1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 27 May 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 291       Contents:F Re: Acrobat (Was: Re: Scott Stallard, forget your VMS to HP UX dream!)F Re: Acrobat (Was: Re: Scott Stallard, forget your VMS to HP UX dream!) Autostart telnetsym queues* Re: Bob the Gob huts my killfile (overdue)& Re: Compaq TCPIP folks killing OpenVMS& RE: Compaq TCPIP folks killing OpenVMS Re: DECUS Lyon: some pictures  Re: DECUS Lyon: some pictures  Re: DECUS Lyon: some pictures  Future of forms  Re: HP commits to VMS again ... . Re: HP doesn't listen any more than CPQ or DEC% Inquirer proves Capellas on the take! " Re: MacDynDNS and ADSL NAT Routers" Re: MacDynDNS and ADSL NAT Routers" Re: MacDynDNS and ADSL NAT Routers" Re: MacDynDNS and ADSL NAT Routers" Re: MacDynDNS and ADSL NAT Routers" Re: MacDynDNS and ADSL NAT Routers Re: More DECNET help please!!  Re: More DECNET help please!!  Re: pbxga-aa/an on PWS500au  Re: pbxga-aa/an on PWS500au 5 Sync on green with Elsa Gloria Synergy or Oxygen VX1?  Re: TCPware 5.5 & CSWS 1.2* RE: UK/EU OpenVMS job market: non-existant Re: Which Unix for VMS users ?# Re: [Change topic]:  USofA'an coins # Re: [Change topic]:  USofA'an coins   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 21:27:27 +0100 + From: "antonio.carlini" <arcarlini@iee.org> O Subject: Re: Acrobat (Was: Re: Scott Stallard, forget your VMS to HP UX dream!) & Message-ID: <3CF1452F.1010403@iee.org>   John Eisenschmidt wrote:   > Print Inhibit Security.  > 	 > Next =)   , AFAIK the security is just that the software- refuses to perform the actions you requested, + i.e. "it won't" not "it can't". Can you not , simply use (or write) a PDF reader that will( print (or extract to "unprotected" PDF)?  + If not, exactly how does the security work? , Given that your software (which, for sake of) argument, we'll assume you wrote yourself ) following the openly published specs) can * understand enough to put characters on the) screen, why can it not use that knowledge * to put said characters into an unprotected PDF?   Antonio      --     --------------- - Antonio Carlini             arcarlini@iee.org    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 17:48:13 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> O Subject: Re: Acrobat (Was: Re: Scott Stallard, forget your VMS to HP UX dream!) , Message-ID: <3CF1581A.558597E9@videotron.ca>   "antonio.carlini" wrote:. > AFAIK the security is just that the software/ > refuses to perform the actions you requested, - > i.e. "it won't" not "it can't". Can you not . > simply use (or write) a PDF reader that will* > print (or extract to "unprotected" PDF)?  N Which makes one wonder why Compaq/HP spaecifically set their documents so thatL we could not selct/copy text from them. If they are affraid that we would beL quoting their statements, then it means that they knew that their statements# were going to generate discussions.   M Perhaps Stallard put the inflamatory statements about migration to Unix there K on purpose: his bosses may not have believed that VMS customers would react M that way, so he wanted to prove to his bosses that this was in fact the case.   I And he put that into document not widely distributed, at the end in a Q/A I section. And yet, hoardes of VMS followers found it and disseminated that 0 information within hours of its being published.  N From now on, all of HP should be fully aware that they cannot dick around withL VMS customers and that we do read between the lines and cannot be fooled  by "don't worry" statements.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 20:02:25 GMT , From: "Steven Bourdon" <sbourdom@rgv.rr.com># Subject: Autostart telnetsym queues < Message-ID: <lbbI8.139887$Q42.6842542@typhoon.austin.rr.com>   Helllo,   G Using TCP/IP 5.1 is it possible to create AUTOSTART queues with devices H using the TELNETSYM? We have numerous IP printers and would like to haveH failover using the autostart feature.  I have looked around for info but' only see support for the /ON qualifier.   G Below is an excerpt from the doc's for TCPWARE where they seem to do it  through the use of a logical.    Thanks  
 Steve Bourdon  ---------------- TCPWARE Autostart Queue   H You can set up an autostart queue on a node that automatically starts upL again after it stops. You can also set up such a queue to autostart on other failover nodes.   H Starting an autostart queue requires the /AUTOSTART_ON qualifier for theJ INITIALIZE/QUEUE command. Since you cannot use /AUTOSTART_ON together withJ the /ON qualifier to initialize a terminal server print queue, you need toE define the TCPWARE_TSSYM_qname logical for this purpose. This logical ; defines the parameters normally set with the /ON qualifier.   ( The format of the logical definition is:  9 DEFINE/SYSTEM TCPWARE_TSSYM_qname "host,port[,option...]" C The format of the /AUTOSTART_ON qualifier (use the parentheses when  specifying multiple nodes):   # /AUTOSTART_ON=(node::[,node::,...]) ; Example 15-3 shows a typical command sequence to define the G TCPWARE_TSSYM_qname logical, initialize and start up an autostart queue L (QUEUE1) on two nodes, and enable autostart on these nodes. You can also addG the commands to your startup command procedure. Note that there are two < nodes: NODE2 can be a failover node in case NODE1 goes down.   Example 15-3- Command Sequence to Set Up an Autostart Queue > $ DEFINE/SYSTEM TCPWARE_TSSYM_QUEUE1 "192.168.25.50,2005,KEEP". $ INIT/QUEUE /START /PROCESSOR=TCPWARE_TSSYM -) _$ /AUTOSTART_ON=(NODE1::,NODE2::) QUEUE1 $ $ ENABLE AUTOSTART /QUEUES /ON=NODE1$ $ ENABLE AUTOSTART /QUEUES /ON=NODE2   ------------------------------    Date: 26 May 2002 11:33:46 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)3 Subject: Re: Bob the Gob huts my killfile (overdue) < Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0205261033.af5801e@posting.google.com>  Z p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) wrote in message news:<XVeCbi2I7nxi@elias.decus.ch>... > > K > > you can't really blame the ucx team as their hands have been tied since I > > Palmer, and they are trying to play catchup ... that's why until they L > > do you should be using TCPware or Multinet, although I would use TCPwareL > > permanently and it is the only IP stack for VMS based on the VMS kernel," > > and therefore runs crisper ... > , > Long overdue. You finally hit my killfile. > __ > Paul Sture
