1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 11 Aug 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 439       Contents: Alpha ECU floppy image RE: Alpha ECU floppy image Re: Alpha ECU floppy image RE: Alpha ECU floppy image Re: Alpha ECU floppy imageB Announce: LinkSys Router logging program for OpenVMS VAX and Alpha" Re: Automating EDIT/FDL ->OPTIMIZE# Re: BASIC LIB$routine help required  Re: Compression on DLT backup $ Re: Concatinating files under VM/CMS Re: Decserver 900TM  Re: Edsger Dijkstra is dead 7 Re: Encompass Board of Directors -- Call for Candidates 7 Re: Encompass Board of Directors -- Call for Candidates  Re: FORTRAN Alpha kit requested  FORTRAN Alpha kit requested  Re: FTP> get *.* does not work/ Re: FTPed files from Mac to VMS start with <LF> + FTPed files from Mac to VMS start with <LF> ) Re: Help with vax3200 (Maximun disk size) ? Re: HP's pulling of Compaq call-center contract puzzles Broward + Re: Itanic2 - the cHumPaq spin continues...  KLEZ DU JOUR0 Re: Register an Hobbyist layered product licenseP Register/load licenses (Was :Register an Hobbyist layered product license) licen* Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL ! Re: Stupid ways to use pipe  Re: Stupid ways to use pipe  test, ignore test, ignore test, ignore test, ignore Re: TS10 emulator rom images Re: uaf  Re: unsubscrie3 Re: Where to get ancient Software distribution CD's  Re: XML-RPC for OpenVMS?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 01:46:46 GMT  From: dittman@dittman.net  Subject: Alpha ECU floppy image 6 Message-ID: <ag_49.1454$Ue7.1385@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>  : I am trying to set up an Alphaserver 1000A.  I need to use; the OpenVMS/Tru64 ECU floppy, but mine is bad.  Does anyone / have an image file of the ECU floppy available?    Thanks.  --   Eric Dittman dittman@dittman.net = Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:25:21 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> # Subject: RE: Alpha ECU floppy image 9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKEJAFIAA.tom@kednos.com>   C Did you look at http://ftp.digital.com/pub/Digital/Alpha/firmware ?    >-----Original Message----- G >From: Eric Dittman [mailto:dittman@narnia.int.dittman.net]On Behalf Of  >dittman@dittman.net& >Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 6:47 PM >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  >Subject: Alpha ECU floppy image >  > ; >I am trying to set up an Alphaserver 1000A.  I need to use < >the OpenVMS/Tru64 ECU floppy, but mine is bad.  Does anyone0 >have an image file of the ECU floppy available? >  >Thanks. >-- 
 >Eric Dittman  >dittman@dittman.net> >Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/ >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). @ >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 00:40:40 GMT - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> # Subject: Re: Alpha ECU floppy image * Message-ID: <3D55ADE9.8030007@qsl.network>   Stuart Johnson wrote:  > Eric,  >    > "ECU Diskette V1.10 DEC Alpha ( > for use in configuration of systems to) > be used with OpenVMS and Digital Unix"?  > G > If so, I have one here in my hand. I recently used it in setting up 2 M > 1000A's so I know it is a good floppy. How would I make an image of it that  > I could email you?  G The ECU floppy distribution is restricted by the copyright notice that  G is on it.  Because of the third party copyright restrictions, I do not  . expect to ever see it available for downloads.  G An out of date extra ECU floppy should be able to be given away though.    -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 17:35:10 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> # Subject: RE: Alpha ECU floppy image 9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIMEJCFIAA.tom@kednos.com>    >-----Original Message----- 3 >From: John E. Malmberg [mailto:wb8tyw@qsl.network] ( >Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2002 5:41 PM >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com$ >Subject: Re: Alpha ECU floppy image >  >  >Stuart Johnson wrote: >> Eric, >>    >> "ECU Diskette V1.10 DEC Alpha) >> for use in configuration of systems to * >> be used with OpenVMS and Digital Unix"? >>  H >> If so, I have one here in my hand. I recently used it in setting up 2D >> 1000A's so I know it is a good floppy. How would I make an image  >of it that  >> I could email you?  > H >The ECU floppy distribution is restricted by the copyright notice that H >is on it.  Because of the third party copyright restrictions, I do not / >expect to ever see it available for downloads.  > H >An out of date extra ECU floppy should be able to be given away though.  # Why does it have to be out of date?    >  >-John >wb8tyw@qsl.network  >Personal Opinion Only >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). @ >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 01:19:05 GMT - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> # Subject: Re: Alpha ECU floppy image * Message-ID: <3D55B6E9.2010003@qsl.network>   Tom Linden wrote: 4 >>From: John E. Malmberg [mailto:wb8tyw@qsl.network] >>I >>The ECU floppy distribution is restricted by the copyright notice that  I >>is on it.  Because of the third party copyright restrictions, I do not  0 >>expect to ever see it available for downloads. >>I >>An out of date extra ECU floppy should be able to be given away though.  >   % > Why does it have to be out of date?   F No reason other than it is less likely that it is still needed by the  current owner of the media.   D The main thing that gets updated in the ECU floppies is support for D newer systems.  So an older and otherwise useless ECU floppy can be F given a home with a hobbyist.  [Unless there is some prohibitation of  that I am unaware of :-(]    -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Aug 2002 22:49:03 -0700/ From: pxxo-i60l@dea.spamcon.org (Phil Ottewell) K Subject: Announce: LinkSys Router logging program for OpenVMS VAX and Alpha = Message-ID: <4ed35bd8.0208102149.1bf8ddf0@posting.google.com>   E LinkSysLog is a Motif/X-Windows application for OpenVMS VAX and Alpha ; machines which enables them to display and save the logging E information broadcast by LinkSys gateway firewall/routers such as the E BEFSR41. It displays the inbound and outbound connections being made, D or refused, through the firewall, and allows you to do text searchesF and copy to the clipboard. The window is split into two panes, one forA inbound and one for outbound connections. The displayed lists can C optionally be filtered by port number and/or IP address, though all F information is still captured in the log file. The LINKSYSLOG.HLP fileD describes the various options available, such as beeping on incoming, connections, and changing the log file name.  