1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 14 Aug 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 446       Contents:
 Re: ABC ??
 Re: ABC ?? ACCVIO in DECC 6.5 OpenVMS 7.3" Re: ACCVIO in DECC 6.5 OpenVMS 7.3" Re: ACCVIO in DECC 6.5 OpenVMS 7.3" Re: ACCVIO in DECC 6.5 OpenVMS 7.3. Re: Cannot start DECwindow after upgade to 7.3< Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha] OpenVMS conversion< Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha] OpenVMS conversion< Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha] OpenVMS conversion< Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha] OpenVMS conversion< Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha] OpenVMS conversion< Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha] OpenVMS conversion Re: CSWB 1.0 still not updated Re: CSWB 1.0 still not updated
 CSWS & PHP
 CSWS & PHP Re: CSWS & PHP Re: DCL question
 DELNI & DEMPR  Re: DS10 shutting down RE: DS10 shutting down EMAIL I had sent Re: EMAIL I had sent Re: EMAIL I had sent Re: EMAIL I had sent Re: EMAIL I had sent Re: EMAIL I had sent Re: EMAIL I had sent Re: FTP 'net to PC to VMS  Re: FTP 'net to PC to VMS 3 Re: Graphics adaptor (VCB02) for MicroVAX machines. 3 Re: Graphics adaptor (VCB02) for MicroVAX machines. 3 Re: Graphics adaptor (VCB02) for MicroVAX machines. 3 Re: Graphics adaptor (VCB02) for MicroVAX machines. 3 Re: Graphics adaptor (VCB02) for MicroVAX machines. P Re: Graphics adaptor (VCB03) for VAXstation? (was: Graphics adaptor (VCB02) for $ Re: Help - TPU Global_search_replace$ Re: Help - TPU Global_search_replace HP Webcast - Tru64 & HP-UX Re: HP Webcast - Tru64 & HP-UX2 Re: Java plugin performance for interactive applet/ JetDirect Printing through Pathworks from Win95 3 Re: JetDirect Printing through Pathworks from Win95 3 Re: JetDirect Printing through Pathworks from Win95 3 Re: JetDirect Printing through Pathworks from Win95 3 Re: JetDirect Printing through Pathworks from Win95 3 Re: JetDirect Printing through Pathworks from Win95 ' RE: List of ASC/ASCQ codes for TL891/2?  Moderator in a user group ???  Oops!  Never mind....  Re: Oops!  Never mind....  Re: OpenVMS services Re: OpenVMS services Re: OpenVMS services Re: OpenVMS services= Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200. = Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200. = Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200. = Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200. = Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200. = Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200. = Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200. = Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200.   Reading FP, SP, and PC registers$ Re: Reading FP, SP, and PC registers Rexec from W2000 to OpenVMS  Re: Rexec from W2000 to OpenVMS  Re: Rexec from W2000 to OpenVMS  RWMBX State. Re: RWMBX State. Re: RWMBX State.& TCPIP TELNET service on alternate port* RE: TCPIP TELNET service on alternate port Re: Terminal logging Re: uaf ! Re: UCX and FTP Name Translation?  VAXstation 3100 not starting up # Re: VAXstation 3100 not starting up  Re: VMS to OpenVMS conversion  Re: VMS to OpenVMS conversion  Re: VMS to OpenVMS conversion  RE: VMS to OpenVMS conversion  Re: VMS to OpenVMS conversion  Re: VMS to OpenVMS conversion  VNC install fail VS3100 questions Re: VS3100 questions Re: VS3100 questions Re: XFC 2.0 out in the wild  Re: XFC 2.0 out in the wild " Re: XFC patch for VMS 7.3 is up..." Re: XFC patch for VMS 7.3 is up..." Re: XFC patch for VMS 7.3 is up..." Re: XFC patch for VMS 7.3 is up...  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:12:40 +0200 ? From: "Bo Hermanson" <informentor.hermanson@mailbox.swipnet.se>  Subject: Re: ABC ?? 6 Message-ID: <aou69.25564$t4.18403@nntpserver.swip.net>  G I think the "product" is in Maintenance mode, but IIRC it was Digital's  consulting service (now HP) K in the old time that  handled the ABC product, so please contact them for a  price.   Regards  Bo Hermanson Informentor AB    6 "Jan-Erik Sderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> skrev i meddelandet! news:3D597356.B6109CB7@aaa.com... 3 > Well, first the subject should have been "ACB ?".  > # > Second, I'v found the SPD !! at : $ > "http://www.compaq.com/info/spd/". > 9 > Now the problem is to find a price for "Q2-36XA*-**"...  >  > Jan-Erik Sderholm >  > PS. , > If anyone is interested, the SPD is here :2 > "http://www.compaq.com/info/SP3953/SP3953PF.PDF"3 > It's a real nice tool to do remote support of VMS 6 > systems. Secure with detailed logging and accounting > on all dialup accesses...  > DS.  >  > Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:  > >  > > HI !: > > Well, I havn't search the VMS' site yet, but I thought  > > I'd ask here just as well... > > = > > Some years ago i used a product (DEC called it an "asset" < > > at the time) called "Automatic Call Back". It run on VMS: > > and handled dialup terminals including calling back on8 > > different line/modem to pre-defined numbers to get a > > secure environment.  > > - > > Anyone know of this product/asset today ?  > >  > > Regards  > > Jan-Erik Sderholm.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:18:49 +0200 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>  Subject: Re: ABC ?? ' Message-ID: <3D5A74D9.FCCDD057@aaa.com>    OK. 9 I remember there was some "trouble" back then to get ACB. ? Anyway, I'v got a contact at Compaq Sweden now, that is working  on the issue...   2 And the SPD is still in "www.compaq.com/info/spd/"   Thanks anyway, Jan-Erik Sderholm.    Bo Hermanson wrote:  > I > I think the "product" is in Maintenance mode, but IIRC it was Digital's  > consulting service (now HP) M > in the old time that  handled the ABC product, so please contact them for a  > price. >    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 07:42:46 -07002 From: vankirk@decision.quest.gr (Stewart Van Kirk)' Subject: ACCVIO in DECC 6.5 OpenVMS 7.3 < Message-ID: <8843e43.0208140642.353f7293@posting.google.com>  F FYI, the following code produces a segmentation fault in DECC$COMPILER version 6.5:   #include <string.h>  #include <builtins.h>    void foo(char *bar)  { $   __PAL_PROBEW(bar, strlen(bar), 0); }   ? The work around is to not use intrinsic strlen() in the call to A __PAL_PROBEW(), but this begs the question of how to turn off the B 'intrinsic-ness' of the string functions when using builtins!  TheC compiler option, /opt=nointrinsic has no effect in this case.  Also C note that regular functions, variables, and even sizeof work in the $ place of strlen().  What's going on?   Here's the trace dump:   $cc/noopt      foo.c; %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual : address=0000000000000000, PC=000000000016ED74, PS=0000001B/ %TRACE-F-TRACEBACK, symbolic stack dump follows C   image    module    routine             line      rel PC            abs PC+  DECC$COMPILER  CALLGEN  get_pragma_linkage >                                         75522 0000000000001E44 000000000016ED74>  DECC$COMPILER  CALLGEN  gemc_call_gen  75509 0000000000000000 0000000000000000/  DECC$COMPILER  EXPRGEN  generate_il_expression >                                         72711 0000000000000138 0000000000174F082  DECC$COMPILER  BLTIN  generate_code_for_intrinsic>                                         84914 0000000000002E68 00000000001AEB488  DECC$COMPILER  BLTIN  recognize_and_transform_intrinsic>                                         85114 0000000000003190 00000000001AEE706  DECC$COMPILER  BLTIN  interpret_non_prototype_builtin>                                         85884 0000000000004CB4 00000000001B09941  DECC$COMPILER  EXPR  perform_expr_interpretation >                                         55856 0000000000006FA4 00000000000C1A941  DECC$COMPILER  EXPR  interpret_source_expression >                                         57890 000000000000A15C 00000000000C4C4C2  DECC$COMPILER  STMT  interpret_statement_sequence>                                         47341 0000000000002688 00000000000EE7F8-  DECC$COMPILER  STMT  interpret_function_body >                                         49263 000000000000334C 00000000000EF4BC2  DECC$COMPILER  DECL  interpret_source_declaration>                                         48563 0000000000001D14 00000000000B46E4>  DECC$COMPILER  FEMAST  fe_master       45921 0000000000000718 00000000000D0748'  DECC$COMPILER  COMPILE  gemc_be_master >                                         83971 0000000000000BC4 00000000001BE5D4'  DECC$COMPILER  COMPILE  gem_xx_compile >                                         84039 0000000000000000 0000000000000000'  DECC$COMPILER  GEM_CP_VMS  GEM_CP_MAIN >                                          2603 00000000000018CC 00000000006BA1AC>                                             0 FFFFFFFF8024D3F4 FFFFFFFF8024D3F4   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:55:11 -0400 & From: "Ed Vogel" <ed.vogel@compaq.com>+ Subject: Re: ACCVIO in DECC 6.5 OpenVMS 7.3 . Message-ID: <3d5a6f50$1_1@hpb10302.boi.hp.com>  ? "Stewart Van Kirk" <vankirk@decision.quest.gr> wrote in message 6 news:8843e43.0208140642.353f7293@posting.google.com...H | FYI, the following code produces a segmentation fault in DECC$COMPILER | version 6.5: |  | #include <string.h>  | #include <builtins.h>  |  | void foo(char *bar)  | { & |   __PAL_PROBEW(bar, strlen(bar), 0); | }  | D     Yup...still crashes our internal compiler too.  I'll put this on     our bug list.   A | The work around is to not use intrinsic strlen() in the call to C | __PAL_PROBEW(), but this begs the question of how to turn off the D | 'intrinsic-ness' of the string functions when using builtins!  TheE | compiler option, /opt=nointrinsic has no effect in this case.  Also E | note that regular functions, variables, and even sizeof work in the & | place of strlen().  What's going on?  =     string.h will #define strlen to be __STRLEN.  __STRLEN is D     a built-in (an intrinsic that is always recognized).  So, to fix      the problem you need to add:       #undef strlen      #pragma function (strlen)        after the #include's  7     Sorry for the trouble this compiler bug has caused.                        Ed Vogel(                     Compaq C Engineering   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:39:30 GMT 0 From: prune@ZAnkh-Morpork.mv.com (Paul Winalski)+ Subject: Re: ACCVIO in DECC 6.5 OpenVMS 7.3 9 Message-ID: <3d5a8736.2250409217@proxy.news.easynews.com>   E On 14 Aug 2002 07:42:46 -0700, vankirk@decision.quest.gr (Stewart Van  Kirk) wrote:  G >FYI, the following code produces a segmentation fault in DECC$COMPILER 
 >version 6.5:  >  >#include <string.h> >#include <builtins.h> >  >void foo(char *bar) >{% >  __PAL_PROBEW(bar, strlen(bar), 0);  >}  E Of course this code will ACCVIO if bar isn't a valid pointer.  Before > the PROBEW PALcall can be done, the expression strlen(bar) hasD to be evaluated.  strlen() works by reading the string pointed to by@ bar until a NUL character (the end-of-string marker) is reached.? strlen() is going to do a fetch through pointer bar--there's no ? avoiding it, and that fetch will raise an ACCVIO if bar isn't a < readable virtual address.  In your case bar was 0, hence the ACCVIO.   > You're either going to have to pass the expected length of barC to this routine explicitly, or you could implement your own ACCVIO- B proof version of strlen() by walking the string byte-by-byte doing; a PROBEW first, followed by a test whether the character at ( that position is NUL ('\0' in C syntax).  
 ---------- Remove 'Z' to reply by email.    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 12:37:49 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) + Subject: Re: ACCVIO in DECC 6.5 OpenVMS 7.3 3 Message-ID: <MO4F1tTQ7UQ1@eisner.encompasserve.org>   l In article <3d5a8736.2250409217@proxy.news.easynews.com>, prune@ZAnkh-Morpork.mv.com (Paul Winalski) writes:G > On 14 Aug 2002 07:42:46 -0700, vankirk@decision.quest.gr (Stewart Van  > Kirk) wrote: > H >>FYI, the following code produces a segmentation fault in DECC$COMPILER >>version 6.5: >> >>#include <string.h>  >>#include <builtins.h>  >> >>void foo(char *bar)  >>{ & >>  __PAL_PROBEW(bar, strlen(bar), 0); >>}  > G > Of course this code will ACCVIO if bar isn't a valid pointer.  Before @ > the PROBEW PALcall can be done, the expression strlen(bar) hasF > to be evaluated.  strlen() works by reading the string pointed to byB > bar until a NUL character (the end-of-string marker) is reached.  1 But that is no excuse for the compiler to ACCVIO.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:54:09 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> 7 Subject: Re: Cannot start DECwindow after upgade to 7.3 ' Message-ID: <3D5963DE.C2D666EB@Free.fr>   ' (I'm not supposed to write this but...)   H I upgraded from Hobbyist 7.2-1H1 to 7.3 on an Alpha PWS 600au and had no souvenir of any problem.  I Did you change something in the way DW was starting prior to the upgrade?   A Do you have a message like "no graphics device found" or similar?    Do you have any messages?   L To help, you may turn STARTUP verification on with SYSMAN, ask for output in2 sys$system:startup.log and look at the DW entries.   My 2    D.   Kenneth wrote: > J > I have a Alpha workstation 433au running 7.2-1, however after upgrade toK > 7.3, the DECwindows cannot start when the system startup. However after a M > while, about 10 - 15 mins, the console will change to window mode, but only M > the cursor is here and the every other is blank. I have upgrade the console 6 > version to 5.97 which is the latest in firmware 6.0.0 > Does anyone out there has the same experience?   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 02:05:53 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) E Subject: Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha] OpenVMS conversion 3 Message-ID: <vjBXK+VwJElq@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Z In article <3D599755.2322.2CBFC6D@localhost>, "Stanley F. Quayle" <stan@stanq.com> writes:1 > On 13 Aug 2002 at 21:46, Larry Kilgallen wrote: I >> Nope, no prices on that web site either.  CHARON-VAX prices seem to be  >> a real state secret.  > . > SRI prohibits resellers from posting prices.  K Thanks for the confirmation that there _is_ a conspiracy in this regard :-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:56:15 -0400 * From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <stan@stanq.com>E Subject: Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha] OpenVMS conversion - Message-ID: <3D5A293F.2308.505F8E2@localhost>   . On 14 Aug 2002 at 2:05, Larry Kilgallen wrote:B > Thanks for the confirmation that there _is_ a conspiracy in this > regard :-)  D A conspiracy requires more than one person.  SRI, as the owner, has 0 total control over how its product is presented.  
 --Stan Quayle ! President, Quayle Consulting Inc.   
