0 INFO-VAX	Tue, 19 Feb 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 98      Contents: Re: "Crashless Windows" ; RE: (OT) Dueterium (from discussion about Deuterium-Gallium 3 Re: alpha4100 console connection to serial terminal  RE: Backup query.  RE: Backup query. 8 Re: Batch job termination - OpenVMS v7.3 v. OpenVMS v7.18 Re: Batch job termination - OpenVMS v7.3 v. OpenVMS v7.1. Re: Cisco 2948G-L3 layer three switch with VMS Re: Diff SCSI cntrlrs  Re: File renaming  Re: File renaming  Re: File renaming 7 Re: First person to get this correct gets a small gift. 
 ftp deamon Re: ftp deamon Re: ftp deamon Re: Itanium troubles Re: Itanium troubles/ Re: Load Balancing DNA across 2*2MBit WAN links  Re: mail problem Re: menu Re: Mozilla 0.98 & printing  Re: Mozilla 0.98 & printing % Oracle RDB home page unavailable !!!! ) Re: Oracle RDB home page unavailable !!!! ) Re: Oracle RDB home page unavailable !!!! ) Re: Oracle RDB home page unavailable !!!! ) Re: Oracle RDB home page unavailable !!!!  Re: Oracle RDB Server V7.0-1' Re: OT: Humour - Capitalism Enron style ' Re: OT: Humour - Capitalism Enron style 8 Re: OT: Source code - DECnet socket applications for VMS9 Poor Performance with OpenVMS Advanced Server and TCPWare  print on OCE copier  Re: Problem with DEC C Re: Problem with DEC C" question about SET DISPLAY command& Re: question about SET DISPLAY command& Re: question about SET DISPLAY command
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 Sixel-to-PLC5  Re: Sixel-to-PLC5 9 Re: Sixel-to-PLC5 - Almost, how about Sixel to Postscript 3 Strange status value - when can I expect to get it? 7 Re: Strange status value - when can I expect to get it? 7 Re: Strange status value - when can I expect to get it? 7 Re: Strange status value - when can I expect to get it? 7 Re: Strange status value - when can I expect to get it? P Re: Sv: Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was The  demise       of P Re: Sv: Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was The demise       of  P Re: Sv: Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was The demise       of  P Re: Sv: Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was The demise       of  5 Re: VMS HELP glitch (was Re: Proposal - Hobbyist FAQ) . VMS/Unix/Alpha NYC Event Wed., Feb 20th., 2002- Re: What is the best NFS package for OpenVMS? - Re: What is the best NFS package for OpenVMS? - Re: What is the best NFS package for OpenVMS? A Re: Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was The demise A Re: Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was The demise P Re: Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was The demise    of      com- RE: [OT] Dueterium [from discussion about ... P Re: [OT] Dueterium [from discussion about Deuterium-Gallium powered cars   (was P Re: [OT] Dueterium [from discussion about Deuterium-Gallium powered cars   (was P Re: [OT] Dueterium [from discussion about Deuterium-Gallium powered cars (was ReP Re: [OT] Dueterium [from discussion about Deuterium-Gallium powered cars (was Re  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:11:16 GMT  From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG   Subject: Re: "Crashless Windows"0 Message-ID: <00A09C9D.15E40C8F@SendSpamHere.ORG>  [ In article <3C71AEEF.380F1D01@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:  >"Terry C. Shannon" wrote: >>  ' >> That would be DECwindows on OpenVMS.  > G >Dunno. VAXman needs only run Mozilla to trash DECwindows on his Alpha, # >unless he's found/fixed the cause.   M I have... Well, actually George Watson found the problem.  He too experienced M DECwindows server crashes whein running Mozilla.  The problem was the choice   of PseudoColor vs TrueColor.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              J   "And of course, I'm a genius, so people are naturally drawn to my fiery I   intellect.  Their admiration overwhelms their envy!" -- Calvin & Hobbes    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:05:13 -0500 * From: WILLIAM WEBB <WWEBB1@email.usps.gov>D Subject: RE: (OT) Dueterium (from discussion about Deuterium-Gallium- Message-ID: <0033000053585317000002L072*@MHS>   : =0A"Dueterium" sounds like a neologism created to describe? classical music that is sung by two people while in the shower.   < It's spelled Deuterium, unless it's one of those funny words like aluminum/aluminium.  ; In the US, at least, any food or drink product described as 9 "heavy" would be very unlikely to gain market acceptance.   7 Now if it were called "H2O-Lite", you'd make a fortune.    WWWebb   -----Original Message-----/ From: Info-VAX-Request@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNET ) Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 11:37 AM B To: Webb, William W Raleigh, NC; Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com at INTERNETD Subject: RE: [OT] Dueterium [from discussion about Deuterium-Gallium    H The real question is how long before some company starts to sell bottle= d E "heavy water" claiming all sorts of health benefits. :-) :-) :-) :-)=    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:35:47 -0600 / From: "patricia meece" <pameece@oandm.uiuc.edu> < Subject: Re: alpha4100 console connection to serial terminal7 Message-ID: <Tktc8.20817$tg4.236283@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>   K Problem resolved. Local supplier sent wrong adapter. Correct adapter in use # H8571-J and serial terminal in use.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:43:05 +0100 7 From: "Dijk, Jeroen van" <Jeroen.vanDijk@Getronics.com>  Subject: RE: Backup query.O Message-ID: <2795B75EF003D311801A00A0C906B511011C6CD3@cucexec.gbc.getronics.nl>   5 I have seen a lot of answers, but no the complet one.   g I do a lot of restores from lot of different VMS configurations, that is my company does to earn money.    The standard way for succes is. L Make a hotbackup from the databases to disks, any dba guru can tell you how.? Then do a image backup of everything except the database files.    Restore is the other way. _ First place back the image backups and then run the recovery script on to restore the database. 4 Please test it, because that is only way to be sure.  V The backup to disk for the dba cost extra disks, but that keeps the 24/7 shop running.   Contact my privatly if anyone wants to run restore test in the netherlands and/or wants me or coworkers to write the backupscript.   					    Jeroen van Dijk  Uitwijkmedewerker  Business Continuity  Jeroen.vandijk@getronics.nl   " Getronics Infrastructure Solutions Botter 15-90 Postbus 2228 8203 AE  Lelystad  Tel  : +31 (0)320 266314 Fax:  +31 (0)320 266219    > -----Original Message-----B > From: Leigh G. Bowden [mailto:LGBowden@bowdenfamily.fsnet.co.uk]& > Sent: vrijdag 15 februari 2002 21:21 > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com  > Subject: Backup query. >  > < > I've been asked to improve the backups on a AS2100 with 2  > CPU's and 1 GB of @ > RAM it has 16 x 2.1 GB disks but shadowed as 8 (1 system disk  > and 7 data).= > This is running VMS6.2 with Oracle 7.0 of some ilk. VMS is   > fully patched as? > of about three months ago. The backups are done to a DLT III   > 10/20GB device? > which is quite capable of taking the entire system on a tape   > with plenty to? > spare. The system is nominally 24 x 7 but it is fairly quiet   > at night the' > backup runs at 3am Monday - Saturday.  > G > The current backup is rather erratic and I've changed it to do /IMAGE ? > backups of all the DSA devices but I now want to improve it.   > This is where  > I'm less sure. > < > 1). At it's easiest breaking the shadow sets and mounting  > them privately and? > doing backups of those before introducing them back into the   > shadow. As the; > system is quiet at night nobody would notice the loss of   > performance as the; > copies are done. Compaq don't seem to like this approach.  > H > 2). Compaq seem to prefer dismounting the shadow volume then remount a= > single disk as a shadow and backup from the other one then   > introduce that> > one back into the shadow. I doubt this would work as Oracle 
 > will almost " > certainly have some files opens. > ? > 3). Shutting Oracle down briefly to do 1 or 2 is unlikely as   > the system is ? > needed 24 x 7 but I might be able to persuade the management   > otherwise if it ! > was for about ten minutes only.  > > > Is option 1 really an option despite Compaq's protestations? > > > In all instances do the disks have be forced to dismount as  > files could be > open on the disks? >  >    ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 12:53:54 -0600 From: briggs@encompasserve.org Subject: RE: Backup query.3 Message-ID: <B+jSzMzIGjrQ@eisner.encompasserve.org>    In article <2795B75EF003D311801A00A0C906B511011C6CD3@cucexec.gbc.getronics.nl>, "Dijk, Jeroen van" <Jeroen.vanDijk@Getronics.com> writes: 7 > I have seen a lot of answers, but no the complet one.   @ In case you missed it:  ftp://ftp.na.baesystems.com/comp.os.vms/   > i > I do a lot of restores from lot of different VMS configurations, that is my company does to earn money.  > ! > The standard way for succes is. N > Make a hotbackup from the databases to disks, any dba guru can tell you how.A > Then do a image backup of everything except the database files.   = If you're doing hot backup disk to disk, you might as well do B a hot backup disk to tape and cut out the middle man.  That's what we do.    > Restore is the other way. a > First place back the image backups and then run the recovery script on to restore the database. 6 > Please test it, because that is only way to be sure.  @ If you're doing a restore disk to disk, you might as well do theD restore tape to disk and cut out the middle man.  That's what we do.  X > The backup to disk for the dba cost extra disks, but that keeps the 24/7 shop running.  E Backup to tape keeps 24/7 as well.  As I wrote separately, we've been G through the acid test, restoring a complete database from tape and then B rolling forward with point-in-time recovery.  We managed just fineA without staging any backups from disk to disk.  (Well, we do have C to do the archive logs disk to disk.  On the most recent database I C had to restore, the archive logs were the time consuming part.  The B database files were on one or two reels.  The archive logs spannedE five or six).  Weekly full database backup and daily archive log tape  switch.   @ Part of the key to making that work well is having the foresightE to make a tape directory to go with each backup tape, thus permitting < easy restoration without any extraneous tape movement.  e.g.  ?  HOT backup of Oracle PRDFN database on 14-FEB-2002 23:30:22.46     SID: PRDFN &  DRIVE: _ALPHA$MKD100: -- a TZ87 drive  REELS: TK0393,TK0135 .  Setup file: ORACLE_HOME:[000000]SET_PRDFN.COM  BACKUP STYLE: HOT  N  Backed up "DISK1520:[ORACLE.PRDFN2]AFADMIN01.DBS;1" in save set "AFADMIN" on   reel TK0393G  Backed up "DISK2320:[ORACLE.PRDFN2]AFADMIN_INDEX01.DBS;1" in save set    "AFADMIN_INDEX" on reel TK0393 M  Backed up "DISK1650:[ORACLE.PRDFN2]AIMS01.DBS;1" in save set "AIMS" on reel    TK0393 Q  Backed up "DISK2320:[ORACLE.PRDFN2]AIMS_INDEX01.DBS;1" in save set "AIMS_INDEX"    on reel TK0393 N  Backed up "DISK1520:[ORACLE.PRDFN2]AL_DATA01.DBS;1" in save set "AL_DATA" on   reel TK0393  ...    G Now, perhaps you were talking about doing database exports disk to disk C then writing those to tape.  We do that too.  Sometimes you want to C recover some subset of the whole database.  Perhaps a single table. E Being able to do a selective import from a full (or partial) database  export is very handy.    	John Briggs   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 11:52:48 -0600+ From: kuhrt@encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt) A Subject: Re: Batch job termination - OpenVMS v7.3 v. OpenVMS v7.1 3 Message-ID: <sRWJ9mnAuxSA@eisner.encompasserve.org>   g In article <91B6AE454warrenspencer1977@209.249.90.100>, wspencer@ap.nospam.org (Warren Spencer) writes: F > davef@tsoft-inc.com (David Froble) wrote in <3C6D57C0.4060000@tsoft- > inc.com>:  >   >>> ----- Original Message -----< >>> From: "Andrew Rycroft" <andrew.rycroft@intrinsitech.com> >>> Newsgroups: comp.os.vms + >>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 1:26 PM A >>> Subject: Batch job termination - OpenVMS v7.3 v. OpenVMS v7.1  >>>  >>>  >>>  >>>>Hi,  >>>>J >>>>I have just upgrade to OpenVMS v7.3 from openVMS v7.1. We have a batchJ >>>>job that runs continuously. On occasion we stop it, and restart it. To >>>>stop is we use >>>> >>>>$ Delete/entry=n >>3 >>So, Ok, The BIG HAMMER approach works many times.  >>K >>There are shall I say, cleaner methods to stop a job that is not running  K >>interactively.  Just one example would be a system or group logical, for  
