0 INFO-VAX	Mon, 04 Feb 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 67      Contents: Apache CGI Problem. * Re: compaq logo on DECwindows login screenC Re:FREE PORN!^          lpip.xezCoyc/uekf0fpn...lpip.xezCuuj/eso... < Re: Increasing free global pages/sections on OpenVMS 7.3/VAX< Re: Increasing free global pages/sections on OpenVMS 7.3/VAX< Re: Increasing free global pages/sections on OpenVMS 7.3/VAX< Re: Increasing free global pages/sections on OpenVMS 7.3/VAX Re: LICENSE/CHARGE Re: setting the record straight  Re: setting the record straight 	 Re: tcpip 6 Re: Where does VMS fit in here? (Was Re: HP admits...)6 Re: Where does VMS fit in here? (Was Re: HP admits...)6 Re: Where does VMS fit in here? (Was Re: HP admits...) WSSIZE and WSPEAK   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 03:35:48 GMT ) From: rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz (Rob Buxton)  Subject: Apache CGI Problem.2 Message-ID: <3c5e00c4.3040245051@news.wcc.govt.nz>  	 Hi Chaps,   ) I've got the following in an html script.   6 <!--#exec cmd="$@apache$root:[cgi-bin]get_time.com"-->  / The get_time script just does pretty much that.   C I've got a lot of GET html stuff working but was quite intrigued by  this approach.F It's effectively cribbed from the Release Notes. But I can't get it to work.    I get nothing back. < Turned on debug logicals and the script is not being called.E If I run the get_time.com directly from the Web Server it works fine.    What have I missed?   + Tried enabling some handlers but no change.    TIA    Rob.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 20:21:59 GMT  From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG 3 Subject: Re: compaq logo on DECwindows login screen 0 Message-ID: <00A0904E.FCDBD582@SendSpamHere.ORG>   In article <rdeininger-0302021029580001@1cust220.tnt2.nashua.nh.da.uu.net>, rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes:C >In article <20020202183557.0e62343c.roland@barmettler.net>, Roland * >Barmettler <roland@barmettler.net> wrote: >  >>--=.vZGLR?PYLLrCrU, >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII! >>Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  >> >>Hi >>, >>This may be a stupid question, but anyway:C >>Up to VMS 7.2-x there was a nice "digital" logo on the DECwindows @ >>login screen. Since 7.3 it became a rather ugly "Compaq" logo.E >>Does anybody know how to change that back ? Is it an bitmap of some ' >>sort or hardcoded into the X server ?  > I >I think it's a bitmap file, and replacing it with your own is documented I >.... somewhere.  Just guessing, look at DECW$PRIVATE_APPS_SETUP.COM, and $ >the documentation around that file. > J >The standard picture _may_ be hardwired in the code, as opposed to loadedK >out of a file, so there may not be a file anywhere with the "digital" logo 4 >in it.  If there is, the upgrade likely deletes it. > I >If you find the file, you'll likely want to keep an archive copy of both D >the "digital" one and the "Compaq" one, just in case you don't like >whatever comes next...   8 CDE$SYSTEM_COMMON:[000000.APPCONFIG.ICONS.C]DECDTLOGO.PM  G Replace this file with one of your own liking.  I've replaced mine with F a nice color Tmesis Software logo.  ftp://ftp.tmesis.com/decdtlogo.zip   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              J   "And of course, I'm a genius, so people are naturally drawn to my fiery I   intellect.  Their admiration overwhelms their envy!" -- Calvin & Hobbes    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 16:23:19 -0500 From: <wantme691@ed.ac.uk>L Subject: Re:FREE PORN!^          lpip.xezCoyc/uekf0fpn...lpip.xezCuuj/eso...9 Message-ID: <200202032123.g13LNJ408996@linux10506.dn.net>   1 FREE PORN PASSWORDS CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW NOW!!   +   http://www.innovative-e-solutions.com/tuu     ! ALL THE FREE PORN YOU CAN HANDLE!   ' CHOOSE FROM 8 GREAT SITES ALL FOR FREE!   +   http://www.innovative-e-solutions.com/tuu               I You have received this email because you subscribed to our newsletter if  F you wish to unsubscribe hit reply and you will be removed immediately!   ------------------------------   Date: 3 Feb 2002 15:07 CST' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) E Subject: Re: Increasing free global pages/sections on OpenVMS 7.3/VAX , Message-ID: <3FEB200215072744@gerg.tamu.edu>  2 Edward Brocklesby <ejb@sdf.lonestar.org> writes... }Robert Deininger wrote:H }> I'd say you've met that requirement, unless AUTOGEN is saying that it* }> failed to obey your MODPARAMS requests. } 4 }well, the values in modparams certainly seem fine..   Not necessarily, but...   G Make sure you do not have two different modparams.dat files, one in the K system specific directory (SYS$SPECIFIC:[SYSEXE]) that it is actually using J and another one in the cluster common directory (SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]) that you are editing.  A }If it helps, I've attached the output file generated by AUTOGEN.  } L }(I really have no idea what could be wrong here, so sorry if I'm not being  }particularly helpful).  }  }        -larne  } B }AUTOGEN Parameter Calculation Report on node: Nodename is Unknown< }  This information was generated at  2-FEB-2002 17:17:06.28L }  AUTOGEN was run from GENPARAMS to GENPARAMS - default execution specified } ) }** No changes will be done by AUTOGEN ** : }   The values given in this report are what AUTOGEN would  }    have set the parameters to.  D This is the important part. AUTOGEN has done exactly nothing to yourE actual parameters. It has parsed eerything and done it's calculations D and produced the reoprt. It has not changed any parameters. You needJ to specify start and end phases such that it actually sets the parameters. I'd suggest:  & $ @sys$update:autogen savparams reboot  G (You have to go through at least the SETPARAMS phase for it to actually 
 do anything.)   E To see what the actual values of the parameters are on the system, do  something like:  $ mcr sysgen SYSGEN> SHOW GBLSECTIONS SYSGEN> SHOW GBLPAGES  ^Z   (Or just SHOW GBL*, probably.)  G This gives you the totals. Check before you autogen and after you do so C and reboot and you will know if it is actually changing the totals.   G The numbers the installation manuals give are the number of free global : pages and global sections you need, rather than the total.   --- Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 16:50:09 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> E Subject: Re: Increasing free global pages/sections on OpenVMS 7.3/VAX , Message-ID: <3C5DB070.EB342713@videotron.ca>  . Not sure if you're the original poster or not.  I However, INSTALLL> LIST/GLOBAL will provide you a complete list of global 1 sections and how many pages are consumed by each.   M At the very end, there is a summary of how many global sections are used, how / many global pages used and how many are unused.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 22:22:26 +0000 . From: Edward Brocklesby <ejb@sdf.lonestar.org>E Subject: Re: Increasing free global pages/sections on OpenVMS 7.3/VAX A Message-ID: <jOi78.7526$XS6.816048@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>    Carl Perkins wrote: F > This is the important part. AUTOGEN has done exactly nothing to yourG > actual parameters. It has parsed eerything and done it's calculations F > and produced the reoprt. It has not changed any parameters. You needL > to specify start and end phases such that it actually sets the parameters.  G doh. that was the exact problem :) after running autogen properly it's  E installed fine. (i thought it would be something obvious like this :)   % Thanks the both of you for your help.            -larne   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 17:32:51 -0500  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>E Subject: Re: Increasing free global pages/sections on OpenVMS 7.3/VAX / Message-ID: <1020203170347.16223B@Ives.egh.com>   " On 3 Feb 2002, Carl Perkins wrote:  4 > Edward Brocklesby <ejb@sdf.lonestar.org> writes... > }Robert Deininger wrote:J > }> I'd say you've met that requirement, unless AUTOGEN is saying that it, > }> failed to obey your MODPARAMS requests. > } 6 > }well, the values in modparams certainly seem fine.. >  > Not necessarily, but...  > I > Make sure you do not have two different modparams.dat files, one in the M > system specific directory (SYS$SPECIFIC:[SYSEXE]) that it is actually using L > and another one in the cluster common directory (SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]) that > you are editing. > C > }If it helps, I've attached the output file generated by AUTOGEN.  > } N > }(I really have no idea what could be wrong here, so sorry if I'm not being  > }particularly helpful).  > }  > }        -larne  > } D > }AUTOGEN Parameter Calculation Report on node: Nodename is Unknown> > }  This information was generated at  2-FEB-2002 17:17:06.28N > }  AUTOGEN was run from GENPARAMS to GENPARAMS - default execution specified > } + > }** No changes will be done by AUTOGEN ** < > }   The values given in this report are what AUTOGEN would" > }    have set the parameters to. > F > This is the important part. AUTOGEN has done exactly nothing to yourG > actual parameters. It has parsed eerything and done it's calculations F > and produced the reoprt. It has not changed any parameters. You needL > to specify start and end phases such that it actually sets the parameters. > I'd suggest: > ( > $ @sys$update:autogen savparams reboot > I > (You have to go through at least the SETPARAMS phase for it to actually  > do anything.)  > G > To see what the actual values of the parameters are on the system, do  > something like:  > $ mcr sysgen > SYSGEN> SHOW GBLSECTIONS > SYSGEN> SHOW GBLPAGES  > ^Z >   > (Or just SHOW GBL*, probably.)  . Wildcards don't work on VAXes, only on Alphas,  > You've been specifying MIN_GPLPAGES and MIN_GBLSECTIONS.  Most= likely current values (revealed by the sysgen commands above) : are greater than the MIN_ values you've specified (they're( fairly small) so they'll have no effect.  > You should be specifying ADD_GBLPAGES=65 and ADD_GBLPAGES=8000= (if those were the numbers specified by the TCP/IP docs), run = autogen and reboot.  Since you've rebooted several times, you < probably don't have valid feedback (at least 24 hours uptime@ under a typical workload), so I would not use feedback (starting7 at savparams) at this point.  I would start at GETDATA:   %  $ @sys$update:autogen getdata reboot   < Then, after a couple of days, remove the ADD_* commands from< MODPARAMS.DAT, and run autogen again with feedback to let it tune things:  '  $ @sys$update:autogen savparams reboot    > I > This gives you the totals. Check before you autogen and after you do so E > and reboot and you will know if it is actually changing the totals.   ; I have a little command file I use to record all the sysgen C settings before and after autogen'ing, so I fix things if something @ bad happens.  (You can just revert VAXVMSSYS.PAR, but this tells what really happened.)   $ type x.com $ MCR SYSGEN USE current  SHOW/ALL SHOW/SPECIAL EXIT  7 Before autogen, I do @x/out=old.lis and afterwards I do = @x/out=new.lis, and then I can diff the two .lis files if I'm " suspicious of any changes it made.  I > The numbers the installation manuals give are the number of free global < > pages and global sections you need, rather than the total.  ; You could reduce the numbers in the ADD_GBL* entries by the < amount currently free, but other things may also need globalA sections.  By setting the ADD_ values to the numbers specifically = needed by TCP/IP, you are keeping the current cushion intact.   