 ----------C Stanley F. Quayle, P.E.   N8SQ   +1 614-868-1363   Fax: +1 614 868-  16711 8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147 = Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com       http://www.stanq.com    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 08:31:38 -0700, From: colive@technologEase.com (Chris Olive)E Subject: Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha] OpenVMS conversion = Message-ID: <b10654c6.0208140731.15c58304@posting.google.com>   h Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message news:<vjBXK+VwJElq@eisner.encompasserve.org>...\ > In article <3D599755.2322.2CBFC6D@localhost>, "Stanley F. Quayle" <stan@stanq.com> writes:3 > > On 13 Aug 2002 at 21:46, Larry Kilgallen wrote: K > >> Nope, no prices on that web site either.  CHARON-VAX prices seem to be  > >> a real state secret.  > > 0 > > SRI prohibits resellers from posting prices. > M > Thanks for the confirmation that there _is_ a conspiracy in this regard :-)   D Definitely a big turn-off for sure, if not a conspiracy.  Given thisA rare opportunity to perhaps provide some valuable feedback to all A those of the world in Stan's position, I felt I couldn't resist.   So...   E GENERALLY SPEAKING, depending on what I'm looking for, if I DON'T see B a price nearly right away in my investigation of ANYTHING (whetherB shopping online or in a real store), I GO LOOKING ELSEWHERE nearly IMMEDIATELY.  D Two factors weigh into this (and I would suspect this holds true for? many readers here): (1) I'm generally self-sufficent esp. as itOD relates to technological phemonena.  I don't care to have the littleC high school sales boy at Best Buy try and explain things to me, foroE instance.  (2) Time being scarce, and having more on my plate both at D work and at home than I have time to do, I don't care to engage in aC sales speal with someone, even for 10 minutes.  Give me the product:F specs and give me the price, and that's all I'm looking for.  Period. C (Why do I have to go through your 30 minute sales pitch to find outp? the price?)  All these web and newspaper ads that say "Call for1F pricing" translates into "Go look somewhere else" to people like me...  F Esp. in Web land, Stan.  You gotta realize searching somewhere else isE just too easy to do online, so WHY NOT???  When I don't see any price D on the Charon-VAX site (which I have noticed as well), it's just wayC too easy to go looking on eBay for a REAL Alphastation for probablyp- less than your emulator costs.  Case closed.*e  F Another factor in the VMS/quasi-VMS world has to do with price.  StuffE is still way too over-priced, esp. in the quasi-VMS world of things. AF Another example outside of Charon-VAX is the Accelr8 DCL Lite product.C  WAY over priced.  I can buy a whole used machine for that price...2- Yeah, it's "cool."  But it's not "$500 cool."e  F Anyway, for all you guys trying to sell to technical types, ESP. those& that tend to be on the high end of theE power-user/technically-self-sufficent curve, my take is that you needf3 to reevaluate your marketing/sales approach...  8-)f   Chris  -----e Chris Olivei colive(at)technologEase(dot)com   F (*) I can't help but wonder if you didn't take the Borland approach toF your Charon-VAX emulator that you wouldn't make your profit in VOLUME?B  Try pricing it at $99 a pop and see if every VMS ethusiast in theB world wouldn't suddenly be running it on a spare Pentium III...  I' wonder?  Same for Accelr8's DCL Lite...e   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:54:09 -0400i* From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <stan@stanq.com>E Subject: Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha] OpenVMS conversioni. Message-ID: <3D5A44E1.22982.571E7DD@localhost>  * On 14 Aug 2002 at 8:31, Chris Olive wrote:F > Definitely a big turn-off for sure, if not a conspiracy.  Given thisC > rare opportunity to perhaps provide some valuable feedback to all2H > those of the world in Stan's position, I felt I couldn't resist. So...  F You're preaching to the choir -- I had a shopping site up and working  until fairly recently.  ? However, once you buy a copy of CHARON-VAX, it's still a steep eE learning curve to get the first system migrated.  Now that I've done  . it dozens of times, it takes me an hour or so.  C Having you contact me directly allows me to sell you an hour of my tC time, which will save you weeks of messing around by yourself.  It iC also allows an opportunity to find out which version might be best iA (since there are now 7 different versions, with more on the way).o  > As for buying a "real" AlphaServer, go for it.  CHARON-VAX is ? available to run on Alpha, for those people who don't want the   Windows version.  
 --Stan Quayle ! President, Quayle Consulting Inc.e  
 ----------C Stanley F. Quayle, P.E.   N8SQ   +1 614-868-1363   Fax: +1 614 868-o 16711 8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147e= Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com       http://www.stanq.comu   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:19:51 -0700-( From: Alan Frisbie <Abuse@NelsonUSA.com>E Subject: Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha] OpenVMS conversionu- Message-ID: <3D5A9137.D6456297@NelsonUSA.com>.   Chris Olive wrote:  G > GENERALLY SPEAKING, depending on what I'm looking for, if I DON'T seeaD > a price nearly right away in my investigation of ANYTHING (whetherD > shopping online or in a real store), I GO LOOKING ELSEWHERE nearly > IMMEDIATELY.  @ The same for me!   If I do not see a price posted, I assume thatC the seller is like a used car dealer, adjusting the price upward tohB what he thinks he can get away with at the moment.   I will not do# business with those kind of people.    Do you hear that, HP?d   Alan   -- 2* -- Alan Frisbie        Abuse@NelsonUSA.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:42:58 -0400q* From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <stan@stanq.com>E Subject: Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha] OpenVMS conversione. Message-ID: <3D5A5E62.32004.5D588BE@localhost>  , On 14 Aug 2002 at 10:19, Alan Frisbie wrote:B > The same for me!   If I do not see a price posted, I assume thatE > the seller is like a used car dealer, adjusting the price upward touD > what he thinks he can get away with at the moment.   I will not do% > business with those kind of people.n >  > Do you hear that, HP?c   It's not HP, it's SRI.  
 --Stan Quaylem! President, Quayle Consulting Inc.a  
 ----------C Stanley F. Quayle, P.E.   N8SQ   +1 614-868-1363   Fax: +1 614 868-  16711 8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147-= Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com       http://www.stanq.comr   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 21:48:24 +0200?- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> ' Subject: Re: CSWB 1.0 still not updated ' Message-ID: <3D596286.8F3B918C@Free.fr>    Ah?  1.1b for beta?) It's not "our" way of coding releases :-) < (I have build 2002072308, which works perfectly well, merci)   D.   Colin Blake wrote: > G > The next version of CSWB will contain the fix (and before you ask, it F > hasn't been decided yet if the next version of CSWB will be based on > Mozilla 1.1 or Mozilla 1.2). > J > And by the way, Mozilla 1.1 hasn't been released yet. Its still in beta.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:23:41 GMTS. From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter LANGSTOEGER)' Subject: Re: CSWB 1.0 still not updated45 Message-ID: <Ncq69.162987$cU1.5210182@news.chello.at>d  W In article <3D596286.8F3B918C@Free.fr>, Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> writes:c >Ah? >1.1b for beta?o  ; No. B1.1 for the 2nd beta of V1.1. A1.1 was the first beta.    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERn% Network and OpenVMS system specialist_ E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atP A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm looking for (a) Network _and_ VMS Job(s)   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:23:02 +0100a From: "Paul Martin" <me@me.com>c Subject: CSWS & PHP # Message-ID: <3d5a706c@194.70.94.92>r   Hi, B Does anyone know if its possible to add php modules into the CSWS?  I know it can be done on apache.( Im interested in adding the XSL modules.   Thanks Paul   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 18:23:02 +0300w From: "Paul Martin" <me@me.com>  Subject: CSWS & PHPrQ Message-ID: <1037270357C4D411A1C900A0C9D4BFCB9501FE@hqnts40div01.academy.kiev.ua>    Hi, B Does anyone know if its possible to add php modules into the CSWS?  I know it can be done on apache.( Im interested in adding the XSL modules.   Thanks Paul       begin 600 Org_Mail_Info.txt = M#0H-"BTM+2TM4V-A;DUA:6PZ($]R:6=I;F%L($UE<W-A9V4@26YF;W)M871I0= M;VXM+2TM+0T*1G)O;3H@4&%U;"!-87)T:6X-"E-E;G0Z(#`X+S$T+S(P,#(@s= M,3DZ-#(Z-#8-"E1O.B`-"E-U8FIE8W0Z($-35U,@)B!02%`-"@T*+2TM+2U3E= M8V%N36%I;#H@4F]U=&EN9R!$;VUA:6X@26YF;W)M871I;VX@9F]R(%--5%`@s= M;6%I;"TM+2TM#0I0871H.B!C87)R:65R+FMI978N=6$A;F5W<RYK:65V+G-O0= M=F%M+F-O;2%3=FET;VYL:6YE+D-/32%N97=S9F5E9"YG86UM82YR=2%'86UMr= M82Y252%N97=S+FUA:6QG871E+F]R9R%N97=S9F5E9"YS='5E8F5R;"YD92%K = M:6)O+FYE=W,N9&5M;VXN;F5T(6YE=W,N9&5M;VXN8V\N=6LA9&5M;VXA9G1PR= M+F1A8G,N8V]M(3$Y-"XW,"XY-"XY,B$Q,"XR,#`N-"XS,0T*1G)O;3H@(E!A = M=6P@36%R=&EN(B`\;65`;64N8V]M/@T*3F5W<V=R;W5P<SH@8V]M<"YO<RYVR= M;7,-"E-U8FIE8W0Z($-35U,@)B!02%`-"D1A=&4Z(%=E9"P@,30@075G(#(P = M,#(@,38Z,C,Z,#(@*S`Q,#`-"DUE<W-A9V4M240Z(#PS9#5A-S`V8T`Q.30NO= M-S`N.30N.3(^#0I.3E10+5!O<W1I;F<M2&]S=#H@9G1P+F1A8G,N8V]M#0I8 = M+4Y.5%`M4&]S=&EN9RU(;W-T.B!F='`N9&%B<RYC;VTZ,3DT+C<P+CDT+C$TD= M#0I8+51R86-E.B!N97=S+F1E;6]N+F-O+G5K(#$P,CDS,S@U.30@;FYR<"TQ = M-#HR,30W-R!.3RU)1$5.5"!F='`N9&%B<RYC;VTZ,3DT+C<P+CDT+C$T#0I8 = M+4-O;7!L86EN=',M5&\Z(&%B=7-E0&1E;6]N+FYE=`T*6"U0<FEO<FET>3H@ = M,PT*6"U-4TUA:6PM4')I;W)I='DZ($YO<FUA;`T*6"U.97=S<F5A9&5R.B!-B= M:6-R;W-O9G0@3W5T;&]O:R!%>'!R97-S(#8N,#`N,C8P,"XP,#`P#0I8+4UI0= M;65/3$4Z(%!R;V1U8V5D($)Y($UI8W)O<V]F="!-:6UE3TQ%(%8V+C`P+C(V = M,#`N,#`P,`T*6"U/<FEG:6YA;"U.3E10+5!O<W1I;F<M2&]S=#H@,3`N,C`P4= M+C0N,S$-"DQI;F5S.B`Y#0I8<F5F.B!C87)R:65R+FMI978N=6$@8V]M<"YO  1<RYV;7,Z-#$T,SD-"@T*#0H=  `  end    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:10:05 +0200P9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>0 Subject: Re: CSWS & PHP1' Message-ID: <3D5A8EED.21598ECE@aaa.com>    RTFW :-)  8 See the "Compaq Secure Web Server for OpenVMS" page at :E "http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/apache/csws.html"g   For specific PHP info, check :Q "http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/products/ips/apache/csws_php_relnotes.pdf"a     Jan-Erik Sderholm.i   Paul Martin wrote: >  > Hi, D > Does anyone know if its possible to add php modules into the CSWS?" > I know it can be done on apache.* > Im interested in adding the XSL modules. >  > Thanks > Paul   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:09:40 -0400B* From: Brian Hechinger <wonko@4amlunch.net> Subject: Re: DCL questionl8 Message-ID: <20020814130940.M389784@marvin.4amlunch.net>  : On Tue, Aug 13, 2002 at 06:19:34PM +0000, Don Sykes wrote: > P > DCL open/read/write is intended primarily for record oriented devices. But theM > problem really is the device driver you assign (implicitly) when you open apQ > channel to the telnet device. The driver has no problem sending bytes, but doesrQ > not know when a record read is completed. As has been suggested you could try a P > read/time=1 or the like, but I think it will not be a satisfactory method evenP > if you make it work. IMO you need to use a language that gives access to QIOs.  5 crapulance.  i REALLY wanted to do this in DCL.  bah.    thanks for the info!!    -brian -- h she manipulates my language			|a) the scion of a cunning goddess			| Fridge   and i *am* but a MAN				| Magnet) watching my gratuitous torment			| Poetrye not looking herculean				|   ------------------------------   Date: 14 Aug 2002 13:59:30 GMT, From: bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) Subject: DELNI & DEMPR6 Message-ID: <ajdno1$1ankes$1@ID-135708.news.dfncis.de>  E Do we have any purist hobbyist here who can use a DELNI and a DEMPR??wI I've got a pair of DELNI and one DEMPR that I really don't need (although K the thought of hooking all my PDP's and VAXen to the DELNI sounds cute. :-) F If you pay the postage, I can probably mail them as they aren't reallyE that heavy.  I think I even have one or two of the plastic cases they  go in when not rack mounted.  	 Anybody??    bill   -- lJ Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 23:47:14 +1000 0 From: "Alan Hutchison" <ahutch0@optusnet.com.au> Subject: Re: DS10 shutting downx< Message-ID: <3d5a5f62$0$28863$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>   Carl,r  D I understand that there is a problem with the on/off switch becoming
 intermittent.h  F We've had four or five out of a couple of hundred go bad at our place.4 As someone else said, it could be the psu of course.   Alan.-  4 "Carl Perkins" <carl@gerg.tamu.edu> wrote in message' news:11JUL200223255925@gerg.tamu.edu...:/ > }> Kevin Handy <kth@srv.net> wrote in message   news:<3D2C557B.10904@srv.net>...D > }>>I have a customer with an Alpha DS10 that keeps powering itself@ > }>>down (at least once a day).  Nothing on the screen (DS10 is6 > }>>powered down). I know that if a fan stops, it can9 > }>>do this, but the fans on this box all seem to be OK.s > }>>tB > }>>Is there anything besides fans that can cause one of these toB > }>>power itself off, and is there any place I can look that willA > }>>tell me why it has done this, like a show command at the >>>  > }>>prompt? > }>>n@ > }>>System seems to be clean (no dust bunnies inside the case),: > }>>it's not in a very hot room, it's plugged into a UPS,9 > }>>UPS seems to be Ok, Windows PC's at the site are not  > }>>crashing. >oE > Have you made certain that someone isn't pressing the halt or powertI > button? That gives you instant system death. They are both conveniently4, > located on the front of the box on a DS10. >FG > "User stupidity" is not unheard of. Neither is "deliberate sabotage".gG > For that matter, neither is "the cleaning person unplugged it to plug. > in the vacuum cleaner".b >tI > You might check to see if the last timestamps recorded before each boot G > indicate hatls at about the same time of the day, and check to see ife& > it happens on weekends and holidays. >c
 > --- Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:08:24 -0400R1 From: "Farrell, Michael" <MFarrell@voltdelta.com>  Subject: RE: DS10 shutting downtO Message-ID: <025766C9BBC5D511A4ED00B0D0F08C23163681@ny_exchange1.maintech1.com>i  + Has anyone had this problem with the DS-10?o  J Ours runs at 91 degrees Fahrenheit.  We've had the motherboard changed andK been told by Field Service it is not the power supply.  Noone seems to havel any good ideas.   L Is the "f$getsyi("temperature_vector")"  call valid on this machine as it is on the ES40?   TIAs   Mike Farrell   > -----Original Message-----5 > From:	Alan Hutchison [SMTP:ahutch0@optusnet.com.au] * > Sent:	Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:47 AM > To:	Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Coml! > Subject:	Re: DS10 shutting downw >  > Carl,  > F > I understand that there is a problem with the on/off switch becoming > intermittent.t > H > We've had four or five out of a couple of hundred go bad at our place.6 > As someone else said, it could be the psu of course. >  > Alan.n > 6 > "Carl Perkins" <carl@gerg.tamu.edu> wrote in message) > news:11JUL200223255925@gerg.tamu.edu...r1 > > }> Kevin Handy <kth@srv.net> wrote in messager" > news:<3D2C557B.10904@srv.net>...F > > }>>I have a customer with an Alpha DS10 that keeps powering itselfB > > }>>down (at least once a day).  Nothing on the screen (DS10 is8 > > }>>powered down). I know that if a fan stops, it can; > > }>>do this, but the fans on this box all seem to be OK.l > > }>> D > > }>>Is there anything besides fans that can cause one of these toD > > }>>power itself off, and is there any place I can look that willC > > }>>tell me why it has done this, like a show command at the >>>a > > }>>prompt? > > }>>oB > > }>>System seems to be clean (no dust bunnies inside the case),< > > }>>it's not in a very hot room, it's plugged into a UPS,; > > }>>UPS seems to be Ok, Windows PC's at the site are noti > > }>>crashing. > > G > > Have you made certain that someone isn't pressing the halt or power-K > > button? That gives you instant system death. They are both convenientlyn. > > located on the front of the box on a DS10. > >wI > > "User stupidity" is not unheard of. Neither is "deliberate sabotage".7I > > For that matter, neither is "the cleaning person unplugged it to plug  > > in the vacuum cleaner".V > >@K > > You might check to see if the last timestamps recorded before each boot I > > indicate hatls at about the same time of the day, and check to see ifL( > > it happens on weekends and holidays. > >  > > --- Carl >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:05:32 -0500R4 From: "Lucas, Edward A (SAIC)" <Edward.Lucas@bp.com> Subject: EMAIL I had sentt? Message-ID: <EF1DC894691AD5118AF000508BB85FDE034CC7B5@AMCLVX11>t   Helloo  J I July 15, 2002 I sent an email "VMS Commitment" requesting information to/ info-net.  The email has now aperies in Google.d. I have gotten in lots of trouble of the email.  & 1.  I need to have the email removed !J 2.  I was under the impression and the documentation states "INFO-VAX is aB mailing list which is biderectionally gatewayed to the comp.os.vmsJ newsgroup.  This means that postings to comp.os.vms get automatically sentB to INFO-VAX subscribers and messages sent to the INFO-VAX list areL automatically posted to comp.os.vms" This is wrong if we are also sending to? GOOGLE.  Since when is GOOGLE part of the OpenVMS users group. u   Please contact me ASAP.    Edward A. Lucas   Sr. VAX/VMS System Administrator SAIC Phone:  (216) 525-7492 Email:   Lucaea@bp.com   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 12:21:58 -0600+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)p Subject: Re: EMAIL I had sentt3 Message-ID: <yv8IOAJ9Lt7h@eisner.encompasserve.org>t  v In article <EF1DC894691AD5118AF000508BB85FDE034CC7B5@AMCLVX11>, "Lucas, Edward A (SAIC)" <Edward.Lucas@bp.com> writes: > Helloa > L > I July 15, 2002 I sent an email "VMS Commitment" requesting information to1 > info-net.  The email has now aperies in Google. 0 > I have gotten in lots of trouble of the email. > ( > 1.  I need to have the email removed !L > 2.  I was under the impression and the documentation states "INFO-VAX is aD > mailing list which is biderectionally gatewayed to the comp.os.vmsL > newsgroup.  This means that postings to comp.os.vms get automatically sentD > to INFO-VAX subscribers and messages sent to the INFO-VAX list areN > automatically posted to comp.os.vms" This is wrong if we are also sending toA > GOOGLE.  Since when is GOOGLE part of the OpenVMS users group. i >  > Please contact me ASAP.  >    Ed,5  C 	Very bad news here. ..  comp.os.vms is a Usenet newsgroup.  UsenetsF 	has been around a long time - predating WWW stuff and what not.  BackD 	in the day, everything was text.  That is why people complain when	C 	Billyware sends MIME.  As for Google... Google bought www.deja.com F 	Deja News was an original Usenet archival WWW site.  Back in the day,> 	Altavista was king and we used to search Altavista for UsenetA 	history.  So the bad news is your post is now part of history ina 	several search engines.  F 	Rule of thumb:  Don't write something here (with your name attached) E 	you can't defend or your Mommy or Grandmother (or Boss) wouldn't be -  	too embarassed if they read it.   				Rob4   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:26:17 +0100 (MET)w9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>3 Subject: Re: EMAIL I had sent>; Message-ID: <01KLAS18LP1S970ARJ@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>a  L > I July 15, 2002 I sent an email "VMS Commitment" requesting information to