C Download the source code and binaries for VAX VMS 6.2 and Alpha VMS  7.3 from the web pages  ) http://www.pottsoft.com/home/pds/pds.html    or  ' http://www.yrl.co.uk/~phil/pds/pds.html   ( or by anonymous ftp to ftp.pottsoft.com.  ? To contact me please send mail to my first name at pottsoft.com    - Phil Ottewell    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 14:10:28 +0000 . From: Graham Burley <100625.30@compuserve.com>+ Subject: Re: Automating EDIT/FDL ->OPTIMIZE - Message-ID: <3D551ED4.33FDDC6@compuserve.com>    Graham Burley wrote: >  > Joe wrote: > [snip]I > > Part of what I need is the bucket size optimized to drive cluser size  > > during the convert.  > [snip] > J > Edit the ANAL/RMS/FDL output and change the CLUSTER_SIZE before you feedA > this into EDIT/FDL/NOINTERACTIVE and you'll get the bucket size  > optimized. >  > Graham  C Sorry, I was jumping to conclusions there. Having now found the DSN  article:  P http://www.compaq.com/support/asktima/operating_systems/CTI_SRC901005001823.html  D Are you seeing this exact case, i.e. unused area with largest bucket size? ? Can you post the output of ANAL/RMS/FDL for one of these files?   C If so, it might be that EDIT/FDL/NOINT/GRANULARITY=2 will force the D areas to be recalculated. Otherwise I think I'd be looking at a hackF to diddle the BUCKET_SIZE of the unused area in the FDL analysis file.  @ BTW it's easier to see that EDIT/FDL/NOINT pays attention to theD CLUSTER_SIZE by looking at the ALLOCATION and EXTENSION values which will always be effected.     Graham   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 13:55:07 GMT  From: sasadmin <jec@nospam.net> , Subject: Re: BASIC LIB$routine help required2 Message-ID: <87d6sqlsqk.fsf@Alethion.systasis.net>  * Alan Frisbie <Abuse@NelsonUSA.com> writes:  F > > This is interesting. I checked in some code I contributed to DECUSB > > that combines BASIC and callable TPU to interact with VMS helpH > > libraries (HLM). There is one example of sending a call-back routineG > > to the librarian, and it doesn't use the LOC() function; which code / > > works despite omitting the LOC() reference.  > ; > I couldn't get it to work until I used LOC(), and that is : > what it is for.   I would welcome further clarification.  D Acutally, I was hoping *you'd* help me. I don't have access to BASIC or VMS to try this out.   $ Anyway, the poster's code works now.   --   Microsoft Free By 2003   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:19:13 GMT . From: "Tom Simpson" <simpsont@attbi.com.fubar>& Subject: Re: Compression on DLT backup< Message-ID: <52b59.74413$uj.39696@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>   Allan,  L Thanks for the information.  In re-checking the account and system settings, I'm sure that isK most likely the culprit.  I think I was being way too conservative with the  settings so as notE to impact interactive users while the operators were performing their  pre-backup tasks and users were still on the system.   I A couple of other questions...  How much memory does your system have and  what is the L channel count sysgen setting?  I think this may also need to be increased on our systems.   Regards, Tom   2 "Alan Greig" <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote in message2 news:mb07luglq4qljfmb2geupf3gjcdgh1f8i1@4ax.com...1 > On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 22:53:57 GMT, "Tom Simpson" # > <simpsont@attbi.com.fubar> wrote:  >  > >  > > L > >On our ES40 (VMS 7.2-1, latest "1" patches) with a dedicated SCSI adapter > >forF > >the tape and low system activity, the times almost doubled.  It was > >dramatically worse / > >when the normal user load was on the system.  > F > Following quotas are from an ES40 running 7.2-1 with latest patches: > ; > Maxjobs:         0  Fillm:       600  Bytlm:       128000 ; > Maxacctjobs:     0  Shrfillm:      0  Pbytlm:           0 ; > Maxdetach:       0  BIOlm:       300  JTquota:       4096 ; > Prclm:          10  DIOlm:      4096  WSdef:       200000 ; > Prio:            4  ASTlm:      4096  WSquo:       200000 ; > Queprio:         0  TQElm:        40  WSextent:   1000000 ; > CPU:        (none)  Enqlm:     32767  Pgflquo:    2000000  > H > Make sure sysgen channelcnt etc are sufficient. A couple of the quotasG > above are set for reasons other than backup. Any  daytime backups run H > at approx the same speed as the overnight backups with these settings.D > YMMV of course. We get over 30GByte/hr backup speeds sustained  toG > DLT7000 class drives which is approximately the drives rated capacity  > in compressed mode.  > 
 > >egards, > >Tom > > 5 > >"Alan Greig" <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote in message 5 > >news:ed94lukmvcospodup0kkkc4t5mcv0viu1r@4ax.com... 4 > >> On Wed, 07 Aug 2002 23:02:37 GMT, "Tom Simpson"& > >> <simpsont@attbi.com.fubar> wrote: > >>D > >> >Expect your Backup times to (at least) double with compression
 enabled... > >>H > >> Only if your drive is broken or you are not feeding it fast enough.5 > >> Make sure your backup account is properly tuned.  > >> > >> >Regards,	 > >> >Tom  > >> >< > >> >"Virginia Rogers" <vrogers@umich.edu> wrote in message) > >> >news:3D4FDA04.103A5FF9@umich.edu...  > >> >> John Santos wrote:	 > >> >> > H > >> >> > A bunch of the various mount/driver/scsi/backup ECO's affectedI > >> >> > compaction.  I think either the driver forgot the setting under K > >> >> > various circumstances (you would mount the tape with /compaction, H > >> >> > but some later event would clear the "compaction enabled" bit,I > >> >> > so the driver would then start writing in uncompacted mode, and G > >> >> > you would see the "compacted" state change spontaneously), or G > >> >> > it would neglect to actually set the hardware to the mode you G > >> >> > had requested (it would show as "compaction enabled", but the G > >> >> > tape would be writen un-compacted.)  Which ECO's do you have? 	 > >> >> > + > >> >> John, I'm not sure what ECO's are.!  > >> >> F > >> >> > Also, the TK89 is a distant descendant of the TK50, which isE > >> >> > a streaming drive.  