 > Switzerland   8 if you can't take the truth then you will live a lie ...) pretty neat, huh, I made it up myself ...    ------------------------------    Date: 26 May 2002 11:39:53 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)/ Subject: Re: Compaq TCPIP folks killing OpenVMS = Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0205261039.21b3e140@posting.google.com>   q "Non John Gemignani, Jr." <John.non.Gemignani@non.hp.com> wrote in message news:<3CE91BE4.47D21A69@non.hp.com>...  > Bob Ceculski wrote:  > >  > >> [CHIP CHIP CHIP]  > > K > > you can't really blame the ucx team as their hands have been tied since I > > Palmer, and they are trying to play catchup ... that's why until they L > > do you should be using TCPware or Multinet, although I would use TCPwareL > > permanently and it is the only IP stack for VMS based on the VMS kernel," > > and therefore runs crisper ... >  > What?  > ) > Where do you get your information from?  > ; I get my information from real world, real time testing and  experience ...    F "if you can't take the truth, then you will live a lie" ... Bob's rule   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 15:31:59 -0400 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> / Subject: RE: Compaq TCPIP folks killing OpenVMS T Message-ID: <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4023D909A@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>   Re: TCPIP V5.1 ECO 4  5 ECO 4 is now available at the main public patch site.   
 Reference:E http://ftp.support.compaq.com/patches/.new/openvms.shtml (Main Public  Patch site) H http://ftp.support.compaq.com/patches/public/Readmes/vms/dec-axpvms-tcpiF p_eco-v0501-154-4.README (readme file - one url that will likely wrap)   Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  Hewlett-Packard Canada! Consulting & Integration Services  Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@hp.com     -----Original Message-----3 From: Patrick Young [mailto:P.Young@unsw.EDU.AU]=20  Sent: May 21, 2002 11:58 AM  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com / Subject: Re: Compaq TCPIP folks killing OpenVMS     B "Non John Gemignani, Jr." <John.non.Gemignani@non.hp.com> wrote in. message news:<3CE91A67.647B74F0@non.hp.com>...J > I believe that the shared socket problem is the Apache accept problem=20G > on the shared BG device?  This particular problem had a fix but it=20  > failed  E That is the one. I've written a watcher for it that polls the servers F and fixes the problem when found (kills the subprocesses), however theF memory (socket) leak problem has become a real problem since I wrote aG discussion board program for our students. This has been under test for B the past couple of weeks on a couple of courses however has reallyG agitated the leak problem ... and you guessed it - other academics want  to add their courses.   H I'm currently at the point that I can't leave the computer for a weekend away since I can't trust it....   2         10002 mbufs allocated to socket structures  F That magic number is a show stopper and even kills my "Apache watcher"4 (PMDF seems to deal with it OK - keeps mail queued).  H Sorry if I seem a bit frustrated, however this release of TCPIP Services has been out quite some time.   E For the record ... there is _NO_WAY_ I'm giving anyone in my group or < Faculty the chance to say "Oh - you should be using LINUX or Window(tm)".  G So ... I'm watching it constantly at this time, which is kind of a life G style stopper. I could write a "TCPIP watcher", however too many things  hang off TCPIP Services.  D Many thanks for the update! - As I said, if I can help in any way to# test the patches please contact me.    ------------------------------    Date: 27 May 2002 03:20:03 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>& Subject: Re: DECUS Lyon: some pictures- Message-ID: <87y9e67m3g.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   3 "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> writes:   > > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message# > news:3CEFF4D8.527F68F6@fsi.net...  > > "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:   / > > > Excellent shot of Rich M. pitching VMS to  > > > the masses, though!   D > > DAMN! Now we if we could only get him to do that on U.S. soil...  J > That would be Mark Gorham's job. And he'll be busy doing just that on UKN > soil on the 28th of this month. Unsure what's in the queue for presentations > here in the USA, though.  J Just make sure he reads Sundays Inquirer first. Or takes Capellas out back( and does the long overdue rabid dog fix.   --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 17:58:34 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> & Subject: Re: DECUS Lyon: some pictures, Message-ID: <3CF15A86.1425ED1C@videotron.ca>   "Terry C. Shannon" wrote: M > Past performance may not be indicative of the future, but monitor HPQ press F > releases to see if they maintain the "Windows AND Linux" mantra thatE > materialized some months ago. If you see "AND Linux" get dropped...   