0 INFO-VAX	Sun, 17 Feb 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 93      Contents: Re: Couple of Questions  Re: Couple of Questions  Re: Couple of Questions  CXX install problem ? Re: Hello Compaq!  What happens to us VMS users if Itanic dies?  Re: Mount disk at startup? Re: Mount disk at startup?& Re: OT: Proliant DL and DS-10 cabinets& Re: OT: Proliant DL and DS-10 cabinets& Re: OT: Proliant DL and DS-10 cabinets Re: Proposal - Hobbyist FAQ  Re: VXT2000  Re: VXT2000 - RE: What is the best NFS package for OpenVMS? - Re: What is the best NFS package for OpenVMS?  Re: XP 1000 won't boot Re: [off-topic] eighty et al...   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 23:37:02 +0000 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>   Subject: Re: Couple of Questions* Message-ID: <3C6EED1E.D80F10D6@virgin.net>   William Barnett-Lewis wrote:  H > Need? Nothing. Still the hoot value of running Wordstar on a Vax would > be high for me.  >   L There actually was a licensed WordStar clone for VMS once upon a time. Might8 just possibly have a copy kicking around on an old TK50.     --
 Alan Greig   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 00:15:30 GMT 0 From: William Barnett-Lewis <wlewis@mailbag.com>  Subject: Re: Couple of Questions+ Message-ID: <3C6EF616.82FEB786@mailbag.com>    Alan Greig wrote:  >  > William Barnett-Lewis wrote: > J > > Need? Nothing. Still the hoot value of running Wordstar on a Vax would > > be high for me.  > >  > N > There actually was a licensed WordStar clone for VMS once upon a time. Might: > just possibly have a copy kicking around on an old TK50. >  > -- > Alan Greig  H Really? That would be fun to use. For practical value, I'll be the firstH to admit that Decwrite is actually quite nice, but it would be enjoyable0 to run a version of Wordstar on this Vaxstation.   William  --  * You better watch out    What you wish for;+ It better be worth it   So much to die for. -                                 Courtney Love    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:22:32 -0500 ' From: Glenn Everhart <Everhart@gce.com>   Subject: Re: Couple of Questions' Message-ID: <3C6F21F8.C7C459C0@gce.com>   N On freeware Cd look in the sigtape stuff directory for AnalyRim, an integratedP spreadsheet and dbms. Uses a text interface (use decwindow terminal windows) but
 does work.  F There are others. XESS is one that costs money. Depends what you want.0 DEC published a couple spreadsheets too for VMS.   Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote: > ` > In article <3C6E7C56.E50A1A76@mailbag.com>, William Barnett-Lewis <wlewis@mailbag.com> writes:I > >I recently got my hands on a copy of the June 1997 SPL for VMS 7.1 and * > >was wondering about a couple of things: > > * > >1) Will Posix 3.0 work on a 7.2 system? >  > Dunno. > ? > >2) Does it require a separate PAK from the operating system?  > 
 > IIRC no. > 3 > >3) Is is still possible to get a PAK for SoftPC?  >  > AFAIK, no.D > But you don't want SoftPC at all. If it idles, then with 100% CPU.4 > SoftWindows (Alpha only) was only slightly better.B > And what DOS/Win16 programs do you want/need to run on OpenVMS ? > 0 > >4) Is there a spread sheet available for VMS? > , > Yup. Start with XESS at http://www.ais.com >  > --> > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 81111 2651= > Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1 81111 888 > > KAPSCH AG      Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail  eplan@kapsch.netJ > A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist"   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2002 00:36:42 GMT 0 From: William Barnett-Lewis <wlewis@mailbag.com> Subject: CXX install problem+ Message-ID: <3C6EFB0E.9DBD5D2B@mailbag.com>   E I downloaded cxx056c for Vax from the Compaq web site. I have running G Hobbyist VMS 7.2 and have C 6.0-001 from that distribution installed. I F have also installed and loaded the PAK for CXX.  However, when I go toH run vmsinstal, it grinds for a bit, says the release notes are installedG in sys$help and grinds a bit more, printing out the copywright notice.     Then I get:   + %system-f-nologname, no logical name match  * %system-f-nologname, no logical name match* %system-f-nologname, no logical name match? %vmsinstal-e-install, The installation of CXX V5.6 has failed.    