To avoid stop/start cycles, if the data G > >> >> > is arriving a little slower than the drive requires, it would I > >> >> > write null blocks on the tape (which are skipped on read-back). D > >> >> > I don't know if the TK89 still does the same thing, but ifE > >> >> > the 1000A can't pump data to it fast enough, there could be E > >> >> > a lot of wasted space on the tapes.  Is the tape drive on a F > >> >> > SCSI bus by itself, or is something else contending with it?J > >> >> > Is there a lot of other disk access going on during the backups,F > >> >> > or does it basically have the system to itself?  This effectI > >> >> > can be minimized by giving BACKUP as much memory, I/O channels, E > >> >> > and process quotas as possible.  There is info about tuning ) > >> >> > the backup account in the docs. 	 > >> >> >  > >> >> L > >> >> I have been mostly trying the backup during the day.  There are lots of > >> >other J > >> >> drives on the scsi, although probably not very much disk activity. I  > >will 	 > >> >try 6 > >> >> it at night and bumping up some of the quotas. > >> >> 8 > >> >> Thanks for all of the suggestions from everyone. > >> >> I > >> >> It took me awhile to figure out that depending on when I used the  > >> >/MEDIA=COMPACTJ > >> >> qualifier, a later command might disable it.  However, even when I use  > >it  > >> >on theK > >> >> INIT and BACKUP commands, and make sure the compression light is on  on > >the > >> >front E > >> >> panel, it still doesn't make any difference.  Same thing when  manually > >> >selecting , > >> >> density override on the front panel. > >> > > >> > >> -- 	 > >> Alan  > >  >  > -- > Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:42:22 +0200 " From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl>- Subject: Re: Concatinating files under VM/CMS 6 Message-ID: <aj3mqi$18s7ob$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>  * Give the guy a break, there aren't any :-)  < "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> schreef in bericht- news:OQqsj4OdUecv@eisner.encompasserve.org... ? > In article <d05e3978.0208091232.65aae5a3@posting.google.com>, ) jim.m.hayes@delta.com (Jim Hayes) writes: G > > How can I concatinate several physical files under a single dd name  > > using a filedef command? > ? > Perhaps by consulting a newsgroup that has to do with VM/CMS.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 03:07:00 GMT 7 From: "news.alltel.net" <dbwoodw-removethis@alltel.net>  Subject: Re: Decserver 900TM& Message-ID: <or%49.74$Xu3.20485@news2>   Got it working - thanks!   Don Woodward   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 20:56:45 +0200 " From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl>$ Subject: Re: Edsger Dijkstra is dead6 Message-ID: <aj3nle$183cq9$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>  4 "Alan Greig" <a.greig@virgin.net> schreef in bericht2 news:plm7luk54f6h3k6odecl9avprl6u97kead@4ax.com...B > On Fri, 09 Aug 2002 14:54:05 GMT, system@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: >CF > >In article <3D53C9BA.E55C2846@Omond.net>, Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net> writes: ( > >>Sad news:  Edsger Dijkstra has died.> > >>See: http://www.ddj.com/documents/s=7338/ddj1028798699611/ > >>= > >>For those who don't know who he was, I suggest you shouldn
 > >>learn. > >>
 > >>Roy Omonds > >>Blue Bubble Ltd. > >> >rA > Author of the classic paper "Goto considered harmful" and chief  > architect of Algol IIRCr >oE Dijkstra was associated with Burroughs. He used to teach at Eindhovenl University, which ownedT several large systems.G He was not the architect for Algol; Algol 60 was partly designed by vant Wijnbergen and Algol68* had its roots (partly) in Leiden or Delft.J Dijkstra was proud to be a programmer. Algorithms designed by him have two distinct attributes: - they are very shortO% - mathematical proof for correctness.o? Dijkstra taught a course called "Inleiding tot de Kunst van heta& Programmeren" (Introduction to the ArtF of Programming). The course itself seemed not that difficult. The exam however was somethin else.L In fact the student had only three options (dutch tests are scored on a 1 to
 10 scale):<  - 9 : you had the algorithm right and the design was provenJ  - 6 : the algorithm was too lengthy but the supplied proof of correctness was ok  - 2 : go home and try again  
 Hana Vlems   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 01:27:14 GMT 1 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com>n@ Subject: Re: Encompass Board of Directors -- Call for Candidates- Message-ID: <SZZ49.70743$D36.68768@rwcrnsc53>i  I Interesting comparison with 10 years ago, when VMS had over 90 percent ofn
 the sessions.c  3 "Jan-Erik Sderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in messages! news:3D53FBCC.60672FC0@aaa.com...t= > Then I'd bet that you might find the comming  HPETS-2002 to1= > be interesting, this is the number of technical sessions inR > the different areas :  >e > NonStop       5 sessions > Linux         8 sessions > HP-UX/Tru64   8 sessions > MS .NET      17 sessions > OpenVMS      22 sessions >n > :-)a >- > Jan-Erik Sderholm.a >m > "Barry Treahy, Jr." wrote: > >t > % > > ...I have no interest in anything:D > > HP has to say beyond VMS and so far that has been very little... > >h   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 01:28:13 GMT 1 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com>m@ Subject: Re: Encompass Board of Directors -- Call for Candidates= Message-ID: <N_Z49.57161$sA3.15077@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>n  F It's been more than 5 percent over the past three years, what with the Encompassification, etc.  : "Stuart, Ed" <Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com> wrote in messageL news:92EFB80E551BD511B39500D0B7B0CDCC0642C764@ohms.electric.ci.austin.tx.us. ..G > That is what I have been told.  They say it varies and the 5% is more-	 > common.m >t > EdG > **Please apply a generous amount of all the usual disclaimers here.**8 >2 >  >  > > -----Original Message-----, > > From: Tom Linden [mailto:tom@kednos.com]) > > Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 1:16 PMu) > > To: Stuart, Ed; Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com-D > > Subject: RE: Encompass Board of Directors -- Call for Candidates > >  > >E > >s > >  > > >-----Original Message-----n9 > > >From: Stuart, Ed [mailto:Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com]l* > > >Sent: Friday, August 09, 2002 5:31 AM > > >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComE > > >Subject: Re: Encompass Board of Directors -- Call for Candidatesn > > >o > > >a> > > >The door is still open if any of you c.o.v. VMS advocates > > would like to sitnG > > >on the board of Encompass.  Encompass is looking for folks who aresA > > >interested in helping set the strategy for Encompass.  Thereo
