1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 21 Mar 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 157       Contents: 7.3a and 7.4 Release dates Re: 7.3a and 7.4 Release dates Re: Alphaserver 1000a Problem  Re: Alphaserver 1000a Problem  Re: BIND on VMS and new TLDs( CNNfn: Compaq Shareholders Clear HP Deal, Re: CNNfn: Compaq Shareholders Clear HP Deal, Re: CNNfn: Compaq Shareholders Clear HP Deal, Re: CNNfn: Compaq Shareholders Clear HP Deal4 Re: configuring nic for decnet and lock traffic only( Re: FORTRAN (was: Re: R.I.P. OpenVMS...)( Re: FORTRAN (was: Re: R.I.P. OpenVMS...)( Re: FORTRAN (was: Re: R.I.P. OpenVMS...) FTP Failure  Re: FTP Failure  Re: FTP Failure  Re: FTP Failure 
 Hidden files?  Re: Hidden files?  Re: Hidden files? < Re: How to install DSP3107L disk in a Storageworks canister?< Re: How to install DSP3107L disk in a Storageworks canister?< Re: How to install DSP3107L disk in a Storageworks canister?G Re: HP's viewpoint on Linux, was: Re: Sun eating major helping of Linux G Re: HP's viewpoint on Linux, was: Re: Sun eating major helping of Linux G Re: HP's viewpoint on Linux, was: Re: Sun eating major helping of Linux F Re: HP's viewpoint on Linux, was: Re: Sun eating major helping ofLinux" Re: HPCL minute of the day: HP/EOD1 IF-THEN-ELSE oddity: Extra ELSE's cause no error! 5 Re: IF-THEN-ELSE oddity: Extra ELSE's cause no error! 5 Re: IF-THEN-ELSE oddity: Extra ELSE's cause no error!  Re: Incremental BACKUP question  Re: Itanium troubles Re: Itanium troubles Re: lpd printing + telnetqueue MicroVax Crash Re: MicroVax Crash8 Re: MONI SYS shows 80% CPU usage and 8 jobs in COM state& Once a fool, always a fool I guess ...* Re: Once a fool, always a fool I guess ...$ Re: OpenVMS 7.2-1 and UCX 4.2 ECO 05$ Re: OpenVMS 7.2-1 and UCX 4.2 ECO 05E PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM! Now! (was Re: Suggested enhancement. for DECterm.) I Re: PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM! Now! (was Re: Suggested enhancement. for DECterm.) I Re: PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM! Now! (was Re: Suggested enhancement. for DECterm.) I Re: PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM! Now! (was Re: Suggested enhancement. for DECterm.) I Re: PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM! Now! (was Re: Suggested enhancement. for DECterm.)  Re: Right down the middle ' Strange status returned by sys$create() + Re: Strange status returned by sys$create() + Re: Strange status returned by sys$create() + Re: Strange status returned by sys$create() + Re: Strange status returned by sys$create()  Re: Talk about downtime....  Re: telnetqueue  Re: Too close to call says BBC+ Unable to receive Internet mail on VMS node / Re: Unable to receive Internet mail on VMS node & Re: Why does ERRFMT give me RSZ error?= Windoze and linux bugs abound ... "unhackable" VMS untouched! * Re: Witch streamer supported vax-4000-90 ?- Re: [Q]: Setting SCSI Cluster host SCIS ID's? - Re: [Q]: Setting SCSI Cluster host SCIS ID's? - Re: [Q]: Setting SCSI Cluster host SCIS ID's?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:41:48 GMT 9 From: "Technophile" <technophile@river(nospam)side.bc.ca> # Subject: 7.3a and 7.4 Release dates = Message-ID: <Me8m8.330566$A44.18185184@news2.calgary.shaw.ca>   A Do you guys have any ideas on when 7.3a and 7.4 will be released?    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:00:58 +0100  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>' Subject: Re: 7.3a and 7.4 Release dates & Message-ID: <3C9914AA.5090300@home.nl>  G We can expect the 7.3-1 release later this year. As I heard today that  G will also be the version used for the Itanium release. There will be a  I special version for the Marvel afaik, but I haven't heard anything about  8 7.4 yet. I suppose porting VMS does take some manpower ?   Technophile wrote:  B >Do you guys have any ideas on when 7.3a and 7.4 will be released? >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:21:35 +0100 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@free.fr> & Subject: Re: Alphaserver 1000a Problem' Message-ID: <3C98FD5E.A7F39EB4@free.fr>   . http://www.compaq.com/info/GEA10C/GEA10CPF.PDF  : Looks like your Alphaserver does not support ClosedVMS :-(   D.   Patrick Coulier wrote: >  > Hello there, > N > When trying to UPGRADE an old inherited Alphaserver 1000A 5/400 from NT to aJ > recent version of VMS, I get following message on the small LCD-display: >  > srom V1.0 cc >   > And the systems seems to hang. > ? > Any explanations or ideas about what is going on/wrong here ? . > Any roadmaps available to do this operation. >  > Thanks in advance, >  > Patrick Coulier % > System Engineer Delight I.S Belgium    --  H   ----------------------------------------------------------------------H MORANDI Consultants  -  WEB: http://Didier.Morandi.Free.fr/index_us.htmlH Pflanzschulstrasse 53, 8004 Zurich, Switzerland. GSM: +41 (0)79 705 4670H 19, chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France.  GSM: +33 (0)6 7983 6418  H Disaster Recovery Plans, Computer Security Audits, DEC OpenVMS ExpertiseH On parle franais Man spricht Deutsch se habla Castellano English spoken   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:21:57 +0100  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>& Subject: Re: Alphaserver 1000a Problem& Message-ID: <3C991995.4070503@home.nl>  F Maybe you need to reinstall the firmware. Get the latest version from B the Compaq site, and read the release notes carefully. There is a G failsave routine that will load the firmware from floppy is everything   else fails.    Patrick Coulier wrote:  
 >Hello there,  > M >When trying to UPGRADE an old inherited Alphaserver 1000A 5/400 from NT to a I >recent version of VMS, I get following message on the small LCD-display:  > 
 >srom V1.0 cc  >  >And the systems seems to hang.  > > >Any explanations or ideas about what is going on/wrong here ?- >Any roadmaps available to do this operation.  >  >Thanks in advance,  >  >Patrick Coulier$ >System Engineer Delight I.S Belgium >  >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 04:21:46 GMT - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> % Subject: Re: BIND on VMS and new TLDs * Message-ID: <3C9961B9.8030801@qsl.network>   JF Mezei wrote: P > With new TLDs such as .info, .biz, .aero coming to the internet, are there anyM > changes that should be made to the BIND configuration files on a VMS system G > that has its own BIND server, or does it get that type of information 9 > automatically from the DNS server operated by the ISP ?   G It should get the information from the DNS(s) upstream, unless you are  E the authorative server for one of the new TLDs.  Then you need to be  4 registered to feed the information back for lookups.  F For a home system, nothing need be done, unless you were using one of   them as an internal domain name.   -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network   ------------------------------   Date: 20 Mar 2002 21:54:35 GMT) From: leslie@clio.rice.edu (Jerry Leslie) 1 Subject: CNNfn: Compaq Shareholders Clear HP Deal ' Message-ID: <a7b0er$m3g$1@joe.rice.edu> * Keywords: compaq,shareholders,agree,merger  4    Compaq shareholders clear HP deal - Mar. 20, 2002>    http://money.cnn.com/2002/03/20/news/deals/compaq/index.htm  $    Compaq shareholders clear HP dealE    Company says a majority of shareholders have voted in favor of the $    roughly $21 billion buyout offer.    March 20, 2002: 3:58 PM EST     G   "NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Compaq shareholders have approved HP's buyout <    offer by a margin of 9 to 1, the company said Wednesday.      H    It generally was expected that the deal would breeze through the voteI    by Compaq shareholders because of the premium HP has agreed to pay for A    the company. At last count, the deal was valued at roughly $21 B    billion, compared with Compaq's recent market capitalization of    roughly $18.3 billion.      C    On the HP side, the deal was the subject of a bitter proxy fight I    spearheaded by dissident HP board member Walter Hewlett. Acknowledging @    that it was by a narrow margin, HP claimed victory on TuesdayB    following the voting deadline for its shareholders. But HewlettD    refused to concede and an official tally will not be returned for    weeks. "     4 --Jerry Leslie     (my opinions are strictly my own)   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:41:40 GMT * From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>5 Subject: Re: CNNfn: Compaq Shareholders Clear HP Deal C Message-ID: <Ee8m8.325720$pN4.21260278@bin8.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>   6 "Jerry Leslie" <leslie@clio.rice.edu> wrote in message! news:a7b0er$m3g$1@joe.rice.edu... 6 >    Compaq shareholders clear HP deal - Mar. 20, 2002@ >    http://money.cnn.com/2002/03/20/news/deals/compaq/index.htm > & >    Compaq shareholders clear HP dealG >    Company says a majority of shareholders have voted in favor of the & >    roughly $21 billion buyout offer.  >    March 20, 2002: 3:58 PM EST > I >   "NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Compaq shareholders have approved HP's buyout = >    offer by a margin of 9 to 1, the company said Wednesday.   L http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?siteid=mktw&dist=mktgpkgsnap&guid=2 %7B1BA7EA35%2DC48C%2D4DFF%2D8AFF%2DB526ABECBDC0%7D  L According to the above, only about 60% of shareholders cast votes.  If true,I and the company needed 50% 'yea' votes of the total shares held (not just E voted) to pass the merger, then it's not entirely clear that the deal J 'breezed through' (e.g., anything under a 5 to 1 margin wouldn't have been sufficient to pass it).   I It also states, "Capellas called the merger the highlight of his career." A How true:  avoiding being fired for incompetence and locking in a 7 substantial bonus in the bargain just has to feel good.    > J >    It generally was expected that the deal would breeze through the voteK >    by Compaq shareholders because of the premium HP has agreed to pay for C >    the company. At last count, the deal was valued at roughly $21 D >    billion, compared with Compaq's recent market capitalization of >    roughly $18.3 billion.   J That reasoning would seem to apply to those Compaq shareholders anxious toK unload ASAP at the highest price possible (though FAIK that could be 90% of J them - they certainly have reason), or to those who believe that *any* newK leadership, regardless of how difficult the merger turns out to be, will be L an improvement with the potential to recover some substantial portion of theI inherent value of the company that's been lost under the current honchos. F The only reasons Q shareholders (at least those without significant HPD holdings as well) would have rejected the merger would have been  a)G confidence in the current leadership (yeah, right) or  b) the hope that J rejection would result in replacement of the current leadership (but underA the existing BoD there's little reason to believe that this would  necessarily improve things).  K Since I'm no market guru, does anyone out there who is (i.e., who has a lot L more experience, not just is readier to make a wild guess) know what to look for now?  I It seems clear that if both stocks remain in the doldrums relative to the I rest of the market (they certainly fell more today than either the Dow or K the NASD), that indicates low expectations for the viability of the merger. L But are there any particular conclusions to be drawn if, e.g., Compaq sharesH continue to trade below what the merger offer values them at?  I supposeJ that the more Compaq looks like an absolute dog (e.g., when the Q1 numbersI come out), the more there's the possibility that HP's BoD will revolt and J scotch the deal, even at the cost of $675 million, but given how much likeL complete idiots that would make HP's board look (compared with hanging toughL and hoping for a miracle, fiduciary duties be damned) that seems, to say the least, unlikely.   - bill   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:49:22 GMT * From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>5 Subject: Re: CNNfn: Compaq Shareholders Clear HP Deal ? Message-ID: <Sl8m8.7090$2q2.565806@bin4.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>   E Apologies to c.u.t readers for seeing this message twice:  c.o.v. did J something strange with it, and if I simply re-post it there any discussion
 will fork:    6 "Jerry Leslie" <leslie@clio.rice.edu> wrote in message! news:a7b0er$m3g$1@joe.rice.edu... 6 >    Compaq shareholders clear HP deal - Mar. 20, 2002@ >    http://money.cnn.com/2002/03/20/news/deals/compaq/index.htm > & >    Compaq shareholders clear HP dealG >    Company says a majority of shareholders have voted in favor of the & >    roughly $21 billion buyout offer.  >    March 20, 2002: 3:58 PM EST > I >   "NEW YORK (CNN/Money) - Compaq shareholders have approved HP's buyout = >    offer by a margin of 9 to 1, the company said Wednesday.   L http://cbs.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?siteid=mktw&dist=mktgpkgsnap&guid=2 %7B1BA7EA35%2DC48C%2D4DFF%2D8AFF%2DB526ABECBDC0%7D  L According to the above, only about 60% of shareholders cast votes.  If true,I and the company needed 50% 'yea' votes of the total shares held (not just E voted) to pass the merger, then it's not entirely clear that the deal J 'breezed through' (e.g., anything under a 5 to 1 margin wouldn't have been sufficient to pass it).   I It also states, "Capellas called the merger the highlight of his career." A How true:  avoiding being fired for incompetence and locking in a 7 substantial bonus in the bargain just has to feel good.    > J >    It generally was expected that the deal would breeze through the voteK >    by Compaq shareholders because of the premium HP has agreed to pay for C >    the company. At last count, the deal was valued at roughly $21 D >    billion, compared with Compaq's recent market capitalization of >    roughly $18.3 billion.   J That reasoning would seem to apply to those Compaq shareholders anxious toK unload ASAP at the highest price possible (though FAIK that could be 90% of J them - they certainly have reason), or to those who believe that *any* newK leadership, regardless of how difficult the merger turns out to be, will be L an improvement with the potential to recover some substantial portion of theI inherent value of the company that's been lost under the current honchos. F The only reasons Q shareholders (at least those without significant HPD holdings as well) would have rejected the merger would have been  a)G confidence in the current leadership (yeah, right) or  b) the hope that J rejection would result in replacement of the current leadership (but underA the existing BoD there's little reason to believe that this would  necessarily improve things).  K Since I'm no market guru, does anyone out there who is (i.e., who has a lot L more experience, not just is readier to make a wild guess) know what to look for now?  I It seems clear that if both stocks remain in the doldrums relative to the I rest of the market (they certainly fell more today than either the Dow or K the NASD), that indicates low expectations for the viability of the merger. L But are there any particular conclusions to be drawn if, e.g., Compaq sharesH continue to trade below what the merger offer values them at?  I supposeJ that the more Compaq looks like an absolute dog (e.g., when the Q1 numbersI come out), the more there's the possibility that HP's BoD will revolt and J scotch the deal, even at the cost of $675 million, but given how much likeL complete idiots that would make HP's board look (compared with hanging toughL and hoping for a miracle, fiduciary duties be damned) that seems, to say the least, unlikely.   - bill   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 02:53:22 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> 5 Subject: Re: CNNfn: Compaq Shareholders Clear HP Deal E Message-ID: <CWbm8.5725$_L.2531@news02.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>   5 "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net> wrote in message = news:Ee8m8.325720$pN4.21260278@bin8.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com...  >  > H > According to the above, only about 60% of shareholders cast votes.  If true, K > and the company needed 50% 'yea' votes of the total shares held (not just G > voted) to pass the merger, then it's not entirely clear that the deal L > 'breezed through' (e.g., anything under a 5 to 1 margin wouldn't have been > sufficient to pass it).  > K > It also states, "Capellas called the merger the highlight of his career." C > How true:  avoiding being fired for incompetence and locking in a29 > substantial bonus in the bargain just has to feel good.c >.  K I wonder who gets more serverance pay - a CEO of a company that he ran into8J the ground, or the 2nd in command of a merged company that will founder on the shoals?u      I > Since I'm no market guru, does anyone out there who is (i.e., who has ac lotHI > more experience, not just is readier to make a wild guess) know what top look