F During carly's presenation on the day of the merger consumption, I wasG suprised at the emphasis on prorpietary unix discussions (Tru64, HP-UX, J Itanium, new sales would go to HP-UX) and there wasn't as much emphasis on Windows or Linux.   N My *guess* is that the rest of the board may have realised that Mr Hewlett hadM a very good point and that the fact that near 50% of shareholders agreed with = Hewlett, perhaps the board told Carly to adjust her strategy.   I Outside the board, Hewlett can probably cause more damage to HP than from  inside the board.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 21:14:23 GMT 1 From: "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> & Subject: Re: DECUS Lyon: some pictures7 Message-ID: <PecI8.504$YV2.850903@typhoon.ne.ipsvc.net>   9 "Paul Repacholi" <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote in message ' news:87y9e67m3g.fsf@prep.synonet.com... 5 > "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> writes:  > @ > > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message% > > news:3CEFF4D8.527F68F6@fsi.net...  > > > "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:  > 1 > > > > Excellent shot of Rich M. pitching VMS to  > > > > the masses, though!  > F > > > DAMN! Now we if we could only get him to do that on U.S. soil... > L > > That would be Mark Gorham's job. And he'll be busy doing just that on UKB > > soil on the 28th of this month. Unsure what's in the queue for
 presentations  > > here in the USA, though. > L > Just make sure he reads Sundays Inquirer first. Or takes Capellas out back* > and does the long overdue rabid dog fix. >   J Interesting INQ article. I simply do not buy into this "industry standardsL RULES" codswallop. You bet Micro$oft needs a partner to help it get into theC enterprise. But it's also important to note that another name for a , Microsoft Business Partner is "organ donor."  > What's the margin on VMS? North of 50 percent I would surmise.  I What's the margin on Wintel stuff? Much, much less... especially with the H delay of the Lightning II (second-generation ProLiant 8-way) pending the= arrival (HPQ hopes) of Gallatin chips by the end of the year.   K Past performance may not be indicative of the future, but monitor HPQ press D releases to see if they maintain the "Windows AND Linux" mantra thatC materialized some months ago. If you see "AND Linux" get dropped...    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 22:43:26 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>  Subject: Future of forms, Message-ID: <3CF19D49.85225516@videotron.ca>  I FMS is "mature" and doesn't get any more development and remains bound to  character cell only.  H Since I can't find documentation about DECforms on the VMS documentation< website, i assume that the product is also mature. (is it ?)  D If a customer wants to create a new application or update legacy FMSK applications on VMS, what technologies should he look into ? Are HTML forms L really considered adequate considering all the issues of keeping the context3 of a session etc etc (and the slow response time) ?   = Is one just expected to build your own UIL files and C code ?    ------------------------------    Date: 26 May 2002 11:50:46 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)( Subject: Re: HP commits to VMS again ...= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0205261050.5bea9ec8@posting.google.com>   Z David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu> wrote in message news:<3CE6F56A.54E738FB@caltech.edu>... > Russell Wallace wrote: > G > > Was there ever any doubt about this? It's been clear all along that - > > Fiorina agrees with Capellas on strategy.  > 7 > Yes, but what was never clear, and still isn't clear,  > is _why_ she agrees with him.   = probably the bonus checks they both receive along with Palmer  from Bill gates ...    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 18:44:30 GMT 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> 7 Subject: Re: HP doesn't listen any more than CPQ or DEC ' Message-ID: <3CF1307A.9C34C7ED@fsi.net>    Bob Ceculski wrote:  > u > "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote in message news:<aWzG8.63883$ah_.16113@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>...  > > M > > And for both h/w and s/w that's only binding for as long as the corporate O > > entity legally exists...so Bob, you better hope that HP doesn't go bankrupt 2 > > before 2006 else you'll never make it to 2011. > >  > B > so what, that would be the best thing that could happen possiblyD > for VMS ... maybe then I will buy it cheap at the courthouse thereC > in CA. ... how much do you think VMS would go for at the auction?   H Rather depends what their creditors are owed at that point, and how many? of those creditors send bidders to the auction, I should think.6   --   David J. Dachteram dba DJE Systemsp http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------    Date: 26 May 2002 12:06:53 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski). Subject: Inquirer proves Capellas on the take!= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0205261106.73091bbb@posting.google.com>e  6 this is on the inquirer ... what the guy willn't do to7 make a buck ... he says he wants the IBM model who sellr7 tons of proprietary os's, but trashes proprietary (vms)I8 then says only he can bring windoze to the high end, but6 kills NT 64 on Alpha so he can sell Alpha to Intel ...9 Were is the SEC on this one ... it's so obvious the guy'sp7 on the take that I'll bet he wears a "FOR SALE" sign ons! the back of his suit everyday ...o      Capellas' countdown to VMS woes   # The proprietariness of systems.... t) By the Framester, 26/05/2002 10:06:30 BST-  ? ON 12 MARCH 2002, Michael Capellas gave an interview to FortunetD magazine in regard to what was then only a proposed merger. The fullE text of this interview can be found here but for VMS people there ares$ just a few highly relevant comments.