B And I'm back at the DCL prompt. I tried redownloading the file andH trying to install an earlier version (from the June 1997 SPL I have) andE have gotten the same results each time. I did not see anything in the 6 release notes that gave me any more of a clue either.    Any hints greatly appreciated.   Thanks,  William  --  * You better watch out    What you wish for;+ It better be worth it   So much to die for. -                                 Courtney Love    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 14:12:54 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> H Subject: Re: Hello Compaq!  What happens to us VMS users if Itanic dies?, Message-ID: <3C6EAF34.F19F21B9@videotron.ca>   Rob Young wrote:A >         You should not break out each and every division within F >         a company or your competition knows just how strong you are,H >         what your growth is year to year allowing them to adjust theirF >         strategy.  It is not uncommon in this industry and others toL >         put out false information in the hopes your competitors will spendB >         resources (in the end money) on wrong ideas, directions.   Enron used the same philosophy.   M The problem is that for a publicly traded company, such a practice is illegal  due to SEC rules.   C If I were an HP shareholder, I would require HP/Compaq disclose the N Compaq-Intel agreement that led to the murder of Alpha before I would considerE allowing HP to buy Compaq. What exactly is HP buying and what sort of ! commitments will HP be bound to ?   K Secondly, if I were an HP shareholder, listening to Carly say that she will K preserve Compaq's wintel server business, I would require that Compaq break K out the financials for the wintel server business separately from the rest.   M What if the compaq wintel server business was a big money loser and HP wanted L to keep that part instead of keeping the profitable part ? As a shareholder,+ shouldn'I be allowed to see those numbers ?     N Of course, most shareholders don't know that Compaq has been doing an Enron byL artificially making the wintel server business look better than it really isJ by including the VMS/Tru64/Tandem profits with the wintel server business.  K The irony is that Compaq will do to HP what Digital did to Compaq: slow its I down to oblivion because the new owner refuses to focus on the profitable H "legacy" product prefering to focus on the "product of the future" whose( future never comes (same goes for IA64).   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 16:26:02 -0500 ( From: David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com># Subject: Re: Mount disk at startup? , Message-ID: <3C6ECE6A.8010403@tsoft-inc.com>   William Barnett-Lewis wrote:  H > Ok, how do I mount a second or third disk at startup? The system comesG > up fine and "show dev" displays all the drives, but lists all but the E > startup disk as online but not as mounted. Can I simply put a mount B > command in the systartup_vms.com file? Or is there a more subtleD > incantation needed? I've had no luck in looking through the systemG > manager manual for this, though if I read past it, a pointer is fine.  > 	 > Thanks,  > 	 > William  >   B Mount your disks as follows, either in SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM, another G command file invoked by SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM, or in subsequent batch jobs  I that are part of system startup.  (Note, there are advantages to keeping  D SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM minimal, doing just what's required for a running E system, and then doing the rest of the start-up processing in one or  F more batch jobs.  Of course, starting the batch queue will have to be  done in SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM.)    $! Mount public disks here $  $ wso "  mount public disks"' $ mount /system /noassist DKA100: DISK1   D Note the /NOASSIST switch.  This is highly recommended.  Otherwise, L you'll need to hire operators 24 x 7 to assist with any mount problems.  :-)  F Also define logical names for all disks.  Then reference the disks by I the logical names.  This allows the physical disks to change, but for it  " to be transparent to applications.   $! Define disk logical names $  $ wso "  define disk names" " $ define /system /exec DISK0 DKA0:$ $ define /system /exec DISK1 DKA100:$ $ define /system /exec DISK2 DKA200:$ $ define /system /exec DISK3 DKA300:$ $ define /system /exec DISK4 DKA400:$ $ define /system /exec DISK5 DKA500:$ $ define /system /exec DISK6 DKA600:   Dave   --  4 David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04504 Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596> DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com6 T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 23:24:34 -0000 = From: "David McKenzie" <david.mckenzie@spitfire0.demon.co.uk> # Subject: Re: Mount disk at startup? A Message-ID: <1013901938.8989.0.nnrp-10.c1edba74@news.demon.co.uk>   K My favorite topic. also the /norebuild qualifier is very good. Rebuild them I later, otherweise after a crash startup will be painfully slow. Also in a G wide area cluster if you have shadowed disks make sure the logical that L points to the license database is already defined, preferably if sylogicals,+ otherwise the shadowed disks may not mount.   K Now in a wide area cluster where you may have moved the license database to H a shadowed non-system disk you must be careful, otherwise you may end upJ trying to mount the disk that has the license database before you have the$ license to mount a shadowed disk :-)      5 "David Froble" <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote in message & news:3C6ECE6A.8010403@tsoft-inc.com... > William Barnett-Lewis wrote: > J > > Ok, how do I mount a second or third disk at startup? The system comesI > > up fine and "show dev" displays all the drives, but lists all but the G > > startup disk as online but not as mounted. Can I simply put a mount D > > command in the systartup_vms.com file? Or is there a more subtleF > > incantation needed? I've had no luck in looking through the systemI > > manager manual for this, though if I read past it, a pointer is fine.  > >  > > Thanks,  > >  > > William  > >  > C > Mount your disks as follows, either in SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM, another H > command file invoked by SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM, or in subsequent batch jobsJ > that are part of system startup.  (Note, there are advantages to keepingE > SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM minimal, doing just what's required for a running F > system, and then doing the rest of the start-up processing in one orG > more batch jobs.  Of course, starting the batch queue will have to be  > done in SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM.)  >  > $! Mount public disks here > $  > $ wso "  mount public disks") > $ mount /system /noassist DKA100: DISK1  > E > Note the /NOASSIST switch.  This is highly recommended.  Otherwise, I > you'll need to hire operators 24 x 7 to assist with any mount problems.  :-)  > G > Also define logical names for all disks.  Then reference the disks by J > the logical names.  This allows the physical disks to change, but for it$ > to be transparent to applications. >  > $! Define disk logical names > $  > $ wso "  define disk names" $ > $ define /system /exec DISK0 DKA0:& > $ define /system /exec DISK1 DKA100:& > $ define /system /exec DISK2 DKA200:& > $ define /system /exec DISK3 DKA300:& > $ define /system /exec DISK4 DKA400:& > $ define /system /exec DISK5 DKA500:& > $ define /system /exec DISK6 DKA600: >  > Dave >  > --6 > David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04506 > Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596@ > DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com8 > T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486 >    ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 17:22:25 -0800 (PST) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>/ Subject: Re: OT: Proliant DL and DS-10 cabinets @ Message-ID: <20020217012225.24625.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com>   Peter   & Alpha is (almost) DEAD !!!! You should/ accept this, like VAX are dead for a long time. ( I dont know why people insist on this...    1 May be you can run OpenVMS in these Itanium blade 1 servers in two years !!!! Sound goods think about 3 Itanium blade servers for industrial automation and  clustering.      Regards      FC  / --- Peter LANGSTOEGER <eplan@kapsch.net> wrote: / > In article <14FEB200222521817@gerg.tamu.edu>, + > carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) writes: 