 > > are threeaI > > >vacancies and applications are being accepted until August 12, 2002.n" > > >Applications can be found at:F > > ><http://www.encompassus.org/membership/bodcallforcandidates.html>A > > >There are 3-4 meetings a year that Encompass pays the travel  > > expenses forG > > >and there are a higher number of conference calls.  As far as timeeI > > >commitment goes its peaks and valleys between 15 and 5% of a typicala > > >workweek. > >4 > > Every week?A > >. > > >m > > >EdtJ > > >**Please apply a generous amount of all the usual disclaimers here.** > > >C > > >---+ > > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ? > > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). D > > >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 > > >1 > > --- * > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.> > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).C > > Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002n > >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 21:05:02 +0200e" From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl>( Subject: Re: FORTRAN Alpha kit requested6 Message-ID: <aj3o5d$17kkut$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>  G If you're not too particular about versions I could send you one on CD.n  It is about 5 years old I guess.  < "Didier Morandi" <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> schreef in bericht! news:3D53B27B.C35E0170@Free.fr...8/ > (looks like my previous post did not show up)  > F > Where could I find an on-line distribution kit of the latest FORTRAN	 Alpha/VMSp@ > kit? My Hobbyist PWS 600au CD-ROM drive is a non-VMS model :-( >e	 > Thanks,2 >  > D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:16:25 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>c$ Subject: FORTRAN Alpha kit requested' Message-ID: <3D537A58.517CDA20@Free.fr>o  N Where could I find an on-line distribution kit of the latest FORTRAN Alpha/VMS5 kit? My PWS 600au CD-ROM drive is a non-VMS model :-(n   Thanks,    D.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 08:02:19 GMT>. From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter LANGSTOEGER)' Subject: Re: FTP> get *.* does not worku5 Message-ID: <fM359.140224$cU1.4092239@news.chello.at>i  V In article <3D5382AD.843C72C@Free.fr>, Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> writes: >I run VMS 7.3 TCP/IP V5.1-15.. >I wish to copy files from my Mac to my Alpha.I >I started MPWS on the Mac and did connect to via FTP, providing my Mac's  >username and password.  >i: >I can do a SET DEF and a DIR and a GET one_file_only.COM.I >But if I do a FTP> get *.* or mget *.*or *.COM of whatever, I get this:l >i >DTL02> ftp  >FTP> open 192.168.1.2L >220 192.168.1.2 ms-ftp-plugin Version 1.0 (Fri Aug  9 10:47:09 2002) ready. >Connected to 192.168.1.2.= >Name (192.168.1.2:system): (this space intentionally etc...)  >331 Password required for ***.9
 >Password:! >230 User *** logged in, proceed.  >FTP> cd documents >250 "documents" cd successful.h >FTP> cd vms >250 "vms" cd successful.y >FTP> cd dcl >250 "dcl" cd successful.c	 >FTP> dirS >200 PORT command successful.h >150 ASCII transfer started.H >-rw-r--r--   1 ftp      staff             55 May 02 15:59 ALL_PRIVS.COM >.../..lP >-rw-r--r--   1 ftp      staff            272 Jun 25 12:00 VMS_FAC_TOC_BUILD.COMQ >-rw-r--r--   1 ftp      staff            458 Jun 25 10:33 VMS_FAQ_HELP_BUILD.COM L >-rw-r--r--   1 ftp      staff           3056 Aug 13 10:37 VMSFAQ_WIZARD.COME >-rw-r--r--   1 ftp      staff           6624 Aug 23 16:03 WEBDCL.COMiH >-rw-r--r--   1 ftp      staff          13044 Sep 25 16:33 WEBDOWEGO.COM >n >226 Transfer complete. < >8529 bytes received in 00:00:00.74 seconds (11.21 Kbytes/s) >FTP> get WEBDCL.COM >200 PORT command successful.t >150 ASCII transfer started. >226 Transfer complete./< >local: SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]WEBDCL.COM;1  remote: WEBDCL.COM< >6624 bytes received in 00:00:00.15 seconds (42.55 Kbytes/s) >FTP>t >FTP> get *.com & >550 *.com: No such file or directory., >%TCPIP-E-FTP_NOSUCHFILE, no such file *.com >FTP>  >m >Why?m  G 1) Because the FTP server is case sensitive and you need to use "*.COM"M   and/or  A 2) Because you use a wildcard you need to use MGET instead of GET    Have I won a cigar ?   -- a Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERc% Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atP A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm looking for (a) Network _and_ VMS Job(s)   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 01:33:20 GMT % From: Bob Harris <harris@zk3.dec.com>w8 Subject: Re: FTPed files from Mac to VMS start with <LF>= Message-ID: <harris-3F4EA5.21264910082002@juggl7.zk3.dec.com>y  ' In article <3D538382.3E701159@Free.fr>,e/  Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> wrote:s  P X Trying to transfer DCL command procedures from my iMac OS 9.2 to VMS 7.3 gives< X files with lines starting with a <LF> (but the first one).  F Besides checking to see if ASCII transfer was specified, I would also F question the <LF>.  Typically Macs use a <CR> as the line ending, not  <LF>.  T  I So my questions is, what utility did you use create the DCL files on the b@ Mac?  <LF> makes me think that you were working in the Mac OS X F Terminal.app using UNIX style editors (emacs, vi, other, ...), or you H were using an editor like BBEdit with the output file specified as UNIX 	 output.  B  E So, if the file was created with <LF> (UNIX style line terminators), >E then maybe the FTP utility you were using on the Mac was looking for nH <CR> as the line terminator to convert to a common FTP ASCII format, so C that the OpenVMS FTP utility could convert the FTP ASCII format to e OpenVMS RMS text files.g  $ Again, I'm just guessing about this.  2                                         Bob Harris   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 10:55:31 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>t4 Subject: FTPed files from Mac to VMS start with <LF>' Message-ID: <3D538382.3E701159@Free.fr>   N Trying to transfer DCL command procedures from my iMac OS 9.2 to VMS 7.3 gives: files with lines starting with a <LF> (but the first one).   Someone has seen this before?1   Thanks,1   D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 15:23:16 +0100s+ From: "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org>u2 Subject: Re: Help with vax3200 (Maximun disk size)& Message-ID: <3D5521D4.4060103@iee.org>  
