1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 26 May 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 289       Contents:; Re: Another UK-based VMS System Manager looking for work... 4 Can I use OpenVMS Management Station in VMS V5.5-2 ?8 RE: Can I use OpenVMS Management Station in VMS V5.5-2 ? Re: cheapest VMS system in US P Re: Clustering VAX systems with IA-64 systems (was: Re: DECUS Lyon: Another VMS  Re: DECUS Lyon: some pictures  Re: DECUS Lyon: some pictures - Re: Expat anyone ? (was Re: xml and all that) . Re: HP doesn't listen any more than CPQ or DECE Re: HP is listening (was: HP doesn't listen any more than CPQ or DEC) , Re: HSG80 Mini-merge, will it be backported?, Re: HSG80 Mini-merge, will it be backported?( Re: internet address on a Decserver 90TL Name That Nooseletter  Re: Name That Nooseletter  Re: OpenVMS SNMP TRAP  Re: SHOW LOGICAL bug? # Re: [Change topic]:  USofA'an coins # Re: [Change topic]:  USofA'an coins # Re: [Change topic]:  USofA'an coins # Re: [Change topic]:  USofA'an coins   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:51:30 GMT 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> D Subject: Re: Another UK-based VMS System Manager looking for work...' Message-ID: <3CEFFCB8.F06DB2E9@fsi.net>    "Doc.Cypher" wrote:  > 8 > On Thu, 23 May 2002, Steve.Spires@yellgroup.com wrote:H > >Probably fairly futile advertising the fact here, but isn't that what > >'networking' is all about?  > >  > >;^D > > - > >Anyway, unemployed from the end of June...  > > J > >Someone said to me last night 'there's always a light at the end of the7 > >tunnel', thing is, I can't find the tunnel entrance.  > G > I got told that the light at the end of the tunnel is a taxman with a  > torch.  C Actually, due to budget constraints and the economic situation, the G light at the end of the tunnel is being turned off and sold for scrap -  effective immediately.  9 > >Still, every silver lining has a cloud and all that...  >  > Good luck on the job hunt.   Yes, good luck! Hang in there!   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2002 17:02:41 -0700- From: contracer11@uol.com.br (Shiva MahaDeva) = Subject: Can I use OpenVMS Management Station in VMS V5.5-2 ? = Message-ID: <ddf392ea.0205251602.6486010c@posting.google.com>   8 Can I use OpenVMS Management Station in VMS V5.5-2 Vax ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 18:22:00 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> A Subject: RE: Can I use OpenVMS Management Station in VMS V5.5-2 ? 9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIEEAGFBAA.tom@kednos.com>    From the web site:     Supported Configurations     OpenVMS Server Software   " OpenVMS VAX  Version 6.2 or higher  # OpenVMS Alpha Version 6.2 or higher    AND " Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS8 Version 3.2 or higher and optionally, DECnet for OpenVMS   >-----Original Message----- 5 >From: Shiva MahaDeva [mailto:contracer11@uol.com.br] % >Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 5:03 PM  >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com> >Subject: Can I use OpenVMS Management Station in VMS V5.5-2 ? >  > 9 >Can I use OpenVMS Management Station in VMS V5.5-2 Vax ?  >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). A >Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002  >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).@ Version: 6.0.363 / Virus Database: 201 - Release Date: 5/21/2002   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 14:22:26 -0500 4 From: "Jafir Elkurd" <jafir.no.spam@msn.no.spam.com>& Subject: Re: cheapest VMS system in US/ Message-ID: <uevp3dkohdped5@corp.supernews.com>   L Yes.  I paid nothing for my hobbyist license.  I paid about 50 dollars for a8 DEC 3000/700, and about 30 dollars for my copy of 7.2-1.  @ (you don't have to be a full member to get the hobbyist license)   So I am up to about $80.    5 "Baby Peanut" <baby_p_nut@yahoo.com> wrote in message 6 news:c5cf6e8.0205250937.73ce8702@posting.google.com...G > Seems that if you already have an IA32 PC you can run VMS on SIMH VAX  > ? > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3CC699E7.372%40vcn.bc.ca  > 3 > So the hardware is a no-cost item for most of us.  > 5 > An EncompassUS membership is $90 for an individual.  > 1 > http://www.encompassus.org/membership/join.html  > A > A VMS for VAX hobbyist kit is $30 (once they start selling them 	 > again.)  > - > http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/mount.html  > H > You do end up with a system with console-only access (no networking orH > X11 in SIMH yet) that you are not able to do any real work with due toE > the license.  Unless you have a big honking PC it will be slow too, C > but you get the benefit of zero additional footprint and hardware F > maintenance over your existing PC.  Can anyone beat a bottom line of& > $120 for a full OpenVMS V7.2 system?   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:12:39 GMT 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> Y Subject: Re: Clustering VAX systems with IA-64 systems (was: Re: DECUS Lyon: Another VMS  ' Message-ID: <3CEFF39B.7F8A407F@fsi.net>    Robert Deininger wrote:  > F > In article <acm1up$qjs24$1@ID-141708.news.dfncis.de>, "Peter Weaver"! > <peter.weaver@stelco.ca> wrote:  > B > >"Hoff Hoffman" <hoffman@xdelta.zko.dec.nospam> wrote in message' > >news:acc4tp$4j4$5@web1.cup.hp.com...  > >>... L > >>   I expect LANCP will be ported.  That said, we have not yet identifiedO > >>   customers that want to cluster VAX systems with IA-64 systems -- support  > >>...  > > L > >I hope you meant to say "not yet identified all the customers." The way IL > >read what you typed is that *NO* customers responded to the question thatJ > >was previously asked in OpenVMS Times. Either my reading is wrong, yourD > >statement is wrong, or something happened to the e-mail I sent toN > >openvmstimes@compaq.com on 30-JAN-2002. We canceled plans to go from VAX to< > >Alpha last June, the next step will be from VAX to IA-64.  H I trust you're prepared to wait the year or more currently scheduled for" commercial release of OpenVMS-IPF.  E Experience has shown that if you wait until the "next thing" is ready G for prime time, you'll never do it - there's always something to follow C the "next thing" that looks better. Look how many people waited for E Merced, are still waiting for Itanic, and will continue to wait until G Intel finally manages to pull off what Alpha did getting onto ten years  ago.   > We may need toB > >cluster some boxes during the transition to make things easier. > K > Your company should contact OpenVMS product management folks, directly or G > via an Ambassador, and make your needs known.  OpenVMS Times (now HPS I > Times) is not particularly focussed on VMS, and your message might have & > missed the people who should see it.  C Unless you're perpared to put Curly's kids, Carly's kids, and their D grandchildren's grandchildren through college and into multi-million- dollar homes, don't expect too much response.   B Oh, yeah - I forgot - no one thinks more than ten seconds ahead of themselves anymore these days.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:17:54 GMT 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> & Subject: Re: DECUS Lyon: some pictures' Message-ID: <3CEFF4D8.527F68F6@fsi.net>    "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:  > [snip]+ > Excellent shot of Rich M. pitching VMS to  > the masses, though!   @ DAMN! Now we if we could only get him to do that on U.S. soil...   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:17:25 GMT 1 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> & Subject: Re: DECUS Lyon: some pictures7 Message-ID: <pjSH8.257$YV2.411634@typhoon.ne.ipsvc.net>   < "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message! news:3CEFF4D8.527F68F6@fsi.net...  > "Terry C. Shannon" wrote: 
 > > [snip]- > > Excellent shot of Rich M. pitching VMS to  > > the masses, though!  > B > DAMN! Now we if we could only get him to do that on U.S. soil...  H That would be Mark Gorham's job. And he'll be busy doing just that on UKL soil on the 28th of this month. Unsure what's in the queue for presentations here in the USA, though.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 17:58:20 -0700 6 From: "Howard Taylor" <Howard.Taylor@pacificcoast.net>6 Subject: Re: Expat anyone ? (was Re: xml and all that)  Message-ID: <3cf0320d$1@nubby2.>  L > Another alternative could be expat, which looks OK, but I fall foul of the2 > total absence of support for 'configure' on VMS.L > I tried compiling directly - some modules were OK, but others were missing > some .h files.J > Has anyone done anything with expat on openvms, or know where to start ?F > I tried running configure on our Sun, to see what it creates, but it noticed * > the absence of a C compiler and gave up. >   I John A. Fotheringham did some work on porting the Gnome libxml library to J OpenVMS, and as apart of that project he did the port of expat to OpenVMS.C If you download libxml from the downloads page of Daniel Veillard's H www.xmlsoft.org you will find that you can extract the expat C code with( OpenVMS fixes and compile it separately.   Cheers, 
