1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 31 Mar 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 177       Contents: Re: Alphaserver 1000 4/200 Re: Alphaserver 1000 4/200 Re: Alphaserver 1000 4/200 Re: Blade architectures  Re: Blade architectures  Re: Blade architectures  Re: Commnets on Mozilla9.9 Re: Commnets on Mozilla9.9 Re: Commnets on Mozilla9.9 Re: Commnets on Mozilla9.9- computer keyboards, workstation keyboards etc ? DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things C RE: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things C Re: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things  DECC$RTLDEF.TLB question RE: DECC$RTLDEF.TLB question) Re: EMC / Symmetrix information requested * Re: Help! VT100 emulators - some problems. Re: Macro-64 and Vax VMS RE: Macro-64 and Vax VMS Re: Obituary for a Cyber" Re: OpenVMS and Xerox DocuPrint 658 Re: Sending Wake-up Message from NT to OpenVMS batch jobN Re: Slow Mozilla was(RE: Viability of a Commercial ISO-9960 formatter for VMS)8 Re: Why do I get an ASTFLT with following use of ualarm?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 12:19:35 -0700  From: Kevin Handy <kth@srv.net> # Subject: Re: Alphaserver 1000 4/200 & Message-ID: <3CA60FC7.8050200@srv.net>   Fabio Cardoso wrote: > David  >  > I will check the CDROM.... >  >  > My >>> SHOW DEVICE shows me  >  > DKA400  7 Is your CD and hard drive jumpered to the same SCSI ID? 8 They need to be seperate (I usually see the CD set at 4, and the hard drive as 0 or 2) * Doesn't SHOW DEVICE show any actual names?   > DVA0   Floppy disk.   > EWA0   Network    > PKA0 > PKB0   SCSI Controllers   >  > just these devices  !!!! >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 21:28:59 +0100 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> # Subject: Re: Alphaserver 1000 4/200 ' Message-ID: <3CA6200B.71EEEE26@aaa.com>    Kevin Handy wrote: >  > Fabio Cardoso wrote:	 > > David  > >  > > I will check the CDROM.... > >  > >  > > My >>> SHOW DEVICE shows me  > > 
 > > DKA400 > 9 > Is your CD and hard drive jumpered to the same SCSI ID? : > They need to be seperate (I usually see the CD set at 4, > and the hard drive as 0 or 2) , > Doesn't SHOW DEVICE show any actual names? >   ? In the AS 1000 series of servers, the SCSI address of any disks @ in the internal disk shelf is hard wired in the shelf backplane.  = DKA400 (the CD) is not one of the hard wired addresses in the > storage shelf. Now, if someone have opened the disk container,A unpluged the address selection cable and then put jumpers in it's @ place, yes, you can get a address conflict. But this wouldn't be8 the first thing someone with a AS1000 should have to do.  D I'd open the box and find out how the thing is actualy cabled. ThereC is two SCSI controlers istalled, so if the cables are in place, and E there is a working, supported disk installed, SHO DEV should show it.    Jan-Erik Sderholm.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 21:14:13 GMT - From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> # Subject: Re: Alphaserver 1000 4/200 * Message-ID: <3CA62C64.9080900@qsl.network>   Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:   A > In the AS 1000 series of servers, the SCSI address of any disks B > in the internal disk shelf is hard wired in the shelf backplane.  C That is the default address of the disk.  There is a switchpack on  2 StorageWorks bricks that allow it to be overriden.   -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:41:30 +0100 3 From: Terje Mathisen <terje.mathisen@hda.hydro.com>   Subject: Re: Blade architectures- Message-ID: <3CA58849.A608D0BB@hda.hydro.com>    Peter da Silva wrote: + > a wall-to-wall bank of fans for cooling.  & > Higher density, and no moving parts.   No moving parts???   :-)    Terje    --    - <Terje.Mathisen@hda.hydro.com>@ "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching"   ------------------------------   Date: 31 Mar 2002 00:36:33 GMT& From: peter@abbnm.com (Peter da Silva)  Subject: Re: Blade architectures% Message-ID: <a85lmh$t57@web.nmti.com>   - In article <3CA58849.A608D0BB@hda.hydro.com>, 5 Terje Mathisen  <terje.mathisen@hda.hydro.com> wrote:  > Peter da Silva wrote: - > > a wall-to-wall bank of fans for cooling.  ( > > Higher density, and no moving parts.   > No moving parts???  D OK, OK, no moving parts that aren't as highly redundant as you like.   --  +  `-_-'   In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva. E   'U`    "A well-rounded geek should be able to geek about anything." L                                                        -- nicolai@esperi.org          Disclaimer: WWFD?   ------------------------------   Date: 31 Mar 2002 00:40:23 GMT& From: peter@abbnm.com (Peter da Silva)  Subject: Re: Blade architectures$ Message-ID: <a85ltn$73@web.nmti.com>  , In article <3CA5E76B.6000802@gregcagle.com>,( Greg Cagle  <gregc@gregcagle.com> wrote: > Peter da Silva wrote: . > > In article <3CA563EA.30805@gregcagle.com>,, > > Greg Cagle  <gregc@gregcagle.com> wrote:O > >>Respectfully disagree. HP strongly believes in the right tool for the right K > >>task, based on customer requirements. There are some environments where N > >>HP-UX is the best solution, some where Linux is, and some where Windows isJ > >>the right answer for the customer. HP will sell you whichever OS makes > >>sense for your needs.   K > > I agree, there are places where Windows is the right solution. The last N > > three iterations of NT prior to XP (I haven't looked at XP yet, so I can'tK > > comment on it) have been decent desktop operating systems, for example.   O > I'm posting this from an XP machine, and it isn't bad if you can get past the E > Toys R Us improvements to the UI. But underneath it's NT/2000 based 9 > so it's a vast improvement over the 95/98/ME code base.   N The only reason anyone's used the 95/98/ME code base in the last five years isN to play games, or for really abusive driver problems (laptops, scanners, etc).   Well, anyone *sane*.  J > > How a blade-based system is going to be useful for a desktop user is aL > > different matter. Perhaps for thin client support using Windows Terminal< > > Server? It doesn't seem relevant to web hosting, though.  M > Right - and that is where HP is going to position Linux on the blade boxes.   I If you're running Linux, why do they need the heat, cost, and reliability  problems of local disk?    --  +  `-_-'   In hoc signo hack, Peter da Silva. E   'U`    "A well-rounded geek should be able to geek about anything." L                                                        -- nicolai@esperi.org          Disclaimer: WWFD?   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 17:31:04 GMT 3 From: sy18889@rabbit.fmr.com (Bradford J. Hamilton) # Subject: Re: Commnets on Mozilla9.9 . Message-ID: <sDmp8.16$M3.91@news-srv1.fmr.com>   Hi Tom,   > You've probably done this already, but it doesn't hurt to ask:  N I installed the images, as recommended by COMPAQ, which seemed to speed up the6 loading of pages.  I assume you've done this, as well.  O I am lucky enough to own a box with .75Gb of memory, and the account that I run N on has WSQ and WSE set very high.  I run DECWindows, so I run Mozilla from itsN own "DCL Command Prompt", so that I don't "waste" a complete DECterm trying to run it.   D I do agree with your observations re: IE on W2K, and its comparativeM speedidness compared to Mozilla on OVMS.  One advantage that Mozilla gives me O is the ability to browse the patch site, download what I need right on the box, > and install it, without resorting to "stupid FTP tricks".  :-)  O BTW, have you tried Mozilla for Windows?  I find it a reasonable alternative to @ IE.  Others are (of course) encouraged to present their views...  _ In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJICEGDEHAA.tom@kednos.com>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes: F >Downloaded and installed this morning.  I ensured that all the system= >parameters were as recommended.  It took 20 seconds to load!  > B >It took 19 secs to connect to www.openvms.compaq.com on a T1 line > D >Using IE on a W2K box of similar speed connect time was less than a >second, and loadup likewiae.  > @ >Looks to me like Mozilla needs a lot of work, but it may not be >fixable without major rewrite.  > @ >I don't think it is worthwhile testing any other features.  It ; >remains attached to the window from which it was launched.  > 4 >I think Compaq should entice Opera to port to VMS ! >  >  Bradford J. Hamilton& MAPSbradhamilton@MAPSattbi.com		(home)& sy18889MAPS@rabbit.MAPSfmr.com		(work)  ; "All opinions that I express are my own, not my employer's"  "Lose the MAPS"    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 17:40:37 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> # Subject: Re: Commnets on Mozilla9.9 , Message-ID: <3CA63ED9.4C3D57E3@videotron.ca>   "Bradford J. Hamilton" wrote: O > speedidness compared to Mozilla on OVMS.  One advantage that Mozilla gives me Q > is the ability to browse the patch site, download what I need right on the box, @ > and install it, without resorting to "stupid FTP tricks".  :-)  L Mosaic 3.6 should be more than enough for this. And it is safe as it doesn't support javascript or java.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 00:35:48 +0100  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl># Subject: Re: Commnets on Mozilla9.9 & Message-ID: <3CA64BD4.5060708@home.nl>  F Indeed, it is a bit slow. Don't forget, it also loves memory, lots of H it. You may need to autogen your system after you have used Mozilla for H a while. The install does help, and I also install the plugins for Java D and Flash. It does make things faster, however why it takes so long 1 before I get a about:plugins window is beyond me.        Tom Linden wrote:   F >Downloaded and installed this morning.  I ensured that all the system= >parameters were as recommended.  It took 20 seconds to load!  > B >It took 19 secs to connect to www.openvms.compaq.com on a T1 line > D >Using IE on a W2K box of similar speed connect time was less than a >second, and loadup likewiae.  > @ >Looks to me like Mozilla needs a lot of work, but it may not be >fixable without major rewrite.  > @ >I don't think it is worthwhile testing any other features.  It ; >remains attached to the window from which it was launched.  > 4 >I think Compaq should entice Opera to port to VMS ! >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:27:40 -0600 C From: "Craig A. Berry" <craig.berry@nospam.SignalTreeSolutions.com> # Subject: Re: Commnets on Mozilla9.9 H Message-ID: <craig.berry-FB3EBC.19274030032002@news.directvinternet.com>  F In article <3CA64BD4.5060708@home.nl>, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote:   > why it takes so long  3 > before I get a about:plugins window is beyond me.   C It's beyond anyone at the moment but Colin's already bugzillaed it:   4 <http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=130322>   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 20:55:12 -0500 (EST) ! From: rgoodmancompute1@neo.rr.com 6 Subject: computer keyboards, workstation keyboards etcE Message-ID: <200203310155.g2V1tCZ22576@clmboh1-smtp3.columbus.rr.com>   	 Dear sir,    You received this email because I have done a search for websites that resell, refurbish, repair, recycle or buy computer keyboards.  I happen to have hundreds of them and I am looking for buyers.  I would prefer to sell them by the Ib to a buyer.  I have a constant flow of computer hardware.  I have buyers for much of my products but I need some leads for computer keyboards.  We get all makes and models in all conditions.If your interested in my keyboards  please email me back with your interest and what yQ our looking for price wise.  We have all type unsorted.. Thank you for your time.    Dave  "cpu-neoh"     rgoodmancompute1@neo.rr.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 21:06:38 +0100 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> H Subject: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things' Message-ID: <3CA61ACE.2F675EED@Free.fr>   @ I hurry up before midnite so that noone thinks that it may be an aprilfool question :-)  E I am studying navigation. I bought a compass, a special CRAS ruler, a ( book, the map for the exam, etc. Lovely!  H I would like to write a DCL procedure which tells me by how many miles IF will miss my destination if I have a thousand miles to cruise and I doL an error of one degree in my "cap" (English translation for "cap"? Azimuth?)   