< "Customers are also no longer willing to pay for proprietaryE technology. They want industry-standard building blocks. The goal fore? HP/Compaq is to let Intel do microprocessor development, but to D optimize it, and be the number one partner for Oracle and Microsoft.> So we're creating a portfolio company around industry-standard components..."  C "Microsoft clearly needs a partner that can help take them into thefC ENTERPRISE [my caps]. It's not going to be Oracle, Sun, or IBM. AndtC Dell is still on the low end-it doesn't really have the engineeringID and services support to make it happen. For major moves, Microsoft's% traditional partner has been Compaq."   B This appears to leave little doubt about (a) what he thinks of the? sales potential for VMS and (b) the nature of the alliance withy Microsoft !r  @ The point about customers being unwilling to pay for proprietaryD solutions simply lacks credibility. IBM has had few problems sellingD proprietary systems. Any thoughts of it being a current malaise is aD nonsense because the sales of all hardware is lower in the aftermathB of the dot-com boom and bust, especially the sales of Unix systemsA from Sun and HP. It is significant to note that over the last fewuB years some major Unix sites have been moving to VMS, a point which7 would appear to contradict the statement from Capellas.t  B Any attempt to assign this factor to any reduction in VMS sales isF probably misplaced or at least significantly overstated. My experienceD with several companies leads me to believe that cost is not a factorF in any move from VMS but a lack of support from first Digital and then) Compaq has been the cause of the decline.C  @ Leaving aside the question of whether Windows is proprietary and< whether it is worth the cost, one needs to consider the mostD significant current requirements of any general purpose IT platform.A Any observer of the IT industry will tell you that the underlying F hardware and even the operating system have become unimportant to mostA customers because they are only concerned with the ability to rune
 applications.P  E The dominant requirement at the moment is for the ability to run JavarC applications because this software is free from dependencies on theoD operating system (making development and deployment so much easier).A Of course VMS can run Java applications, and it offers a superioro? environment to do so. It offers all the significant features ofr@ clustering and of Galaxies, and it has the proven speed of Alpha processors.   A One final point about VMS is that while the profit margin on this B product is not huge it is significantly better than margins on theF so-called standards of Unix and Windows. Most commercial customers areC re-assured by the fact that a company makes money from its productseB because it means that the company will still be around in 10 or 20B years. Conversely one should be concerned where profit margins are@ very low or even loss-making (as with Compaq's PC lines) becauseB simple business economics suggests that these product lines may be& dropped in the not too distant future.  B On his other point about Microsoft needing assistance to take themC into the Enterprise, it is with wry amusement that I recall that it D was Compaq who cancelled the NT-on-Alpha project. This project wouldE surely have increased Microsoft's exposure in the high-end and openedS@ doors to other opportunities. If my recollection is correct, theF dispute was over the financing of the porting project despite the fact= that it was a project with enormous benefits to both parties.l  C Now it will be Microsoft working with Intel (or AMD) to have 64-bitnF Windows capability and Compaq's role is diminished to simply providing: various software components, something that numerous other) organisations could also readily provide.n  > Capellas was CEO at Compaq on 20 August 1999 when it announcedB cancellation of support for Microsoft's 32-bit versions of WindowsB 2000 on Alpha. It was willing to support the 64-bit but a few daysC later, in a it-for-tat exchange, Microsoft said that due to lack ofeF support for the 32-bit version of Windows 2000, it was also cancellingF Windows 2000/64 on Alpha. I think Mike reported this when he was still Rogistering.  C Had Compaq continued to support Windows on Alpha it could well haveGF given Microsoft access to the Enterprise market but this move may have? greatly increased the exposure of Alpha technology and possiblyf: avoided any necessity to transfer the technology to Intel.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 15:02:54 -0400-- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>:+ Subject: Re: MacDynDNS and ADSL NAT Routers@, Message-ID: <3CF1315E.2765116D@videotron.ca>  $ Didier, there are 2 ways to do this:  L 1- Your router. Many routers have the capability to keep you address updatedI at a specific dyndns. For instance, I have a netgear NAT router, and if ItJ chose to, it could keep my address updated automatically at the dyndns.orgF site. This way, the machines on my lan need not bother with that task.  