1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 18 Nov 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 637       Contents: Re: Another press release 8 Re: Anyone using EVA/EMA and VOL Shadowing DRM solution? Re: Atlant's rants... % Re: Capellas was offered job by Gates  Imagine if....- Re: Installing DCE raises multithread caution - Re: Installing DCE raises multithread caution - Re: Installing DCE raises multithread caution - Re: Installing DCE raises multithread caution - Re: Installing DCE raises multithread caution - Re: Installing DCE raises multithread caution P Re: Is there a hobbyist program for other HP products? Was Re: What's   going onP Is there a hobbyist program for other HP products? Was Re: What's going on with P Re: Is there a hobbyist program for other HP products? Was Re: What's going on wP Re: Is there a hobbyist program for other HP products? Was Re: What's going on w Re: Jaw dropping EV7 systems Re: job scheduling in VMS  Re: job scheduling in VMS  Re: job scheduling in VMS  Re: job scheduling in VMS 1 Re: Primary home block anywhere other than LBN 1? 0 syntax for PJL commands in a vms form setup file5 Re: What EV am I running? (family name for processor) A Re: What's going on with the 7.3.1 VAX hobbyist kit at  Montagar? A Re: What's going on with the 7.3.1 VAX hobbyist kit at  Montagar? A Re: What's going on with the 7.3.1 VAX hobbyist kit at  Montagar?   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 17:41:48 -0600 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> " Subject: Re: Another press release' Message-ID: <3DD6D7BC.6192CF82@fsi.net>    Sue Skonetski wrote: > 3 > LJK/CDROM V1.0 supports RMS attributes on ISO9660  > 2 > November 11, 2002, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA > J > LJK Software announces the release of LJK/CDROM, a new product to format > F > ISO9660 volumes on VMS systems (VAX and Alpha, VMS V6.1 and higher). > F > Unlike previously available software for formatting ISO9660 volumes, > C > LJK/CDROM supports Section 6.10, Record structure, of the ISO9660  > D > specification, retaining information regarding RMS sequential file > D > record structure (fixed or variable length records) on the ISO9660 > G > volume. Furthermore, LJK/CDROM provides the Digital System Identifier  > D > honored by VMS V6.1 and higher to support RMS relative and indexed >  > files from ISO9660 volumes.   G My hat is off to Sue for posting this and especially to Larry for doing  it.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2002 17:13:43 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) A Subject: Re: Anyone using EVA/EMA and VOL Shadowing DRM solution? = Message-ID: <cf15391e.0211171713.7cced36c@posting.google.com>   x kuff@comcast.net (Cable NJ) wrote in message news:<E0B1CBB92A328474.A5CE4D24EFE201F0.57AA05DFBC149C3A@lp.airnews.net>...G > I'm looking for comments on sites using EVA SAN in two locations with I > Volumeshadowing as a DRM solution between the sites.... What throughput 9 > are you getting ... ATM or Fibre... for an inteconnect?   F Is your concern related to the performance of remote write operations,D or of Shadowing full-copy (or full-merge) operations?  The former is; more affected by inter-site latency, and whether or not VMS E MSCP-serving is involved; the latter is more affected by factors such D as inter-site bandwidth, number of simultaneous shadow-copy streams,C and the size of disk units shadowed (shadow-copying more of smaller F units in parallel is generally faster to complete than fewer of bigger units).   / What is the distance between the two locations?   C Were you planning on having an inter-site Fibre Channel SAN link in A addition to the SCS link required to form the multi-site cluster?   E If dark fibre is available between sites, you could run Fibre Channel F as an inter-site SAN link, or you could run Gigabit Ethernet (or FDDI)F over dark fibre, or you could run ATM over the fibre.  And you can useE Wave Division Multiplexing (WDM) equipment to run some combination of  these over a single fibre pair.   B Note that ATM also comes in different flavors, such as 155 megabit (OC-3) and 622 megabit (OC-12).    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 17:10:33 -0600 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>  Subject: Re: Atlant's rants...' Message-ID: <3DD6D069.5186B71A@fsi.net>   ! VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  > e > In article <3DD504E8.2D8762E8@mindspring.com>, Atlant Schmidt <atlantnospam@mindspring.com> writes:  > >  > > $ > >VAXman-, @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote: > > P > >> Cost-effective!  Competently-administered!  