1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 19 Aug 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 455       Contents:< Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha] OpenVMS conversion@ Re: Licenses (was Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha]...)) Re: New missive from HP  Re: OT: UK Universities . Re: Procedure to enlarge system name required.. Re: Procedure to enlarge system name required.( Re: TS10/VAX Updates - DELQA now worked.( Re: TS10/VAX Updates - DELQA now worked.5 Re: [very OT] Fund transfer spam: where is the issue? 5 Re: [very OT] Fund transfer spam: where is the issue? 5 Re: [very OT] Fund transfer spam: where is the issue? 5 Re: [very OT] Fund transfer spam: where is the issue?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:35:15 -0400 * From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <stan@stanq.com>E Subject: Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha] OpenVMS conversion . Message-ID: <3D5FCCC3.10372.6BE45F6@localhost>  , On 17 Aug 2002 at 4:54, Patrick Young wrote:L > > > I can't help thinking you are taking sales away from current Alpha and > > > Future Itanic products.   B Probably not much.  In fact, HP is asking resellers to stress the  Alpha version of CHARON-VAX.  I > I'm simply thinking "A Window(tm) version of the product might not be a  > good thing".  B *If* they don't install anything else on the Winbox, and just run F CHARON-VAX, it's very stable.  It's a server, not a general user box, # and should be treated the same way.   A > Dumping conversion to a Window(tm) based VAX is, well basically ? > dumping it. It still works maybe (is constrained to less than A > Window(tm) reliability - ie: stripped naked and made to perform D > like some sort of stage act), then gets forgotten about. Until the@ > Borgbots(tm) break their borgbox(tm) and it becomes an issue -/ > then it becomes a Window(tm) broken(tm) mess.   F I haven't seen this -- instead, CHARON-VAX replaces "that VAX over in E the corner of the machine room", and does exactly the same job.  I'm  E recommending that customers not plug in the network interface that's  A used by Windows.  That fixes most of the Windows vulnerabilities.   E As for "stripped naked", the whole system is usually migrated.  It's  > a 100% VMS system, complete with everything the original had:  compilers, software, etc.   @ > The OpenVMS Alpha version has no such evil overtones, and is aH > righteous and valid choice for those  making the "[VAX] VMS to [Alpha] > OpenVMS conversion".  > It's *one* choice.  Some people want Windows, because they're C comfortable with Windows.  It's been said that a devil you know is   better than one you don't.  F And some people say they'd die before installing (more) DEC or Compaq D hardware.  Now that HP owns OpenVMS, there could be less resistance  to VMS.  I have no data yet.  B > On a PC, I would like to see it running in a stripped down LINUXD > environment. IE: to the user it *is the OS* and installs as such -F > there is no user level OS between Charon-VAX and the hardware. Would= > need a nifty tool to install "off the shelf" LINUX drivers.   > SRI has toyed with CHARON-VAX on Linux.  They're working on a ? product, but no commitment on a date.  There's apparently more  F interest in Linux in Europe than the US, so far.  Part of the problem A with Linux is: which distribution?  Europe uses mostly Debian (I  & think), while the US is mostly RedHat.  ' > > I've seen very good apps shut down  T > > because they run on VMS, and the users on their third or fourth replacement for   > > the app, and not very happy.  @ We all have.  And CHARON-VAX allows the customer to run Windows C without rewriting any of the application.  Back to that "devil you  5 know" thinking.  It's silly, but a Windows box sells.   F Besides, if it runs VMS, do you care what it's really running on?  Or = are you going to ignore Itanium because you can only buy the   processor from Intel??
 --Stan Quayle ! President, Quayle Consulting Inc.   
