1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 28 Jul 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 413       Contents:% controlling telnet / ftp login access 5 Get love with Psychic Seduction - Free Download  5011  Re: Open Files Re: Open Files0 Re: OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kit (Montagar Sold Out) PL/I Hobbyist kit now available 0 Re: Register an Hobbyist layered product license0 Re: Register an Hobbyist layered product license0 Re: Register an Hobbyist layered product license0 Re: Register an Hobbyist layered product license0 Re: Register an Hobbyist layered product license0 Re: Register an Hobbyist layered product license( Re: X10 Home Automation Software for VMS  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2002 01:50:26 -0700" From: ccc_crg@yahoo.com (Chris G.). Subject: controlling telnet / ftp login access= Message-ID: <5437ff2f.0207280050.424a8a73@posting.google.com>   	 Hello all   D This may belong in the (mythical?) VMS Hobbyist FAQ but here goes...  E I have an Alpha VMS 7.3 visible to the internet and plan to have only ! the following services available:   - Telnet and FTP access (TCP/IP (UCX) Services) 
 CSWS (Apache)   B Decnet is not configured (at this stage I can't see any reason for& running Decnet on a standalone system)  E I don't want to be able to Telnet or FTP into the SYSTEM account from E the Internet. I tried setting the /NOLOCAL and /NODIALUP flags on the C SYSTEM account but that does not stop telnet/ftp.  In the end I put  this into the LOGIN.COM :   : $ if f$extract(0,7,f$trnlnm("sys$rem_id")) .eqs. "TELNET_" $ thenB $   if f$extract(0,16,f$getdvi("tt:","tt_accpornam")) .nes. "Host: LOCALHOST "  $   then8 $     write sys$output "                               "8 $     write sys$output "  TELNET ACCESS IS PROHIBITED  "8 $     write sys$output "                               " $     logout	 $   endif  $ endif  $!7 $ if f$extract(0,4,f$trnlnm("sys$rem_id")) .eqs. "FTP_"  $ then- $   write sys$output "FTP ACCESS NOT ALLOWED" 
 $   logout $ endif   D It seems to do the trick.  Telnet & FTP sessions exit immediately.    F If I need to login as SYSTEM from the internet, I first telnet in as a6 non-privileged user then TELNET 0 and login as SYSTEM.  B I am curious to know if there is a better (ie more elegant or more secure) way to do this?    Regards,0 Chris G.  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SH DEV/FI displays which *PROCESSES* are accessing files ! >>>> on a device for that sample.  >>> I >>>Yup and only provides the info for the node the command is issued on.  & >>>(or has that changed since 6.2 :-)) >>  P >> Appears not to have changed judging by what I see on my clustered VAX at 7.3  >> and Alpha at 7.2. >>   >> Regards, Paddy  >>   > L > Correct. You need to issue SH DEV/FI on every node in a cluster to get the > complete information.   M As mentioned in an earlier post, $ SHOW DEVICE/FILES does not give sufficient L information.  In particular, it does not display volumes which are mapped byO UCX / CPQ TCPIP Services and possibly other file/disk serving protocols such as K Advanced Server. And if any processes have assigned channels to a volume in H order to perform direct ACP/XQP calls to access files, these may preventF dismounting the volume and may not be visible via $ SHOW DEVICE/FILES.  F For a more complete listing you need to use SDA, i.e., ANALYZE/SYSTEM.) Something like the following should work:     $ W:=WRITE SYS$OUTPUTI  $ PIPE W "SHOW PROC ALL/CHAN"|ANAL/SYS|SEAR SYS$INPUT "CESS IDENT",ddcn:   L Installed images can make a disk difficult to dismount as well, but may showN up in a $ SHOW DEVICE/FILES listing.  I believe that images installed with theJ /RESIDENT qualifier cannot be fully removed - or at least that is what ourK Ingres support folks told us when we complained that we were having trouble K dismounting disk volumes from which their images were installed.  And don't H forget global sections.  If they have backing store (or are installed asJ images), they have to be removed as well before dismounting the associated volumes.   ------------------------------   Date: 28 Jul 2002 07:03:23 GMT- From: djweath@attglobal.net (Dave Weatherall)  Subject: Re: Open Files 5 Message-ID: <DTiotGxQ0bj6-pn2-dO3pdzQRIHvc@localhost>   6 On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:33:38 UTC, "David J. Dachtera"  <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote:   > Dave Weatherall wrote: > > 9 > > On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 02:48:42 UTC, "David J. Dachtera" " > > <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote: > >    Shawn's snipped...   > > > > Hi!  > > > > , > > > > Try SHOW DEVICE / FILES <devicename> > > > > T > > > > It lists all open files on that specific device and which app accesses them! > > > N > > > Careful, there! SH DEV/FI displays which *PROCESSES* are accessing files" > > > on a device for that sample. > > I > > Yup and only provides the info for the node the command is issued on. ' > > (or has that changed since 6.2 :-))  > % > No, you're quite right - better to:  >  > $ MCR SYSMAN
 > SET ENV/CLU  > DO SHO DEV/FI ddcu:  > EXIT  F That's a good idea. I don't run SYSMAN very often. I've got the privs * to to do it but avoid using them if I can.   --   Cheers - Dave.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 09:18:05 +0100 E From: Jamie Stallwood <this.no.work.try.something.else@project76.net> 9 Subject: Re: OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kit (Montagar Sold Out) 8 Message-ID: <i3a7ku4kungl9j3mgj552ljhhasa16r90t@4ax.com>  4 On Sat, 27 Jul 2002 16:49:32 -0500, "Craig A. Berry"' <craigberry@nospam.telocity.com> wrote:   G >"Currently, the OpenVMS VAX Hobbyist Kit is sold out. We are going to  F >take the opportunity to remaster the VAX Hobbyist Kit, and expect it I >will be available sometime in July. Rest assured, we will be offering a   >VAX kit again!" >   D I have to say that I never saw that paragraph, only the red letters!  F As we know expectation != delivery, but I'll try to hang on a whiel :)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 09:35:22 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> ( Subject: PL/I Hobbyist kit now available9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIIEHIFHAA.tom@kednos.com>   : We have made fully functional versions of the compiler for< bot VAX and Alpha which repsect the OPENVMS-HOBBYIST license; paks.  You may downlad the kits from freja.kednos.com using ! anonymous ftp or ftp web browser.   = Would appreciate confirmation that they install properly with 