Surely you can't be considering( > >> the US gov't to be either of these. > > 9 > >Ahh, yet another "big lie", repeated often enough that  > >some fools believe it.  > > 9 > >Actually, more than a few government programs are very " > >arguably great success stories. > > 5 > >World War II comes to mind, as does the Eisenhower 3 > >Interstate Highway System as does most of NASA's 8 > >work until they decided that cheap-and-unreliable was" > >better than expensive-but-good. > H > Ah... NASA... The 4 hour, everyday CDRs... so much accomplished in theH > preceding day's remaining 4 hours that it requires review the next.  A4 > micro- and mis- management study at its very best. > G > And having work under contract to various agencies within the US DoD, H > civil servants reading (or more approriately, sleeping behind) a news-I > paper for hours at their desk is certainly efficient and cost-effective G > for the taxpayer.  Let's also not forget the virtual tenure for these 1 > black and white and read all over afficionados.   G Considering the state of the OpenVS job market, sounds like a good deal D to me: I was laid off in 2000 and 2001, expecting another about this
 time in 2003.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 19:42:25 -0500 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>. Subject: Re: Capellas was offered job by Gates/ Message-ID: <3DD6E5E0.C15FE064@vl.videotron.ca>    Alan Greig wrote: E > According to the New York Times, Microsoft offered to make Capellas 1 > No.3, adopting the title of President and COO."  > @ > Hey maybe he'll just strip down WorldCom first then merge with > Microsoft.  K No, I think I found out what the strategy is. Capellas will "visit" as CEO, K all major remaining VMS customers, force the dumping of VMS and replacement N with Windows crap, then leave as the company crumbles and go onto the next VMS9 customer. Once VMS is dead, he gets his job at Microsoft.    :-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 23:46:01 -0500 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> Subject: Imagine if.... / Message-ID: <3DD87082.D7F9FB82@vl.videotron.ca>   7 http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/021117/tech_ibm_gerstner_1.html   I Contains an interesting aruticle about Lou Gerstner and hwo he turned IBM M around. Interestingly, he got the keys to IBM in about the same time frame as  Bob GQ Palmer.  ? Now, imagine if Digital had hired Gerstner instead of Palmer...    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 01:54:54 GMT . From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter LANGSTOEGER)6 Subject: Re: Installing DCE raises multithread caution1 Message-ID: <OLXB9.4036$Kx4.86498@news.chello.at>   W In article <3DD7F5A9.5020506@spammotel.com>, Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com> writes: L >I wanted to install DCE (version 3.0) on my VMS Alpha 7.2 system to enable N >secure Telnet sessions to it over the Internet.  According to the docs, this M >version should install on the VMS version I have, but the post-installation  A >verification procedure thinks not.  During the test, I get this:   7 Any reason why you didn't already upgrade to V7.3[-1] ? , Did you use DCE$INSTALL.COM to install DCE ?   --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 02:54:42 GMT ( From: Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com>6 Subject: Re: Installing DCE raises multithread caution, Message-ID: <3DD85619.2020705@spammotel.com>   Craig A. Berry wrote: . > In article <3DD81870.6000601@spammotel.com>,, >  Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com> wrote: >  > F >>is there a way to "upgrade" my Hobbyist OS to use the POSIX Threads   >>library without upgrading VMS? >  > J > You've got pthreads, but you may want to check that you have the latest C > ECO and any prerequisites for your system applied (URL may wrap):  > K > <http://ftp1.support.compaq.com/public/vms/axp/v7.2/vms72_pthread-v0200.h  > tml> > F > N.B. This is general advice and I have no specific knowledge of the 3 > particular problem you are encountering with DCE.    Thanks, Craig.  Q I haven't had any experience so far with ECO updates, so I was a bit confused by  Q the description I found at the link you provided.  It states that before I apply  Q the ECO you refer to I must first apply another ECO named VMS72_UPDATE-V0100.  I  + used the Search box and it turned up empty.   N I also noticed from Hoff Hoffman in c.o.v. from 1999 that advised anyone with P VMS 7.2 to apply an ECO named DEC-AXPVMS-VMS72-SYS-V0100--4.  But it too is not K on the HP ECO site.  I must be misusing the Search facility, so if you, or  < anyone else, can point me to them, I'd really appreciate it.   