 > >In article  > 5 <20020214183741.15798.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com>, 4 > Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> writes...6 > >}Just an personal opinion to the engineering people/ > >}at Compaq which develops these 1U servers..  > >}  . > >}We are instaling a Beowulf cluster with 32
 > Proliant0 > >}DL servers and what mess of cables....power, > >}network and storage (FC).  > >}  0 > >}Why dont Compaq use a "backplane" as used by) > >}the DNPG products - ex-DEC products ?  > >}  6 > >}These DL and DS server should have the possibility > to3 > >}install a backplane. Each 5, 10 for example....  > > 6 > >Perhaps you should have gone with the new BL series > Proliants.5 > >They are the new "Blade" type system which fits 20  > sinlge2 > >processor (700MHz at the moment) systems into a > single 3U  > >rack mount enclosure. > 0 > Are they Alphas ? Can we run OpenVMS on them ?$ > If not, then I'm not interested... >  > --  3 > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1  > 81111 26513 > Network and OpenVMS system manager  Fax.    +43 1  > 81111 888 - > KAPSCH AG      Wagenseilgasse 1     E-mail   > eplan@kapsch.net0 > A-1121 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              "I'm not a > pessimist, I'm a realist"      =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?2 Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com    ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 17:24:52 -0800 (PST) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>/ Subject: Re: OT: Proliant DL and DS-10 cabinets @ Message-ID: <20020217012452.35691.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com>   Carl  0 You asked me before.... we bought the DL servers- because  in the time we asked for them Compaq - was not announcing the Blade servers, and the * DL are needed because we need two disks in) the machine. The Beowulf will be used for ' cientifc purposes - no network latency.    Regards     , --- Carl Perkins <carl@gerg.tamu.edu> wrote: > eplan@kapsch.net writes...0 > }In article <14FEB200222521817@gerg.tamu.edu>,+ > carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) writes:  > }>In article > 5 <20020214183741.15798.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com>, 4 > Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> writes...0 > }>}Just an personal opinion to the engineering > people0 > }>}at Compaq which develops these 1U servers.. > }>} / > }>}We are instaling a Beowulf cluster with 32 
 > Proliant1 > }>}DL servers and what mess of cables....power,  > }>}network and storage (FC). > }>} 1 > }>}Why dont Compaq use a "backplane" as used by * > }>}the DNPG products - ex-DEC products ? > }>} + > }>}These DL and DS server should have the  > possibility to4 > }>}install a backplane. Each 5, 10 for example.... > }>0 > }>Perhaps you should have gone with the new BL > series Proliants. 6 > }>They are the new "Blade" type system which fits 20 > sinlge3 > }>processor (700MHz at the moment) systems into a  > single 3U  > }>rack mount enclosure.  > } 1 > }Are they Alphas ? Can we run OpenVMS on them ? % > }If not, then I'm not interested...  > }  > }-- 4 > }Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER           Tel.    +43 1 > 81111 2651 >  > Of course not. > 6 > Neither are the systems (Proliant DL series) he said > they were  > using. > 2 > On the other hand, the "next next" generation of > Alpha systems 3 > (i.e. the one after Marvel) will probably includeb
 > something a02 > lot like them - or, at least, a lot like the way > "them" will be > when that time comes.  > 
 > --- Carl     =====b ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?2 Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 20:43:37 -0500c- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> / Subject: Re: OT: Proliant DL and DS-10 cabinets-, Message-ID: <3C6F0AC3.B6CFCDF5@videotron.ca>   Fabio Cardoso wrote:3 > May be you can run OpenVMS in these Itanium bladei > servers in two years !!!!     