 such paks.   Tom  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).@ Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002   ------------------------------   Date: 28 Jul 02 11:24:21 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 9 Subject: Re: Register an Hobbyist layered product license ) Message-ID: <ux0nBEd3v8Jf@elias.decus.ch>   W In article <3D430A94.32F41AF3@Free.fr>, Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> writes: P > The montagar page on layered products states that more than a hundred productsQ > are available for the hobbyist, but I did not find any way to register anything - > else than VMS, that I did register already.  > 8 > Could someone spread some light on this issue, please? > N There is a drop down menu which defaults to the VMS license. Click on that and$ you can select the layered licenses.   __
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------   Date: 27 Jul 2002 22:05:39 GMT7 From: sy18889@rabmbit.famrp.cosm (Bradford J. Hamilton) 9 Subject: Re: Register an Hobbyist layered product license ! Message-ID: <h0sJrNiR15u9@rabbit>   	 Hi Alder,   N ISTR that I had to load LSE from one of the ConDist CD's, rather than from theN Hobbyist CD.  The CD itself can only hold a finite number of LP's, besides theC OS itself.  Montagar had to make some tough decisions about what to E include/exclude.  I think that they assumed that most people who were E hobbyists, would have access to the ConDist CD's, presumably at work.   M Others will speak to the "legal" ramifications of obtaining the ConDist CD's, N if you have no access to them from work.  I believe the technical term for theL action that you need to take is, "...beg, borrow, or steal..." a copy of the
 ConDist CD's.    :-)   M Good luck!  You have shown remarkable stick-to-it-iveness so far; keep going!   W In article <3D434B10.3050503@spammotel.com>, Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com> writes:  > Michael Rice wrote:  >> Didier Morandi wrote: >>  : >>> Could someone spread some light on this issue, please? >>> K >> You need to go back to the Montagar site and use the "License Register"  I >> option a second time.  On the "Hobbyist License Registration" screen,  9 >> select "Layered Products" in the "License Type" field.  >>   > H > I have a related question (I think).  Where in the Hobbyist CD is the K > Language Sensitive Editor (LSE)?  The Layered Products License PAKs from  I > Montagar include one for LSE, but it's not a stand-alone package which  J > you can install from CD, nor is it showing up on the system disk when I   > run "$ DIR [000000...]*LSE* ". >  > Signed perplexed,  >  > Alder  >  >  --   Bradford J. Hamilton& braMdhamAilPtoSn@aMtAtPbi.cSom		(home)& sMy1A88P89S@rabMbit.fAmPr.coSm		(work)  ; "All opinions that I express are my own, not my employer's"  "Lose the MAPS"    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:21:42 +0000 (UTC)  From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk9 Subject: Re: Register an Hobbyist layered product license + Message-ID: <ai0gjm$hnd$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>   W In article <3D438840.5000809@tsoft-inc.com>, David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes: 
 >Alder wrote:  >  >> Michael Rice wrote: >>   >>> Didier Morandi wrote:  >>>  > Q >The CD you're refering to is, well, a single CD.  Only so many products can fit  K >on a single CD.  It has some of the more often used products, but not all  Q >layered products.  It takes something like 10 or 12 or some such number to hold  . >all the layered products distributed for VMS. > Q >You get the PAKs for most layered products.  If there is a royalty involved, or  I >some other reason, you won't get a free PAK.  It doesn't make sense for  Q >DEC/Compaq/HP to pay a royalty on a product so that they can provide you a free  Q >PAK.  Then you can obtain the media for whatever products you want, in whatever  O >manner you can.  At one end is purchasing a copy of the ConDist (consolidated  Q >distribution), a dozen or more CDs with all the layered products.  At the other  B >end is coming across a copy of the ConDist for little or no cost. > R >One thing VMS hobbyists should do is get to know other hobbyist that are nearby. R >  With enough people, someone will have some media that they may lend to you, or  >make a copy for you.  >  >Opinion mode on:  > R >Some people have worried about loaning, selling, or copying media.  The CDs from P >Montagar had a cost to cover production and shipping.  There wasn't any profit N >involved.  The purpose of the hobbyist program is to get the software in the N >hands of people so that they can learn how to use it, and possibly influence R >commercial use of the software.  From this perspective, I'd think that HP has no O >problem with media being loaned or copied.  It's the PAKs that cost money and  P >represent the license, so why would they give these away for free, and not the  >media.  > & >Just my opinion, not speaking for HP. >  >Dave  >   J Of course as many people here have argued the solution to this would be toC put the reset of the products on the web for hobbyists to download.   