Thanks,  Alder    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:49:43 +0100 2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender)6 Subject: Re: Installing DCE raises multithread caution; Message-ID: <3dd86357.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>   ) Alder (PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com) wrote:  > Craig A. Berry wrote: L > > You've got pthreads, but you may want to check that you have the latest E > > ECO and any prerequisites for your system applied (URL may wrap):  > > 8 > > <http://ftp1.support.compaq.com/public/vms/axp/v7.2/ > > vms72_pthread-v0200.html>  >  > Thanks, Craig. > F > I haven't had any experience so far with ECO updates, so I was a bitD > confused by  the description I found at the link you provided.  ItE > states that before I apply  the ECO you refer to I must first apply F > another ECO named VMS72_UPDATE-V0100.  I  used the Search box and it > turned up empty. > J > I also noticed from Hoff Hoffman in c.o.v. from 1999 that advised anyoneI > with  VMS 7.2 to apply an ECO named DEC-AXPVMS-VMS72-SYS-V0100--4.  But C > it too is not  on the HP ECO site.  I must be misusing the Search H > facility, so if you, or  anyone else, can point me to them, I'd really > appreciate it.  H The "V0100" in the ECO name is a version number (and the "-4" is the kitD type "patch"). There probably have been updates to the ECOs, so justI search for for the names "VMS72_UPDATE" and "VMS72_SYS", or even "UPDATE" 
 and "SYS".   cu,    Martin --  A                      | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer . Microsoft's answer   | work: mv@pdv-systeme.deA to OpenVMS is        |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/ 5 Windows NT 10.0.     | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:18:03 GMT ( From: Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com>6 Subject: Re: Installing DCE raises multithread caution, Message-ID: <3DD8696F.2070201@spammotel.com>   Peter LANGSTOEGER wrote:Y > In article <3DD7F5A9.5020506@spammotel.com>, Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com> writes:  > M >>I wanted to install DCE (version 3.0) on my VMS Alpha 7.2 system to enable  O >>secure Telnet sessions to it over the Internet.  According to the docs, this  N >>version should install on the VMS version I have, but the post-installation B >>verification procedure thinks not.  During the test, I get this: >  > 9 > Any reason why you didn't already upgrade to V7.3[-1] ?   I Stupidity or ignorance. :-)   Will I find it on my favourite Vienna site?   . > Did you use DCE$INSTALL.COM to install DCE ?   Sure did...several times :-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 22:33:19 -0600 7 From: "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.telocity.com> 6 Subject: Re: Installing DCE raises multithread cautionG Message-ID: <craigberry-D54AE3.22331917112002@news.directvinternet.com>   , In article <3DD85619.2020705@spammotel.com>,*  Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com> wrote:   S > I haven't had any experience so far with ECO updates, so I was a bit confused by  5 > the description I found at the link you provided.     	 Start at:   . http://ftp1.support.compaq.com/public/vms/axp/  H Then choose your OS version.  You'll get a directory listing with badly G truncated names but may be able to infer that the one you want is here:   I <http://ftp1.support.compaq.com/public/vms/axp/v7.2/dec-axpvms-vms72_upda  te-v0200--4.README>   B Or see the excellent and user-friendly site created by the Sydney  support center:   7 <http://ftp.digital.com.au/pub/ecoinfo/ecoinfo/top.htm>   < All patches for your system in order of installation rating:  7 <http://ftp.digital.com.au/pub/ecoinfo/ecoinfo/a72.htm>    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 05:12:28 GMT ( From: Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com>6 Subject: Re: Installing DCE raises multithread caution, Message-ID: <3DD875E1.1020401@spammotel.com>   Craig A. Berry wrote: . > In article <3DD85619.2020705@spammotel.com>,, >  Alder <PGDEHMKOKIMD@spammotel.com> wrote: >    > S >>I haven't had any experience so far with ECO updates, so I was a bit confused by  5 >>the description I found at the link you provided.    >  >  > Start at:  > 0 > http://ftp1.support.compaq.com/public/vms/axp/ > J > Then choose your OS version.  You'll get a directory listing with badly I > truncated names but may be able to infer that the one you want is here:  > K > <http://ftp1.support.compaq.com/public/vms/axp/v7.2/dec-axpvms-vms72_upda  > te-v0200--4.README>  > D > Or see the excellent and user-friendly site created by the Sydney  > support center:  > 9 > <http://ftp.digital.com.au/pub/ecoinfo/ecoinfo/top.htm>  > > > All patches for your system in order of installation rating: > 9 > <http://ftp.digital.com.au/pub/ecoinfo/ecoinfo/a72.htm>   " These are keepers.  