 Howard Taylor    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:41:55 GMT 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> 7 Subject: Re: HP doesn't listen any more than CPQ or DEC ' Message-ID: <3CEFFA79.32F472DC@fsi.net>    Dave Gudewicz wrote: > K > Found this today at hp.com, page 1.  New roadmap doc.  Has VMS in its own 3 > section, didn't before.  No mention of migration. 6 > http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/07may02b.htm > J > I call that progress.  Maybe due to some of us writing to the new powers
 > that be.  E I've been taking hormone pills that produce, aside from hot flashes,  G some very large mood swings. I've been in rather a funk for the last 36 ) hours. Your post almost made me ecstatic!   9 Thanx, Dave. You made my day (one day at a time, y'know).    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 21:05:19 GMT 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> N Subject: Re: HP is listening (was: HP doesn't listen any more than CPQ or DEC)' Message-ID: <3CEFFFF4.519E9B97@fsi.net>   $ "Webb, William W Raleigh, NC" wrote: >  > Speaking strictly for myself:  > 3 > As I said in previous posts, I sent someone at HP : > a polite note which contained various discussion points. > 4 > I got back a prompt, polite response which made it6 > quite clear that the recipient had not only read but6 > had thought about my points and had cogent things to > say about them.  >  >    They *are* listening.  C A response in writing is worth considerably less than a response in F action. They may be "listening", they may be "hearing" - they may even@ be responding, but what positive actions have been precipitated?  2 > I won't discuss specific content because it's my5 > general principle that private emails should remain . > private unless both parties agree otherwise.  F Well, general clues would suffice. You might also consider appending aA question: "Do you mind if I share your response, if any, with the % members of the Usnet news community?"   H You might say that doing so would reduce the chance of an answer - which$ underscores my point: talk is cheap.  0 > And, as I also said in previous posts, it's my/ > opinion that the more people send them polite 2 > emails which explain why VMS is valuable to what4 > they do, the more likely the chances are that they# > might grow the OpenVMS franchise.   H Patience is not infinite, however, and some here (like me) are well past patience's end.   / > It's just my opinion, but I think that the HP 2 > folks just don't know the history of what's gone/ > on from Palmerdom onward, and therefore don't 4 > have a grasp as to why these VMS people seem to be1 > so hypersensitive to everything that gets said.  > 5 > But if all they hear is bitching about the sentence 5 > structure of every pronouncement they make, they'll 1 > conclude that nothing they do will ever make us 4 > happy and they might as well let VMS die if for no" > other reason than to shut us up.  H Then again, it might also be said that, "Gee - these people are *REALLY*H pissed off! That may represent a tremendous opportunity! If we turn that= around, then brag about it," (i.e., "advertise") "how can our  competitors match that?"  E Oh, yeah - sorry, I keep forgetting: I'm the only one here who thinks D that way. Probably why I'm broke and still working for someone else.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:20:37 GMT 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> 5 Subject: Re: HSG80 Mini-merge, will it be backported? ' Message-ID: <3CEFF57B.FF1F8400@fsi.net>    "John E. Malmberg" wrote:  >  > David J. Dachtera wrote: > > ( > > Say, "Food and Drug Administration". > > ' > > Say, "Department of Public Health".  > >  > > Say, "certification".  > >  > > Are there any questions? > > < > > I am currently upgrading a Sunquest Lab machine to theirK > > latest-and-greatest: under V7.2-2 on an ES40. V7.3 certification is not L > > expected until circa this time next year. This upgrade I'm working on is> > > not expected to go into production until very late summer. > D > If the vendor of a system is not comfortable going with the latest? > release of OpenVMS, then by the same logic they also will not K > comfortable with implementing a non-manditory patch to the older release.   F ...but, if you re-read me again, the issue is not "comfort", the issueC is "certification", a very expensive and potentially extremely long  process.  H > For something like this mini-merge, you really do want to have as much > quality testing as possible.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:34:55 GMT 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> 5 Subject: Re: HSG80 Mini-merge, will it be backported? ' Message-ID: <3CEFF8D3.1F73BE96@fsi.net>    John Santos wrote: > / > On Thu, 23 May 2002, David J. Dachtera wrote:  >  > > John Santos wrote: > > > 3 > > > On Wed, 22 May 2002, David J. Dachtera wrote:  > > >  > > > > Rob Brooks wrote: 	 > > > > > l > > > > > In article <OFF40156AB.E20B313F-ON85256BC0.004833D1@metso.com>, norm.raphael@jamesbury.com writes: > > > > > > + > > > > > >  From the fibre channel slides:  > > > > > > W > > > > > >  A V7.3-1 TIMA will later provide HSG80 mini-merge capability and that will 2 > > > > > >  speed up merge operations quite a bit > > > > > > O > > > > > > Will this be back-ported to V7.2-2?  (Obviously we have the classic 0 > > > > > > 3rd-party software provider holdup.)	 > > > > > , > > > > > It will not be backported.  Sorry. > > > > / > > > > What would it take to make that happen?  > > > > M > > > > What's your price? (Read: "How many more VMS sites are you willing to  > > > > sacrifice?") > > > > P > > > > Executive types (read "decision makers") tend to take a dim view of such > > > > things.  > > > L > > > I tend to take a dim view of software that is so O/S version dependent7 > > > that it doesn't work across a simple O/S upgrade.  > > > H > > > V7.3 has been out for a year.  Is the 3rd party software known notG > > > to work with it, or has it just not been tested?  If so, did they H > > > test it with V7.2-2 (more recent than V7.3!) or are you making theG > > > assumption that if something is qualified with V7.2(-1?), it willsJ > > > work fine with V7.2-x (and with ECO's), but it needs to be re-tested > > > for V7.x (x>2)?E > > ( > > Say, "Food and Drug Administration". > >?' > > Say, "Department of Public Health".s > >g > > Say, "certification".t > >w > > Are there any questions? > >e< > > I am currently upgrading a Sunquest Lab machine to theirK > > latest-and-greatest: under V7.2-2 on an ES40. V7.3 certification is noteL > > expected until circa this time next year. This upgrade I'm working on is> > > not expected to go into production until very late summer. > >i > = > Have you completely lost track of the point of this thread,e   Quite obviously not.   > or? > would you like to run HSG80's with mini-merge enabled on yourC1 > system that requires FDA and DPH certification?    Yes.  ; > If so, would they let pass a drastic change to underlying 8 > stuff like the disk and port drivers and the shadowing8 > driver (as listed by Rob Brooks in another followup in8 > this thread), merely because the the principal version > number didn't change?t  ? Compliance is one issue. Dishonesty is something else entirely.r  7 > People who are stuck in the past due to certificatione: > requirements probably can't use HSG80's (or HSV110's) or! > ES45's or anything else new... t  D Well, actually, yes we can. We just can't use it the day it hits theH streets - perhaps a year to the day, maybe, if we keep a big enough fire+ going under the vendor to get it certified.'   > They're also why prior > version support exists.   F ...but it still discriminates (economically) against such environmentsG since prior-version support is more costly and does not provide a level C of service equal to current version support (bug fixes, engineeringe attention and so on...).  H Vendors need to be more sensitive to the customer's needs - then they'll/ have less cause to worry about their own needs.     > Norm (the OP) clearly isn't in5 > this category, or he wouldn't be asking about doingb > mini-merges on HSG80's.d  3 I, however, *AM* in that position; hence, the post.   9 > BTW, why if your customer (vendor?) needs to recertify,-8 > did they choose to do so on V7.2-2 instead of on V7.3,) > which was released earlier than V7.2-2?n  G Because of the cost to recertify on a major release versus a minor one.2  9 > Is it somehow less work to recertify on a point releasea# > than on a major or minor release?   1 Yes. Hence, less costly and less time-consuming.    G There are exceptions, of course. Blood bank by us is one example. SeemsnD to me, you have to completely recertify even if you just change your mind!L  6 > Maybe VMS should never release a V7.4 (or V8.0), but9 > make the next release be V7.2-3 (identical in every way 3 > with V7.3-1, except for the version number stringe3 > printed by "show system") and all future versionsf7 > be both V7.2-x and V7.3-y, where x=y+2, and increasesf > step without limit?g  H If that's consistent with the level of change in the release, perhaps. IF would think folks might eventually find certain drawbacks to trying toB push OpenVMS V7.2-3391560 through any kind of approval process, as; compared to Micro$hit, many generations removed from today.    --   David J. Dachterae dba DJE Systemse http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:06:23 GMTs1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>w1 Subject: Re: internet address on a Decserver 90TL2' Message-ID: <3CEFF223.6B9AAEA0@fsi.net>-   Peter Weaver wrote:  > B > "John McLachlan" <jmclachlan@nospam.draper.com> wrote in message: > news:jmclachlan-3EDBAC.14235917052002@news.draper.com...D > > > So, this is the system chosen to be replaced.  Is your company > publicallyD > > > traded.  I don't think I want to hold any of their stock.  Bad
 > management.r > >oC > > Actually, good management.    Back inthe days, VMS software wass
 > exhorbantlyoN > > expensive (dunno how it is now).   The 3rd part tools we used were upwards > ofJ > > $50K for just a compiler.   The same tools for a PC are 2-3K.  So it's	 > hard toa > M > Good management would have looked at the costs today. A single user license3I > on a VMS system is very competative with a single user license on a PC.o   Excuse me??!! Try again!!m  E I have *NEVER* seen on *ANY* price list a single-user VMS license formH $39.95 (WFW/3.11), $79.95 (W/95), $105.95 (W/98), $49,95 (a common Linux	 distro.).t  N > Management should not compare an unlimited user license on VMS with a singleN > user license on a PC, I've seen sales critters do that, but someone needs toL > tell management that the numbers they are being shown are comparing apples > and oranges.   At the very least!  N > Talk to the vendors, tell them that buying their product on a PC is going toM > cost you additional staff to babysit the PC's and also cost you in terms of1 > downtime.   A ...assuming you can get that concept through anyone's foot-thick,2 lead-lined skull!    -- r David J. Dachterae dba DJE Systemsm http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:47:14 GMT 1 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com>s Subject: Name That Nooseletter7 Message-ID: <6TRH8.252$YV2.402842@typhoon.ne.ipsvc.net>x  F "Mark(unMASK)Forsyth" <forsytMhm@optAushoSme.com.aKu> wrote in message/ news:C28BCA56A95C560FE5A4440D637E9646@plague...o >dA > "Robert Deininger" <rdeininger@mindspring.com> wrote in messagetG > news:rdeininger-2405021902160001@11cust83.tnt2.nashua.nh.da.uu.net...  >h > [deletia]  > >yJ > > Your company should contact OpenVMS product management folks, directly orI > > via an Ambassador, and make your needs known.  OpenVMS Times (now HPSnK > > Times) is not particularly focussed on VMS, and your message might haveo- >                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^e >sI > Well perhaps it should be called something more appropriate else peoplep getsF > the wrong impression and assume that OpenVMS Times _IS_ particularly > focussed on OpenVMS. >e  J The original OpenVMS Times *was* focused on OpenVMS. Back at the beginningK of the year, A Decision Was Made to broaden the focus of the publication to'A include what was then Rich Marcello's VMS/UNIX/Alpha/HPTC empire.n  K Then along comes the special issue of the Tru64 UNIX and OpenVMS Times fromnJ the New HP. Apparently this is a one-off issue and the HPS Times will liveE on. Perhaps with a name change, since HPS = Hewlett Packard Services.    