1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 02 Dec 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 665       Contents:6 Re: ??== PAKS, Campus License, Samba, Adavnced Server.3 Re: Cracking OpenVMS passwords with John the Ripper 3 Re: Cracking OpenVMS passwords with John the Ripper  Re: FTP with SSL for VMS/Alpha?  Re: FTP with SSL for VMS/Alpha?  Re: Future of RMS Semantics tag  Future of RMS Semantics tag  Re: Future of RMS Semantics tag  PostgreSQL for VMS SIMMs in DECpc 450ST Re: SRM for multiboot  Re: SRM for multiboot " RE: Wanted: Second hand Alpha DS10" Re: Wanted: Second hand Alpha DS10" Re: Wanted: Second hand Alpha DS10  ZIP/UNZIP of files without names$ Re: ZIP/UNZIP of files without names$ Re: ZIP/UNZIP of files without names  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 04:32:17 GMT - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> ? Subject: Re: ??== PAKS, Campus License, Samba, Adavnced Server. = Message-ID: <lnBG9.22173$kO5.3961630@news1.news.adelphia.net>    Hans Aus wrote:   E > Many thanks to everyone for the help. It seems I misunderstood the  ! > following in the Samba-VMS FAQ:  > 
 > "INTRO4. > A > ... SAMBA can be used as a client on a system with a Pathworks  	 > server.  >  > ..."  F The use of SAMBA as a client to Pathworks or Advanced Server requires D that the Server be licensed with enough concurrent user licenses as F there is no per-client license requester for the platforms that Samba 	 supports.   7 The use of SAMBA as a server requires no license packs.   ; The client and server components can be used independently.   G Advanced Server or Pathworks will be more scalable and responsive than  & SAMBA and has phone support available.   -John  wb8ytw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 04:49:44 GMT - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> < Subject: Re: Cracking OpenVMS passwords with John the Ripper= Message-ID: <IDBG9.22177$kO5.3965779@news1.news.adelphia.net>    Robert Deininger wrote:   = > In article , Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote:  > E >> 4. The vulnerability to such a tool is when people have access to  F >> unencrypted backup tapes.  At some shops that is easier to achieve 0 >> than privileged access to the running system. > 
 > Good point.   H There are legitimate uses for such tools for security audits.  They are G used to discover if users are using weak passwords such as setting the  1 system password to "XYZZY" or other obvious ones.   A IIRC: There is at least one third party security audit tool that   performs this type of check.  G If I have physical privileged access to a system, or the actual backup  = tapes, I do not need the SYSUAF passwords to access the data.    -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 00:57:55 -0500 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>< Subject: Re: Cracking OpenVMS passwords with John the Ripper/ Message-ID: <3DEAF65A.EDAD7C7C@vl.videotron.ca>    "John E. Malmberg" wrote: H > If I have physical privileged access to a system, or the actual backup? > tapes, I do not need the SYSUAF passwords to access the data.   K There may be occasions where you really want/need to have the password, and L login from a real terminal and start an application from that terminal underE that username so that all log entries are "kosher" when they start to O investigate why one hundred million dollars were transfered out of that bank...    ------------------------------   Date: 1 Dec 2002 14:00:57 -0800 + From: jaltman@columbia.edu (Jeffrey Altman) ( Subject: Re: FTP with SSL for VMS/Alpha?= Message-ID: <a51eadcf.0212011400.34a04052@posting.google.com>   : C-Kermit 8.0 now has support for OpenSSL and Compaq SSL.  N The next step is to perform the FTP port.  Anyone want to take a shot at this?      _ fdc@columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz) wrote in message news:<apurie$e7t$1@watsol.cc.columbia.edu>... 7 > In article <slrnas2p96.38v.WADE@DAX.ASUB.ARKNET.EDU>, 0 > Wade Fincher <WADE@DAX.ASUB.ARKNET.EDU> wrote:L > : Does anyone know of such a beast?  Ckermit 8 has it for unix and windows > : but not vms. > : K > Because no VMS programmers have ported the code.  The SSL/TLS part should K > be easy, since (reportedly) OpenSSL has been ported to VMS; the semi-hard B > part is adapting the C-Kermit FTP to VMS, which is beyond my VMSG > capabilities.  