 >>example: >> >>PROCESS_XYZ_STOP_NOW = "NO"  >>H >>The logical value is normally 'NO' or 'N' or whatever.  Possibly just G >>it's existance, or lack thereof.  The application would periodically  @ >>chack the logical, and when a specified condition is met, the 0 >>application will shut down in a normal manner. >>K >>Other possibilities, definitely not a complete list, would be mailbox or  I >>socket communications, the contents of a communications disk file, etc.  >> >>The logical is rather simple.  >> >>Dave >> > G > There are many possiblities, but the logical name method can lead to  M > problems... Application comes up, logical name is already defined from the  L > previous shutdown, application see it and goes down immediately, operator @ > scratches his head.  Repeat until operator wakes someone up... >  > ws  A Which can be worked around by having the application rundown code @ delete the logical on the way out.  Assuming the logical is used> as a one time toggle type of thing.  Having shot myself in the> foot a few times with the "exit when logical is there, hey why; didn't it start?" gun, I added the delete on shutdown code.    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 18:16:55 -0000 - From: wspencer@ap.nospam.org (Warren Spencer) A Subject: Re: Batch job termination - OpenVMS v7.3 v. OpenVMS v7.1 7 Message-ID: <91BA82B32warrenspencer1977@209.249.90.100>   . kuhrt@encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt) wrote in) <sRWJ9mnAuxSA@eisner.encompasserve.org>:    8 >In article <91B6AE454warrenspencer1977@209.249.90.100>,1 >wspencer@ap.nospam.org (Warren Spencer) writes:   >>  H >> There are many possiblities, but the logical name method can lead to I >> problems... Application comes up, logical name is already defined from G >> the previous shutdown, application see it and goes down immediately, D >> operator scratches his head.  Repeat until operator wakes someone	 >> up...   >>   >> ws  > B >Which can be worked around by having the application rundown codeA >delete the logical on the way out.  Assuming the logical is used ? >as a one time toggle type of thing.  Having shot myself in the ? >foot a few times with the "exit when logical is there, hey why < >didn't it start?" gun, I added the delete on shutdown code.  K "can be worked around" is the key phrase here.  The logical-name mechansim  J you're proposing can fail in numerous ways; application run-down does not : alway get run, image exit handlers do not alway get run...  G Why not choose an appropriate mechanism and put your effort into that,  I rather than spending time inventing work-arounds for a mechanism that is  H ill-suited to the task?  My experience is that the total amount of time K invested in the development effort will be similar either way, but there's  ; big savings on the operational side when it's "done right".    ws   --     Warren Spencer' Senior Software Engineer (not a writer)  The Associated Press  < ** Time flies like an arrow.  Fruit flies like a bananna. **   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 08:06:00 -07001 From: nothome@spammers.are.scum (Malcolm Dunnett) 7 Subject: Re: Cisco 2948G-L3 layer three switch with VMS , Message-ID: <IECyF8vWxdMt@malvm6.mala.bc.ca>  9 In article <ei3l6ug32n15qiobgc9hfd3v4to31l8r7m@4ax.com>,  )   Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net> writes:    > G > Anyone out there have VMS systems connected to the new Cisco 2948G-L32 > layer three switch?   @    Yes. The switch isn't that new, we've had one for well over a	 year now.o  ?    In general it works fine with VMS, I have a cluster that hasi? members on a couple of different ports on it ( actually they'reo4 on separate switches which feed into the 2948G-L3 ).  2 > Looks like we're about to buy one and, on paper,? > it looks almost too good to be true pricewise compared to the F > traditional Cisco high speed routers coupled to switches. GuaranteedE > wire speed switching *and* routing across all 48 Fast ether and twom? > Gigabit ether ports simultaneously. And at only around $7,000e >   8 > Anyone know of any hidden problems we might encounter?  D    The only problem we've had with this switch was when we initiallyF tried to run it with all the ports bridged together. In that situationE it was sensitive to broadcast storms, they would overload the CPU andhG cause lots of packets to be dropped. If you run each port as a separateeO IP address/network or keep only a few ports in each bridge group this shouldn'to
 be a problem.   D    You'll want to make sure you load the most recent software on theD switch when you get it, there have been some recent security patches& I believe ( such as the SNMP attack ).   > Currently weF > have a dedicated switch connecting the cluster which then feeds back@ > into the backbone switches but I'd be inclined just to connectC > straight into the 2948G-L3 once installed. This could save me thesE > bother of maintaining addresses on  multiple subnets for efficiencytB > on the VMS systems - we have a lot of traffic across subnets and? > usually the routers are the bottleneck not the wirespeed. Any % > thoughts? Anyone even seen one yet?t > ?    The switch comes up as a router by default ( ie each port is B assumed to have a separate IP address or network assigned to it ).> If you want to run a cluster across multiple ports you need to@ aggregate them into a bridge group, then the entire bridge groupE is assigned the same IP subnet. Bridged traffic is not shared betweenn multiple bridge groups.i   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 09:54:06 -0800 0 From: Mark Berryman <Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com> Subject: Re: Diff SCSI cntrlrs, Message-ID: <3C7220BE.6F405307@Mvb.Saic.Com>   Craig A. Berry wrote:w >R   [severe snippage]t  Q > As farE > as I can tell, there has been no new SCSI support for OpenVMS sinceaH > Compaq acquired DEC four years ago, and for that matter no support forI > the majority of Compaq-branded SCSI cards, though I'd love to be provenn > wrong.  G Permit me to do so.  The following is extracted from the description ofs& a patch that was released last summer.  ; NEW FUNCTIONALITY INTRODUCED IN VMS73_FIBRE_SCSI-V0100 KIT:]  C   o  This kit provides support for  the  KZPEA-DB  Ultra  160  SCSIs      Storage Adapter.l  C      The Compaq KZPEA-DB SCSI Storage Adapter is a high-performancetC      dual  channel Ultra 160 SCSI adapter that connects external oroC      internal SCSI  storage  devices  to  a  PCI-based  host  AlpharC      system.   The  module provides multimode SCSI support for both-C      Single-Ended (SE) and  Low  Voltage  Differential  (LVD)  SCSIe)      peripherals in a 33/66 Mhz PCI slot.t  2      The KZPEA adapter has the following features:  F          o  Provides full-featured dual-channel Ultra  160  SCSI  host:             adapter with a 66/33 Mhz 64-bit PCI interface.  F          o  Supports Ultra160 data transfer rates up to 160 MB/sec  on;             the 16-bit SCSI bus using LVD SCSI peripherals.t  F          o  Supports  mixed  SCSI-2,   Ultra2,   and   Ultra160   SCSI:             peripherals on Compaq Storageworks enclosures.  A          o  Supports hot-swapping/hot-adding of SCSI peripherals.h  5          Images Affected:  [SYS$LDR]SYS$PKADRIVER.EXE     
 Mark BerrymanM   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 08:32:56 -0000= From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]>a Subject: Re: File renaming5 Message-ID: <20020219083256.6110.qmail@gacracker.org>a  G On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote:1 >"Doc.Cypher" wrote: >> AK >> I've had an interesting puzzle brought to my attention regarding RENAME,aB >> and from testing also the same behaviour is exhibited by COPY.  >>  F >> One user has asked how to rename a file FOO.X to .PLAN, here's what >> happens:  >>   >> $ rename FOO.X .PLANh >> $ dir *.PLANe >> D >> Directory USER_DISK:[DC]t >> f
 >> FOO.PLAN;1e >> i >> Total of 1 file.t >> ,- >> Even rename FOO.X to [].PLAN doesn't work.a >> hL >> Does anyone know of a way to achieve this, or is this a quirk of VMS that= >> you can't make files nameless except at initial creation? a >e! >I guess not. This works, though:M >S8 >DJAS01::DDACHTERA$ copy nla0:,sys$login:login.com .planE >%COPY-S-COPIED, _NLA0: copied to DKA0:[DDACHTERA].PLAN;2 (0 records)N: >%COPY-S-APPENDED, DKA0:[DDACHTERA]LOGIN.COM;1 appended to >DKA0:[DDACHTERA].PLAN;l >2 (18 records)l > # >For what little it may be worth...t  G Thanks David, that one works - I'll pass it on to the user that had the: problem.     Doc. -- -6 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.K ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.                              http://vmsbox.cjb.neto   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:06:30 +0100 (MET)i9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>p Subject: Re: File renaming; Message-ID: <01KEGDCJLR528ZKA1M@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>-  L > > I've had an interesting puzzle brought to my attention regarding RENAME,B > > and from testing also the same behaviour is exhibited by COPY. > > G > > One user has asked how to rename a file FOO.X to .PLAN, here's whata > & > $COPY FOO.X node"user pass"::".PLAN" > L > DECNET allows "foreign file names" when enclosed in quotes and attempts no > file manipulation.  C A "standard" answer from years ago in this forum: MAIL the file to h$ yourself and use EXTRACT <filename>.   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:05:37 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>c Subject: Re: File renaming; Message-ID: <01KEGDC78GYO8ZKA1M@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>s  K From:	IN%"jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca"  "JF Mezei" 18-FEB-2002 21:00:27.56k To:	IN%"Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com" CC:	 Subj:	RE: File renaming   , Return-path: <Info-VAX-Request@Mvb.Saic.Com>> Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by sysdev.deutsche-boerse.comO  (PMDF V5.2-32 #40435) id <01KEFLWTLJDC8Y88HN@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>; Mon,n!  18 Feb 2002 21:00:27 +0100 (MET)r: Received: from argus.deutsche-boerse.de ([192.168.194.50])4  by sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #40436)D  with ESMTP id <01KEFLWTCS7S90O0KH@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>; Mon,!  18 Feb 2002 21:00:25 +0100 (MET)]K Received: from deimos.deutsche-boerse.de () by mailhub.exchange.de (V1.3.2)j-  id UAA67698; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 20:59:35 +0100oA Received: (from smap@localhost) by mail.deutsche-boerse.de (V1.3)A.  id UAA268530; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 20:58:52 +0100L Received: from mvb.saic.com(198.151.12.104) by deimos.deutsche-boerse.de via:  smap (V2.1)	id xma365250; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 20:58:47 +0100% Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:04:26 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>  Subject: Re: File renaming To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com 1 Reply-to: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>a, Message-id: <3C715E42.B64FA074@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0d* X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 (Macintosh; U; PPC) Content-type: text/plain0 NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 14:59:35 EST X-Accept-Language: eni# X-Complaints-To: abuse@videotron.car; X-Trace: weber.videotron.net 1014062375 24.202.148.20 (Mon,u  18 Feb 2002 14:59:35 EST) X-Gateway-From: mvb.saic.com	 Lines: 11c= X-Comment: Message Virus scanned by sysdev.deutsche-boerse.det X-Gateway-source-info: USENETl X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vmst   "Doc.Cypher" wrote:C > J > I've had an interesting puzzle brought to my attention regarding RENAME,@ > and from testing also the same behaviour is exhibited by COPY. > E > One user has asked how to rename a file FOO.X to .PLAN, here's what   $ $COPY FOO.X node"user pass"::".PLAN"  J DECNET allows "foreign file names" when enclosed in quotes and attempts no file manipulation.