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 10:28:04 +0000 (UTC)  From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk9 Subject: Re: Register an Hobbyist layered product license + Message-ID: <ai0gvk$hnd$2@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>   U In article <ux0nBEd3v8Jf@elias.decus.ch>, p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) writes: X >In article <3D430A94.32F41AF3@Free.fr>, Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> writes:Q >> The montagar page on layered products states that more than a hundred products R >> are available for the hobbyist, but I did not find any way to register anything. >> else than VMS, that I did register already. >>  9 >> Could someone spread some light on this issue, please?  >>  O >There is a drop down menu which defaults to the VMS license. Click on that and % >you can select the layered licenses.  >   O Is there any real reason for this ? It seems to be something that catches a lot L of people out. Are there really any hobbyists who don't want both the OS and the layered products ?  
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University     ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2002 14:28:25 -0000= From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> 9 Subject: Re: Register an Hobbyist layered product license 6 Message-ID: <20020728142825.23136.qmail@nym.alias.net>  4 On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk wrote:G >In article <ux0nBEd3v8Jf@elias.decus.ch>, p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul  >Sture) writes: 8 >>In article <3D430A94.32F41AF3@Free.fr>, Didier Morandi" >><Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> writes:I >>> The montagar page on layered products states that more than a hundred  >>> productsJ >>> are available for the hobbyist, but I did not find any way to register >>> anything/ >>> else than VMS, that I did register already.  >>> : >>> Could someone spread some light on this issue, please? >>> P >>There is a drop down menu which defaults to the VMS license. Click on that and& >>you can select the layered licenses. >> > P >Is there any real reason for this ? It seems to be something that catches a lotM >of people out. Are there really any hobbyists who don't want both the OS and  >the layered products ?   J I think it is because you need one OS license per system you have, and one9 layered products license set to use on all your machines.      Doc. --  6 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.K ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.                             https://vmsbox.cjb.net    ------------------------------    Date: 28 Jul 2002 14:28:25 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>9 Subject: Re: Register an Hobbyist layered product licensea5 Message-ID: <20020728142825.5934.qmail@nym.alias.net>   > On Sun, 28 Jul 2002, Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com> wrote:   <snip>  G >I have a related question (I think).  Where in the Hobbyist CD is the yJ >Language Sensitive Editor (LSE)?  The Layered Products License PAKs from H >Montagar include one for LSE, but it's not a stand-alone package which I >you can install from CD, nor is it showing up on the system disk when I   >run "$ DIR [000000...]*LSE* ".u  K LSE isn't on the Hobbyist CD, I guess there simply wasn't room and Montagar- prioritised other packages.-  J Send me an email and I'll arrange to get a copy of it to you, it's part ofH DECSET and usually comes on the ConDist which someone was good enough to give me a copy of.     Doc. -- .6 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.K ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.                             https://vmsbox.cjb.net    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 14:59:00 GMT - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network>s1 Subject: Re: X10 Home Automation Software for VMSt* Message-ID: <3D44023A.9080904@qsl.network>   Barry Skidmore wrote:sL > Could someone help me locate X10 Home Automation Software for VMS.  I haveK > looked at the indices for the VMS freeware CD's and done a Google search,Y  > but have come up empty handed.  " Go to http://www.encompasserve.org  % Click on the link search conferences.0   Enter into the search box:   X10 VMS"  + 72 items found, including this wrapped URL."  & http://eisner.encompasserve.org/htbin/R dnqindexform?TEXT=R64102086-64103606-dra4%3A%5Bdecuserve_extracts%5Dvms.full%3B447   -John" wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Onlyt   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.413 ************************