1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 20 May 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 277       Contents:2 RE: "Best" programming language on VMS for newbie?/ Can HSJ node numbers be changed without reboot? 3 Re: Can HSJ node numbers be changed without reboot? * Re: DECUS Lyon: Another VMS summary (long)* Re: DHCP and ADSL: no view from outside??? Re: Diskeeper Usage  End of an era. Re: End of an era./ Free - Wide Storageworks Drive Shells and BA350  Re: HP startup screen anyone?  Re: No new Alpha sales Re: No new Alpha sales Re: No new Alpha sales" Please help: Hobbes failed to boot& Re: Please help: Hobbes failed to boot& Re: Please help: Hobbes failed to boot Re: print queue name Re: print queue name Re: Proxy question) Queue info via Web Server (Apache & WASD) - Re: Queue info via Web Server (Apache & WASD) - Re: Queue info via Web Server (Apache & WASD) - Re: Queue info via Web Server (Apache & WASD)  Re: scsi cluster Re: scsi cluster Re: Stallards smoking gun! Re: Stallards smoking gun! Re: Stallards smoking gun! Re: Stallards smoking gun! Re: Stallards smoking gun! Re: Stallards smoking gun!6 TFTP (Was :Re: DECUS Lyon: Another VMS summary (long))9 Re: Traditional VMS NFS names vs. Extended Filename Parse 9 Re: Traditional VMS NFS names vs. Extended Filename Parse - Re: UCX server spuriously refuses connections < Re: VMS 7.3 upgrade problems - a bad workman blaming his tooN Re: Windows 2000 Server drops off the network after upgrading Advanced  Server  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 11:49:10 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> ; Subject: RE: "Best" programming language on VMS for newbie? 9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIOEEAFAAA.tom@kednos.com>   F Our current plan is to have it available by the middle of 2004, but itF could come sooner if we see increased interest.  Most of our customersH are not taking a position on IPF, and it doesn't seem to be prominent inG their thinking and planning, in fact one of them is just now converting  from VAX to alpha.   >-----Original Message----- 1 >From: Bart Zorn [mailto:B.Zorn@xs4all.nospam.nl] # >Sent: Sunday, May 19, 2002 2:01 AM  >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com< >Subject: Re: "Best" programming language on VMS for newbie? >  >  >Tom Linden wrote:A >> You left out the most powerful language of them all, PL/I.  No I >> syntactic ambiguities there, and easy to learn.  Subsumes the sematics L >> of most 3GLs.  Very powerful diagnostic processing to aid the programmer,G >> and error handling capability to faclitate real production programs.  >> >  >	[Snip] >  >Hi Tom, > H >Can you say anything about the availability of PL/I for OpenVMS on IPF? > J >In other words, can we still use the best language on the best OS on IPF? > 
 >Bart Zorn >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). @ >Version: 6.0.360 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002 >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.360 / Virus Database: 199 - Release Date: 5/7/2002    ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 15:36:45 -0600 (MDT) " From: John Nebel <nebel@csdco.com>8 Subject: Can HSJ node numbers be changed without reboot?F Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.21.0205191530490.1657-100000@athena.csdco.com>  H Is it possible whith an HSJ50 pair to fail disks to one controller, thenE change the name and CI node number on the other and restart it?  Then A repeat the process so both controllers have changed node numbers?   H The reason is to put the HSJs at the lowest addresses so as to adhere toG the rule - HSJs at the lowest address, CIXCDs higher, CIPCA highest and 0 avoid shutting everything down at the same time.     Thanks.   
 John Nebel   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 01:43:37 GMT ' From: Stuart Fuller <stufuller@usa.net> < Subject: Re: Can HSJ node numbers be changed without reboot?0 Message-ID: <coh9ca.hpp.ln@dadsys1.fuller.local>   John Nebel wrote:  > J > Is it possible whith an HSJ50 pair to fail disks to one controller, thenG > change the name and CI node number on the other and restart it?  Then C > repeat the process so both controllers have changed node numbers?  > J > The reason is to put the HSJs at the lowest addresses so as to adhere toI > the rule - HSJs at the lowest address, CIXCDs higher, CIPCA highest and 2 > avoid shutting everything down at the same time. >  > 	 > Thanks.  >  > John Nebel   No.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 21:04:29 GMT 5 From: "Brad McCusker" <brad.mccuskerNOSP@Mcompaq.com> 3 Subject: Re: DECUS Lyon: Another VMS summary (long) 8 Message-ID: <xrUF8.1$m16.236655@cacnews.cac.cpqcorp.net>  = "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com> wrote in message & news:ac4h1801ij2@enews1.newsguy.com...0 > Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@free.fr> wrote:A > > About VAX no, but Mark did say that HP still supports PDPs...  > J > Really?  That's interesting.  I wonder what that support consists of, is it3 > more than simply pointing the customer at Mentec.   G Didier mis-heard what Mark said.  Mark specifically mentioned "...still  supported by Mentec..."    Brad   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 14:35:08 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> 3 Subject: Re: DHCP and ADSL: no view from outside??? , Message-ID: <3CE7F05B.1D8F13FB@videotron.ca>   Didier Morandi wrote:  > G > I have no route if I use 192.168.1.1 (the outer leg of the router) or  > 192.168.1.2 (the inner leg).  J If your host has a 192.168.* or a 10.*  IP address, then all IP packets it; sends out will just stop at the first router along the way.   I If your DSL modem does not have NAT capabilities, then your host MUST use N whatever IP address your ISP's DHCP provided because your ISP will see packets& coming from your host, not your modem.  H If your modem has NAT capabilities, you then use a local non-routable IPK address on your host(s) (192.168.* or 10.*) and make sure your NAT router's K LAN-side IP address is in the same subnet. The router's WAN side IP address / will be negotiated by the router with your ISP.   L Your NAT router then takes packets sent by your host and replaces the sourceN IP address with the one provided by your ISP, which the router manages. To theN ISP, all traffic appears to come from the single router, both from an ethernet< address point of view and from the IP address point of view.  K But if your modem does not have NAT capabilities, your ISP will get packets L that come from your computers, so the computer must have the IP address that% the ISP provided you. (via dhcp etc).    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 09:54:58 +1000 = From: "Mark\(unMASK\)Forsyth" <forsytMhm@optAushoSme.com.aKu>  Subject: Re: Diskeeper Usage5 Message-ID: <05A16B125C713DE5406D531A648EDA6A@plague>   , "Roy Omond" <Roy@Omond.net> wrote in message# news:3CE7BF79.E4151963@Omond.net...  > "Mark(unMASK)Forsyth" wrote: >  > > [... snip ...] > > H > > I'll second that[1]. Don't let ANYTHING except Oracle have at Oracle files.F > > Doing so leads to periods where the diet consists solely of thingsK > > containing caffeine and pizza. Your friendly, local DBA, although being  VERY8 > > bloody local indeed, will be FAR from friendly...:-) > > 	 > > Ooroo 