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 09:45:19 -0500e0 From: "Syltrem" <syltrem@videotron.spammenot.ca>@ Subject: Re: First person to get this correct gets a small gift./ Message-ID: <Vxtc8.26$a04.14@tor-nn1.netcom.ca>    Oh!i    I got married 2 days before you!   --   Syltrem I http://pages.infinit.net/syltrem (OpenVMS related web site - en franais)-> To reply to myself directly, remove .spammenot from my address  L "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> a crit dans le message de news: 3C71B234.BD25F497@fsi.net... > Arlen Williams wrote:5 > >C > > Sue Skonetski wrote: > > >D1 > > > How many 3rd party applications run on VMS?t > > > 	 > > > Sue  > > At least 861.u >oI > If I were in any position to do so, I would offer a prize for the firsto? > person to produce and post a list of applications, by vendor.V >cJ > I got off easy last year. No one claimed the $1000 cash I offered to theB > person who could double OpenVMS's marketshare by the end of 2001F > (31-Dec-2001). The wife and I might get a vacation this year - first/ > time since we're married (since 12-Sep-1998).  >k > -- > David J. Dachteraa > dba DJE Systemsa > http://www.djesys.com/ > * > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:27:55 +0200 & From: Avital Shaked <avital@hms.co.il> Subject: ftp deamon J Message-ID: <404A9906CD37D311A0670020182F1B942D57B4@server2.lan.hms.co.il>   hello,) I ask for a configuration of ftp service,hK can I choose to give the option to connect with ftp to specific users or isa a default to all useru and if I can, how I do it?   thx  Avital   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:40:35 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>- Subject: Re: ftp deamond; Message-ID: <01KEGEH5Q6UW8ZKA1M@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>W  D > I ask for a configuration of ftp service, can I choose to give theJ > option to connect with ftp to specific users or is a default to all user > and if I can, how I do it? n  H If I understand you correctly, the FTP server itself, if it is running, I allows all users to connect.  You can restrict network access in the UAF kI for certain users or (only meaningful if the user can't access the login wF account) check during login if the login is FTP and then reject it if G you don't want it.  In other words, any separation of users into those 4I who can connect and those who can't is not done with the FTP server, but i3 rather with various aspects of the users' accounts.[   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 10:46:28 -0000= From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]>3 Subject: Re: ftp deamon[5 Message-ID: <20020219104628.9956.qmail@gacracker.org>F  H On Tue, 19 Feb 2002, Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> wrote:E >> I ask for a configuration of ftp service, can I choose to give the]K >> option to connect with ftp to specific users or is a default to all user" >> and if I can, how I do it?   I It would help if we knew what FTP server the original poster was running,w and what they hope to achieve.  I >If I understand you correctly, the FTP server itself, if it is running, eJ >allows all users to connect.  You can restrict network access in the UAF J >for certain users or (only meaningful if the user can't access the login G >account) check during login if the login is FTP and then reject it if -H >you don't want it.  In other words, any separation of users into those J >who can connect and those who can't is not done with the FTP server, but 4 >rather with various aspects of the users' accounts.  H In Multinet there is an FTP_SERVER.COM which is executed whenever an FTPH login occurs. With this it is possible to build rules for the accessibleK directories based on username, user group, ACLs, or logicals. I have in theaG past used this to give specific users write access to the anonymous FTP>K directories. I assume similar setups are possible with most implementations  of FTP.B     Doc. -- a6 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.K ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.                              http://vmsbox.cjb.net    ------------------------------   Date: 19 Feb 2002 13:28:12 GMT( From: nmm1@cus.cam.ac.uk (Nick Maclaren) Subject: Re: Itanium troubles 0 Message-ID: <a4tjtc$rra$1@pegasus.csx.cam.ac.uk>  8 In article <Up%b8.3032$ro5.512988@typhoon.ne.ipsvc.net>,6 "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net> writes: |> wL |>     I would withhold comment on this until 2H02 when McKinley shows up. =- |> If McKinley craters, all IPF bets are off.    Why?  @ I have been predicting for some time that there is a significantC chance (say, 30%) that the IA-64 line will fail under the weight of C its own inconsistencies.  One of the things that I was factoring in @ was the (small) chance of McKinley hitting serious trouble - notA necessarily on the scale of that hit by the Itanic, but enough totA either push it well into 2003 or make it unusable in a large part  of its target market.>  A There are no current rumours of trouble, but no solid evidence oflC its absence (nor would we expect it yet).  We shall know more after B IDF 2002, because Intel will preannounce performance figures if itB is going well, will be very selective with the ones quoted if not,5 and will bullshit like hell if it is facing disaster.r  B If the McKinley crashes as badly as the Itanic did, I predict that@ Intel will change direction before March 2003.  I doubt that the@ McKinley will fail that spectacularly, though, and we won't knowA for certain whether the IA-64 line will take off, survive or flopI until late 2003.     Regards, Nick Maclaren,* University of Cambridge Computing Service,> New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QH, England. Email:  nmm1@cam.ac.uk/ Tel.:  +44 1223 334761    Fax:  +44 1223 334679    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:33:18 -0500e- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>i Subject: Re: Itanium troublesI, Message-ID: <3C728C5B.D37CAEA3@videotron.ca>   Nick Maclaren wrote:B > Intel will change direction before March 2003.  I doubt that theB > McKinley will fail that spectacularly, though, and we won't knowC > for certain whether the IA-64 line will take off, survive or flopi > until late 2003.  L It is not black or white. IA64 doesn't have to fail spectacularly or succeedM to become industry standard. Its performance may be just acceptable enough tok? continue its production. And that is probably what will happen.i  J What IBM needs to do to kill IA64 is simply to sell Power chips to as manyL manufacturers as possible. Power is a bit like Alpha: a great chip, but usedE by only one manufacturer (Apple isn't really in the server business).o  M For IBM though, it would be a strategic decision whether to try to make PoweraN "industry standard" or keep it to itself so that its servers have an edge over Sun etc.   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 08:14:46 -0600- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)e8 Subject: Re: Load Balancing DNA across 2*2MBit WAN links3 Message-ID: <c7JRWNmIENEh@eisner.encompasserve.org>h  s  adrian_ogden@hotmail.com (Scumbag Adie) wrote in message news:<91445c94.0202140124.1d5c0d4d@posting.google.com>...,? > The fundamental problem to resolve is are there any technicalnE > reasons why running a 4Mb link between cluster nodes instead of theo; > mandated 10Mb minimum would be a bad idea other than justr> > performance (its only to be used for shadowing small disks)?B > I thought I've run a cluster satellite on a 64Kb link before now > quite happily.  H    We once ran a cluster for test purposes over an optical T1 link (1Mb)G    between two buildings.  We weren't really asking all that much sincedH    it was a VAXstation 2000 satellite of an MV II server, but we did use7    all the default SYSGEN values for connection timing.w  H    We ran this test in the winter.  After the test we realized that had 1    it started snowing we'd have lost quorum.  8-)I   ------------------------------   Date: 19 Feb 2002 04:20 CSTb' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)( Subject: Re: mail problemr- Message-ID: <19FEB200204201282@gerg.tamu.edu>   1 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes... + }Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr wrote: Q }> I don't think MAIL lets you store it in any subdirectory but a subdirectory ofn
 }> SYS$LOGIN.e } L }But perhaps the SET MAIL DIRECTORY was done at a time USER$ had existed andO }was in SYSUAF as the device name, and UAF may have changed since then, but therO }VMSMAIL_PROFILE wouldn't reflect the change, but still function since it stillw> }maps to the same directory as long as USER$ remained defined.  H VMSMAIL_PROFILE doesn't store any device information. It only stores theM subdirectory in the form "[.FOO]". It is possible to get an invalid directory G in there, but not an invalid device. (Well, I suppose you *could* do iteC outside the normal mechanism, by editing the VMSMAIL_PROFILE file.)   < Thus, the thing to check is the user's record in the SYSUAF.   --- Carl   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 07:19:10 -0800* From: polato@igi.pd.cnr.it (Sandro Polato) Subject: Re: menue= Message-ID: <2af2b3d8.0202190719.6128bd37@posting.google.com>t  b "tim" <t_stekkinger@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<dK6b8.49867$W05.115897@zonnet-reader-1>...$ > I am searching for some kind menu.& > so i can easily added some procedure > and can work with it  K I suggest MenuFinder: see the Freeware CD 5.0 or the page www.itre.com/mf .k   Sandro   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 13:35:50 +0100K From: pmoreau@ath.cena.fr (Patrick MOREAU, CENA Athis, Tel: 01.69.57.64.40)a$ Subject: Re: Mozilla 0.98 & printing! Message-ID: <tfFQr9BU$wRg@gaelic>r  1 In article <a4qnd1$gvh$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>, t5 gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) writes:g > K > after installing Mozilla 0.98 under OpenVMS 7.1-2 I noticed that I cannotrP > print anymore. The print files are created and placed into the specified queueO > but then they simply disappear. This happens with every page I tried to printsP > and every printer I tried (new and old ones, color and monochrome). I opened aN > bug at Mozilla's page but wonder whether I am the only one experiencing this > problem? M  L I have the same problem and was thinking to open a bug report. The generatedO Postscript files contains only headers (or wathever they are) but not the pages # to be printed. I came back to 0.9.7l   Patrickx --O ===============================================================================IN pmoreau@ath.cena.fr  (CENA)     ______      ___   _           (Patrick MOREAU)4 moreau_p@decus.fr (DECUS)       / /   /     / /|  /|J CENA/Athis-Mons FRANCE         / /___/     / / | / |   __   __   __   __  N BP 205                        / /         / /  |/  |  |  | |__| |__  |__| |  |N 94542 ORLY AEROGARE CEDEX    / /   ::    / /       |  |__| | \  |__  |  | |__|N http://www.ath.cena.fr/~pmoreau/            http://www.multimania.com/pmoreau/O ===============================================================================    ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 04:32:47 -0800) From: P.Young@unsw.EDU.AU (Patrick Young)e$ Subject: Re: Mozilla 0.98 & printing= Message-ID: <55f85d77.0202190432.45990619@posting.google.com>u  \ Colin Blake <colin@theblakes.com> wrote in message news:<3C711D3C.85021272@theblakes.com>...O > Please use bugzilla. This is already reported and a workaround is posted. BugU	 > 124139.C4 > http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124139  F This was going to be my next (67 block :-) question - as things turnedA out I installed 0.9.8 at work before I did at home (which was not I planned). It actually caused me to use a Window(tm) box today - something: I don't find pleasant.  C Colin, Many Thanks for your time and energy on the Mozilla port, asaB far as I am concerned your work is *MUCH APPRECIATED* and makes myD life for one, much more enjoyable (I use OpenVMS Mozilla for an hour or three each day).   