 > info-net.      Do you mean Info-VAX?   & > The email has now aperies in Google.0 > I have gotten in lots of trouble of the email. > ( > 1.  I need to have the email removed !L > 2.  I was under the impression and the documentation states "INFO-VAX is aD > mailing list which is biderectionally gatewayed to the comp.os.vmsL > newsgroup.  This means that postings to comp.os.vms get automatically sentD > to INFO-VAX subscribers and messages sent to the INFO-VAX list areN > automatically posted to comp.os.vms" This is wrong if we are also sending toA > GOOGLE.  Since when is GOOGLE part of the OpenVMS users group. n  C Right.  What goes to Info-VAX goes to comp.os.vms and vice-versa.  rI Comp.os.vms is a newsgroup.  That means that the articles are visible on oG NNTP servers all over the world, for as long as the servers retain the nI articles.  There are other sites which archive this information, so that l3 articles remain available essentially indefinitely.   I I don't know how InfoVAX actually works.  Presumably, the email messages  B are posted to a news server somewhere.  If this is the case, then G whoever is responsible for this could conceivably issue a cancellation bA message.  However, this assumes that his news server honours the hF cancellation, as well as other servers which still have the article.  C You probably can't rely on this.  Also, I doubt that archive sites oH honour cancellation messages, since the point is to add some permanence E to a rapidly-changing internet world.  (Of course, cancellations are K< something different and SHOULD be honoured by all involved.)  F No one is "sending to GOOGLE" and GOOGLE is not a part of the OpenVMS E users group.  GOOGLE is essentially a web interface to a news server.w  C I don't know what kind of trouble you got into.  However, would it  I really make things better to get rid of the message, now that the damage l has been done?   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:26:53 +0200m9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>- Subject: Re: EMAIL I had sentO' Message-ID: <3D5A92DD.D3A94E6F@aaa.com>.  / Ah, I remember that post. Raised my eyebrows...,  7 Is supose no-one is realy "sending" anything to Google.a9 Possibly Google is just "listening" to Usenet, and savinga8 anything it sees. Since it's free to read c.o.v, I can't3 see how we could stop Google reading c.o.v as well.   @ (Now, having re-read your post, I *do* understand your problem.)   Jan-Erik Sderholm.R   "Lucas, Edward A (SAIC)" wrote:a >  > Hellog > L > I July 15, 2002 I sent an email "VMS Commitment" requesting information to1 > info-net.  The email has now aperies in Google.t0 > I have gotten in lots of trouble of the email. >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:39:05 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@mmaz.com>i Subject: Re: EMAIL I had sentj' Message-ID: <3D5A95B9.9030805@MMaz.com>s   Lucas, Edward A (SAIC) wrote:r   >Hello >.K >I July 15, 2002 I sent an email "VMS Commitment" requesting information to70 >info-net.  The email has now aperies in Google./ >I have gotten in lots of trouble of the email.B >l' >1.  I need to have the email removed ! K >2.  I was under the impression and the documentation states "INFO-VAX is aoC >mailing list which is biderectionally gatewayed to the comp.os.vmsbK >newsgroup.  This means that postings to comp.os.vms get automatically senteC >to INFO-VAX subscribers and messages sent to the INFO-VAX list areAM >automatically posted to comp.os.vms" This is wrong if we are also sending to$@ >GOOGLE.  Since when is GOOGLE part of the OpenVMS users group.  >    >iF Google owns the old Deja News system which cataloged news groups into G web accessible archives...  Therefore, anything that means it into the e+ news groups will be accessible by Google...y  K As for removing your address from the news archives, you are out of luck...    Barryo   -- o  @ Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO   A E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028m   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 19:41:04 +0100 (MET)n9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>  Subject: Re: EMAIL I had sent ; Message-ID: <01KLASHLQBKM970ARJ@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>-  1 > Ah, I remember that post. Raised my eyebrows...2 > 9 > Is supose no-one is realy "sending" anything to Google.W; > Possibly Google is just "listening" to Usenet, and saving@: > anything it sees. Since it's free to read c.o.v, I can't5 > see how we could stop Google reading c.o.v as well.i > B > (Now, having re-read your post, I *do* understand your problem.)  E I'm sure several folks have just searched GOOGLE for posts from this (, guy.  Yes, I can see where he has a problem.  B On the other hand, presumably someone pointed him to the relevant H information before the dingle berries noticed what was going on.  Would 4 be interesting to know if it helped, at least a bit.   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 12:53:30 -0600 From: briggs@encompasserve.org Subject: Re: EMAIL I had sentQ3 Message-ID: <LYb9DXrMfn8I@eisner.encompasserve.org>=  v In article <EF1DC894691AD5118AF000508BB85FDE034CC7B5@AMCLVX11>, "Lucas, Edward A (SAIC)" <Edward.Lucas@bp.com> writes:L > I July 15, 2002 I sent an email "VMS Commitment" requesting information to1 > info-net.  The email has now aperies in Google.,0 > I have gotten in lots of trouble of the email.  F Nothing like advertising the fact of existence of a troublesome e-mail  to guarantee that it is noticed. > ( > 1.  I need to have the email removed !  1 http://groups.google.com/googlegroups/help.html#90  # Items 11 and 12 seem to apply here.<  L > 2.  I was under the impression and the documentation states "INFO-VAX is aD > mailing list which is biderectionally gatewayed to the comp.os.vmsL > newsgroup.  This means that postings to comp.os.vms get automatically sentD > to INFO-VAX subscribers and messages sent to the INFO-VAX list areN > automatically posted to comp.os.vms" This is wrong if we are also sending toA > GOOGLE.  Since when is GOOGLE part of the OpenVMS users group. -  @ Since Google has a news archive and comp.os.vms is a news group.  G The classic Usenet archive was DejaNews until Google took over.  From aWD certain point of view, groups.google.com is just an open access news. server with an extremely long retention cycle.  C Your article is "sent" to Google in the same way that it is sent totA every other news server on the net: store and forward, flood fillc5 with loop avoidance and duplicate delivery detection.   C Store and forward:  News server picks up the message and retains itn for forwarding  @ Flood fill:  It forwards the message to all neighboring servers.  G Loop avoidance:  Except for those already appearing in the Path: header   D Duplicate delivery detection:  Messages are identified by a globally? unique message-id and duplicate deliveries are either discardedqD (UUCP style stream feed) or not solicited (IHAVE/SENDME style feed).   	John Briggs   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:32:19 +0100t( From: Mr Beermat <beermat.geo@yahoo.com>" Subject: Re: FTP 'net to PC to VMS8 Message-ID: <p8ckluckbsj68pbpu4hpbjdj0pt6tfo272@4ax.com>   thanks people,? setting the LRL to 9216 on the 5 savesets (.a to .e) cured this " instance of FTP 'net -> PC -> VAX.F (curiously, the 5 saveset files inside the zip which I unzipped on the VAX had the wrong record size)   greg   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:34:47 +0200g9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>t" Subject: Re: FTP 'net to PC to VMS' Message-ID: <3D5A3247.8435B650@aaa.com>   9 They could have been moved un-ziped to, e.g., some PC and 6 then zipped there. Of course the file attribs was then9 already corrupted. The unzip on VMS can't do much then...-   Jan-Erik Sderholm.    Mr Beermat wrote:3 >  > thanks people,A > setting the LRL to 9216 on the 5 savesets (.a to .e) cured this-$ > instance of FTP 'net -> PC -> VAX.H > (curiously, the 5 saveset files inside the zip which I unzipped on the  > VAX had the wrong record size) >  > greg   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 07:44:19 +0100 ( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>< Subject: Re: Graphics adaptor (VCB02) for MicroVAX machines.( Message-ID: <3D59FC43.EADA846@127.0.0.1>   Hoff Hoffman wrote:t > H >   The VCB02 (also known as the GPX and the "dragon") controller is theF >   usual controller for the Q-bus series, while the VCB01 (also knownJ >   as the QVSS) controller was used on the earlier members of the series. > H >   Support for VCB01 was not available on the later of the Q-bus seriesJ >   processors, starting circa KA650, and with VAXstation 3200, VAXstationH >   3500, and later systems.   The VCB01 is thus only typically found onL >   the VAXstation I series and on the monochrome variants in the VAXstation >   II series. > I >   AFAIK, most of the VAX 4000 series could also operate with the VCB02,mL >   though the faster systems required the VCB02 was up to current revision.K >   Starting around the KA650 series, you had to have your VCB02 at current G >   rev, lest you see various odd bus lock-ups.  (The faster processorsrG >   could easily push the Q-bus faster than the earlier VCB02 revisionsD >   had expected.)  H This has been mentioned before, but how do you get a board up to current' revision if you have earlier revisions?   F (I am interested because I have a plan to put a VCB02 board set into aG 4000 series system, but the boards are Rev. E1 main 'connection' M7169, F Rev F1 additional (memory) boards M7168. If it is a case of installingC additional components, or replacing, or cutting tracks, I've enoughtA expertise to perform this and willing to accept associated risk).p   --  ? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences  nclews at csc dot comn   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:12:00 +0100s% From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>n< Subject: Re: Graphics adaptor (VCB02) for MicroVAX machines.8 Message-ID: <ir3klu4mit64it095arin7cr0dj5im067i@4ax.com>  2 On Tue, 13 Aug 2002 15:47:17 -0400, Atlant Schmidt$ <atlantnospam@mindspring.com> wrote:   >p >subsystems... >r4 >And the terminals-derived devices such as the VT55,4 >VT105, VT125, and what was the name of the original >little ReGIS+BASIC box?  E The "Gigi" - VK200 or something like that wasn't it? I recall writingfB a load/save interface to it for TOPS-20 plus some "Ghost" graphics interface routines.    >Atlants >    -- Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:53:58 +01001+ From: "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org>i< Subject: Re: Graphics adaptor (VCB02) for MicroVAX machines.& Message-ID: <3D5A7D16.9040401@iee.org>   Alan Greig wrote:e    gG > The "Gigi" - VK200 or something like that wasn't it? I recall writingsD > a load/save interface to it for TOPS-20 plus some "Ghost" graphics > interface routines.r    - It was indeed the GIGI, but it was the VK100.v   Antoniod       --     ---------------e- Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.org    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:57:45 +0100-+ From: "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org>s< Subject: Re: Graphics adaptor (VCB02) for MicroVAX machines.& Message-ID: <3D5A7DF9.5080308@iee.org>   sword7@speakeasy.org wrote:l  E > Ok, thank you for info.  I will use VCB02 for my emulator.   I knowoM > about VCB01 and VCB02.  I never heard of VCB03 before.  What is difference   > between VCB02 and VCB03?    A You have tech docs for the VCB02 and you probably never will for C
 the VCB03 :-)a  > Seriously though, there are VCB01 docs in one or other of the A VAXstation II manuals on the net. It's a few pages in an appendix = somewhere. If you have a spare midnight and want to add VCB01 ? support, let me know and I'll find out exactly which manual, ton+ save you having to overstress the internet!   ? I had a quick look for VCB03 stuff and found nothing. You wouldh@ probably have to add KA60 support (it's basically two CVAX chipsA in SMP but there's bound to be more than just that needed) before  you could do much with it.  @ OpenVMS supports the MicroVAX 3520/3540 but I don't know if much2 else does (Ultrix might, NetBSD probably doesn't).   Antonioo     -- S   ---------------l- Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.orgi   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:49:58 -0700e( From: Alan Frisbie <Abuse@NelsonUSA.com>< Subject: Re: Graphics adaptor (VCB02) for MicroVAX machines.- Message-ID: <3D5A8A36.997BFBED@NelsonUSA.com>h   Nic Clews wrote:  J > This has been mentioned before, but how do you get a board up to current) > revision if you have earlier revisions?   H > (I am interested because I have a plan to put a VCB02 board set into aI > 4000 series system, but the boards are Rev. E1 main 'connection' M7169,eH > Rev F1 additional (memory) boards M7168. If it is a case of installingE > additional components, or replacing, or cutting tracks, I've enoughnC > expertise to perform this and willing to accept associated risk).   C I would also like to install a VCB02 in a VAX 4000/200 system, so I0E would appreciate it very much if someone would post this information.>   Thanks,E Alan  + -- Alan Frisbie         Abuse@NelsonUSA.com5   ------------------------------   Date: 14 Aug 2002 16:15:07 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)Y Subject: Re: Graphics adaptor (VCB03) for VAXstation? (was: Graphics adaptor (VCB02) for i* Message-ID: <ajdvmb$hng$1@web1.cup.hp.com>  L In article <uljeb5f9tfef9d@corp.supernews.com>, sword7@speakeasy.org writes:C :In comp.os.vms Hoff Hoffman <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote:sG :>   I would target the VCB02, and not the VCB01.  I would only target oE :>   the VCB03 if you plan on providing a fully-capable SMP emulator.a :aD :Ok, thank you for info.  I will use VCB02 for my emulator.   I knowL :about VCB01 and VCB02.  I never heard of VCB03 before.  What is difference  :between VCB02 and VCB03?u  E   The VCB03 is the graphics controller that was built for the FirefoxiF   series M-Bus.  VCB03 is capable of 1280 by 1024 at 66 Hz resolution,C   and provided 3D hardware acceleration and (when fully configured)c   24-bit true color.  C   The Firefox M-bus was the main I/O bus on the VAXstation 3520 and<D   VAXstation 3540 series SMP systems, though the systems did have anE   optional (and support-restricted) Q-bus expansion option available.   B   Firefox was based on the CVAX series VAX microprocessor, and wasC   available in two configurations; as a two-processor (3520) and aso"   a four-processor (3540) version.    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 06:46:58 -0700. From: SPAMSINK2001@YAHOO.COM (Alan E. Feldman)- Subject: Re: Help - TPU Global_search_replacec= Message-ID: <343f30ae.0208140546.2c0436b4@posting.google.com>s  k "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca> wrote in message news:<ajbap2$19m12g$1@ID-141708.news.dfncis.de>...i= > "Alan E. Feldman" <SPAMSINK2001@YAHOO.COM> wrote in messagee9 > news:343f30ae.0208080811.2e367b88@posting.google.com...w [...].G > > Wrong!! Sometimes TPU is slower and incorrect!!! See example at thea > > end. > >... > N > Sorry, your example shows that EVE is sometimes slower and incorrect (if the9 > person who wrote the EVE code does not understand EVE).     @ Yep, I didn't understand that in EVE, GLOBAL doesn't really mean GLOBAL. See below.    M > The reason you get the message "feature needs a terminal" is because EVE isdL > trying to ask the question "Found in reverse direction. Go there [Y]?" YouI > can test this by using the command "EDIT/TPU HUH.LIS /INIT=5" (drop thecN > "/NODISPLAY") and seeing what happens. Since you were running the command inI > a .COM and did not assign SYS$COMMAND the default "Y" was taken and youq  > replaced the previous strings.    E Now hold on just a minute here please. I want to do a global replace. @ So let's say I run the "global replace" command interactively byB pressing the Do key and I type in "global replace in bin". It says  $     Replacing all occurrences of: in  % OK. But then when it's done it says: e  E     Found in reverse direction (may have already replaced).  Go thereo [N]?  F Why the hell does it do that? I'm doing a GLOBAL replace. Just replaceC all occurrences of the old string with the new and be done with it!o4 Why would I *ever* want to start this infinite loop?    L > The reason some of the substitutions were missed was because EVE asked theL > question "Found in reverse direction (may have already replaced). Go thereN > [N]?" Since you were running the command in a .COM the default "N" was taken< > and some changes that should have happened did not happen. > M > To correct the missed substitutions reset your position to the start of theiH > buffer before every replace. If you want to continue to program in EVE    E I'M DOING A FRICKIN' ***GLOBAL*** REPLACE! Why the hell should I havetF to go to the beginning of the buffer before each one? GLOBAL means THE" WHOLE FRICKIN' BUFFER!!! Sheeeesh.     EDT does it right.    M > rather than program in TPU then you will continue to get the "feature needs.G > a terminal" warning since you may get the "may have already replaced"  > message from time to time.    * Which it shouldn't do in the first place.      [...]a  N > Like Kenneth said, program in TPU rather than in EVE and you can avoid theseH > problems. This will also let you avoid the "abc-xyz, Abc-Xyz, aBc-xYz"M > problem that someone thought was a good idea. I do not recall if there is an     Cool.a    L > way in EVE to turn that off and I don't have the time to search for it nowH > but if I get a few seconds and I remember then I'll take a look later.     Thanks.      Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman-. afeldmanNonospam gfigroupNonospam comNnonospam   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:39:52 -0400L- From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca>a- Subject: Re: Help - TPU Global_search_replacey6 Message-ID: <ajdtkg$196adg$1@ID-141708.news.dfncis.de>  ; "Alan E. Feldman" <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote in messagea7 news:b096a4ee.0208131429.3c3e5281@posting.google.com.... >...L > > The reason you get the message "feature needs a terminal" is because EVE isJ > > trying to ask the question "Found in reverse direction. Go there [Y]?" YoudK > > can test this by using the command "EDIT/TPU HUH.LIS /INIT=5" (drop theVE > > "/NODISPLAY") and seeing what happens. Since you were running thew