 cmiink wrote:y  M > Sorry if this plea for help is off subject for this news group but I need aaE > quick answer. What is the limit of store (size) with a vax3200 with A > VMS 5.3 OS?  I need to increase the Seagate 1.0Gbyte (Hawk 2XL)aH > to the maximum allowed.  Also is there a larger replacement drive that# > will work with this system conf.?n  7 The only 3200 I remember was the VAXstation 3200, whichi8 was basically a MicroVAX 3500 in a BA23 box with an RD54: (or maybe RD53 ...) drive. None of that series of machines& came with a DEC supplied SCSI adapter.  0 If you really have a VAXstation 3200 with a Qbus0 SCSI adapter, then the answer depends on exactly4 which 3rd party adapter you have and how it presents itself to the system.i  5 If, in fact, you have a MicroVAX 3100 series machine,t5 the answer depends on exactly which one you have. Thel8 early (pre-April 1992) releases of the Model 10e and 20e: are limited to just over 1GB for the system disk with VMS.4 The even earlier Model 10 and Model 20 are similarly> limited but there was never an update to lift the restriction.: The later machines (Model 30 etc) have no such limitation.  8 The VAXstation 3100 series all have the limitation. None2 of the VAXstation 4000 series have the limitation.  : So the answer depends on much more accurate identification of exactly what you have.t  5 Having said all of that, VMS V5.3 was limited to diskl7 volumes of something like 8GB or so (IIRC). It was alsor9 much pickier about SCSI disks. Is there a good reason note< to upgrade to something like V7.3, where annecdotal evidence0 suggests that almost any modern disk just works?   Antonio.   -- V   ---------------o- Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.orgL   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 12:44:17 GMTn1 From: LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM (Jerry Leslie) H Subject: Re: HP's pulling of Compaq call-center contract puzzles Broward< Message-ID: <BU759.262378$q53.8059248@twister.austin.rr.com>  - Webmaster (webmaster@isitamerican.com) wrote:c= : HP's pulling of Compaq call-center contract puzzles BrowardeE : http://www.sun-sentinel.com/business/local/sfl-zanswer09aug09.story  : @ : South Florida economic development leaders said they also wereC : surprised: They knew of no other big loss of call-center business H : offshore, and indeed, have seen the call-center industry expand -- not1 : shrink -- even amid the current economic slump.n : C : "We don't see this as a trend," said high-tech consultant Michael/F : Langley, former president of the Broward Alliance and now an adviserB : to the state's development group, Enterprise Florida. "We're notE : immune from companies losing contracts. And this is a good alert totH : make sure we monitor closely. But we haven't seen this as a retreating% : industry, but one that is growing."  :   A This article claims a payback of less than a month for setting up,: a 10,000-seat operation in India (URL wrapped to 2 lines):  7    http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/a    0,14179,2865181,00.html1    ZDNet: Tech Update: Enterprise Applications /  (    Global services jobs landing in India     	    [snip]o  @    "Companies like GE, American Express and British Airways haveB    successfully demonstrated the benefits of the model, with totalD    savings of a few hundred million dollars between them," KandathilC    Jacob, a visiting professor at the management school at Bombay'sb8    Indian Institute of Technology (IIT), wrote recently.&                                       E    Citibank, Dell Computers, Oracle and Lufthansa are among the othertF    firms that have set up service centers in India, staffed by college>    graduates delighted to land a job paying $204-$245 a month.&                                       	    [snip]e  E    The cost of setting up operations can be cut further by renting ore.    leasing space, computers and telecoms gear.&                                       D    Some business groups estimate a large multinational can typicallyH    recoup within a month the cost of setting up 10,000-strong operations    in India.&                                       I    And the threat of disorder, posed by tension with neighboring PakistaneI    and religious riots in the western state of Gujarat, does not outweightH    the savings gained by transferring big chunks of back office and call!    center operations to India..."s  K U.S. companies purchase political risk insurance from the Overseas Private  L Investment Corporation (OPIC) to protect against nationalization, civil and  international war:  ,    http://www.opic.gov/insurance/welcome.htm    OPIC Insurance Main Page     >   "OPIC'S OBJECTIVE:I    To promote and facilitate U.S. investment in emerging market economies %    by helping businesses manage risk.y    e    Expertise    wG    "Interest in political risk is growing rapidly, driven by investors'aG    reluctance to invest in emerging market debt in the aftermath of the-C    financial crisis in Asia, Russia and Latin America. Although therG    crises were not caused by any sovereign exchange controls, investorsVD    are nevertheless seeking additional coverage for sovereign risk."I                                                                          CI                                                       - Standard & Poor's I                                                                          eH    Risk (risk), n. 1. Exposure to the chance of injury or loss; a hazardG    or dangerous chance. Risk in today's increasingly global marketplacehH    can take many different forms. Risk is a very real factor in businessG    and investor decision making, and managing that risk is paramount tolI    the ultimate success or failure of any international activity. WhethereF    it is the expropriation or nationalization of your assets or lossesC    that result from politically motivated violence such as civil or2E    international wars, these risks affect businesses across the globe E    every day. OPIC Political Risk Insurance provides the security and>G    peace of mind necessary to pursue opportunities in emerging markets,6@    places where the rules of the game can change drastically and