Thanks,    D.) Advanced DCL-aided Navigation Engineering  :-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 12:10:23 -0800 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> L Subject: RE: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIEEGGEHAA.tom@kednos.com>   D Well, since the earth is not a perfect sphere, you can use spherical harmonicL expansion a few orders then you will need to give your starting lat/long andD then it is a matter of some math, in other words use Fortran or PL/I   > -----Original Message-----6 > From: Didier Morandi [mailto:Didier.Morandi@Free.fr]) > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 12:07 PM  > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com J > Subject: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things >  > B > I hurry up before midnite so that noone thinks that it may be an > aprilfool question :-) > G > I am studying navigation. I bought a compass, a special CRAS ruler, a * > book, the map for the exam, etc. Lovely! > J > I would like to write a DCL procedure which tells me by how many miles IH > will miss my destination if I have a thousand miles to cruise and I do= > an error of one degree in my "cap" (English translation for  > "cap"? Azimuth?) > 	 > Thanks,  >  > D.+ > Advanced DCL-aided Navigation Engineering  > :-)  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 17:12:13 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> L Subject: Re: DCL minute of the day: navigation, degrees and all these things, Message-ID: <3CA63832.43DDCD32@videotron.ca>   Didier Morandi wrote: J > I would like to write a DCL procedure which tells me by how many miles IH > will miss my destination if I have a thousand miles to cruise and I do% > an error of one degree in my "cap"     Your best friend is:' http://williams.best.vwh.net/avform.htm    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:08:22 -0500 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> ! Subject: DECC$RTLDEF.TLB question , Message-ID: <3CA65363.EEFFA60B@videotron.ca>  K I finally succeeded in installing the C++ 5.6 compiler. However, during the K installation, contrary to what others have said here, the installation does % overwrite a few DEC-C specific files.   M Notably, the DECC$RTLDEF.TLB file.  On VAX, the CXX 5.6 dates from about 7.1. 4 I have DEC-C which came with 7.2 on the bobbyist CD.  L There are substantial differences in the two files. Notably, the CXX versionM has modules such as FAB, XAB and all sorts of VMS specific stuff, not tied to @ the C run time library which the DECC provided TLB doesn't have.  K The DEC-C install created sys$common:[DECC$LIB.REFERENCE.DECC$RTLDEF] which K contains a lot of the .H modules. It contains 479 modules, whereas the .TLB " provided by CXX contains only 404.0 The DEC-C prodiced TLB contains only 75 modules.  K I can compare the modules in the 2 TLBs and for modules present in both the 8 DEC-C and CXX provided files, can check for differences.  M However, for modules present in the CXX TLB but not inside the DEC-C TLB, but I present in the DECC$RTLDEF directory, should one have precedence over the  other ?   N There are also many other directories that have .H files (such as DECwindows).  M What exactly should the DECC$RTLDEF.TLB file contain ? Just the  C RTL stuff, B or should it also contain the VMS specific stuff such as FAB, ACL,& EDT$ROUTINES, SSDEF, STARLET etc etc ?  M My main concern is that of VMS-specifc stuff which may change from version to M versions. Since the CXX compiler is old, should I be worried that it would be  missing stuff ?    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 18:04:42 -0800V# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>u% Subject: RE: DECC$RTLDEF.TLB question 9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIIEGJEHAA.tom@kednos.com>0  8 Isn't this the sort of thing for which SDL was invented?   > -----Original Message-----6 > From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca]( > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 4:08 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Como# > Subject: DECC$RTLDEF.TLB questiono >  > C > I finally succeeded in installing the C++ 5.6 compiler. However, a > during the< > installation, contrary to what others have said here, the  > installation doesa' > overwrite a few DEC-C specific files.n > @ > Notably, the DECC$RTLDEF.TLB file.  On VAX, the CXX 5.6 dates  > from about 7.1.06 > I have DEC-C which came with 7.2 on the bobbyist CD. > C > There are substantial differences in the two files. Notably, the  