cheers,s   terry su# no stranger to name changes hisselfs   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 17:06:50 -0700 (PDT)y. From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>" Subject: Re: Name That Nooseletter@ Message-ID: <20020526000650.63676.qmail@web20205.mail.yahoo.com>  6 > Then along comes the special issue of the Tru64 UNIX > and OpenVMS Times from4 > the New HP. Apparently this is a one-off issue and > the HPS Times will liven5 > on. Perhaps with a name change, since HPS = Hewlettc > Packard Services.e    . What about a MPE virtual machine running under OpenVMS ???? :-))))a/ This is too messy for me nowadays ! I just wantb2 to receive my salary next week ! For me was worse:  5 HP bought Compaq which bought DEC which bought Elebra/4 (in .BR) ! Ok I was not employee in that times, just customer ! 2   > 	 > cheers,m > 	 > terry sh% > no stranger to name changes hisself: > 6 Considering that Terry is a hibrid name (male/female).* No problem ! We respect your changes ! :-)   Fabio      =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!?0 Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 20:01:50 GMTn1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>r Subject: Re: OpenVMS SNMP TRAP' Message-ID: <3CEFF112.2B47C257@fsi.net>    Nancy Fink wrote:p > E > The SNMP authentication failure trap is only sent if the SNMP agentCF > receives a message that doesn't have a valid community string and/orH > IP address, so loading a patch or new version of TCP/IP Services won't2 > get you traps when a user's login attempt fails. > F > If you are looking for a way to send Security related OPCOM messagesB > as SNMP traps, you can write your own subagent to do this (not a > trivial matter)-  A It would be if there were a suitable command line utility with an 7 appropriate API for incorporating such into (whatever).   , (Attention freeware authors: Whaddaya think)  5 > or you may want to look at COMTEK's OPCOM subagent,e > which does this and more:  > 7 >            http://www.comtekservices.com/nmopcom.htm.f >  > Nancy Fink > COMTEK Servicesp  G Hint - hint - possible big seller to the VMS market, as well as UN*X...i   --   David J. Dachterat dba DJE Systemsn http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/u   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 18:44:27 GMT ' From: Jeffrey Chimene <jeff@nospam.net>  Subject: Re: SHOW LOGICAL bug?* Message-ID: <3CEFDC39.342C7539@nospam.net>  I > The way it came up was I was testing a development release of Perl withaI > an alternate I/O layer (what that is is indeed a different story).  OnepF > way of selecting these layers is defining PERLIO in the environment.I > Among the possible values are "stdio" and "perlio".  Obviously,  DEFINE:I > PERLIO "stdio" is not a problem, but DEFINE PERLIO "perlio" did present: > a problem.  M So they authors used logical names to control program behavior instead of DCLG  symbols? You have my sympathies.   -- microsoft free by 2003   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 25 May 2002 19:43:31 GMTf1 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com>r, Subject: Re: [Change topic]:  USofA'an coins7 Message-ID: <DPRH8.250$YV2.401602@typhoon.ne.ipsvc.net>t  9 "Paul Repacholi" <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote in messageo' news:87adqo9o1m.fsf@prep.synonet.com...i# > Roy Omond <Roy@Omond.net> writes:h >aE > > Yep, that's why I ended up with the gazillions of little coins inm0 > > the pockets.  I must have weighed a ton(ne). >iF > Funny, I had the same experience on the trans-channel ferry. 44 quidD > in schrapnel! The on board restrant was nice enough to take it and > return the `change' in BF. >eH > Worst thing with Greenbacks is that they are ALL green :( So you can't8 > to a quick wallet check with a glance along the edges.  J Continuing this off-topic adventure in things numismatic, word has it thatF the US Treasury plans to introduce coloured bills Reasonably Soon Now.@ Apparently 100s, 50s, and 20s are the prime candidates for first colourization.  