 > --- Carl   --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 21:17:14 -0500% From: "John Vottero" <John@mvpsi.com>  Subject: Re: LICENSE/CHARGE / Message-ID: <u5rrpdhopgl725@news.supernews.com>   K Here's a link to Compaq's Software reference material.  I couldn't find the  ES45!   @ http://www.compaq.com/products/software/info/refmat/swl_ref.html    . "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message3 news:CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIMECAEBAA.tom@kednos.com... / > Is there a site which displays the results of  > $ SHOW LICENSE/CHARGE " > for all the differnet platforms? > H > In particular, I am interested in ES40,45. which if someone could post > would be much apreciated.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 12:33:24 -0800 ' From: David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu> ( Subject: Re: setting the record straight+ Message-ID: <3C5D9E94.2574FFCE@caltech.edu>    "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:  > 4 > "JF Mezei" <jfmezei@videotron.ca> wrote in message( > news:3C5AD30B.B4FBE467@videotron.ca...; > > "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com>  wrote: . > >  Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation > > M > > > OK.  We've hit the bottom.  Bill and JF now have now trotted out Nazi's  > and 8 > > > genocide.  Need these threads continue any longer? > > > M > > > Bill, until you actually become a customer... flake off.  JF... go with  > him. > >  > > G > Most of the comp.os.vms constituency is in violent agreement that VMS L > marketing leaves a lot to be desired. Given that CPQ isn't going to hire a' > VMS Blimp to fly over the Super Bowl    E I'm not so sure - flying a blimp over this year's Super Bowl would be = very much the way the Q would advertise VMS. For those of you ; unfamiliar with the stadium in question be advised that the ( Louisiana Superdome is a roofed stadium.   Regards,   David Mathog mathog@caltech.edu   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 20:37:46 GMT 4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>( Subject: Re: setting the record straight= Message-ID: <uch78.26358$%h1.9326984@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>   4 "David Mathog" <mathog@caltech.edu> wrote in message% news:3C5D9E94.2574FFCE@caltech.edu...  > "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:  > > 6 > > "JF Mezei" <jfmezei@videotron.ca> wrote in message* > > news:3C5AD30B.B4FBE467@videotron.ca...= > > > "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com>  wrote: 0 > > >  Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation > > > H > > > > OK.  We've hit the bottom.  Bill and JF now have now trotted out Nazi's > > and : > > > > genocide.  Need these threads continue any longer? > > > > J > > > > Bill, until you actually become a customer... flake off.  JF... go with > > him. > > >  > > > I > > Most of the comp.os.vms constituency is in violent agreement that VMS L > > marketing leaves a lot to be desired. Given that CPQ isn't going to hire a ( > > VMS Blimp to fly over the Super Bowl > G > I'm not so sure - flying a blimp over this year's Super Bowl would be ? > very much the way the Q would advertise VMS. For those of you = > unfamiliar with the stadium in question be advised that the * > Louisiana Superdome is a roofed stadium.   Touche, David! ;-}  K Superdome is also the nom de plume of HP's enterprise server. Here's hoping B that CPQ doesn't call its Marvel enterprise server CMGI Stadium...   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 23:30:59 GMT ) From: rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz (Rob Buxton)  Subject: Re: tcpip2 Message-ID: <3c5dc6ee.3025439832@news.wcc.govt.nz>  @ On Sat, 2 Feb 2002 07:46:42 -0800, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote:  J >I often access nodes in our cluster using putty on a W2K box.  One of the >nodesJ >runs UCX (TCPIP V4.2) on 7.1-2 and another 5.1 on 7.3  I thought I was on >theD >latter and typed TCPIP, but I was on the former .  It printed out a >TCPIPtrace M >of XMT and RCV packets.  $ TC also works and a search of the system revealed 3 >nothing, I looked for logicals or files named tc*.  > M >Where does this come from?  Something like the unix 'which' command would be  >nice. > D The main difference here between Unix and Vms is that VMS allows you to shorten commands.  C With TCPIP V5 the Verb TCPIP was intoduced which points to the same  image as the old UCX verb. There's also the Verb TCPTRACE.   B Problems arise when a Verb is shortened to the point of ambiguity.D So, TCP can point to TCPtrace or TCPip on a TCPIP V5 system but only# TCPtrace on the old UCX V4 Systems.   E Just simple Help will allow you to identify most commands set up. The > Verb utility allows you to interrogate teh DCLTables directly.   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2002 17:36:42 -0500  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>? Subject: Re: Where does VMS fit in here? (Was Re: HP admits...)u6 Message-ID: <1020203173533.16223C-100000@Ives.egh.com>  $ On 3 Feb 2002, Peter da Silva wrote:  I > In article <a3bc69$3kf$1@bob.news.rcn.net>,  <jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote:iE > > Portable???!!!  