 > CXX versioneD > has modules such as FAB, XAB and all sorts of VMS specific stuff, 
 > not tied toiB > the C run time library which the DECC provided TLB doesn't have. >  > The DEC-C install created 3 > sys$common:[DECC$LIB.REFERENCE.DECC$RTLDEF] which-= > contains a lot of the .H modules. It contains 479 modules, 0 > whereas the .TLB$ > provided by CXX contains only 404.2 > The DEC-C prodiced TLB contains only 75 modules. > B > I can compare the modules in the 2 TLBs and for modules present 
 > in both the>: > DEC-C and CXX provided files, can check for differences. > A > However, for modules present in the CXX TLB but not inside the a > DEC-C TLB, butK > present in the DECC$RTLDEF directory, should one have precedence over thea	 > other ?V > D > There are also many other directories that have .H files (such as  > DECwindows). > C > What exactly should the DECC$RTLDEF.TLB file contain ? Just the  , > C RTL stuff,D > or should it also contain the VMS specific stuff such as FAB, ACL,( > EDT$ROUTINES, SSDEF, STARLET etc etc ? > @ > My main concern is that of VMS-specifc stuff which may change  > from version to:D > versions. Since the CXX compiler is old, should I be worried that 
 > it would beE > missing stuff ?  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 00:22:33 +0100y From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>2 Subject: Re: EMC / Symmetrix information requested& Message-ID: <3CA648B9.1030007@home.nl>  I There is a white paper from Yahoo (or another well known internet site). kC They compared EMC with HSG80. HSG80 was faster, and about 80% (!!)  + cheaper at the time. (investment in $ / GB)dF I would go for the HSV110, it is much faster then the HSG80, and only D about 25% more expensive with a 3 TB configuration. The really nice F thing about this unit is that it is self configuring, so it will give 4 you the best performance more or less automatically.  I Symmetrix is build for the mainframe market, and there are very distinct eA differences between mainframe disk IO and mini disk IO. I'm sure nG Symmetrix is good, but I doubt very much if it is the best thing for a  H VMS cluster. I was able to prevent my company from attaching the ES40's H to (existing) Symmetrix, and buy HSG80 with 15K drives instead. I never E regretted, not in the least when I see my Unix colleagues struggling .H with getting the EMC so far that it will give them the performance they  need.   B Another problem may be that you may have to rely on EMC people to C configure the storage. And don't forget to calculate the expensive  , software add-ons you may need for Symmetrix.  I So my conclusion is simple. Unless you have a IBM mainframe (or similar) iH I don't see any reason to buy Symmetrix. However management often falls G for well known brand names and smooth talking salesmen. Decisions like :F this are not made on technical and/or financial grounds. You know the F saying "no one has ever been fired for buying IBM", and I suppose the  same applies to EMC.   Tom Simpson wrote:  K >Does anyone have experiences with EMC in general and the Symmetrix 3830-36  >disk arrayr@ >(or similar) that they would like to share?  Included with this  >configuration is a Quantum SDLT >tape subsystem. >rK >It looks like we are going to be installing this stuff in the near future.g >DM >We would prefer the Compaq MA8000 solution but the corporate weenies seem to  >have ahK >preference for the EMC solution even though it's more expensive and not as  >fast as the MA8000fJ >(so I'm told).  I'm very nervous about introducing mission critical third >party hardware and software >into our ES40 cluster.l >eG >Id' like to find out if the EMC solution works as advertised and their  >support is as wonderfulM >as they make it out to be.  I've been in these third-party situations before  >and problem resolution K >usually starts with a finger-pointing party before the problem is actually- >resolved.  