 > for now? >  Shareholder lawsuits, mebbe???     > I supposesL > that the more Compaq looks like an absolute dog (e.g., when the Q1 numbersK > come out), the more there's the possibility that HP's BoD will revolt andNL > scotch the deal, even at the cost of $675 million, but given how much likeH > complete idiots that would make HP's board look (compared with hanging toughrJ > and hoping for a miracle, fiduciary duties be damned) that seems, to say theA > least, unlikely.  H Fiduciary duty can assume many forms.....perhaps even turning back afterL peering into the abyss. Perhaps then, paying the $675 million will seem like
 a sound idea.r    G Mergers like these never come in on budget with respect to amalgamationyF costs. Having been part of management through 3 mergers (always on theL 'winning'side), I can say that merger costs almost always come in at 75-100%H more than you expect at the outset. Carly figures up to $1.4 billion forL this. Let's round it to $3 billion when the dust settles. What will they cutD in the way of products and staff to cover that? Maybe just their own throats.  J I think that if Carly & Curly are so gung-ho about the merger, they shouldK accept a pay cut to $1 per year and take stock options in lieu of pay, withoE a strike price equal to that of HP stock on the day the merger become  official (if it does at all).p   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2002 18:49:33 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) = Subject: Re: configuring nic for decnet and lock traffic onlyt= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0203201849.4e686596@posting.google.com>t   rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) wrote in message news:<rdeininger-1903022108010001@1cust138.tnt1.nashua.nh.da.uu.net>...tI > Before 7.3, there was some less polished tool (whose name escapes me ata4 > the moment) to turn off cluster traffic on a path.  F You're thinking of SYS$EXAMPLES:LAVC$STOP_BUS.MAR.  You can compile itD with @SYS$EXAMPLES:LAVC$BUILD.COM.  Documented in an appendix of the  OpenVMS Cluster Software manual.. ----------------------------------------------. Keith Parris | parris at encompasserve dot org   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2002 13:35:15 -0600- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)r1 Subject: Re: FORTRAN (was: Re: R.I.P. OpenVMS...)o3 Message-ID: <kgd21TDahgv4@eisner.encompasserve.org>t  j In article <3C976E6E.D23670B0@NOSPAM.byron.ext.telia.se>, ">>> ^P" <plj@NOSPAM.byron.ext.telia.se> writes: >  > O > It is possible sometimes to preprocess using "cc/preproc/comment=as_is", I'ver > been playing with G > MM5-sources to make them work on VMS, and I almost to it running now.r >   F    The C folk did some work to make the DEC C preprocessor friendly toB    other languages.  Originally it wouldn't preserve column or tab    format Fortran.    4    It works well enough, we use it regularly on Ada.   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2002 13:39:19 -0600- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)a1 Subject: Re: FORTRAN (was: Re: R.I.P. OpenVMS...)i3 Message-ID: <EP+HvW5hkLOR@eisner.encompasserve.org>s   In article <3C977BBA.51F3C755@spam-be-gone.intel.com.net>, "Kenneth H. Fairfield" <Kenneth.H.Fairfield@spam-be-gone.intel.com.net> writes:  E >>    Fortran 90 introduced the MODULE/USE model.  I think it has the8G >>    advantage that you might not need OS specific file names.  It haseK >>    the disadvantage that the code no longer resembles that of the motherd >>    language.o > D > Since F77 is a proper subset of F90, what in the world do you mean > by that last sentence? >   H    If you choose to use MODULE/USE you start to get code that looks very>    different from Fortran, even though it's called Fortran 90.  G    When the Fortran 8x standard was first introduced, it was obviusly a D    good langauge, but it wasn't Fortran.  By the time Fortran 90 wasG    adopted some of the worst changes (esp. deprecation of old features)YE    had been backed out.  MODULE/USE isn't just a new way of achievingo/    old capabilities, it's a different approach.e   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2002 13:41:14 -0600- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)A1 Subject: Re: FORTRAN (was: Re: R.I.P. OpenVMS...)y3 Message-ID: <FXWWnl5mX6Vg@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ` In article <a7aauc$1hsg$1@info.cs.uofs.edu>, bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes: > K > Not sure it was ever part of the language standard, either.  According toeB > the Prime Programmer's Companion for Fortran77 they use $INSERT.  F    Yeah, and Micorsoft Fortran used to only provide $INCLUDE, and onlyC    as the first line of the file.  But even they came around to theu"    "VAX Fortran" compatable crowd.   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2002 12:03:04 -0800! From: forumjob@hotmail.com (Enya)  Subject: FTP Failure= Message-ID: <debb60d3.0203201203.25a662e9@posting.google.com>m  3 I have this cmd file - (rasphone -d ConnectionName   			ftp -s:script1.txt),   $ which executes the following script:   open ftp.....com username password
 cd 'ftbest01'u hash& get pbc.ff01.p0bcdbef(+0) somefile.dat quit    D Sometimes it fails to get the file - it doesn't connect to the port.F Sometimes it connects to the port, but gives me an error - "550 Volume< containing FTBEST01.PBC.FF01.P0BCDBEF(+0) is not mounted and NoAutoMount specified."bF Is there any way from my side to avoid these errors? And what could be6 the cause of it? Maybe increase Time Out or something?   Thanks!!   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:17:00 +0100i- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@free.fr>c Subject: Re: FTP Failure' Message-ID: <3C98FC4C.16FEF1F6@free.fr>r  4 could you post the genuine DCL command file, please?   D.   Enya wrote:n > 4 > I have this cmd file - (rasphone -d ConnectionName. >                         ftp -s:script1.txt), > & > which executes the following script: >  > open ftp.....com
 > username
 > password > cd 'ftbest01'  > hash( > get pbc.ff01.p0bcdbef(+0) somefile.dat > quit > F > Sometimes it fails to get the file - it doesn't connect to the port.H > Sometimes it connects to the port, but gives me an error - "550 Volume> > containing FTBEST01.PBC.FF01.P0BCDBEF(+0) is not mounted and > NoAutoMount specified."iH > Is there any way from my side to avoid these errors? And what could be8 > the cause of it? Maybe increase Time Out or something? > 
 > Thanks!!   -- eH   ----------------------------------------------------------------------H MORANDI Consultants  -  WEB: http://Didier.Morandi.Free.fr/index_us.htmlH Pflanzschulstrasse 53, 8004 Zurich, Switzerland. GSM: +41 (0)79 705 4670H 19, chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France.  GSM: +33 (0)6 7983 6418  H Disaster Recovery Plans, Computer Security Audits, DEC OpenVMS ExpertiseH On parle franais Man spricht Deutsch se habla Castellano English spoken   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 13:19:22 -0800"% From: Dean Woodward <deanw@rdrop.com>  Subject: Re: FTP Failure) Message-ID: <3C98FCDA.3648B494@rdrop.com>e   Didier Morandi wrote:o > 6 > could you post the genuine DCL command file, please?  9 Likely not.  RASPHONE is an NT/Win2k command.  The postere= is somewhat confused as to where they've posted.  Considering 9 the source filespec, I'm not convinced that a VMS file isd involved at all.  
 > Enya wrote:r > >l6 > > I have this cmd file - (rasphone -d ConnectionName0 > >                         ftp -s:script1.txt), > >g( > > which executes the following script: > >  > > open ftp.....com > > username > > password > > cd 'ftbest01'l > > hash* > > get pbc.ff01.p0bcdbef(+0) somefile.dat > > quit > >0H > > Sometimes it fails to get the file - it doesn't connect to the port.J > > Sometimes it connects to the port, but gives me an error - "550 Volume@ > > containing FTBEST01.PBC.FF01.P0BCDBEF(+0) is not mounted and > > NoAutoMount specified." J > > Is there any way from my side to avoid these errors? And what could be: > > the cause of it? Maybe increase Time Out or something? > >o > > Thanks!! >  > --J >   ----------------------------------------------------------------------J > MORANDI Consultants  -  WEB: http://Didier.Morandi.Free.fr/index_us.htmlJ > Pflanzschulstrasse 53, 8004 Zurich, Switzerland. GSM: +41 (0)79 705 4670J > 19, chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France.  GSM: +33 (0)6 7983 6418 > J > Disaster Recovery Plans, Computer Security Audits, DEC OpenVMS ExpertiseJ > On parle franais Man spricht Deutsch se habla Castellano English spoken     -- u: Dean Woodward   | Portland, OR- worst motorcycling weather0 deanw@rdrop.com | in the continental US, there. 4                 |  - Someone on rec.moto, circa 1994D ----------------+---------------------------------------------------= '66 Duc 250 - '85 Yam FJ1100 - '00 Kaw KLR650 - '01 Apr FalcoP   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 01:56:21 +0100oB From: Michiel Erens <I.dont.want.spam@this.mailaddress.is.invalid> Subject: Re: FTP Failure6 Message-ID: <3C992FB5.24D@this.mailaddress.is.invalid>   Dean Woodward wrote: >  > Didier Morandi wrote:  > >V8 > > could you post the genuine DCL command file, please? > ; > Likely not.  RASPHONE is an NT/Win2k command.  The poster.? > is somewhat confused as to where they've posted.  Considering ; > the source filespec, I'm not convinced that a VMS file is$ > involved at all.  C The destination with the (+0) in the name looks like an IBM MVS GDGN (generation data group). n   --   ME Posted by news://news.nb.nuR   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:33:17 -0600R% From: "Dave Rich" <drich@nucorar.com>t Subject: Hidden files?5 Message-ID: <a7av4g$jq57l$1@ID-136223.news.dfncis.de>o  C Can't seem to locate the standard include files on 6.2-1H3 OpenVMS.s. But, no problem finding them on 7.2 OpenVMS...   What gives?t  G from the top of the system disk... dir [...]stdio.h reveals no matches.c    ( Where did dec hide the include files at?  - I can find some, but not the 'standard' ones.t  : Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I have to ask. ;-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:15:59 -0500e1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>i Subject: Re: Hidden files?2 Message-ID: <3C990A1F.18963673@firstdbasource.com>  7 they are in the text libraries (.TLB) in SYS$LIBRARY:      help library listS     In C if you use:   #include <stdio.h>   it knows where to find it.   -- - Regards,  7 Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163 7 First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.com  Sr. Consultant   Dave Rich wrote: > E > Can't seem to locate the standard include files on 6.2-1H3 OpenVMS.80 > But, no problem finding them on 7.2 OpenVMS... > 
 > What gives?3 > I > from the top of the system disk... dir [...]stdio.h reveals no matches.  > * > Where did dec hide the include files at? > / > I can find some, but not the 'standard' ones.e > < > Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I have to ask. ;-)   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 04:11:16 GMTu- From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network>  Subject: Re: Hidden files?* Message-ID: <3C995F3E.4050407@qsl.network>   Dave Rich wrote:E > Can't seem to locate the standard include files on 6.2-1H3 OpenVMS.o0 > But, no problem finding them on 7.2 OpenVMS... > 