 Anyway, FWIW:   ) > Colin selecting page range didn't work.  > = > Adding the lines: user_pref("print.print_evenpages", true);e< >                   user_pref("print.print_oddpages", true);& > to the file prefs.js solved the bug!  e Also fixed it for me.    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 03:59:53 -0800 (PST)P. From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>. Subject: Oracle RDB home page unavailable !!!!@ Message-ID: <20020219115953.95907.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com>   Hi Norm   - The Oracle RDB home page is unavailable !!!!!l   www.oracle.com/rdb  ! At least for me in South America.D     RegardsE   FC y   =====s ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - BrazilS fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?2 Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.coma   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 07:36:08 -0500p1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com> 2 Subject: Re: Oracle RDB home page unavailable !!!!2 Message-ID: <3C7246B8.680A0E75@firstdbasource.com>  C it is there now... Oracle has a nasty habit of having to take theirrD systems off line and reboot.  They should use VMS and they would not have this problem.   Fabio Cardoso wrote: > 	 > Hi Norm  > / > The Oracle RDB home page is unavailable !!!!!  >  > www.oracle.com/rdb > # > At least for me in South America.  > 	 > Regardsh >  > FC >  > =====a > ========================== > Fbio dos Santos Cardoso > OpenVMS System Manager > Rio de Janeiro - Brazill > fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br > ========================== > 4 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!?4 > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.com    --   Regards,  7 Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163@7 First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.com  Sr. Consultant   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 07:46:24 -0500i2 From: norm lastovica <norman.lastovica@oracle.com>2 Subject: Re: Oracle RDB home page unavailable !!!!* Message-ID: <3C724920.E67F5E02@oracle.com>  : I'm not sure exactly what problem you're having.  It seems5 to work fine for me here.  Perhaps there is a problem89 on your end?  Additionally, I'm about the least effective07 person to notify about problems with Oracle's Web Site. 6 I'm a simple code-slinger; I don't have much impact on the external stuff I'm afraid.   Fabio Cardoso wrote: > 	 > Hi Norme > / > The Oracle RDB home page is unavailable !!!!!e >  > www.oracle.com/rdb > # > At least for me in South America.1 > 	 > Regards6 >  > FC >  > =====2 > ========================== > Fbio dos Santos Cardoso > OpenVMS System Manager > Rio de Janeiro - Brazil2 > fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br > ========================== > 4 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!?4 > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.comf   -- p> norman lastovica / oracle rdb engineering / usa / 610.696.4685   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:41:22 +0100 (MET)79 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> 2 Subject: Re: Oracle RDB home page unavailable !!!!; Message-ID: <01KEGMYE427Q8ZKA1M@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>c  / > The Oracle RDB home page is unavailable !!!!!n >  > www.oracle.com/rdb > # > At least for me in South America.   G The cookie monster (55 cookies when accessing the above URL) works for m me.M   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:02:49 GMT:4 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@mediaone.net>2 Subject: Re: Oracle RDB home page unavailable !!!!9 Message-ID: <Z1sc8.4365$ro5.1520773@typhoon.ne.ipsvc.net>   , It's working here in New England, my friend!  ; "Fabio Cardoso" <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in messagew: news:20020219115953.95907.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com...	 > Hi Normf > / > The Oracle RDB home page is unavailable !!!!!i >m > www.oracle.com/rdb >-# > At least for me in South America.  >  >2	 > Regards0 >e > FC >S > =====s > ========================== > Fbio dos Santos Cardoso > OpenVMS System Manager > Rio de Janeiro - BrazilV > fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br > ========================== > 4 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!?4 > Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games > http://sports.yahoo.comm   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:50:25 +0000 (UTC)l, From: "Richard Maher" <maher_rj@hotmail.c0m>% Subject: Re: Oracle RDB Server V7.0-1 1 Message-ID: <a4u390$40n$1@knossos.btinternet.com>r   Hi,i  ) What is the secondary error message(s)???    If you do a :-   $dir sys$library:dti$share   What does it say?e  K As others have pointed out, you could possibly copy just that shareable andbI install it or worst comes to worst re-install VMS and is should reappear.  Maybe someone has deleted it?u  I My best guess is still that it's just not installed but you're not giving  away too much.  K Out of curiosity if rmonstart lets you set verify, what image is it running  when you get the error?t   Regards Richard Maher.  1 A Bonaveidogo <Asena@fsc.com.fj> wrote in message A news:BFBEDDF2CFEDD411917400508BF3A6FF6155C5@EXCHSVR.FSC.COM.FJ...-
 > Richard, >-K > How can I install DECdtm? Do I have to re-install VMS or can just installm$ > DECdtm?  Where can I find the kit.- > I'm abit new to VMS.. excuse me for asking.e > Thanks >. > -----Original Message-----3 > From: Richard Maher [mailto:maher_rj@hotmail.c0m]t) > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 6:56 PMs > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comu' > Subject: Re: Oracle RDB Server V7.0-1  >t > Hi,-* > It's part of DECdtm that comes with VMS.G > What's the secondary error? "Prot shareables must be installed"? Thenu
 > install it.m) > INSTALL> lis sys$library:dti$share/full0- > DISK$OPENVMS062:<SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSLIB>.EXE H >    DTI$SHARE;1      Open Hdr Shar     Prot Lnkbl                Nopurg( >         Entry access count         = 1, >         Current / Maximum shared   = 2 / 4( >         Global section count       = 3 >c >, > Regards Richard Maher.3 > A Bonaveidogo <Asena@fsc.com.fj> wrote in messageaC > news:BFBEDDF2CFEDD411917400508BF3A6FF6155BC@EXCHSVR.FSC.COM.FJ...a
 > > Hi All > >e2 > > I'm using Oracle RDB V 7.0-1 on OpenVMS v7.2-1 > >fK > > When I execute @sys$startup:rmonstart to start RDB, I got the following  > > error msg; > >r$ > > error activating image DTI$SHARE > >hG > > Where can I get this image file? Do I have to install another layert
 > product? > > If so which one? > >- > > Need your help > >a > > AB > >0 > >4 > >- > >  >m   ------------------------------   Date: 19 Feb 2002 14:19:51 GMT1 From: bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)q0 Subject: Re: OT: Humour - Capitalism Enron style+ Message-ID: <a4tmu7$1hr$2@info.cs.uofs.edu>>  4 In article <VA.0000053d.4106e3f4@bluewin.delete.ch>,2  Paul Sture <paul.sture@bluewin.delete.ch> writes: |> This gem just arrived...  |> l |> Big bucks in the bull marketh |> dK |> In case you were wondering how Enron came into so much trouble, here is nI |> an explanation reputedly given by a Texas A&M professor to explain it h* |> in terms his students could understand. |>  
 |> Capitalismn |> You have two cows.  |> You sell one and buy a bull.c/ |> Your herd multiplies, and the economy grows.t* |> You sell them and retire on the income. |> i |> Enron CapitalismdE |> You have two cows. You sell three of them to your publicly listed oI |> company, using letters of credit opened by your brother-in-law at the tJ |> bank, then execute a debt/equity swap with an associated general offer K |> so that you get all four cows back, with a tax exemption for five cows.  J |> The milk rights of the six cows are transferred via an intermediary to K |> a Cayman Island company secretly owned by your CFO who sells the rights aI |> to all seven cows back to your listed company. The annual report says e; |> the company owns eight cows, with an option on six more.m |> iG |> Now do you see why a company with $62 billion in assets is declaringw |> bankruptcy?     a  9 OK, I think I understand now.  Just one question, though.j  % Who gets to keep the seventeen cows??    bill   -- 2J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   n   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:20:18 +0100e9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>s0 Subject: Re: OT: Humour - Capitalism Enron style' Message-ID: <3C727B42.3CE242A9@aaa.com>n  1 Noone, but the tax payers have to pay for them...    Jan-Erik Sderholm.o   Bill Gunshannon wrote: > ; > OK, I think I understand now.  Just one question, though.y > ' > Who gets to keep the seventeen cows??n >e   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 08:58:47 -0600- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) A Subject: Re: OT: Source code - DECnet socket applications for VMSb3 Message-ID: <ZcJOet1Y0UGa@eisner.encompasserve.org>x  c In article <3F6vRWgM+oni@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:iX > In article <Qn6b8.90$YS1.635@news.cpqcorp.net>, "Upadhyaya" <ups@hotvoice.com> writes: > N >> Where can I get sample source codeof an application applications which uses" >> DECnet sockets and runs on VMS? > E > I have never heard of a "DECnet socket" and I have been programmingt. > on VMS for 22 years (and DECnet for longer). > ? > If you mean just "uses DECnet" try the VMS documentation set.i  A    A DECnet mailbox provides roughly the same kind of handle on ao@    network connection as a TCP/IP socket.  In Ultrix, DECnet was:    provided via sockets by specifying the DECnet protocol.   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 09:36:53 -0800$ From: czajanek@scholze.de (Czajanek)B Subject: Poor Performance with OpenVMS Advanced Server and TCPWare= Message-ID: <c6aeb53c.0202190936.7206562b@posting.google.com>M  7 Until yet there is no possibility in TCPWARE to trigger23 the performance of our OpenVMS Advanced Server likec4 "$ucx set prot /tcp=noacknoledge" or something else.5 Therefore our client users report a very slow server.   4 The compaq support told us in setting this parameter8 will increase the performance from the "Advanced Server"( about 200%. But we have TCPWARE not UCX.  : The TCPWARE Support said: The application have to set this@ parameter. Our drivers and ip-stacks are capable to accept this.  8 Now we are sitting between two chairs playing Ping-Pong.  F Shall we trash our OpenVMS-Platforms??? going to Microtrash or Linux??    r -- l Hope we get help!!   U. Czajaneks SCHOLZE Ing. GmbHu   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:47:26 +0100r- From: Serge ZANGHERI <serge.zangheri@sema.fr>r Subject: print on OCE copier' Message-ID: <3C72738E.861C1F53@sema.fr>a   Hi,F9 is it possible to print from vax-vms to copier OCE 3155 ?b thanxr Sergej   ------------------------------   Date: 19 Feb 2002 04:02 CST ' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins)  Subject: Re: Problem with DEC Cb- Message-ID: <19FEB200204024083@gerg.tamu.edu>0  * Niclas Jansson <j4nss0n@0xe.net> writes...D }DEC C complains about my include files when I try to compile ircii.   How unfortunate for you.  ? Considering the information you have given us, or lack thereof,b9 exactly what sort of a solution do you think you can get?d  B By the way - the problem is almost certainly with your program andD not DEC C. Perhaps you should consult the appropriate documentation,D the on-line help (as in the stuff you get when you enter HELP on the  command line) may be sufficient.   --- Carl   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:38:29 -0000d/ From: Michael Zarlenga <zarlenga@conan.ids.net>e Subject: Re: Problem with DEC Ct/ Message-ID: <u74sblpre2tc01@corp.supernews.com>a  ' Niclas Jansson <j4nss0n@0xe.net> wrote:tE : DEC C complains about my include files when I try to compile ircii.4  + Most common problems I've run into would bes; 1. DECC$USER_INCLUDE (if you're using #include "file.h") or2<    DECC$SYSTEM_INCLUDE (if using #include <file.h> not being    defined properly.  : 2. The value of the /include or /nested_include qualifiers   Have you checked those?t   --   -- Mike Zarlenga   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 08:19:42 +0100 (MET)$& From: Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de>+ Subject: question about SET DISPLAY commandh6 Message-ID: <200202190719.IAA14736@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>   Hello,  J we do see a strange SET DISPLAY command behavior. We have an OpenVMS 7.1-2I AXP cluster. We do create a display with the SET DISPLAY /CREATE command.oE Then we create detached terminals (one to four) and exit the creationtI process. The first time we do that, the display device will be available.sC If we create a second display to the same server (!!!), the displaySC device is offline after exit of creation process. Is it possible to E change this behavior? Can we use an existend WSA device? If yes, how?9L How can I find out, with WSA device is connected to which node:server.screen5 and how many windows (processes) use this WSA device?o   TIA and regards Rudolf Wingert   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 09:20:10 +0100+ From: huber@vms.mppmu.mpg.de (Joseph Huber)i/ Subject: Re: question about SET DISPLAY command + Message-ID: <VpZrY9gev0l6@vms.mppmu.mpg.de>r  _ In article <200202190719.IAA14736@sinet1.fom.fgan.de>, Rudolf Wingert <win@fom.fgan.de> writes:-L > we do see a strange SET DISPLAY command behavior. We have an OpenVMS 7.1-2K > AXP cluster. We do create a display with the SET DISPLAY /CREATE command.eG > Then we create detached terminals (one to four) and exit the creationeK > process. The first time we do that, the display device will be available.fE > If we create a second display to the same server (!!!), the displayrE > device is offline after exit of creation process. Is it possible toiG > change this behavior? Can we use an existend WSA device? If yes, how?eN > How can I find out, with WSA device is connected to which node:server.screen7 > and how many windows (processes) use this WSA device?w  > TIA and regards Rudolf Wingert > L I can't answer the question why a display disappears, but to check and reuseD existing displays can be done using f$device and show display/symbol (undocumented/unsupported ?):   G ========================================================================D $! Search for the node 'my_node' amungst the devices already created $! $ stream = 0