    suddenly."n  ? India's call center companies are currently having a price war:t  =    http://www.zdnetindia.com/news/national/stories/62890.htmlk;    Call centre players see price war as rates come crashingd      Priya Srinivasan, Mumbai,    July 29, 2002  I   "A price war has started in the call centre business. Some of the majorlE    players have slashed rates by as much as $13 and more per hour fordH    outbound services, say sources. According to estimates, the rates areG    down from $18-$22 per hour to as low as $7-$12 per hour for outboundeA    services in some cases. Prices have also come down for inboundo    services..."e  A Offshore teleradiology is being used to deal with the shortage ofd& radiologists (URL wrapped to 2 lines):  0    http://www.siliconindia.com/shownewsdata.asp?"    newsno=16072&newscat=Technology1    India to provide clinical services to the U.S.k    t    Friday, July 19, 2002    gH   "BANGALORE: Harnessing its highly developed information technology andF    medical skills, India will soon provide emergency room services and>    clinical process outsourcing (CPO) to hospitals in the U.S.  G    The first step towards extending remote healthcare services has beengH    taken by Indian IT major Wipro's healthcare and life science businessF    division, which has tied up with a major hospital at Massachusetts.C    Images of the radiology scans from the unnamed hospital would be2E    viewed here at the Manipal hospital, which has got the outsourcingjF    contract from Wipro. The reports would be sent back in the shortest!    possible time by radiologists.i  F    "Of course the radiologists will be supervised by our professionalsH    who have American medical degrees. They could be Americans or IndiansD    with American degrees. Like business process outsourcing, this isF    clinical process outsourcing," says D.A. Prasanna, vice chairman ofI    Wipro limited and chief executive officer of Wipro healthcare and lifee    science.u  G    The supervisory staff for the CPO would be part of Team Wipro, whichsD    would set up a center for excellence shortly here in India's techG    capital. "Our next step would in areas like pathology and cardiologya@    as well as emergency room services soon," Prasanna told IANS.  F    "There are two challenges that hospitals face in the U.S. One is ofF    productivity and the other is of clinical process. The hospital, inE    fact, has 650 IT professionals in the hospital and they may not begI    replaced if they leave. We will be filling up the gap for the hospitalt    from here..."  < The unnamed hospital is rumored to be Massachusetts General.  2 --Jerry Leslie   (my opinions are strictly my own)9   Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for emaile   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Aug 2002 14:15:08 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>4 Subject: Re: Itanic2 - the cHumPaq spin continues...6 Message-ID: <20020810141508.31823.qmail@nym.alias.net>  8 On 6 Aug 2002, nmm1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Nick Maclaren) wrote:   <snip>  : >    http://www.bstore.hp.com/cgi-bin/hpbs/initsession.jsp >i> >and follow the 'workstations' and 'personal workstations with >64-bit architecture' links. > ? >I can easily believe that there are other pages with differentt
 >information.t  J There are. I picked the first link I saw mentioning IA-64 which was "ia-32H & ia-64 servers". At the bottom it lists the "hp server rx 5670 series", & with the blurb...   C  "Scale up your Intel environment to RISC levels thanks to the next $   generation computing architecture"  
  - click -  (  ... "HP Server rx5670 4way Itanium=AE2"     Doh!     Doc. --=20s6 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.L ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.                             https://vmsbox.cjb.net=   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 01:55:40 GMTs1 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com>m Subject: KLEZ DU JOURo< Message-ID: <wuj59.80297$uj.43076@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>  B Note that the Taliban SPAMMER is now using my openvms.org address?  K Seems that a speedy trial and a slow hanging is the appropriate response to4 these cyberterrorists,  ) I have the rope. Do you have the tree????e   Following is partially munged.  ! Return-Path: <markgao@ureach.com> B Received: from tru64.org ([208.17.152.120]) by rwcrgwc51.attbi.comG           (InterMail vM.4.01.03.34 201-229-121-134-20020625) with ESMTPaE           id <20020811014712.WEWG11808.rwcrgwc51.attbi.com@tru64.org> G           for <terryshannon@attbi.com>; Sun, 11 Aug 2002 01:47:12 +0000w# Received: from <markgao@ureach.com>/,   by tru64.org (CommuniGate Pro RULES 3.4b7)7   with RULES id 320718; Sat, 10 Aug 2002 21:45:24 -0400  X-Autogenerated: Mirror # X-Mirrored-by: <markgao@ureach.com>u? Received: from smtp2.cybersurf.net ([209.197.145.112] verified)t+   by tru64.org (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4b7) E   with ESMTP id 320708 for terryshannon@openvms.org; Sat, 10 Aug 2002  21:45:23 -0400. Received: from Frnglsyn ([209.197.175.126]) byH           smtp2.cybersurf.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTPJ           id H0NOXQ00.UU3 for <terryshannon@openvms.org>; Sat, 10 Aug 2002           19:46:38 -0600- From: numbers-1413 <numbers-1413@presone.com>u To: terryshannon@openvms.org+ Subject: Hello,terryshannon,congratulations- MIME-Version: 1.0-$ Content-Type: multipart/alternative;#  boundary=E5100E58634sgOl5t1jV2182Ur% Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 21:45:23 -0400k) Message-ID: <auto-000000320708@tru64.org>0   --E51003E2gE58632182UFe30B9d Content-Type: text/html;+ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printableW     -- Terry C. Shannon Consultant and Publisher, SKHPC $ Director at Large, Encompass US Inc.6 Director of Technical Marketing, Science Medicus, Inc. terryshannon@attbi.com www.openvms.orgR www.sciencemedicus.com   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Aug 2002 12:04:20 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>9 Subject: Re: Register an Hobbyist layered product license.5 Message-ID: <20020810120420.2310.qmail@nym.alias.net>a  ? On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, "Alder" <MUNDDGNTDYTV@spammotel.com> wrote: 