 > What gives?  > I > from the top of the system disk... dir [...]stdio.h reveals no matches.m >  > * > Where did dec hide the include files at?  C The header include files are part of the Compaq C product, not the   operating system.a   -Johno wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Onlyh   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:25:43 GMT 5 From: Dave <old-computers@-SPAMMERS-BITE-ME-snet.net>nE Subject: Re: How to install DSP3107L disk in a Storageworks canister?I: Message-ID: <3C98E1AC.6F1B40B2@-SPAMMERS-BITE-ME-snet.net>   Dave Greenwood wrote:y > X > In a previous article, "news-server.rochester.rr.com" <kevino@rochester.rr.com> wrote:M > > I  believe one of those jumpers is for drive spin up, at least this couldaF > > explain the medium offline error. Does the drive spin on power up?P > > if not try one jumper at a time and just power up until the drive spins?  OrL > > the spin up jumper could be on the bottom of the drive, same suggestion. > E > That jumper is already set.  At least, I assume the jumper labelledeF > "Spin Up" means to spin up on power up.  It's pretty hard to tell if> > the disk is actually spinning up or not since the fan in the$ > StorageWorks pizza box is so loud. > I > Isn't there a SCSI command to tell a drive to spin up?  Is there a toola5 > that would allow me to issue that command from VMS?  > --------------  @ Yes, on my Adaptec 2940W, it's "Send Start Unit Command" option.  G You could try the drive without the Spin Up jumper. Thne it should spinp up on power up...h   ------------------------------   Date: 20 MAR 2002 21:06:15 GMT+ From: Dave Greenwood <greenwoodde@ornl.gov> E Subject: Re: How to install DSP3107L disk in a Storageworks canister?i2 Message-ID: <20MAR02.21061516@feda34.fed.ornl.gov>  M In a previous article, Dave <old-computers@-SPAMMERS-BITE-ME-snet.net> wrote:D > Dave Greenwood wrote:0 > > Z > > In a previous article, "news-server.rochester.rr.com" <kevino@rochester.rr.com> wrote:O > > > I  believe one of those jumpers is for drive spin up, at least this couldnH > > > explain the medium offline error. Does the drive spin on power up?R > > > if not try one jumper at a time and just power up until the drive spins?  OrN > > > the spin up jumper could be on the bottom of the drive, same suggestion. > > G > > That jumper is already set.  At least, I assume the jumper labelledhH > > "Spin Up" means to spin up on power up.  It's pretty hard to tell if@ > > the disk is actually spinning up or not since the fan in the& > > StorageWorks pizza box is so loud. > > K > > Isn't there a SCSI command to tell a drive to spin up?  Is there a toole7 > > that would allow me to issue that command from VMS?  > > -------------- >   B > Yes, on my Adaptec 2940W, it's "Send Start Unit Command" option. >  oI > You could try the drive without the Spin Up jumper. Thne it should spin  > up on power up...g  C Without the Spin Up jumper it sounds like it spins up when I do thenE MOUNT command.  In fact, it starts to mount but goes into mountVerify @ while it's supposed to be doing its rebuild.  But that's another. problem which I'll look at after it times out.   Thanks,a Dave --------------9 Dave Greenwood                Email: Greenwoodde@ORNL.GOV,H Oak Ridge National Lab        %STD-W-DISCLAIMER, I only speak for myself   ------------------------------   Date: 20 Mar 2002 22:16:50 GMT) From: wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl (Wilko Bulte) E Subject: Re: How to install DSP3107L disk in a Storageworks canister?l? Message-ID: <3c990a51$0$18520$e4fe514c@dreader4.news.xs4all.nl>Y  t In <DXRl8.122693$nl1.21906634@typhoon.nyroc.rr.com> "news-server.rochester.rr.com" <kevino@rochester.rr.com> writes:  J >I  believe one of those jumpers is for drive spin up, at least this couldC >explain the medium offline error. Does the drive spin on power up?eM >if not try one jumper at a time and just power up until the drive spins?  Or2I >the spin up jumper could be on the bottom of the drive, same suggestion.r  ; a >>> SHOW DEVICE at SRM level will also spin it up for youh    * >Kevin O'Reilly    kevino@rochester.rr.com5 >SMP Services    the artist formally known as digitale    9 >"Dave Greenwood" <greenwoodde@ornl.gov> wrote in messagen- >news:19MAR02.21103585@feda01.fed.ornl.gov...iD >> In a previous article, wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl (Wilko Bulte) wrote:J >> > Ah, I see. You have a white generic-SBB carrier that we sold for some >time.K >> > I don't have the docs on the wiring. If I were to do this I would justtG >> > leave the wires out and run the disk at SCSI ID 0 for the recovery 	 >process.a >> > >> > Shortcut.. granted. >>@ >> Shortcut or not it was worth a try.  Unfortunately I just getB >> "%MOUNT-F-MEDOFL, medium is offline".  Ah well.  Thanks anyway. >> >> Dave  >> --------------.< >> Dave Greenwood                Email: Greenwoodde@ORNL.GOVK >> Oak Ridge National Lab        %STD-W-DISCLAIMER, I only speak for myselfs     --% |   / o / /_  _   		wilko@FreeBSD.orgo0 |/|/ / / /(  (_)  Bulte		Arnhem, the Netherlands   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2002 12:56:05 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris)sP Subject: Re: HP's viewpoint on Linux, was: Re: Sun eating major helping of Linux= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0203201256.663e0832@posting.google.com>m   Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <andrew_nospam.remove_this.harrison@sun.com> wrote in message news:<3C986D1C.2040805@sun.com>...B > However in the real world Linux isn't ready for primetime as an  > enterprise class OSs  C I'm of the opinion that Linux is finally achieving critical mass int the marketplace.  @ E*Trade recently announced they're replacing Solaris on Sun withM Linux.  See http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article/0,,10693_965301,00.htmleB  E*Trade "revealed that it will migrate its entire customer-facingD financial services platform to an open Linux environment."  CIO Josh? "Levine said the new Linux servers will replace Sun Microsystem = servers running Solaris."  This represents the loss of a big,a? highly-visible customer for Sun.  (And before you ask, only SunaF systems have been displaced by Linux; a big VMS Cluster still does all% the heavy lifting in the background.)o  B > Apart from anything it does not scale to much more than 4 CPU's.  " That is changing even as we speak.  ) > One customer I work with is trialing itPA > for compute servers and small web/apps servers. They have had aeD > team of engineers working on integrating OpenSource and CommercialB > tools, filesystems etc into their distribution to get Linux to aD > state where they are confident that it will meet even these rather@ > limitted requirements. Almost all the work they have had to doA > themselves or pay other people to do is unecessary on either off@ > the two commercial UNIX's that they also use. They have had to+ > start at the filesystem and work upwards.V > A > How many of your customers would replace the OpenVMS filesysteme; > or the Tru64 filesystem because it isn't robust enough ??t  F From what I'm told, most Solaris customers use the Veritas file system/ in place of the native one that comes from Sun.h  C I don't know of any customers who replace the OpenVMS file system. I3 And Tru64 has AdvFS available from the same vendor.c  A > Linux represents a much bigger threat to Compaq than it does tolD > Sun. Solaris has the largest number of commercial apps appart fromG > Win32 and it offers excelent capabilites for running both Linux (GNU)v > and Win32 apps.w  A Compaq's hardware runs Linux very well, and Compaq doesn't try toiD force Tru64 down customers' throats when they really want Linux.  It@ is apparent that Sun is only half-heartedly and very-reluctantly@ supporting Linux.  As the tone of your post indicates, Sun feelsE impelled to try to convince customers they are stupid to choose Linuxe5 over Solaris.  But customers are never, never stupid!v  B As far as risk is concerned, Compaq is diversified, while Sun is aC one-trick pony.  For those customers who want Windows, Compaq sellseF that.  For customers who want Unix, Compaq sells Tru64 and Linux.  ForE customers who want VMS or Tandem, Compaq sells those.  Sun is the oneaF with all their eggs in the Solaris basket.  So Compaq is at much lowerF risk here.  If Linux wins, Compaq wins.  If Windows wins, Compaq wins.D  If Windows wins, Sun is toast.  If Linux wins in the Unix area, Sun! will be playing catch-up at best.a  D With respect to Win32 apps on Solaris, give me a break!  Most peopleD wouldn't even consider running Win32 applications under Solaris as a* credible alternative to simply using a PC.  D > Linux will not kill off all the Commercial UNIX's any more than NTB > did. What it is most likely to do is kill the marginal platforms  E I believe Linux marginalizes all Commercial UNIX platforms.  No, theyc= won't go away overnight, but Linux is gaining the majority ofoF mindshare in the UNIX marketplace, so they'll all be relegated to tinyE niche markets eventually.  The direction is for all the best features < of each proprietary UNIX to eventually be included in Linux.. ----------------------------------------------. Keith Parris | parris at encompasserve dot org   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:59:49 -0500@- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> P Subject: Re: HP's viewpoint on Linux, was: Re: Sun eating major helping of Linux, Message-ID: <3C99307F.2C879034@videotron.ca>   Keith Parris wrote: C > Compaq's hardware runs Linux very well, and Compaq doesn't try toyC > force Tru64 down customers' throats when they really want Linux. u  R Compaq tries to shove wintel down customers's throats if they want something else.  L You have to admire Sun for selling its own products and wanting to makes its% own products compete against others'.e  L Compaq has consistently prefered to sell other people's stuff at the expenseG of its own more profitable products. Digital under Palmer did the same.f  D > As far as risk is concerned, Compaq is diversified, while Sun is a > one-trick pony.t  J Judging from Compaq's advertising, they are also a one trick pony: WINTEL.  > > I believe Linux marginalizes all Commercial UNIX platforms.   J Will Linux really be able to eventually match the reliability, support andF scalability of the commercial Unix systems ? (or VMS for that matter).   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 04:43:11 GMT?* From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>P Subject: Re: HP's viewpoint on Linux, was: Re: Sun eating major helping of Linux@ Message-ID: <zxdm8.15768$Gf.1088582@bin2.nnrp.aus1.giganews.com>  : "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote in message& news:3C99307F.2C879034@videotron.ca...   ...   @ > Will Linux really be able to eventually match the reliability,  L Possibly.  That's the contention of the open-source movement (many eyes makeK for more robust code), and there seems to be at least some evidence to thatdJ effect if one waits for releases to settle significantly before committingK to them (e.g., does anyone know whether any 2.4.x releases have yet reachedm6 the stability of the later ones in the 2.2.x series?).    support  I Possibly.  Many hands, this time - far, far more than are involved in thesK development of VMS, but then you have the problem that from the outside (atsL least while you're getting your feet wet and haven't learned the ropes) it'sG a lot harder to know who's worth talking with and who isn't (save for a:K relatively small number of well-known people who are likely far too busy toi help).  F So corporations may feel more comfortable dealing with commercial UnixE vendors with a paid support staff:  though there's nothing to preventeE commercial support groups for Linux as well (and in fact I think theytJ already exist for at least some of the major distributions), the idea thatL the people providing you with a fix are the same people who will incorporateK it into the OS distribution itself may give them a warmer, fuzzier feeling.i  G Of course, one dimension of support that's almost completely lacking insI commercial offerings is the ability to tweak the OS itself to do what youaJ need.  Likely suitable only in rare instances, but once in a while perhaps worth a lot.    andH > scalability of the commercial Unix systems ? (or VMS for that matter).  H Probably not.  IIRC Linus is on record as not wanting to burden the vastE majority of Linux users with the mechanism (e.g., fine-grained locks) L required to make Linux scale significantly to large SMP configurations - andJ that kind of change is sufficiently pervasive that expecting it to turn upG in an alternative distribution patch may well be silly.  OTOH, Linux iscI *heavily* into clustering, and versions that cluster many 4 - 8 processorBH 'nodes' hardware-partitioned out of a much larger SMP box will likely beG available, lacking mostly only the software-partitionability of Galaxy.l  K Just to get the ball rolling:  I know next to nothing about Linux, and hopen* someone else will now flesh out the above.   - bill   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:17:12 -0500// From: "Michael A. Foley" <mikiefoley@yahoo.com>uO Subject: Re: HP's viewpoint on Linux, was: Re: Sun eating major helping ofLinuxa/ Message-ID: <u9hv2stj6ih950@corp.supernews.com>8  E     Ya know, in a perverse way, I've missed the Andrew and Fred Show.V  0     I dare say it's nice to see you back Andrew.   mike    @ "Fred Kleinsorge" <kleinsorge@star.zko.dec.com> wrote in message- news:kG3m8.1261$fL6.25801@news.cpqcorp.net...  >t4 > Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote in message > <3C98B3EC.8040101@sun.com>...-+ > >Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote:- >-@ > >Funny you accuse me of being non technical and a market-droidH > >but you do so in a series of postings full of supposition, stupidity,B > >factual errors and name calling. If thats what it takes to gain? > >the "acolade" of being branded technical by you then call me@ > >a sales guy.i > >a >>+ > You mean you aren't a sales/market droid?i >o >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:58:25 -0800e" From: Koloth <koloth@telocity.com>+ Subject: Re: HPCL minute of the day: HP/EOD , Message-ID: <3C997681.6EC19540@telocity.com>   OK I give.  I don't get it       "David J. Dachtera" wrote:   > Didier Morandi wrote:o > >hI > > I get a syntax error in the following line and do not figure out why:n > >- > > $ type sys$input > > $HPb > >  > > hello sailor > >- > > $EOD
 > > $ exit > >a > > :-)) > >  > > D. >m > Oh, for the love of ...r >m > -- > David J. Dachtera  > dba DJE Systems$ > http://www.djesys.com/ >.* > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/u   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2002 11:48:27 -0800. From: SPAMSINK2001@YAHOO.COM (Alan E. Feldman): Subject: IF-THEN-ELSE oddity: Extra ELSE's cause no error!= Message-ID: <343f30ae.0203201148.67ef029a@posting.google.com>    Hello,  8 I have stubled upon an interesting IF-THEN-ELSE oddity.   # Example:  (WSO := WRITE SYS$OUTPUT)0   DCL$ TYPE HUH2.COM $    IF P1.EQ.0n	 $    THENi $        WSO "P1 = 0"j $    ELSE  ! 1 $        WSO "ELSE 1 P1 != 0"8 $    ELSE  ! 2 $        WSO "ELSE 2 P1 != 0"e $    ELSE  ! 3 $        WSO "ELSE 3 P1 != 0"l	 $    ELSES $        WSO "ELSE 4 P1 != 0"u
 $    ENDIF DCL$ DCL$ SET VERIFYi DCL$ DCL$ @HUH2 6 $    IF P1.EQ.0u $    ELSE  ! 1 $        WSO "ELSE 1 P1 != 0"  ELSE 1 P1 != 0 $    ELSE  ! 2
 $    ENDIF DCL$  / This was run on V6.2. It does the same on V6.1.a  @ Shouldn't this trigger an IF-THEN-ELSE syntax error or the like?   Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman " afeldman atski gfigroup dotski com4 "Help me help you help me help you"  --Bob Patterson   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:10:17 -0500   From: norm.raphael@jamesbury.com> Subject: Re: IF-THEN-ELSE oddity: Extra ELSE's cause no error!4 Message-ID: <C2256B82.006E54C1.00@jklh21.valmet.com>  B By the way, if you'd shave closer, you'd not "stub[b]le" so often.   Does it on V7.2-2, too.H   It _is_ bad syntax:D  @ -*- Charlie Hammond's unsupported DCL checker (Version E2.2) -*- Checking file HUH2.COM;l  . Starting Pass 1 -- 20-MAR-2002 15:01:09.05 .... Starting Pass 2 -- 20-MAR-2002 15:01:09.58 .... Starting Pass 3 -- 20-MAR-2002 15:01:09.77 ...  & Procedure contains:     14 total linesE                         13 code lines (including 3 lines w/ comments)s8                          0 additional continuation lines5                          0 lines w/i $DECK/$EOD pairsO-                          1 comment only lines &                          0 blank lines  #  LINE  CODE  --DIAGNOSTIC MESSAGE--t+     8  ENA  ELSE statement not allowed hered+    10  ENA  ELSE statement not allowed here +    12  ENA  ELSE statement not allowed here>0 -*- END OF LISTING -*-   20-MAR-2002 15:01:10.37            0 SPAMSINK2001@yahoo.com on 03/20/2002 02:48:27 PM  ( Please respond to SPAMSINK2001@yahoo.com   To:   Info-VAX@mvb.saic.comt/ cc:    (bcc: Norm Raphael/WOR/Automation/METSO)r; Subject:  IF-THEN-ELSE oddity: Extra ELSE's cause no error!          Hello,  7 I have stubled upon an interesting IF-THEN-ELSE oddity.p  # Example:  (WSO := WRITE SYS$OUTPUT)    DCL$ TYPE HUH2.COM $    IF P1.EQ.0a	 $    THEN  $        WSO "P1 = 0"  $    ELSE  ! 1 $        WSO "ELSE 1 P1 != 0"o $    ELSE  ! 2 $        WSO "ELSE 2 P1 != 0"  $    ELSE  ! 3 $        WSO "ELSE 3 P1 != 0"a	 $    ELSE  $        WSO "ELSE 4 P1 != 0"u