 command inK > > a .COM and did not assign SYS$COMMAND the default "Y" was taken and you-" > > replaced the previous strings. >  >2, > I don't have to worry about this with EDT.  8 And you don't have to worry about this if you use TPU :)   >...H > Some of my test cases worked fine without any need to explicitly go toF > the top of the file for each subsitution command. I guess it dependsG > on whether the new string contains the old string, like changing "in"oF > to "bin". In which case, why the hell would one want an editor to goF > back to find more occurences of "in" after they've all been replacedC > by "bin". Yeah, I don't like that "found in reverse direction, gop  L Actually, it depends on the order of the strings in the file. Take a look at
 this example;O   1 in 2 thes 3 in 4 end   > replace THE with WE, and the cursor position will be on line 2K then replace IN with BIN, line 3 will be replaced, TPU will look to the endpK of the file for another IN but keep the cursor position on line 3, TPU willtJ tell EVE that it did not find any more instances of IN, EVE will then haveI TPU look back to see if there are any more instances of IN. TPU tells EVEeL that it found IN on line 1. EVE then gives you the message that it found theF string in the reverse direction but it does not know if it had alreadyC replaced the string. The EVE programmers could have (*should* have) J programmed this differently by setting a mark where they started searchingH and then checking to see if the string is before or after that mark, but
 they did not.u  D > there?" question. I'll go to the top myself before starting, thank > you.  L If you would have gone to the top yourself then this would be a non-issue ;)   >...J > > Like Kenneth said, program in TPU rather than in EVE and you can avoid theseUJ > > problems. This will also let you avoid the "abc-xyz, Abc-Xyz, aBc-xYz"J > > problem that someone thought was a good idea. I do not recall if there is aJ > > way in EVE to turn that off and I don't have the time to search for it nowuJ > > but if I get a few seconds and I remember then I'll take a look later.   Actually, I was wrong here :(p8 I spent a few minutes looking at the code and I see that     OLD        NEW     abc        xyz     Abc        Xyz     ABC        XYZ     aBc        xyz     aBC        xyz  J EVE will not replace aBc with xYz like I thought. I could not find any EVE) command that would turn this feature off.h  C > Thank you for clearing this up. But the example still shows a fewt > points I wanted to make: >BC > 1.) TPU is *not* orders of magnitude faster than EDT. An order ofoF > magnitued is a factor of 10. Orders of magnitude are then at least aD > factor of 100, minimum. I really doubt we'll get 100X out of this.  H You did not show this. I am not trying to prove nor disprove that one isJ faster than the other. If you want speed then use Fortran, C, COBOL... YouD did show that EVE is not orders of magnitude faster than EDT in thisG example. If you want to see if EDT is faster than TPU then take the TPU<I example that David Gray included in his original post and work from that.   H > 2.) TPU takes more work than EDT. The substitute command is trivial to> > do in EDT and is easy to mess up in TPU. Yeah, maybe the TPUG > (/command) mode works better (than EVE commands, a la /INIT), but you F > have to keep resetting the position to the top and learn yet anotherC > language. With EDT you simply write a "macro" of commands you are D > already familiar with from normal interactvie line mode editing. IG > guess EDT is sometimes better for simple tasks like this, whereas TPU E > is better for complex tasks that would be difficult to do with EDT.n >cD > All the little things like needing lowercase string for blind caseF > searches and the "found in reverse direction" stuff, all things likeD > that, the style, I prefer EDT. But I do like that EVE asks me if I, > really want to lose changes when quitting. > - > I guess the "EVE" commands, which work withaD > EDIT/TPU/INIT=init-command.EVE, are strictly good only for settingG > margins and the like for interactive sessions like the help suggests.   H I agree 100% with all three paragraphs under item 2, as long as everyoneE remembers that the second paragraph is refereeing to EVE, not to TPU.a  H Sometimes doing something in EDT makes sense, sometimes TPU makes sense,J sometimes I have to use Fortran (and to keep other people happy; sometimesH TECO makes sense, sometimes Perl makes sense, sometimes SED makes sense,I sometimes COBOL makes sense, ... C and every OS other than VMS just nevertK makes sense). What David Gray was doing makes more sense in TPU than EDT, I L wouldn't do it in EDT because he was working with <ESC> characters. Paddy orJ Kenneth or someone gave him the answer he was looking for, I just got intoJ the thread because it looked like another "TPU is bad because EVE does..."4 thread was starting to splinter off the main thread.   -- Peter WeaverL Opinions are my own, and do not reflect the opinions of my employer, nor theK company that it sub-contracts to, nor the company that it sub-contracts to.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:17:33 GMTo# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>r# Subject: HP Webcast - Tru64 & HP-UX G Message-ID: <NLs69.11018$NBd1.524@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>.  I FYI - I received the following this morning. I'm sure many of you have ase well.e  $ ------------------------------------  0 HP is pleased to announce the following webcast:  2 "HP-UX and Tru64 UNIX  A Side by Side Comparison"-  Overview and Standalone Administration Focus@; Presenter: Brad Nichols, HP Tru64 UNIX Technical ConsultantX  0 When: Thursday, August 22nd at 10 -11:30am ET OR)  Thursday, August 22nd at 7 - 8:30 pm ET   I Delivery: This session will be delivered via the web using the HP Virtuall= Classroom together with audio teleconferencing via the phone.e  I Registration: To register for one of these sessions and learn more, go topJ <http://www.hpbroadband.com> and enter your email address and the key word "tru64unix".  E This webcast will be made available for replay subsequent to the livey events.T   Session Overview: L No operating system is more critical to enterprise customers than UNIX, withK its ability to deliver robust, mission-critical solutions.  Upon the mergersK of HP and Compaq, HP is now the largest UNIX vendor in the world, with moretK than two million HP-UX and Tru64(tm) UNIX installations worldwide. You, ouroG valued Tru64(tm) UNIX customers, have expressed some concerns about theuK differences between these operating systems, and how those differences willt affect your operational staffs.   J As HP moves to consolidate its Enterprise UNIX offerings around HP-UX withK Tru64(tm) UNIX features on Itanium(tm), it is important for you to be awaredJ of the technical differences and similarities between HP Tru64 UNIX and HPI HP-UX.  This webcast will explore and compare the two UNIXs in influencesmI and evolution, kernel facilities, installation and system administration, D device management, resource management and clustering.  This talk isC intended to leave the audience with an appreciation of the relativeaH strengths of both UNIX operating systems and many similarities that will+ provide an ease-of-evolution going forward.   1 Session Agenda (subject to change) 1 hr in lengthi! - Road maps for HP UNIX offeringsd - Releases, chips and platformse - How different or alike?6        o Common UNIX is UNIX core3       o Functionally equivalent enterprise features *       o Differentiating value-add features - Device Management and Storagei       o Journal File Systems, - Administrative Frameworks and Installation'       o System Administration Framework?%       o SMP and Platform Partitioninge(       o Resource Management  Frameworks - Clustering(       o TruClusters and MC/Service Guard - Latest Enterprise Features  4 Open questions and answers (15-30 minutes in length)   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:30:53 +0100 (MET)i9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>X' Subject: Re: HP Webcast - Tru64 & HP-UX@; Message-ID: <01KLAJU9SIT0970ARJ@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   2 > HP is pleased to announce the following webcast:   ^^= > Presenter: Brad Nichols, HP Tru64 UNIX Technical Consultantn  J > No operating system is more critical to enterprise customers than UNIX,   F OK, it's aimed at a unix audience, but still: HP saying "no operating G system is more critical to enterprise customers than unix" casts a bad :( light on its VMS and NSK customers.  :-|  ; > HP is now the largest UNIX vendor in the world, with morerE > than two million HP-UX and Tru64(tm) UNIX installations worldwide. a  H What are the relative proportions?  Isaac Asimov's brother once quipped C that the two of them had written 500 books between them, or 250 on . average each.  :-)  3 > Session Agenda (subject to change) 1 hr in lengthf  B Presumably, the endianness issue will be mentioned somewhere.  :-(   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 08:31:46 -0700& From: jordan@ccs4vms.com (Rich Jordan); Subject: Re: Java plugin performance for interactive applet = Message-ID: <cc5619f2.0208140731.1e63981a@posting.google.com>t  E Followup.  We have a testbed PowerTerm Webconnect server up.  Mozillaa@ with the plugin was able to successfully start the Java terminalC client, and I was able to log on to an internal host.  The terminalbE ran for a few minutes, with none of the excess CPU usage of the othero: java applet, nor its high BIO rate and jittery operation. ? Unfortunately after a few minutes it became unresponsive to thedD keyboard except for ctrl-Q (which displayed the character conversionC info), though the mouse kept working.  It did not like the keyboardeD (LK46) and there's no way to change its expectations from the client side.   A So: is it possible the first client is doing 'something wrong' in-B requesting input that is causing the high CPU and BIO usage, sinceF Powerterm, providing much the same fuctionality, has neither problem? D Or is it an issue with the current plug-in not being ready for primeC time?  Both the custom client and Powerterm Java work well under IE E 5.5 with Java, and under IE and Netscape 6.2 on a Mac, so at least itaA doesn't appear to be caused by writing to the MS-bastardized Javal changes.   Thanks for any info...   Rich Jordane    k jordan@ccs4vms.com (Rich Jordan) wrote in message news:<cc5619f2.0208130832.57a5ad03@posting.google.com>...BB > System: PWS600AU, 4MB cache, 1GB RAM, DEC UWSE disks on embedded- > controller, PowerStorm 4D10T video (blech).s > G > Software: OpenVMS V7.2-1, Java V1.3.1-3 JRE (not the full SDK), Motif-G > V1.2-5 (CDE), TCPIP V5.1 eco 4, Mozilla 1.0.  All VMS and Motif classd@ > 1 patches up to 31 July (including the latest UPDATE), and allC > required patches for JAVA have been installed.  This system is atmA > V7.2-1 and Motif 1.2.5 because I still need Display Postscript.w > F > The system and user parameters recommended in the Java release notes > have been followed, .....s > E > One site I need to work with uses Java to provide what amounts to a H > 'telnet-like' interactive client that pops up in its own window.  WhenD > the window opens, CPU goes to 100% and stays there, with about 60%H > being DECW$SERVER_0, the remainder being the subprocess running Java. G > There is a very high rate of BIOs from the Java process, even with nor > activity.  ........  > B > Performance is bad enough to be unusable.  This same applet runsB > passably (not fast, but usable) on a 200MHz Power Mac 9600 and a > 330MHz K6-2 PC (both 128MB). > 
 > ........ >- > Thanks for any assistance. > 
 > Rich Jordann   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 02:13:30 -0700$ From: issinoho@slayme.com (issinoho)8 Subject: JetDirect Printing through Pathworks from Win95= Message-ID: <d0141774.0208140113.270c291b@posting.google.com>n  C OK Folks, this one is really killing me; I've seen similar posts ons this but nothing which works.-   Situation...: AlphaServer 1000 running VMS 7.1, Pathworks 5.0f & UCX 4.1E LaserJet cabled to a DECserver 300, mapped to an LTA port and spooled F through a queue. Queue shared through Pathworks. Share connected to onB Win95 box (native networking components) and everything works just fine.a   What I want...? To replace the DECserver route with a direct network connection  through a JetDirect card...(F Defined a host for the JetDirect in UCX. Created a UCX$TELNETSYM printA queue direct to port 9100 on the JetDirect. Print from VMS yieldsW perfect printout.rD Create Pathworks share of queue (queue and share have the same name)E with appropriate permissions. Connect to queue from Win95 box and trygD to print. BANG! Full failure with an "unspecified system failure" on( the Windows print-driver side of things.  C Works with LAT queue, doesn't work with TELNET queue. What is goingx on? B Tried the same thing from a DOS/WFW box and it DOES work, printingD works perfectly. Is this a Win95 specific issue? I haven't been ableF to try an NT client but I suspect it will work. Strangely when the LPTE device is connected to the share it will correctly show jobs in queuee* and queue state, it just refuses to print!  F I've tried all the relevant tricks like creating a local LPTx.DOS portF and capturing it. I've tried attaching through NET USE then hooking up$ the printer driver to that. Nothing.  * This is causing me grief with my customer.E Where on the server can I find relevant logs showing me why the printt? submission has failed? Or is the failure exclusively within the  Windows box?C Do I need to use a Pathworks/DEC print redirector? If so which one? / Have I got a buggy version of Pathworks or UCX?    Any help MUCH appreciated.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:31:50 +0200 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> < Subject: Re: JetDirect Printing through Pathworks from Win95' Message-ID: <3D5A2386.D843A62E@aaa.com>   4 THE only change seems to be from the LAT symbiont to the telnet dito, right ?  D Don't know why telnet printing should create problems, but if it wasB my envionmrnt, I'd also try to use LPD printing instead of telnet.  ' - create a host for the printer in UCX.e) - setup a "printer" in the printcap file.d& - setup a queue with the LPD symbiont.   Some other things...  * Could you upgrade to a newer UCX package ?  0 You could try with creating a generic queue that: "points" to the telnet queue, and then change the PW share< to point to the generic queue instead. That would "hide" the3 telnet queue from Patwhorks, if that's the problem.g  8 You could also try to run TCPIPTRACE [your-PC-host-name]4 to see what is sent between your PC and the VMS box.   Jan-Erik Sderholm.h     issinoho wrote:U > E > OK Folks, this one is really killing me; I've seen similar posts oni > this but nothing which works.e >  >  > What I want...A > To replace the DECserver route with a direct network connection  > through a JetDirect card...iH > Defined a host for the JetDirect in UCX. Created a UCX$TELNETSYM printC > queue direct to port 9100 on the JetDirect. Print from VMS yieldse > perfect printout.tF > Create Pathworks share of queue (queue and share have the same name)G > with appropriate permissions. Connect to queue from Win95 box and try F > to print. BANG! Full failure with an "unspecified system failure" on* > the Windows print-driver side of things. >d   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 07:30:34 -0700$ From: issinoho@slayme.com (issinoho)< Subject: Re: JetDirect Printing through Pathworks from Win95= Message-ID: <d0141774.0208140630.43999256@posting.google.com>-  E Sorry, I forgot to mention, I am already using a generic queue sharedsB through Pathworks. No luck. I've tried it with generic & execution queues - same result!.  E Also, I'd rather avoid LPD as we've found UCX LPD to be unreliable tos say the least.  U Jan-Erik Sderholm <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message news:<3D5A2386.D843A62E@aaa.com>...a6 > THE only change seems to be from the LAT symbiont to > the telnet dito, right ? > F > Don't know why telnet printing should create problems, but if it wasD > my envionmrnt, I'd also try to use LPD printing instead of telnet. > ) > - create a host for the printer in UCX. + > - setup a "printer" in the printcap file. ( > - setup a queue with the LPD symbiont. >  > Some other things... > , > Could you upgrade to a newer UCX package ? > 2 > You could try with creating a generic queue that< > "points" to the telnet queue, and then change the PW share> > to point to the generic queue instead. That would "hide" the5 > telnet queue from Patwhorks, if that's the problem.o > : > You could also try to run TCPIPTRACE [your-PC-host-name]6 > to see what is sent between your PC and the VMS box. >  > Jan-Erik Sderholm.c >  >  > issinoho wrote:r > > G > > OK Folks, this one is really killing me; I've seen similar posts on ! > > this but nothing which works., > >  > >  > > What I want...C > > To replace the DECserver route with a direct network connectionl > > through a JetDirect card...oJ > > Defined a host for the JetDirect in UCX. Created a UCX$TELNETSYM printE > > queue direct to port 9100 on the JetDirect. Print from VMS yieldsk > > perfect printout.rH > > Create Pathworks share of queue (queue and share have the same name)I > > with appropriate permissions. Connect to queue from Win95 box and trytH > > to print. BANG! Full failure with an "unspecified system failure" on, > > the Windows print-driver side of things. > >t   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:12:13 +0200e9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>t< Subject: Re: JetDirect Printing through Pathworks from Win95' Message-ID: <3D5A734D.754D6F49@aaa.com>y   issinoho wrote:t > G > Also, I'd rather avoid LPD as we've found UCX LPD to be unreliable toh > say the least.  E Well, you should not state that when using an *old* version of UCX...   