To do this right requires RMS, ASTs, and all the rest. G > But it would be worth doing, since the Kermit FTP client, unlike most  > others, is fully scriptable: > 2 >   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ftpscripts.html > I > Actually, this could be done in steps.  First, somebody who has OpenSSL K > installed, as well as DEC C (or maybe GCC), can try building C-Kermit 8.0 H > as it is, without including FTP, but adding SSL/TLS support.  This wayG > you get a form of secure (and optionally scriptable) Telnet.  If this G > goes smoothly, FTP could be adapted to use it, perhaps incrementally; F > a first pass would use only C library calls; subsequent passes couldI > convert to native VMS APIs for file i/o and terminal interruption. Plus E > I imagine some special measures will be needed to handle non-stream ( > files in the FTP protocol data stream. > I > There's an HTTP 1.1 client in there too that hasn't been adapted to VMS  > yet. > J > Anybody who's interested in tackling any of this, let me know.  C-Kermit > 8.0 is here: > / >   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckermit.html  > 	 > - Frank    ------------------------------   Date: 1 Dec 2002 19:10:31 -0500 & From: fdc@columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)( Subject: Re: FTP with SSL for VMS/Alpha?1 Message-ID: <ase8dn$bk4$1@watsol.cc.columbia.edu>   = In article <a51eadcf.0212011400.34a04052@posting.google.com>, , Jeffrey Altman <jaltman@columbia.edu> wrote:< : C-Kermit 8.0 now has support for OpenSSL and Compaq SSL.   : 4 As of Saturday, November 30th, you can find it here:  -   http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/ckdaily.html   J : The next step is to perform the FTP port.  Anyone want to take a shot at : this?  :  As I said previously:   G : > ... FTP could be adapted to use [the TLS-enabled C-Kermit], perhaps J : > incrementally; a first pass would use only C library calls; subsequentE : > passes could convert to native VMS APIs for file i/o and terminal H : > interruption. Plus I imagine some special measures will be needed to< : > handle non-stream files in the FTP protocol data stream.  H I imagine a C-Library-only implementation would be rather useless, sinceG it probably would not be able to cope with the many and varied VMS file I formats.  But who knows, maybe I'm too pessimistic.  If so, then the port J might be pretty simple -- just add some "rab=, fab=" clauses to the open()J calls and off we go.  The relevant module is ckcftp.c.  Best if tackled by? an experienced VMS C programmer who is also familiar with Unix.    - Frank    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 21:21:00 GMT ? From: Jim.Johnson@software-exploration.nospam.com (Jim Johnson) ( Subject: Re: Future of RMS Semantics tag0 Message-ID: <3dea7aed.20086552@news.demon.co.uk>  C Personally, I would doubt it.  RMS semantic tag support was done in E '86/'87, and was done just sufficiently well to provide DDIF support. D Even that was done over the objections of the direct line managementE (I was pushed instead to provide direct text support for DDIF -- as a F special case).  As far as I know, little to nothing has been done with it since its initial release  D Conceptually, there are a number of interesting things that could beC done, with the right sort of callers.  For instance, if executables D were marked that way, "run foo.exe" would behave like now, but "typeF foo.exe" could produce the moral equivalent of "ana/ima foo.exe".  TheC basic concepts are pretty old hat, the place RMS sits in the system D provides a few interesting possibilities.  Even then, it's somewhereD between, say, Office OLE documents and a proper object oriented file system.   8 Of course, both are much more expressive than Unix... ;)   Fwiw,  Jim.  < Speaking on my own behalf, and not representing anyone else.  , On Sun, 01 Dec 2002 04:51:47 -0500, JF Mezei( <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> wrote:  H >At a time where Digital still had some vision, they implemented the RMSK >semantics tag for files. It allowed certain files (notable DDIF) which had L >that tag to be viewed or typed by a "plug-in" (DDIF$VIEWSHR for instance). N >This is why the decwidnows mail can display DDIF documents/images even though' >it really has no support for graphics.  > N >Now, CDA was abandonned and is something nobody should bet their business on.O >But what about the RMS Semantics Tag ? Any chance that the VMS engineers might L >make this a bit more opened so that folks could add their own "plugins" for