 $    ENDIF DCL$ DCL$ SET VERIFYd DCL$ DCL$ @HUH2 6 $    IF P1.EQ.0e $    ELSE  ! 1 $        WSO "ELSE 1 P1 != 0"o ELSE 1 P1 != 0 $    ELSE  ! 2
 $    ENDIF DCL$  / This was run on V6.2. It does the same on V6.1..  @ Shouldn't this trigger an IF-THEN-ELSE syntax error or the like?   Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman-" afeldman atski gfigroup dotski com4 "Help me help you help me help you"  --Bob Patterson   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 15:51:50 -0500 1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>d> Subject: Re: IF-THEN-ELSE oddity: Extra ELSE's cause no error!2 Message-ID: <3C98F666.BABCCDBD@firstdbasource.com>   I don't get an error (7.2-1)  H You don't have enough logic to go beyond "ELSE 1" If it is not 0 then itE will always be resolved by the first ELSE.  if it is not 0 then it isl not 0.  D You would need to use multiple IF statements to processes beyond theG first one.  DCL does not appear to go beyond the ELSE as you would needn* something like ELSEIF that does not exist.    -- o Regards,  7 Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163t7 First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.com  Sr. Consultant 704-947-1089 (Office)t 704-236-4377 (Mobile)        @HUH2   !!!p1 = 0n > $    IF P1.EQ.0  > $    THENe > $        WSO "P1 = 0"b   True     > $    ELSE  ! 1 > $        WSO "ELSE 1 P1 != 0"d > $    ELSE  ! 2 > $        WSO "ELSE 2 P1 != 0"a > $    ELSE  ! 3 > $        WSO "ELSE 3 P1 != 0"- > $    ELSE  > $        WSO "ELSE 4 P1 != 0"s > $    ENDIF > DCL$ > DCL$ SET VERIFY  > DCL$ > DCL$ @HUH2 6 > $    IF P1.EQ.0U > $    ELSE  ! 1 > $        WSO "ELSE 1 P1 != 0"g > ELSE 1 P1 != 0 > $    ELSE  ! 2 > $    ENDIF > DCL$ > 1 > This was run on V6.2. It does the same on V6.1.o > B > Shouldn't this trigger an IF-THEN-ELSE syntax error or the like? >  > Disclaimer: JMHO > Alan E. Feldmanl$ > afeldman atski gfigroup dotski com6 > "Help me help you help me help you"  --Bob Patterson   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:12:15 +0000 (UTC)o* From: bleau@umtof.umd.edu (Lawrence Bleau)( Subject: Re: Incremental BACKUP question0 Message-ID: <a7b8gv$j66$3@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>  w In article <01KF8AER7G2Q8Y996Y@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>, Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> writes:x  F >> ->> Use /NOINCREMENTAL on the backup command. That will restore theM >> ->> pre-paranoid behavior of not looking at the directory revision dates. t  D >> ->The /INCREMENTAL qualifier is valid only in restore operations. >> fB >$ pipe help backup/incremental | search sys$input "valid only in"E >     The /INCREMENTAL qualifier is valid only in restore operations.p >mA >So HELP is wrong.  Hopefully it will be corrected in the future!   K Not necessarily.  It could be that BACK has defined both a /INCREMENTAL andkK /NOINCREMENTAL qualifier, with neither one being the negation of the other.e  G It's quite conceivable that /INCREMENTAL (a non-negatable qualifier) isAK used only for restore operations, yet /NOINCREMENTAL (another non-negatables+ qualifier) is used only on save operations.        Lawrence Bleau University of Maryland" Physics Dept., Space Physics Group 301-405-6223 bleau@umtof.umd.edur   ------------------------------   Date: 21 Mar 2002 04:51:11 GMT& From: peter@abbnm.com (Peter da Silva) Subject: Re: Itanium troublesn% Message-ID: <a7borv$joo@web.nmti.com>t  0 In article <DF1j8.548$uA1.2001@news.get2net.dk>,# Dr. Dweeb <Dweeb@NoSpam.com> wrote:hJ > And that only because NT4 is being desupported.  Big shops need a lot ofJ > calendar time to get to changeover completed, and they have a latest end > date for the task now.  E I just had a developer come by and ask if we possibly still had a Jan)@ 2000 MSDN Library CD, because the more recent ones don't provideG adequate documentation of the pre-.NET world. I don't know how accurate(3 that is, but I know he was glad I had held onto it.   E It's obvious how Microsoft plans to railroad us into funding the next2E generation of the Wintel marketing pyramid. If the JD wants to imposeaD meaningful restrictions on Microsoft, they should be forcing them to( maintain support for the pre-.NET world.   -- o+  `-_-'   In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva. E   'U`    "A well-rounded geek should be able to geek about anything."iL                                                        -- nicolai@esperi.org          Disclaimer: WWFD?   ------------------------------   Date: 21 Mar 2002 04:54:48 GMT& From: peter@abbnm.com (Peter da Silva) Subject: Re: Itanium troublese% Message-ID: <a7bp2o$jv3@web.nmti.com>o  6 In article <pan.2002.03.11.22.45.01.622854.476@ua.pt>,! Ricardo B  <etralex@ua.pt> wrote:i5 > On Wed, 20 Feb 2002 20:31:27 +0000, JF Mezei wrote:tD > > Compaq and HP trust Intel so much that HP got Compaq to murder aF > > perfectly good chip that was better than what IA64 could ever be.   K > Alpha was good, but didn't sell well enough. It was becoming a burden for 	 > Compaq.   E How does the more profitable part of a company qualify as "a burden"?    -- u+  `-_-'   In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva.pE   'U`    "A well-rounded geek should be able to geek about anything."iL                                                        -- nicolai@esperi.org          Disclaimer: WWFD?   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2002 11:29:07 -0800, From: cmussche@volvocars.com (Carlo Mussche)' Subject: Re: lpd printing + telnetqueueh= Message-ID: <ab891bd3.0203201129.5d747a5d@posting.google.com>   - Well I get a few pages with some "garbage" onh  U Jan-Erik Sderholm <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message news:<3C91F532.F8E2E20F@aaa.com>...o2 > What do you mean with "not printed correctly" ?? >  > Jan-Erik Sderholm.t >  > Carlo Mussche wrote: > > I > > On my nt-pc i've added a printer with a LPR port referring to a queueoI > > PBEPQPTEST on VMS(defined as a local queue in LPD on VMS).  The queue E > > itself is defined as a telnetqueue.  But the jobs are not printedt: > > correctly.  Do you know what the cause of this can be? > > 
 > > printcap:s > > PBEPQPTEST|pbepqptest:\l8 > >         :lf=/SYS$SPECIFIC/TCPIP$LPD/PBEPQPTEST.LOG:\ > >         :lp=PBEPQPTEST:\3 > >         :sd=/SYS$SPECIFIC/TCPIP$LPD/PBEPQPTEST:  > >  > > printer queue created byI > > INITIALIZE/QUEUE/PROCESSOR=TCPIP$TELNETSYM/on="ipadd:9100" PBEPQPTESTe > > E > > (If I do lpr printing from another vms machine to that queue thaty > > works fine.)   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:37:07 -0300 (BRT)c From: valdemir-@uol.com.br Subject: MicroVax Crashv4 Message-ID: <200203202237.TAA27280@wilde.uol.com.br>  7 In my job we have an MicroVax 3100/95, OpenVMS 5.5-2h4. 7 When I try recover a database (using RMU/RESTORE), thisi8 system crash. Looking Operator.log I get these messages:    5 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.96 %%%%%%%%%%%o" Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4I Old Specific Filter=3D{}, Old Global Filter=3D{{EventCode =3D {(Node) Allh2 Events}, Filter Action =3D Ignore}, {EventCode =3DJ {(Node, Event Dispatcher) All Events}, Filter Action =3D Block}, {EventCo= de =3D/ {(Node, Event Dispatcher, SINK) All Events},=20  Filter Actit  7 [B%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.96 %%%%%%%%%%%o" Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4- eventUid 0066C4CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04a. entityUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04. streamUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04  5 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%%n" Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4D Event: Change Filter from: Node 0 Event Dispatcher SINK PhaseV_Sink,6 at: 2002-03-20-15:10:07.32000 - 02:00 I 28147497.67107  5 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%%i2 %DTSS-I-SETTDF, DTSS set new timezone differential  5 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:09:59.27 %%%%%%%%%%%u" Message from user DECNET on DRVAX4 DECnet event 4.10, circuit up-1 >From node 1.12 (DRVAX4), 20-MAR-2002 13:09:57.33o
 Circuit ISA-0-  5 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:04.68 %%%%%%%%%%%0" Message from user DECNET on DRVAX4 DECnet event 4.15, adjacency up'1 >From node 1.12 (DRVAX4), 20-MAR-2002 13:10:01.67p. Circuit ISA-0, Adjacent node =3D 1.13 (DRVAX6)  5 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.96 %%%%%%%%%%%u" Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4D Event: Change Filter from: Node 0 Event Dispatcher SINK PhaseV_Sink,6 at: 2002-03-20-15:10:07.20000 - 02:00 I 28147497.67107  5 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.96 %%%%%%%%%%%d" Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4I Old Specific Filter=3D{}, Old Global Filter=3D{{EventCode =3D {(Node) Allq2 Events}, Filter Action =3D Ignore}, {EventCode =3DJ {(Node, Event Dispatcher) All Events}, Filter Action =3D Block}, {EventCo= de =3D/ {(Node, Event Dispatcher, SINK) All Events},=20  Filter Actid  7 [B%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.96 %%%%%%%%%%%'" Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4- eventUid 0066C4CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04l. entityUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04. streamUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04  5 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%%s" Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4D Event: Change Filter from: Node 0 Event Dispatcher SINK PhaseV_Sink,6 at: 2002-03-20-15:10:07.32000 - 02:00 I 28147497.67107  5 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%%p" Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4I Old Specific Filter=3D{}, Old Global Filter=3D{{EventCode =3D {(Node) AlliA Events}, Filter Action =3D Ignore}, {EventCode =3D {(Node, =81=9F.  5 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%%c" Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4- eventUid 80B5D6CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04(. entityUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04. streamUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04  5 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%%f" Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4D Event: Change Filter from: Node 0 Event Dispatcher SINK PhaseV_Sink,6 at: 2002-03-20-15:10:07.43000 - 02:00 I 28147497.67107  5 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%%r" Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4I Old Specific Filter=3D{}, Old Global Filter=3D{{EventCode =3D {(Node) AlloA Events}, Filter Action =3D Ignore}, {EventCode =3D {(Node, =81=9Fo  5 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%%s" Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4- eventUid 607EE7CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04y. entityUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04. streamUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04  5 %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.98 %%%%%%%%%%%v" Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4D Event: Change Filter from: Node 0 Event Dispatcher SINK PhaseV_Sink,6 at: 2002-03-20-15:10:07.54000 - 02:00 I 28147497.67107  . My question: What does it mean these messages?C We have 15 Vax machines in network, and only this MicroVax (DRVAX4)a haves this problem...g   Thanks in advance... =20n   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:02:45 -0500h1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>e Subject: Re: MicroVax Crashr2 Message-ID: <3C991515.4EF6325D@firstdbasource.com>   valdemir-@uol.com.br wrote:t > 9 > In my job we have an MicroVax 3100/95, OpenVMS 5.5-2h4.b9 > When I try recover a database (using RMU/RESTORE), thish: > system crash. Looking Operator.log I get these messages: > 7 > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.96 %%%%%%%%%%%y$ > Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4E > Old Specific Filter={}, Old Global Filter={{EventCode = {(Node) Allp0 > Events}, Filter Action = Ignore}, {EventCode =M > {(Node, Event Dispatcher) All Events}, Filter Action = Block}, {EventCode =m. > {(Node, Event Dispatcher, SINK) All Events},
 > Filter Actih > 9 > [B%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.96 %%%%%%%%%%%t$ > Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4/ > eventUid 0066C4CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04t0 > entityUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C040 > streamUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04 > 7 > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%%/$ > Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4F > Event: Change Filter from: Node 0 Event Dispatcher SINK PhaseV_Sink,8 > at: 2002-03-20-15:10:07.32000 - 02:00 I 28147497.67107 > 7 > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%% 4 > %DTSS-I-SETTDF, DTSS set new timezone differential > 7 > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:09:59.27 %%%%%%%%%%%n$ > Message from user DECNET on DRVAX4 > DECnet event 4.10, circuit ups3 > >From node 1.12 (DRVAX4), 20-MAR-2002 13:09:57.33a > Circuit ISA-0a > 7 > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:04.68 %%%%%%%%%%%K$ > Message from user DECNET on DRVAX4! > DECnet event 4.15, adjacency upn3 > >From node 1.12 (DRVAX4), 20-MAR-2002 13:10:01.67t. > Circuit ISA-0, Adjacent node = 1.13 (DRVAX6) > 7 > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.96 %%%%%%%%%%%t$ > Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4F > Event: Change Filter from: Node 0 Event Dispatcher SINK PhaseV_Sink,8 > at: 2002-03-20-15:10:07.20000 - 02:00 I 28147497.67107 > 7 > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.96 %%%%%%%%%%%o$ > Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4E > Old Specific Filter={}, Old Global Filter={{EventCode = {(Node) Allt0 > Events}, Filter Action = Ignore}, {EventCode =M > {(Node, Event Dispatcher) All Events}, Filter Action = Block}, {EventCode =r. > {(Node, Event Dispatcher, SINK) All Events},