That's one >party I'd prefer to skip... >oA >I've been unable to find any direct comparison performance data.a >t	 >Regards,t >Tom >  >a   ------------------------------   Date: 30 Mar 2002 19:56:14 GMT/ From: Thomas Dickey <dickey@saltmine.radix.net>a3 Subject: Re: Help! VT100 emulators - some problems.e* Message-ID: <a8558u$j9q$1@news1.Radix.Net>  # GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> wrote:t > Thomas Dickey wrote:  L > Interesting.  Then I'd suppose they'd be happy to hear some feedback from K > you.  Is there a site for learning more about terminfo or termcap files??w  F not really - none that I'd find useful.  I have a copy of the O'ReillyF termcap/terminfo book, which tells some interesting stuff, but betweenA that and the terminfo/termcap manpages there's a large gap.  (The F problem with the manpages is that most of the items "capabilities" areF documented in only one line - the O'Reilly book expands on a number ofE those, but ignores color and related topics which were not of general  interest in the mid 80s').   -- I= Thomas E. Dickey <dickey@radix.net> <dickey@herndon4.his.com>e http://dickey.his.comd ftp://dickey.his.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 04:36:21 GMTp1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>a! Subject: Re: Macro-64 and Vax VMSo' Message-ID: <3CA6949B.F2CF2F16@fsi.net>m   Mark Gutzwiller wrote: > [snip] > I just9 > wasn't sure what MACRO-64 (or 32) did. So I had to ask.n  C On VAX, Macro/32 is  "VAX Assembler". It happens to support macros;,? hence, a "macro assembler"; thus, the name. On VAX, it's a 2GL.i  E On Alpha, Macro/32 is modified somewhat and is a compiler; that is, a  3GL.  F On Alpha, Macro/64 is "Alpha Assembler". It happens to support macros;7 hence, a "macro assembler"; thus, the name. It's a 2GL.e  4 Dunno if that helps or just adds to the confusion...   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 20:48:28 -0800u# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>e! Subject: RE: Macro-64 and Vax VMS.9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIAEGLEHAA.tom@kednos.com>b  L I don't think there are any rigorous definitions of what a 2GL or a 3 GL is;J however, I would not characterize Macro/32 or C for that matter as 3GL.  I tend1 to associate 3GL with block structured languages.m   > -----Original Message-----8 > From: David J. Dachtera [mailto:djesys.nospam@fsi.net]( > Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2002 8:36 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Coms# > Subject: Re: Macro-64 and Vax VMS  >  >  > Mark Gutzwiller wrote:
 > > [snip]
 > > I just; > > wasn't sure what MACRO-64 (or 32) did. So I had to ask.  > E > On VAX, Macro/32 is  "VAX Assembler". It happens to support macros;tA > hence, a "macro assembler"; thus, the name. On VAX, it's a 2GL.  >oG > On Alpha, Macro/32 is modified somewhat and is a compiler; that is, ad > 3GL. >dH > On Alpha, Macro/64 is "Alpha Assembler". It happens to support macros;9 > hence, a "macro assembler"; thus, the name. It's a 2GL.I >D6 > Dunno if that helps or just adds to the confusion... >  > -- > David J. Dachtera  > dba DJE Systemss > http://www.djesys.com/ >r* > Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page:! > http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/s >    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2002 03:45:42 GMTx. From: couperusNOSPAM@znet.com (Jitze Couperus)! Subject: Re: Obituary for a Cyber , Message-ID: <3ca68389.326085063@sd.znet.com>  C On Sat, 30 Mar 2002 10:05:46 GMT, cjt <cheljuba@prodigy.net> wrote:k  M >I seem to recall reading about the Museum not treating some of the donationsoL >they received with the respect they deserved.  Precisely what is the policyF >regarding the disposition of donations?  How do they decide which to: >h >maintain/display/restoreP >sellm >cannibalize >scrap >other >e  ; I have absolutely no connection with the museum, but I have-< been following its progress over the years. My impression is: that what you heard/read might well apply in some measure A to another museum on the right coast, but that the one at MoffettdD Field in California is squarely aimed at "historical" (cf their name? change) as in preservation for research and education, This is eD as opposed to for example "a  kiddie museum" aimed at entertainment C of the masses, and wherein historic artefacts might be sold to fund)@ the construction of Disneyesque attractions that will contribute% improved revenues to the bottom line.a  B But again, I'm just an interested onlooker... just my impressions.   