L 2- You could write a kermit script on your VMS host to go to your router andI have it display a panel that includes your current IP address, parse thatcG output, and then send an http request to the dyndns host to update yoursL address. The dyndns web site does provide documentation on the format of theT http request to do this. (again, you can use kermit to format and send the request).   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 20:54:56 +02000- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr><+ Subject: Re: MacDynDNS and ADSL NAT RoutersE' Message-ID: <3CF12F7F.E330012E@Free.fr>    "Doc.Cypher" wrote:  > G > On Sun, 26 May 2002, Frederik Meerwaldt <frederik@freddym.org> wrote:r > >Hi! > >t2 > >could you tell me what this has to do with VMS?' > >You just posted in comp.os.vms JFYI._ > J > In a rather roundabout way Didier is trying to get a VMS system onto theK > internet, but you're right he'd probably be better asking about MacDynDNS  > in a mac newsgroup.3  N Correct. There is a thread here that I started on 17 may 22:35 on DHCP and VMSL via an ADSL NAT router, and I choosed to start a new one as the question was' slightly different. But you are right. "  M > BTW Didier, If you have Perl on any of your machines I can provide you witht> > help to get a cjb.net address (eg morandi.cjb.net) working.   O Well, I do not think that I need such, because I have already a dynamic DNS viaoI www.dyndns.org/ My problem is really on how to have my dynamic IP addresse updated in their database.  $ > As to your ADSL router, what type?   EICON DIVA 2430 SE.s  ! (Soccer: France/South Corea: 3/2)    :-)c -- a2   ------------------------------------------------2 MORANDI Consultants  http://Didier.Morandi.Free.fr0   19 chemin de la Butte, 31400 Toulouse, France.2 Tel.: +33 (0)6 7983 6418 - Fax: +33 (0)5 6154 19282 OpenVMS, APPLE, Computer Security, Migration plans1 Visit: http://www.softresint.com/AlphaMigrate.htm 2 --------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------    Date: 26 May 2002 19:09:12 -0000= From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]>g+ Subject: Re: MacDynDNS and ADSL NAT RoutersV5 Message-ID: <20020526190912.4851.qmail@gacracker.org>e  C On Sun, 26 May 2002, Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> wrote:m >"Doc.Cypher" wrote: >>  H >> On Sun, 26 May 2002, Frederik Meerwaldt <frederik@freddym.org> wrote: >> >Hi!  >> >3 >> >could you tell me what this has to do with VMS?N( >> >You just posted in comp.os.vms JFYI. >>  K >> In a rather roundabout way Didier is trying to get a VMS system onto theaL >> internet, but you're right he'd probably be better asking about MacDynDNS >> in a mac newsgroup. >aO >Correct. There is a thread here that I started on 17 may 22:35 on DHCP and VMSnM >via an ADSL NAT router, and I choosed to start a new one as the question was ( >slightly different. But you are right.   K Yes, I participated in that thread, but some of the things you said in this  message confused me.  N >> BTW Didier, If you have Perl on any of your machines I can provide you with? >> help to get a cjb.net address (eg morandi.cjb.net) working. : >:P >Well, I do not think that I need such, because I have already a dynamic DNS viaJ >www.dyndns.org/ My problem is really on how to have my dynamic IP address >updated in their database.F  H I had a look at the Mac clients listed at DynDNS.org, there are no cluesE about how you would go about getting MacDynDNS to work with your ADSLeI equipment and the documentation for it is a .bin file which I assume is a?H format specific to the Mac. What you should be looking for is one of twoH things. A way to detect your current external IP address by querying theG ADSL modem, or a way to detect it by asking an external machine what IPnF address you are connecting from. This latter method is what I use with  cjb.net and it is very reliable.  % >> As to your ADSL router, what type?i >a >EICON DIVA 2430 SE.  J Sorry. As I mentioned this was getting a little confusing. I thought you'dI gone and bought a SOHO router or the like. From what I read I think it isAK stretching the definition a little to call this an ADSL router, it's closerD? to just being an ADSL modem that gives you a single IP address.   C From what you say the only problem you've got is getting the DynDNSaG software to work. Your Mac should probably be left to use DHCP with the J Eicon Diva. This is, as mentioned, perhaps best in a Mac group - or in oneJ of your local groups where you might find other Mac users who have already5 done this. As an alternative you could take a look athB http://www.dslreports.com. You might find some information on your equipment in there.e  ' Hope there's something of help in this.      Doc. -- s6 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.K ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.                             https://vmsbox.cjb.netd   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 00:01:09 +0200s- From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>p+ Subject: Re: MacDynDNS and ADSL NAT Routers ' Message-ID: <3CF15B24.DBD4DBC7@Free.fr>o   JF Mezei wrote:e > & > Didier, there are 2 ways to do this: > N > 1- Your router. Many routers have the capability to keep you address updatedK > at a specific dyndns. For instance, I have a netgear NAT router, and if IwL > chose to, it could keep my address updated automatically at the dyndns.orgH > site. This way, the machines on my lan need not bother with that task.  N I have no doc on the internals of the DIVA. The only option which seems usefulN for programming is - on its 192.168.1.1 Web page - a button which turns on/off remote management.  6 But remote management without doc... is no management.  