 > Filter Acti  > 9 > [B%%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.96 %%%%%%%%%%%D$ > Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4/ > eventUid 0066C4CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04 0 > entityUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C040 > streamUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04 > 7 > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%%-$ > Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4F > Event: Change Filter from: Node 0 Event Dispatcher SINK PhaseV_Sink,8 > at: 2002-03-20-15:10:07.32000 - 02:00 I 28147497.67107 > 7 > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%% $ > Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4E > Old Specific Filter={}, Old Global Filter={{EventCode = {(Node) All ; > Events}, Filter Action = Ignore}, {EventCode = {(Node, W > 7 > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%% $ > Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4/ > eventUid 80B5D6CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04 0 > entityUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C040 > streamUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04 > 7 > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%%1$ > Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4F > Event: Change Filter from: Node 0 Event Dispatcher SINK PhaseV_Sink,8 > at: 2002-03-20-15:10:07.43000 - 02:00 I 28147497.67107 > 7 > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%%a$ > Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4E > Old Specific Filter={}, Old Global Filter={{EventCode = {(Node) All-; > Events}, Filter Action = Ignore}, {EventCode = {(Node, a > 7 > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.97 %%%%%%%%%%%E$ > Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4/ > eventUid 607EE7CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04 0 > entityUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C040 > streamUid C08490CC-033C-D611-8001-AA0004000C04 > 7 > %%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 20-MAR-2002 13:10:07.98 %%%%%%%%%%%i$ > Message from user SYSTEM on DRVAX4F > Event: Change Filter from: Node 0 Event Dispatcher SINK PhaseV_Sink,8 > at: 2002-03-20-15:10:07.54000 - 02:00 I 28147497.67107 > 0 > My question: What does it mean these messages?E > We have 15 Vax machines in network, and only this MicroVax (DRVAX4)n > haves this problem...  >  > Thanks in advance... >     " what version of Rdb are you using.  G Look at PGFLQUO,ENQU,FILLM and ASTLM for the user doing the restore and 9 see if there is an database dumpfile (rdm*.dmp,rmu*.dmp).I  = go to DRVAX4 and ANAL/CRASH and see what the crash dump says.  --   Regards,  7 Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163w7 First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.com7 Sr. Consultant 704-947-1089 (Office)  704-236-4377 (Mobile)    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:44:03 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>rA Subject: Re: MONI SYS shows 80% CPU usage and 8 jobs in COM state , Message-ID: <3C991EC3.B276CF73@videotron.ca>  H If 2 cpus show 158% usage with 8 processes in COM, it is possible that 7M processes are running on one CPU which is at 100% while the other CPU is only1* at 58% with the remaining process in COM ?   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2002 16:11:55 -0800( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)/ Subject: Once a fool, always a fool I guess ...F= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0203201611.4943c0aa@posting.google.com>   C windoze and linux users just keep on dreaming and say to themselvesCF daily that "things are getting better" & "all os's have this problem",D while still unaware that there is a "unhackable" os, VMS ... I guessA once a fool, always a fool ... from computerworld ... notice theylD mention windoze, linux, unix and even IBM mainframes, but not a peep about vms ... I wonder why?2  . Analysts: Security flaws won't undermine Linux   By TODD R. WEISS u (March 15, 2002) EC Although two potential security vulnerabilities affecting the LinuxDD operating system have surfaced in the past three weeks, analysts and@ two users say the incidents won't erode confidence in Linux as a6 secure and economical alternative to Windows and Unix.  A "I don't think we have any concern in particular about [choosing] E Linux," said Matt Fahrner, manager of network services for BurlingtonEC Coat Factory Warehouse Corp. The Burlington, N.J.-based retailer of @ clothing and other consumer goods moved to Linux for much of its! retail IT infrastructure in 2000.   C Fahrner said he found the Linux community to be far more responsivetD than traditional, proprietary operating system vendors when security= issues have cropped up, issuing fixes and patches quickly andS	 publicly.   E "We haven't found [the news of vulnerabilities] as something that now 1 dissuades us from the operating system," he said.   B Last week, a security flaw affecting Linux was found in the widelyB used zlib file compression library, which helps speed network fileD transfers (see story). The flaw in a memory allocation routine couldC provide a path for an attacker to send malicious code and take root2 control of the machine.1  E Three weeks ago, a vulnerability was reported in a Netfilter firewall?A component used in various versions of the Linux kernel that couldr@ result in open ports that would allow intrusions by hackers (see story).-  @ "There's a period of shakeout that every [operating system] goesF through," said Eric Hemmendinger, an analyst at Aberdeen Group Inc. inA Boston. "I don't think this will cause people to say, 'Oops, this.$ isn't what we thought it would be.'"  C Many other widely used operating systems, including IBM's mainframeoD software, commercial Unix products and Microsoft Corp.'s Windows NT,A have "gone through a period of security vulnerability issues, but A they've been resolved," Hemmendinger said. "IBM went through thise% period, and they put it behind them."   > Brian Dewey, a network engineer at retailer Raymour & Flanigan> Furniture Co. Inc. in Syracuse, N.Y., said the recent zlib andF Netfilter issues haven't caused him any worries about his use of LinuxB for point-of-sale terminals in 50 stores and in firewall and otherD back-end systems. Dewey said he's satisfied that fixes are posted inD short order to help users. His company, which has used the operatingE system for two years, is installing the zlib patches and updating Redo" Hat Inc. versions from 6.2 to 7.2.  A Alan Paller, research director at the SANS Institute, a Bethesda,nF Md.-based nonprofit security group, said it's not a surprise that moreF vulnerabilities are showing up in Linux, since the operating system isD being used more widely in corporate computing. The larger deploymentD of the operating system means more problems are likely to be seen in larger numbers, Paller said.  D Dan Kusnetzky, an analyst at IDC in Framingham, Mass., said the trueF measure of the problem is not whether security issues crop up, but how quickly they're resolved.v  C "There is no such thing as an unbreakable product," Kusnetzky said. F Instead, users are more interested in whether their Linux vendors takeC quick action to announce and post fixes for new vulnerabilities, heaC said. "The fact that something has shown up is not a major negativeh
 [for Linux]."o   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 14:31:50 +1100a* From: "Dale King" <dalek@forpresident.com>3 Subject: Re: Once a fool, always a fool I guess ...i' Message-ID: <a7bk76$hiq$1@lore.csc.com>o  5 "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in messaget7 news:d7791aa1.0203201611.4943c0aa@posting.google.com...e0 > Analysts: Security flaws won't undermine Linux >b > By TODD R. WEISS > (March 15, 2002)  G > Three weeks ago, a vulnerability was reported in a Netfilter firewall C > component used in various versions of the Linux kernel that couldMB > result in open ports that would allow intrusions by hackers (see	 > story).i  G Wouldn't it be nice to have something like netfilter in the VMS kernel?2N Unfortunately I can't see VMS getting anything as powerful as this in the nearI furture.  Even so, such a piece of software is unlikely to be problem (ore exploit) free first go.p  O Sure we can see VMS isn't susceptible to these attacks, but really, there isn'teN a whole lot of this software functionality on VMS either.  Geez, we still have to pay for a TCP/IP stack!  N I would much rather see VMS get this sort of functionality than users braggingP about how "unhackable" their OS is.  Windows/linux would be too if we didn't run anything on it ;).   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:07:26 +0100i- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@free.fr>-- Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.2-1 and UCX 4.2 ECO 057& Message-ID: <3C98FA0D.300AC17@free.fr>  P Fabio, it takes less than ten minutes to install TCP/IP 5 and it works perfectlyN well on 7.2-1 and you don't even need to reboot. just stop UCX, install TCP/IP* from the VMS CD, restart TCP/IP and voil.   D.   Fabio Cardoso wrote: >  > Davido > 6 > This machine is not clustered, and the users give me7 > just a few hours per weekend to stop it. It is a 24x7 7 > machine, and I dont have conditions now to upgrade tor3 > VMS 7.3 because we didnt test our systems in thiss3 > version. It is better to upgrade "slowly", I willf0 > go to V7.2-1 because all the other machines in4 > the company (other sites) are in this max version.6 > I dont want to cause high impact in this upgrade, it > is6 > because I prefer to just patch the UCX, but if there/ > is no condition I will upgrade to TCPIP 5.0A.  > 6 > I have 1500 printer and server  queues running under > UCX. > 	 > Regards  >  > FC > 5 > --- David Beatty <David.Beatty@qwertysasasdfgh.com>e > wrote: > > 5 > > Any reason why you would not upgrade to V7.2-2 ore > > V7.3 of VMS? > >)8 > > Any reason why you would not upgrade to V5.0 or V5.15 > > of Compaq TCP/IP Services?  I don't think V4.2 isu& > > supported higher than V7.1 of VMS. > >2 > > David R. Beattyl > >b3 > > On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 04:27:45 -0800 (PST), Fabio5 > > Cardoson% > > <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote:S > >,' > > >Anyone is using OpenVMS 7.2-1 withg > > >UCX 4.2 ECO 05 ?  > > >%7 > > >I am planning to upgrade one Alphaserver this nextg4 > > >weeked. The actual versions are OpenVMS 7.1-1h2 > > >and UCX 4.2 ECO 1.v > > > ) > > >Reading the README of the UCX ECO atD) > > >ftp.support.compaq.com, it is sayingp, > > >that UCX ECO 05 is compatible just with > > >OpenVMS 7.1 (max version).  > > >h- > > >Is that right ? Is the V7.2-1 compatible%# > > >only with TCPIP Services 5.x ?9 > > >% > > >Regards > > >u > > >T > > >R
 > > >===== > > >==========================0 > > >Fbio dos Santos Cardoso- > > >OpenVMS System Managerm > > >Rio de Janeiro - Brazil > > >fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br  > > >==========================% > > >s7 > > >__________________________________________________: > > >Do You Yahoo!?h0 > > >Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage > > >http://sports.yahoo.com/% > >% >  > =====M > ========================== > Fbio dos Santos Cardoso > OpenVMS System Manager > Rio de Janeiro - BrazilR > fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br > ========================== > 4 > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!?- > Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage  > http://sports.yahoo.com/   -- %H   ----------------------------------------------------------------------H MORANDI Consultants  -  WEB: http://Didier.Morandi.Free.fr/index_us.htmlH Pflanzschulstrasse 53, 8004 Zurich, Switzerland. GSM: +41 (0)79 705 4670H 19, chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France.  GSM: +33 (0)6 7983 6418  H Disaster Recovery Plans, Computer Security Audits, DEC OpenVMS ExpertiseH On parle franais Man spricht Deutsch se habla Castellano English spoken   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:09:56 +0100  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>- Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.2-1 and UCX 4.2 ECO 05}& Message-ID: <3C9916C4.1070709@home.nl>  H I don't quite understand this move. V7.2-1 has been replaced by V7.2-2, G which is basically V7.2-1 with a lot of patches. V7.2-1 is no longer a 0H supported version (or will not be shortly). TCPIP V5.1 is a much better = version than the old UCX, and you can still use UCX commands.C    -   Fabio Cardoso wrote:  $ >Anyone is using OpenVMS 7.2-1 with  >UCX 4.2 ECO 05 ?% >P3 >I am planning to upgrade one Alphaserver this nextm0 >weeked. The actual versions are OpenVMS 7.1-1h2 >and UCX 4.2 ECO 1.h >S& >Reading the README of the UCX ECO at & >ftp.support.compaq.com, it is saying ( >that UCX ECO 05 is compatible just with >OpenVMS 7.1 (max version).Y >M) >Is that right ? Is the V7.2-1 compatiblel >only with TCPIP Services 5.x ?o >  >Regards >, >l >  >===== >==========================N >Fbio dos Santos Cardoso  >OpenVMS System Manager7 >Rio de Janeiro - Brazil >fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br  >==========================0 >A3 >__________________________________________________4 >Do You Yahoo!? , >Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage >http://sports.yahoo.com/1 >7   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:12:12 -0000f? From: "Malcolm MacArthur" <malcolmix@neverness.freeserve.co.uk>:N Subject: PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM! Now! (was Re: Suggested enhancement. for DECterm.). Message-ID: <a7atpb$h31$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>  0 "Fred Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> wrote in message( news:a79o3r$r95$1@info.service.rug.nl...: >For easier tracing the location of the users of a system,8 >it would be advantageous to define the remote port info8 >of the FTA device of a DECterm to the properties of the/ >related DISPLAY, e.g.: TCP/host.domain:1.0, or8 >DECNET/host:0.0.t >m >What do you think of it?-N This is something that comes up from time to time, and I am personally sick of it!u  K It's completely RIDICULOUS that the only way to find out where an Xterminalh
 user is isM via a convoluted routine using ANALYZE/SYSTEM! For goodness' sake, just abouts ANYeM Unix system I have ever seen can find this using 'w' or 'who'. But VMS? Nope.(  M It's just an absolutely stupid situation and I can see NO good reason for it.-  K What is the problem with adding a PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM function for a suitably< privileged user?G It would then be a simple matter of the DECW$TE_nnnn controller processf getting this information: from the WSAn: device and calling PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM. Easy.  K Last time I proposed this (it was either here or on Encompasserve), someoneEM expressed concern that it would break existing programs that expect no access%F port information on FTAnn: devices. Well, SO WHAT! If a program breaksN because of that, then IMHO it is broken and needs fixed. If that is a concern,N VMS Engineering can add a new SYSGEN parameter, such as FTDRIVER_ACCPORNAM - 1M = allow access port information on FTAnn: devices and allow PTD$SET_ACCPORNAMpM to set it; 0 = don't allow access port information and have PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM0L return success without doing anything. People with software full of bugs can7 then turn off the access port information if necessary.C  M It is a total PITA trying to figure out where a DECterm is... I mean, we have E this thing, the access port name (ACCPORNAM), and it is THE preferredrH mechanism for indicating the location of a terminal... and it isn't even' in the pseudoterminal driver! Sheesh...1  1 If we are lucky, maybe this will arrive in 7.4 ;)%  5 Who agrees that this is a stupid situation? Comments?-   Hoff? (excuse my ranting ;-)  	 -Malcolm.     >                           F.Z.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:36:00 GMTe From: system@SendSpamHere.ORGoR Subject: Re: PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM! Now! (was Re: Suggested enhancement. for DECterm.)0 Message-ID: <00A0B3B5.C801A508@SendSpamHere.ORG>  p In article <a7atpb$h31$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Malcolm MacArthur" <malcolmix@neverness.freeserve.co.uk> writes:1 >"Fred Zwarts" <F.Zwarts@KVI.nl> wrote in message ) >news:a79o3r$r95$1@info.service.rug.nl...9; >>For easier tracing the location of the users of a system,:9 >>it would be advantageous to define the remote port infon9 >>of the FTA device of a DECterm to the properties of the70 >>related DISPLAY, e.g.: TCP/host.domain:1.0, or >>DECNET/host:0.0. >> >>What do you think of it?O >This is something that comes up from time to time, and I am personally sick of, >it! >cL >It's completely RIDICULOUS that the only way to find out where an Xterminal >user is iskN >via a convoluted routine using ANALYZE/SYSTEM! For goodness' sake, just about >ANYN >Unix system I have ever seen can find this using 'w' or 'who'. But VMS? Nope. >TN >It's just an absolutely stupid situation and I can see NO good reason for it. >CL >What is the problem with adding a PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM function for a suitably >privileged user? H >It would then be a simple matter of the DECW$TE_nnnn controller process >getting this informationt; >from the WSAn: device and calling PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM. Easy.2 >-L >Last time I proposed this (it was either here or on Encompasserve), someoneN >expressed concern that it would break existing programs that expect no accessG >port information on FTAnn: devices. Well, SO WHAT! If a program breakseO >because of that, then IMHO it is broken and needs fixed. If that is a concern, O >VMS Engineering can add a new SYSGEN parameter, such as FTDRIVER_ACCPORNAM - 1CN >= allow access port information on FTAnn: devices and allow PTD$SET_ACCPORNAMN >to set it; 0 = don't allow access port information and have PTD$SET_ACCPORNAMM >return success without doing anything. People with software full of bugs can:8 >then turn off the access port information if necessary. >,N >It is a total PITA trying to figure out where a DECterm is... I mean, we haveF >this thing, the access port name (ACCPORNAM), and it is THE preferredI >mechanism for indicating the location of a terminal... and it isn't evenl( >in the pseudoterminal driver! Sheesh... >t2 >If we are lucky, maybe this will arrive in 7.4 ;) > 6 >Who agrees that this is a stupid situation? Comments? >A >Hoff? (excuse my ranting ;-)1 >0