Thanks, Craig.  4 Now if I can only avoid botching this too badly.....   Cheers,  Alder    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2002 22:06:11 -0800% From: Vilmos Soti <vilmos@vilmos.org> Y Subject: Re: Is there a hobbyist program for other HP products? Was Re: What's   going on * Message-ID: <8765uvfm3w.fsf@my.vilmos.lan>  3 "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:   F > The hobbyist license concept was acquired by HP when they bought theJ > remains of Digital Equipment Corp. under the "Compaq" moniker. DEC - andD > later the Q - had hobbyist license programs for VMS and Tru64 (fkaB > Digital UNIX). Until the merger, HP never had a hobbyist license
 > program.  . Thanks David, this is what I also thought. :-(   Vilmos   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2002 18:15:38 -0800% From: Vilmos Soti <vilmos@vilmos.org> Y Subject: Is there a hobbyist program for other HP products? Was Re: What's going on with  - Message-ID: <87lm3r7hdh.fsf_-_@my.vilmos.lan>    Hello,  D Does HP offer hobbyist license for other HP products other than VMS?D I looked around their homepage, but I didn't find anything relevant.I It seems this is an active newsgroup and people are aware of the hobbyist  program.  D I have a 712/80 parisc box lying around with HP-UX 9 on it and would= like to get a newer version so I can get familiar with HP-UX.   > It seems HP-UX 9 is already hopelessly outdated so there is no reason to learn it.    Thanks, Vilmos   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 20:45:28 -0600 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> Y Subject: Re: Is there a hobbyist program for other HP products? Was Re: What's going on w % Message-ID: <3DD85448.931FEB@fsi.net>    Vilmos Soti wrote: >  > Hello, > F > Does HP offer hobbyist license for other HP products other than VMS?F > I looked around their homepage, but I didn't find anything relevant.K > It seems this is an active newsgroup and people are aware of the hobbyist 
 > program. > F > I have a 712/80 parisc box lying around with HP-UX 9 on it and would? > like to get a newer version so I can get familiar with HP-UX.  > @ > It seems HP-UX 9 is already hopelessly outdated so there is no > reason to learn it.   D The hobbyist license concept was acquired by HP when they bought theH remains of Digital Equipment Corp. under the "Compaq" moniker. DEC - andB later the Q - had hobbyist license programs for VMS and Tru64 (fka@ Digital UNIX). Until the merger, HP never had a hobbyist license program.   --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 18:40:12 -0800 & From: Greg Cagle <gregc@gregcagle.com>Y Subject: Re: Is there a hobbyist program for other HP products? Was Re: What's going on w / Message-ID: <utgko9e0uivc89@corp.supernews.com>    Vilmos Soti wrote: > Hello, > F > Does HP offer hobbyist license for other HP products other than VMS?   Not that I am aware of.   F > I looked around their homepage, but I didn't find anything relevant.K > It seems this is an active newsgroup and people are aware of the hobbyist 
 > program. > F > I have a 712/80 parisc box lying around with HP-UX 9 on it and would? > like to get a newer version so I can get familiar with HP-UX.   A You can run HP-UX 10 on it. I have successfully run HP-UX 11 on a 9 similar vintage machine (735/125) but it's not supported.   @ > It seems HP-UX 9 is already hopelessly outdated so there is no > reason to learn it.   & I agree - 9.x was a long time ago 8^). --  
 Greg Cagle gregc at gregcagle dot com   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2002 17:39:18 -0800/ From: Brannon_Batson@yahoo.com (Brannon Batson) % Subject: Re: Jaw dropping EV7 systems = Message-ID: <4495ef1f.0211171739.1af7d36e@posting.google.com>   h Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message news:<miwZjoubOzoN@eisner.encompasserve.org>... > [snip]   > EV8 shouldD > have performed no worse that EV7, but the statement made by Compaq@ > was that EV8 would not have been sufficiently better than EV7.  E Ridiculous.  Why would we have been designing a new chip if it wasn't  'sufficiently' faster than EV7?    Brannon  not speaking for Intel   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 02:44:37 GMT & From: Some DBA <dba@spacespamlots.com>" Subject: Re: job scheduling in VMS1 Message-ID: <3DD853CB.1F20A676@spacespamlots.com>   