 $NEXT_DEV:. $ dev = f$device("_WS*","WORKSTATION",,stream). $ if dev .eqs. "" then goto create_new_display= $ IF F$LOCATE(":", dev) .GE. F$LENGTH(dev) THEN GOTO NEXT_DEV . $ dev = F$ELEMENT(0, ":", F$EDIT(dev, filter))5 $ IF .NOT. F$GETDVI(dev, "EXISTS") THEN GOTO NEXT_DEVA; $!       .OR. (F$GETDVI(dev, "OWNUIC") .NES. my_uic) THEN -  $! This may be the one...r $ DEFINE/USER SYS$OUTPUT NL: $ SHOW DISPLAY/SYMBOL 'dev'=7 $ IF DECW$DISPLAY_NODE .NES. my_node THEN GOTO NEXT_DEV=; $ IF DECW$DISPLAY_SERVER .NES. my_server THEN GOTO NEXT_DEVe; $ IF DECW$DISPLAY_SCREEN .NES. my_screen THEN GOTO NEXT_DEVi> $ IF DECW$DISPLAY_TRANSPORT .NES. transport THEN GOTO NEXT_DEV* $ DEFINE/PROCESS/NOLOG DECW$DISPLAY 'dev':& $ DEFINE/JOB/NOLOG DECW$DISPLAY 'dev': $ GOTO DONEs $CREATE_NEW_DISPLAY:: $ SET DISPLAY/CREATE/NODE='my_node'/TRANSPORT='transport'-& /SERVER='my_server'/SCREEN='my_screen': $ DEFINE/JOB/NOLOG DECW$DISPLAY 'F$TRNLNM("DECW$DISPLAY")' $! $DONE:I =========================================================================   M This is based on code posted here many years ago, but use f$device to get thea list of WS* devices.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:08:54 -0500n- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>a/ Subject: Re: question about SET DISPLAY commandU, Message-ID: <3C7286A4.1C7795F4@videotron.ca>   Rudolf Wingert wrote:OK > process. The first time we do that, the display device will be available. E > If we create a second display to the same server (!!!), the displaypE > device is offline after exit of creation process. Is it possible toi; > change this behavior? Can we use an existend WSA device?    ' I think that you must reuse the device.-  H The trick is to capture the logical when you create the display and then re-use it for further ones.c   eg:   ; $SET DISPLAY/CREATE/TRANSPORT=TCPIP/NODE=BIKE  BIKE$DISPLAY0D $RUN/DETACHED/OUTPUT='F$TRNLNM("BIKE$DISPLAY") SYS$SYSTEM:DECW$CLOCKG $RUN/DETACHED/OUTPUT='F$TRNLNM("BIKE$DISPLAY") SYS$SYSTEM:DECW$CALENDARt    M (you may need to also put /INPUT in there, pointing to same device. Note that=K in a RUN/DETACHED, the created process doesn't inherit the logicals of yourS process,hence the F$TRNLNM )  H Note that when you specify a logical name with the /CREATE, your current display is not affected.  5 But you can set it to default to the other node with:t   SET DISPLAY BIKE$DISPLAY  B (you might want to define your node's display first with a define ) mynode$display = F$TRNLNM("DECW$DISPLAY")   9 this way, you can SET DISPLAY back and forth as you wish.D   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:42:20 +0000 * From: Paul Parsons <nospam@nospam.nowhere> Subject: Semaphores.. Message-ID: <3C72482C.4727C785@nospam.nowhere>  H I'm trying to port some code from Solaris to VMS and it involves the useH of semaphores to prevent more than one user from accessing a resource at the same time.  9 Can anybody suggest, please, how this can be done in VMS?=@ Obviously some examples would be useful too, if you know of any.   Thanks, Paul   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:57:03 +0100 2 From: "Ren Schelbaum" <rene.schelbaum@datakom.at> Subject: Re: Semaphores G Message-ID: <3c7259a9$0$18322$6e365a64@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at>.  = "Paul Parsons" <nospam@nospam.nowhere> schrieb im Newsbeitragn( news:3C72482C.4727C785@nospam.nowhere...J > I'm trying to port some code from Solaris to VMS and it involves the useJ > of semaphores to prevent more than one user from accessing a resource at > the same time. >o; > Can anybody suggest, please, how this can be done in VMS?gB > Obviously some examples would be useful too, if you know of any. >e > Thanks, Paul   Hi!e  C Calls to Lockmanager (sys$enq(w)) would be your friend in this case?   Ren   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 14:12:25 -0000h* From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk> Subject: Re: Semaphoresp+ Message-ID: <a4tmg0$sam@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>i  ` "Paul Parsons" <nospam@nospam.nowhere> wrote in message news:3C72482C.4727C785@nospam.nowhere...J > I'm trying to port some code from Solaris to VMS and it involves the useJ > of semaphores to prevent more than one user from accessing a resource at > the same time.  C Semaphores. Unfortunately not the easiest of things to port to VMS.=  ; > Can anybody suggest, please, how this can be done in VMS?_B > Obviously some examples would be useful too, if you know of any.  A The place to start is the programming concepts manual, chapter 7.o/ 'Synchronizing Access to Resources'. Online at:5< http://www.openvms.compaq.com:8000/73final/5841/5841PRO.HTML5 (slightly hard to get your head around but thorough).d   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:40:27 -0000!/ From: Michael Zarlenga <zarlenga@conan.ids.net>- Subject: Re: Semaphoresc/ Message-ID: <u74sfbf92iur30@corp.supernews.com>.  + Paul Parsons <nospam@nospam.nowhere> wrote:AJ : I'm trying to port some code from Solaris to VMS and it involves the useJ : of semaphores to prevent more than one user from accessing a resource at : the same time.  ; : Can anybody suggest, please, how this can be done in VMS?OB : Obviously some examples would be useful too, if you know of any.  = With VMS there are many way to synchronize and even serialize A access to resources, on a system-wide or even cluster-wide basis.e  $ See the Programming Concepts Manual.   -- 4 -- Mike Zarlenga   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 10:32:00 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)n Subject: Re: Semaphores 3 Message-ID: <xscHSXg$icPa@eisner.encompasserve.org>=  | In article <3c7259a9$0$18322$6e365a64@newsreader02.highway.telekom.at>, "Ren Schelbaum" <rene.schelbaum@datakom.at> writes: > ? > "Paul Parsons" <nospam@nospam.nowhere> schrieb im Newsbeitrag_* > news:3C72482C.4727C785@nospam.nowhere...K >> I'm trying to port some code from Solaris to VMS and it involves the use-K >> of semaphores to prevent more than one user from accessing a resource at  >> the same time.h >>< >> Can anybody suggest, please, how this can be done in VMS?C >> Obviously some examples would be useful too, if you know of any.e >> >> Thanks, Paul( >  > Hi!f > E > Calls to Lockmanager (sys$enq(w)) would be your friend in this caser  E But remember that like many synchronization methods, the Lock ManagertC is only effective with cooperating pieces of software.  If you need C something to prevent malicious users from writing their own programj9 to spoil things, it will take more than the Lock Manager.    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:58:04 GMTn. From: "Fim Wstberg" <fim.wastberg@fimator.se> Subject: Re: SemaphoresA4 Message-ID: <wuvc8.19826$n4.3568132@newsc.telia.net>  : "Paul Parsons" <nospam@nospam.nowhere> skrev i meddelandet( news:3C72482C.4727C785@nospam.nowhere...J > I'm trying to port some code from Solaris to VMS and it involves the useJ > of semaphores to prevent more than one user from accessing a resource at > the same time. >r; > Can anybody suggest, please, how this can be done in VMS?dB > Obviously some examples would be useful too, if you know of any. >: > Thanks, Paul  2 A rather simple way is to lock a record in a file.> If it not possible to lock the record, wait some milliseconds,= than try agin. When the lock is ok, you can use the resource,l@ and when you don't need the resource any more, release the lock.G I have ben using this method for may years in different OS, works fine.o   Fim.Wastberg@fimator.ses   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 17:54:50 +0000 * From: Paul Parsons <nospam@nospam.nowhere> Subject: Re: Semaphores . Message-ID: <3C72916A.E20D24C0@nospam.nowhere>   My gratitude to you all.= Now that you've pointed me in the right direction, I'll do my , "homework". I'll let you know how it goes...   Paul   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 19:05:24 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> 3 Subject: sexist language (was: Younger recruits...) ; Message-ID: <01KEGW324FMM8ZKA1M@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>-  F > ``They'' is grammatically incorrect; I tend to use ``the <functionalE > name>,'' but that gets awkward.  You're right about ``she'' (why doiG > these authors think that using the female pronoun is less sexist thanmF > the male?'' and of course ``s/he'' is an abomination.  ``He or she''B > is probably most correct and gender-neutral but is also awkward.  K And now for something completely different---the bogus Hungarian-English=20 = phrase book!  (Apologies to folks who aren't following the=20   hovercraft-full-of-eels thread.)  J Hungarian has a non-gendered 3d person singular pronoun, =F6 (o-Umlaut or= =20i compose o " ).   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:07:39 -0800u# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>e7 Subject: RE: sexist language (was: Younger recruits...)a9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIAENDECAA.tom@kednos.com>u   > -----Original Message-----B > From: Phillip Helbig [mailto:HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com]+ > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 10:05 AMb > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comt5 > Subject: sexist language (was: Younger recruits...)u >t >lH > > ``They'' is grammatically incorrect; I tend to use ``the <functionalG > > name>,'' but that gets awkward.  You're right about ``she'' (why doaI > > these authors think that using the female pronoun is less sexist thaneH > > the male?'' and of course ``s/he'' is an abomination.  ``He or she''D > > is probably most correct and gender-neutral but is also awkward. > J > And now for something completely different---the bogus Hungarian-English< > phrase book!  (Apologies to folks who aren't following the" > hovercraft-full-of-eels thread.) >?I > Hungarian has a non-gendered 3d person singular pronoun,  (o-Umlaut ore > compose o " ). >i  G Is this the origin of the phrase, "No man is an " :-)  (Swenglish pun)i   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 15:27:57 +0100iC From: "Jean Paul COMPTOUR" <jean-paul.comptour@ceric-automation.fr>2 Subject: Sixel-to-PLC53 Message-ID: <3c726001$0$4621$626a54ce@news.free.fr>    Hi All,:    K Does anybody know whether exists a Sixel-to-PLC5 protocol conversion box or 
 software ?  I We use Sixel writing directly to a DEC printer connected to a serial portn under VMS 7.1-2 = and plan to use a market PC printer like HP DeskJet ou Epson.    Thanks for any idea.   -- Jean-Paul COMPTOUR& jean-paul.comptour@ceric-automation.fr Tel (33)380267187- Fax (33)380217534@   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:34:54 -0500k- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>0 Subject: Re: Sixel-to-PLC5, Message-ID: <3C728CBB.7FE4539B@videotron.ca>   Jean Paul COMPTOUR wrote:. > 	 > Hi All,a > M > Does anybody know whether exists a Sixel-to-PLC5 protocol conversion box orh > software ?  L Not sure about PCL output, but the DCPS software on VMS will happily convert) SIXEL  to feed postscript to the printer.M   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 09:18:10 -0700n+ From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@mmaz.com>gB Subject: Re: Sixel-to-PLC5 - Almost, how about Sixel to Postscript' Message-ID: <3C727AC2.5000208@mmaz.com>u  H I did come across a Sixel to Postscript convertor which almost gets you 6 there since a lot of HP printers support postscript...  F http://www.agh.cc.kcl.ac.uk/files/vms/oldpds/index.txt and the soures  are pasted below...8   Regards,   Barryh   /* 6-OCT-88 George Carretteo%    [Note: Unsupported, Public Domain]v  aE    This work was supported by Mitech Corporation. 74 Junction Square.m%    Concord MA. 01742. (508)-371-2002.   TN    Convert a sixel bitmap file into a post-script file, suitable for including@    into Tex documents. The file may also be printed stand-alone.  u    The arguments are3    $ sixelps <infile> <outfile> [dpi] [xsize ysize]h  pG    Where dpi is the number of dots per inch (default 300) of the bitmap H    on output. The xsize and ysize may be given to select a subset of the
    bitmap.  eK    On a VAXSTATION the workstation "printer setup" should specify an aspectoI    ratio of 1 to 1 and a "ribbon or toner saver" setup of positive image.rK    A color display setup with display background of white or gray generally 7    gives the best results when making screen printouts.-  - */  - #include <stdio.h> #include <errno.h> #include <stdlib.h>   G void convert_sixel_file(); void prescan_sixel_file(); void write_ps_program();  6 main(argc,argv)   int argc; char **argv;  {FILE *fi,*fo;  int xsize, ysize,dpi;  char truename[512];2  if (!((argc == 3) || (argc == 4) || (argc == 6)))G    {fprintf(stderr,"sixelps <infile> <outfile> [dpi] [xsize ysize]\n");w
