1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 12 Aug 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 441       Contents: %WWW-F-MONTAGAR, not responding  Re: Advanced Server issues... 1 Re: Alpha ECU floppy image - HPAQ comment please? 1 Re: Alpha ECU floppy image - HPAQ comment please? F Re: Announce: LinkSys Router logging program for OpenVMS VAX and Alpha' Re: Apache execution of a VMS .COM file C Re: Arithmetic Data Corruption - Compaq TCP/IP Services 5.3 and NFS  Comment to Sue Re: FORTRAN Alpha kit requested / Re: FTPed files from Mac to VMS start with <LF> 3 Re: Graphics adaptor (VCB02) for MicroVAX machines.  Re: KLEZ DU JOUR Re: KLEZ DU JOUR RE: KLEZ DU JOUR followup  RE: KLEZ DU JOUR followup  Re: KLEZ DU JOUR followup  Re: KLEZ DU JOUR followup  Re: KLEZ DU JOUR followup  RE: KLEZ DU JOUR followup  Re: KLEZ DU JOUR followup  Re: KLEZ DU JOUR followup ) MacGSview does not open VAX Document .PS?  Re: MONTAGAR not responding  MONTAGAR not responding  Re: MONTAGAR not responding  Re: MONTAGAR not responding 
 OT: Hemp..... E Re: Register/load licenses (Was :Register an Hobbyist layered product E Re: Register/load licenses (Was :Register an Hobbyist layered product E Re: Register/load licenses (Was :Register an Hobbyist layered product * VMS Hobbyist User Guide: table of contents Re: XML-RPC for OpenVMS?F [OT] Use found for Notepad!  Re: [OT] RE: Out of Office AutoReply: uafJ RE: [OT] Use found for Notepad!  Re: [OT] RE: Out of Office AutoReply: uaf  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:29:35 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> ( Subject: %WWW-F-MONTAGAR, not responding' Message-ID: <3D56206E.58EB7133@Free.fr>    Mornin' everyone,   : Who knows when our beloved hobbyist site will be up again?   D.  C (soon to come, the book: "Becoming a VMS Hobbyist, a war story" :-)    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 00:24:59 GMT ! From: rob.buxton@wcc.spam.govt.nz & Subject: Re: Advanced Server issues...& Message-ID: <3d56ffce.1124799396@news>  C Another thing, if you have a WINS Server on the network is Enabling F WINS Resolution in the admin/config screen. You'll need the IP Address of the WINS Server.         2 On Thu, 08 Aug 2002 22:18:50 -0400, Michael Austin% <maustin@firstdbasource.com_x> wrote:   # >rob.buxton@wcc.spam.govt.nz wrote:  >> Michael,  >>  F >> First off I'm using Pathworks 6.1, not Advanced Server but I've had >> similar problems., >> I'm guessing this has worked in the past? >  > J >Actually this is a new install of Advanced Server (no previous Pathworks 
 >versions...)  >  >OpenVMS 7.3 >Advanced Server 7.3( >hardware support only. (Clients system) >  >  >>  H >> Sometimes the SAM can get trashed, not sure how. There's a utility to- >> check it,  SYS$SYSTEM:PWRK$SAMCHECK.EXE.>  , >> The "solution" can be to rebuild the SAM.1 >> You'll need to close down Advanced Server, run F >> sys$update:pwrk$config.com and first change the Domain to somethingD >> that doesn't exist. Go right through and let it build everything.C >> Then go back in and redo the config but this time using the live H >> details for your domain.  You'll need a suitable Domain Admin account >> and password etc. >>  I >> This happened a lot in earlier versions of Pathworks but I've not seen ( >> it in Pathworks 6.1 (ADV Server 7.3). >>   >> Rob.  >  ><snip>  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:25:46 -0500 2 From: "Stuart Johnson" <ssj152 AT charter DOT net>: Subject: Re: Alpha ECU floppy image - HPAQ comment please?/ Message-ID: <uld7gror0g7dc7@corp.supernews.com>    A couple of points:   K Eric already has a configuration diskette; but it is defective. That is why  he posted...J What he needs is for it to be "refreshed" - deguassed, reformatted and the contents rewritten. ( This should not violate the copyright(s)  I This was what I was thinking when I volunteered to make an image file for G him - he already has the diskette and the implied permission to use the L copyrighted material. Likewise, I also have the diskette, which is fortunateI as I have 2 AlphaServer 1000a's to use with it. Just try to change one of K these from NT to Tru64 or OpenVMS, or reconfigure one's EISA boards without  the ECU!  J It is in HP's best interests for these obsolete machines to continue to beH used - witness the Hobbyiest License program. While they may not make itG easy to obtain items like replacement ECU diskettes, I doubt they would H hinder someone from getting one; without this utility, in many cases the# computer may as well be a doorstop.   I Would one of our colleagues from HPAQ care to comment, officially or not? 2 Lets find a way to help Eric configure his system.   Regards, Stuart ssj152 AT charter DOT net     8 "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> wrote in message$ news:3D55ADE9.8030007@qsl.network... > Stuart Johnson wrote: 	 > > Eric,  > > ! > > "ECU Diskette V1.10 DEC Alpha * > > for use in configuration of systems to+ > > be used with OpenVMS and Digital Unix"?  > > I > > If so, I have one here in my hand. I recently used it in setting up 2 J > > 1000A's so I know it is a good floppy. How would I make an image of it that > > I could email you? > H > The ECU floppy distribution is restricted by the copyright notice thatH > is on it.  Because of the third party copyright restrictions, I do not0 > expect to ever see it available for downloads. > I > An out of date extra ECU floppy should be able to be given away though.  >  > -John  > wb8tyw@qsl.network > Personal Opinion Only  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 03:40:32 GMT  From: dittman@dittman.net : Subject: Re: Alpha ECU floppy image - HPAQ comment please?6 Message-ID: <Q6G59.5814$Ue7.1822@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>  1 Stuart Johnson <ssj152 AT charter DOT net> wrote: M : Eric already has a configuration diskette; but it is defective. That is why  : he posted...L : What he needs is for it to be "refreshed" - deguassed, reformatted and the : contents rewritten. * : This should not violate the copyright(s)  / My configuration diskette has been "refreshed".   < Thanks, everyone, for the help.  I'm now able to disable the' built-in Cirrus Logic video controller.  --   Eric Dittman dittman@dittman.net = Check out the DEC Enthusiasts Club at http://www.dittman.net/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 13:24:32 GMT  From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG O Subject: Re: Announce: LinkSys Router logging program for OpenVMS VAX and Alpha 0 Message-ID: <00A124A1.5D48AEF2@SendSpamHere.ORG>  o In article <4ed35bd8.0208102149.1bf8ddf0@posting.google.com>, pxxo-i60l@dea.spamcon.org (Phil Ottewell) writes: F >LinkSysLog is a Motif/X-Windows application for OpenVMS VAX and Alpha< >machines which enables them to display and save the loggingF >information broadcast by LinkSys gateway firewall/routers such as theF >BEFSR41. It displays the inbound and outbound connections being made,E >or refused, through the firewall, and allows you to do text searches G >and copy to the clipboard. The window is split into two panes, one for B >inbound and one for outbound connections. The displayed lists canD >optionally be filtered by port number and/or IP address, though allG >information is still captured in the log file. The LINKSYSLOG.HLP file E >describes the various options available, such as beeping on incoming - >connections, and changing the log file name.  > D >Download the source code and binaries for VAX VMS 6.2 and Alpha VMS >7.3 from the web pages  > * >http://www.pottsoft.com/home/pds/pds.html >  >or  > ( >http://www.yrl.co.uk/~phil/pds/pds.html > ) >or by anonymous ftp to ftp.pottsoft.com.  > @ >To contact me please send mail to my first name at pottsoft.com >  >- Phil Ottewell   Phil,   I This looks nice!  I configured the LINKSYSLOG.DAT file for the IP address K of the router and then accessed an inside machine from the DECUServe Alpha. " I got a stack dump which I did so:  v %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual address=0000000000000004, PC=FFFFFFFF807C08E4, PS=0000001B/ %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows J   image    module    routine             line      rel PC           abs PCO                                             0 FFFFFFFF807C08E4 FFFFFFFF807C08E4 O                                             0 FFFFFFFF807EE5E0 FFFFFFFF807EE5E0 )  LINKSYSLOG  LINKSYSLOG  wndGetIconWindow O                                         70774 00000000000096D4 00000000000396D4 -  LINKSYSLOG  LINKSYSLOG  vAddConnectionToList O                                         70029 0000000000007C38 0000000000037C38 ,  LINKSYSLOG  LINKSYSLOG  vReadMessageHandlerO                                         69283 0000000000006548 0000000000036548 O                                             0 FFFFFFFF807CA738 FFFFFFFF807CA738 O                                             0 FFFFFFFF807CA910 FFFFFFFF807CA910 O                                             0 FFFFFFFF807CAF54 FFFFFFFF807CAF54 O                                             0 FFFFFFFF807BC748 FFFFFFFF807BC748 O  LINKSYSLOG  LINKSYSLOG  LinkSysLog     67142 0000000000001D8C 0000000000031D8C O  LINKSYSLOG  LINKSYSLOG  __main             0 000000000000006C 000000000003006C O                                             0 FFFFFFFF843F5118 FFFFFFFF843F5118    --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 14:04:45 +0200 2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender)0 Subject: Re: Apache execution of a VMS .COM file; Message-ID: <3d5652dd.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>    Didier Morandi wrote:  > Paul Sture wrote: L > > I am trying to get Apache on VMS to execute a bit of DCL, and it doesn't > > want to play.  > >  > > Here's the html  > > 4 > > <form method="POST" action=/cgi-bin/dclproc.com> >  > Syntax for WASD is > 6 > $ say "<form method=""post"" action=""pso_finish"">" > F > so I guess that the single quote may be missing for the action spec.  C Quotes are optional in HTML as long as the attribute value does not + contain blanks or other special characters.   * > > However, the error log shows up with : > > I > >  malformed header from script. Bad header=%DCL-W-IVVERB, unrecognized ( > > co: /apache$root/cgi-bin/DCLPROC.COM > > L > > It does the same when I feed Netscape with localhost/cgi-bin/dclprof.com > > I > > Yet if I give Netscape localhost/cgi-bin/test-cgi-vms.com, that works  > > perfectly.  ? This really puzzles me. There shouldn't be a difference between B TEST-CGI-VMS.COM and your DCLPROC.COM with respect to how they are handled by Apache.  D Beware, however, that your script must emit a valid CGI header (e.g.H "Content-Type: text/plain") followed by *two* newlines. This must be theF script's first output to SYS$OUTPUT. Have a look into TEST-CGI-VMS.COM for an example.   K > > Is there a way of declaring to Apache that a .com file such be executed G > > as such? Or is the <form method="POST" bit wrong for Apache (it was # > > stolen from a WASD bit of code)    Nope. That's regular HTML.  B There are two possibilities in Apache to mark a script executable:  6 - Add a handler for it (depending upon the extension):       AddHandler cgi-script .com  A   and mark the directory the script is in to execute CGI scripts:        Options ExecCGI   E - Dedicate the directory to CGI scripts, regardless of the extension:   /     ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /apache$root/cgi-bin/   E Under Unix, the shell handles which processor is used, based upon the C script's shebang line. I'm not sure how this is handled with CSWS -  probably by the extension.   Hope this helps,   Martin --  F                           | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer3  Cetero censeo            | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de F  Redmondem delendam esse. |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/:                           | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 15:08:17 +1000 * From: James Cameron <james.cameron@hp.com>L Subject: Re: Arithmetic Data Corruption - Compaq TCP/IP Services 5.3 and NFS8 Message-ID: <pan.2002.08.12.15.08.10.916453.3688@hp.com>  6 On Mon, 05 Aug 2002 08:17:29 +1000, Mark Daniel wrote:F > *I am still a little concerned* that it appears unrated, at least on > < >    http://ftp.digital.com.au/pub/ecoinfo/ecoinfo/chron.htm > H > I would have thought that anything with the potential for *generalizedF > data corruption* and mayhem would be rated *1*.  It cost us ten days: > lost production plus resources diverted into chasing it.  H Yes.  The potential was significant.  If it was an operating system ECO,= part of OpenVMS itself, it would have been rated 1, I'm sure.   C All layered product ECOs are unrated.  That's a policy set above us E outside the CSC.  If you vehemently disagree with this policy, please B lodge a complaint so that we can escalate a change to the process.  F On the other hand, we have made it a strong recommendation on our mainC page: <http://ftp.support.compaq.com.au/>  We also made sure it was + mentioned at the DECUS Symposium in Sydney.    -- James    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 14:21:22 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>  Subject: Comment to Sue , Message-ID: <3D56AB14.BFACB7D2@videotron.ca>  H Got a few folded postscards recently from HP. Didn't bother opening themN because I didn't see "VMS" mentioned outside so I assumed they were for wintel* presentation in which I am not interested.  L So, if any  presentatiosn, whether organised by local offices or fom HQ planL to have serious VMS content, it would be a good idea to ensure that "VMS" is- visible from the envelope or folded postcard.   K Just a comment. (I realise that this may be totally outside of Sue's hands,  but I made the comment anyways)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:22:05 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> ( Subject: Re: FORTRAN Alpha kit requested' Message-ID: <3D561EAC.93E189D4@Free.fr>     I got one from another Hobbyist. Thanks,    D.   Hans Vlems wrote:  > I > If you're not too particular about versions I could send you one on CD. " > It is about 5 years old I guess.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:21:24 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> 8 Subject: Re: FTPed files from Mac to VMS start with <LF>' Message-ID: <3D561E83.68C9271F@Free.fr>   " Sorry, I forgot to set type ASCII. The files are VMS DCL sources.& It works fine with the ASCII type now.   D.   