 "N.ws" wrote:  > H > would any one could give me an example of how to run a job (a command)9 > at a spcify time once a day? for example, my commnad is : > reply/all "The system will be out of service in 15 mins"H > at 5:45pm every day, i want to run this job as a notice for all users.C > what can i do in openvms? (i am very new in vms)thank you for you  > reply. > 	 > regards  >  > N.ws     $! Reschedule.com  $!8 $! this procdure sends a message to all users logged in   $! once every 5 seconds 10 times $! $cnt = 0 $loop:2 $reply/all/urgent "message......................." $wait 00:00:05 $cnt = cnt+1 $if cnt .eq. 10 then goto end 
 $goto loop $end: - $submit/after="tomorrow+17:45" reschedule.com  $exit  --   Regards,  6 Michael Austin            OpenVMS User since June 19847 First DBA Source, Inc.    Registered Linux User #261163 7 Sr. Consultant            http://www.firstdbasource.com E                           http://www.firstdbasource.com/donation.html / 704-947-1089 (Office)     704-236-4377 (Mobile)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 20:54:21 -0600 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> " Subject: Re: job scheduling in VMS' Message-ID: <3DD8565D.C4F4285F@fsi.net>   
 "N.ws" wrote:  > H > would any one could give me an example of how to run a job (a command)9 > at a spcify time once a day? for example, my commnad is : > reply/all "The system will be out of service in 15 mins"H > at 5:45pm every day, i want to run this job as a notice for all users.C > what can i do in openvms? (i am very new in vms)thank you for you  > reply. > 	 > regards  >  > N.ws  E In your procedure (.COM file), you'll need to do something similar to  the following:  7 $ proc = f$elem( 0, ";", f$environment( "procedure" ) ) ( $ submit/noprint/after="17:45+1-" 'proc'  D See the appropriate HELP topics. In fact, spend some time getting toE know the system through HELP. You'll find the F$xxx() functions under F "HELP Lexicals". See "HELP DCL_tips" for information on how to specifyG date and time expressions and others. On older VMS, this might be under  "HELP Specify".   H "HELP" is (very!) roughly analogous to "man" (the on-line manual pages).E See "HELP HELP" and "HELP Instructions" for information on how to use  HELP.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2002 04:21:44 +0100 2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender)" Subject: Re: job scheduling in VMS; Message-ID: <3dd85cc8.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>     N.ws (nws@fmo.esf.edu.hk) wrote:H > would any one could give me an example of how to run a job (a command)9 > at a spcify time once a day? for example, my commnad is : > reply/all "The system will be out of service in 15 mins"H > at 5:45pm every day, i want to run this job as a notice for all users.C > what can i do in openvms? (i am very new in vms)thank you for you  > reply.  I In OpenVMS, you run such commands through batch queues. You can see which  queues are available through     $ SHOW QUEUE /BATCH   9 The "standard" batch queue goes by the name of SYS$BATCH.   G Batch queues take command procedures. So you have to fire up an editor, G enter the commands you wish to be executed (don't forget to prefix them D with a dollar sign), and save them to a file, preferably with a .COM extension. Then you   E   $ SUBMIT /NOPRINT /QUEUE=somebatchqueue /AFTER="17:45" yourfile.COM   G This generates a job log file in your SYS$LOGIN directory. If you don't   want a log file, specify /NOLOG.  @ (There are more qualifiers to SUBMIT - check out  $ HELP SUBMIT)  I On the topic of restarting jobs on a fixed schedule: There is no built-in I mechanism in OpenVMS for that. So the batch procedure has to take care of F it itself. Inserting the following code in your command procedure will re-submit itself for execution:   %   $ self = F$ENVIRONMENT("PROCEDURE") E   $ self = self - F$PARSE(self,,,"VERSION")  ! Use the latest version H   $ SUBMIT /NOPRINT /QUEUE=somebatchqueue /AFTER="TOMORROW+17:45" 'self'  J Or check out my website for a procedure named SCHEDULE.COM which schedules batch jobs.    cu,    Martin --  G So long, and thanks        | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer 4 for all the books...       | work: mv@pdv-systeme.deK In Memoriam Douglas Adams  |       http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/ ;             1952-2001      | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 22:13:17 -0800 % From: Dean Woodward <deanw@rdrop.com> " Subject: Re: job scheduling in VMS( Message-ID: <3DD884FD.5090806@rdrop.com>   Some DBA wrote:  > "N.ws" wrote:  > H >>would any one could give me an example of how to run a job (a command)9 >>at a spcify time once a day? for example, my commnad is : >>reply/all "The system will be out of service in 15 mins"H >>at 5:45pm every day, i want to run this job as a notice for all users.C >>what can i do in openvms? (i am very new in vms)thank you for you  >>reply.  