N > 2- You could write a kermit script on your VMS host to go to your router andK > have it display a panel that includes your current IP address, parse thatNI > output, and then send an http request to the dyndns host to update youreN > address. The dyndns web site does provide documentation on the format of theV > http request to do this. (again, you can use kermit to format and send the request).   I'll investigate this.	 Merci JF.    D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 23:58:06 +0200 - From: Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr>U+ Subject: Re: MacDynDNS and ADSL NAT RoutersE' Message-ID: <3CF15A6E.B0B85DA1@Free.fr>_   "Doc.Cypher" wrote:O > ) > Hope there's something of help in this.n   Yes Sir. Thanks.    D.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 00:01:17 GMT ' From: Jeffrey Chimene <jeff@nospam.net>q+ Subject: Re: MacDynDNS and ADSL NAT Routersi* Message-ID: <3CF1781E.7C4AEE9F@nospam.net>   Didier Morandi wrote:   Y > The only option which seems useful for programming is - on its 192.168.1.1 Web page - ao > button which turns on/off: > remote management.  R Could you programattically TELNET to that IP address and parse the resulting HTML?   Just a thought.r   -- microsoft free by 2003   ------------------------------    Date: 26 May 2002 11:21:17 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)& Subject: Re: More DECNET help please!!= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0205261021.154f868a@posting.google.com>m  r Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.uofs.edu> wrote in message news:<20020522220822.H30144-100000@server2.cs.scranton.edu>...K > Now that I can at least "SET HOST" between my VAX and PDP I have run into,J > the next hurdle.  It seems I can copy from the PDP to the VAX if I am onK > the PDP. But I can't copy from the PDP to the VAX if I am on the VAX. And:J > worst of all, I can't copy from the VAX to the PDP (what I really needed  > DECNET for!!) from either end. >   A now wait a minute ... I remember having to use exchange from RSTS.= to VAX because of RMS issues (16 to 32 bit) ... but stream_lf. should be ok ...   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 20:36:35 +0200c) From: Bart Zorn <B.Zorn@xs4all.nospam.nl> & Subject: Re: More DECNET help please!!/ Message-ID: <3CF12B33.9010205@xs4all.nospam.nl>u   Bob Ceculski wrote: t > Bill Gunshannon <bill@cs.uofs.edu> wrote in message news:<20020522220822.H30144-100000@server2.cs.scranton.edu>... > K >>Now that I can at least "SET HOST" between my VAX and PDP I have run into J >>the next hurdle.  It seems I can copy from the PDP to the VAX if I am onK >>the PDP. But I can't copy from the PDP to the VAX if I am on the VAX. And2J >>worst of all, I can't copy from the VAX to the PDP (what I really needed  >>DECNET for!!) from either end. >> >  > C > now wait a minute ... I remember having to use exchange from RSTSi? > to VAX because of RMS issues (16 to 32 bit) ... but stream_lf: > should be ok ...  ? Why? The native file format of RSTS/E is stream, not stream_lf.   	 Bart Zorno   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 22:41:45 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>$ Subject: Re: pbxga-aa/an on PWS500au& Message-ID: <3CF14889.8030601@home.nl>  J Graphics cards should be placed in PCI slot 4 and/or 5 (the lowest slots).  C However you also have another problem. This is an extract from the . release notes of Open3D V 4.9B:y  G                  ________________________ Note ________________________e  B                  Compaq Open3D Version 4.4 was the last version ofC                  Compaq Open3D for OpenVMS Alpha that supported the-,                  following graphics devices:  8                  o  ZLX-E Series: ZLX-E1, ZLX-E2, ZLX-E3  0                  o  ZLX-L Series: ZLX-L1, ZLX-L2  0                  o  ZLX-M Series: ZLX-M1, ZLX-M2  <                  o  ZLXp-E Series: ZLXp-E1, ZLXp-E2, ZLXp-E3  G                  The ZLX-E, ZLX-M, ZLX-L, and ZLXp-E series devices are.D                  no longer supported by Compaq Open3D. There is bug-F                  fix support available for current versions of OpenVMSG                  Alpha. However, no software enhancements are available F                  for these devices. Device support for future versionsE                  of OpenVMS Alpha will be shipped for a limited time. G                  New workstations and/or operating system versions will "                  not be supported.  G ***********************************************************************7   And this is from The Wizard:  G ***********************************************************************d   Ask The Wizard:7% PBXGA-AA ZLXp-E1 Graphics Resolution?    The Question is:       Hello.  L How do I change the screen resolution of the CDE of an Alpha using a ZLXp-E1   Card?rC I have a Alpha 400Series, with OpenVms 6.2 and New Desktop V 1.2.4.i   Thanks.e       The Answer is :T    K    With the ZLXp-E* graphics controller held component-side upward and withtK    the stereo jack to the left, the four switches visible on the controllernI    module spine encode the graphics resolution.  The switches SW1 througheB    SW4 are oriented from left to right on the spine, respectively.  3      SW1 SW2 SW3 SW4   Pixel    Resolution  Refreshs4                       Freq(MHz)             Rate(Hz)1      D    D   D   D     130     1280x1024      72t1      U    D   D   D     119     1280x1024      66o1      D    U   D   D     108     1280x1024      60.1      U    U   D   D     104     1152x900       72p1      D    D   U   D      93     1152x900       66 1      U    D   U   D      75     1024x768       70 1      D    U   U   D      74     1024x768       72i1      U    U   U   D      69     1024x864       60 1      D    D   D   U      65     1024x768       60r1      U    D   D   U      50      800x600       72t1      D    U   D   U      40      800x600       60t1      R    U   D   U      32      642x480       72O1      D    D   U   U      25      640x480       60e1      U    D   U   U     135     1280x1024      75v1      D    U   U   U     110     1280x1024      60c1      U    U   U   U      --      Reserved      --   H    Up (U) and Down (D) are as viewed from the spine of the card with theJ    stereo jack on the left and the components upward, and where SW1 is the(    leftmost switch of the four switches.      - Answer written or last revised on 28-AUG-2001i    I *************************************************************************e    < So it seems your card is no longer supported I'm afraid ....   Regards,   Dirk          