Bob Harris wrote:  > ) > In article <3D538382.3E701159@Free.fr>, 1 >  Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> wrote:  > R > X Trying to transfer DCL command procedures from my iMac OS 9.2 to VMS 7.3 gives> > X files with lines starting with a <LF> (but the first one). > G > Besides checking to see if ASCII transfer was specified, I would also G > question the <LF>.  Typically Macs use a <CR> as the line ending, not  > <LF>.  > J > So my questions is, what utility did you use create the DCL files on the > Mac?   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 18:20:02 GMT 6 From: kenn@excalibur.research.wombat.ie (Kenn Humborg)< Subject: Re: Graphics adaptor (VCB02) for MicroVAX machines.> Message-ID: <slrnalcgfu.sdp.kenn@excalibur.research.wombat.ie>  K In article <ulbeu19femnqa5@corp.supernews.com>, sword7@speakeasy.org wrote:  > Hello folks: > L > Someone asked me about graphics adaptor for my TS10/VAX emulator.  I only I > have a copy of VCB02 tech manual that provides graphics programming at  M > registers level.  Will VCB02 work on VAXserver 3900 machine (KA655 or CVAX  E > chip)?  I know that VCB01/VCB02 is designed for MicroVAX II series. = > If not, what graphics adaptor do that KA655 series support?   > I've got a VAXstation 3500 which contains a KA650 and a VCB02.@ The KA655 and KA650 share the same firmware, so the VCB02 should work with the KA655 too.   Later, Kenn   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 19:20:45 GMT 1 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com>  Subject: Re: KLEZ DU JOURO- Message-ID: <hOy59.63654$UU1.11277@sccrnsc03>    -- Terry C. Shannon Consultant and Publisher, SKHPCa$ Director at Large, Encompass US Inc.6 Director of Technical Marketing, Science Medicus, Inc. terryshannon@attbi.com www.openvms.orgo www.sciencemedicus.com* <system@SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote in message* news:00A1249C.8B0365B2@SendSpamHere.ORG...H > In article <wuj59.80297$uj.43076@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>, "Terry C.) Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> writes: E > >Note that the Taliban SPAMMER is now using my openvms.org address?0 > >rK > >Seems that a speedy trial and a slow hanging is the appropriate responsel to > >these cyberterrorists,u > J > Will that include the "Al Crapcoder" terrorist organization based in the > Pacific Northwest? >f  E Works for me. Plenty of tall trees in the Northwest (unless the idioteK tree-huggers have appropriated them all), and hemp is a renewable resource!t0 Hence this solution should make everyone happpy!   > --4 > VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001 VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM >s6 >   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" >e   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:50:01 GMT  From: system@SendSpamHere.ORGM Subject: Re: KLEZ DU JOURe0 Message-ID: <00A1249C.8B0365B2@SendSpamHere.ORG>  p In article <wuj59.80297$uj.43076@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>, "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> writes:C >Note that the Taliban SPAMMER is now using my openvms.org address?- >-L >Seems that a speedy trial and a slow hanging is the appropriate response to >these cyberterrorists,e  H Will that include the "Al Crapcoder" terrorist organization based in the Pacific Northwest?   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM             ,5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:56:59 -0700r# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>j" Subject: RE: KLEZ DU JOUR followup9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKEJJFIAA.tom@kednos.com>    >-----Original Message-----e1 >From: Paul Sture [mailto:p_sture@elias.decus.ch]n' >Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 10:42 AMf >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com# >Subject: RE: KLEZ DU JOUR followupi >e >u? >In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIMEJIFIAA.tom@kednos.com>, "Tomp! >Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:>C >> What is disturbing, is that you become anxious to open mail evene5 >> from names you recognize, because of impersonationr >> >tI >Thanks, you have just reminded me to complain at someone in HP (or is ite >Encompass?) > @ >I appreciate getting updates about VMS ands things related, but >this guy sendsi >mail from paul@whatever.  >SJ >I routinely discard any mail which comes with a first name only, as it is% >normally a get rich scheme or worse.   I Likewise.  I use TCPIP5.1 as my SMTP server and am disappopinted with theAL anti-spam fetures.  One thing that would be useful here, is a syntax checker6 for the config file since it is easy to miss a lexeme.   >__  >Paul Sturey >Switzerland >o >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.g; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).l@ >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 >a ---i& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 15:18:19 -0400  From: MikeR <mike@rechtman.com>p" Subject: RE: KLEZ DU JOUR followup6 Message-ID: <aj6d69$18lsk7$1@ID-103225.news.dfncis.de>  5 On Sun, 11 Aug 2002 13:41:45 -0400, Paul Sture wrote:i  H > In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIMEJIFIAA.tom@kednos.com>, "Tom Linden" > <tom@kednos.com> writes:H >> What is disturbing, is that you become anxious to open mail even from0 >> names you recognize, because of impersonation	 <snip...> H > I routinely discard any mail which comes with a first name only, as it, > is normally a get rich scheme or worse. __  C I do hope you're not expecting anything from e.g. George Michael...    > Paul Sture
 > Switzerland    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 12:37:22 GMTn1 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> " Subject: Re: KLEZ DU JOUR followup- Message-ID: <6Us59.60014$UU1.10849@sccrnsc03>    -- Terry C. Shannon Consultant and Publisher, SKHPCm$ Director at Large, Encompass US Inc.6 Director of Technical Marketing, Science Medicus, Inc. terryshannon@attbi.com www.openvms.org  www.sciencemedicus.comA "Doc.Cypher" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in messageg0 news:20020811101106.32289.qmail@nym.alias.net...< > On 11 Aug 2002, P.Young@unsw.EDU.AU (Patrick Young) wrote:? > >"Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> wrote in messageb, > >news:<%Aj59.85439$D36.78308@rwcrnsc53>...4 > >> According to SPAMCOP, the source of the KLEZ is > >r@ > >Actually, thinking about this a bit more, I like KLEZ, I like > >it a *lot* actually.  > >eD > >It might cause more people to rethink their email """SOLUTION""". >iD > Realistically, it isn't going to get them off Windows. They're too addicted( > to the other software that runs on it. >hL > >On another point - I would be perturbed if anyone put anti-virus software9 > >on our mail gateway box. I like my email as it stands.r > >tH > >Any thoughts about how an OpenVMS .exe passing though the AV softwareH > >would survive if it contained a pattern that just happened to match a > >Window(tm) virus ?  >hJ > You never know, you could end up with an admin who configures the system to( > block all files with a .exe extension. >MK > The installation of AV software on a mail hub just covers up the flaws ofmJ > other systems in the network. Even then, you might not catch everything,J > and the fact that a mail client on one of your systems is dumb enough toL > run content from an unverified source can cost you a lot of money to clean > up.s >rJ > What I would add is that I do not consider it my ISP's responsibility to4 > secure my computer for connection to the Internet.    L   I feel differently. I pay ATTBI plenty of money AND they habve BRIGHTMAIL,J the older greeware version of which works quite well. Perhaps ATTBI has it! misconfigured. They ain't saying.   D > take into account that they may fail. At work that's usually quiteG > different, people have the job of making sure it is secure, and staysyK > secure. That something like Klez can infect corporate networks shows that K > people are failing in this, but so few correctly identify the problem. It K > isn't the people who are writing these things, or the people infected and.9 > spreading them, it's the damn software on your machine.f >WG > Terry, Outlook Express was a free piece of junk that came with the OSmI > you're using on that machine. Dump it and look for another solution. If  theaH > risk it put you at has seriously annoyed you then write to M$ and tell themF > why you're dumping it. Perhaps Charlie Matco could tell M$ why their, > software sucks (and post it here too). :-)  L The thought has crossed my mind. I lost 40 hourd work in 100 hours back when I used the 98 virus.   >cJ > If you choose to continue using your PC for email and Usenet, then thereG > have been a few suggestions about a mail client. For news on a PC I'dd0 > recommend Xnews, see http://Xnews.newsguy.com.  K I pretty much have to use a Peecee since that's where I publish. But I willa check out your advice.   Thanks, Doc!   >2 >d > Doc. > --8 > The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it. > ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum. https://vmsbox.cjb.net   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Aug 2002 10:11:06 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>" Subject: Re: KLEZ DU JOUR followup6 Message-ID: <20020811101106.32289.qmail@nym.alias.net>  : On 11 Aug 2002, P.Young@unsw.EDU.AU (Patrick Young) wrote:= >"Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> wrote in messagep* >news:<%Aj59.85439$D36.78308@rwcrnsc53>...2 >> According to SPAMCOP, the source of the KLEZ is >0> >Actually, thinking about this a bit more, I like KLEZ, I like >it a *lot* actually.  > B >It might cause more people to rethink their email """SOLUTION""".  K Realistically, it isn't going to get them off Windows. They're too addicted7& to the other software that runs on it.  J >On another point - I would be perturbed if anyone put anti-virus software7 >on our mail gateway box. I like my email as it stands.0 > F >Any thoughts about how an OpenVMS .exe passing though the AV softwareG >would survive if it contained a pattern that just happened to match a 8 >Window(tm) virus ?L  K You never know, you could end up with an admin who configures the system to & block all files with a .exe extension.  I The installation of AV software on a mail hub just covers up the flaws of8H other systems in the network. Even then, you might not catch everything,H and the fact that a mail client on one of your systems is dumb enough toJ run content from an unverified source can cost you a lot of money to clean up.0  H What I would add is that I do not consider it my ISP's responsibility toK secure my computer for connection to the Internet. It's mine, and I have to B take into account that they may fail. At work that's usually quiteE different, people have the job of making sure it is secure, and stays I secure. That something like Klez can infect corporate networks shows that I people are failing in this, but so few correctly identify the problem. It-I isn't the people who are writing these things, or the people infected andd7 spreading them, it's the damn software on your machine.x  E Terry, Outlook Express was a free piece of junk that came with the OSoK you're using on that machine. Dump it and look for another solution. If thenK risk it put you at has seriously annoyed you then write to M$ and tell themlD why you're dumping it. Perhaps Charlie Matco could tell M$ why their* software sucks (and post it here too). :-)  H If you choose to continue using your PC for email and Usenet, then thereE have been a few suggestions about a mail client. For news on a PC I'dt. recommend Xnews, see http://Xnews.newsguy.com.     Doc. --  6 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.K ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.                             https://vmsbox.cjb.net.   ------------------------------    Date: 12 Aug 2002 04:22:35 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>" Subject: Re: KLEZ DU JOUR followup- Message-ID: <87wuqxkuwk.fsf@prep.synonet.com>e  3 "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> writes:e  E > Perhaps because, like 90 percent of the population, I have to use aeE > Windoze bok (akbeit with new and improved Norton antivitus software 0 > wich does a good job (usually) on Klez, et al.  > Well, if you *have* to use a borgbox, don't complain about the3 results. Even my daughter worked that out at 14. :)i  F > > I use PMDF and OpenVMS and have *NEVER* had a problem. Always have? > > used OpenVMS for email. I still have *every single* email IoC > > received since I got on email (around Jun 1990). I don't deletebF > > email, even the spam - you never know when you need to do a search
 > > on it :-)l  HB > Problem is, I can't desktop pubilsh on VMS unless I want to muckD > around with Dan Esbensen's DECwrite. Don't have the time for that.  F Personlly, I think you are runnning a huge risk having you work on the machine you juggle knives on...p   -- x< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.o@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------   Date: 12 Aug 02 00:59:22 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture)t" Subject: RE: KLEZ DU JOUR followup) Message-ID: <Clpie8yE+B1X@elias.decus.ch>   X In article <aj6d69$18lsk7$1@ID-103225.news.dfncis.de>, MikeR <mike@rechtman.com> writes:7 > On Sun, 11 Aug 2002 13:41:45 -0400, Paul Sture wrote:1 > I >> In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIMEJIFIAA.tom@kednos.com>, "Tom Linden": >> <tom@kednos.com> writes:oI >>> What is disturbing, is that you become anxious to open mail even from01 >>> names you recognize, because of impersonation9 > <snip...>DI >> I routinely discard any mail which comes with a first name only, as it - >> is normally a get rich scheme or worse. __b > E > I do hope you're not expecting anything from e.g. George Michael...h >    ROFL!o  4 I sincerely hope I never get an email from that man.  M If you are so naive, try looking at your favourite search engine for his nameaN plus "arrest". I believe "Los Angeles" or "Hollywood" may help you refine your search.t   ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 18:21:02 -0600 (MDT) " From: John Nebel <nebel@csdco.com>" Subject: Re: KLEZ DU JOUR followupG Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.21.0208111816440.21949-100000@athena.csdco.com>a  F PMDF + Sophos stops Klez nicely.  Then use IMAP (or Web Mail) with the* browser of your choice, reasonably safely.  