 ----------C Stanley F. Quayle, P.E.   N8SQ   +1 614-868-1363   Fax: +1 614 868-  16711 8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147 = Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com       http://www.stanq.com    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Aug 2002 21:20:59 -0700% From: whohe@whoever.com (DL Phillips) I Subject: Re: Licenses (was Re: Charon-VAX (was: [VAX] VMS to [Alpha]...)) ; Message-ID: <af0dc2ea.0208182020.efa5d9@posting.google.com>   4 The DEC2000-300 in question was purchased before the6 UCX-TCP/IP or NET-xxx licenses were bundled. Actually,5 as I understand, they are not even now really part of 2 VMS but are just usually "packaged with" and still1 have their own PAKs. Many new systems "come with" 0 a single Adv-Server license, too, but that, too, has its own PAK.  - Many times, the "bundling" is/was done by the * reseller, but if you read the SPD's you'll. see that they are not actually "included" with1 VMS. It seems there were many convuluted packages 0 that DECpq has put together over the years. None0 of the deals seem to last very long, though, and3 try to find a sales person who understands anything  about what you get with what.   - The fact that my client has kept his software . support agreement current and if he bought the1 system today he'd probably get the TCP/IP license . with it doesn't seem to matter. He can't get a, PAK without buying it (and it'll probably be backordered:-)  3 The 2 user WinXP W/S license would be more closely  0 related to the Advanced Server licenses than the3 to VMS User license, though, I'd say, and the fact  0 that you must buy the Base license, then add the5 interactive users, and then add network user licenses 5 on top of that makes this quite expensive for a small 2 user. It doesn't matter how much more reliable and- secure and easily managed OurVMS is; it isn't  competitively priced.      -Doug    ----------------- \ John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> wrote in message news:<1020816181810.415M-100000@Ives.egh.com>...+ > On Fri, 16 Aug 2002, Brian Tillman wrote:  > I > > >Well, I've found prices, but here's a little example of why everyone K > > >in the world isn't/hasn't jumped on the VMS bandwagon. I have a client I > > >with a small Alpha (DEC 2000/300) who has kept his hardware/software G > > >agreement current. He wants to add 2 interactive users, 3 Advanced / > > >Server users, and TCP/IP TELNET & FTP now. 
 >  ...snip... 3 > > >  QL-0M2AE-AA  TCP/IP Client license. $1750.00  > > M > > Chances are, this last license is unnecessary, since TCP/IP licenses have I > > been bundled with most Alphas for some time now.  He should check his  > > shipping memo. > B > The DEC 2000/300 is old enough that it might not include TCP/IP.@ > However, our DEC 3000 Model 300, delivered at the beginning ofB > November, 1993, did come with an NAS-250 license, which included > UCX (TCPIP). > @ > The OP should also check SHOW LICENSE and LICENSE LIST/FULL to< > see if there are any loaded or disabled UCX or NET-APP-SUP@ > licenses.  (They might have been added and then disabled sinceA > they weren't being used, but still might be present and valid.)  > C > Later systems have EIS (Enterprise Integration Services) bundles, B > but I think they were a bunch of separate PAKs for each product,= > rather than a bundled PAK like NAS.  I think TCPIP Services A > (new name for UCX) still uses UCX PAKs, but maybe it uses TCPIP  > now instead? > < > Also, the two-user license seems expensive, but compare it/ > to two Windows XP Pro workstation licenses...    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 22:01:16 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>   Subject: Re: New missive from HP, Message-ID: <3D60516B.C6B795B5@videotron.ca>  & > > note from Rich Marcello that says:D > > HP and Compaq have had an historic perspective and focus on what9 > > it takes to meet customers' most demanding enterprise 1 > > requirements in the business-critical market.   N Since Compaq hasn't been around long enough in enterprise, shouldn't the above have begun with:B "HP, Digital and Tandem have had an historic perspective...." ????  G By distancing themselves from "Compaq", HP would not be weighed down by J Compaq's broken enterprise commitments. Even though it seem fairly obviousM that the Alphacide was done jointly with Carly (at least in timing), HP might H gain by distancing itself from Compaq's very poor handling of enterprise, systems over the short time it held Digital.  M I never saw Compaq as an enterprise company. Compaq was a wintel company that  was not to be trusted.  K It is ironic that when Compaq bought Digital, some of its Armani consultant M told it to shed the "Digital" trademark ASAP because it was a hindrance. Yet, K I think that today, "Digital" would have much better image than "Compaq" in 2 terms of image with regards to enterprise systems.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 14:46:16 -0700 / From: Richard Wheeldon <richard@rswheeldon.com>   Subject: Re: OT: UK Universities* Message-ID: <3D6015A8.2781@rswheeldon.com>   Fabio Cardoso wrote:2 > I am really thinking to go to Europe - even with > the floods - after October.   