G Having gotten enough replies on how, I'm interested (monkey curiosity)  ; why he thinks he needs to take the system down every day...    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2002 16:20:22 -08001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) : Subject: Re: Primary home block anywhere other than LBN 1?< Message-ID: <cf15391e.0211171620.ef378cd@posting.google.com>  f jsewell@iu.net (Joe Sewell) wrote in message news:<9e311bd1.0211141115.700d0e59@posting.google.com>...C > According to Kirby McCoy's VMS File System Internals book, a home G > block can be on any of the 1+n*delta (where delta is calculated based  > on geometry).   F This has had to change with changes in disk and controller technology.  E Once upon a time, all disks had a fixed number of physical cylinders, D tracks, and sectors, which is referred to as their "geometry".  WithC the introduction of "zoned bit recording" (ZBR), disk manufacturers E took advantage of the increased surface area on the outer portions of @ a disk to store more sectors per track there.  As a result, diskF manufacturers had to start to "make up" plausible numbers to report toF operating systems as the disks' geometry values.  Also, today, you can< carve a specified number of blocks out of a controller-based@ storageset as a partition, and present those blocks to VMS.  TheE controller "makes up" some sort of "reasonable" values for cylinders, 2 tracks, and sectors and gives those values to VMS.  C Problems started when you initialized a "real" disk, and the backup B (sometimes called alternate) home blocks were placed based on that> disk's geometry (cylinders, tracks, and sectors), but then youC shadowed that disk to a zone-band-recorded disk or a partition on a A controller.  Now the number of blocks was still the same, but the E number of cylinders, tracks, and sectors reported might be different, D quite possibly preventing you from finding the backup home block(s),E because they would not be at the positions you would now expect based D on the new geometry.  For a while, as a result, Shadowing refused to? shadow two devices unless the values for cylinders, tracks, and  sectors were identical.   6 Then changes were made to the $INTIALIZE command (i.e.A /HOMEBLOCK=FIXED) so that backup home blocks could be placed in a E manner independent of the device geometry, and changes were also made : in $MOUNT so it could find those backup home blocks at theA geometry-independent location(s).  Once that functionality was in B place, Shadowing relaxed its restrictions and you could once againF shadow disks as long as the number of blocks was identical, regardless of the geometry values.   F > Will VMS detect a valid home block if the one on LBN 1 of the volumeF > is not a valid home block?  (My preliminary tests indicate it won't,* > but that contradicts McCoy's statement.)  B Yes, it should find one of the backup home blocks.  If it doesn't,  that arguably constitutes a bug.  A > I ask this because I'm working on a tool that needs to detect a G > Files-11 disk vs. a "UNIX" disk.  I've had to go to reading LBN 1 and D > doing a check, again based on McCoy's guidelines, for a valid homeD > block.  I'm wondering, though, if I need to scan 1+n*delta blocks, > just in case?   D You'll have to use a more up-to-date search algorithm if you want toD find the backup home blocks in all cases.  You'll have to handle all three cases of: 5    $INITIALIZE /HOMEBLOCK={GEOMETRY|FIXED|CONTIGUOUS} F /HOMEBLOCK=GEOMETRY gives the geometry-based behavior you already know about C /HOMEBLOCK=FIXED puts the backup home block(s) at something like an * offset of a prime number (1033?) of blocksF /HOMEBLOCK=CONTIGUOUS can be used in conjunction with /INDEX=BEGINNINGA to provide as large a contiguous space as possible.  For example, @ Host-Based RAID Software wants as large an area of uninterrupted5 contiguous space as possible for its container files.   B (Note that $INITIALIZE tends to fill a full cluster-size of blocksD with backup home blocks, rather than just doing one at a time (since9 it has to allocate the entire cluster of blocks anyway).)    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2002 13:47:42 -0800' From: grunzer@telusplanet.net (grunzer) 9 Subject: syntax for PJL commands in a vms form setup file = Message-ID: <fd03fe23.0211171347.38a16f2b@posting.google.com>   A Was wondering if anyone has had any experience setting up a fiery 8 print controller to allow the attached copier to staple.  B I have the PJL commands but am unsure as to how to use them in the form setup file.   