N Right now, "blade" servers are just 8086s mounted in the same rack. No special= interconnect. Nothing special except they take up less space.s   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 21:09:25 +0100  From: Brass <welcome@spam.net>$ Subject: Re: Proposal - Hobbyist FAQ' Message-ID: <3C6EBC75.66EF104@spam.net>-   William Barnett-Lewis wrote: >  > Hello, > C > Reading Mark Reddings experiences and pondering my own trials andeE > tribulations as a Vax and VMS hobbyist/newby, I got to wondering if1J > maybe the time isn't ripe for a Hobbyist specific FAQ. While much of theH > information that the Hobbyist needs is available in places like Hoff'sH > OpenVMS FAQ, there are still some headaches and gotchas that should be > addressed some place.S > H > There is a short FAQ at http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/faq.html thatI > would be a good place to start. Other things I'd like to see mentioned:c > G > 1) pointers to basic user tutorials - several good ones exist, but is,J > there a basic tutorial on the VMS HELP system? It's a great and powerfulG > system, but in it's own way it can be just as cryptic as the Unix man H > system. Also pointers to various programming resources would be good -I > like the link to the Bliss for C programmers document that was recently3J > posted or a tutorial on how to use Forms (since it's on the hobbyist PAKF > list.) A pointer to the fact that a single user developer version ofF > Oracle Rdb for both VAX and Alpha is available for download from the/ > Oracle Technical Net for a free registration.t > C > 2) pointers to what hardware documentation exists - trying to putsG > together an uptodate list of known good CD-ROM drives would be a nice J > thing. A listing of the basic information about common hobbyist machinesJ > - the VAX stations, the MVs, the various Alpha workstations - would alsoE > be good. Most of the information is scattered all over creation andwG > seems to concentrate on the bigger systems. A reminder that a Vax can7E > sit on a desktop and not need a basement might not be out of place. H > Much of the good hardware information on the web has been put togetherI > by the NetBSD folks and there emphasis and needs are different from thel > VMS hobbyist.e > G > 3) basic system management - for example how to create a user account J > that has sufficient privileges to mount a cd without having to log in asH > system. Not being VMS savvy I'm still not sure if I have that right. AD > tutorial on how to set logical names for foreign executables (i.e.I > Unzip) in the login.com. A tutorial on how to use Backup, especially if1I > all you have is a second disk and no tape device or how to do a restore-H > of a non-image saveset to it's original directory structure. A listingI > of _what_ all the software is that is available on the layered productsmJ > PAKS - while all the VMS experienced folks may know what ACMS or GKS is,H > it took me much searching of Compaq's web site to determine what those > software packages were.. > G > I'm sure there are other things that would be of use to the Hobbyist.i > Anyone have any suggestions? > I > I'll start pulling together what I can find - in the meantime, any helpfI > that could be posted here would be greatly appreciated. Perhaps by nexttJ > Saturday, I can post at least an outline of the questions that should be > answered.o > E > Hoff - if we were to get something like this together, would you beoI > willing to add it as another section to the OpenVMS FAQ or host it as aX > separate FAQ at Compaq?  > 	 > William H > (who probably is getting in _way_ over his head, but what the heck...) > --, > You better watch out    What you wish for;- > It better be worth it   So much to die for.e/ >                                 Courtney Lovey  C It seems that most of your questions and goals are not special for  C hobbyists but generally for VMS beginners including hardware, i.e.  B people that want to put together their own machines. I think that B adding comments about hobbyist usage to the FAQ where appropriate B maybe a good alternative than duplicating some of the information  already there.   -- C6 moc dot slupofni at ssarb - please revert the sequence   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:42:25 +0100o, From: "Bart Zorn" <B.Zorn@TrueBit.nospam.nl> Subject: Re: VXT2000* Message-ID: <a4mjo1$d1c$1@news1.xs4all.nl>  5 "Bill Gunshannon" <bill@cs.uofs.edu> wrote in messager; news:20020216115212.A3512-100000@server2.cs.scranton.edu...t >cE > I have recently become the proud(?) owner of a VXT2000+ X-terminal.oC > I had no problem finding the software to boot on it.  