 >Addendum: >  >s >d4 >The DECset Installation Guide states the following: >oJ >    "The Compaq DECset for OpenVMS, Version 12.4 software requires CompaqL >OpenVMS Operating System, Version 6.2, 7.1, or 7.2 (7.2-1 for         Alpha >systems) software." > M >The Hobbyist kit includes VMS 7.2 for Alpha, not 7.2-1.  Why issue a PAK for)M >software which requires a different OS version.  Am I the only one who can'tr* >install DECset with the Hobbyist license?  I As John pointed out, you got a kit from a later copy of the SPL. I didn't J think of the possibility of OS version problems or check for them. Can youI find a VMS shop locally that would lend you a later version of the OS CD?   I There is the possibility that it may work. However, it will not have been ! tested with the v7.2 VMS version.5     Doc. -- T6 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.K ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.                             https://vmsbox.cjb.net    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 12:39:09 +0200 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> Y Subject: Register/load licenses (Was :Register an Hobbyist layered product license) licene' Message-ID: <3D54ED4D.635A97D7@aaa.com>K  # OK, so know the obviouse questions.R: (Yes, I think I'v checked all docs and HELP on this issue)  ; Isn't there a way to "list" licenses on a particular systeme@ with a clear note saying "Registred" / "Not loaded" / "Loaded" ?  : (Well, I supose "Not Registred" isn't an option here :-) )  > We've been seeing a lot of posts lataly where the real problem> was confusion between using "LIC LIST" and/or "SHOW LIC". Very% easy to make that mistake, I'd say...    Jan-Erik Sderholm.w     Alder wrote: >  > D > Well I thought I had.  After all, VAXSET was showing up when I ranH > INSTALL LIST.  When I got the tip to run SHOW LICENSES the problem wasK > blindingly obvious.  The VAXSET license needed to be LOADed.  Geeeeeeezz.M > 1 > Thanks, Craig.  I hope this group is amused...., >  > Alder0   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 21:24:17 GMTf> From: andekl_no@saaf_spam.se (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Anders_Ekl=F6f?=)3 Subject: Re: Second KLEZ from ATTBI Today - TROLL !D: Message-ID: <1fgq39x.1lvu2g4bym80N%andekl_no@saaf_spam.se>  * Paul Sture <p_sture@elias.decus.ch> wrote:  @ > In article <aiti5i.268.1@jo.dyndns.org>, Franz-Josef Fornefeld <jo.fornefeld@gmx.de> writes:t > > Paul Winalski wrote: > > H > >> Eh??  If your email client doesn't execute attachments, how is Klez/ > >> going to start running in the first place?g > > ) > > HTML preview with JavaScript enabled.i > > " > > You do not even have to click.@ > > The virus/worm does not need to be in the attachment anyway. > > 8 > > So throw away any mailreader that does HTML preview.  C And/or turn off any preview pane or "Use Microsoft viewer" option -f5 they are on by default in Eudora for some odd reason.   h& > Can you please tell Microsoft that?    They just won't listen.y? Ditch Microsoft and you'll be a lot safer (primarily their maili? programs, secondary their OS). They still make some decent web V1 browsers and word processors - at least for Mac !o .    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 21:01:41 +0200 " From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl>$ Subject: Re: Stupid ways to use pipe6 Message-ID: <aj3num$179pjl$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>  G Not sure what it does for you but on VAX/VMS 7.2 it executes like this:s  & $ pipe sys$input < sys$login:login.com  F %DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized command verb - check validity and spelling   \SYS$INPUT\3   $s  0 Which is probably not what you're seeing, right?  9 "James Gessling" <jgessling@yahoo.com> schreef in bericht / news:aiummf$1781t1$1@ID-46415.news.dfncis.de... J > Ok, I couldn't resist.  We were sitting around trying to figure out what > goodG > the "<" character in a pipe command could be.  I was surprised by the. > result when I typed: > ( > $ pipe sys$input < sys$login:login.com >r > Can you guess what happens?  >u > Jimw >  >t >    ------------------------------    Date: 11 Aug 2002 04:02:48 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>$ Subject: Re: Stupid ways to use pipe- Message-ID: <87n0rujxcn.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   2 "Matt Muggeridge" <Matt.Muggeridge@hp.com> writes:  E > Ouch, I don't know what caused all the duplicate messages.  I thinko > I killed it now!   In a word, Telstra...n   -- a< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.a@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 19:26:48 +0200l- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>j Subject: test, ignores' Message-ID: <3D53FB58.677C6CC1@Free.fr>l   void   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 21:09:30 +0200e- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>a Subject: test, ignore ' Message-ID: <3D54136A.2F166BFD@Free.fr>    dummyn   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 21:10:14 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>f Subject: test, ignoret' Message-ID: <3D541395.66404582@Free.fr>    dummy 4d   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 23:32:22 +0200r- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>  Subject: test, ignore ' Message-ID: <3D5434E5.9D0DFA42@Free.fr>g   dummy 5l   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 01:15:38 -0000n From: sword7@speakeasy.org% Subject: Re: TS10 emulator rom images-/ Message-ID: <ulbelqf98fmn28@corp.supernews.com>n  3 Kevin Monceaux <OwnedByDogs@clearsource.net> wrote:uJ > I've recently tried to check out the TS10 VAX emulator.  I would be veryJ > happy to have an emulator that has ethernet capabilities.  Where can oneG > find the necessary rom images for the emulator?  The vax config filesrI > point to files such as ka655p.rom and ka630v1.3.rom but those files arewJ > not included.  There is a rom directory on the ftp server TS10 is on but > it is empty.  I Hmmm. so many asked me for a copy of ROM images for my TS10/VAX emulator. H I am not sure about any legal reasons to include them yet.  I know that , SIMH/VAX includes a copy of KA655 ROM image.  