1 Just remember to go somewhere with hills then ;-)   5 > I was searching some UK Universities (through Yahoo ! > and www.eduacationuk.org sites)   7 Did you have any idea of which ones you were interested  in ?  7 > I am interested to go back to the studies and I think 6 > UK should is the better option. But, is there a kind1 > of "leveraging" for foreign students etc ? I am 5 > worried if I can be able to have classes in English   < Finding English coaching is easy. You'll always find someone< willing to offer language tuition as graduate students, etc.5 like to use this as an easy way of making beer money.   ; > and if my techical level is too low for UK standards. :-/   9 Depends on the university. Some (Oxford and Cambridge for 8 example) are very demanding. Others will let you in with7 next to nothing. Many also lower the entry requirements 8 for foreign students, as they have to pay higher tuition) fees so the universities get more money!!    Richard    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Aug 2002 16:53:36 -0700, From: johnellicottington@lycos.co.uk (Johno)7 Subject: Re: Procedure to enlarge system name required. = Message-ID: <6141fd50.0208181553.6ea004ab@posting.google.com>   a JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:<3D5DC3D2.3466FBAD@videotron.ca>...  > Johno wrote: > >  > > Hi > > H > > Could someone show me how write a dcl routine that will read the vmsD > > system name and then output it to the screen enlarged, say 6 x 6H > > characters in size. What I would also like is if the system name is,E > > say, VMSSYS then the first enlarged letter is made up of V's, the  > > second of M's and so on. >  > $myname = "VMSSYS" > $ESCAPE[0,8] = 27 & > $write sys$output escape,"#3",myname& > $write sys$output escape,"#4",myname > D > ESCAPE #3 writes the top half of a double width double height lineG > ESCAPE #4 writes the bottom half of double width, double height line.  > : > ESCAPE #5 will write a double width, single height line.   Thanks for the reply.   F What I had hoped was that the output on the screen would be duplicatedB on the la70 console printer but this solution does not produce theE desired result. The double height screen display is not reproduced on C the printer so I imagine its back to trying to find a dcl solution. B Other solutions suggested incorporating other programming language; routines within the dcl command procedure, are there system  requirements for this to work?   Johno    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 22:04:23 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> 7 Subject: Re: Procedure to enlarge system name required. + Message-ID: <3D605225.19D94A1@videotron.ca>    Johno wrote:H > What I had hoped was that the output on the screen would be duplicatedD > on the la70 console printer but this solution does not produce the > desired result.   K LA70 doesn't have double height characters. But if you set the spacing to 5 E characters per inch instead of 10, they magically become double width K characters :-)  (At least on the LA75, I assume the LA70 behaves the same).   K Sorry, forgot the magical invocation for setting the pitch to 5 cpi, if you = can't find it, let me know and I will retrieve my LA75 book).    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 19:00:59 -0500 (CDT) 2 From: Kevin Monceaux <OwnedByDogs@ClearSource.net>1 Subject: Re: TS10/VAX Updates - DELQA now worked. I Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.30.0208181847080.29674-100000@Linux.monceaux.com>    Tim,  J Wow, that made a difference.  Just wanted to let you know how much TS10 isC appreciated by those of us who haven't been able to acquire any VAX H hardware to run VMS on.  I downloaded the new version from your site the5 day I saw your post and have been playing ever since.   / On Wed, 14 Aug 2002 sword7@speakeasy.org wrote:    > Hello folks: > K > Good news!  We found a bug in SocketHandler function call in emu/socket.c G > file that left some unread buffer.  That cause the DELQA emulation to E > stall until any key pressed on your console terminal.  Thank you to H > Peter Svenson for report that.  I had to put 'do { ... } while (regs >G > 0);' to make ensure that any unread not left during SIGIO interrupts.  > J > After I fixed a bug, my DELQA emulation now worked very reliable withoutE > any problems.  On OpenVMS 7.2, I was able downloaded a 34 megabytes J > file into my emulator and it took 47 seconds to complete at constant 800. > KB/sec or 8 Mbps rate (Ethernet-like speed).  A TCP/IP connections appear to be working great.  I'm new to TCP/IP F configuration on VMS and have a few things to tweak on my home networkD setup so I haven't connected to the outside world from VMS yet.  I'mI connected via cable modem which is attached to an old 486 which acts as a J firewall/router/gateway.  I haven't reconfigured the masquarading setup toF include the subnet my "VAX" is on yet.  Simple enough but I'm too busyI playing with VMS.  Also, I'm new to tun/tap so there's probably something 0 with that setup that needs some adjustment also.   > K > Only I have a problem with telnet session.  I attempted to telnet into my H > emulator.  