 > > Mark F... J > > [1] 1st. hand experience, although with DFO rather than Diskeeper. The DBA B > > was well beyond apoplectic and many hard questions were asked.I > > I'm reliably informed that PerfectDisk causes similar ructions in the  camp.  > H > I'm genuinely curious to know why.  Can you expand a bit on why OracleJ > should care if a file is moved (and made more contiguous) ?  I'd presumeE > that the file was not open at the time (otherwise DFO wouldn't have  > touched it). >   K It's quite simple really. I was told to leave a disk alone while the Oracle I database files were put on it and I didn't get around to modifying my DFO L stuff before the Oracle stuff was put on the disk. DFO started to do its bitJ and the DBA started the database. Presumably Oracle wasn't happy with whatL was happening to its files when it opened them. From there there was no more? investigation just a hurried / harried re-restore of the Oracle  databases...:-)    Ooroo 	 Mark F...      > Roy Omond  > Blue Bubble Ltd. >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 20:27:09 +0100 ; From: "Leigh G. Bowden" <LGBowden@bowdenfamily.fsnet.co.uk>  Subject: End of an era. / Message-ID: <ac8uaa$4ab$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>   K Well the time is soon approaching when 50+ OpenVMS VAX and AXP machines are J going to be made redundant and replaced with new Win 2000 system. The restG of the OpenVMS systems will be made redundant over the next year or so.   G Just to keep my hand in do people know if there are any books available I (ISBN numbers preferably) covering; VMS Basic, RMS, System Management and  any other interesting ones.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:49:24 -0700 " From: GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> Subject: Re: End of an era. ( Message-ID: <3CE83A04.3AC354D5@mist.com>   "Leigh G. Bowden" wrote: > M > Well the time is soon approaching when 50+ OpenVMS VAX and AXP machines are L > going to be made redundant and replaced with new Win 2000 system. The restI > of the OpenVMS systems will be made redundant over the next year or so.  >   9 My condolensces for moving over to win2k.  You won't like  it.   I > Just to keep my hand in do people know if there are any books available K > (ISBN numbers preferably) covering; VMS Basic, RMS, System Management and  > any other interesting ones.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 18:16:11 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@mmaz.com> 8 Subject: Free - Wide Storageworks Drive Shells and BA350' Message-ID: <3CE84E5B.2050103@mmaz.com>   H I had purchased for my hobby system a BA350, which was supposed to be a G BA356, and it was supposed to be loaded with five wide DEC drives from  D an eBay auction.  Long story short, the bozo that sold the gear had C replaced the actual DEC drives with WD's that ran so hot, they had  9 vaporized in the low ventilation shells, basically DOA.     G Anyway, I have the empty shells which where original for RZ28-VW's and  F the BA350, so if anyone wants them for free and is willing to issue a G UPS call-tag for pickup, contact me off-line at my work e-mail address  F and I'll exchange my home pickup address so that you can schedule the I pickup.  Other than that the BA350 did power up and did attempt to power  D up the drives, I cannot make any claims to the functionality of the E remains as they were pretty beat up from them cramming the WD drives   into them...   Barry    --    @ Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO   A E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028    ------------------------------   Date: 19 May 2002 23:15:45 GMT2 From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com>& Subject: Re: HP startup screen anyone?, Message-ID: <ac9bn102rna@enews1.newsguy.com>  . Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@free.fr> wrote:Q > Who has a nice New HP startup screen to clean up my PWS configuration, with all $ > these COMPAQ letters everywhere...  < Bah!  I prefer a nice d|i|g|i|t|a|l on my startup screen!!!!   		Zane   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 15:00:46 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>  Subject: Re: No new Alpha sales , Message-ID: <3CE7F65B.2C31CD67@videotron.ca>   "Terry C. Shannon" wrote: K > Yeah, both of the aforementioned are about as infallible as the Pope, eh?   N gartner's sayings may be worthy of a sitcom, however, for some reason, lots ofJ enterprises take Gartner as visionary truth. Remember that Gartner in manyK ways is a producer of documents that help managers justify their decisions.   I So if you, as a manager, have an agenda, and you're a paying customer for K Gartner, then Gartner can produce some study that will support your agenda. L You can then go to your upper management and propose your plan, with Gartner supporting it.  J How do you think that managers of IBM shops were able to justify the extra$ costs of using IBM all those years ?  J Prior to the purchase of Compaq, how has Gartner historically treated HP ? Positively, or negatively ? L If HP is a big "customer" of Gartner, perhaps Gartner will produce documents which please HP's own goals.   ------------------------------    Date: 19 May 2002 15:29:55 -0700" From: cstranslations@msn.com (Joe) Subject: Re: No new Alpha sales = Message-ID: <d56d1c2d.0205191429.119c0920@posting.google.com>   ` JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:<3CE534DD.F7647BD@videotron.ca>... > Robert Deininger wrote: L > > VMS development on IPF continues, and appears poised to get a boost fromI > > the integration with HP.  HP has far more IPF expertise in-house than 6 > > Compaq did. VMS now has access to those resources. > X > I have only seen statements from HP that development of vMS on Alphaservers continues.A > I have seen separate statement that the port to IA64 continues.  > M > I have no seen any statement that clearly states HP's intentions to develop ( > VMS on IA64 once the port is complete.  % I ought to know better, but anyway...   D From the above you seem to believe (however much) that the IA64 port@ is continuing unaffected. The lack of a white paper stating that? they're advancing the OS on a platform that they won't have the D current release booting on for,  what, 2 years, or there abouts - isF now a statement to what end? They want to prove that the the engineersF supporting OpenVMS can successfully carry out massive software project$ "X" ("X" = porting OpenVMS to IA64)?  F After going through all this work (blood/sweat/tears)... they're goingC to do what? Slap themselves on the back, load the code on a floppy,  then toss it on the shelf????    Joe    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 20:17:45 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>  Subject: Re: No new Alpha sales , Message-ID: <3CE840A1.EAF9B7AD@videotron.ca>  
