9 >moon.  Now I understand why I've got this huge number ofs? >mails still waiting to be delivered;  I'm not sure whether thed= >moon has broadband yet (it'll certainly be before my part of  >the country gets it :-( > B >Should I just delete these from the mail queue ?  Or do you thinkB >that the Internet connection to the moon will be available soon ? >i >:-) >e
 >Roy Omond >Blue Bubble Ltd.u >h >e >o   -- Alan   ------------------------------  $ Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2002 06:40:54 -0700, From: "James Gessling" <jgessling@yahoo.com>! Subject: Re: XML-RPC for OpenVMS?e5 Message-ID: <aitsd8$16rejf$1@ID-46415.news.dfncis.de>    Have you looked at this:  ( http://vms.stabilit.ch/uspweb/index.html   Jim)  J "Ondrej Prochazka" <ondrej.prochazka@deutsche-boerse.com> wrote in message7 news:4597c844.0208070811.6373d810@posting.google.com...' > Hi,N >tH > Does anybody know if an implementation of (server-side) XML-RPC existsE > for OpenVMS? If that is the case, does anyone have an experience ofC > using it?n >  > Many thanks, > Ondrej   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.434 ************************