 >viewers ? > K >By having something that is embedded into the file systems, it would allow L >many applications to benefit from the existance of a "plugin", not just theU >web browsers. It woudl also provide a single, documented "API" to implement plugins.  > L >Are there any plans to enhance this feature of RMS, or is the future reallyG >aiming for a dumbing down of the file system down to the UNIX "no file  >structure" philosophy  ?    Jim Johnson  Software Exploration, Ltd.) (remove '.nospam' from the reply address)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 04:51:47 -0500 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>$ Subject: Future of RMS Semantics tag/ Message-ID: <3DE9DBB1.C1D5A522@vl.videotron.ca>   G At a time where Digital still had some vision, they implemented the RMS J semantics tag for files. It allowed certain files (notable DDIF) which hadK that tag to be viewed or typed by a "plug-in" (DDIF$VIEWSHR for instance).  M This is why the decwidnows mail can display DDIF documents/images even though & it really has no support for graphics.  M Now, CDA was abandonned and is something nobody should bet their business on. N But what about the RMS Semantics Tag ? Any chance that the VMS engineers mightK make this a bit more opened so that folks could add their own "plugins" for 	 viewers ?   J By having something that is embedded into the file systems, it would allowK many applications to benefit from the existance of a "plugin", not just the T web browsers. It woudl also provide a single, documented "API" to implement plugins.  K Are there any plans to enhance this feature of RMS, or is the future really F aiming for a dumbing down of the file system down to the UNIX "no file structure" philosophy  ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 17:09:17 -0500  From: GcE <gce@gce.com> ( Subject: Re: Future of RMS Semantics tag+ Message-ID: <ase4fa$lp7$1@bob.news.rcn.net>   P My understanding is that Dave Cathey figured out how this worked and used it forF a compressing file system. That is, files opened with it would use hisL decompressor and get decompressed on the fly. Obviously it could be used forI encryption or some other things. It may have a limited number of types of = things supported, so not be as exetensible as one might want.   G The question might be whether any documentation exists out in user-land I (as opposed to inside VMS engineering somewhere, or buried somewhere that D even VMS engineers would have trouble finding) for how to build code) that plugs into RMS semantic tag support.    Glenn Everhart   Jim Johnson wrote:E > Personally, I would doubt it.  RMS semantic tag support was done in G > '86/'87, and was done just sufficiently well to provide DDIF support. F > Even that was done over the objections of the direct line managementG > (I was pushed instead to provide direct text support for DDIF -- as a H > special case).  As far as I know, little to nothing has been done with > it since its initial release > F > Conceptually, there are a number of interesting things that could beE > done, with the right sort of callers.  For instance, if executables F > were marked that way, "run foo.exe" would behave like now, but "typeH > foo.exe" could produce the moral equivalent of "ana/ima foo.exe".  TheE > basic concepts are pretty old hat, the place RMS sits in the system F > provides a few interesting possibilities.  Even then, it's somewhereF > between, say, Office OLE documents and a proper object oriented file	 > system.  > : > Of course, both are much more expressive than Unix... ;) >  > Fwiw,  > Jim. > > > Speaking on my own behalf, and not representing anyone else. > . > On Sun, 01 Dec 2002 04:51:47 -0500, JF Mezei* > <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> wrote: >  > I >>At a time where Digital still had some vision, they implemented the RMS L >>semantics tag for files. It allowed certain files (notable DDIF) which hadM >>that tag to be viewed or typed by a "plug-in" (DDIF$VIEWSHR for instance).  O >>This is why the decwidnows mail can display DDIF documents/images even though ( >>it really has no support for graphics. >>O >>Now, CDA was abandonned and is something nobody should bet their business on. P >>But what about the RMS Semantics Tag ? Any chance that the VMS engineers mightM >>make this a bit more opened so that folks could add their own "plugins" for  >>viewers ?  >>L >>By having something that is embedded into the file systems, it would allowM >>many applications to benefit from the existance of a "plugin", not just the V >>web browsers. It woudl also provide a single, documented "API" to implement plugins. >>M >>Are there any plans to enhance this feature of RMS, or is the future really H >>aiming for a dumbing down of the file system down to the UNIX "no file >>structure" philosophy  ? >  > 