 Thank you!   -- Tim Stark   -- h, Timothy Stark	<><	Inet: sword7@speakeasy.orgJ --------------------------------------------------------------------------F "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that H whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.. Amen." -- John 3:16 (King James Version Bible)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 16:02:09 +0200 ) From: Bart Zorn <B.Zorn@xs4all.nospam.nl>0 Subject: Re: uaf* Message-ID: <aj36d2$h8u$1@news1.xs4all.nl>    Gotfryd Smolik, VMS lists wrote:1 > On Thu, 8 Aug 2002, Kenneth H. Fairfield wrote:t >  >  >>+A Bonaveidogo wrote:t        [ Snip ...]   > B >>+P.S. The supervisor mode definition of SYSUAF in your Job tableB >>+     will be ignored.  If you want ot override the System tableB >>+     definition, the logical still needs to be defined /EXEC in: >>+     whatever table you define it in for it to be used. >  > 
 >  Disagree !  > A >  The problem has something with Davids question: both DIRECTORY,9 > and AUTHORIZE are "normal" (means: user mode) programm; < > that means: but supervisor and non-system-table definition> > are in use. But executive/kernel routines requires EXECUTIVE9 > definition, and AFAIR SETP0 honours system table *only* = > (what has some logic: when user logs in, then loginout must[: > access SYSUAF & co *without* (before !) the group number= > is known and before job table even exists - then make senseg' > to use the same way for SET PASSWORD. 9 >  Summary: without big affort anyone can force AUTHORIZEc? > to access differrent SYSUAF than LOGINOUT (and SET PASSWORD).08 >  Really - best auditing info from SET PASSWORD can say. > what is wrong with multiple SYSUAF logicals.  G I disagree with you here. A user mode program can request in its calls  I to the $TRNLNM system service that at least an EXEC mode logical name be sE used in the translation. There is no relationship between the access iI mode of a logical name and the image that makes use of it other than the s? defaults which apply to the $CRELNM and $TRNLNM system service.o        [ Snip ...]  	 Bart Zorno   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2002 19:50:35 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>r Subject: Re: unsubscrie ' Message-ID: <3D5400EA.8B86A3EE@Free.fr>   < INTRO4.  How do I subscribe to or unsubscribe from INFO-VAX?  H The address for subscription requests, as well as notes intended for theO moderator, is Info-VAX-Request@Mvb.Saic.Com.  Subscription requests are handlednN automatically by a mail server.  This mail server ignores the subject line andL processes each line of the message as a command.  The syntax for subscribing< and unsubscribing and setting digest or non-digest modes is:   0 SUBSCRIBE INFO-VAX      (ADD is a valid synonym)G UNSUBSCRIBE INFO-VAX	(REMOVE, SIGNOFF, and SIGN-OFF are valid synonyms)&5 SET INFO-VAX DIGEST     (to receive in Digest format) > SET INFO-VAX NODIGEST   (to receive each message individually)   K Case is irrelevant and attempts to fetch a copy of the mailing list will benJ rejected (I consider the information to be confidential).  Any message notI understood by the mailserver will be forwarded to a human (allegedly) for  manual processing.  				[Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com]  > If you are on Bitnet, send a mail message containing the text L "SUBSCRIBE INFO-VAX" to LISTSERV@(nearest listserv system).  To unsubscribe,L send a message containing the text "SIGNOFF INFO-VAX" to the *SAME* listserv	 address.    C If you are on the Internet in the UK, send a message containing thecF word SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) to info-vax-request@ncdlab.ulcc.ac.uk.   D.   BRITT HALPERN wrote: > F > Unfortunately due to the large volume of SPAM that I am getting that; > can be traced back to googles groups, I must unsubscribe.a > 8 > What is the procedure for unsubscribing to this group?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2002 18:28:00 -0500n2 From: "Stuart Johnson" <ssj152 AT charter DOT net>< Subject: Re: Where to get ancient Software distribution CD's/ Message-ID: <ulb8c1fjlpt9df@corp.supernews.com>y   Dann,a  I Is the March 1996 the only set you are interested in? I have a Sep 96 VAX 8 ConDIST set. Would this set be of any assistance to you?  I Are you in need of an entire ConDIST set, or just some selected products?a   Regards, Stuart Johnson ssj152 AT charter DOT nets    2 "Dann Corbit" <dcorbit@connx.com> wrote in message& news:aj17u102vjg@enews1.newsguy.com...F > I want to get a set of old ConDIST CD's (now called Software ProductL > Library).  I tried DEC/COMPAQ/HP/"Flavor-of-the-day" and also Ebay, but no > soap.i >,K > Where should I look to find a set of (for instance) "OpenVMS VAX Softwareo > Product Library: March 1996" >,K > I have the opposite problem of what is usual -- we have the license filess, > for the needed products, but not the CD's! >f > Any ideas? > --2 > C-FAQ: http://www.eskimo.com/~scs/C-faq/top.html& >  "The C-FAQ Book" ISBN 0-201-84519-9J > C.A.P. FAQ: ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/Chess%20Analysis%20Project%20FAQ.htm >l >    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Aug 2002 11:15:11 -0700) From: daniel@mimer.se (Daniel Gustafsson)a! Subject: Re: XML-RPC for OpenVMS?u= Message-ID: <de4cfd03.0208101015.6fd4d288@posting.google.com>i  F You have probably already seen this, but SOAP is available for VMS at:A http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/soap/soap.htmlr  N SOAP is not exactly the same as XML-RPC, but is a similar and common approach.   -- Daniel Gustafssonu Mimer SQL Developmentc< Validate SQL statements for SQL-92 and SQL-99 compliance at # http://developer.mimer.se/validatoru   ondrej.prochazka@deutsche-boerse.com (Ondrej Prochazka) wrote in message news:<4597c844.0208070811.6373d810@posting.google.com>... > Hi,d > H > Does anybody know if an implementation of (server-side) XML-RPC existsE > for OpenVMS? If that is the case, does anyone have an experience of  > using it?m >  > Many thanks, > Ondrej   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.439 ************************