I have tried the following:     <esc i.e. 27>%12345X@PJL COMMENT( @PJL COMMENT OUTPUTSTAPLE = ONEUPPERLEFT etc  etc ' <esc i.e. 27>%12345X@PJL LANGUAGE = PCL   D The copier will not staple in fact it appears to ignore the commands period. ! It looks like a matter of syntax.   - Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.    OpenVMS 7.1    ------------------------------   Date: 18 Nov 02 00:28:44 +0100) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) > Subject: Re: What EV am I running? (family name for processor)) Message-ID: <LcBkqdnJWYvH@elias.decus.ch>    In article <rdeininger-1711021429500001@1cust146.tnt1.nashua.nh.da.uu.net>, rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger) writes:H > In article <BqwBO699T0Px@elias.decus.ch>, p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul > Sture) wrote:  >  >>= >>I have just inspected a couple of emails that I sent my VMS @ >>system from work using Outlook. They too come with the headers? >>above. Outlook has been set to send "text only" messages (and > >>the checkbox is greyed out so I cannot change it), yet thoseB >>headers remain. The text however, _is_ straight unmolested text. > F > Is it really?  Text that doesn't contain the quoted-printable escape% > character "=" will usually look ok.  >   ? Yep, really, I am reading it on a VMS system, and it looks like  straight text to me.     I > A mail reader that knows how to interpret quoted-printable will convert 7 > the gibberish back to plain text when it displays it.    Can VMS MAIL do that?  --  
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 14:34:45 -0500 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)J Subject: Re: What's going on with the 7.3.1 VAX hobbyist kit at  Montagar?K Message-ID: <rdeininger-1711021434450001@1cust146.tnt1.nashua.nh.da.uu.net>   ; In article <3DD6D816.433FBBBB@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera"  <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote:   >Ken Robinson wrote: >>  8 >> At 05:46 PM 11/15/2002 -0600, news.charter.net wrote:N >> >This is VERY interesting; the "OpenVMS 7.3 new features and benefits" pageP >> >(URL: http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/os/v73features.html ) DEFINITELYD >> >mentions the VAX. The corresponding page for OpenVMS 7.3-1 (URL:M >> >http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/os/v731features.html) does not. Can P >> >someone point me at a roadmap showing HP's plans for OpenVMS VAX? Or is this >> >IT?  >>  / >> If you look at the newest OpenVMS Roadmap on I >> <http://www.openvms.compaq.com/> you will see VAX mentioned on page 11 K >> under "OpenVMS V8.2 (Topaz)" for ship in 2004.  That is the same release ; >> where the IA port is supposed to be ready for all users.  > I >The better question is: when, if ever, will IA64 be ready for all users?   J I heard that special code will be added to VMS to disallow users DACHTERA,G MEZEI, TODD, and a few others on IA64.  Everyone else should be in good  shape in two years or so.     ;-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Nov 2002 18:56:21 -0500 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>J Subject: Re: What's going on with the 7.3.1 VAX hobbyist kit at  Montagar?/ Message-ID: <3DD82C91.4B876540@vl.videotron.ca>    Robert Deininger wrote: L > I heard that special code will be added to VMS to disallow users DACHTERA,I > MEZEI, TODD, and a few others on IA64.  Everyone else should be in good  > shape in two years or so.   L No problem, I'll change my name to HOFF and instantly gain access to all theN hidden easter eggs and qualifiers that will magically become available :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)   ? I wonder what would happen if one user were named "HARRISSON" ?    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Nov 2002 21:25:32 -0800, From: JimStrehlow@data911.com (Jim Strehlow)J Subject: Re: What's going on with the 7.3.1 VAX hobbyist kit at  Montagar?= Message-ID: <4b6ec350.0211172125.128f2341@posting.google.com>s  @ To view a powerpoint presentation, try to download a viewer from& http://office.microsoft.com/downloads/ Product: PowerPoints [x] Converters and viewers etc.   Jim Strehlow, Alameda, CAe    i "Stuart Johnson" <ssj152 AT charter DOT net> wrote in message news:<utddc4t652uk41@corp.supernews.com>...E ...eH > I looked for roadmap(s) at the URL quoted and found only a power pointN > presentation, but I do not have powerpoint loaded. Is there another resourceL > that I could view or a way to convert the text of the powerpoint to ASCII? ...    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.637 ************************