 >-Malcolm. > ! >>                           F.Z.0 >A >4 >C  B Get ACCPORNAM from my ftp site: ftp://www.tmesis.com/ACCPORNAM.ZIP  B Build it and install the .EXEs into your system SYS$SYSTEM.  Place line to executev   $ MCR ACCPORNAM_INIT   in your system's startup.   4 Then add the following to your system's SYLOGIN.COM:  ; $ IF "''F$extract(1,2,F$getdvi("TT","DEVNAM"))'" .EQS. "FT"a $ THEN $   DEFINE/USER SYS$OUTPUT NL: $   SHOW DISPLAY/SYMBOLx- $   MCR ACCPORNAM TT 'DECW$DISPLAY_TRANSPORT'n $ ENDIFa    > Do let us know how may programs break when you implement this.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM             *J   "And of course, I'm a genius, so people are naturally drawn to my fiery I   intellect.  Their admiration overwhelms their envy!" -- Calvin & Hobbes2   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 21:39:58 GMTs From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG R Subject: Re: PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM! Now! (was Re: Suggested enhancement. for DECterm.)0 Message-ID: <00A0B3B6.55E29F7B@SendSpamHere.ORG>  P In article <00A0B3B5.C801A508@SendSpamHere.ORG>, system@SendSpamHere.ORG writes: {...snip...} >CC >Get ACCPORNAM from my ftp site: ftp://www.tmesis.com/ACCPORNAM.ZIPs > C >Build it and install the .EXEs into your system SYS$SYSTEM.  Place  >line to execute >e >$ MCR ACCPORNAM_INITw >  >in your system's startup. > 5 >Then add the following to your system's SYLOGIN.COM:6 >:< >$ IF "''F$extract(1,2,F$getdvi("TT","DEVNAM"))'" .EQS. "FT" >$ THENl >$   DEFINE/USER SYS$OUTPUT NL:s >$   SHOW DISPLAY/SYMBOL. >$   MCR ACCPORNAM TT 'DECW$DISPLAY_TRANSPORT' >$ ENDIF >u >k? >Do let us know how may programs break when you implement this.t  B Forgot to mention that you will need to install ACCPORNAM.EXE with$ CMKRNL privie in the system startup.   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMd            nJ   "And of course, I'm a genius, so people are naturally drawn to my fiery I   intellect.  Their admiration overwhelms their envy!" -- Calvin & Hobbesh   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:03:13 GMTh From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG R Subject: Re: PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM! Now! (was Re: Suggested enhancement. for DECterm.)0 Message-ID: <00A0B3C1.F77E55CB@SendSpamHere.ORG>  p In article <a7b2vh$1h$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Malcolm MacArthur" <malcolmix@neverness.freeserve.co.uk> writes: >M+ ><system@SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote in messageB+ >news:00A0B3B6.55E29F7B@SendSpamHere.ORG...BK >> In article <00A0B3B5.C801A508@SendSpamHere.ORG>, system@SendSpamHere.ORGo >writes: >> {...snip...}a >> >F >> >Get ACCPORNAM from my ftp site: ftp://www.tmesis.com/ACCPORNAM.ZIP >> >F >> >Build it and install the .EXEs into your system SYS$SYSTEM.  Place >> >line to executeu >> > >> >$ MCR ACCPORNAM_INIT >> > >> >in your system's startup.  >> >8 >> >Then add the following to your system's SYLOGIN.COM: >> >? >> >$ IF "''F$extract(1,2,F$getdvi("TT","DEVNAM"))'" .EQS. "FT"w
 >> >$ THEN" >> >$   DEFINE/USER SYS$OUTPUT NL: >> >$   SHOW DISPLAY/SYMBOLc1 >> >$   MCR ACCPORNAM TT 'DECW$DISPLAY_TRANSPORT'  >> >$ ENDIFe >> > >> >B >> >Do let us know how may programs break when you implement this. >>E >> Forgot to mention that you will need to install ACCPORNAM.EXE withh' >> CMKRNL privie in the system startup.eM >Of course ;-) Hey, until this thread started, I never even knew your programn >was available.e >t6 >There used to be ATG_FT_PATCH on VAX systems as well. > N >But that's not the point. The point is, it should be in the operating system. >g >Which of these two is better?  F Method 2 of course.  Anytime one has to diddle in SDA, it's a plus! :)   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMs            sJ   "And of course, I'm a genius, so people are naturally drawn to my fiery I   intellect.  Their admiration overwhelms their envy!" -- Calvin & Hobbesr   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:40:50 -0000t? From: "Malcolm MacArthur" <malcolmix@neverness.freeserve.co.uk>eR Subject: Re: PTD$SET_ACCPORNAM! Now! (was Re: Suggested enhancement. for DECterm.). Message-ID: <a7b2vh$1h$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>  * <system@SendSpamHere.ORG> wrote in message* news:00A0B3B6.55E29F7B@SendSpamHere.ORG...J > In article <00A0B3B5.C801A508@SendSpamHere.ORG>, system@SendSpamHere.ORG writes:f > {...snip...} > >hE > >Get ACCPORNAM from my ftp site: ftp://www.tmesis.com/ACCPORNAM.ZIPt > >rE > >Build it and install the .EXEs into your system SYS$SYSTEM.  Placev > >line to execute > >  > >$ MCR ACCPORNAM_INITi > >r > >in your system's startup. > >n7 > >Then add the following to your system's SYLOGIN.COM:p > >t> > >$ IF "''F$extract(1,2,F$getdvi("TT","DEVNAM"))'" .EQS. "FT"	 > >$ THENe! > >$   DEFINE/USER SYS$OUTPUT NL:p > >$   SHOW DISPLAY/SYMBOL0 > >$   MCR ACCPORNAM TT 'DECW$DISPLAY_TRANSPORT'
 > >$ ENDIF > >t > >sA > >Do let us know how may programs break when you implement this.t >CD > Forgot to mention that you will need to install ACCPORNAM.EXE with& > CMKRNL privie in the system startup.L Of course ;-) Hey, until this thread started, I never even knew your program was available.  5 There used to be ATG_FT_PATCH on VAX systems as well.   M But that's not the point. The point is, it should be in the operating system.e   Which of these two is better?t  	 Method 1:n   $ show users macarthurm/full7       OpenVMS User Processes at 20-MAR-2002 21:51:09.67h7     Total number of users = 1,  number of processes = 4f  5  Username     Node   Process Name    PID     Terminal D  MACARTHURM   NODE1  MACARTHURM    21A10AB7  MBA3190: (disconnected)3  MACARTHURM   NODE1  _FTA19:       21A1062F  FTA19:1 (TCPIP/192.168.0.1:0.0)o3  MACARTHURM   NODE1  _FTA20:       21A0EB15  FTA20:t (TCPIP/192.168.0.1:0.0)y3  MACARTHURM   NODE1  _FTA21:       21A088D1  FTA21:g (TCPIP/192.168.0.1:0.0)p  
 Or method 2?:t $ show users macarthurm/full7       OpenVMS User Processes at 20-MAR-2002 21:51:09.67e7     Total number of users = 1,  number of processes = 4   5  Username     Node   Process Name    PID     Terminal D  MACARTHURM   NODE1  MACARTHURM    21A10AB7  MBA3190: (disconnected)3  MACARTHURM   NODE1  _FTA19:       21A1062F  FTA19:.3  MACARTHURM   NODE1  _FTA20:       21A0EB15  FTA20: 3  MACARTHURM   NODE1  _FTA21:       21A088D1  FTA21:     ) $ pipe show sys | search sys$pipe decw$te M 21A1022E DECW$TE_022E    LEF      5    45924   0 00:00:06.66      2748   1600 M 21A0030F DECW$TE_030F    LEF      6      556   0 00:00:54.75       754    812 7 $! Use analyze /system to check each process in turn...  $ analyze /systeme  " OpenVMS (TM) Alpha system analyzer   SDA> sh proc /id=21A1022E /chan.  A Process index: 002E   Name: DECW$TE_022E   Extended PID: 21A1022E A -----------------------------------------------------------------:    3                             Process active channels.3                             -----------------------u  < Channel  Window           Status        Device/file accessed< -------  ------           ------        --------------------0   0010  00000000                        $1$DKA1:   0020  813896C0( $1$DKA200:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]DECW$TERMIN AL.EXE;1 (section file)u   0030  811DD980( $1$DKA200:[VMS$COMMON.SYSLIB]SECURESHRP. EXE;1 (section file)   0040  811DE400( $1$DKA200:[VMS$COMMON.SYSLIB]PTD$SERVICE S_SHR.EXE;1 (section file)N   0050  811EAF80                        $1$DKA200:[VMS$COMMON.SYSEXE]DCL.EXE;1 (b
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Their admiration overwhelms their envy!" -- Calvin & Hobbesy >o   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:08:43 GMT_' From: Don Sykes <anonymous@pacbell.net> " Subject: Re: Right down the middle+ Message-ID: <3C98DE8F.B3CCF96C@pacbell.net>-   David Mathog wrote:- > O > It's always odd when a vote turns out very near 50/50.  The usual reaons thatn > happens are: > K > 1.  There were two great candidates and the voters can't decide which oneD8 > they want more.  (Exceedingly rare, in my experience.) > O > 2.  The choices are equally bad so the voters can't figure out which one theyg > dislike more.e > R > 3.  It's impossible to make an accurate assessment of the relative merits of the > two choices. > (So everybody flips a coin.) >  > 4.  Pure coincidence.  > R > In the current HP/Compaq collision there seems to be elements of scenarios 2, 3, > and 4 at work.L > Interesting how in the final analysis people voting their own money (small > shareholders,tP > retirement funds, the two families) came out largely against and people voting > othertM > peoples money (the big investment funds) largely came out for.  And the twos > balanced each othern > out almost exactly.   N Excellent point. I wonder if the fund managers cast a yes vote with the shares they own personally?  M What annoys me most about this merger deal is the CEOs of both these enormous O companies with billions in sales and tons of resources saying, in essence, that L they must merge to avoid collapse. What kind of CEO can't make a profit withL assets like they each have? Answer, only completely inept ones, or ones thatF care only about lining their own wallets, then bailing out with golden3 parachutes, just before the stocks take a big dive.:     > O > Unintentionally Carly ran a referendum on herself.  The one clear result from  > this voteIO > was that the HP employees hated it (2:1 against it in the employee retirementR > plan and theQ > polls by Hewlett). I've not seen the numbers for Compaq, but it's probably safe  > to sayM > that with the axe swinging in their direction Compaq employees hate it evenc > more. All ofN > this bodes very ill for the post merger work environment.  As if working for > Carly, Curly,nG > and Winkler wasn't already a big enough triple curse for any company!. > 
 > Regards, >  > David Mathog > mathog@caltech.edu     -- n   Have VMS. Will Travel. Wire Paladin @alphase.com 
 San Franciscor   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2002 14:18:45 -08001 From: glenmark@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu (Glen Martin)%0 Subject: Strange status returned by sys$create()= Message-ID: <6e2f14f4.0203201418.7819d140@posting.google.com>   A For some reason, my calls to sys$create are returning a status of E -32759 (%xFFFF8009), which as far as I can tell doesn't correspond to:F any of the defined RMS return values. Any clues what this means (or amF I again overlooking something incredibly obvious)? (relevant code snip follows)   <begin snip> struct FAB logfab; struct RAB lograb;   short int status;> char logfile[]="test.log";  F /* Open the log file with sys$create(). Have the FAB$V_CIF (create-if)C  * bit of the FOP (File-Processing Options) field of the FAB set sotD  * that the file will be created if it does not exist. If it exists,B  * the existing file will be opened. Need to open with PUT sharing  * enabled (FAB$V_SHRPUT).  */N  B logfab           = cc$rms_fab;      /* initialize fab structure */B logfab.fab$b_fac = FAB$M_PUT;       /* Facility: PUT            */B logfab.fab$l_fna = logfile;         /* Name                     */# logfab.fab$b_fns = sizeof(logfile);uB logfab.fab$b_org = FAB$C_SEQ;       /* file org sequential      */B logfab.fab$b_rat = FAB$M_CR;        /* rec attrib. CR           */B logfab.fab$b_shr = FAB$M_SHRPUT;    /* Shared/writable          */B logfab.fab$l_xab = 0;               /* No Extended attrib.      */E logfab.fab$l_fop = FAB$V_SQO | FAB$V_TEF | FAB$V_CIF; /* Create-If */oB logfab.fab$b_rfm = FAB$C_FIX;       /* Fix-length records       */B logfab.fab$w_mrs = 512;             /* Max Record Size          */  B lograb           = cc$rms_rab;      /* initialize rab structure */B lograb.rab$l_fab = &logfab;         /* Connect RAB to FAB       */B lograb.rab$l_rop = RAB$V_EOF;       /* Position at EOF          */  ! status=sys$create(&logfab, 0, 0);o8 if ( status != RMS$_NORMAL && status != RMS$_CREATED)  {+    printf("sys$create() error = %08X, stv =g! %08X\n",status,logfab.fab$l_stv);e    return status;E    }
 <end snip>$ Here, the printf() statement prints:- sys$create() error = FFFF8009, stv = 00000000e  ) However, exit %xFFFF8009 returns zilch...    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 18:07:12 -0500w1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>a4 Subject: Re: Strange status returned by sys$create()2 Message-ID: <3C991620.809E61CF@firstdbasource.com>   does it create the file?     Glen Martin wrote: > C > For some reason, my calls to sys$create are returning a status ofnG > -32759 (%xFFFF8009), which as far as I can tell doesn't correspond tosH > any of the defined RMS return values. Any clues what this means (or amH > I again overlooking something incredibly obvious)? (relevant code snip