     exit(1);}s!  if (!(fi = fopen(argv[1],"rb")))u&    {perror(argv[1]);exit(vaxc$errno);}  if (!(fo = fopen(argv[2],"w"a7           /* ,"ctx=rec","mrs=512","rat=cr","rfm=var" */ 
           ))) &    {perror(argv[2]);exit(vaxc$errno);}  if (fgetname(fi,truename))f5    printf("Converting sixel file \"%s\"\n",truename);n  if (fgetname(fo,truename))o4    printf("Into postscript file \"%s\"\n",truename);4  if (argc >= 4) dpi = atol(argv[3]); else dpi = 300;2  printf("with %d dots per inch resolution\n",dpi);  if (argc == 6)L    {xsize = atol(argv[4]);     ysize = atol(argv[5]);}   else-)    {prescan_sixel_file(&xsize,&ysize,fi);      fclose(fi);0$     if (!(fi = fopen(argv[1],"rb")))*       {perror(argv[1]);exit(vaxc$errno);}}2  if (xsize & 7) xsize = xsize + (8 - (xsize & 7));0  printf("xsize = %d, ysize = %d\n",xsize,ysize);&  write_ps_program(xsize,ysize,dpi,fo);'  convert_sixel_file(xsize,ysize,fi,fo);o#  fprintf(fo,"\n\n%%end(plot)\n\n");.B  fprintf(fo,"%% the showpage should be ignored when inserting\n");+  fprintf(fo,"%% into a larger document\n");t  fprintf(fo,"showpage\n");
  fclose(fo);}e    #define PS_LLX 36s #define PS_LLY 36e   ( void write_ps_program(xsize,ysize,dpi,f)      int xsize,ysize; FILE *f; {int xsizeu,ysizeu;   xsizeu = (xsize*72)/dpi;0  ysizeu = (ysize*72)/dpi;n  fprintf(f,.6      "%%%%BoundingBox: %d %d %d %d\n%%plot follows\n",      /* llx lly urx ury */0      PS_LLX,PS_LLY,PS_LLX+xsizeu,PS_LLY+ysizeu);  fprintf(f,"%%begin(plot)\n");E  fprintf(f,"%% bitmap image converted from sixel format follows.\n");i;  fprintf(f,"%% intended to be inserted into a document\n"); L  fprintf(f,"%% with a program which includes only those commands inside\n");<  fprintf(f,"%% the begin(plot) and end(plot) statements\n");.  fprintf(f,"%d %d translate\n",PS_LLX,PS_LLY);%  fprintf(f,"/picstr 1 string def\n");r*  fprintf(f,"%d %d scale\n",xsizeu,ysizeu);  fprintf(f,"%d %d 1 \n",      xsize,ysize);!  fprintf(f,"[%d 0 0 -%d 0 %d]\n",t       xsize,ysize,ysize);t=  fprintf(f,"{currentfile picstr readhexstring pop} image\n");) }e  i  S #define CH_ESC (27)   a skip_sixel_header(f)
      FILE *f;- {int c;-
  c = getc(f);9M  if (c != CH_ESC) ch_err("first character is 0%o, expecting 0%o\n",c,CH_ESC);:
  c = getc(f);bH  if (c != 'P') ch_err("second character is 0%o, expecting 0%o\n",c,'P');  while ((c = getc(f)) != 'q')3J    if (c == EOF) ch_err("got 0%o before 0%o at start of file\n",EOF,'q');}    read_decnum(f)
      FILE *f;a	 {int c,n;v  n = 0;V
  while (1)    {c = getc(f);D     if (c == EOF) ch_err("end of file inside decimal number\n",0,0);9     if ((c < '0') || (c > '9')) {ungetc(c,f); return(n);}e     n = 10*n + (c - '0');}}e     voidh prescan_sixel_file(px,py,f)l      int *px, *py; FILE *f;n {int max_nx,nx,c,i,fresh_line;  max_nx = 0;	  *py = 0;e  skip_sixel_header(f);  nx = 0;  fresh_line = 1;	  while(1)     {c = getc(f);     switch (c)       {case '!':      i = read_decnum(f);
      getc(f);t      if (fresh_line)        {*py = *py + 6;%         if (nx > max_nx) max_nx = nx;r         nx = i;          fresh_line = 0;}	      elsef        nx = nx + i;       break;e        case '#':<      ch_err("color change character 0%o not handled\n",c,0);        case '$':9      ch_err("overprint character 0%o not handled\n",c,0);         case '-':      fresh_line = 1;      break;=        case CH_ESC:       c = getc(f);o      if (c != '\\')t@        ch_err("expecting terminator 0%o, but got 0%o\n",'\\',c);"      if (nx > max_nx) max_nx = nx;      *px = max_nx;      return;        default: !      if ((c < 077) || (c > 0176))T=        ch_err("got character 0%o, out of sixel range\n",c,0);v      if (fresh_line)        {*py = *py + 6;%         if (nx > max_nx) max_nx = nx;G         nx = 1;C         fresh_line = 0;}	      else         nx = nx + 1;}}}  E char *read_sixel_bitmap(); void write_sixel_bitmap();  I  voidO% convert_sixel_file(xsize,ysize,fi,fo)   int xsize,ysize;V  FILE *fi,*fo; {char *bits;*  bits = read_sixel_bitmap(xsize,ysize,fi);  fclose(fi);)  write_sixel_bitmap(xsize,ysize,bits,fo);N
  free(bits);}H  G      int nbits_to_nbytes(x)      int x;I( {return( (x >> 3) + ((x & 7) ? 1 : 0));}     void & write_sixel_bitmap(xsize,ysize,bits,f)  int xsize,ysize;D  char *bits;	  FILE *f;a {int j,n,c;R(  static char hex[] = "0123456789ABCDEF";"  n = nbits_to_nbytes(xsize*ysize);0  printf("%d bytes in hex dump of bitmap\n",n*2);  for(j=0;j<n;++j)='    {putc(hex[(bits[j] & 0xF0) >> 4],f);s     putc(hex[bits[j] & 0xF],f);y&     if ((j % 20) == 19) putc('\n',f);}  putc('\n',f);}i  .  void-# set_sixel(c,x,y,xsize,ysize,bitmap)u      int c,x,y,xsize,ysize;n      char *bitmap;+ {int j,yy,bit_index,byte_index,bit_pos,bit;e  if (x >= xsize) return;  for(j=0;j<6;++j)     {yy = j + y;4     if (yy >= ysize) return;     bit = (c>>j) & 1;T     if (!bit) continue;      bit_index = (yy*xsize) + x;b      byte_index = bit_index >> 3;"     bit_pos = 7 - (bit_index & 7);B     bitmap[byte_index] = bitmap[byte_index] & ~(bit << bit_pos);}}  b  char *   read_sixel_bitmap(xsize,ysize,f)  int xsize,ysize;c	  FILE *f;h {int x,y,c,i,j;   char *bitmap;8  bitmap = (char *) malloc(nbits_to_nbytes(xsize*ysize));1  memset(bitmap,255,nbits_to_nbytes(xsize*ysize));   x = 0;   y = 0;L  skip_sixel_header(f);	  while(1)     {c = getc(f);     switch (c)       {case '!':      i = read_decnum(f);      c = getc(f);E      for(j=0;j<i;++j)E2        {set_sixel(c - 077,x,y,xsize,ysize,bitmap);
         ++x;}       break;r        case '#':<      ch_err("color change character 0%o not handled\n",c,0);        case '$':9      ch_err("overprint character 0%o not handled\n",c,0);a        case '-':      x = 0;m      y = y + 6;E      break;t        case CH_ESC:c      c = getc(f);       if (c != '\\')t@        ch_err("expecting terminator 0%o, but got 0%o\n",'\\',c);      return(bitmap);        default:i!      if ((c < 077) || (c > 0176))N=        ch_err("got character 0%o, out of sixel range\n",c,0);f/      set_sixel(c - 077,x,y,xsize,ysize,bitmap);-      ++x;}}}  1  e  0  1 ch_err(msg,c1,c2)m      char *msg; int c1,c2; {fprintf(stderr,msg,c1,c2);e
  exit(1);}       Barry Treahy, Jr. wrote:  G > If you must create a convertor from scratch, you may want to look at tG > the Unix PBM program and using it as a template might help make your u > work easierl...m > 2 > http://www.itc.virginia.edu/research/netpbm.html >V > Barryi >l >o >e > Jean Paul COMPTOUR wrote:i >o
 >> Hi All, >> >>H >> Does anybody know whether exists a Sixel-to-PLC5 protocol conversion 	 >> box or 
 >> software ?c >>H >> We use Sixel writing directly to a DEC printer connected to a serial  >> port$ >> under VMS 7.1-2@ >> and plan to use a market PC printer like HP DeskJet ou Epson. >> >> Thanks for any idea.  >> >> --  >> Jean-Paul COMPTOURr) >> jean-paul.comptour@ceric-automation.fro >> Tel (33)380267187 >> Fax (33)380217534 >> >> >> >e   -- r  @ Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO   A E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028u   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:53:39 +0800a- From: David B Sneddon <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> < Subject: Strange status value - when can I expect to get it?( Message-ID: <02022000533901.04934@bwian>  	 Hi Folks,h  A Whilst looking through STARLET.REQ the other day, I came across apA reference to SS$_FISH.  I determined the value (decimal 2928) ando& did "$ exit 2928" to see the following  - %SYSTEM-W-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eelsi  # This only appears to be Alpha V7.3.S+ Any one have any idea what it is all about?pA (Good to see that someone at Compaq still has a sense of humour.)t   Regards, Dave.  -- tI David B Sneddon (dbs)  OpenVMS Systems Programmer   dbsneddon@bigpond.com,I Sneddo's quick guide ...          http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/uI DBS freeware at ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htmcI "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" Lennon    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 18:16:42 +0100 (MET)e9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>-@ Subject: Re: Strange status value - when can I expect to get it?; Message-ID: <01KEGU1XCNWY8ZKA1M@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   C > Whilst looking through STARLET.REQ the other day, I came across amC > reference to SS$_FISH.  I determined the value (decimal 2928) and ( > did "$ exit 2928" to see the following > / > %SYSTEM-W-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eelsr > % > This only appears to be Alpha V7.3.d- > Any one have any idea what it is all about?OC > (Good to see that someone at Compaq still has a sense of humour.)   F This appears to be in all 7.3 systems, i.e. not a local prank at your  site.r  E SS is probably secure shell.  FISH is a freeware secure-shell client  I (but I think the corresponding guru, Richard Levitte, has dropped it (or -< shall we say "thrown it back"?) in favour of something else.  G As for the phrase itself, its origins date back to one of the all-time @G classic Monty Python sketches, the bogus Hungarian-English phrase book.e  E VMS quotes of the day: "Do you want to come back to my place, bouncy w, bouncy?"  "My nipples explode with delight."   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:11:33 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@mmaz.com>t@ Subject: Re: Strange status value - when can I expect to get it?' Message-ID: <3C729555.6040507@mmaz.com>    David B Sneddon wrote:  
 >Hi Folks, >gB >Whilst looking through STARLET.REQ the other day, I came across aB >reference to SS$_FISH.  I determined the value (decimal 2928) and' >did "$ exit 2928" to see the followingy >n. >%SYSTEM-W-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels >e$ >This only appears to be Alpha V7.3., >Any one have any idea what it is all about?B >(Good to see that someone at Compaq still has a sense of humour.) >m	 >Regards,e >Dave. >tI There used to be a substitute message file from years past that could be nF used to replace a majority of the system messages, typically on April F Fools Day.  It was fun and funny for a day or two but hot its obvious 6 draw-backs...  Anyone remember where that file is/was?   Barry    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:18:52 -0700.% From: Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com>g@ Subject: Re: Strange status value - when can I expect to get it?B Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020219111714.00b1a600@raptor.psccos.com>  / At 11:11 AM 2/19/2002, Barry Treahy, Jr. wrote:p >David B Sneddon wrote:n >n >>Hi Folks,i >>C >>Whilst looking through STARLET.REQ the other day, I came across asC >>reference to SS$_FISH.  I determined the value (decimal 2928) ando( >>did "$ exit 2928" to see the following >>/ >>%SYSTEM-W-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels  >>% >>This only appears to be Alpha V7.3.n- >>Any one have any idea what it is all about? C >>(Good to see that someone at Compaq still has a sense of humour.)o >>
 >>Regards, >>Dave.sJ >There used to be a substitute message file from years past that could be G >used to replace a majority of the system messages, typically on April  G >Fools Day.  It was fun and funny for a day or two but hot its obvious .7 >draw-backs...  Anyone remember where that file is/was?   J No, but I remember in Datatrieve, if you used the line "AT MIDDLE OF PAGE"G (instead of "AT BOTTOM OF PAGE" or "AT TOP OF PAGE"), you would get thehI message: '"At middle of page" is innovative, but, alas, illegal'.  One ofe3 my favorites (along with the embedded Wombat lore).M   ------I +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+ I | Dan O'Reilly                  |                                       |bI | Principal Engineer            |  "Why should I care about posterity?  |sI | Process Software              |   What's posterity ever done for me?" | I | http://www.process.com        |                    -- Groucho Marx    |wI +-------------------------------+---------------------------------------+E   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 13:27:00 -0500 - From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca>a@ Subject: Re: Strange status value - when can I expect to get it?2 Message-ID: <_Nwc8.16386$X2.185188@nnrp1.uunet.ca>  6 "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@mmaz.com> wrote in message! news:3C729555.6040507@mmaz.com...: >...J > There used to be a substitute message file from years past that could beG > used to replace a majority of the system messages, typically on AprileG > Fools Day.  It was fun and funny for a day or two but hot its obviousr8 > draw-backs...  Anyone remember where that file is/was? >...  K I have a copy of APRILFOOLS.MSG it is 110 blocks long. It does things like;l   $ purge/logt" %PURGE-I-NOFILPURG, *.*;* deleted? $ assign x.x xx/loga2 %DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, XX's old value was stupid anyway  J If anyone wants to put it on a web site and serve it out then let me know.     --E AOL CD Use #3415; As a handy prop when trying to explain the sport ofl% Curling to your Mother and your Wife.s   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 08:21:50 -0600- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)oY Subject: Re: Sv: Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was The  demise       of  3 Message-ID: <mZsvaJrqHuxY@eisner.encompasserve.org>m  | In article <yKxb8.25353$Nv5.721800@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Stephen Fuld" <s.fuld.pleaseremove@att.net> writes:  I > As an example, I used to teach Fortran to people who already knew COBOLTN > (Yes, it was a long time ago).  In COBOL, there is a "Perform" verb which isM > sort of like an internal procedure call but with all the variables visible. K > It essentially transfers control to code at some label, executes the codeuH > until the next label then returns.  