 > Jim Johnson  > Software Exploration, Ltd.+ > (remove '.nospam' from the reply address)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 23:59:43 -0500 . From: Lyndon Bartels <lbartels@pressenter.com> Subject: PostgreSQL for VMS . Message-ID: <3DEAA26F.7A14F2E6@pressenter.com>  A Even though I'm interested in the current port of MySQL to VMS, I 5 thought I'd try my hand at porting PostgreSQL to VMS.   H I pulled down the sources, and got started on the first pass. Compiling.  > I installed the software on one of my Linux machines as a base
 reference.   I'll keep you posted.        Lyndon     --  G My opinions are mine and mine alone. They seldom align with those of my 	 employer.     H The only good thing about putting the cart before the horse is you don't have to look at the horse's butt.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 17:00:56 -0600 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>  Subject: SIMMs in DECpc 450ST % Message-ID: <3DEA94A8.28A221@fsi.net>   B Does nayone happen to know what type of SIMMs will work in a DECpcH 450ST? I don't have the doc. for this beast, so I'm hoping someone knows whether they need to be:   o parity o non-parity o FPM   E Note to comp.os.vms - sorry, I know this is off-topic, but since when  does that make a difference?   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------   Date: 1 Dec 2002 11:37:52 -0800 ! From: soterro@yahoo.com (Soterro)  Subject: Re: SRM for multiboot= Message-ID: <d5440555.0212011137.1727a2d6@posting.google.com>   ` "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message news:<3DE99088.64393142@fsi.net>...G > (Some magic, REPLY or some other broadcast) is used to send an escape @ > sequence to the PC connected to the serial console and runningJ > Reflection. That escape sequence causes the PC to execute a script whichF Uh, now I got it. Sounds feasible, but I don't have that pc... so I'll- stick to the other idea. Thanks nevertheless.    Sorin    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 04:52:53 GMT 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>  Subject: Re: SRM for multiboot2 Message-ID: <3DEAE6BD.C5AB5678@firstdbasource.com>   Soterro wrote: > b > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message news:<3DE99088.64393142@fsi.net>...I > > (Some magic, REPLY or some other broadcast) is used to send an escape B > > sequence to the PC connected to the serial console and runningL > > Reflection. That escape sequence causes the PC to execute a script whichH > Uh, now I got it. Sounds feasible, but I don't have that pc... so I'll/ > stick to the other idea. Thanks nevertheless.  >  > Sorin   F If you can find an old Decserver90TL you can connect it to the consoleF port and connect to it remotely.  Hmmmm.. I can attach the serial port8 on my Linux box to the console.. Hmmm. interesting...     H However,  Most of us running VMS don't normally run more than one OS perF machine.  With 7x2.1G disks (raid-5) I get 12GB of usable space... notG much in this day and time...  After relocating from Charlotte to KC,MO.  my box has been up 44+ days.     --   Regards,  6 Michael Austin            OpenVMS User since June 19847 First DBA Source, Inc.    Registered Linux User #261163 7 Sr. Consultant            http://www.firstdbasource.com    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 18:51:46 -0800$ From: Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com>+ Subject: RE: Wanted: Second hand Alpha DS10 0 Message-ID: <01C2996A.D5720E00@sulfer.icius.com>  A Dave may be a Limey (like me) but he's based on the west coast of  America. Florida, I think.   Shane    -----Original Message------ From: Tom Crabtree [mailto:tccrab@sunset.net] ) Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 7:22 PM  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com + Subject: Re: Wanted: Second hand Alpha DS10      Yes.E The "Big Cheese" at Island Co., a Sir David Turner, Esq., is a former  Limey.   TomC     "Mark E. Levy" wrote:  > 0 > "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message5 > news:CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKEGGGCAA.tom@kednos.com...  > > http://www.islandco.com/ > N > He said he was in the UK. Are you certain that Island has an export license? >  > > >-----Original Message----- 9 > > >From: Mike Knowles [mailto:mike@quotelinedirect.com] . > > >Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 9:16 AM > > >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com, > > >Subject: Wanted: Second hand Alpha DS10 > > >  > > >  > > >Hi  > > > K > > >Can anybody point me in the right direction for finding second hand or B > > >refurbished Compaq Alpha kit? I am based in the UK. We want aE > > >redundant server for restoration and verification of DLT backups  > > >  > > >Thanks  > > >  > > >MK  > > >  > > >---+ > > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ? > > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). F > > >Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 10/31/2002 > > >  > > --- * > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.> > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).E > > Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 10/31/2002  > >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 19:22:31 -0800 % From: Dean Woodward <deanw@rdrop.com> + Subject: Re: Wanted: Second hand Alpha DS10 ( Message-ID: <3DEAD1F7.4040201@rdrop.com>   Shane Smith wrote:C > Dave may be a Limey (like me) but he's based on the west coast of  > America. Florida, I think.  @ For extremely loose values of "west coast".  Geez, I thought us 6 'merkins were supposed to suffer from lousy geography.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 21:29:22 -0800 & From: Tom Crabtree <tccrab@sunset.net>+ Subject: Re: Wanted: Second hand Alpha DS10 * Message-ID: <3DEAEFB2.6A93677E@sunset.net>   Shane:   When did Florida move?  8 Last time I checked it was on the East Coast of the USA.H By the way Island Computer company is located in Savannah Georgia, about' 500 odd miles north of Miami Florida.      TomC   Shane Smith wrote: > C > Dave may be a Limey (like me) but he's based on the west coast of  > America. Florida, I think. >  > Shane  >  > -----Original Message-----/ > From: Tom Crabtree [mailto:tccrab@sunset.net] + > Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 7:22 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com - > Subject: Re: Wanted: Second hand Alpha DS10  >  > Yes.G > The "Big Cheese" at Island Co., a Sir David Turner, Esq., is a former  > Limey. >  > TomC >  > "Mark E. Levy" wrote:  > > 2 > > "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message7 > > news:CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKEGGGCAA.tom@kednos.com...  > > > http://www.islandco.com/ > > P > > He said he was in the UK. Are you certain that Island has an export license? > > ! > > > >-----Original Message----- ; > > > >From: Mike Knowles [mailto:mike@quotelinedirect.com] 0 > > > >Sent: Thursday, November 28, 2002 9:16 AM  > > > >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com. > > > >Subject: Wanted: Second hand Alpha DS10 > > > >  > > > > 	 > > > >Hi  > > > > M > > > >Can anybody point me in the right direction for finding second hand or D > > > >refurbished Compaq Alpha kit? I am based in the UK. We want aG > > > >redundant server for restoration and verification of DLT backups  > > > > 
 > > > >Thanks  > > > > 	 > > > >MK  > > > > 
 > > > >---- > > > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. A > > > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). H > > > >Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 10/31/2002 > > > > 	 > > > --- , > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.@ > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).G > > > Version: 6.0.410 / Virus Database: 231 - Release Date: 10/31/2002  > > >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 13:46:07 +1030 / From: Mark Daniel <Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au> ) Subject: ZIP/UNZIP of files without names 3 Message-ID: <asejeg$iao$1@fang.dsto.defence.gov.au>   L Well not completely without a name, no _name component just a _type.  UNZIP J seems to insist on removing the leading period and adding a trailing one. 6 Any comments of workarounds?  AATIA.  For instance ...  % OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-1, ODS-2 and ODS-5      $ zip -v  Copyright (C) 1990-1999 Info-ZIP% Type 'zip "-L"' for software license. 2 This is Zip 2.3 (November 29th 1999), by Info-ZIP.
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 $ unzip -vJ UnZip 5.41 of 16 April 2000, by Info-ZIP.  Maintained by C. Spieler.  SendM bug reports to the authors at Zip-Bugs@lists.wku.edu; see README for details. 