 Joe wrote:H > After going through all this work (blood/sweat/tears)... they're goingE > to do what? Slap themselves on the back, load the code on a floppy,  > then toss it on the shelf????   K If the port is paid for by Intel, then it may end up costing HP less to let G the project continue than to include those VMS engineers in the list of I severance packages. And cutting the porting project at this point in time  would also be bad PR.    ------------------------------    Date: 19 May 2002 18:30:44 -0700+ From: hobbesnet@hotmail.com (Scott Squires) + Subject: Please help: Hobbes failed to boot = Message-ID: <ff921edf.0205191730.1058e71c@posting.google.com>   C Hobbes is a MicroVAX 3100/40, running VMS 7.2.  I rebooted him, and B when he came back up, OPCOM was spitting out this message over and over:   5 %%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-MAY-2002 19:49:06:11 %%%%%%%%%% ' Message from use AUDIT$SERVER on HOBBES B Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on HOBBES, system id: 1025 3 Auditable event:     Detached process login failure , Event time:          19-MAY-2002 19:49:06:08 PID:                 20400078  Process name:        EVL Username:            DECNET  Process owner:       [SYSTEM] D Image name:          $1$DKB300:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSEXE]LOGINOUT.EXE@ Status:              %LIB-F-ACTIMAGE, error activating image !AS  E At first I thought it was a problem with EVL.  But then I SET HOST to ? Hobbes from Calvin.  It said, "Error activating image !AS".  So ) apparantly it is a problem with LOGINOUT.   C I then rebooted and used a conversational boot to set STARTUP_P1 to B "MIN".  After it had set the interactive login limit to 8, and theC system process had logged out, I pressed return to login.  It said,  "No logical name match".  E Then I rebooted and used a conversational boot to SET/STARTUP OPA0:.  D It joined the cluster, and then sat there.  I pressed return, and it said, "No logical name match".  E I can't think of anything that I changed since the last time I booted0 Hobbes (couple of months ago).  F I have access to the boot disk because I can mount it on Calvin.  WhatA kind of things are likely to cause this to happen?  What should I  check?   Thanks,o
 Scott Squires    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 01:48:42 GMT?- From: "John E. Malmberg" <wb8tyw@qsl.network>n/ Subject: Re: Please help: Hobbes failed to bootl* Message-ID: <3CE8701E.7000504@qsl.network>   Scott Squires wrote:E > Hobbes is a MicroVAX 3100/40, running VMS 7.2.  I rebooted him, andaD > when he came back up, OPCOM was spitting out this message over and > over:a   <snip>  G > I can't think of anything that I changed since the last time I bootedn  > Hobbes (couple of months ago). > H > I have access to the boot disk because I can mount it on Calvin.  WhatC > kind of things are likely to cause this to happen?  What should Ie > check?   Just guessing:  B 1. Accident with SYS$MANAGER:SY*.COM, particular SYCONFIG.COM and  SYLOGICALS.COM   2. Accident with AUTOGEN   3. BAD Disk.  & 4. General accident with system files.  ) Does ANAL/DISK show anything interesting?a   Do you have good backups?M   -Johne wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Onlyo   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 23:26:11 -0400e- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>s/ Subject: Re: Please help: Hobbes failed to boot0, Message-ID: <3CE86CCD.6C1AEA27@videotron.ca>  3 I would try ANA/DISK/REPAIR of the disk if you can.-  F If you can, add the command in systartup_vms.com at the top so that it executes before other stuff.  + Also, ANA/IMAGE and ANA/RMS of LOGINOUT.EXEg  & Look at the error log for disk errors.  N I had a disk fail on my a few months ago, and the "error activating image" wasJ something that happened before disk failure. I had seen disk errors beforeL without apparent problems, but my guess is that they were slowly creeping inL but eventually, sys$system started to be "infected" and some of the critical images got corrupt.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 14:05:29 -0400l1 From: Michael Austin <maustin@firstdbasource.com>, Subject: Re: print queue namev2 Message-ID: <3CE7E969.A9FA1795@firstdbasource.com>   Bitnissen wrote: > F > On Sun, 19 May 2002 14:29:22 +0900, "David Lee" <phongle@kornet.net> > wrote: > L > >How/Where do I set and assign a queue name to SYS$PRINT so I can print it: > >without specifying a queue name everytime when I print? > >Thank you > >e
 > Hi David > ) > Try $define sys$print <your queue mame>u > ( > Add /system if you want it system wide  *     and then only if you have sysnam priv.  > This is called a logical. Read the OpenVMS documentation aboutC assiging/defining logicals.  Look at $HELP for  DEFINE, ASSIGN  and 	 DEASSIGN.m  A You can do this interactively or in a command procedure including F SYS$MANAGER:SYLOGIN.COM -- gets assigned to every interactive user, or$ in the individual account LOGIN.COM.     >  > :-) JimmiV -- F Regards,  7 Michael Austin            Registered Linux User #261163s7 First DBA Source, Inc.    http://www.firstdbasource.com0 Sr. Consultant 704-947-1089 (Office)  704-236-4377 (Mobile)1   ------------------------------    Date: 19 May 2002 15:43:35 -0700" From: cstranslations@msn.com (Joe) Subject: Re: print queue name.= Message-ID: <d56d1c2d.0205191443.13af574a@posting.google.com>b  g Bitnissen <bitnissen@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<8dneeukroskfj6mp2elf5gjdudlmvpo2q3@4ax.com>...eF > On Sun, 19 May 2002 14:29:22 +0900, "David Lee" <phongle@kornet.net> > wrote: > L > >How/Where do I set and assign a queue name to SYS$PRINT so I can print it: > >without specifying a queue name everytime when I print? > >Thank you > > 
 > Hi David > ) > Try $define sys$print <your queue mame>s > ( > Add /system if you want it system wide  D As someone pointed out; only if you have the required privileges. IfC the person asking the question has the privileges then he should gorD talk to the person doing the system management. If he is that personF then he should sit down and have a look at the fine systems management7 manuals. Specifically the sections dealing with queues.   @ I believe the code behind "PRINT" looks for a SYS$PRINT queue byC default (lacking the /QUEUE qualifier). If it doesn't find one thenJ> you get some error message or other. SYS$PRINT should "define"F (logical of otherwise) a "system wide" print queue capable of handling5 the print load of the given production environment...    Joe    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 01:00:20 GMT ) From: rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz (Rob Buxton)b Subject: Re: Proxy question 1 Message-ID: <3ce849de.442359709@news.wcc.govt.nz>g  C On 15 May 2002 11:33:52 -0700, tadamsmar@aol.com (Tom Adams) wrote:.  h >"Rainer Giese" <giese@volkswerft.de> wrote in message news:<abtjiv$ku8e5$1@ID-138444.news.dfncis.de>...9 >> "Tom Adams" <tadamsmar@aol.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag 8 >> news:793af3df.0205150349.a04646@posting.google.com...  >> > If I add a proxy like this: >> > >> > add/proxy *::doe doe/dt  F Rather than *::doe doe /def you could specify the nodes. So, you'd set up several proxies.k nodex:::doe  /doe /def nodey::doe   /doe /def  $ and remove the *::doe doe/def proxy.  B This would then only allow access from  the nodes you had defined.: No reason to determine what other DECNet nodes are around.   >> >H >> > Then what determines what nodes can access the doe account and whatH >> > node can't access it?   Can any node that can do a set host to this8 >> > system access it.  What limit the set host command? >> uM >> A user doe from _all_ other nodes can access to the local nodes via FAL or N >> task-to-task without an explicit authorization. He will mapped to the local$ >> user doe by default. For example: >>   >> $ DIR remote_node:: >> r> >> will show the default directory of user doe at remote_node.O >> If you create a proxy like "add/proxy *::doe other" (without /default), theneG >> he must give the username, that he want to use remote, for example :  >> s >> $ DIR remote_node"OTHER"::e >> dK >> otherwise he will mapped to the default decnet account, if you have one.i >> bJ >> It has nothing to do with set host, after that you are always asked for >> username and password.o >eF >All nodes? How to I get a list of all nodes that can access the node?   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 01:36:29 GMTr) From: rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz (Rob Buxton)r2 Subject: Queue info via Web Server (Apache & WASD)1 Message-ID: <3ce850bf.444120842@news.wcc.govt.nz>    Hi All,h  D I've got a Web Page for our Frontline Staff that allows them to show; the full details of Printer Queues (either selected or all)-  A The problem I have is that the /Description label done during the\A Queue Init places the description within a couple of <> brackets.s  6 So, on VMS show queue /full shows the description like <Queue For Rob>y  @ Alas, when this comes to display on the Web Page the Description4 disappears, because it sees it as an HTML statement.  8 So the nice description gets translated to a blank line!  F I've tried with <PRE> and without but the display doesn't cough up the   description.  D I'm sending this via a GET then just running a Command Procedure via CGI.  
 Any hints?   TIA as always.   Rob.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 02:45:13 GMTkL From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr")6 Subject: Re: Queue info via Web Server (Apache & WASD)8 Message-ID: <00A0E2F6.281DB8E6@SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>  ] In article <3ce850bf.444120842@news.wcc.govt.nz>, rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz (Rob Buxton) writes:o >Hi All, >tE >I've got a Web Page for our Frontline Staff that allows them to showo< >the full details of Printer Queues (either selected or all) >eB >The problem I have is that the /Description label done during theB >Queue Init places the description within a couple of <> brackets. >s7 >So, on VMS show queue /full shows the description likeF ><Queue For Rob> >OA >Alas, when this comes to display on the Web Page the Description 5 >disappears, because it sees it as an HTML statement.y >t9 >So the nice description gets translated to a blank line!m >eG >I've tried with <PRE> and without but the display doesn't cough up thef >e
 >description.a >.E >I'm sending this via a GET then just running a Command Procedure via  >CGI.- >- >Any hints?-  N I think you're going to need to add another layer in this process to translateL the output; the angle braces are always going to be seen as a tag introducerH or terminator, so you need to encode them as &lt; and &gt; respectively.  G Either direct your SHOW/QUE output to a file and then run something (a eF TECO macro, if you don't feel like a Perl script or GNU SED) to do theG encoding and copy the result to the output, or use F$GETQUI to get the l8 information and massage it in DCL before you put it out.   -- Alano    O ===============================================================================-0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056aM  Physical mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 69, PO BOX 4349, STANFORD, CA  94309-0210 O ===============================================================================o   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 03:26:04 GMT L From: winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr")6 Subject: Re: Queue info via Web Server (Apache & WASD)8 Message-ID: <00A0E2FB.DD096BD8@SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>   In article <00A0E2F6.281DB8E6@SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU ("Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr") writes:s^ >In article <3ce850bf.444120842@news.wcc.govt.nz>, rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz (Rob Buxton) writes:	 >>Hi All,T >>F >>I've got a Web Page for our Frontline Staff that allows them to show= >>the full details of Printer Queues (either selected or all)  >>C >>The problem I have is that the /Description label done during theuC >>Queue Init places the description within a couple of <> brackets.. >>8 >>So, on VMS show queue /full shows the description like >><Queue For Rob>v >>B >>Alas, when this comes to display on the Web Page the Description6 >>disappears, because it sees it as an HTML statement. >>: >>So the nice description gets translated to a blank line! >>H >>I've tried with <PRE> and without but the display doesn't cough up the >> >>description. >>F >>I'm sending this via a GET then just running a Command Procedure via >>CGI. >> >>Any hints?   >iO >I think you're going to need to add another layer in this process to translatedM >the output; the angle braces are always going to be seen as a tag introducereI >or terminator, so you need to encode them as &lt; and &gt; respectively.   A What I forgot to say is that this is a consequence of emitting a   Content-type: text/htmlm  9 header; that's what tells the browser to try to interpret-M angle-bracket-delimited things as HTML tags.  (And the general agreement that I browsers will ignore tags they don't understand, intended to permit some gK backward-compatibility, causes it to just hide your description because it . doesn't understand it.)i  N If your application doesn't need typeface specified, images included, buttons,M etc - that is, if the SHOW/QUE report is okay, and the operators can use the c3 BACK button to get back to the menu - then issue a     Content-type: text/plain   header and all will be well.   -- Alano  O ===============================================================================v0  Alan Winston --- WINSTON@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDUM  Disclaimer: I speak only for myself, not SLAC or SSRL   Phone:  650/926-3056eM  Physical mail to: SSRL -- SLAC BIN 69, PO BOX 4349, STANFORD, CA  94309-0210pO ===============================================================================r   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 23:43:33 -0400o- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>a6 Subject: Re: Queue info via Web Server (Apache & WASD), Message-ID: <3CE870DE.1EEE59EF@videotron.ca>   Rob Buxton wrote:p8 > So, on VMS show queue /full shows the description like > <Queue For Rob>y  K Larry Kilgallen will hate this, but you could use javascript to work aroundiL this. Javascript has a function to convert a string to something that can beG written properly. I don't recall the exact function, but you could haveu something such as   8 One option is to parse the string and replace "<" with :  %        "&lt;" represents the < sign. -%        "&gt;" represents the > sign. r&        "&amp;" represents the & sign. &        "&quot; represents the " mark.      