K A shame that we can't emulate the Aussies and use multicolored, multi-sizednL folding currency made out of Mylar. The see-thru panel is a nice touch, too.   cheers,b   terry stF who still wonders why some British quid coins say DECUS on the side...   ------------------------------   Date: 25 May 2002 17:44:26 CDT= From: wayne@tachysoft.xxx.402120.killspam.0104 (Wayne Sewell)n, Subject: Re: [Change topic]:  USofA'an coins. Message-ID: <lX8vOTJR7loZ@tachxxsoftxxconsult>  V In article <3CEE997D.D756A20F@pacbell.net>, Don Sykes <annonymous@pacbell.net> writes:   [stuff about coins deleted]t   > R > I gotta disagree with that. I hate carrying coins around. They're heavy and makeO > clinky sounds when you walk with them in your pockets. I'd like to get rid ofe7 > them all and round all prices to the nearest dollar. t    O I despise cash in all forms, metal *and* paper.  Now that fast food places like O Arby's and such are starting to take credit cards, I use it less and less.  I'mr< working toward the day when I never visit an ATM ever again.     -- tO ===============================================================================eM Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738  wayne@tachysoft.xxxa: http://www.tachysoft.xxx/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html  K change .xxx to .com in addresses above, assuming you are not a spambot  :-) O ===============================================================================S= Society Lady:  Are you familiar with the Great Wall of China? 5        Curly:  No, but I know a big fence in Chicago!e   ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2002 21:49:12 -0700) From: P.Young@unsw.EDU.AU (Patrick Young)e, Subject: Re: [Change topic]:  USofA'an coins= Message-ID: <55f85d77.0205252049.1fab1f4d@posting.google.com>   a JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:<3CEEA643.16DDAFB8@videotron.ca>...dP > Australia and New Zealand both have the $2 coin much smaller than the 1$ coin.A > And they *seem* to be identical in size (at least the $2 coin).p > 7 > Australia doesn't have a $0.25 but have a giant $0.20b > M > Both countries were smart enough to get rid of the $0.01 piece and when you 5 > pay cash, the price is rounded to the nearest $0.05A  @ 1c and 2c both copper coins - both useless - glad they are gone.  G I personally hate the 5c coin, I also don't like the 20c coin (just got G given 4 of them buying the Sunday paper and some chips). I like the 10cgH and 50c coin. I don't like the $2 coin - too small. I like the $1 coin -G for some reason when they first came out (1984) to replace the $1 note,"4 when I was a kid, I bought $100 worth - gold colour.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 May 2002 22:37:16 -0700& From: jordan@ccs4vms.com (Rich Jordan), Subject: Re: [Change topic]:  USofA'an coins< Message-ID: <cc5619f2.0205252137.d0142bc@posting.google.com>  U system@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote in message news:<00A0E696.DC57866D@SendSpamHere.ORG>...rc > In article <AhzFd50yTkle@eisner.encompasserve.org>, young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) writes:sp > >In article <9f261edc.0205240546.56ab8dc6@posting.google.com>, tessier-ashpool@usa.net (Chris Bardell) writes: > >f > >>  C > >> Still haven't got all the Americanisms out of my vocab.  .....b > >> But at least I sayiG > >> Montana & Louisiana properly (instead of "montarna" & "louisiarna"nG > >> which really irritates me). When Clinton was in the White House, IiJ > >> even heard a UK newscaster pronounce "Arkansas" as it's spelled. Dear= > >> oh dear, 10 seconds research would have sorted that out.d > >> o > > F > >	You don't have to leave the country to get bizarre pronunciations.I > >	When visiting Pennsylvania and/or after moving back, it is surprising D > >	how many Penn. folks pronounce Illinois as "Ill-a-noise" instead > >	of the correct "Ill-a-noi" > > 
 > >				Rob >  >  > L > Ne'er heard that in all my years as a Penna. native.  Where did you happen > to hear that adulteration?  F All you need to know about Illinois is in the standard pronunciation. @ Ill.  Annoy.  Put them together and you have this unhappy state.   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.289 ************************tes: > > > > > > + > > > > > >  From the                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 