 > follows) >  > <begin snip> > struct FAB logfab; > struct RAB lograb; >  > short int status;  > char logfile[]="test.log"; > H > /* Open the log file with sys$create(). Have the FAB$V_CIF (create-if)E >  * bit of the FOP (File-Processing Options) field of the FAB set soaF >  * that the file will be created if it does not exist. If it exists,D >  * the existing file will be opened. Need to open with PUT sharing >  * enabled (FAB$V_SHRPUT). >  */S > D > logfab           = cc$rms_fab;      /* initialize fab structure */D > logfab.fab$b_fac = FAB$M_PUT;       /* Facility: PUT            */D > logfab.fab$l_fna = logfile;         /* Name                     */% > logfab.fab$b_fns = sizeof(logfile);oD > logfab.fab$b_org = FAB$C_SEQ;       /* file org sequential      */D > logfab.fab$b_rat = FAB$M_CR;        /* rec attrib. CR           */D > logfab.fab$b_shr = FAB$M_SHRPUT;    /* Shared/writable          */D > logfab.fab$l_xab = 0;               /* No Extended attrib.      */G > logfab.fab$l_fop = FAB$V_SQO | FAB$V_TEF | FAB$V_CIF; /* Create-If */5D > logfab.fab$b_rfm = FAB$C_FIX;       /* Fix-length records       */D > logfab.fab$w_mrs = 512;             /* Max Record Size          */ > D > lograb           = cc$rms_rab;      /* initialize rab structure */D > lograb.rab$l_fab = &logfab;         /* Connect RAB to FAB       */D > lograb.rab$l_rop = RAB$V_EOF;       /* Position at EOF          */ > # > status=sys$create(&logfab, 0, 0);S: > if ( status != RMS$_NORMAL && status != RMS$_CREATED)  {- >    printf("sys$create() error = %08X, stv =S# > %08X\n",status,logfab.fab$l_stv);B >    return status;M >    } > <end snip>& > Here, the printf() statement prints:/ > sys$create() error = FFFF8009, stv = 00000000t > + > However, exit %xFFFF8009 returns zilch...l   -- R Regards,  7 Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163n7 First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.comI Sr. Consultant 704-947-1089 (Office)r 704-236-4377 (Mobile)o   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:41:37 GMTw+ From: Ryan Moore <rmoore@rmoore.dyndns.org>-4 Subject: Re: Strange status returned by sys$create()< Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0203201536360.2131-100000@jaipur>  % My comments point out the problems...n  " On 20 Mar 2002, Glen Martin wrote:C > For some reason, my calls to sys$create are returning a status of4G > -32759 (%xFFFF8009), which as far as I can tell doesn't correspond to>H > any of the defined RMS return values. Any clues what this means (or amH > I again overlooking something incredibly obvious)? (relevant code snip
 > follows) >m > <begin snip> > struct FAB logfab; > struct RAB lograb; >C > short int status;i  < status should be a 32-bit integer.  'int'.  not 'short int'.     > char logfile[]="test.log"; >$H > /* Open the log file with sys$create(). Have the FAB$V_CIF (create-if)E >  * bit of the FOP (File-Processing Options) field of the FAB set sooF >  * that the file will be created if it does not exist. If it exists,D >  * the existing file will be opened. Need to open with PUT sharing >  * enabled (FAB$V_SHRPUT). >  */> > D > logfab           = cc$rms_fab;      /* initialize fab structure */D > logfab.fab$b_fac = FAB$M_PUT;       /* Facility: PUT            */D > logfab.fab$l_fna = logfile;         /* Name                     */% > logfab.fab$b_fns = sizeof(logfile);t  ? strlen() is more accurate here.  I think sizeof() might get youn+ off-by-one because of the NULL-termination.e  D > logfab.fab$b_org = FAB$C_SEQ;       /* file org sequential      */D > logfab.fab$b_rat = FAB$M_CR;        /* rec attrib. CR           */D > logfab.fab$b_shr = FAB$M_SHRPUT;    /* Shared/writable          */D > logfab.fab$l_xab = 0;               /* No Extended attrib.      */G > logfab.fab$l_fop = FAB$V_SQO | FAB$V_TEF | FAB$V_CIF; /* Create-If */    Incorrect... should be:o  E logfab.fab$l_fop = FAB$M_SQO | FAB$M_TEF | FAB$M_CIF; /* Create-If */w  D > logfab.fab$b_rfm = FAB$C_FIX;       /* Fix-length records       */D > logfab.fab$w_mrs = 512;             /* Max Record Size          */ >lD > lograb           = cc$rms_rab;      /* initialize rab structure */D > lograb.rab$l_fab = &logfab;         /* Connect RAB to FAB       */D > lograb.rab$l_rop = RAB$V_EOF;       /* Position at EOF          */   Incorrect... should be:S  B lograb.rab$l_rop = RAB$M_EOF;       /* Position at EOF          */    # > status=sys$create(&logfab, 0, 0);.: > if ( status != RMS$_NORMAL && status != RMS$_CREATED)  {- >    printf("sys$create() error = %08X, stv =n# > %08X\n",status,logfab.fab$l_stv);S >    return status;  >    } > <end snip>& > Here, the printf() statement prints:/ > sys$create() error = FFFF8009, stv = 00000000l >n+ > However, exit %xFFFF8009 returns zilch...I >'  C Except that status was defined as a 16-bit integer.  So I think the I compiler is converting the return value if sys$create() which is a 32-bitN1 int into a 16-bit by hacking off the top 16 bits.    -Ryan    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 19:12:21 -0500t  From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com>4 Subject: Re: Strange status returned by sys$create()6 Message-ID: <1020320190535.17725A-100000@Ives.egh.com>  " On 20 Mar 2002, Glen Martin wrote:  C > For some reason, my calls to sys$create are returning a status of G > -32759 (%xFFFF8009), which as far as I can tell doesn't correspond tot  3 RMS statuses (statii?) are %x00018000 to %x00018FFF   H > any of the defined RMS return values. Any clues what this means (or amH > I again overlooking something incredibly obvious)? (relevant code snip
 > follows) >  > <begin snip> > struct FAB logfab; > struct RAB lograb; >  > short int status;A   status is a longword...R   > char logfile[]="test.log"; > H > /* Open the log file with sys$create(). Have the FAB$V_CIF (create-if)E >  * bit of the FOP (File-Processing Options) field of the FAB set so:F >  * that the file will be created if it does not exist. If it exists,D >  * the existing file will be opened. Need to open with PUT sharing >  * enabled (FAB$V_SHRPUT). >  */s > D > logfab           = cc$rms_fab;      /* initialize fab structure */D > logfab.fab$b_fac = FAB$M_PUT;       /* Facility: PUT            */D > logfab.fab$l_fna = logfile;         /* Name                     */% > logfab.fab$b_fns = sizeof(logfile);2D > logfab.fab$b_org = FAB$C_SEQ;       /* file org sequential      */D > logfab.fab$b_rat = FAB$M_CR;        /* rec attrib. CR           */D > logfab.fab$b_shr = FAB$M_SHRPUT;    /* Shared/writable          */D > logfab.fab$l_xab = 0;               /* No Extended attrib.      */G > logfab.fab$l_fop = FAB$V_SQO | FAB$V_TEF | FAB$V_CIF; /* Create-If */e  ? You are using bit offsets, not bit masks for the FOP options...2   You should use  E logfab.fab$l_fop = FAB$M_SQO | FAB$M_TEF | FAB$M_CIF; /* Create-If */-  D > logfab.fab$b_rfm = FAB$C_FIX;       /* Fix-length records       */D > logfab.fab$w_mrs = 512;             /* Max Record Size          */ > D > lograb           = cc$rms_rab;      /* initialize rab structure */D > lograb.rab$l_fab = &logfab;         /* Connect RAB to FAB       */D > lograb.rab$l_rop = RAB$V_EOF;       /* Position at EOF          */ > # > status=sys$create(&logfab, 0, 0);E: > if ( status != RMS$_NORMAL && status != RMS$_CREATED)  {- >    printf("sys$create() error = %08X, stv =f# > %08X\n",status,logfab.fab$l_stv);S >    return status;R >    } > <end snip>& > Here, the printf() statement prints:/ > sys$create() error = FFFF8009, stv = 000000001 > + > However, exit %xFFFF8009 returns zilch...: >  >   % exit status %x00018009 corresponds toe;  "%RMS-S-PENDING, asynchronous operation not yet completed"0  > You are probably accidently setting the asynch bit in the FOP.   Hope this helps.     --   John SantosT Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2002 21:24:15 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)-4 Subject: Re: Strange status returned by sys$create()3 Message-ID: <psz6JslPNmqV@eisner.encompasserve.org>B  Y In article <1020320190535.17725A-100000@Ives.egh.com>, John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> writes:c$ > On 20 Mar 2002, Glen Martin wrote: > D >> For some reason, my calls to sys$create are returning a status ofH >> -32759 (%xFFFF8009), which as far as I can tell doesn't correspond to  E %xFFFF8009 seems to be the code for "wrong compiler" as I read John's0$ analysis.  See my comment(s?) below.  5 > RMS statuses (statii?) are %x00018000 to %x00018FFF0 > I >> any of the defined RMS return values. Any clues what this means (or am0I >> I again overlooking something incredibly obvious)? (relevant code snipt >> follows)  >> r >> <begin snip>r >> struct FAB logfab;e >> struct RAB lograb;_ >>   >> short int status; >  > status is a longword...-  + The compiler would have caught that in Ada.e  H >> logfab.fab$l_fop = FAB$V_SQO | FAB$V_TEF | FAB$V_CIF; /* Create-If */ > A > You are using bit offsets, not bit masks for the FOP options...V  + The compiler would have caught that in Ada.o  ' > exit status %x00018009 corresponds toC= >  "%RMS-S-PENDING, asynchronous operation not yet completed"1 > @ > You are probably accidently setting the asynch bit in the FOP.  + The compiler would have caught that in Ada..   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2002 16:00:28 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris)l$ Subject: Re: Talk about downtime....= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0203201600.211b3d40@posting.google.com>   ] "Mark E. Levy" <mlevy70@attbi.com> wrote in message news:<_P%l8.75148$af7.49868@rwcrnsc53>...0L > Weren't the movers insured for any damage they might have caused? It wouldK > seem that if the machine was working before the move and there was damage 7 > that required repair afterward, they would be liable.-  E One would think so.  The difficult part is proving the movers did it, F if they're not willing to admit to anything.  Basically, if there's noE obvious external evidence of an accident at the time the equipment isiD received and signed for, it becomes very hard to prove how and where it got damaged.)  F As it turned out, the poor customer employee who had been told to swapF a memory board in that system for one of another size at the same timeC as the move (since the system was going to be down anyway), got theDB blame dumped on him for warping the backplane and got a reprimand,F even though it was probably physically impossible for him to have doneB that amount of damage simply inserting or removing a single board,C something he'd had to do many times before during the earlier years  when they did self-maintenance.0  F My point was that with a DECmove, DEC folks (or their sub-contractors)= would have been doing all the work, and there wouldn't be any B finger-pointing possible if something went wrong; DEC would simply have had to fix it.-. ----------------------------------------------. Keith Parris | parris at encompasserve dot org   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 09:10:38 +1100e* From: "Dale King" <dalek@forpresident.com> Subject: Re: telnetqueue' Message-ID: <a7b1cu$5qo$1@lore.csc.com>a  P You could create a local LPD queue in TCPIP pointing to this local printer, thenK set up your NT machine to print to a "unix" printer, specifying your VMS IP  address and printername.  M Alternatively, if you are adding a local LPD queue you might as well make the K queue below an LPD queue (and delete the telnetsym version).  Then add bothtP local and remote definitions for the printer in you TCPIP$LPD_PRINTCAP (assuming% of course your printer supports LPD).e   Regards, Dale  9 "Carlo Mussche" <cmussche@volvocars.com> wrote in messages6 news:ab891bd3.0203200945.b8394ac@posting.google.com...8 > Suppose I have defined on my vms machine a telnetqueue > C > INIT /QUEUE/PROCESSOR=TCPIP$TELNETSYM/ON=xxx::"<ip-address>:9100"t > /start xxx_QUEUE >tB > How can I print correctly to that queue from for example a nt-pc   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 02:18:36 GMTi  From: cjt <cheljuba@prodigy.net>' Subject: Re: Too close to call says BBC + Message-ID: <3C994331.927C9431@prodigy.net>    Bob Ceculski wrote:  > c > JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:<3C98314A.F8FA5E3C@videotron.ca>...n > > Bill Todd wrote:Q > > > Typical Carlyese.  The HP shareholders indeed made a choice today (whatever L > > > it turns out to have been), but to all appearances by the narrowest ofL > > > margins rather than any kind of 'embrace' (let alone outright charge). > >aM > > Not sure if it was Carly or someone else who said it, but I heard that HPy8 > > really need only 50% + 1 vote to declare this a win. > >e: > > If Carly gets 50%+1 , can she really declare victory ? > >fO > > She may be able to legally go ahead with the takeover, but she will have tomN > > take into consideration that half of the votes are against her, but if oneM > > shareholder does switch against carly, then a vote of no-confidence wouldl  > > succeed in throwing her out. > >sO > > I don't really know what drove Carly to want to buy a sick Compaq, but I dohO > > have to admire her guts to really put her job on the line for something shelP > > believes in. If this takeover doesn't work out as she predicted, she will be, > > out faster than Pfeiffer was kicked out. > J > what drove her to buy Q is that only their printer line makes money, theJ > server/OS end is losing money ... they hope Alpha/Itanium VMS unix linuxK > and the 4 billion vms makes in revenues will change that so that they canr= > spin off the printer end and have a viable services end ...n  D Doesn't she get to split $100 million with Curly if it goes through?   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2002 12:40:23 -08001 From: asytnyk@mcscns.cc.telcordia.com (A. Sytnyk)i4 Subject: Unable to receive Internet mail on VMS node= Message-ID: <89b6afcc.0203201240.2b87eaff@posting.google.com>m  O Greetings.  I have a single-node MVAX 4000 cluster running VMS 7.1 and UCX 4.2.   I I've had some peculiar problems with Internet mail in this configuration, 0 but until recently it has worked tolerably well.   Out mail goes out fine:  Incoming dies:B Must be a configuration issue - Any hints to debug this situation!  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  20-MAR-2002 15:07:47.93  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on MYCP01D INTERnet ACP SMTP Accept Request from Host: 128.96.20.32 Port: 41362  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  20-MAR-2002 15:07:49.06  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on MYCP016 INTERnet ACP detected UCX$SMTP exiting before 'socket'  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  20-MAR-2002 15:07:49.07  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on MYCP01F INTERnet ACP AUXS error during process exit  Status = %CLI-E-NOCMDPROC   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:15:40 +0100b- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@free.fr>e8 Subject: Re: Unable to receive Internet mail on VMS node' Message-ID: <3C98FBFB.FCDB4636@free.fr>=   easy:O  M Either you (or someone else) has changed the protection (or the owner) of the*I sylogin.com, or of the SMTP account login.com, or deleted it, or moved orcO whatever action was recently performed on any .COM file triggered when the SMTPu server starts.  L I had this bug. The Status = %CLI-E-NOCMDPROC message means that the processI cannot start any of the mandatory command procedures it needs to execute.a  < Check and come back here in case my memory is decreasing :-)   D.     "A. Sytnyk" wrote: > Q > Greetings.  