Jitze    ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 14:35:19 -0800 (PST)D. From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>+ Subject: Re: OpenVMS and Xerox DocuPrint 65 @ Message-ID: <20020330223519.80342.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com>   John  , I am sending to the printer by LPR protocol. So, the protocol is TCPIP./ The Xerox is connected to a Sun Solaris server.w     Regardsa FC2 --- "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network> wrote: > Fabio Cardoso wrote:. > > Anyone is printing from OpenVMS to a Xerox > > DocuPrint 65 ? > > 5 > > I am searchin for the scape sequences to disable 0- > > the printer banner - if there is a escapen > sequence.e/ > > The prooblem is: I need to send some escapeW > sequencesi2 > > to change the report fonts, but I sent it in a > file,i0 > > before the report. Each job file generates a	 > banner,b2 > > and the next banner resets the previous escape > conf.n > 4 > How are you sending the print jobs to the printer? > 
 > Connection?  >  > Network Protocol?i >  > Host software? > 6 > Is there an intermediate print serving host involved > or are you printing  > directly to the printer? >  > -John7 > wb8tyw@qsl.network > Personal Opinion Only@ >      =====e ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Braziln fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?> Yahoo! Greetings - send holiday greetings for Easter, Passover http://greetings.yahoo.com/b   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 20:52:22 -0500.% From: "John Vottero" <John@mvpsi.com>-A Subject: Re: Sending Wake-up Message from NT to OpenVMS batch jobo/ Message-ID: <uacqunajnbn740@news.supernews.com>a  G If you're going to look at multiplatform schedulers you should considero
 JAMS, see:   http://JAMS.Argent-Software.com    OpenVMS, NT, Unix etc.  6 "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@Compaq.com> wrote in messageL news:BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF401AB1DDA@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net. .. Kelly,  ; Not sure how big of an environment you have, but there is ab& multi-platform scheduler available at: http://www.i-s-e.comG http://www.i-s-e.com/Products/EnterpriseSCHEDULE/enterpriseschedule.htm.  A Also, from Cust's I know using it, they like both the product and  support they have with ISE.    Regardso  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultantn Compaq Canada Corp.  Professional Services. Voice: 613-592-4660i Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@Compaq.com     -----Original Message-----, From: Kelly Donahue [mailto:cask1@yahoo.com] Sent: March 28, 2002 1:58 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comj= Subject: Sending Wake-up Message from NT to OpenVMS batch jobh     Hi,sD   What's the easiest/best way to pass a wake-up message from NT to aF program running in batch under OpenVMS?  We'd like the OpenVMS programH to hibernate until it receives a message then wake up, do its work, then< go back to sleep.  The message can be as little as one byte.  6   We're running OpenVMS V7.1 and UCX 4.1 update ECO 6.   Thanks in advance.   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 15:11:26 GMTn3 From: sy18889@rabbit.fmr.com (Bradford J. Hamilton) W Subject: Re: Slow Mozilla was(RE: Viability of a Commercial ISO-9960 formatter for VMS) . Message-ID: <yAkp8.15$M3.38@news-srv1.fmr.com>  
 Hello All,  M Just another data point - I have Mozilla (CSWB) running on a 433au, V7.3.  IthK runs very well.  The same 433au, running TRU64 V5.0(a?), has Netscape V4.7,l. which seems to run better than Mozilla on VMS.  K I have problems viewing web pages with Netscape V4.7, that can be seen fineoN with Mozilla.  Which would I choose?  Mozilla, given my need to view web pagesO which seem to increasingly "break" under Netscape (I know, I know, "standards",d5 but that train has *long* since left the station...).1    _ In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIAEFPEHAA.tom@kednos.com>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes: B >Sounds like Mozilla is not ready for prime time yet.  