I though of suggesting:@  - document.writeln(escape("<Queue for Bob>")); @  I However, this converts the string for URL purposes (%xx) and not for HTMLeG purposes. There might be a javasscript function that does what you needo? though, and that might allow you to have all of the output as arE document.writeln() ; and not worry about any of the characters in it.t   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 00:40:31 GMTp) From: rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz (Rob Buxton)  Subject: Re: scsi clustert1 Message-ID: <3ce8448f.441000284@news.wcc.govt.nz>   F On Thu, 16 May 2002 11:00:51 GMT, "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com> wrote:  G >Trying to create a scsi cluster without documentation. (thru trial and  >error). >Openvms 7.2-1.  >bE >I have a DS10 with one scsi controller and an AS2100 with three scsi B >controllers. They both have ethernet, so that will be the clusterI >interconnect, but I want to connect to the DS10 to the HSZ70 that is nowyG >connected only to the 2100.  The HSZ70 is connected to the second scsivL >controller on the 2100, therefore the 2100 sees all the disks on the HSZ as >$1$dkB* >oM >But if I connect the only scsi adapter in the DS10 into the HSZ, it sees the  >disks as $1$dkA*.K >This won't work;  will it?  I would rather not re-configure the 2100, so t M >looks like I need to put a second scsi controller in the DS10 and connect to-/ >the HSZ that way.  Is this a valid conclusion?m    As far as I understand it - yes.A The only SCSI Cluster I set up was two AS2100s and, yes, each HSZ9C connected to the same controller (PKA to PKA and PKB to PKB on each 	 machine).tD You certainly don't want a device seen as $1$DKA0 on one machine and $!$DKB0 on the other!y  C Others have mentioned Allocation Classes, but that is NOT the issuel( here. The allocation class has been set.   Rob. >j >Thanks. >t >  >i >u   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 21:00:37 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) Subject: Re: scsi cluster-K Message-ID: <rdeininger-1905022100370001@1cust193.tnt1.nashua.nh.da.uu.net>.  O In article <3ce8448f.441000284@news.wcc.govt.nz>, rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz wrote:9  G >On Thu, 16 May 2002 11:00:51 GMT, "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com> wrote:/ > H >>Trying to create a scsi cluster without documentation. (thru trial and	 >>error).t >>Openvms 7.2-1. >>F >>I have a DS10 with one scsi controller and an AS2100 with three scsiC >>controllers. They both have ethernet, so that will be the clusteruJ >>interconnect, but I want to connect to the DS10 to the HSZ70 that is nowH >>connected only to the 2100.  The HSZ70 is connected to the second scsiM >>controller on the 2100, therefore the 2100 sees all the disks on the HSZ as 	 >>$1$dkB*r >>N >>But if I connect the only scsi adapter in the DS10 into the HSZ, it sees the >>disks as $1$dkA*L >>This won't work;  will it?  I would rather not re-configure the 2100, so tN >>looks like I need to put a second scsi controller in the DS10 and connect to0 >>the HSZ that way.  Is this a valid conclusion? >y! >As far as I understand it - yes. B >The only SCSI Cluster I set up was two AS2100s and, yes, each HSZD >connected to the same controller (PKA to PKA and PKB to PKB on each
 >machine).E >You certainly don't want a device seen as $1$DKA0 on one machine anda >$!$DKB0 on the other! >eD >Others have mentioned Allocation Classes, but that is NOT the issue) >here. The allocation class has been set.e  J I mentioned PORT allocation classes, which are not the same as traditional node allocation classes.  N I'm looking at "Guidelines for OpenVMS Cluster Configurations", version 7.2-1.  I Figure 6-14 shows an example where port PKB on node EDGAR and port PKC oniH node POE are connected to the same SCSI bus.  This is achieved by givingI each port the same port alloclass.  The alloclass in the example is 4, sohJ the disk on the shared SCSI bus is $4$DKA500.  Note the drive gets the "A"A controller letter, even though the host adapters are PKB and PKC.i   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 14:53:29 -0400m- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>i# Subject: Re: Stallards smoking gun!a, Message-ID: <3CE7F4A7.8FEA4385@videotron.ca>   david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk wrote:oP > HP-UX may have a large market share but it is not a good Unix. Tru64 is a much) > better Unix from a technical viewpoint.o  N Windows isn't worth the plastic the CP is made from, yet it has greater marketM share than anything else. Rats may not be as intelligent as humans, but thereYJ are more rats than humans on the earth and must be considered the dominant mammal on earth.  M > This may be true if you already use HP-UX. However by the same token it was J > natural for Compaq's VMS customers who wished to move to Unix to move toO > TRU64. Many did. However lots more went to SUN and IBM (and some even went tom > HP).  G Compaq didn't have VMS long enough to make such a huge difference in my3I opinion. My gut feeling tells me that when Compaq announced it was buyingfL Digital, hopes were high that Compaq would use the marketing saavy that madeN it the leading wintel maker to put VMS back into healthy growth. And I suspectQ that many VMS customers decided to wait a bit longer to see what Compaq would do.t  L 2 years ago, it was evident that the mass exodus had begun again when CompaqN seriously considered killing VMS. Marcello offered the "renaissance" which notL only stopped the exodus but also provided near double digit growth. And that3 probably kept VMS alive until June 25 of last year.r  G I would say that the vast majority of VMS sites migrated from VMS under K Digital. At that time, HP was still an enterprise vendor so I think that HPtA would have gotten its fair share of business. I know of one large N multinational who used to be almost all VMS and instead of migrating to Alpha,N they migrated to HP-UX because the accounting package management wanted didn'tN run on VMS but ran on Unix. They still have a vew VMS legacy applications leftM and I suspect that HP's recent announcements will make then start a migrationaL project to get rid of the last remnants of VMS. And since they are already aM big HP shop, it would be logical for them to move their remaining legacy appsa from VMS to HP-UX.  J Of course, if they are no longer happy with HP's service and products (andK fear downgrade in performance with IA64), then perhaps they will do as theyIL did with VMS: instead of migrating to IA64, they may migrate to Sun or IBM.   N > I don't think this will change. Application availability will push people to; > SUN. Performance and other factors will push them to IBM./: > HP-UX appears to be secondbest in just about every area.  