 8< snip 8<   $ dir .THIS_IS_A_TEST    Directory DKC100:[TMP]  5 .THIS_IS_A_TEST;1          0   2-DEC-2002 13:38:09.99    Total of 1 file, 0 blocks.# $ zip "-V" test.zip .THIS_IS_A_TEST &    adding: .THIS_IS_A_TEST (stored 0%) $ unzip -l test.zip   Archive:  DKC100:[TMP]TEST.ZIP;1!    Length     Date   Time    Name !   --------    ----   ----    ---- ,          0  12-02-02 13:38   .this_is_a_test$   --------                   -------#          0                   1 file  $ unzip "-V" test.zip   Archive:  DKC100:[TMP]TEST.ZIP;1   extracting: this_is_a_test WASD$ dir .THIS_IS_A_TEST    Directory DKC100:[TMP]  5 .THIS_IS_A_TEST;1          0   2-DEC-2002 13:38:09.99    Total of 1 file, 0 blocks. $ dir THIS_IS_A_TEST   Directory DKC100:[TMP]  5 THIS_IS_A_TEST.;1          0   2-DEC-2002 13:38:09.99    Total of 1 file, 0 blocks. $    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 01 Dec 2002 21:49:33 -0600 7 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.telocity.com> - Subject: Re: ZIP/UNZIP of files without names G Message-ID: <craigberry-C51448.21493201122002@news.directvinternet.com>   3 In article <asejeg$iao$1@fang.dsto.defence.gov.au>, 1  Mark Daniel <Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au> wrote:   N > Well not completely without a name, no _name component just a _type.  UNZIP L > seems to insist on removing the leading period and adding a trailing one.   E Seems to work fine with the current version of unzip.  OpenVMS Alpha   v7.3-1, ODS-5 disk.    $ create .this_is_a_test  Exit " $ zip -"V" foo.zip .this_is_a_test%   adding: .THIS_IS_A_TEST (stored 0%)  $ unzip foo.zip % Archive:  D0:[CRAIG.SCRATCH]FOO.ZIP;1 @ replace .this_is_a_test? [y]es, [n]o, [A]ll, [N]one, [r]ename: y  extracting: .this_is_a_test $ dir .this*   Directory D0:[CRAIG.SCRATCH]  % .THIS_IS_A_TEST;2   .THIS_IS_A_TEST;1    Total of 2 files.   
 $ unzip -vI UnZip 5.50 of 17 February 2002, by Info-ZIP.  Maintained by C. Spieler.    <snip>   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 14:30:48 +1030 / From: Mark Daniel <Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au> - Subject: Re: ZIP/UNZIP of files without names 3 Message-ID: <asem28$j0i$1@fang.dsto.defence.gov.au>   ( You are correct.  I just grabbed it from  5    ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/unzip.alpha_exe 3    ftp://ftp.process.com/vms-freeware/unzip.vax_exe   7 I'm embarressed I didn't check for an update first  %-}    Craig A. Berry wrote:    > In article , >  Mark Daniel  wrote: >  > N > >Well not completely without a name, no _name component just a _type.  UNZIPL > >seems to insist on removing the leading period and adding a trailing one. >  > F > Seems to work fine with the current version of unzip.  OpenVMS Alpha > v7.3-1, ODS-5 disk.  >  > $ create .this_is_a_test >  Exit $ > $ zip -"V" foo.zip .this_is_a_test' >   adding: .THIS_IS_A_TEST (stored 0%)  > $ unzip foo.zip ' > Archive:  D0:[CRAIG.SCRATCH]FOO.ZIP;1 B > replace .this_is_a_test? [y]es, [n]o, [A]ll, [N]one, [r]ename: y >  extracting: .this_is_a_test > $ dir .this* >  > Directory D0:[CRAIG.SCRATCH] > ' > .THIS_IS_A_TEST;2   .THIS_IS_A_TEST;1  >  > Total of 2 files.  >  > $ unzip -vI > UnZip 5.50 of 17 February 2002, by Info-ZIP.  Maintained by C. Spieler.    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.665 ************************