What are you talking about?  The purpose of an OSe1 > > is to deliver computing services to the user.e > Q > The purpose of the OS is to manage resources on behalf of application programs.  > P > A portable OS is one that provides the same abstraction on multiple platforms. > O > The implementation may be slightly or even significantly different, depending-J > on the hardware design and how the OS is laid out... but there's a clearM > advantage to not making people rewrite their apps every time they get a new: > computer.r > N > Of course if you're the hardware manufacturer, having the apps be an barrier+ > to your customers leaving you is a bonus.e >   D Think of it as a roach motel.  You want it to be easy to migrate in, but hard to migrate out.  ;-)g   > -- o- >  `-_-'   In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva.dG >   'U`    "A well-rounded geek should be able to geek about anything."tN >                                                        -- nicolai@esperi.org >          Disclaimer: WWFD? >  >    -- e John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 22:36:11 GMT 4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>? Subject: Re: Where does VMS fit in here? (Was Re: HP admits...)c= Message-ID: <vXi78.26392$%h1.9391098@typhoon.ne.mediaone.net>A  - "John Santos" <JOHN@egh.com> wrote in messaged0 news:1020203173533.16223C-100000@Ives.egh.com...& > On 3 Feb 2002, Peter da Silva wrote: >rK > > In article <a3bc69$3kf$1@bob.news.rcn.net>,  <jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote:nG > > > Portable???!!!  What are you talking about?  The purpose of an OS?3 > > > is to deliver computing services to the user.I > >oI > > The purpose of the OS is to manage resources on behalf of applicationo	 programs.a > >>G > > A portable OS is one that provides the same abstraction on multiplei
 platforms. > >.G > > The implementation may be slightly or even significantly different,g	 depending L > > on the hardware design and how the OS is laid out... but there's a clearK > > advantage to not making people rewrite their apps every time they get a  newh
 > > computer.s > >lH > > Of course if you're the hardware manufacturer, having the apps be an barrier - > > to your customers leaving you is a bonus.  > >  >oF > Think of it as a roach motel.  You want it to be easy to migrate in, > but hard to migrate out.  ;-)I  2 Welcome to the Hotel California for your apps! ;-}   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 03 Feb 2002 23:53:26 GMTe1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>o? Subject: Re: Where does VMS fit in here? (Was Re: HP admits...)0' Message-ID: <3C5DCEB0.3AEBFFCC@fsi.net>c   "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:o > / > "John Santos" <JOHN@egh.com> wrote in messagee2 > news:1020203173533.16223C-100000@Ives.egh.com...( > > On 3 Feb 2002, Peter da Silva wrote: > >bM > > > In article <a3bc69$3kf$1@bob.news.rcn.net>,  <jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote: I > > > > Portable???!!!  What are you talking about?  The purpose of an OSd5 > > > > is to deliver computing services to the user.  > > >-K > > > The purpose of the OS is to manage resources on behalf of application6 > programs.  > > >:I > > > A portable OS is one that provides the same abstraction on multipleg > platforms. > > >1I > > > The implementation may be slightly or even significantly different,O > depending N > > > on the hardware design and how the OS is laid out... but there's a clearM > > > advantage to not making people rewrite their apps every time they get au > newo > > > computer.  > > > J > > > Of course if you're the hardware manufacturer, having the apps be an	 > barrieru/ > > > to your customers leaving you is a bonus.t > > >  > >-H > > Think of it as a roach motel.  You want it to be easy to migrate in,! > > but hard to migrate out.  ;-): > 4 > Welcome to the Hotel California for your apps! ;-}   <music>D$ You can check out any time you like, but you can never leave! </music> -- w David J. Dachterae dba DJE Systems> http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/A   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 14:04:09 +1030o/ From: Mark Daniel <Mark.Daniel@wasd.vsm.com.au>v Subject: WSSIZE and WSPEAK/ Message-ID: <3C5E0131.12250FB3@wasd.vsm.com.au>S  H These seem slightly counter-intuitive to me (which probably merely means> I just don't understand what they represent).  Alpha VMS V7.3.  ) Here's a (freshly spawned sub)process ...f   WSPEAK: 2112 WSSIZE: 3568  % Activate a significant executable ...r   WSPEAK: 9736
 WSSIZE: 13168e   Control-Y + STOP   WSPEAK: 9504 WSSIZE: 3568  " Why does WSPEAK not peak at 13168?B When an image is activated WSSIZE always seems larger that WSPEAK.E Even when I try and factor in the process' global page count it stillN doesn't seem to add up.n   Explanation anyone?  AATIA.w   -- d# Non sinere illegitamus carborundum.v   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.067 ************************