G I'v mostly/only used LPD and I'v found it more flexible then telnetsym.eG E.g. it's easier to route printing through some NT "print-server", liket) they want to do at some sites I'v helped.o   Jan-Erik Sderholm.    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:32:46 GMT . From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter LANGSTOEGER)< Subject: Re: JetDirect Printing through Pathworks from Win955 Message-ID: <2vw69.165422$cU1.5318798@news.chello.at>   d In article <d0141774.0208140630.43999256@posting.google.com>, issinoho@slayme.com (issinoho) writes:F >Also, I'd rather avoid LPD as we've found UCX LPD to be unreliable to >say the least.g  K The problem with LPD is not really UCX, it is mostly the print server card. F eg. The JetDirect Cards offer an LPD server, but didn't do queuing viaN LPD, don't offer switches defined for LPD (like page header, doublesided,...).H So, LPD is only good to communicate to a host-based print-server (or forG PC crap where a 'printer driver' has to use a 'source file' and converthL it every (printing) time - thus you can't print an excel table if not havingL office installed/payed). And VMS (with DCPS) is a (the best) printer server.  G And to communicate with the JetDirect Crap, Stream/Telnet seems perfectnG (while NT can't offer it natively - DEC offered such a feature for NT).w  I So, use DCPS on VMS, Stream/Telnet (IP_RawTCP) to the JetDirect (TCP PortoH 9100 up to TCP port 9102) and feel good. Then use PATHWORKS/SAMBA or LPD7 to print from the clients to your (VMS) print-server...t  N And to use PATHWORKS for printing, upgrade to the latest and greatest versionsL of PATHWORKS as there have been a lot of bugs in previous versions (and some still are there yet) !  < 	http://www.openvms.compaq.com/pathworks/advancedserver.html  H Advanced Server V7.3 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3[-1] with the OpenVMS registry1 configured/running. But you probably know this...i   -- r Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialistr E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atP A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm looking for (a) Network _and_ VMS Job(s)   ------------------------------   Date: 14 AUG 2002 15:43:08 GMT4 From: karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher)< Subject: Re: JetDirect Printing through Pathworks from Win956 Message-ID: <14AUG02.15430813@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu>  < In a previous article, issinoho@slayme.com (issinoho) wrote:  A ->To replace the DECserver route with a direct network connectionT ->through a JetDirect card...nH ->Defined a host for the JetDirect in UCX. Created a UCX$TELNETSYM printC ->queue direct to port 9100 on the JetDirect. Print from VMS yields  ->perfect printout.sF ->Create Pathworks share of queue (queue and share have the same name)G ->with appropriate permissions. Connect to queue from Win95 box and tryoF ->to print. BANG! Full failure with an "unspecified system failure" on* ->the Windows print-driver side of things.  I I have lots of queues setup this way (on Pathworks 6.0D - but 5.0f workedo too). One suggestion:   < Did you define UCX$TELNETSYM_RAW_TCP to have a value of "1"?   --G -- Carl Karcher, Waisman Computing Services, Waisman Center, UW-Madison 9 --                      karcher.nospam@waisman.wisc.edu  e   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:16:43 -0400o* From: WILLIAM WEBB <WWEBB1@email.usps.gov>0 Subject: RE: List of ASC/ASCQ codes for TL891/2?- Message-ID: <0033000076672181000002L012*@MHS>6   =0AAsk and ye shall receive.0 The link to download the manual is on this page.  H http://www.quantum.com/Products/DLTtape+Drives+and+Media/DLT+7000/Techn=	 ical+Infoe rmation/Manuals/Default.htm-   WWWebb   -----Original Message-----/ From: Info-VAX-Request@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNET ' Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:00 PM B To: Webb, William W Raleigh, NC; Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNET0 Subject: RE: List of ASC/ASCQ codes for TL891/2?     WILLIAM WEBB wrote:  >  > Thanks for asking, Paul- >8> > Found 'em in pages 5-152 - 5-154 of the DLT7000 manual which. > is downloadable in .PDF format from Quantum.  : Did you by chance save the URL where you found the manual?   -- David J. 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 With regards,u  	 Tony Drum   fA This message is not intended to be "spam". To be removed from our  mailing list, please Click remove@techieindex.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:52:29 GMTM0 From: prune@ZAnkh-Morpork.mv.com (Paul Winalski) Subject: Oops!  Never mind....9 Message-ID: <3d5a8b69.2251484353@proxy.news.easynews.com>r  ; That's what I get for replying to messages before having myl; morning coffee and for not reading the traceback carefully. @ I didn't notice that this was a compile-time failure and thought& it was happening at run-time.  (blush)  
 ---------- Remove 'Z' to reply by email.S   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 12:39:02 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) " Subject: Re: Oops!  Never mind....3 Message-ID: <oLK$pEb$lOLb@eisner.encompasserve.org>   l In article <3d5a8b69.2251484353@proxy.news.easynews.com>, prune@ZAnkh-Morpork.mv.com (Paul Winalski) writes:= > That's what I get for replying to messages before having myb= > morning coffee and for not reading the traceback carefully.hB > I didn't notice that this was a compile-time failure and thought( > it was happening at run-time.  (blush)  D No, that (my response), is what you get for posting your corrections in a different thread :-)o   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 06:17:07 GMT)/ From: "James Wilkinson" <elementyl@hotmail.com>l Subject: Re: OpenVMS servicesnA Message-ID: <DBm69.5787$iA7.207965553@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>-   Yong Liu wrote: G > Another newbie question. In WinXP, there is a concept of services. Inc@ > UNIX, the counterpart is daemon. What is it called in OpenVMS?B > Suppose it is called a serivce, how to make a process an OpenVMSE > service? Do I have to include this process in certain file and haveuD > the system check it at specified interval? If so which file? Which. > OpenVMS documentation discusses this aspect.  L The closest analog is the layered product startup database as implemented byL the SYSMAN STARTUP commands.  See http://makeashorterlink.com/?V29B32381 for	 the docs.e   Jamesm   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:51:59 +0000 (UTC)  From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk Subject: Re: OpenVMS servicesi+ Message-ID: <ajdg8v$icm$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>o  o In article <%Ri69.5543$NBd1.2686@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, "Yong Liu" <fdu9774@rogers.com> writes:i
 >Hi there, >iL >Another newbie question. In WinXP, there is a concept of services. In UNIX,G >the counterpart is daemon. What is it called in OpenVMS? Suppose it istI >called a serivce, how to make a process an OpenVMS service? Do I have to E >include this process in certain file and have the system check it at L >specified interval? If so which file? Which OpenVMS documentation discusses
 >this aspect.a >z >Thanks a lot. > = The equivalent of a UNIX Daemon on VMS is a detached process.m  + This is created with the RUN/DETACH command0   Alpha2:h run process/detachl     RUNB  	   ProcessW           /DETACHEDB         /NODETACHEDo  H        Creates a detached process with the same user identification codeG        (UIC) as the current process. (To create a detached process withDH        a different UIC, use the /UIC qualifier.) By default, the created)        process is not a detached process.,  G        By default, resource quotas for the detached process are limitedaD        by the quotas of the creator process (maximum) and the systemG        parameters PQL_M* (minimum). The IMPERSONATE or CMKRNL privilegetE        allows you to specify any quotas for the detached process thateB        exceed the normal range. Unless you have the IMPERSONATE orF        CMKRNL privilege, the maximum number of detached processes thatF        you can create is limited to the quota defined by MAX_DETACH in        your UAF.    O Generally speaking most such detached processes (but see note for another majoreM source of detached processes) are started up at system startup either by the s8 VMS startup process itself eg via sys$system:startup.comN or by the system manager placing a call to a command procedure which starts upL the detached process in one of a number of standard places - the most common$ being sys$startup:systartup_vms.com.  E Note. When you login to VMS you are already using a detached process.PO The process you are running is a detached process created by the system runningo( the command interpreter (generally DCL).  7 More information on detached processes can be found at n  T http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/731FINAL/5841/5841pro_contents.html#toc_chapter_2  L Note. If you create a detached process which needs access to DCL you need toM specify that it runs the loginout image see the second example in section 2.5     
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------   Date: 14 Aug 2002 15:01:46 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: OpenVMS servicesC* Message-ID: <ajdrcq$gsb$1@web1.cup.hp.com>  o In article <%Ri69.5543$NBd1.2686@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, "Yong Liu" <fdu9774@rogers.com> writes:e  L :Another newbie question. In WinXP, there is a concept of services. In UNIX,G :the counterpart is daemon. What is it called in OpenVMS? Suppose it is I :called a serivce, how to make a process an OpenVMS service? Do I have toLE :include this process in certain file and have the system check it athL :specified interval? If so which file? Which OpenVMS documentation discusses
 :this aspect.s  I   Please read through the OpenVMS Programming Concepts Manual as a start. J   This manual will help immerse you in OpenVMS terminology and constructs.E   (Reading the documentation should not be considered an admission of 
   defeat. :-)t  J   OpenVMS does have various constructs that are analogous to those of yourH   request, but -- as is usual -- it is best if you tell us what you wantE   to do and provide the related background information, and only theneK   indicate or compare how something is done on another platform; to provideiE   this comparision as secondary or supporting information.  (Somewhat K   counter-intuititively, asking a very direct or very pointed question can yI   get you what is effectively a wrong answer for your particular problem.-F   By providing some background details, other and sometimes far better   approaches can be offered.)?  H   It is also useful if you indicate the OpenVMS version and platform, asI   this too can help us tailor the response(s) to your specific situation.   I   Start with the programming concepts, then branch out into the referencerK   manuals and then (probably) into the TCP/IP Services programming manuals.u    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------   Date: 14 Aug 2002 15:24:08 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: OpenVMS services * Message-ID: <ajdsmo$gsb$3@web1.cup.hp.com>  L In article <ajdg8v$icm$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>, david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk writes:p :In article <%Ri69.5543$NBd1.2686@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, "Yong Liu" <fdu9774@rogers.com> writes: :>Hi there,r :>M :>Another newbie question. In WinXP, there is a concept of services. In UNIX,oH :>the counterpart is daemon. What is it called in OpenVMS? Suppose it isJ :>called a serivce, how to make a process an OpenVMS service? Do I have toF :>include this process in certain file and have the system check it atM :>specified interval? If so which file? Which OpenVMS documentation discussesa :>this aspect. :> :>Thanks a lot.  :>> :The equivalent of a UNIX Daemon on VMS is a detached process. : , :This is created with the RUN/DETACH command  J   A detached job is certainly the most direct equivilent of a UNIX daemon.I   Alternatives include a pseudo device driver (one of my favorites), or aPJ   server symbiont, or a process started by inetd or DECnet, or a batch jobG   set to restart...  And then there are the jobs started by the processg7   control and scheduling packages that are available...e  '   Best to learn the background first...-    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 02:09:39 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)eF Subject: Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200.3 Message-ID: <AuMvp2g2foXd@eisner.encompasserve.org>   x In article <aus-375A57.06564014082002@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>, "Aus, Hans Magnus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes:; > Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200.s > E > Does this mean that the server is a EV2 chip which runs at 200 MHZ?n  J EV3 was the first Alpha chip that came close to running anything like VMS.J It was used only in an internal test harness where a Unix chip did all the I/O.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:48:53 +0200 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>pF Subject: Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200.' Message-ID: <3D5A0B65.7260004F@aaa.com>w   EV4 at 190 Mhz, actualy :-)l  - The "A" in "A500MP" *may* stand for "Alpha" ? 0 The "MP" stands, I think, for "Multi Processor".  A Later systems had better correspondese between numbers and Mhz's.m  % But isn't the name "...4/200" realy ?    Jan-Erik Sderholm.o   "Aus, Hans Magnus" wrote:  > ; > Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200.e > E > Does this mean that the server is a EV2 chip which runs at 200 MHZ?f > What does A500MP mean? >  > --6 > Hans Magnus Aus, Wuerzburg, aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:19:27 GMTk. From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter LANGSTOEGER)F Subject: Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200.5 Message-ID: <P8q69.162965$cU1.5212316@news.chello.at>   x In article <aus-375A57.06564014082002@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>, "Aus, Hans Magnus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes:: >Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200.   A typo.I  D >Does this mean that the server is a EV2 chip which runs at 200 MHZ? >What does A500MP mean?r   AFAIKrM The first AlphaServer 2100 was called A500MP. It was a EV4 with about 190MHz.    -- - Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERa% Network and OpenVMS system specialistm E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atP A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm looking for (a) Network _and_ VMS Job(s)   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:20:33 +02000, From: aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de (Hans M. Aus)F Subject: Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200.D Message-ID: <aus-1408021220340001@wvia20.virologie.uni-wuerzburg.de>  0 In article <3D5A0B65.7260004F@aaa.com>, Jan-Erik1 =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> wrote:, ...d > ' > But isn't the name "...4/200" realy ?e >   & On ebay.de it's being offered as 2/200   -- .B Cheers, Hans M. Aus, Wuerzburg, Germany,  aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:14:29 +0000 (UTC)  From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.ukF Subject: Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200.+ Message-ID: <ajdhj5$ioo$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>r  c In article <AuMvp2g2foXd@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: y >In article <aus-375A57.06564014082002@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>, "Aus, Hans Magnus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes:P< >> Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200. >> AF >> Does this mean that the server is a EV2 chip which runs at 200 MHZ? > K >EV3 was the first Alpha chip that came close to running anything like VMS.fK >It was used only in an internal test harness where a Unix chip did all thet >I/O.    The first 2100s were EV4.p  I As I recall there were 2100 EV4 200MHZ machines. I think there were also nK EV5 200MHZ machines. My guess would be that the 2 refers to it being fittedbO with 2 CPUs (the 2100 can have upto 4 CPUS - though you can have more memory onm$ the system if you have just 3 CPUs).  F If you can access the system then you can get further details by using   analyze/system SDA> CLUE CONFIG  # For instance my Alpha 2100s show :-8   System Configuration:a ---------------------  System Information::I System Type   AlphaServer 2100 5/300                    Primary CPU ID 000K Cycle Time    3.4 nsec (291 MHz)                        Pagesize       8192s Byte   Memory Configuration:tD Cluster    PFN Start    PFN Count         Range (MByte)        UsageF  #00             0          256         0.0 MB -     2.0 MB    ConsoleE  #01           256       163575         2.0 MB -  1279.9 MB    SystemrF  #02        163831            9      1279.9 MB -  1280.0 MB    Console  # Per-CPU Slot Processor Information:>K CPU ID         00                        CPU State    rc,pa,pp,cv,pv,pmv,plp" CPU Type       EV5  Pass 4 (21164)G PAL Code       1.20-3                    Halt PC      00000000.20000000 G CPU Revision   ....                      Halt PS      00000000.00001F00eN Serial Number  ..........                Halt Code    "Bootstrap or Powerfail"J Console Vers   V5.3-6                    Halt Request "Default, No Action"  K CPU ID         01                        CPU State    rc,pa,pp,cv,pv,pmv,pl- ystem Configuration: --------------------- " CPU Type       EV5  Pass 4 (21164)G PAL Code       1.20-3                    Halt PC      00000000.00000000 G CPU Revision   ....                      Halt PS      00000000.00001F00 N Serial Number  ..........                Halt Code    "Bootstrap or Powerfail"J Console Vers   V5.3-6                    Halt Request "Default, No Action"  K CPU ID         02                        CPU State    rc,pa,pp,cv,pv,pmv,plV" CPU Type       EV5  Pass 4 (21164)G PAL Code       1.20-3                    Halt PC      00000000.00000000NG CPU Revision   ....                      Halt PS      00000000.00001F00 N Serial Number  ..........                Halt Code    "Bootstrap or Powerfail"J Console Vers   V5.3-6                    Halt Request "Default, No Action"  n  ; Note also that as well as the 2100 there is also the 2100A.eJ The 2100 had few PCI slots and mostly EISA slots. The 2100A had mostly PCII slots with a few EISA slots. Apart from that the systems were identical -eF the 2100A came out later than the 2100 and a 2100 could be upgraded to a 2100A.    