 EdL wrote: > Hi there,  > 9 > I have a PWS 500au system but cannot figure out why the 2 > PCI graphics adapter PBXGA-AA/AN is not working. > 9 > Does anyone have the manual of this card, I really need C > to know the place of the card (PCI slot) and the jumper settings.p >  > Thanks in advance, Edwin >    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 27 May 2002 00:11:44 GMTa' From: Jeffrey Chimene <jeff@nospam.net>s$ Subject: Re: pbxga-aa/an on PWS500au* Message-ID: <3CF17A7E.1C0580CC@nospam.net>   Dirk Munk wrote:  L > The switches SW1 through SW4 are oriented from left to right on the spine, > respectively.t > 5 >      SW1 SW2 SW3 SW4   Pixel    Resolution  Refresht6 >                       Freq(MHz)             Rate(Hz)  O Does this explain why the XFree TGA display manager only supports one modeline?lI That is, a resolution change requires setting DIP switches and rebooting?    -- microsoft free by 2003   ------------------------------  + Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 23:07:35 -0500 (CDT)  From: sms@antinode.org> Subject: Sync on green with Elsa Gloria Synergy or Oxygen VX1?) Message-ID: <02052623073587@antinode.org>i  G    I currently have a ZLXp-E2 (PGXGA-BA) graphics card in my AlpSta 200iB 4/233, connected to an old (but otherwise nice, honest 19-inch) HPF (Sony) fixed-frequency RGB display with composite sync on green.  WithF this card, there's a console variable, "tga_sync_green", which appears+ to arrange for the composite sync on green.h  F    If I wished to change to an Elsa Gloria Synergy or Oxygen VX1 card,H is there any way to get the same composite sync on green, or am I doomed? to update the display or else tack on some lame sync compositore	 hardware?m  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------  C    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-9818  (voice, home)aC    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 763-781-0308  (voice, work) G    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547      (+1) 763-781-0309  (facsimile, work)e9    sms@antinode.org                sms@provis.com  (work)t   ------------------------------    Date: 26 May 2002 19:19:02 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)# Subject: Re: TCPware 5.5 & CSWS 1.2A= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0205261819.5ca92e51@posting.google.com>f  x "Martin Vorlaender" <martin.vorlaender@pdv-systeme.de> wrote in message news:<acqoc7$rk1d1$1@ID-56200.news.dfncis.de>...	 > Hi all,i > < > ever since having set up CSWS 1.0 I have observed that the= > web server becomes unresponsive now and then (once in threeo? > days up to a few times a day). No problem, I wrote a DCL/PerliB > script that probes the secondary addresses the virtual sites runE > under and restarts CSWS if it doesn't get a response in 15 seconds.o? > After installing CSWS 1.2 (including update 2.0) however, the9? > intervals at which my script triggers have gone down to everyt
 > 30 minutes!n > < > After reading that UCX has similar problems that had to do: > with the backlog queue, I set the BACKLOG_LIMIT to 4096. > No change. :-((u > ? > My configuration is rather unusual in that this is a two-node @ > cluster with a shared SCSI data disk (which holds the files ofA > the virtual sites as well as their CSWS log files). All virtualpB > sites are IP based, with the IP addresses defined /CLUSTER. CSWS@ > runs on both machines with the same shared configuration file. > : > Anyone has an idea what's happening, and how to cure it,7 > or at least how to get an idea of what's going wrong?  >  > Thanks in advance. >  > cu,0
 >   Martin  B this sounds alot like the problem we had w/tcpware and apache, andC it got to the point where we had restarts every 5 minutes and afterrD log analysis found out that broken pipes among other things were theC culprit ... I thought a patch had been put out, but maybe it didn'tnD do the trick ... that is why I told Q to buy Purveyor instead of theC "what's popular" unix garbage, but to no avail ... looks like I was  right!   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 16:01:08 -0400i' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com>o3 Subject: RE: UK/EU OpenVMS job market: non-existantcT Message-ID: <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4023D909C@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>   David,  C >>> Um, I wouldn't be so sure. The bulk of Cerner's stuff runs verye: happily on non-VMS platforms. Same with MiSys/Sunquest.<<<  D Cerner only runs on OpenVMS, AIX and Windows (for smaller stuff).