L It depends on what they do with Tru64. *IF* they can integrate the good bits9 of Tru64 into HP-UX, this may improve HP's unix offering.j  Q > I seriously doubt many VMS users would consider moving to HP-UX rather than onecM > of the other Unix vendors - thats even without considering the bad feelingsm+ > concerning HP generated by recent events.9  N I agree that a VMS user with no ties to HP will probably choose anyone but HP,M unless HP makes offers that the accountants cannot refuse. The big problem istM that during the next 3-4 years, until HP has a viable IA64 unix, and until HPdN has integrated clustering into its Unix, HP won't be able to offer much to VMSN customers and I suspect that HP will see far greater attrition rate that Carly had publicly anticipated.h   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 16:00:05 -0400t' From: Glenn Everhart <Everhart@gce.com>n# Subject: Re: Stallards smoking gun!l' Message-ID: <3CE80445.DBAD2DB6@gce.com>l  G I did not say nor imply the CEO (with whom I at least am not on a firsthI name basis) made all the decisions. I do recall that at DEC, it was oftenlI pretty difficult to find the fraction of corporate profit being generatedSF by VMS; it appeared to be getting concealed. What makes you think thatI this history changed? Compaq also acted like a company convinced that thetJ PC business was the main line and all else was little perturbations. WouldG you expect figures that massively gave the lie to this to be evident toyI people not conversant with the details, particularly where those involved H might just feel worried about their jobs? How many of the 400 or 1000 orM whatever do you suppose were PC centric people whose reactions to suggestionsdN that Compaq's net profit from the PC business might have been tiny or negative could have been disbelief?  K I think that notions that the truth would become instantly apparent reflect*G improbable assumptions of how that kind of information gets propagated.S  K You can break down profits in all sorts of ways to obscure what is bringingd5 in the money, when there are motivated accountants...d  G Those fortunate enough to be on first name basis with the HP CEO may ofrD course know better from private knowledge. Were such representationsF truthful however, "...she would have..." language would be replaced byJ less speculative language.  I think my speculations are better than yours. Phbthbbbt! Nyaaaaa! :-) :-)o       JF Mezei wrote:  >  > Glenn Everhart wrote:n > >sI > > It seems likely to me that the HP folks knew almost nothing about VMSrH > > and considered it to be another flavor of Unix early on. Being a CEOB > > does not confer Deific (nor even angelic) intellectual powers. > M > I have to disagree with this.  Carly didn't make all the decisions. That istL > why there was an integration team formed initially of about 400 people andO > supposedly raised to about 1000 later on, according to what Carly said on TV.i > M > Considering that True64 and Alpha were one of of the "problem child" of the O > integration, and that they were part of the same group that also handles VMS, J > I find it very hard to believe that the integration team would have beenO > allowed to overlook VMS, unless whomever was being consulted for the businessM2 > critical Compaq stuff had an agenda against VMS. > I > Similarly, when Carly got access to Compaq's real books, she would have@N > required to see revenus/profits breakdowns on a product line by product lineM > basis in order to make the product roadmap decisions. Again, she would havea$ > seen the profits generated by VMS. > M > Consider that Carly made sure to say many times during and after the mergeruP > process that Tandem stuff was safe and that it serves stock exchanges etc etc.O > This means that someone did their job of educating Carly on the impossibilitynA > of cancelling Tandem. Who was in charge of doing this for VMS ?cA > Would it have been Marcello or his boss ? (was it Blackmore ?).P > D > > In short I think a lot of hoo-raw about foolish statements about4 > > conversion of VMS to phux\\\\HP-UX is premature. > N > You can ignore those signs if you wish. But to me, this was a tell tale sign > of what is to come.2 > L > > As for how VMS is marketed, actions speak louder than words. I hope they6 > > do better as part of HP than they did with Compaq. > O > You can wish all you want. But the only way to try to predict what HP will doaN > with VMS in the future is to look at their statements of directions. The oneF > constant theme is "we will continue Compaq's roadmap to maintain ourB > commitment to existing customers" (or something to that effect).O > This means no changes to marketing, reduced niche markets etc etc, as well asuG > a focus on not breaking commitments to existing customers. This showstB > absolutely no intentions of changing the way Compaq handled VMS. > M > Some time ago, there were many calls for Compaq to start to take enterpriseoJ > systems seriously. Marcello then let it be known to some of us to expectO > Compaq to change significantly and start to take enterprise systems seriouslytP > and that there would be a advertising campaign on TV to try to change Compaq'sO > image from a PC manufacturer to an enterprise company. Our hopes were all way-( > up. Imagine seing a VMS ad on TV !!!!! > P > Unfortunatly, Compaq's idea of enterprise computing was some .com company thatP > makes kites setting up their main data centre in a VW minivan and fill it with > wintel boxes.t > N > Right now, Intel maintains it monopoly on advertising by heavily subsidisingP > any advertising that ends with the damned intel logo and tune. This means thatM > it is far cheaper for Compaq/HP to advertise some wintel crap than it is to  > advertise a real system. > N > It won't be until VMS is commercially viable on IA64 that we can see whetherJ > HP will ever have any intentions of leveraging VMS's full potential. TheO > problem is that 4-5 years from now, without any advertising, with the looming N > death of Alpha, and a focus to send all new customers to PA-RISC, VMS may beP > terminally injured and we may never know if HP would have marketed VMS once it > was on Intel.- > N > In hindsight, I am starting to agree with Mr Dachtera,s calls for VMS on theL > 8086. Not for VMS to run on affordable boxes, but rather so that VMS couldO > have been marketed with funds partly paid by Intel. Imagine, you make VMS runDO > on 8086. Yo get "free" marketing paid by Intel, but when a customer walks in,SK > you convince him Alpha is much better. Ahhh ! That would have been great.e   ------------------------------    Date: 19 May 2002 14:29:20 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)# Subject: Re: Stallards smoking gun!l= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0205191329.238f7b17@posting.google.com>s  a JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:<3CE7F4A7.8FEA4385@videotron.ca>...n > P > I agree that a VMS user with no ties to HP will probably choose anyone but HP,O > unless HP makes offers that the accountants cannot refuse. The big problem iseO > that during the next 3-4 years, until HP has a viable IA64 unix, and until HP P > has integrated clustering into its Unix, HP won't be able to offer much to VMSP > customers and I suspect that HP will see far greater attrition rate that Carly > had publicly anticipated.e  ? what are you, dense?  