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:09:07 GMTe. From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter LANGSTOEGER)F Subject: Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200.5 Message-ID: <7wt69.164276$cU1.5270171@news.chello.at>   L In article <ajdhj5$ioo$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>, david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk writes:d >In article <AuMvp2g2foXd@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:z >>In article <aus-375A57.06564014082002@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>, "Aus, Hans Magnus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes:= >>> Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200.m >>> G >>> Does this mean that the server is a EV2 chip which runs at 200 MHZ?i >>L >>EV3 was the first Alpha chip that came close to running anything like VMS.L >>It was used only in an internal test harness where a Unix chip did all the >>I/O. >e >The first 2100s were EV4. >iJ >As I recall there were 2100 EV4 200MHZ machines. I think there were also  >EV5 200MHZ machines.   + No, the slowest EV5 was 250MHz. We had one.e  L >                     My guess would be that the 2 refers to it being fittedP >with 2 CPUs (the 2100 can have upto 4 CPUS - though you can have more memory on% >the system if you have just 3 CPUs).l   2CPU, that's a good guess.   -- n Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERr% Network and OpenVMS system specialistD E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atP A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm looking for (a) Network _and_ VMS Job(s)   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:08:15 +020029 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>lF Subject: Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200.' Message-ID: <3D5A725F.1CED5DB9@aaa.com>   8 Sorry, but I dont think there even *was* a "2100 2/200".  = It should be "2100 4/200", the "4" is for "EV4" and the "200"  was for (nearly) 200 Mhz.e  9 "2100 4/nnn" come with 1-4 200, 233 or 275 Mhz EV4 CPU's.   9 "2100 5/nnn" come with 1-4 250, 300 or 375 Mhz EV5 CPU's.-   Jan-Erik Sderholm.e   SA   Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote: > M >In article <ajdhj5$ioo$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>, david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk writes:s: > > My guess would be that the 2 refers to it being fittedS > > with 2 CPUs (the 2100 can have upto 4 CPUS - though you can have more memory onn( > > the system if you have just 3 CPUs). >  > 2CPU, that's a good guess.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:38:55 GMTi! From: Andy <acs@fcgnet.works.net>-F Subject: Re: Please interpret: Digital 2100 Alpha Server A500MP 2/200.> Message-ID: <Xns926A8A8C1361Facsfcgnetworksnet@216.166.71.232>  4 Jan-Erik Sderholm <aaa@aaa.com> enlightened us with  news:3D5A725F.1CED5DB9@aaa.com:   : > Sorry, but I dont think there even *was* a "2100 2/200". > ? > It should be "2100 4/200", the "4" is for "EV4" and the "200"5 > was for (nearly) 200 Mhz.m  9 How about (wild guess).... someone got this with 4 CPU's,t5 thought the 4 in 4/200 meant CPU number, sold/removedp2 two of the CPU's and now thinks it is now called a 2/200.  9 Basically, someone was clueless about Alpha system namingc8 nomenclature and guessed wrong. This would make me a bit6 nervous about the accuracy of the rest of the info for that particular system.n   -Andy-   --   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 10:16:44 -0700" From: cstranslations@msn.com (Joe)) Subject: Reading FP, SP, and PC registersk= Message-ID: <d56d1c2d.0208140916.640e7746@posting.google.com>-  ' Compaq C V6.5-001 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3u+ Compaq C V6.2-003 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.1-1H2l  E I am writing a little error handling routine and need to retrieve the@D contents of the mentioned registers. I suppose on a VAX I could futzF around with some MACRO and the FP but this is on an alpha. It's been aF while since I looked at any MACRO and even back then I never looked at all that much of it...  C There's the linkage pragma in C but unless I'm mis-reading the docseD all that seems to get me is the ability to tell the compiler to "put2 this argument in that register for this function."  D I just stumbled across LIB$GET_INVO_CONTEXT and LIB$GET_INVO_HANDLE.A The FM (which isn't quite as fine as the old gray wall use to be)hD seems to indicate that you have to call the 2nd passing the returnedB value to the 1st. According to the fine manual LIB$GET_INVO_HANDLEE accepts 1 argument (read only) - an invocation context block and says F (not a whole lot), "...only the frame pointer and stack pointer fieldsD of an invocation context block must be defined." I am taking this toD mean that (it's a read only argument) and must be loaded with the FPB and SP prior to the call. But that's what I'm trying to get (along with a PC value).u  F Have I been looking at this too long? Any one have a code snippet thatC retrieves the registers in question they would be willing to share?i   tiah joeE   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:40:34 GMT  From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG - Subject: Re: Reading FP, SP, and PC registers 0 Message-ID: <00A12720.A0CA941D@SendSpamHere.ORG>  b In article <d56d1c2d.0208140916.640e7746@posting.google.com>, cstranslations@msn.com (Joe) writes:( >Compaq C V6.5-001 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.3, >Compaq C V6.2-003 on OpenVMS Alpha V7.1-1H2 > F >I am writing a little error handling routine and need to retrieve theE >contents of the mentioned registers. I suppose on a VAX I could futzmG >around with some MACRO and the FP but this is on an alpha. It's been auG >while since I looked at any MACRO and even back then I never looked atl >all that much of it...e > D >There's the linkage pragma in C but unless I'm mis-reading the docsE >all that seems to get me is the ability to tell the compiler to "putt3 >this argument in that register for this function."m > E >I just stumbled across LIB$GET_INVO_CONTEXT and LIB$GET_INVO_HANDLE.cB >The FM (which isn't quite as fine as the old gray wall use to be)E >seems to indicate that you have to call the 2nd passing the returnedpC >value to the 1st. According to the fine manual LIB$GET_INVO_HANDLEeF >accepts 1 argument (read only) - an invocation context block and saysG >(not a whole lot), "...only the frame pointer and stack pointer fields-E >of an invocation context block must be defined." I am taking this tooE >mean that (it's a read only argument) and must be loaded with the FP C >and SP prior to the call. But that's what I'm trying to get (alongw >with a PC value). >rG >Have I been looking at this too long? Any one have a code snippet thatuD >retrieves the registers in question they would be willing to share? >a >tia >joe   Hey Joe,   Perhaps this will help...t     #include <libicb.h>h #include <pdscdef.h> #include <ssdef.h>  
 #define	FP 29c
 #define	SP 30s  8 int LIB$GET_CURR_INVO_CONTEXT(struct invo_context_blk*);    struct invo_context_blk context; struct pdscdef *pdsc;d   main ()t {      __int64 fp,sp,pc;a  (     LIB$GET_CURR_INVO_CONTEXT(&context);#     fp = context.libicb$q_ireg[FP];l#     sp = context.libicb$q_ireg[SP];oD     pdsc = (struct pdscdef*) context.libicb$ph_procedure_descriptor;)     pc = (__int64) pdsc->pdsc$q_entry[0];p }M     --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMi             5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" d   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 01:23:06 -0700. From: daniel.cabero@euralis.fr (daniel CABERO)$ Subject: Rexec from W2000 to OpenVMS= Message-ID: <20977696.0208140023.2e880a7d@posting.google.com>t  F My purpose is to activate a batch job on my OpenVMS server V7.2-1 from a W2000 application. something like* rexec Ip-adress -l username -n DCL-commandF The command Rexec seems to answer this question but the user must type its passwordE Is there a way not to type the password or to pass it in parameters ?    Thanks for any advices   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:04:54 +0200o9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>a( Subject: Re: Rexec from W2000 to OpenVMS' Message-ID: <3D5A1D36.4BBA6662@aaa.com>-   This is a W2000 question not ?4 Please find a newsgroup (or check the documentation)/ that deals with the rexec tool on Windows 2000..  1 On the VMS systems this is no problem, we do thiss6 from a IBM/MVS systems with the rexec provided by IBM.5 The rexec tool on IBM/MVS takes a password parameter.d   Jan-Erik Sderholm.-   daniel CABERO wrote: > H > My purpose is to activate a batch job on my OpenVMS server V7.2-1 from > a W2000 application. > something like, > rexec Ip-adress -l username -n DCL-commandH > The command Rexec seems to answer this question but the user must type > its passwordG > Is there a way not to type the password or to pass it in parameters ?r >  > Thanks for any advicee   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:50:44 +0200., From: "Rainer Giese" <waste.not@welcome.net>( Subject: Re: Rexec from W2000 to OpenVMS6 Message-ID: <ajd95k$1ajebv$1@ID-138444.news.dfncis.de>  A "daniel CABERO" <daniel.cabero@euralis.fr> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 7 news:20977696.0208140023.2e880a7d@posting.google.com...eH > My purpose is to activate a batch job on my OpenVMS server V7.2-1 from > a W2000 application. > something like, > rexec Ip-adress -l username -n DCL-commandH > The command Rexec seems to answer this question but the user must type > its passwordG > Is there a way not to type the password or to pass it in parameters ?e  I There is a free WinRSH32 by William Cheung somewhere in the net. It has a  password parameter.bK Otherwise you can use RSH instead of REXEC, but you'll need to map all your E Windows users to VMS users by creating TCPIP proxies on the VMS site.r   -- Regards, Rainer Giese   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 08:56:30 -0700( From: robert_kersey@bat.com (Rob Kersey) Subject: RWMBX State.w= Message-ID: <f936a854.0208140756.482941f5@posting.google.com>s   Help!i  E We have a system where some processes tend to go into RWMBX state nowe	 and then.f  F I am writing a .COM file that allows the user to enter the name of theD process in RWMBX and then Copy's the contents of the MBAn: to a file for later inspection.p  D I know this can be done with SDA to work out the MBAn: being used byF the process, and then copying out the contents of the MBAn:. However IF am trying to create something more user friendly for system operators.  C In order to test this I need a simple C program that will cause the @ process to go into RWMBX state. Does anyone have such a program?  E Obviously the ideal solution would be to look at the code causing thegD process to go into RWMBX and alter it so as it does not write fasterA than it reads from the MBAn: however the source is not available.e  F Another option would be to up the BUFQUO of the offending mailbox, but% do not want to really do this either.n   Thanks Any advice would be helpful!   We are using
 VMS V5.5-2   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:35:35 GMT0/ From: "James Wilkinson" <elementyl@hotmail.com>I Subject: Re: RWMBX State.rA Message-ID: <rFv69.6606$Z32.216538353@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>z   Rob Kersey wrote: G > Obviously the ideal solution would be to look at the code causing theoF > process to go into RWMBX and alter it so as it does not write fasterC > than it reads from the MBAn: however the source is not available.M  F Just a comment, sounds like the problem is with your *reader*, not theK process going into RWMBX.  Actually there is nothing wrong with RWMBX if it J is temporary, just when it is an ongoing condition.  So if you want to fixF this you'll need to determine why the mailbox is no longer being read.   James9   ------------------------------   Date: 14 Aug 2002 17:48:48 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: RWMBX State.g* Message-ID: <aje560$jkp$1@web1.cup.hp.com>  h In article <f936a854.0208140756.482941f5@posting.google.com>, robert_kersey@bat.com (Rob Kersey) writes:  F :We have a system where some processes tend to go into RWMBX state now
 :and then.  ?   That state can be entirely normal, particularly if transient.E  G :I am writing a .COM file that allows the user to enter the name of the-E :process in RWMBX and then Copy's the contents of the MBAn: to a file  :for later inspection.  B   I would tend to use C or C++ or otherwise -- and not DCL -- for 7   this.  DCL I/O is rather limited in its capabilities.n  E :I know this can be done with SDA to work out the MBAn: being used by1G :the process, and then copying out the contents of the MBAn:. However I0G :am trying to create something more user friendly for system operators.,  @   There is no particularly easy way to do this; you're rummaging?   inside an application, and that usually involves cooperation.z>   Depending on the type of mailbox involved, you might be able:   to locate the particular mailbox using the logical name.>   Alternatively, periodically scan through the mailbox devices>   present on the system using $device_scan and $getdvi[w], and;   find the one(s) associated with a process that $getjpi[w]p<   reports as stuck in RWMBX.  Using $getdvi[w], you might be>   able to characterize the mailboxes involved, too -- possibly)   confirming mailbox size and quota, etc.b  ?   And beware, these hacks can and do tend to come back to haunt0A   you later.  For instance, when another application is installedhD   and that application happens to see RWMBX and has matching mailbox@   attributes -- but one that cannot tolerate the thievery of the?   mailbox contents.  (These interactions can be nasty to find.)   D :In order to test this I need a simple C program that will cause theA :process to go into RWMBX state. Does anyone have such a program?   =   Write one.  There are examples of using mailboxes from C onu=   the Freeware.  Write enough data into the mailbox without a >   reader, and the process writing the data will eventually see   the RWMBX state.  F :Obviously the ideal solution would be to look at the code causing theE :process to go into RWMBX and alter it so as it does not write fastermB :than it reads from the MBAn: however the source is not available.  #   It is the reader, not the writer..  G :Another option would be to up the BUFQUO of the offending mailbox, buty& :do not want to really do this either.  A   Applications, um, lacking in programming style will default the A   size and mailbox buffer quotas, meaning you can effect these on6@   a system-wide basis.  (Beware, as other applications that are,A   um, lacking in programming style can encounter errors resultingP   from the change.)r   :We are using VMS V5.5-2  ?   Please seriously consider version and architecture upgrades. e  N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 09:16:27 +0200p9 From: "Bernard Giroud" <bernard.giroud@creditlyonnais.fr> / Subject: TCPIP TELNET service on alternate port 2 Message-ID: <3d5a043f$0$476$626a54ce@news.free.fr>   Hi all,P  E Is it possible to define a HP stack TCPIP TELNET service listening one	 alternate : ports (say 30000 and 30001) on top of traditional port 23?  I I tried something like "set service mytelnet/port=30000/prot=tcp ..." buto the C syntax of the command needs the keywords /user, /file. If I specifypF /file=sys$system:tcpip$telnet.exe, it still starts the login procedure" of the user (in this case SYSTEM).  
 Any ideas?   Bernard Giroud  Credit Lyonnais (Switzerland) SA   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 08:37:54 -0400o* From: WILLIAM WEBB <WWEBB1@email.usps.gov>3 Subject: RE: TCPIP TELNET service on alternate port - Message-ID: <0033000076675245000002L052*@MHS>i  , =0ASo nobody managed to convince you guys at) Credit Lyonnais to migrate away from VMS?P   :^)t   WWWebb   -----Original Message-----/ From: Info-VAX-Request@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNETt( Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:24 AMB To: Webb, William W Raleigh, NC; Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNET/ Subject: TCPIP TELNET service on alternate port-     Hi all,e  E Is it possible to define a HP stack TCPIP TELNET service listening onT	 alternatej: ports (say 30000 and 30001) on top of traditional port 23?  H I tried something like "set service mytelnet/port=3D30000/prot=3Dtcp ..= " but5 the1C syntax of the command needs the keywords /user, /file. If I specifyMH /file=3Dsys$system:tcpip$telnet.exe, it still starts the login procedur= ew" of the user (in this case SYSTEM).  