It instantly was connected but login prompt did not appear.J > I tried to type any key several times but OpenVMS did not response.  Ok,B > I looked into tcpdump monitor (tcpdump -i tap0) and noticed thatJ > endless loop ACK packets bounced forth and back at extremely high speed.E > That's why I was unable to use console terminal until I aborted the I > telnet session.  When I closed telnet session, all problems immediately  > disappeared.  H Someone mentioned that there is a bug in TCP/IP V5.0.  After finding theH workarround I can make telnet connections to my "VAX" with very reliableI results.  I've had several sessions going with no problems.  The trick is A to set the terminal type to something VMS knows.  For example, if 2 telnetting from a Linux console from a bash shell:   export TERM=vt102   I does wonders.  I hope to eventually get DECwindows running over TCP/IP to E a Linux Xserver and set up a print queue to print to a Linux attached I printer.  Anyone know if there are any howto's written on these subjects? I I think I've found all the info I need to set up DECwindows but I haven't 2 started digging for info on printing to Linux yet.   > I > However, I was able telnet and ftp outside of my emulator.  Also, I was I > able ftp into my emulator without any problem.  When I attempted to ftp E > into my emulator, OpenVMS instantly responsed with username prompt. H > I tested traceroute and ping to my emulator or via.  OpenVMS instantlyH > responsed at ping packets at approx. 1.0 ms - extremely short latency.D > On OpenVMS side, I was able ping to my machine at approx 0.026 ms. > F > On NetBSD 1.5.2 operating system, I was able telnet into my emulatorH > without any problem.  Everything worked fine with both ftp and telnet.J > I assume that a bug might be in TCPIP v5.0 (formerly UCX) that come withI > OpenVMS v7.2 operating system.  That bug does not like my Linux telnet.  > :-(  > G > Well, my latest copy of TS10 source codes was uploaded to my ftp siteV. > (ftp://ftp.firesword7.net/pub/ts10/develop). >C > Thank you. >r > -- Tim Stark >V >t   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 02:10:03 +0200V9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>i1 Subject: Re: TS10/VAX Updates - DELQA now worked.q' Message-ID: <3D60375B.D2F6BD0C@aaa.com>a   Kevin Monceaux wrote:X > : > ...and set up a print queue to print to a Linux attachedK > printer.  Anyone know if there are any howto's written on these subjects? K > I think I've found all the info I need to set up DECwindows but I haven'th4 > started digging for info on printing to Linux yet.  ; Well, if you use plain-old LPD printing, it shoudn't matter-= that is a Linux box at the other side, as long as it has a LP1? deamon running. Sheck the TCP/IP Services docs on printing, and: setup of LPD in particular.o   Jan-Erik Sderholm.s   ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 23:48:25 +0000 (UTC)a From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk> Subject: Re: [very OT] Fund transfer spam: where is the issue?+ Message-ID: <ajpbo9$h8o$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>n  W In article <3D5FC713.E6095DB1@Free.fr>, Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> writes:   >Got this today. What is behind? >s  1 One of the many variants of the Nigerian Scam see   $ http://home.rica.net/alphae/419coal/    
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University     >[quote] >Subject: GBADAMOSIh& >Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:42:43 -07004 >From: "MR ABIODUN GBADAMOSI" <gbadamosi2@email.com> >CC:   easycad@free.fr >iL >I am Mr abiodun gbadamosi, Bank Manager of chartered Bank, Lagos, Nigeria.  >pL >I have urgent and very confidential business proposition for you.On June 6,I >1997, a Foreign Oil consultant/contractor with the Nigerian printing andeQ >minting, Mr.Brian Claude made a numbered time(Fixed) Deposit for twelve calendariP >months, valued at US$30,000,000.00, (Thirty Million, us Dollars) in my branch.  >,O >Upon maturity, I sent a routine notification to his forwarding address but gothN >no reply. After a month,we sent a reminder and finally we discovered from hisO >contract employers, the Nigerian printon and milton that Mr. Brian Claude died. >from an automobile accident.  >tN >On further investigation, I found out that he died without making a WILL, andN >all attempts to trace his next of kin was fruitless. I therefore made furtherN >investigation and discovered that Mr. Claude Brian did not declare any kin orP >relations in all his official documents,including his Bank Deposit paperwork inQ >my Bank. This sum of US$30,000,000.00 has carefully been moved out of my bank toe% >a security company for safekeeping. g >oL >No one will ever come forward to claim it. According to Nigerian Law,at theL >expiration of 5 (five) years, the money will revert to the ownership of the: >Nigerian Government if nobody applies to claim the fund.  >rQ >Consequently, my proposal is that I will like you as an Foreigner to stand in asVO >the owner of the money I deposited it in a security company in two trunk boxesdP >though the security company does not know the contents of the boxes as I tagged/ >them to be photographic materials for export. l >oP >I am writing you because I as a public servant (Manager with the bank),i cannotN >operate a foreign account or have an account that is more than $1m. I want toQ >present you as the owner of the boxes in the security company so you can be ableyO >to claim them with the help of my attorney. This is simple. I will like you to,J >provide immediately your full names and address so that the Attorney willP >prepare the necessary documents which will put you in place as the as the owner >of the boxes.   >'O >The money will be moved out for us to share in the ratio of 70% for me and 30%tP >for you. There is no risk at all as all the paperwork for this transaction willM >be done by the Attorney and this will guarantees the successful execution ofI >this transaction. t >eP >If you are interested, please reply immediately via my email address or call meO >on Upon your response, I shall then provide you with more details and relevanth: >documents that will help you understand the transaction.  > N >Please observe utmost confidentiality, and rest assured that this transactionP >would be most profitable for both of us because I shall require your assistanceM >to invest my share in your country.(Buying of properties like houses, hotelsu >etc)  >oQ >Please do send me your private/mobile telephone fax number so that we can have ae >smooth communication.   >t7 >Awaiting your urgent reply via my email or telephone.   >e >Thanks and regards. e >y >Mr abiodun gbadamosii$ >Bank Manager, chartered bank  Plc.  >[end of quote]w   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 17:47:03 -0700y2 From: "Randy Park" <rjpark@mindspring.nospaam.com>> Subject: Re: [very OT] Fund transfer spam: where is the issue?2 Message-ID: <ajpf6k$ovu$1@slb6.atl.mindspring.net>  8 Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> wrote in message! news:3D5FC713.E6095DB1@Free.fr...t! > Got this today. What is behind?w > 	 > [quote]h > Subject: GBADAMOSI' > Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:42:43 -0700 5 > From: "MR ABIODUN GBADAMOSI" <gbadamosi2@email.com>y > CC:   easycad@free.fr  >hL > I am Mr abiodun gbadamosi, Bank Manager of chartered Bank, Lagos, Nigeria.   [snip]  ? This is a minor variant of a annual letter that most businessese= in the U.S. receive.  I've received it at my business addressU: probably 10 times.  It's obviously a scam, but some people< probably fall for it, because they keep on sending them out.? It looks like now they are using e-mail rather than snail mail.e   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 02:29:18 GMTe1 From: LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM (Jerry Leslie)t> Subject: Re: [very OT] Fund transfer spam: where is the issue?; Message-ID: <2KY79.66853$eK6.2282631@twister.austin.rr.com>0  . Didier Morandi (Didier.Morandi@Free.fr) wrote:! : Got this today. What is behind?  : 	 : [quote]u : Subject: GBADAMOSI' : Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 16:42:43 -0700s5 : From: "MR ABIODUN GBADAMOSI" <gbadamosi2@email.com>  : CC:   easycad@free.fr  : M : I am Mr abiodun gbadamosi, Bank Manager of chartered Bank, Lagos, Nigeria. s :  [snip of another 419 scam]  /     http://www.secretservice.gov/alert419.shtmlP<     United States Secret Service: Advance Fee Fraud Advisory  
     [snip]  G    "If you have been victimized by one of these schemes, please forwardeJ     appropriate written documentation to the United States Secret Service,H     Financial Crimes Division, 950 H Street, NW, Washington, D.C. 20223,6     or telephone (202) 406-5850, or contact by e-mail.  G     If you have received a letter, but have not lost any monies to thisN@     scheme, please fax a copy of that letter to (202) 406-5031."  D Someone in another newsgroup had this advice for emailed versions of
 the 419 scam:s  ?  "Forward it, with COMPLETE headers, to 419.fcd@usss.treas.gov.a2   Add it to your address book, saves lots of time!  D   If you haven't lost any money, insert NO LOSS in the subject line.!   No further explanation needed."l  2 --Jerry Leslie   (my opinions are strictly my own)9   Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for emailI   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2002 23:55:31 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> > Subject: Re: [very OT] Fund transfer spam: where is the issue?, Message-ID: <3D606C2A.F40A4D9E@videotron.ca>   re: Nigerian fraud scama  N This is years old. However, it was initially targetted at very large financialN institutions with what seemed to be very legal credentials. Yes, some of those institutions were "had".  N Note that it is common for a broker to request advance fees to be given to himN before he brings a new customer who has a very large deposit. And this is alsoK how most large scale scams happen, not it is not uncommon for banks to loseg much money on those.  K Once the banks got smart and immediatly disregarded the nigerian scams, thetN fraudsters started to direct their efforts at individuals and small companies.J And now, for a year or two, they have been actively spamming the internet.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.455 ************************