vms is being ported to itanium, and alphaG: will be supported thru at least 2011 ... vms users are not; going anywhere, esp. to unix, no matter what is offered ...;= If you still don't understand this, I suggest you retake youre> 2nd grade reading comprehension class ... the roadmap has been5 announced and confirmed, it couldn't get any clearer!a   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 21:49:50 GMTw. From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter LANGSTOEGER)# Subject: Re: Stallards smoking gun!g3 Message-ID: <26VF8.64803$oG6.667606@news.chello.at>g  h In article <d7791aa1.0205191329.238f7b17@posting.google.com>, bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) writes:b >JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:<3CE7F4A7.8FEA4385@videotron.ca>... >> fQ >> I agree that a VMS user with no ties to HP will probably choose anyone but HP,tP >> unless HP makes offers that the accountants cannot refuse. The big problem isP >> that during the next 3-4 years, until HP has a viable IA64 unix, and until HPQ >> has integrated clustering into its Unix, HP won't be able to offer much to VMSsQ >> customers and I suspect that HP will see far greater attrition rate that CarlyL >> had publicly anticipated. >e@ >what are you, dense?  vms is being ported to itanium, and alpha; >will be supported thru at least 2011 ... vms users are not=< >going anywhere, esp. to unix, no matter what is offered ...> >If you still don't understand this, I suggest you retake your? >2nd grade reading comprehension class ... the roadmap has been 6 >announced and confirmed, it couldn't get any clearer!   Bob, what are you smoking ?e  " VMS users are not going anywhere ?+ Maybe you won't go anywhere, but the rest ?  Do you even know the rest ?s7 Unfortunately the VMS world is still/again declining...a  1 I did a *very short* survey (3 people) and asked:gP What do know of Alpha? Answer was: It's dead. (Note: Now, not in 2004/2006/2011)N Do you know that OpenVMS is currently ported to IA64 ? Answer was: No. Really?  O So, in short, IT COULD GET CLEARER and it must come very fast or it's too late..@ There is even a knowledge problem (despite the trust problem)...   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERu% Network and OpenVMS system specialist< E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atP A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm looking for (a) Network _and_ VMS Job(s)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 17:31:36 -0400h- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> # Subject: Re: Stallards smoking gun!y, Message-ID: <3CE819B2.A1599924@videotron.ca>   Glenn Everhart wrote: M > You can break down profits in all sorts of ways to obscure what is bringingn7 > in the money, when there are motivated accountants...0  M And it was very apparent that Compaq was doing this to its public numbers andfL had structured its business units so that Alpha based systems would make the# wintel server business look better.2  M However, when Compaq considered killing VMS, do you not agree that they would J have looked at the real number for VMS to make their decisions and decided- that the loss of revenue would be too great ?   L If HP did its due diligence, it would have seen those numbers. The fact thatL HP remained so silent on VMS during the merger soap opera can, in my opinion indicate 2 things:  H -long term decision for VMS was already made and HP didn't want to start4 giving hints because they would be seen as bad news. 	tK -HP had not yet made a decision on VMS and wanted to have greater access to * the books etc before formulating a policy.  E What is really needed is to get marcello drunk, and ask him if he was K consulted by the HP integration team about VMS or whether they decided VMS', fate without consulting him. m  D Just for fun, I did a search on deja news (google) with a subject ofM "marcello" and newsgroups alt.*. Found out that is was a web designer as wellrM as some famous italian porn star who appeared in playgirl and has had a greateN number of professions. Shirley one could blackmail the poor guy into revealingK what really happened during integration talks to result in Stallard issuing L his "we want VMS users to migrate to HP-UX" statement ?  :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) ;-) :-)0  Q (it helps to temporarily forget that marcello is a common first name in italy :-).   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 20:12:09 -0400M- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>># Subject: Re: Stallards smoking gun!u, Message-ID: <3CE83F52.CE154D3A@videotron.ca>   Bob Ceculski wrote:>A > what are you, dense?  vms is being ported to itanium, and alphai< > will be supported thru at least 2011 ... vms users are not= > going anywhere, esp. to unix, no matter what is offered ...t? > If you still don't understand this, I suggest you retake your @ > 2nd grade reading comprehension class ... the roadmap has been7 > announced and confirmed, it couldn't get any clearer!>  H If a customer has understood HP's message to mean that HP expects you toN migrate to Unix eventually, then customers will begin right away to migrate to5 unix and will stop building their VMS infrastructure.c  M What HP has emphasized is that they will continue to support VMS for existinglP customers so that there is no hurry to leave VMS, as there is for Tru64 and MPE.  L The point is that the minute a customer makes the strategic decision to stopL building on VMS, that customer will start to choose the replacement platformN on which the new applications will be built, and to which the VMS applications2 will slowly/eventually be ported little by little.  E A customer who decides *today*  what new platform should be chosen totM eventually replace VMS may not look too kindly at HP-UX. For one thing, until M it is available on a viable IA64, it is pointless to choose it, and until the N impacts of the integration of the bits from Tru64 is comfirmed, it is not 100%L sure that starting to build on HP-UX today wouldn't require changes later onL to stay on HP-UX, especially if you current application makes use of clusterY facilities not yet available on HP-UX but might become later on when Tru64 is integrated.   M I have yet to see from HP anything believeable about long term development ofaM VMS once the port is complete. All I have seen is a commitment to continue to.N develop VMS on Alphaservers until at least 2006 with only support afterwards.   N Consider that Windows NT/2000 was built on Alpha, but Compaq/Microsoft/whoeverN chose not to productize it. Consider the possibility that the VMS port will beN made to IA64 but that due to lack of demand, they decide not to productize it.L If customers show no interest in wasting their own money for the time/effortM to move to a new slower platform, then HP would be wasting money by commiting H to support another VMS platform for X years with the first sale on IA64.  J As long as HP leaves the door open for cancellation of VMS, then customersD will fear that possibility. And so far, the wording chosen by HP has! specifically left that door open.