 Any ideas?   Bernard Giroud! Credit Lyonnais (Switzerland) SA=m   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:05:28 +0000 (UTC)P From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk Subject: Re: Terminal loggingp+ Message-ID: <ajddho$hen$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>i  o In article <F6f69.7334$8aG1.1255@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>, "Yong Liu" <fdu9774@rogers.com> writes:a >Hi,J >I have a newbie question. Suppose you have a command terminal ( a shell).M >How do you log all the input/output of all command you issued. In HP-UX, younM >can issue a script command. All the input/outout goes to the script.txt or ay; >file you specified. How can I do similar thing in OpenVMS?  >s >Thanks, >n	 >Yong Liu4 >U   Two fairly standard ways.m  " 1)  SET HOST 0/LOG=logfilename.log  O This will present you with the username/password prompts and allow you to loginrJ to your system again over DECNET. your session will then be logged in the J logfile you specified. If you just specify SET HOST 0/LOG then the defaultN logfile created is called SETHOST.LOG. This requires your system to be runningO DECNET but can also be used to record what you do on a remote system in a localD@ logfile by just changing the command to SET HOST remotenode/LOG.    = 2) Look in sys$examples for a program called   ALPHA_LOGGER.C2L    Compile and link this  - there are instructions for both ALPHA and VAX in    the source file.e    2 eg  ( Mhub...:   cc/standard=vaxc alpha_logger Mhub...:   link alpha_logger: Mhub...:   alpha_logger :== $sys$examples:alpha_logger.exe      Now record a session :-   Mhub...:   alpha_loggera Mhub...:   sh sysm
 Mhub...:   lod;    %SYSTEM-S-NORMAL, normal successful completion1:48:59.052  O Note. The logout command just ends the recording session - it does not log you   out completely.   < Your session will have been recorded in the file SESSION.LOG   ie   Mhub...: typ session.log   Mhub...: sh sys-J OpenVMS V7.2-1  on node MHUB  14-AUG-2002 11:48:51.90  Uptime  21 16:41:14M   Pid    Process Name    State  Pri      I/O       CPU       Page flts  PagessM 00000081 SWAPPER         HIB     16        0   0 00:01:49.28         0      0mO 0001DC84 <SMTP-03>       HIB      6    66898   0 00:02:11.51      2918    368 NbM 00000085 LANACP          HIBO    12       --  swapped  out  --             260M 00000087 IPCACP          HIB     10       10   0 00:00:00.01        31     20uM 00000088 ERRFMT          HIB      8    83077   0 00:01:04.20        89    103tO 0001ED09 <SMTP-28>       HIB      6     1038   0 00:01:02.48      2346    310 N/M 0000008A OPCOM           HIB      7    44914   0 00:00:28.44      2197     49eM 0000008B AUDIT_SERVER    HIB      9   182022   0 00:01:53.24       172    153 M 0000008C JOB_CONTROL     HIB      8  1316016   0 00:12:46.68        80     78-N 0000008D SHADOW_SERVER   HIB      6    65995   0 00:00:20.57        71     920 .(" . rest of show sys listing removed .    t Mhub...: lo-8   Process SYSTEM_4 logged out at 14-AUG-2002 11:48:59.05 Mhub...:     Hope that helpsp  
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:29:18 +0100h4 From: John Laird <john@laird-towers.freeserve.co.uk> Subject: Re: uaf8 Message-ID: <ff3kluk62h80ug9qpbh9i147ptk1atlpph@4ax.com>  F On 13 Aug 2002 08:39:14 -0600, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote:  o >In article <343f30ae.0208130522.382a90d6@posting.google.com>, SPAMSINK2001@YAHOO.COM (Alan E. Feldman) writes: i >> "Kenneth H. Fairfield" <My.Full.Name@intel.com> wrote in message news:<3D582EAE.5A715929@intel.com>...  >o >>G >> I would think, though, that logging in (loginout.exe, I would think)sG >> and setting the password (setp0.exe) would honor only EXECUTIVE modeo$ >> logical names. But not AUTHORIZE. > C >An outer mode logical name that is honored by AUTHORIZE but not by " >LOGINOUT seems to invite trouble.  J But it does allow you to examine authorization files on other nodes (in orI out of a cluster), as well as other copies on the same node.  It would be 3 ridiculously restrictive if this were not the case.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:10:08 +0200'- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>a* Subject: Re: UCX and FTP Name Translation?' Message-ID: <3D59679E.B4F3ED5E@Free.fr>e  M Do a "$ tcpip show host" and see if you find an entry for SOMEONE.COM in your- local or bind database.e   Example:   DTL02> tcpip sh host apple.com        BIND database   Server:   213.36.80.1,   Host address    Host nameD   17.254.3.183    APPLE.COMH     If there is no, do this:  5 $ tcpip> set host someone.com/address=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxxs  P It will record its name together with its address in your local naming database,? which will allow you to use the name instead of the IP address.l   D.     Bill Clark wrote:e >  > greetings K >     i am experiencing problems 'FTP'ing to a remote site - they insist onm > changing the? >    FTP address and notifiying me later. i am using the actualt > XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX N >     address because attempts to use the 'FTP.SOMEONE.COM' translation is not >     available.L >     'FTP-E-HSTINF, Failed to get host information for FTP.SOMEONE.COM from- >     database, -RMS-E-RNF, record not found't > = >     OpenVMS 7.1-2, UCX version 4.2, ECO-4. Alphaserver4100._   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:36:33 +0100a( From: Mr Beermat <beermat.geo@yahoo.com>( Subject: VAXstation 3100 not starting up8 Message-ID: <tufklucj7ep36kftteds2sl52p94n63pg1@4ax.com>  E I recently brought a VAXstation 3100 model 76, which on powerup showsc% diag leds 7-4 on, 3-0 off. Looking athF http://bloodmask.vaxstation.com/3100leds.html it seems that the CPU isE executing instructions (a good thing :), but is halting before memoryh sizing. D Looking at the planar, I see there are no memory modules installed. 2 I guess I need at least (1?2?) modules installed? A If so, what is the name / model for hte necessary modules please?y   greg   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:52:14 +0100w( From: Mr Beermat <beermat.geo@yahoo.com>, Subject: Re: VAXstation 3100 not starting up8 Message-ID: <a2hklu8l2k4gompe7677rvgf7o642aasml@4ax.com>  1 I should have googled a bit more before posting :V< http://www.centon.com/dec1480w.htm tells me I need a pair of MS44-AA's...   greg   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 22:04:06 +0200V- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>_& Subject: Re: VMS to OpenVMS conversion' Message-ID: <3D596633.B6F5F0AF@Free.fr>n  6 (let's see how many answers you will get to your post)   1. read the FAQ:7 VMS2.   What is the difference between VMS and OpenVMS?   I VMS and OpenVMS are two names for the same operating system.  Originally, D the operating system was called VAX-11/VMS; it changed to VAX/VMS atE around VAX/VMS V2.0.  When the VMS operating system was ported to theCC Alpha platform, it was renamed OpenVMS, for both VAX and Alpha (and2F for the Itanium Processor Family), in part to signify the high degree E of support for industry standards such as POSIX, which provides many n features of UNIX systems.   H For those versions with POSIX, an OpenVMS license allows you to install G and run POSIX for OpenVMS at no additional charge; all you need is the  L media and documentation which can be found on the Consolidated Distribution I and On-Line Documentation CD-ROMs.  Support for the POSIX package on moreoH recent OpenVMS releases is not available, various parts of POSIX such asI calls from the API are being integrated more directly into OpenVMS.  For n4 more information on POSIX for VMS see question SOFT2  C What became confusing is that the OpenVMS name was introduced firstsF for OpenVMS AXP V1.0 causing the widespread misimpression that OpenVMSF was for Alpha AXP only, while "regular VMS" was for VAX.  In fact, theI official name of the VAX operating system was changed as of V5.5, though  E the name did not start to be actually used in the product until V6.0.l  G The proper names for OpenVMS on the two platforms are now "OpenVMS VAX" @ and "OpenVMS Alpha", the latter having superseded "OpenVMS AXP".   				[Arne Vajhj]   < ------------------------------------------------------------* VMS3.   How do I port from VMS to OpenVMS?  9 You already did.  Wasn't that easy?  (See question VMS2.)4    O 2. The Y2K issue probably helped you to find your sources. Compile your sources O with your brand new Alpha compiler with or without the /OLD_F77 qualifier, linkEN them (do not forget to rebuild the object libraries) and Bob is your Uncle :-)    N 3. DEmigrate, today OpenVMS Migration Software for VAX to Alpha Systems (MSVA)K will do 90 or 95% of the (good) job. You will however have to deal with theaL messages that it will give you on unresolved issues. I do not think that youO will be able to "VEST" (from "VAX Environment Software Translator", which givess= the VEST DCL verb) your sources without a consultant to help.2   D.   "James M. Knox" wrote: >  ../.. J > So...  Any suggestions as to who I should talk to?  And am I missing any( > important tools other than DecMigrate?   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 07:22:43 -0700% From: tadamsmar@yahoo.com (Tom Adams)-& Subject: Re: VMS to OpenVMS conversion< Message-ID: <ea44f5a1.0208140622.c2a4d7a@posting.google.com>  g "James M. Knox" <jknox@trisoft.com> wrote in message news:<Xns92697F4D14F81jknoxtrisoftcom@10.0.0.1>...mK > Okay, please be patient.  I'm stepping into a new arena here, with a lot i > of *old* VMS experience. > J > It looks like we will be converting a large amount of software from VAX H > VMS (not OpenVMS) to AlphaServer OpenVMS.  Most of this, fortunately, A > includes the source code, but a bunch doesn't (just the binary e > application).  > I > The binary pretty much sticks us with DecMigrate and hope for the best.d > H > The other (mostly Fortran 77 source, with some Macro) we can probably @ > handle without too much trouble, although it is a LOT of code. > K > I have "Google" searched, as well as the Compaq website, and see mention aF > of "there are a lot of companies that do this" but no list of names F > (much less recommendations).  We may, for reasons to complicated to K > explain, be able to let any of these companies do the work, but we would tG > probably be very interested in paying them as consultants to help us eK > come up to speed quickly and help us with specific problems that may hit   > us.  > K > So...  Any suggestions as to who I should talk to?  And am I missing any :( > important tools other than DecMigrate? > 2 > Suggestions, questions, warnings most welcome...  E I did a conversion in-house a few years ago.  For about 100,000 linesa7 of FORTRAN source code, my old notes indicate 3 issues:   I 1. Page sizes.  There were a few locations in the code the assumed a pages> size and these had to be updated.  I think this had to do with? determining the end address of a global section for the purposeh2 of making a system call to map the global section.  G 2.  We had to add LIB$ESTABLISH calls for each condition handler at the  top of each main program.a  G 3.  There were some compiler and link switch changes.  I don't remember + the details but our current FOR command is:a  F FOR/NOLIST/DEBUG/NOALIGN/CHECK=(BOUND,FP_E,OVER,NOUNDE)/WARN=(NOALIGN, NOUNINIT)/EXTEND  M We also have a tighter FORTRAN pre-compile check for recently written modules>F to enforce higher standards without having to revise all the old code:  E FOR/OPT/NOOBJ/NODEB/CHECK=ALL/NOALIGN/WARN=(NOALIGN,TRUN,DECL)/EXTENDe  A Some of the switches might not be best for you, depending on your  coding standards   our LINK is:   LINK/DEBUG/NONATIVE-  F Also, I think there were global section page alignment issues that hadJ to be addressed.  We added some declarations as padding I seem to remember >  > 1 > -----------------------------------------------  > James M. Knox 1 > TriSoft                        ph  512-385-0316B1 > 1109-A Shady Lane              fax 512-366-4331o1 > Austin, Tx 78721              jknox@trisoft.comg1 > -----------------------------------------------o   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 07:22:43 -0700% From: tadamsmar@yahoo.com (Tom Adams)t& Subject: Re: VMS to OpenVMS conversion= Message-ID: <ea44f5a1.0208140622.6e99fb8d@posting.google.com>o  g "James M. Knox" <jknox@trisoft.com> wrote in message news:<Xns92697F4D14F81jknoxtrisoftcom@10.0.0.1>...bK > Okay, please be patient.  I'm stepping into a new arena here, with a lot   > of *old* VMS experience. > J > It looks like we will be converting a large amount of software from VAX H > VMS (not OpenVMS) to AlphaServer OpenVMS.  Most of this, fortunately, A > includes the source code, but a bunch doesn't (just the binary s > application).o > I > The binary pretty much sticks us with DecMigrate and hope for the best.i > H > The other (mostly Fortran 77 source, with some Macro) we can probably @ > handle without too much trouble, although it is a LOT of code. > K > I have "Google" searched, as well as the Compaq website, and see mention  F > of "there are a lot of companies that do this" but no list of names F > (much less recommendations).  We may, for reasons to complicated to K > explain, be able to let any of these companies do the work, but we would eG > probably be very interested in paying them as consultants to help us nK > come up to speed quickly and help us with specific problems that may hit l > us.o > K > So...  Any suggestions as to who I should talk to?  And am I missing any  ( > important tools other than DecMigrate? > 2 > Suggestions, questions, warnings most welcome...  E I did a conversion in-house a few years ago.  For about 100,000 linest7 of FORTRAN source code, my old notes indicate 3 issues:   I 1. Page sizes.  There were a few locations in the code the assumed a pagel> size and these had to be updated.  I think this had to do with? determining the end address of a global section for the purposel2 of making a system call to map the global section.  G 2.  We had to add LIB$ESTABLISH calls for each condition handler at theM top of each main program.s  G 3.  There were some compiler and link switch changes.  I don't remember-+ the details but our current FOR command is:-  F FOR/NOLIST/DEBUG/NOALIGN/CHECK=(BOUND,FP_E,OVER,NOUNDE)/WARN=(NOALIGN, NOUNINIT)/EXTEND  M We also have a tighter FORTRAN pre-compile check for recently written modulesHF to enforce higher standards without having to revise all the old code:  E FOR/OPT/NOOBJ/NODEB/CHECK=ALL/NOALIGN/WARN=(NOALIGN,TRUN,DECL)/EXTEND0  A Some of the switches might not be best for you, depending on yourc coding standards   our LINK is:   LINK/DEBUG/NONATIVE3  F Also, I think there were global section page alignment issues that hadJ to be addressed.  We added some declarations as padding I seem to remember >  > 1 > -----------------------------------------------e > James M. Knoxe1 > TriSoft                        ph  512-385-0316 1 > 1109-A Shady Lane              fax 512-366-4331l1 > Austin, Tx 78721              jknox@trisoft.com,1 > -----------------------------------------------i   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:09:11 -0400z' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com>-& Subject: RE: VMS to OpenVMS conversionT Message-ID: <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF402660910@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>   Hello James,  ' Re: VAX to Alpha porting and resources-M  @ As outlined in previous responses, there are numerours resourcesC available for assisting in OpenVMS (VMS is same thing) VAX to Alphag migrations.   F HP Services offers OpenVMS VAX to Alpha migration services. In fact, I@ am currently involved in a reasonably large (10 node) VAXclusterB migration to Alpha / SAN cluster.  The internal HP group we use toB assist with migrations like VAX to Alpha have high end source codeF analysis tools that can speed up the identification of problem area's.  