 John Nebel  , On Sun, 11 Aug 2002, Terry C. Shannon wrote:   >  >  > -- > Terry C. Shannon! > Consultant and Publisher, SKHPC-& > Director at Large, Encompass US Inc.8 > Director of Technical Marketing, Science Medicus, Inc. > terryshannon@attbi.com > www.openvms.org  > www.sciencemedicus.comC > "Doc.Cypher" <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message 2 > news:20020811101106.32289.qmail@nym.alias.net...> > > On 11 Aug 2002, P.Young@unsw.EDU.AU (Patrick Young) wrote:A > > >"Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> wrote in messagee. > > >news:<%Aj59.85439$D36.78308@rwcrnsc53>...6 > > >> According to SPAMCOP, the source of the KLEZ is > > >tB > > >Actually, thinking about this a bit more, I like KLEZ, I like > > >it a *lot* actually.  > > >yF > > >It might cause more people to rethink their email """SOLUTION""". > >-F > > Realistically, it isn't going to get them off Windows. They're too
 > addicted* > > to the other software that runs on it. > >RN > > >On another point - I would be perturbed if anyone put anti-virus software; > > >on our mail gateway box. I like my email as it stands.  > > >fJ > > >Any thoughts about how an OpenVMS .exe passing though the AV softwareJ > > >would survive if it contained a pattern that just happened to match a > > >Window(tm) virus ?0 > > L > > You never know, you could end up with an admin who configures the system > to* > > block all files with a .exe extension. > >7M > > The installation of AV software on a mail hub just covers up the flaws ofeL > > other systems in the network. Even then, you might not catch everything,L > > and the fact that a mail client on one of your systems is dumb enough toN > > run content from an unverified source can cost you a lot of money to clean > > up.V > >3L > > What I would add is that I do not consider it my ISP's responsibility to6 > > secure my computer for connection to the Internet. >  > N >   I feel differently. I pay ATTBI plenty of money AND they habve BRIGHTMAIL,L > the older greeware version of which works quite well. Perhaps ATTBI has it# > misconfigured. They ain't saying.- > F > > take into account that they may fail. At work that's usually quiteI > > different, people have the job of making sure it is secure, and stays M > > secure. That something like Klez can infect corporate networks shows thatbM > > people are failing in this, but so few correctly identify the problem. ItwM > > isn't the people who are writing these things, or the people infected and1; > > spreading them, it's the damn software on your machine.t > >rI > > Terry, Outlook Express was a free piece of junk that came with the OSXK > > you're using on that machine. Dump it and look for another solution. Ifs > theoJ > > risk it put you at has seriously annoyed you then write to M$ and tell > themH > > why you're dumping it. Perhaps Charlie Matco could tell M$ why their. > > software sucks (and post it here too). :-) > N > The thought has crossed my mind. I lost 40 hourd work in 100 hours back when > I used the 98 virus. >  > >:L > > If you choose to continue using your PC for email and Usenet, then thereI > > have been a few suggestions about a mail client. For news on a PC I'd.2 > > recommend Xnews, see http://Xnews.newsguy.com. > M > I pretty much have to use a Peecee since that's where I publish. But I will. > check out your advice. >  > Thanks, Doc! >  > >m > >s > > Doc. > > --: > > The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it. > > ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum. > https://vmsbox.cjb.net >  >  >    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 22:34:45 +0000 (UTC)e From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk" Subject: Re: KLEZ DU JOUR followup+ Message-ID: <aj6oq5$bib$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>t  i In article <55f85d77.0208110101.481b8e8c@posting.google.com>, P.Young@unsw.EDU.AU (Patrick Young) writes:tg >"Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<%Aj59.85439$D36.78308@rwcrnsc53>...s2 >> According to SPAMCOP, the source of the KLEZ is >e> >Actually, thinking about this a bit more, I like KLEZ, I like >it a *lot* actually.p >!B >It might cause more people to rethink their email """SOLUTION""". >aJ >On another point - I would be perturbed if anyone put anti-virus software7 >on our mail gateway box. I like my email as it stands.u >0F Unfortunately most systems accessing mail which has passed through ourF PMDF/VMS based mailhubs aren't running VMS. Even if the mail is storedH (as it is for our students) on a VMS system most will probably access itB remotely via POP or IMAP rather than logging in and using a local  VMS mail client.L Hence it is essential for us like most other organisations to run Anti-virus	 software.o  F >Any thoughts about how an OpenVMS .exe passing though the AV softwareG >would survive if it contained a pattern that just happened to match a P >Window(tm) virus ?r >A  F Doesn't matter whether the pattern matches or not. Since it has a .exeG extension something like 90% of mailhubs which are virus scanning woulde: probably drop it because it has an "executable extension".  O This is one of my pet peeves. Because of Microsoft software's poor security andKO their poor adherence to Mime standards we are stuck with most mailhubs blockingt> an ever growing list of "Microsoft standard file extensions". M You want to send someone a DCL command procedure ? Make sure your mail system J hasn't included the filename in the Mime headers. Filename ending ".com" -F Oh no thats a microsoft binary , might be a virus , have to drop that.    
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University  A >Sorry if that was a silly question. I don't do PC (Window(tm) oro >otherwise).   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 10:46:20 +0200i- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>p2 Subject: MacGSview does not open VAX Document .PS?' Message-ID: <3D56245C.8F8A17F9@Free.fr>s  N When trying to open a .PS document on my Mac with MacGSview 2.0 b3 I get errorS -21. The document is a PostScript doc built via VAX Document. The first line reads:f  N %!PS-Adobe-3.0  %%Title: 6444IG - %%Creator: VAX DOCUMENT V2.1-1I %%Copyright:A 1986,1987,1988,1989,1990,1991 DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION.   %%   5 Could someone share some light on this issue, please?  Tx.:   D.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 22:05:56 GMT/1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>F$ Subject: Re: MONTAGAR not responding' Message-ID: <3D56E49C.5C7A028A@fsi.net>3   Pascale Morandi wrote: > - > Who knows when www.montagar.com will be up?-  D TRACEROUTE did not yield anything interesting, but it looks like the2 trip ended somewhere near the border of verio.com.  - DJAS01::DDACHTERA$ mult trac www.montagar.com>C traceroute to WWW.MONTAGAR.COM (209.39.152.5), 30 hops max, 40 bytet packetsJ,  1  LANmodem (192.168.1.1)  3 ms  5 ms  2 ms;  2  dls801.dls.net (209.242.18.118)  138 ms  159 ms  124 msi9  3  lith.dls.net (209.242.18.113)  126 ms  158 ms  119 msyH  4  s6-1-0-7507.chicago.dls.net (209.242.19.165)  171 ms  130 ms  145 msF  5  f5.ba01.b003846-0.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.5.125)  162 ms 	 169 ms  1  28 mseH  6  g4-6.core02.ord01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.250.8.109)  127 ms  148 ms  127 msF  7  p6-0.core02.jfk02.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.85)  160 ms  149 ms  161 msG  8  p6-0.core01.jfk01.atlas.cogentco.com (66.28.4.122)  183 ms  170 ms   151 msG  9  p6-0.br01.jfk01.atlas.psi.net (154.54.1.22)  154 ms  185 ms  146 ms H 10  p6-0.ne.peering.tier1.us.psi.net (154.54.1.198)  160 ms  151 ms  150 msH 11  p3-0.se.peering.tier1.psi.net (154.54.1.253)  206 ms  159 ms  150 msG 12  se.peering-j.tier1.us.psi.net (154.13.2.40)  164 ms  193 ms  158 msCH 13  p1-1-1.r01.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.9.141)  187 ms  164 ms  152 msF 14  p4-1-0-0.r00.stngva01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.141)  197 ms  161	 ms  156 m  stF 15  p16-0-1-1.r21.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.5.34)  189 ms  219	 ms  188 m9 s4F 16  p16-2-0-0.r01.dllstx01.us.bb.verio.net (129.250.3.29)  183 ms  171	 ms  191 m  s G 17  ge-1-0-0.a11.dllstx01.us.ra.verio.net (129.250.28.165)  209 ms  199  ms  173  msF 18  d1-0-3-0-1.a11.dllstx01.us.ra.verio.net (157.238.229.222)  180 ms 	 205 ms  1  76 mss	 19  * * * 	 20  * * * 	 21  * * * 	 22  * * *.	 23  * * *o	 24  * * * 	 25  * * *h	 26  * * * 	 27  * * *n	 28  * * * 	 29  * * * 	 30  * * *o DJAS01::DDACHTERA$ n     -- a David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systemst http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/u   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 19:07:16 +0200p/ From: Pascale Morandi <Pascale.Morandi@Free.fr>o  Subject: MONTAGAR not responding& Message-ID: <3D5699C4.451AF4D@Free.fr>  + Who knows when www.montagar.com will be up?    Tx.n   D.  E PS: excuse the duplicate message, my usual news server will not servey% anything until tomorrow, "they" said.g   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 17:19:51 GMTr1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>n$ Subject: Re: MONTAGAR not responding' Message-ID: <3D56A190.47108188@fsi.net>d   Pascale Morandi wrote: > - > Who knows when www.montagar.com will be up?p >  > Tx.n >  > D. > G > PS: excuse the duplicate message, my usual news server will not servey' > anything until tomorrow, "they" said.r  B Drop a note to any address you can find for someone at vmsone.com.  2 John Wisniewski seems a good person to start with.   --   David J. Dachteral dba DJE Systemsr http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/c   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 15:49:14 -0400 ' From: Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> $ Subject: Re: MONTAGAR not responding< Message-ID: <howard-2652C3.15491311082002@enews.newsguy.com>  ' In article <3D56A190.47108188@fsi.net>, 3  "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote:t  4 > John Wisniewski seems a good person to start with.   David seems to be unavailable.   -- hA I hope you have good backups, or you will "Run in circles, scream # and shout!" when it happens to you.i* "Is this the right place for an argument?"   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 23:31:54 GMTs# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>1 Subject: OT: Hemp.....H Message-ID: <KtC59.88634$wh1.71292@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  < "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> wrote in message' news:hOy59.63654$UU1.11277@sccrnsc03...o >nG > Works for me. Plenty of tall trees in the Northwest (unless the idiotcC > tree-huggers have appropriated them all), and hemp is a renewable 	 resource!o2 > Hence this solution should make everyone happpy!  K Nice thought Terry, but hemp and its derivative products are illegal in thebL USA. How about some nylon or polyproplyene rope instead? Not the same cachet but every bit as functional.  " ----------------------------------L see....http://thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/ArL ticle_Type1&c=Article&cid=1026143848930&call_page=TS_News&call_pageid=968332 188492&call_pagepath=News/News   Aug. 1, 01:00 EDT%+ Canadian company battles U.S. hemp-seed bani- Rule devastating for exporter, lawsuit claimsA Isabel Teotonio  business reporterrF America's war on drugs has turned into a trade battle between the U.S.( government and a small Canadian company.  G Industrial hemp-growing company Kenex Ltd., will take on the U.S. StateaI Department tomorrow when it files a lawsuit under the North American Freeo Trade Agreement.  K The company, based in Chatham, Ont., is seeking at least $20 million (U.S.)iG compensation because it says the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration'se: attempt to ban hemp-seed foods is financially devastating.  K "Kenex's business was going to be built around and focused on its access tonL the U.S. market," says the company's lawyer Todd Weiler. "They were ready toK go to town and they have this come down on them.... It's not just that theyeL were exporting into the U.S., they had plans to do a heck of a lot more, and that got stymied."  H The company, which employs about 10 people, has grown and processed hempF oil, seed and fibre products since 1998 - when the Canadian governmentD lifted a ban on hemp farming dating back to 1938. Kenex is now NorthL America's largest producer of hemp seed, with three-quarters of its businessG going to the United States where it's illegal to grow and process hemp.f  I "The U.S. government has such an absurd practice of harassing and seizinghI shipments, that it's put a real chill in the market," says David Bronner,eL president of Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap (which contains hemp oil) and chairmanK of the Hemp Industry Association's food and oils committee. "Customers needmD on-time delivery and they can't be worried about hold-ups, let aloneH seizures ... we want the marketplace to be more free so we don't have to worry about DEA harassment."  L Legal counsel for Kenex met with Washington officials in March in an attemptL to prevent a long drawn-out trade dispute, but after the officials failed toE recognize the legality of Kenex's products, the company moved to seek E compensation under Chapter 11 of NAFTA, which allows investors to sue  governments.    L ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----I `The U.S. government has such an absurd practice of harassing and seizing.4 shipments that it's put a real chill in the market.'