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 23:22:44 +0200d9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>n? Subject: TFTP (Was :Re: DECUS Lyon: Another VMS summary (long))o' Message-ID: <3CE817A4.BF30BAC8@aaa.com>a   John Santos wrote (about TFTP):p > ) > I'm not sure about UCX/TCPIP Services - @ > but if it doesn't exist, it should be easy to implement; after, > all the first "T" stands for "trivial" ;-) >    From TCPIP V5.0A TCPIP$CONFIG :w  +         DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for OpenVMSa,         SERVER Components Configuration Menu  s         Configuration options:                  ...                  ....                  3  -  TFTP           Disabled                  ...                  .../                  A  -  Configure options 1 - 17t                  [E] -  Exit menu  d Jan-Erik Sderholm   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 00:17:46 GMTu0 From: "Matt Muggeridge" <Matt.Muggeridge@hp.com>B Subject: Re: Traditional VMS NFS names vs. Extended Filename Parse@ Message-ID: <KgXF8.153279$o66.453207@news-server.bigpond.net.au>  K Support for extended file specifications was added to NFS server and cliente in TCP/IP V5.3.s  ' An extract from the V5.3 release notes:    ---- release notes extract ----V, 1.10.1 Enabling Extended File SpecificationsL Extended file specifications are provided by the ODS-5 file system. To mountL an ODS-5 volume, add the /STRUCTURE=5 qualifier to TCP/IP management command MOUNT. For example:a   $ TCPIPr$ TCPIP> MOUNT DNFS0: BOOK1 BEATRICE -2 _TCPIP> /PATH="/INFERNO" /HOST="FOO.BAR.EREWHON" - _TCPIP> /STRUCTURE=5 /SYSTEM  6 The /STRUCTURE qualifier accepts the following values:   5 to indicate ODS-5h! 2 to indicate ODS-2 (the default)o --- end ---w   Matt.t --= -------------------------------------------------------------a OpenVMS TCP/IP Engineering Enterprise Computing Group Hewlett-Packard Companyi Gold Coast, AUSTRALIA,= -------------------------------------------------------------a    : "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message- news:zY1JKr1kL36x@eisner.encompasserve.org...c? > Looking at the documentation for Compaq TCP/IP Services V5.1, C > I cannot find anything about getting rid of the name uglificationc >s& > DNFS2:[$R$EALLY_$U$GLY]$F$ILE.$N$AME >aA > even though I would expect it to be mostly unnecessary on Alphah! > with Extended Filename Parsing.a > & > 1. Is there something I am missing ?/ > 2. If not, do MultiNet or TCPware do better ?f   ------------------------------    Date: 19 May 2002 20:18:12 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)tB Subject: Re: Traditional VMS NFS names vs. Extended Filename Parse3 Message-ID: <zJ+XqbpZl3CI@eisner.encompasserve.org>n  s In article <KgXF8.153279$o66.453207@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, "Matt Muggeridge" <Matt.Muggeridge@hp.com> writes:tM > Support for extended file specifications was added to NFS server and clientr > in TCP/IP V5.3.i  L TCP/IP V5.2 is not even out yet.  The version on the March 2002 ODL is V5.1.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 00:23:36 GMTn) From: rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz (Rob Buxton)c6 Subject: Re: UCX server spuriously refuses connections1 Message-ID: <3ce83fd2.439787460@news.wcc.govt.nz>.  0 On Fri, 17 May 2002 12:44:54 -0700, "Lee Gillie"& <ANTISPAMIFICATION_lee@odp.com> wrote:  1 >This is under VAX/VMS V6.2, and UCX V4.2 - ECO 4e >vE >We have found for some time that client TCP connections, from NT forrJ >example, are being rejected.  This may happen only once or twice a month.I >But we have several custom servers like this.  It gets in this mood, and D >stays this way.  Stopping, and restarting the service program (portI >listener) usually doesn't help.  In fact, it has only helped once that IoM >have been told of.  Typically we are required to reboot VMS to make the portiM >accessible again.  We are using the Berkley style API from C++.  The serviceaG >application runs without error, but simply does not see the connectione1 >attempts.  Any clues where the problem could be?f >   0 When it stops, try UCX SHOW SERVIVE TELNET /FULL1 Check the Limit:   Active:  and   Peak:  figures.e  8 Have you reached the maximum allowed telnet Connections?  7 This can easily be increased if this is the case, e.g.   SET SERVICE TELNET /LIMIT=nnnl  3 You'll need to stop and restart the Telnet Service.h, Haven't got UCX 4, but suspect you could run- @sys$startup:ucx$telnet_shutdown and _startup   * Note: Don't do this from a Telnet Session!  F >TIA - Best regards - Lee Gillie, Online Data Processing - Spokane, WA >t >h   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 20 May 2002 10:41:34 +1000g< From: "Mark(un-MASK)Forsyth" <forsytMhm@optusAhome.cSom.aKu>E Subject: Re: VMS 7.3 upgrade problems - a bad workman blaming his tooi3 Message-ID: <3CE8463E.556D39DF@optusAhome.cSom.aKu>    WILLIAM WEBB wrote:o > > > It has been my experience that managing computer systems andA > rock climbing (that's alpinism to you Europeans) are activitiese> > in which you can get yourself out of just about anything you= > get yourself into if you take the proper precautions beforea- > doing anything and exercise good judgement.a   Equally true of skydiving.   > = > I used to climb, but I never skydived.  Not enough options.t  D There's plenty of options in skydiving when it all goes to shit. TheE trick is to choose the correct option while under a deal of pressure.i  g > # > Sounds like these folks skydived.l  : More like the wrong option was chosen under pressure...:-)   Oorooh	 Mark F...t  F (Over this past weekend I've been given a particularly hard time about7 my jumping and I'm a bit defensive about it ATM...:-) )b   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 19 May 2002 21:35:36 GMTc5 From: "Brad McCusker" <brad.mccuskerNOSP@Mcompaq.com>lW Subject: Re: Windows 2000 Server drops off the network after upgrading Advanced  Server 8 Message-ID: <IUUF8.2$r16.237615@cacnews.cac.cpqcorp.net>  6 "Rob Buxton" <rob.buxton@wcc.govt.nz> wrote in message) news:3ce059ee.3532779@news.wcc.govt.nz... G > On Mon, 13 May 2002 10:42:04 +1000, Jeremy <jeremy@vsm.com.au> wrote:p >h > >Hi, > >tL > >The local network has an AlphaServer DS20E running Advanced Server, and a PC# > >running Windows 2000 Server SP2.H > >lJ > >Until yesterday the VMS system was running VMS 7.2 and A/S 7.2, and theJ > >Windows 2000 server could map network drives to shares provided by VMS. > > J > >Since upgrading the VMS system to VMS 7.3 with Advanced Server 7.3, theL > >Windows 2000 server can no longer map to the VMS shares, and it can't see, > >any other computers on the local network.  K Is the browser running?  (PWRK$LMBROWSER process or ADMIN SHO SERV BROWSER)aL Is this server even running at all?  Did you run PWRK$CONFIG after doing the upgrade?  B > I'm running Pathworks 6.1. The transistion from 6.0 to 6.1 is, IF > believe, similar to AS 7.2 to 7.3. One thing I've had problems is PW; > Stopping because of exhausted KNBs, to overcome this I'ven  E Hmmm.. I think we have a fix for that. If we're talking about the KNBr session leak problem that is.h  A But, I also doubt this is related to the initial post's problems.n   Brad   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.277 ************************