I tried 091I >about a year ago on a 433au running 7.3 and found it was too slow to be i) >useful.  Too bad Opera is not available.r >  >> -----Original Message----- * >> From: John Santos [mailto:JOHN@egh.com]( >> Sent: Friday, March 29, 2002 11:53 PM >> To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComD >> Subject: Re: Viability of a Commercial ISO-9960 formatter for VMS >> e >> y) >> On Sat, 30 Mar 2002, Bob Marcan wrote:A >> h >> > John Santos wrote:  >> [...]L >> > > It is very slow on an AS200 4/100, though much faster with 256MB thanJ >> > > it was with 80MB, which was unusable.  Netscape 4.73 on DEC Unix onJ >> > > the same hardware is fine (not screamingly fast but fast enough not >> > > to be annoying.)e >> > D+ >> > Wait a minute. What are you comparing?ML >> > Mozilla with Netscape? I have Mozilla 0.9.9 and Nestcape 4.78 on Tru64.2 >> > Nestcape: snap, Mozilla: take a coffee break. >> > n	 >> > -Bobc >>  K >> I'm comparing Mozilla 0.9.8 on VMS V7.3 with Netscape 4.73 on DUNIX 4.0DpG >> Both running on AlphaStation 200 4/100 w/288MB.  The VMS workstation B >> has a single RZ28 disk, whereas the DUNIX has a pair of RZ26's. >> Otherwise identical.c >> CH >> I recently upgraded the two from 80MB (VMS) and 128MB (Unix) to 288MBE >> (both).  Netscape on the DUNIX system became slightly faster.  (AnhF >> earlier upgrade from 64MB to 128MB on the Unix system made a largerE >> difference, but even at 64MB it wasn't horribly slow.)  Mozilla onTG >> the VMS system at 80MB was unusably slow.  (Grow the coffee, harvestwE >> it, roast it, grind it...)  With 288MB, it is very slow, but pagesn >> do appear eventually. >> tH >> Very old Netscape (V3.03?) and Mosiac do work okay on the VMS system,9 >> though lots of sites have problems due to the version.  >> dH >> I know this is apples and oranges, but I think most of the differenceD >> is attributable to Mozilla vs. Netscape V4.x, rather than VMS vs.F >> Unix.  I think I would have to upgrade the Unix box to Tru64 to tryI >> Mozilla on it, and the CD drive is broken, so I haven't done that yet.e >> tC >> I hope as Mozilla approachs release, the performance is improvedd: >> a lot, or I will have to stick with 4.7 on my Unix box. >> t >> --  >> John Santos >> Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc.n >> 781-861-0670 ext 539c >>     Bradford J. Hamilton& MAPSbradhamilton@MAPSattbi.com		(home)& sy18889MAPS@rabbit.MAPSfmr.com		(work)  ; "All opinions that I express are my own, not my employer's". "Lose the MAPS"?   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Mar 2002 19:28:15 -0800) From: P.Young@unsw.EDU.AU (Patrick Young),A Subject: Re: Why do I get an ASTFLT with following use of ualarm?w= Message-ID: <55f85d77.0203301928.41cccb0a@posting.google.com>l  [ Roar Throns <roart@nvg.ntnu.no> wrote in message news:<a84a47$osi$1@tyfon.itea.ntnu.no>...- > ! > And setitimer wraps against...?  >   & Not so much wraps, however gsignal :-)    The same ASTFLT can be had with:   #include <signal>L #include <stdio>   void sig_rtn(int sig) {s  #     printf("In sig_rtn %d\n", sig);L     gsignal(SIGALRM);-       }    main() {       signal(SIGALRM, sig_rtn);i     gsignal(SIGALRM);        }a   $ r gsignal0
 In sig_rtn 14 M %SYSTEM-F-ASTFLT, AST fault, SP=00000000, param=00000000, PC=0000000000000000   D At the bottom of the ast routine (itimer_ast) in setitimer (timer.c) it does, like the above, a:a       gsignal(SIGALRM);i  H As was mentioned, a "hack" to fix this is to include another signal callI in your signal handler routine. This could be better placed at about herer in the itimer_ast code:D  3     if ((interval[0] != 0) || (interval[1] != 0)) {r         int reqidt = 'C$T4';&         set_expiration_time(interval);3         sys$setimr(0,interval,itimer_ast,reqidt,0);s	         }c  D where the next timer is set. Gotta run now, however I'll have a play5 with it if I get some time - it's vagely interesting.e  K > I expect alarm, ualarm and setitimer all wrap down to $setimr in the end?h  J alarm is it's own module with it's own use of sys$setimr. Some bits of theC alarm module code have been used in the setitimer (timer.c) module.e   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.177 ************************