 David Bronner.% President of Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap-L ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----    G "They haven't played by the rules. And it's crippled our investment ...tI we're done if this stands," Kenex president Jean Laprise told The Star in ; January when the company filed its notice of intent to sue.   L Spokespersons for the DEA and the State Department refused to comment on the= impending case until they reviewed the notice of arbitration.   B Kenex is the fifth Canadian company to face the U.S. government inD arbitration at a NAFTA tribunal. A three-member panel will listen toC arguments and issue a decision - a process that can take two years.a  J Even though hemp seed and oil is highly nutritious - packed with Vitamin EG and essential fatty acids - and is used in everything from bread to iceeK cream, the DEA wants it banned. That's because hemp and marijuana come fromnH the same cannabis plant containing the hallucinogen tetrahydrocannabinol* (THC), which gives pot smokers their high.  J Marijuana comes from the flowering tops of the plant and contains up to 15J per cent THC, while industrial hemp is made from plant stocks and has only8 trace amounts of the substance (less than 0.3 per cent).  J "It's inane logic, that because hemp and marijuana are from the same plantJ they must be the same thing," says Weiler. "It's akin to saying that a catK and cheetah are the same thing, so we should keep people from having cats."   K While marijuana has long been considered a controlled substance, industrialRI hemp products, such as fibres and textiles, are exempt from control undera U.S. legislation.k    L ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----L `It's akin to saying that a cat and cheetah are the same thing, so we should keep people from having cats.' Lawyer Todd WeilerL ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----    K However, the 1970 Controlled Substances Act still lists THC as a controlleduK substance, giving the DEA grounds for its "zero THC policy" in products form human consumption.  G The ruckus, which prompted Kenex to sue, started when a shipment of itseC sterilized hemp seed was confiscated at the border in 1999. After aiK four-month legal battle, Customs allowed the shipment to cross, but by that C time the seed had spoiled and the company had lost major customers.y  K Kenex argued the DEA's actions violated the 1970 Controlled Substances Act,aG which exempts sterilized hemp seed and oil from control. And six months.I after the seizure, the U.S. Department of Justice said the DEA lacked the1" authority to confiscate the goods.  K In October, 2001, the DEA issued a ban on food products made with hemp seedrI and oil, giving manufacturers and retailers until February, 2002, to pull0I products from the shelves. That would have dealt a blow to the $5 milliontF hemp food industry, but a counter-attack launched by the Hemp IndustryG Association blocked the move in a 9th Circuit Court of Appeals, where am@ decision is still pending. Kenex is a co-plaintiff in that case.  F "There's a lot of interpretation there," says Charles Tremblay, marketK development adviser for horticulture and special crops at the Department ofk! Agriculture and Agri-Food Canada.n  L "We want to expand the market for hemp products but we cannot assist (Kenex)J in their case as the Government of Canada because it's a private lawsuit."  I In Canada, where farmers are encouraged by the government to get into theiI business, hemp products must be labelled and cannot contain more than 0.3eJ per cent THC. Because the industry is so new, there are still no growth orF sales figures available, but Tremblay calls hemp an "emerging market."  D "It's important to reduce trade barriers that would prevent CanadianK companies to succeed in other markets so we'd like them to succeed in their D battle. We'd like it to be as legal in the U.S. as it is in Canada."   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 15:01:40 +0200u2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender)N Subject: Re: Register/load licenses (Was :Register an Hobbyist layered product; Message-ID: <3d566034.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>   : Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= (aaa@aaa.com) wrote:= > Isn't there a way to "list" licenses on a particular systemmB > with a clear note saying "Registred" / "Not loaded" / "Loaded" ? >o< > (Well, I supose "Not Registred" isn't an option here :-) )   You mean like this?y   $! LICENSES.COMo $! $! combine the output of- $!  $ LICENSE LIST /BRIEF  (on-disk database)I $! witho$ $!  $ SHOW LICENSE (active licenses)= $! to show which licenses are registered and which are loaded  $!8 $! Requires access to the license database (e.g. SYSPRV) $e# $ savmsg = F$ENVIRONMENT("MESSAGE")t
 $ SET NOON $ ON ERROR THEN GOTO helli $e- $ ! Create a temp file name FAO format stringn: $ tempfmt = F$CVTIME() - "-" - "-" - " " - ":" - ":" - "."  $ tempfmt = "SYS$SCRATCH:LIC_" -&           + F$GETJPI("","PID") + "_" -           + tempfmt -k           + "_!AS.TMP"# $ perm = F$FAO(tempfmt,"PERMANENT")a" $ vola = F$FAO(tempfmt,"VOLATILE") $yF $ ! Make a list of all active licenses in symbols 'lic_<product_name>'? $ SET MESSAGE /NOFACILITY /NOSEVERITY /NOIDENTIFICATION /NOTEXTd. $ ! Use /FULL to get the complete product name# $ SHOW LICENSE /FULL /OUTPUT='vola'j $ SET MESSAGE 'savmsg' $ OPEN vola 'vola' $ ! Read over header $ READ vola line $ READ vola line $ READ vola line $ vola_prod:2 $   READ /END_OF_FILE=end_vola_prod vola prod_name $   GOSUB clean_prod_named1 $   IF prod_name .EQS. "" THEN GOTO end_vola_prodt $   lic_'prod_name' = 1(2 $   ! read over remaining lines (up to empty line) $   vola_prod1:l/ $     READ /END_OF_FILE=end_vola_prod vola lined+ $     IF line .NES. "" THEN GOTO vola_prod1o $   GOTO vola_prod $ end_vola_prod: $n4 $ ! Read the list of registered licenses and compareE $ ! /BRIEF should allow for enough space to get complete product namen$ $ LICENSE LIST /BRIEF /OUTPUT='perm' $ OPEN perm 'perm' $ ! Read over header $ perm_header: $   READ perm line< $   IF F$EXTRACT(0,3,line) .NES. "---" THEN GOTO perm_header* $ READ perm line ! "Product  Producer ..." $ perm_prod:- $   READ /END_OF_FILE=end_perm_prod perm prodm  $   prod = F$ELEMENT(0," ",prod) $   prod_name = prod $   GOSUB clean_prod_name21 $   IF prod_name .EQS. "" THEN GOTO end_perm_prod.. $   IF F$TYPE(lic_'prod_name') .EQS. "INTEGER"7 $   THEN WRITE SYS$OUTPUT prod," registered and loaded"d< $   ELSE WRITE SYS$OUTPUT prod," registered, but not loaded"	 $   ENDIFY $   GOTO perm_prod $ end_perm_prod: $y $ hell:t9 $ IF F$TRNLNM("vola","LNM$PROCESS_TABLE") THEN CLOSE volas9 $ IF F$TRNLNM("perm","LNM$PROCESS_TABLE") THEN CLOSE perms $ f = F$FAO(tempfmt,"*")* $ IF F$SEARCH(f) .NES. "" THEN DELETE 'f'; $ SET MESSAGE 'savmsg' $  $ EXIT $a $ clean_prod_name:9 $   ! Clean symbol 'prod_name' of non-alphanum characters  $   tmp = prod_namei $   prod_name = ""	 $   i = 0e $   l = F$LENGTH(tmp)b $   clean_loop:i $     c = F$EXTRACT(i,1,tmp)/ $     IF (c .GES. "0" .AND. c .LES. "9") .OR. -d/          (c .GES. "A" .AND. c .LES. "Z") .OR. -i&           c .EQS. "_" .OR. c .EQS. "$"
 $     THEN! $       prod_name = prod_name + cl