However, ithE > appears to have a video connector I have never before seen on a DECpB > box.  Is there any chance anyone here has one clutering up theirB > office that they would like to get rid of??  Is there any chanceC > there is actually one that connects this box to an SVGA MultiSyncaD > monitor??  I didn't think so, but in any case, I have some old DEC- > monitors here, if I can just find a cable!!o >o > Any help appreciated.e  K You need a monitor with has BNC connectors on it's back, and which supportshJ sync-on-green. All SVGA monitors that I have seen with BNC's, also support sync-on-green.  F The right cable is another thing. Of course, the VXT came with a cableK originally. I don't have the part number, sorry. This cable is also used byw7 DEC 3000 workstations, and by VAXstation 4000 machines.l   HTH, a little,  	 Bart Zornu   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 22:15:38 GMTs- From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network>  Subject: Re: VXT2000* Message-ID: <3C6EDCC5.6090603@qsl.network>   Bart Zorn wrote:7 > "Bill Gunshannon" <bill@cs.uofs.edu> wrote in messagev= > news:20020216115212.A3512-100000@server2.cs.scranton.edu...i > E >>I have recently become the proud(?) owner of a VXT2000+ X-terminal.sC >>I had no problem finding the software to boot on it.  However, ittE >>appears to have a video connector I have never before seen on a DEC4B >>box.  Is there any chance anyone here has one clutering up theirB >>office that they would like to get rid of??  Is there any chanceC >>there is actually one that connects this box to an SVGA MultiSync D >>monitor??  I didn't think so, but in any case, I have some old DEC- >>monitors here, if I can just find a cable!!  >> >>Any help appreciated.h >> > M > You need a monitor with has BNC connectors on it's back, and which supportsmL > sync-on-green. All SVGA monitors that I have seen with BNC's, also support > sync-on-green.  A An adapter to convert a SVGA 15 pin D male cable to use with the  6 original BNC based cable is listed in the OpenVMS FAQ.  H > The right cable is another thing. Of course, the VXT came with a cableM > originally. I don't have the part number, sorry. This cable is also used by,9 > DEC 3000 workstations, and by VAXstation 4000 machines.r   -Johnt wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion OnlyR   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Feb 2002 16:36:00 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)s6 Subject: RE: What is the best NFS package for OpenVMS?3 Message-ID: <401FZxsHe3vP@eisner.encompasserve.org>M  6 > From: Larry Kilgallen [mailto:Kilgallen@SpamCop.net]! > Sent: February 15, 2002 1:49 PMa > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comt8 > Subject: RE: What is the best NFS package for OpenVMS? >  >  > In articleJ > <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4016CEA74@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>1 > , "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@Compaq.com> writes:s >>=20 B >>>>> It's ok, Kerry.  There are no children present.  You can say >> _Microsoft_.<<p >>=20oH >> Well, actually I meant all 32bit server OS's since there are a number > of >> them out there. >  > Do you mean VAX VMS ?y >   > Or would that be MVS and NSK ?   In article <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4016CEA84@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>, "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@Compaq.com> writes:% >>>> Or would that be MVS and NSK ?<<0 > $ > Well, if we wanted to be picky :-) > A > Actually, MVS is a 31 bit OS and NSK is a 32 bit OS on 64bit HW   2 So VAX/VMS is the only operating system you wanted6 to classify as being just as vulnerable as Microsoft ?   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Feb 2002 18:42:51 -0800( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)6 Subject: Re: What is the best NFS package for OpenVMS?= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0202161842.4d34256c@posting.google.com>0  j Jean-Franois PIRONNE 	<jf.pieronne@laposte.net> wrote in message news:<3C6D2B11.62632B36@laposte.net>...	 > Hi Bob,e > ? > clearly you answer without carefully read the post of Grard:  > R > The main part of his sentence is "Wasd is better", the fact it is free is just a > supplementary information. > L > Where is the windoze/unix/linux mentality ? What is your problem with free > software ? > N > Wasd is by far superior to Purveyor, and i know sites which has migrate fromP > Purveyor to Wasd, so it is an experimental fact, take a look at the ability to< > run script under any account, or the throttling mechanism. > R > If you want to convince me that Purveyor is bug free, i am sorry it's not what iP > have seem. For examples, sometimes, Purveyor leak sockets and the cache of the+ > proxy have a lot of performance problems.a >   I you criticize me for stating purveyor is superior, but then make the sameiH claim yourself about wasd ... multi-account scripting or throttling doesG not make wasd superior, and I have never noticed any socket leaks usingaD tcpware as my ip stack ... proxy cache works fine if you know how toH configure it correctly ... my goal is to run all synergy dibol dll's andG incorporate synergys dibol xml parser to build xml pages and serve themnH thru synergy dibol dll's thru purveyor ... now that will be performance!   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 05:51:00 -0500p5 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com>k Subject: Re: XP 1000 won't boota1 Message-ID: <VkBb8.147$YS1.1063@news.cpqcorp.net>t  K Of course, boot drivers don't know any of these things,  the primitive filej3 system does.  Boot drivers just do simple block IO.o  J I would check all the connections, reseat boards and cables.  Usually this/ type error happens because of a bad connection.       / "MarkHill" <mhill@stny.rr.com> wrote in messagec4 news:Gakb8.87103$QG.18946143@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com...4 > Just a guess here cause there is no info posted...K > VMS Boot drivers are sensitive... They dont handle directory sizes biggerrD > than 127 blocks very well and they dont like directories that have multiplyG > allocated blocks that defraggers may have moved among other things...k >gE > try booting with R5 set to 10000 or 20000.... I forgot which bit isx exactlyDK > which but these will give you some better idea where your crapping out...D On* > an XP it would look something like this: > K > (Assuming a whole bunch of things like you're booting from sys0, you dont H > want to stop at sysboot, and bootdef_dev is set to something sensible) >  > >>>b -fl 20000 >l= > "Tony Barker" <tony@dartfactordata.ltd.uk> wrote in message22 > news:B891C685.8CFB%tony@dartfactordata.ltd.uk...4 > > I have a XP 1000 workstation running ovms V7.2-1E > > It has been up and running for several months - including several  rebootseK > > but this morning following a shutdown (@sys$system:shutdown) the system  > now:E > > fails to restart.  Just after the boot starts - it announces ovms4 > starting,2G > > then performs a crash dump, displays the message "inconsistent boot  driver/ > > state" and then reboots again, and again...kL > > Can anyone please tell me ehat's wrong and how I can go about fixing it? > >l
 > > thanks > >t > > Tony > >o >  >d   ------------------------------   Date: 16 Feb 2002 21:11:41 GMT0 From: hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu (Richard E. Hawkins)( Subject: Re: [off-topic] eighty et al..., Message-ID: <a4mhud$1958@r02n01.cac.psu.edu>  8 In article <o0ao6ugq6jhsnap59900rufp6168fjgoeb@4ax.com>,. John A. Stovall  <stovall@our-town.com> wrote:  E >Spain was a major Roman colony for hundred of years.  Spain has five}F >official languages,  Spanish, Basque, Galician, Gascon (Aranese), and. >Catalan with another 4 or 5 spoken languages.  C Spanish?  Shouldn't that first be, "Castillian" or some such?  As IaF recall, they won't call their own language spanish, and use that label; to refer to the dialect(s) of central & south america . . .o   hawk   -- pP Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics         /"\   ASCII ribbon campaignL dochawk@psu.edu  Smeal 178  (814) 375-4700           \ /   against HTML mailI These opinions will not be those of                   X    and postings. a; Penn State until it pays my retainer.                / \   z   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.093 ************************has ? Can we run OpenVMS on them ?$ > If not, then I'm not interested... >  > --  3 > Peter "EPLAN" "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S    "S     #S    #S    #S    #S    #S    #S    #S    #S    #S    	#S    
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