 Reference:< http://www.compaq.com/iqcenter/expertise.html#application=20  H Some additional resources (in addition to the FAQ): long urls will wrap)D http://www.openvms.compaq.com/doc/ (now includes VMS V7.3-1 - scroll8 down to archived documents for VAX to Alpha information)  G http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/72final/6459/6459PRO.HTML (Migratingm1 an Application from OpenVMS VAX to OpenVMS Alpha)   F http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/docs/alpha_diary.html (Porting diary)  C Typically, one of the first steps is to conduct a 1-2 day HP VAX tonH Alpha Migration Planning workshop where all of the various issues can be$ discussed with your technical folks.  E Please contact me offline if you would like to have someone within HPs contact you.=20o   Regardsh  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  Hewlett-Packard Canada! Consulting & Integration Servicese Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax   : 613-591-4477 Email: Kerry.Main@hp.com     -----Original Message-----1 From: James M. Knox [mailto:jknox@trisoft.com]=20s Sent: August 13, 2002 1:31 PM0 To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Coms" Subject: VMS to OpenVMS conversion    H Okay, please be patient.  I'm stepping into a new arena here, with a lot   of *old* VMS experience.  J It looks like we will be converting a large amount of software from VAX=20H VMS (not OpenVMS) to AlphaServer OpenVMS.  Most of this, fortunately,=20A includes the source code, but a bunch doesn't (just the binary=20n
 application).m  G The binary pretty much sticks us with DecMigrate and hope for the best.O  H The other (mostly Fortran 77 source, with some Macro) we can probably=20> handle without too much trouble, although it is a LOT of code.  H I have "Google" searched, as well as the Compaq website, and see mention  F of "there are a lot of companies that do this" but no list of names=20F (much less recommendations).  We may, for reasons to complicated to=20H explain, be able to let any of these companies do the work, but we would  G probably be very interested in paying them as consultants to help us=20eH come up to speed quickly and help us with specific problems that may hit   us.   H So...  Any suggestions as to who I should talk to?  And am I missing any  & important tools other than DecMigrate?  0 Suggestions, questions, warnings most welcome...    / ----------------------------------------------- 
 James M. Knox / TriSoft                        ph  512-385-0316 / 1109-A Shady Lane              fax 512-366-4331C/ Austin, Tx 78721              jknox@trisoft.com1/ -----------------------------------------------    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:07:35 GMT ' From: nickerson@pundit.ds.boeing.com ()1& Subject: Re: VMS to OpenVMS conversion( Message-ID: <H0uCsn.JH6@news.boeing.com>  4 In article <hdF4VWYVj8mG@eisner.encompasserve.org>, / Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:0  F |>For ten years I have been using the TECO editor on Alpha, and it is G |>created with DECmigrate (VEST).  That happens to be a case where the  J |>source code was at hand, but the AMACRO compiler was not up to the task.  G ok for TECO; maybe ok for any totally static application; but then I've F seen very few totally static applications - and in that case I'd stillE recommend the mixed cluster approach; maybe recoding the application  D is too expensive and there's no business case, but the first time itD fails for whatever reason you have no fallback and nothing to debug;  E some additional points; do we know that AMACRO was not up to the job oB or was that just a random choice on how TECO got ported; as a veryB nice throwaway question - how did VEST do with your Ada code - we D were disappointed that Ada was not supported for binary translation;B but then again we had the source code and were trying to go with aD quick and dirty port rather than expend the effort to do it right - , so in retrospect that was all for the best;   B the one place where we experimented with VEST was on a very large C executable for which we had no insight; trying the turnkey approachE" of translate and run did not work;   --bn (Bart Nickerson)u   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 12:36:53 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)o& Subject: Re: VMS to OpenVMS conversion3 Message-ID: <K6zuwYnSrDHG@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  R In article <H0uCsn.JH6@news.boeing.com>, nickerson@pundit.ds.boeing.com () writes: > 6 > In article <hdF4VWYVj8mG@eisner.encompasserve.org>, 1 > Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:i > H > |>For ten years I have been using the TECO editor on Alpha, and it is I > |>created with DECmigrate (VEST).  That happens to be a case where the dL > |>source code was at hand, but the AMACRO compiler was not up to the task. > I > ok for TECO; maybe ok for any totally static application; but then I've H > seen very few totally static applications - and in that case I'd stillG > recommend the mixed cluster approach; maybe recoding the application  F > is too expensive and there's no business case, but the first time itF > fails for whatever reason you have no fallback and nothing to debug;  L The original poster indicated their lost code merely creates a data section.  G > some additional points; do we know that AMACRO was not up to the job aD > or was that just a random choice on how TECO got ported; as a very  E Andy Goldstein tried to use AMACRO and it was unable to duplicate thetD arcane use of the VAX registers in certain parts of the TECO source.  D For his first try with VEST, there were also problems, until use wasG made of the various "hint" capabilities it provides, giving informationrC about the nature of the program, which is code, which is data, etc.:  B Of course telling VEST that the whole program is to be interpreted? also works, but produces a translated program with unacceptable2@ performance.  (That is why the full-interpretation capability of? VEST, obvious from reading the documentation, is not called outh as a feature of the tool.)  A One can view VEST as providing a continuum of techniques, ranging(B from full emulation to full translation.  My understanding is thatB the solution for TECO ended up using full translation, but it took& use of the hint files to get it right.  D > nice throwaway question - how did VEST do with your Ada code - we F > were disappointed that Ada was not supported for binary translation;D > but then again we had the source code and were trying to go with aF > quick and dirty port rather than expend the effort to do it right - . > so in retrospect that was all for the best;   H There certainly were technical issues that led them to skip VEST supportJ for Ada, but from a product management perspective they might have figuredH that sites using Ada were the sort who use careful configuration control# and thus do not lose their sources.r  D > the one place where we experimented with VEST was on a very large E > executable for which we had no insight; trying the turnkey approachh$ > of translate and run did not work;  B Use of hints typically requires knowledge of the executable image.C In the case of TECO I believe the hints are automatically generatedA6 from the VAX listings (using a TECO macro, of course).  A The original poster's image with the missing source reportedly is 3 mostly data -- hints are not so necessary for data.a   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 07:34:26 -0700$ From: issinoho@slayme.com (issinoho) Subject: VNC install fails= Message-ID: <d0141774.0208140634.1768c522@posting.google.com>o  D Has anyone else had this problem when trying to install VNC V1.1 ...  N %VMSINSTAL-I-MOVEFILES, Files will now be moved to their target directories...P %PURGE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for $1$DIA3:[SYS0.SYSUPD.VNC333R1VMS011]VNC VIEWER.VAX_EXE;* -RMS-E-FNF, file not foundP %PURGE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for $1$DIA3:[SYS0.SYSUPD.VNC333R1VMS011]VNC PASSWD.VAX_EXE;* -RMS-E-FNF, file not foundP %PURGE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for $1$DIA3:[SYS0.SYSUPD.VNC333R1VMS011]VNC _STARTUP.COM;* -RMS-E-FNF, file not foundP %PURGE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for $1$DIA3:[SYS0.SYSUPD.VNC333R1VMS011]VNC _SYMBOLS.COM;* -RMS-E-FNF, file not foundP %PURGE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for $1$DIA3:[SYS0.SYSUPD.VNC333R1VMS011]VNC .HLP;* -RMS-E-FNF, file not foundP %PURGE-W-SEARCHFAIL, error searching for $1$DIA3:[SYS0.SYSUPD.VNC333R1VMS011]VNC VIEWER.DAT;* -RMS-E-FNF, file not foundO %DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening SYS$SYSROOT:[SYS$STARTUP]VNC_STARTUP.COM; as input- -RMS-E-FNF, file not found> %VMSINSTAL-E-IVPFAIL, The IVP for VNC333R1VMS V1.1 has failed.    )         VMSINSTAL procedure done at 15:38    It's driving me nuts!    ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 02:42:13 -0700$ From: issinoho@slayme.com (issinoho) Subject: VS3100 questionst< Message-ID: <d0141774.0208140142.c304c40@posting.google.com>  0 Is it possible to tell the following from VMS...  3 (a) Which model of VS3100 I have (10/20/30/40,etc.)t2 (b) Which graphic board is fitted (Mono, SPX, GPX)   Many thanks.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:59:42 GMToF From: lederman@star.enet.dec.DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL.com (Bart Z. Lederman) Subject: Re: VS3100 questions"1 Message-ID: <yKq69.11$l7.159882@news.cpqcorp.net>h  c In article <d0141774.0208140142.c304c40@posting.google.com>, issinoho@slayme.com (issinoho) writes:w1 >Is it possible to tell the following from VMS...t > 4 >(a) Which model of VS3100 I have (10/20/30/40,etc.)3 >(b) Which graphic board is fitted (Mono, SPX, GPX)a  8 If it's a recent version of OpenVMS, try $SHOW CPU /FULL    This is what I see on my system:   SYS_prf31b> sho cpu/fu  ! PRF31B, a VAXstation 3100-M76/SPXtH Multiprocessing is DISABLED. Uniprocessing synchronization image loaded.  ! plus some additional information.'     -- g(  B. Z. Lederman   Personal Opinions Only  8  Posting to a News group does NOT give anyone permission8  to send me advertising by E-mail or put me on a mailing  list of any kind.  5  Please remove the "DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL" if you have au5  legitimate reason to E-mail a response to this post.l   ------------------------------   Date: 14 Aug 2002 15:16:33 GMT2 From: hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam (Hoff Hoffman) Subject: Re: VS3100 questions * Message-ID: <ajds8h$gsb$2@web1.cup.hp.com>  c In article <d0141774.0208140142.c304c40@posting.google.com>, issinoho@slayme.com (issinoho) writes:a1 :Is it possible to tell the following from VMS...s :a4 :(a) Which model of VS3100 I have (10/20/30/40,etc.)  B   Please do not abbreviate system names.   Why?  Because the modelA   names are very similar.   Salient example of the confusion thatbF   can be caused by abbreviation: I will here assume that this "VS3100"F   is the "VAXstation 3100" series and not the "VAXserver 3100" series.  C   You don't have a VAXstation 3100 series model 10 nor model 20, asm>   there is no such system.  There is no particular motherboard?   difference between the model 30 and model 40, nor between thevF   model 38 and model 48, these systems were differented by the number D   of storage expansion slots and the physical size of the enclosure.C   The VAXstation 3100 model 76 had a unique motherboard and was noth.   (AFAIK) available with differing enclosures.  B   Since you don't know this already from the tag front of the box,B   you probably have a model 30 or a model 40.  If you were to look?   at the side of the box and see two horizontal rows of coolingcB   slots, you have a model 30 (or 38).  If you see three horizontal&   rows, the box is a model 40 (or 48).  A   You can use the OpenVMS command SHOW LICENSE/CHARGE to identifyN?   the processor family, then count the slots on the side of thea   box to determine the model.e  3 :(b) Which graphic board is fitted (Mono, SPX, GPX)   A   It's easiest to ask the console for this, but you probably have/C   the GPX.  (Again, the presence of the SPX graphics controller washD   usually highlighted by the presence of SPX on the tag on the front   of the box.)  C   But if you ask the console (SHOW DEVICE or SHOW CONFIG or HELP or C   such), you won't have to take the box apart.  (And you won't haverA   to trust that the actual contents of the VAXstation 3100 series-/   box matches the tag on the front of the box.)     N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------N       For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.openvms.compaq.com    N  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------L    Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoffman#xdelta.zko.dec.com   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 08:12:25 +0100C From: vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de (Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann)t$ Subject: Re: XFC 2.0 out in the wild- Message-ID: <3d59f4c9.0@news.uni-konstanz.de>a  = In article <87430e69.0208131325.30cc6c15@posting.google.com>,l6 harris.graeber@rocketmail.com (Harris Graeber) writes:   [snip]   |>$ SHOW MEMORY /FULLo |>E |>Physical Memory Usage (pages):     Total        Free      In Use   e
 |>ModifiedH |>  Main Memory (128.00Mb)           16384        2545       12216       |> 1623  |>D |>Extended File Cache  (Time of last reset: 13-AUG-2002 15:49:19.30)H |>    Allocated (Mbytes)            5.71    Maximum size (Mbytes)       	 |>  64.00dH |>    Free (Mbytes)                 0.00    Minimum size (Mbytes)       	 |>   3.12rH |>    In use (Mbytes)               5.71    Percentage Read I/Os        
 |>     97%H |>    Read hit rate                   71%   Write hit rate              
 |>      0%H |>    Read I/O count               12513    Write I/O count             	 |>    380oH |>    Read hit count                8972    Write hit count             	 |>      0lH |>    Reads bypassing cache           18    Writes bypassing cache      	 |>     16 H |>    Files cached open              413    Files cached closed         	 |>     11yH |>    Vols in Full XFC mode            0    Vols in VIOC Compatible mode	 |>      1mD |>    Vols in No Caching mode          0    Vols in Perm. No Caching
 |>mode      0e |>   Vols in Full XFC mode 0o! Vols in VIOC Compatibility mode 1P  I This is my result on a stand alone machine, too. Why doesn't it switch toa Full XFC mode??e   eberhard   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 05:34:56 -0700) From: P.Young@unsw.EDU.AU (Patrick Young)c$ Subject: Re: XFC 2.0 out in the wild= Message-ID: <55f85d77.0208140434.33565e0e@posting.google.com>   x vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de (Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann) wrote in message news:<3d59f4c9.0@news.uni-konstanz.de>... >  > Vols in Full XFC mode 0 # > Vols in VIOC Compatibility mode 1N > K > This is my result on a stand alone machine, too. Why doesn't it switch toR > Full XFC mode??e  f" Documentation change :-) for 7.3-1  I (19) Volumes in VIOC compatible mode   The number of volumes being cachedOJ by XFC that are using the VCC caching protocol. As of OpenVMS Version 7.3,# XFC uses only VCC caching protocol.e  @ (9) Volumes in Full XFC mode   Reserved for Compaq. Should be 0.  0 Very confusing for users with 7.3 documentation.  E I've installed the new patch on my 7.3 PC164 at home (but then it wass working already).t  D I like the idea of going production, however we started our academicD session two weeks ago, so will have to wait until mid session break.   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 06:18:18 -0700$ From: JKoska@bender.com (John Koska)+ Subject: Re: XFC patch for VMS 7.3 is up...i= Message-ID: <aa5ec19e.0208140518.6ba0090d@posting.google.com>:  Z p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) wrote in message news:<fTXCH$N21Tex@elias.decus.ch>...l > In article <8debc3ff.0208130531.4945f18d@posting.google.com>, ken.randell@fortel.com (Ken Randell) writes:D > > The long awaited XFC patch for VMS 7.3 is up and can be found at > > (watch for wrapping):s > > a > > http://ftp.support.compaq.com/patches/public/Readmes/vms/dec-axpvms-vms73_xfc-v0200--4.README  > > H > > Who's going to be first to put it into production and report back to > > the rest of us?g > 9 > Visions of everyone waiting for everyone else here :-) i > __ > Paul Sture
 > Switzerlandw  E Well... let me change that vision a bit.  Yesterday, I was a bit boldsD and installed the patch on 3 systems.  One standalone, and the other two in a cluster..  3 Things are still working fine this morning. <smile>t  
 John Koska Matthew Bender & Co, Inc.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:30:36 +0200V+ From: Roland Barmettler <rob@bbp.ch.remove>r+ Subject: Re: XFC patch for VMS 7.3 is up...v7 Message-ID: <20020814163036.467a4f48.rob@bbp.ch.remove>    Hi all  ; As the XFC ECO 2.0 is available, I dared to enable XFC. ;-)c) This may be a stupid question but anyway:   F Why do I get all volumes reported as still in "VIOC Compatible mode" ?  " Vols in Full XFC mode            0" Vols in VIOC Compatible mode     4   although   $ MC SYSGEN SHO VCC_FLAGS.B Parameter Name           Current    Default     Min.      Max.    
 Unit  Dynamic B --------------           -------    -------    -------   -------  
 ----  -------sA VCC_FLAGS                       2          2         0         -19 Bitmask    :   Thanks for any explanations.   Greetings, Rolandr  F --------------- bbp - Biveroni Batschelet Partners AG ----------------:              Bahnhofstrasse 28, CH-5401 Baden, SwitzerlandF ----------------------------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:14:58 +0200n9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>e+ Subject: Re: XFC patch for VMS 7.3 is up...f' Message-ID: <3D5A73F2.5F09786A@aaa.com>   6 This was answered earlier today by Patric Young. Check+ the thread "Re: XFC 2.0 out in the wild"...g  9 Short answer : "All is just fine, see the the 7.3-1 docs"s   Jan-Erik Sderholm   Roland Barmettler wrote: >  > H > Why do I get all volumes reported as still in "VIOC Compatible mode" ? > $ > Vols in Full XFC mode            0$ > Vols in VIOC Compatible mode     4 >i   ------------------------------    Date: 14 Aug 2002 10:19:39 -0600+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)x+ Subject: Re: XFC patch for VMS 7.3 is up...d3 Message-ID: <+asd4xZcgQMm@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  d In article <aa5ec19e.0208140518.6ba0090d@posting.google.com>, JKoska@bender.com (John Koska) writes:   > G > Well... let me change that vision a bit.  Yesterday, I was a bit bold F > and installed the patch on 3 systems.  One standalone, and the other > two in a cluster.n > 5 > Things are still working fine this morning. <smile>- >   G         I know it is true, but for grins could you run the following on %         the cluster and standalone.  2   $ analyze/system SDA> set output xfc_file.lists SDA> xfc XFC> show file/open/brief-	 XFC> exit-	 SDA> exit   D $ directory/file_id sysuaf   ! You may not have a logical defined...   Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]c  M SYSUAF.DAT;1         (17,1,0)                     48  11-NOV-1997 09:19:37.05n  . $ search xfc_file.list "17,1,0"   ! from above  P FFFFFFFF7BEACF30 FFFFFFFF7C05FCD0 DISK$ALPHASYS                (17,1,0)    2    3    0     22391     22353  99.83%        3         3   J         That is a standalone test alpha and as you can see I am getting a K         99.83% hit rate into sysuaf.dat (a cheat of sorts, its only ever mefG         logging in so don't get too excited).  However, this version ofnO         XFC doesn't support file open for shared write in a cluster, see slide           12 :  : http://vmsone.com/dfwdays/Presentations/Dallas_XFC2001.ppt  J         The hint for us is it doesn't in this version, however XFC versionL         x.0 futures *should* (I hope for sure).  But caching files open for B 	shared write in a cluster would be cool as the other side of the @ 	pillow.   Probably very difficult engineering work and testing.  O         All this to suggest if using XFC version 1.0 ... GLOBAL BUFFERS are an tI         option for standalone systems and necessary with clusters.  Maybet4         there is a hole in that thinking, maybe not.  #                                 Robi  : And the wind shall say:  "Here were decent godless people:>                           Their only monument the asphalt road:                           And a thousand lost golf balls."-                                 -- T.S. Eliotc   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.446 ************************allen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)o& Subject: Re: VMS to OpenVMS conversion3 Message-ID: o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    o    