This encouraged a style that said,L > essentially "If something is true, go perform code to handle that." So theN > code to handle the situation had to be physically removed from the mainline. > K > In contrast, most Fortrans of the time, didn't have such a construct, but-K > had conditional if statements where the conditionally performed statement@K > could be a goto.  This encouraged a style like "if something is NOT true,dK > goto around the code that handled it", followed immediately by that code.k >   F    Thus invented: the COME FROM construct.  Old FORTRAN-IV code, with C    very large subroutines.  Instead of writing a new subroutine to yE    handle common code, the programmers were in the habit of labeling -I    it and jumping there with a GOTO.  Then a variable (often an ASSIGNED hG    GOTO variable) was used to tell where to GOTO to get back (where didtE    I come from?).  Somewhat like a BASIC GOSUB, but more painfull to      maintain.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 01:34:48 -0700H4 From: Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca>Y Subject: Re: Sv: Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was The demise       of  a8 Message-ID: <f8j37uorduc265cossfcl9rcpnbv3pbnk9@4ax.com>  + On 18 Feb 2002 17:12:26 -0700, Joe Pfeiffert <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote:n  3 >hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu (Richard E. Hawkins) writes:  >>  I >> and much more recent, too--a couple of years back, you would regularlygI >> hear folks calling for their favorite change to language justifying itT= >> on the grounds that it will change how people think . . . y >eG >And they've gotten their way, too.  I know far better than to refer tob6 >a generic programmer as ``he'' in anything I write...  A I've used the plurals "they", etc. or "the <functional name>" fors; over 25 years and will *NOT* buy a technical book that uses @ "she", as it disturbs the flow of reading the content, besides a@ stupid attempt at being priggishly pro-feminist: if the intended@ audience is entirely male or female, use that pronoun, otherwise= use something different but correct. Most of these books have<, audiences which are two nines or more male.    -- c  9 Thanks. Take care, Brian Inglis 	Calgary, Alberta, Canadav  F Brian.Inglis@CSi.com 	(Brian dot Inglis at SystematicSw dot ab dot ca),     fake address		use address above to reply   tosspam@aol.com abuse@aol.com abuse@yahoo.com abuse@hotmail.com abuse@msn.com abuse@sprint.com abuse@earthlink.com abuse@cadvision.com abuse@ibsystems.com uce@ftc.gov 						spam traps   ------------------------------  ! Date: Tue, 19 Feb 02 09:35:07 GMTt From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Y Subject: Re: Sv: Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was The demise       of  C+ Message-ID: <a4te51$5bj$5@bob.news.rcn.net>i  ( In article <1bn0y6fhxx.fsf@cs.nmsu.edu>,-    Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> wrote: 3 >hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu (Richard E. Hawkins) writes:w >> dI >> and much more recent, too--a couple of years back, you would regularly[I >> hear folks calling for their favorite change to language justifying ity= >> on the grounds that it will change how people think . . . ) > G >And they've gotten their way, too.  I know far better than to refer to 6 >a generic programmer as ``he'' in anything I write...    6 grrrrr....boy, did you just push a hot button of mine.  9 I couldn't believe how much time and money was wasted on p3 all of that crap.  Just think of the additional inki; and paper to increase a two-character word to a [whatever]-u; character word.  Our notebook set were large enough withoutd9 having to increase it to yet another notebook in order tog= accomodate people whose intention was to hinder productivity.i< Increasing the number of notebooks meant wasting the time of) every single programmer out in the field.:   /BAH     /BAH  ' Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.    ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 10:29:31 -0700) From: Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu>vY Subject: Re: Sv: Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was The demise       of  e( Message-ID: <1bn0y52xdw.fsf@cs.nmsu.edu>  6 Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca> writes:I > >And they've gotten their way, too.  I know far better than to refer tot8 > >a generic programmer as ``he'' in anything I write... > C > I've used the plurals "they", etc. or "the <functional name>" for = > over 25 years and will *NOT* buy a technical book that usessB > "she", as it disturbs the flow of reading the content, besides aB > stupid attempt at being priggishly pro-feminist: if the intendedB > audience is entirely male or female, use that pronoun, otherwise? > use something different but correct. Most of these books have=. > audiences which are two nines or more male.   D ``They'' is grammatically incorrect; I tend to use ``the <functionalC name>,'' but that gets awkward.  You're right about ``she'' (why do)E these authors think that using the female pronoun is less sexist than)D the male?'' and of course ``s/he'' is an abomination.  ``He or she''@ is probably most correct and gender-neutral but is also awkward.  C ``He'' was good old standard English for an unspecified person, andiE was quite good enough.  Obsessing about gender-neutrality in languagenE does nothing but degrade the language...  I could also rant about thelC deliberate dstruction of ``fireman,'' ``fisherman,'' ``policeman,''!, ``policewoman,'' ``waiter,'' ``waitress...'' -- i< Joseph J. Pfeiffer, Jr., Ph.D.       Phone -- (505) 646-1605< Department of Computer Science       FAX   -- (505) 646-1002E New Mexico State University          http://www.cs.nmsu.edu/~pfeiffercM Southwestern NM Regional Science and Engr Fair:  http://www.nmsu.edu/~scifairc   ------------------------------   Date: 19 Feb 2002 04:42 CST ' From: carl@gerg.tamu.edu (Carl Perkins) > Subject: Re: VMS HELP glitch (was Re: Proposal - Hobbyist FAQ)- Message-ID: <19FEB200204423650@gerg.tamu.edu>t  y In article <01KEFC6D8ZG28ZKA1M@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>, Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> writes...|E }> My gripe with VMS HELP: Why does it go back to Topic after listing,H }> subtopics for the topic you got right but with a misguessed subtopic? } B }You mean it's supposed to know that you mis-typed ACL but didn't  }mis-type SET?  D Of course. It has a topic called SET. It just showed you the correctC subtopics for that topic. If it didn't think you got the SET right,V- why did it show you the subtopic list for it?x   --- Carl   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 07:46:34 -0800) From: google@mccready.com (Gary McCready)n7 Subject: VMS/Unix/Alpha NYC Event Wed., Feb 20th., 2002:< Message-ID: <6e64ea70.0202190746.b839004@posting.google.com>  A The below was emailed to me - you may also read it and sign up atrB www.compaq-signup.com/alpha - as of 2/19, it was still possible to; register, and they will *probably* let you register on-site+  ; Compaq IT Forum - a free seminar devoted to AlphaServers att' the Grand Hyatt Hotel in New York City.   B At the last Alpha Diamond Forum in May, 2001, we had standing room only.m@ This conference looks like it will be filled to capacity again. / Make plans to attend and reserve your seat now.z  4 The Compaq IT Forum features the AlphaServer Family   $ ~ Products, Services, and Partners ~   February 20, 2002  The Grand Hyatt Hotele Park Ave. & Grand Centraly
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 ----------6 Gary McCready - My postings are usually my opinions...  A Want to become involved in a New York Metro Encompass (pka DECUS) : Local User group focused on OpenVMS, Tru-64, VAX and Alpha- technologies? Please join our mailing list at % http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NYMLUG/1C http://groups.yahoo.com/group/NYMLUG/ - Next meeting (on Galaxy) inr Mid-March 2002.f   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:21:20 +0100 6 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jean=2DFran=E7ois=20PI=C9RONNE?= 6 Subject: Re: What is the best NFS package for OpenVMS?+ Message-ID: <3C726D70.A37FD9C4@laposte.net>O   Hi Bob,    > l > Jean-Franois PIRONNE  <jf.pieronne@laposte.net> wrote in message news:<3C6D2B11.62632B36@laposte.net>... > > Hi Bob,  > > A > > clearly you answer without carefully read the post of Grard:  > >rT > > The main part of his sentence is "Wasd is better", the fact it is free is just a > > supplementary information. > > N > > Where is the windoze/unix/linux mentality ? What is your problem with free > > software ? > >FP > > Wasd is by far superior to Purveyor, and i know sites which has migrate fromR > > Purveyor to Wasd, so it is an experimental fact, take a look at the ability to> > > run script under any account, or the throttling mechanism. > >0T > > If you want to convince me that Purveyor is bug free, i am sorry it's not what iR > > have seem. For examples, sometimes, Purveyor leak sockets and the cache of the- > > proxy have a lot of performance problems.T > >t > K > you criticize me for stating purveyor is superior, but then make the sameeJ > claim yourself about wasd ... multi-account scripting or throttling doesI > not make wasd superior, and I have never noticed any socket leaks using F > tcpware as my ip stack ... proxy cache works fine if you know how toJ > configure it correctly ... my goal is to run all synergy dibol dll's andI > incorporate synergys dibol xml parser to build xml pages and serve themiJ > thru synergy dibol dll's thru purveyor ... now that will be performance!  P I am happy that you have understood that just stating "product X is superior" is5 not very interesting, that was exactly my purpose :-) . But it can be interesting to compare features.  O Sure, multi account scripting and trottling make Wasd superior only if you needrL these features but these are very useful features (and we use these features
 extensively).G  O You seem to be a fervent supporter of VMS, nice. One of the main characteristictO of VMS is to be AST driven. But Purveyor as Apache use a lot of processes, Wasd(+ use only one process to serve static pages.e  I Another very nice feature, when you need high performance, is the CGIPlushM mechanism (something like fastCGI in Apache) but much simpler to use. Most oftL the times you can transform very quickly a CGI script into a CGIPlus script.I Our experience, and we have used various Web server on OpenVMS (includingrL FastTrack...), has convinced us that CGIPlus+Trottle is the best solution we have ever seen.r  J About the cache, generally, to be efficient a cache would contain a lot ofP files, but Purveyor store them in only one directory (Unix philosophy). Wasd canN store them in 64x64 directories using hashing mechanism which give much betterM performances, expecially during the purge of the cache. This is the result wetJ have observed in a french engineer school which has used Purveyor as proxyO before switching to Wasd: they have 150K-200K hits each days, 4500 accounts, soT it is not a insignificant case.u  K May be in a forthcoming version of Purveyor, there will be a better caching73 mechanism. Oh, i forgot, no forthcoming release ;-)      Regards,  
 Jean-Franois    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:22:02 +0000 % From: Alan Greig <a.greig@virgin.net>a6 Subject: Re: What is the best NFS package for OpenVMS?8 Message-ID: <ddu47u0g3i92uifd39mqboddjdonul3vo8@4ax.com>  : On Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:21:20 +0100, Jean-Franois PIRONNE  <jf.pieronne@laposte.net> wrote:   > K >About the cache, generally, to be efficient a cache would contain a lot oftQ >files, but Purveyor store them in only one directory (Unix philosophy). Wasd cana  D Must be 4 or 5 years since I last used Purveyor as a web cache but IB seem to recall you could fiddle with logical name search lists and> rotate the entries. New files would always end up in the firstC directory in the search list. Old ones could be found in any of thea@ directories. Might be misremembering and confusing with ANU News though.n  E In any case if Purveyor was running with a Spiralog volume as backingtB store there was no significant performance penalty in having largeB numbers of files per directory. Even by that stage in field test I< found Spiralog reliable enough to use for this function in aB university semi-production environment. And, of course, write back% caching, not write-through, was used.S  O >store them in 64x64 directories using hashing mechanism which give much better7N >performances, expecially during the purge of the cache. This is the result weK >have observed in a french engineer school which has used Purveyor as proxyuP >before switching to Wasd: they have 150K-200K hits each days, 4500 accounts, so  >it is not a insignificant case. > L >May be in a forthcoming version of Purveyor, there will be a better caching4 >mechanism. Oh, i forgot, no forthcoming release ;-) >h >f	 >Regards,  >  >Jean-Franois   -- Alan   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 09:50:35 -0800( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)6 Subject: Re: What is the best NFS package for OpenVMS?= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0202190950.7b5a740a@posting.google.com>d  j Jean-Franois PIRONNE 	<jf.pieronne@laposte.net> wrote in message news:<3C726D70.A37FD9C4@laposte.net>...	 > Hi Bob,  >  > > n > > Jean-Franois PIRONNE  <jf.pieronne@laposte.net> wrote in message news:<3C6D2B11.62632B36@laposte.net>...