=20  1 No other UNIX's - to the best of my recollection.i   Regards,  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultantc Hewlett-Packard Canada! Consulting & Integration Services7 Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax  :  819-772-7036 Email: Kerry.Main@hp.com     -----Original Message-----9 From: David J. Dachtera [mailto:djesys.nospam@fsi.net]=20a Sent: May 11, 2002 9:23 PM To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Como3 Subject: Re: UK/EU OpenVMS job market: non-existant      Steve Reece wrote: >=20" > I hate to disagree JF, but I do. >=20J > The decision of HP will make little difference to the places that are=20I > locked into VMS for some time to come.  If an organization likes VMS=20 H > and wants to use it then the setup that they have now will still stand  H > for the period that they have support from HP.  Those organizations=20J > that wish to move from VMS have already started, regardless of the HP=20+ > merger proposals, never mind the outcome.l >=20@ > VMS business to new customers grew by 17% last year.  These=20H > organisations aren't going to just drop their kit and run to Sun or=20G > IBM.  The companies that have dropped VMS (like at least two of my=20?I > former employers) already have their plans well progressed and being=20a > implemented.  G Um, I wouldn't be so sure. The bulk of Cerner's stuff runs very happilyr/ on non-VMS platforms. Same with MiSys/Sunquest.o  G At this point, it's their customers who demand VMS - and frequently areA> the ones who find and report major bugs that elude the vendor.  F Speaking from experience (major hospital concern in Chicago, lakefront near "Big John")...-   --=20- David J. Dachtera6 dba DJE Systems2 http://www.djesys.com/  H Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/   ------------------------------    Date: 26 May 2002 11:12:18 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)' Subject: Re: Which Unix for VMS users ?y= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0205261012.2dd26fb8@posting.google.com><  f young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) wrote in message news:<oG+lHdFwik9e@eisner.encompasserve.org>...z > In article <uOt2sFCErxu4@eisner.encompasserve.org>, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley) writes: >  > > O > > This means that unless BSD is perceived along these lines, then it may not rM > > be considered. Remember that in cases like this, what matters is what theC! > > reality is _perceived_ to be., > >  > H > 	You mean what matters most is what actually occurs.  Our perceptions  > 	may be flawed., > I > 	I wouldn't bet on BSD.  The Unix field is crowded enough as it is and gG > 	BSD certainly wouldn't be a tier 1 port on anyone's list of OSes to   > 	support.  > 	 > 				Robl >   D why would anyone in their right minds want to bet their business at E all ... with VMS, you don't have to bet your business ... if you riskwE your business, many times you will lose, then what?  Everyone here ins this thread is talking crazy!    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 26 May 2002 18:42:29 GMTs1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> , Subject: Re: [Change topic]:  USofA'an coins' Message-ID: <3CF13000.8ED4E5D7@fsi.net>u   "Terry C. Shannon" wrote:t > 5 > "Rich Jordan" <jordan@ccs4vms.com> wrote in messages8 > news:cc5619f2.0205252137.d0142bc@posting.google.com..., > > system@SendSpamHere.ORG wrote in message. > news:<00A0E696.DC57866D@SendSpamHere.ORG>...9 > > > In article <AhzFd50yTkle@eisner.encompasserve.org>,h/ > young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) writes:uD > > > >In article <9f261edc.0205240546.56ab8dc6@posting.google.com>,1 > tessier-ashpool@usa.net (Chris Bardell) writes:g > > > >  > > > >>G > > > >> Still haven't got all the Americanisms out of my vocab.  .....i > > > >> But at least I say K > > > >> Montana & Louisiana properly (instead of "montarna" & "louisiarna"sK > > > >> which really irritates me). When Clinton was in the White House, IsN > > > >> even heard a UK newscaster pronounce "Arkansas" as it's spelled. DearA > > > >> oh dear, 10 seconds research would have sorted that out.a > > > >> > > > >oJ > > > > You don't have to leave the country to get bizarre pronunciations.M > > > > When visiting Pennsylvania and/or after moving back, it is surprisingtH > > > > how many Penn. folks pronounce Illinois as "Ill-a-noise" instead" > > > > of the correct "Ill-a-noi" > > > >o > > > > Rob  > > >t > > >u > > >bI > > > Ne'er heard that in all my years as a Penna. native.  Where did you  > happen  > > > to hear that adulteration? > >-I > > All you need to know about Illinois is in the standard pronunciation.iD > > Ill.  Annoy.  Put them together and you have this unhappy state. > I > That about covers the Land of Lincoln. But what of Kansas and Arkansas?  > 8 > Why is Kansas "Kan-suhs" and Arkansas is "Ar-can-saw?"  ) What did Tennesee? Exactly what Arkansas.d  " What did Delaware? Her New Jersay.   --   David J. Dachterar dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/a   ------------------------------    Date: 27 May 2002 03:16:59 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>, Subject: Re: [Change topic]:  USofA'an coins- Message-ID: <873cwe90t0.fsf@prep.synonet.com>f  3 "Terry C. Shannon" <terryshannon@attbi.com> writes:o  D > Continuing this off-topic adventure in things numismatic, word hasF > it that the US Treasury plans to introduce coloured bills ReasonablyC > Soon Now.  Apparently 100s, 50s, and 20s are the prime candidatest > for first colourization.   A > A shame that we can't emulate the Aussies and use multicolored,tD > multi-sized folding currency made out of Mylar. The see-thru panel > is a nice touch, too.e  H Get them to add the Dutch `touch panel' embossed patterns for the vision& impaired, and it would be pretty good.  E The only problem I have had with them, is some times you get one thatjA tears with near no provocation. 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