I have a single-node MVAX 4000 cluster running VMS 7.1 and UCX 4.2.d > K > I've had some peculiar problems with Internet mail in this configuration,=2 > but until recently it has worked tolerably well. >  > Out mail goes out fine:- > Incoming dies:D > Must be a configuration issue - Any hints to debug this situation! > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  20-MAR-2002 15:07:47.93  %%%%%%%%%%%& > Message from user INTERnet on MYCP01F > INTERnet ACP SMTP Accept Request from Host: 128.96.20.32 Port: 41362 > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  20-MAR-2002 15:07:49.06  %%%%%%%%%%%& > Message from user INTERnet on MYCP018 > INTERnet ACP detected UCX$SMTP exiting before 'socket' > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  20-MAR-2002 15:07:49.07  %%%%%%%%%%%& > Message from user INTERnet on MYCP01H > INTERnet ACP AUXS error during process exit  Status = %CLI-E-NOCMDPROC   --  H   ----------------------------------------------------------------------H MORANDI Consultants  -  WEB: http://Didier.Morandi.Free.fr/index_us.htmlH Pflanzschulstrasse 53, 8004 Zurich, Switzerland. GSM: +41 (0)79 705 4670H 19, chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France.  GSM: +33 (0)6 7983 6418  H Disaster Recovery Plans, Computer Security Audits, DEC OpenVMS ExpertiseH On parle franais Man spricht Deutsch se habla Castellano English spoken   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:55:34 +0000 (UTC)t* From: bleau@umtof.umd.edu (Lawrence Bleau)/ Subject: Re: Why does ERRFMT give me RSZ error? 0 Message-ID: <a7b416$j66$1@grapevine.wam.umd.edu>  f In article <3C7E674F.FA4F7F86@clarityconnect.com>, "Mark D. Jilson" <jilly@clarityconnect.com> writes:F >This can happen for 1 of 2 reasons but both relate to a 'corrupt' EMBI >record.  When ERRFMT starts it will attempt to process the EMBs that aretC >stored in the system dump file (for newer versions of VMS on Alpha F >SYS$ERRLOG.DMP) and any EMBs that are in memory and write them to theB >system errlog file.  If one of these EMBs are 'corrupt' then thisF >situation may occur.  The way to clear it is to either force a systemE >crash to rewrite the EMBs in the dump file or to create a new systemBE >dump file and reboot.  This situation is documented in DSNlink and aEG >future version of VMS will be able to workaround the issue without the=( >impact that current workarounds impose.   Mark,i  L Thank you for the suggestion.  It worked.  I waited until no one else was onM the system, no batch jobs running, etc.  I dismounted all disks, hit the HALT:N button, booted, and ERRFMT started up without errors and has stayed that way.  Wierd problem!  Great solution!a   Lawrence Bleau University of Maryland" Physics Dept., Space Physics Group 301-405-6223 bleau@umtof.umd.eduu   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Mar 2002 16:15:50 -0800( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)F Subject: Windoze and linux bugs abound ... "unhackable" VMS untouched!= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0203201615.3aeae22f@posting.google.com>   9 better get started on your weekly patching of your 80,000 6 windoze servers and clients all you windoze lovers .../ here is this weeks latest to get to work on ...l  9 Microsoft issues second bulletin on Windows vulnerability0     By BRIAN SULLIVAN  (March 20, 2002) rB Microsoft Corp. issued its second bulletin in two weeks to WindowsE business users warning of a vulnerability to the Java Virtual Machine( code.t   ADVERTISEMENT   F The new warning says that an attacker could place a Java applet on theF victim's machine that would allow the attacker to perform any task the! victim was authorized to perform."    D "This could potentially include adding, changing or deleting data or/ configuration information," the bulletin warns.i    C This is the second bulletin Microsoft has issued since March 4. Thei@ first warning told users that an attacker could redirect all Web? traffic from a machine by placing a Java applet on the victim'sTC computer. That warning also said the attacker would be able to knowaC where a victim was surfing on the Web, what actions the victim tookT? and potentially capture the victim's passwords and other secure  information.    A According to the bulletin, both vulnerabilities affect only thosetD users who access the Web via proxy servers, which means the problems8 will affect businesses but probably not home users. Both2 vulnerabilities are rated "critical" by Microsoft.    F Microsoft said an update the company released March 4 should take care of both problems.e   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2002 00:56:32 GMTd1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>|3 Subject: Re: Witch streamer supported vax-4000-90 ?.' Message-ID: <3C9931E4.55CEE80F@fsi.net>M   Carl Perkins wrote:M > 7 > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes... G > }....which raises the question: is/was there a QIC format program for*K > }whatever tapes the TZK10 uses (I have exactly one, and that has a backupi4 > }of SCO UNIX on it)? Does that program run on VMS? > }--  > }David J. Dachtera > 7 > Have you completely forgotten the INITIALIZE command?   : INITIALIZE is not "format" and "format" is not INITIALIZE.  G If that were the case, and VMS worked with QIC-80, Travan, etc. drives,eD INITIALIZE would likely timeout long before the 3+ hours it takes to' format a TR-1 or better tape cartridge.o  7 Did you ever try to INITIALIZE an unformatted diskette?   ! Try thinking of it in UN*X terms:>  4 (fd)format is not mkfs, and mkfs is not (fd)format.   B INITIALIZE equates (a bit roughly) to UN*X-land "mkfs", or DOS/Win "'quick' format".   D QIC tapes have a "format" written on them similar to the soft sector9 marks on diskettes. This is unlike 9-track and DLT tapes.c  A To my knolwedge, outside of low-level formatters included in some C MicroVAX console firmware, I am not aware of any VMS or VMS-related:H equivalents to the UN*X or DOS "format" ("long" format on DOS) commands,E and certainly nothing equivalent to various proprietary products thate will format QIC tapes and such.n   --   David J. Dachterae dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/o   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:05:03 +0100n- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@free.fr>h6 Subject: Re: [Q]: Setting SCSI Cluster host SCIS ID's?' Message-ID: <3C98F97F.5837F5D7@free.fr>   J I have (had) the same config, but with two PWS600au. The CD-ROM drives areL generally at address 4. You should change the other one to 3 or 5, and avoidF using this number for an external disk in the BA350 or whatever it is.  P Anyway, when you wish to share two SCSI buses together with a BA, you definitelyO need to change your BA 3xx personality module to a special module which does...iO gosh, I do not remember the name, dynamic SCSI something. To do that, you need:P  E 1. a special personality module with two flat SCSI plugs in the front H 2. a SCSI internal controller doing dynamic SCSI allocation in station A 3. the same module in station Bg  P both boxes should have internal terminators disabled and use a T SCSI connector.  N I did, it worked fine. This allows each box to keep its SCSI addresses withoutN mix with the other box addresses, and it also allows the BA to have (7 - box AP address - box B address), i.e. 5 addresses free (generally 1 to 5). Address 0 isP the personality module, address 6 will be the PKA6 system id for box A and 7 the PKA7 id for box B.  K I started a paper on this for the next VMS FAQ update, but had no chance to H terminate it as I sold one of the boxes... (to a swiss c.o.v. reader :-)  S Ask me if you want to know more on this. I spent nights to make it work and it did.   S Well, I remember now, the name is "differential SCSI controller" for the two boxes.   
 Good luck.   D.   "Kenneth H. Fairfield" wrote:/ >  > sms@antinode.org wrote:  > Q > > From: "Kenneth H. Fairfield" <Kenneth.H.Fairfield@spam-be-gone.intel.com.net>o> > > > So...does anyone know how to set/change the host SCSI ID< > > > on an AlphaStation 200?  I didn't _notice_ any console > > > variable.  [...] > > , > >    I vote for "pka0_host_id".  Mine's 7. > A > Bingo!  That did it, Steven. :-)  The cluster is up and running)5 > (again) with the host controllers at SCSI ID 6 & 7.v > ? > Thanks to the others who posted as well.  Like I said before, = > I inherited this cluster and the User Manual isn't anywheres8 > near thorough enough...and with no hard-copy device toD > look at the console output, I (easily) missed the pkao* variables. > < > FYI, these two Alpha Station 200s are using their internal7 > SCSI adapters, NCR 810's they say at the console.  Atr; > least one system's CD is on the single, shared, SCSI bus.a7 > I didn't open up the second system to see whether itse0 > CD had been disconnected (it does have power). >  > -Ken > --8 > I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me... >  > Ken Fairfields# > F20 Automation VMS System Supportt > kenneth.h.fairfield#intel.coml   -- yH   ----------------------------------------------------------------------H MORANDI Consultants  -  WEB: http://Didier.Morandi.Free.fr/index_us.htmlH Pflanzschulstrasse 53, 8004 Zurich, Switzerland. GSM: +41 (0)79 705 4670H 19, chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France.  GSM: +33 (0)6 7983 6418  I Disaster Recovery Plans, Computer Security Audits, HP ClosedVMS ExpertiseeH On parle franais Man spricht Deutsch se habla Castellano English spoken   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 22:32:31 +0100>- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@free.fr>g6 Subject: Re: [Q]: Setting SCSI Cluster host SCIS ID's?' Message-ID: <3C98FFF0.E32B05F7@free.fr>$  M The personality module to put into the BA3xx is SWXA2-BA with a two thin SCSIs" female plugs set labelled H885-AA.   D.   Didier Morandi wrote:A > L > I have (had) the same config, but with two PWS600au. The CD-ROM drives areN > generally at address 4. You should change the other one to 3 or 5, and avoidH > using this number for an external disk in the BA350 or whatever it is. > R > Anyway, when you wish to share two SCSI buses together with a BA, you definitelyQ > need to change your BA 3xx personality module to a special module which does...1Q > gosh, I do not remember the name, dynamic SCSI something. To do that, you need:> > G > 1. a special personality module with two flat SCSI plugs in the frontoJ > 2. a SCSI internal controller doing dynamic SCSI allocation in station A! > 3. the same module in station B  > R > both boxes should have internal terminators disabled and use a T SCSI connector. > P > I did, it worked fine. This allows each box to keep its SCSI addresses withoutP > mix with the other box addresses, and it also allows the BA to have (7 - box AR > address - box B address), i.e. 5 addresses free (generally 1 to 5). Address 0 isR > the personality module, address 6 will be the PKA6 system id for box A and 7 the > PKA7 id for box B. > M > I started a paper on this for the next VMS FAQ update, but had no chance tomJ > terminate it as I sold one of the boxes... (to a swiss c.o.v. reader :-) > U > Ask me if you want to know more on this. I spent nights to make it work and it did.o > U > Well, I remember now, the name is "differential SCSI controller" for the two boxes.  >  > Good luck. >  > D. >  > "Kenneth H. Fairfield" wrote:o > >r > > sms@antinode.org wrote:t > >iS > > > From: "Kenneth H. Fairfield" <Kenneth.H.Fairfield@spam-be-gone.intel.com.net>t@ > > > > So...does anyone know how to set/change the host SCSI ID> > > > > on an AlphaStation 200?  I didn't _notice_ any console > > > > variable.  [...] > > > . > > >    I vote for "pka0_host_id".  Mine's 7. > > C > > Bingo!  That did it, Steven. :-)  The cluster is up and running-7 > > (again) with the host controllers at SCSI ID 6 & 7.l > >gA > > Thanks to the others who posted as well.  Like I said before,a? > > I inherited this cluster and the User Manual isn't anywherei: > > near thorough enough...and with no hard-copy device toF > > look at the console output, I (easily) missed the pkao* variables. > >r> > > FYI, these two Alpha Station 200s are using their internal9 > > SCSI adapters, NCR 810's they say at the console.  At = > > least one system's CD is on the single, shared, SCSI bus.e9 > > I didn't open up the second system to see whether itsu2 > > CD had been disconnected (it does have power). > >  > > -Ken > > --: > > I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me... > >2 > > Ken Fairfields% > > F20 Automation VMS System Supportf! > > kenneth.h.fairfield#intel.come >  > --J >   ----------------------------------------------------------------------J > MORANDI Consultants  -  WEB: http://Didier.Morandi.Free.fr/index_us.htmlJ > Pflanzschulstrasse 53, 8004 Zurich, Switzerland. GSM: +41 (0)79 705 4670J > 19, chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France.  GSM: +33 (0)6 7983 6418 > K > Disaster Recovery Plans, Computer Security Audits, HP ClosedVMS ExpertiseFJ > On parle franais Man spricht Deutsch se habla Castellano English spoken   -- oH   ----------------------------------------------------------------------H MORANDI Consultants  -  WEB: http://Didier.Morandi.Free.fr/index_us.htmlH Pflanzschulstrasse 53, 8004 Zurich, Switzerland. GSM: +41 (0)79 705 4670H 19, chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France.  GSM: +33 (0)6 7983 6418  H Disaster Recovery Plans, Computer Security Audits, DEC OpenVMS ExpertiseH On parle franais Man spricht Deutsch se habla Castellano English spoken   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 23:46:33 GMTl+ From: Jeff Campbell <jcampbell@ins-msi.com>a6 Subject: Re: [Q]: Setting SCSI Cluster host SCIS ID's?+ Message-ID: <3C9915CC.B68E1691@ins-msi.com>e   "Kenneth H. Fairfield" wrote:  >  > sms@antinode.org wrote:  > Q > > From: "Kenneth H. Fairfield" <Kenneth.H.Fairfield@spam-be-gone.intel.com.net>t> > > > So...does anyone know how to set/change the host SCSI ID< > > > on an AlphaStation 200?  I didn't _notice_ any console > > > variable.  [...] > >', > >    I vote for "pka0_host_id".  Mine's 7. > A > Bingo!  That did it, Steven. :-)  The cluster is up and running 5 > (again) with the host controllers at SCSI ID 6 & 7.v > ? > Thanks to the others who posted as well.  Like I said before, = > I inherited this cluster and the User Manual isn't anywhereh8 > near thorough enough...and with no hard-copy device toD > look at the console output, I (easily) missed the pkao* variables.    ? The "Digital AlphaStationTM 200 Series User Information" manualrC might not have helped you. The only SCSI SRM environmental variablek< it refers to is PKA0_FAST. The only other SCSI configurationA information in it relates to the MLB jumper that enables/disablesi? automatic SCSI termination when the external SCSI port is used.U  = If you already knew about the PK* SRM variables the PKA0_FAST ) reference might have tweaked your memory.      > < > FYI, these two Alpha Station 200s are using their internal7 > SCSI adapters, NCR 810's they say at the console.  At ; > least one system's CD is on the single, shared, SCSI bus.%7 > I didn't open up the second system to see whether itsA0 > CD had been disconnected (it does have power). >  > -Ken > --8 > I don't speak for Intel, Intel doesn't speak for me... >  > Ken Fairfieldo# > F20 Automation VMS System SupportM > kenneth.h.fairfield#intel.com%  
 Jeff Campbell0 n8wxs@arrl.net   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.157 ************************