 > > > Hi Bob,  > > > C > > > clearly you answer without carefully read the post of Grard:t > > >wV > > > The main part of his sentence is "Wasd is better", the fact it is free is just a  > > > supplementary information. > > >-P > > > Where is the windoze/unix/linux mentality ? What is your problem with free > > > software ? > > ><R > > > Wasd is by far superior to Purveyor, and i know sites which has migrate fromT > > > Purveyor to Wasd, so it is an experimental fact, take a look at the ability to@ > > > run script under any account, or the throttling mechanism. > > > V > > > If you want to convince me that Purveyor is bug free, i am sorry it's not what iT > > > have seem. For examples, sometimes, Purveyor leak sockets and the cache of the/ > > > proxy have a lot of performance problems.  > > >b > > M > > you criticize me for stating purveyor is superior, but then make the same.L > > claim yourself about wasd ... multi-account scripting or throttling doesK > > not make wasd superior, and I have never noticed any socket leaks usingeH > > tcpware as my ip stack ... proxy cache works fine if you know how toL > > configure it correctly ... my goal is to run all synergy dibol dll's andK > > incorporate synergys dibol xml parser to build xml pages and serve them-L > > thru synergy dibol dll's thru purveyor ... now that will be performance! > R > I am happy that you have understood that just stating "product X is superior" is7 > not very interesting, that was exactly my purpose :-)@0 > But it can be interesting to compare features. > Q > Sure, multi account scripting and trottling make Wasd superior only if you need@N > these features but these are very useful features (and we use these features > extensively).  > Q > You seem to be a fervent supporter of VMS, nice. One of the main characteristic Q > of VMS is to be AST driven. But Purveyor as Apache use a lot of processes, Wasdl- > use only one process to serve static pages.c > K > Another very nice feature, when you need high performance, is the CGIPlustO > mechanism (something like fastCGI in Apache) but much simpler to use. Most oftN > the times you can transform very quickly a CGI script into a CGIPlus script.K > Our experience, and we have used various Web server on OpenVMS (includingtN > FastTrack...), has convinced us that CGIPlus+Trottle is the best solution we > have ever seen.g > L > About the cache, generally, to be efficient a cache would contain a lot ofR > files, but Purveyor store them in only one directory (Unix philosophy). Wasd canP > store them in 64x64 directories using hashing mechanism which give much betterO > performances, expecially during the purge of the cache. This is the result wewL > have observed in a french engineer school which has used Purveyor as proxyQ > before switching to Wasd: they have 150K-200K hits each days, 4500 accounts, soe! > it is not a insignificant case.) > M > May be in a forthcoming version of Purveyor, there will be a better caching-5 > mechanism. Oh, i forgot, no forthcoming release ;-)0 >   L are you saying cgiplus is faster than dll's?  not from the testing we did on apache and purveyor ...c   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 08:39:17 -0600- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)1J Subject: Re: Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was The demise3 Message-ID: <K2bsGf4F3edb@eisner.encompasserve.org>d  s In article <3C6BEC78.935642E6@mediasec.de>, Jan C. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vorbr=FCggen?= <jvorbrueggen@mediasec.de> writes:o  M > Nonsense. In the case of the orthography reform, people actually complained.N > that the  _wasn't_ completely removed (as is the case in Swiss German), butJ > kept in certain cases. And there are no accented letters in German, onlyJ > umlauts (), and none of them can go away without majorly changing the > language.a  B    What major change?  We were taught  = ae,   = oe, and  = ue;    Goethe = Gthe.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 16:12:07 +0100n( From: Bernd Paysan <bernd.paysan@gmx.de>J Subject: Re: Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was The demise* Message-ID: <30qt4a.5u2.ln@tina.mikron.de>   Bob Koehler wrote:D >    What major change?  We were taught  = ae,   = oe, and  = ue; >    Goethe = Gthe.  F In fact, the " over the a/o/u once indicated an e (just like the  is B a ligature for long and short s). And we Germans managed to write : German texts on Usenet when it was still 7-bit-ASCII only.   -- d Bernd Paysan7 "If you want it done right, you have to do it yourself"- http://www.jwdt.com/~paysan/   ------------------------------    Date: 19 Feb 2002 08:32:38 -0600- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)nY Subject: Re: Younger recruits versus experienced veterans ( was The demise    of      com<3 Message-ID: <81Ew3PEYo$S2@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  Z In article <3cb6c295.482472524@news.btopenworld.com>, greenaum@BOLLOCKSyahoo.co.uk writes: > H > Oh yeah, my Grandmother used to be able to (or still can) read the oldA > German alphabet. It's sort-of perverted Latin alphabet really. o  E    Odd.  One of the things I enjoyed learning was how to read the old'G    alphabet.  Not hard.  Not included in my German courses.  I just gotcB    a "map" from a freind who'd studied it, and practiced a little.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:12:33 +0100d/ From: Nigel Arnot <sysmgr@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>h6 Subject: RE: [OT] Dueterium [from discussion about ...6 Message-ID: <00A09CC7.2C922774.7@maxwell.ph.kcl.ac.uk>   > E > Actually water is slightly more than just H2O, it is chains of suchn > moleculesdL > weakly bound through the EM fields, because the two Hydrogen atoms form an > anglenB > of 108 degrees with the oxygen atom thereby giving an electrical > polarization to:: > the molecule, so what you end up with is  something like >  > >>>>>>>>>- > G > Don't know if the angle changes at all with Deuterium or Tritium, youf
 > wouldn't, > think so since the neutrons have no charge >   K There are slight, subtle differences between the chemistry of hydrogen and @I deuterium. I (vaguely) recall that the cause is kinetic. A deuterium ion AB is twice as heavy as a hydrogen, so it'll be harder to jostle. Or E alternatively, if already moving, it'll pack more of a punch when it e bumps something else.   J There must also be a weak nuclear interaction between the neutron and the H orbital electron in Deuterium. I've never heard of this discussed in the@ context of chemistry, though: probably it's too small to matter.  F You may get selective crystallisation of heavy, or light, ice as waterG freezes, due to kinetics at the critical point. And heavy ice actually s sinks in ordinary water!  I I've never found the reference, but I've heard that a rat was once given oN nothing but heavy water to drink; it sickened and died. Certain enzymes do notK function right if critical hydrogen sites are in fact dueterium. Of course,tL living organisms can cope with Deuterium at the natural abundance of 1/7000.. A small minority of broken enzymes do no harm.   	Yours,w
 		Nigel Arnotw- 		NRA@MAXWELL.PH.KCL.AC.UK                      7 		"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."r   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 10:45:14 +0100 0 From: "Philip Lewis" <FerrariTR512m@hotmail.com>Y Subject: Re: [OT] Dueterium [from discussion about Deuterium-Gallium powered cars   (was i- Message-ID: <a4t6sn$1ke8$1@news.cybercity.dk>   
 Gentlemen,  H All this and much more can be read in the excellent book by Philip Ball,- "H2O A Biography of Water" ISBN 0-75381-092-1/  H In fact everything you ever wanted to know and much more is contained in$ this informative and excellent book.  
 Dr. Dweeb.. "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message3 news:CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIEEKPECAA.tom@kednos.com...( >  >  > > -----Original Message-----0 > > From: Alan Greig [mailto:a.greig@virgin.net]+ > > Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 8:13 AMs > > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com@H > > Subject: Re: [OT] Dueterium [from discussion about Deuterium-Gallium/ > > powered cars (was Re: "Crashless Windows")]s > >t > >p1 > > On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 15:04:59 +0000, Roy Omond ( > > <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> wrote: > >t > > >L > > >dH > > >... and surely it must be at the bottom of the bucket, which should make- > > >harvesting the stuff relatively easy :-)i > >tH > > Well it is the case (I believe) that water at higher latitudes has aG > > higher percentage of heavy water and that at the equator the least.4+ > > Presumably due to the centrifuge effectc >aH > If it were the centrifugal effect it would be more concentrated at the > equator.,2I > since the force is proportional to V squared/R and V is proportional toa theo > cosineJ > of the lattitude, which more than mask the somewhat larger radius at the	 > equatori >rE > Actually water is slightly more than just H2O, it is chains of such  > moleculesnL > weakly bound through the EM fields, because the two Hydrogen atoms form an > angle B > of 108 degrees with the oxygen atom thereby giving an electrical > polarization toi: > the molecule, so what you end up with is  something like >a > >>>>>>>>>u >eG > Don't know if the angle changes at all with Deuterium or Tritium, youd
 > wouldn't, > think so since the neutrons have no charge >n   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:11:48 -0000 * From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>Y Subject: Re: [OT] Dueterium [from discussion about Deuterium-Gallium powered cars   (was r+ Message-ID: <a4tbtc$sc4@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>i  2 "Alan Greig" <a.greig@virgin.net> wrote in message2 news:io927uc35a7k1tdb73uuee7se8mui83oac@4ax.com...  F > Well it is the case (I believe) that water at higher latitudes has aE > higher percentage of heavy water and that at the equator the least.i  H If so, probably because of evaporation. You can (just about) distill it.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:37:43 -0500e- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>vY Subject: Re: [OT] Dueterium [from discussion about Deuterium-Gallium powered cars (was Re , Message-ID: <3C727F57.EE412FCA@videotron.ca>  H The real question is how long before some company starts to sell bottledD "heavy water" claiming all sorts of health benefits. :-) :-) :-) :-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 11:31:09 -0500y From: William_Bochnik@acml.comY Subject: Re: [OT] Dueterium [from discussion about Deuterium-Gallium powered cars (was Reu> Message-ID: <OFABBB4924.842C573D-ON85256B65.005AACE7@acml.com>  = That was the plot of a "Hogan's Hero's" episode in the 1960'so      ^                                                                                               ^                       JF Mezei                                                                ^                       <jfmezei.spamnot@vi                To:  Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com           ^                       deotron.ca>                        cc:                                  ^                                                   Subject: Re: [OT] Dueterium [from           ^                       02/19/2002 11:37 AM         discussion about Deuterium-Gallium powered  ^                       Please respond to           cars (was Re: "Crashless Windows")] (was    ^                       JF Mezei                    Re: "Crashless Windows")] (was Re:          ^                       <jfmezei.spamnot@vi         "Crashless Windows")]                       ^                       deotron.ca>                                                             ^                                                                                               ^                                                                                                     @ The real question is how long before some company starts to sell bottledi@ "heavy water" claiming all sorts of health benefits. :-) :-) :-) :-)t          F ______________________________________________________________________;  The information contained in this transmission may containm@ privileged and confidential information and is intended only forA the use of the person(s) name above.  If you are not the intended = recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for deliverings3 this message to the intended recipient, any review,.@ dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication? is strictly prohibited.  If you are not the intended recipient,rA please contact the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy # all copies of the original message.c   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.098 ************************