 $     ELSE $       IF i .EQ. 0 THEN RETURNP# $       prod_name = prod_name + "$"o $     ENDIFl $     i = i + 1t& $     IF i .LT. l THEN GOTO clean_loop	 $  RETURNt   cu,n   Martin -- aG                            | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmert4  UNIX is user friendly.    | work: mv@pdv-systeme.deG  It's just selective about |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/h;  who its friends are.      | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 19:27:37 +0200o9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>nN Subject: Re: Register/load licenses (Was :Register an Hobbyist layered product' Message-ID: <3D569E89.5C84C45C@aaa.com>c  : Possibly (I havn't test-run your script), but my questions9 wasn't if it was possibly to write a *script* to do it...a   Jan-Erik Sderholm.?     Martin Vorlaender wrote: > < > Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= (aaa@aaa.com) wrote:? > > Isn't there a way to "list" licenses on a particular systemeD > > with a clear note saying "Registred" / "Not loaded" / "Loaded" ? > >n> > > (Well, I supose "Not Registred" isn't an option here :-) ) >  > You mean like this?. >  [A 90+ lines DCL script] >  > cu,e
 >   Martin > --I >                            | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmerM6 >  UNIX is user friendly.    | work: mv@pdv-systeme.deI >  It's just selective about |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/w= >  who its friends are.      | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.der   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 06:37:21 +0200%2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender)N Subject: Re: Register/load licenses (Was :Register an Hobbyist layered product; Message-ID: <3d573b81.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>   , Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= wrote: > Martin Vorlaender wrote:0 > > Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= wrote:A > > > Isn't there a way to "list" licenses on a particular systemCF > > > with a clear note saying "Registred" / "Not loaded" / "Loaded" ? > > >o@ > > > (Well, I supose "Not Registred" isn't an option here :-) ) > >  > > You mean like this?d > >  > [A 90+ lines DCL script] >o< > Possibly (I havn't test-run your script), but my questions; > wasn't if it was possibly to write a *script* to do it...   ; Well, you didn't explicitly exclude that possibility... ;-)8E This script is about the easiest solution I can think of (and I could(C probably code it in Perl in a lot less lines, but not everybody has. Perl).   cu,.   Martin -- 3F   OpenVMS:                | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer3    The operating system   | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de0F    God runs the           |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/:    earth simulation on.   | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 11:04:37 +02007- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>e3 Subject: VMS Hobbyist User Guide: table of contents.& Message-ID: <3D5628A5.D5EED36@Free.fr>  J Well, after all this idea may be a good idea, so here is a RFC for the VMS Hobbyist User Guide.   Current sources are:   1. OPENVMS FAQ entry VMS9m   orE   http://www.openvms.compaq.com/wizard/faq/vmsfaq_001.html#index_x_221   2. www.montagar.com & 3. http://www.djesys.com/vms/hobbyist/     A table of contents could be:    get a VAX or an ALPHA. purchase the Hobbyist CD' register (free) VMS licence at Montagar9 install VMS- install TCP/IP8 get connected to the Internet (via cable if possible :-)! install required layered productsr register products at Montagar0 play.9     Additions? Comments?   Thank you for the ones to come.  D.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2002 03:50:51 GMT ! From: Andy <acs@fcgnet.works.net> ! Subject: Re: XML-RPC for OpenVMS? > Message-ID: <Xns9267F24BEB372acsfcgnetworksnet@216.166.71.232>  7 daniel@mimer.se (Daniel Gustafsson) enlightened us withd6 news:de4cfd03.0208101015.6fd4d288@posting.google.com:   @ > You have probably already seen this, but SOAP is available for
 > VMS at: C > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/soap/soap.htmlF > ? > SOAP is not exactly the same as XML-RPC, but is a similar andA > common approach. n     @ Most likely because SOAP started out as XML-RPC. Somewhere there@ is an explanation of how XML-RPC grew "up" to become SOAP but I  can't find it right now....   B SOAP is a result of what happens when you take XML-RPC + Microsoft + a W3C committee. a  ( A comparison of the two can be found at:  7 http://weblog.masukomi.org/writings/xml-rpc_vs_soap.htmf   -ANdy-   ------------------------------    Date: 11 Aug 2002 11:23:42 -0700. From: SPAMSINK2001@YAHOO.COM (Alan E. Feldman)O Subject: [OT] Use found for Notepad!  Re: [OT] RE: Out of Office AutoReply: uafr= Message-ID: <343f30ae.0208111023.5e3afa79@posting.google.com>o  R Michael Joosten <joost@c-lab.de> wrote in message news:<3D514E68.6956@c-lab.de>... > John Eisenschmidt wrote: > >  > > To me, it's more frustrating than that. This happens on almost every one of my mailing lists, and it's a result of a miswritten mail rule. > >  > I > BTW: Similar frustrating is the lack of line breaks in your messages...j< > You seem to be almost the only one here that tends to post; > 'Roman Style' messages, you know, like ancient scrolls...8 >  > No offense meant, of course.     Ladies and gentlemen,o  B I have actually found a use for Notepad. When you get one of those? messages where the lines are not wrapped, cut and paste it intorE Notepad, and lo and behold, the message becomes readable! Cutting andiB pasting to Wordpad or Word results in a single block of text, withC lines wrapped, but complete loss of "hard returns" (hard returns in"C the sense of WordPerfect). Pasting into Notepad, on the other hand,wD results in a very readable, lines properly wrapped, all hard returns. present, blank lines between paragraphs, text.  ( So Notepad *does* have a use, after all.   Disclaimer: JMHO afeldman&gfi.group&com  remove dot between gfi and group   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2002 11:28:27 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>oS Subject: RE: [OT] Use found for Notepad!  Re: [OT] RE: Out of Office AutoReply: uaf 9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIEEJKFIAA.tom@kednos.com>a   Xemacs works great too.    >-----Original Message------6 >From: Alan E. Feldman [mailto:SPAMSINK2001@YAHOO.COM]' >Sent: Sunday, August 11, 2002 11:24 AMr >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com@ >Subject: [OT] Use found for Notepad! Re: [OT] RE: Out of Office >AutoReply: uafN >/ >s2 >Michael Joosten <joost@c-lab.de> wrote in message! >news:<3D514E68.6956@c-lab.de>...f >> John Eisenschmidt wrote:  >> >C >> > To me, it's more frustrating than that. This happens on almostoL >every one of my mailing lists, and it's a result of a miswritten mail rule. >> > >>J >> BTW: Similar frustrating is the lack of line breaks in your messages...= >> You seem to be almost the only one here that tends to post < >> 'Roman Style' messages, you know, like ancient scrolls... >> >> No offense meant, of course.o >n >i >Ladies and gentlemen, > C >I have actually found a use for Notepad. When you get one of those @ >messages where the lines are not wrapped, cut and paste it intoF >Notepad, and lo and behold, the message becomes readable! Cutting andC >pasting to Wordpad or Word results in a single block of text, witheD >lines wrapped, but complete loss of "hard returns" (hard returns inD >the sense of WordPerfect). Pasting into Notepad, on the other hand,E >results in a very readable, lines properly wrapped, all hard returns / >present, blank lines between paragraphs, text.e >9) >So Notepad *does* have a use, after all.b >o >Disclaimer: JMHOn >afeldman&gfi.group&comn! >remove dot between gfi and groupr >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).c@ >Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002 >a --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.381 / Virus Database: 214 - Release Date: 8/2/2002n   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.441 ************************