1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 05 Oct 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 550       Contents:0 Re: "Underqualified tipster backed HP merger"...0 Re: "Underqualified tipster backed HP merger"... Re: 'hobbyist' vms! Re: Announcing WHOIS V1.5 for VMS F Re: Another security issue with the UCX POP server on older versions ? Re: Disable access log on CSWS Re: DLM questions ! Re: e-mail web client (SilkyMail) ! Re: e-mail web client (SilkyMail) ! Re: e-mail web client (SilkyMail) ! Re: e-mail web client (SilkyMail) ! Re: e-mail web client (SilkyMail)   Re: First 7.3-1 problem detected  Re: First 7.3-1 problem detected  Re: First 7.3-1 problem detected  Re: First 7.3-1 problem detected GEMBASE Bugcheck GEMBASE Bugcheck RE: mistakenly released rant... @ Re: My VMS Webserver book is available - missing acknowledgments@ Re: My VMS Webserver book is available - missing acknowledgments! Re: OpenVMS 7.3-1 Linker question ) Re: OpenVMS LPD x LAT Printers - HELP !!! + Re: Originator of detached process from DCL + Re: Originator of detached process from DCL  Re: tcp/ip == UCX  Re: UCX security advisory ! Re: WASD Security Advisory Issued ! Re: WASD Security Advisory Issued P RE: [security bulletin] SSRT2371 HP OpenVMS Potential POP server local vulnerabi  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 03:30:38 +0300* From: "Bill Todd" <billtodd@metrocast.net>9 Subject: Re: "Underqualified tipster backed HP merger"... Q Message-ID: <1037270357C4D411A1C900A0C9D4BFCB9F2D77@hqnts40div01.academy.kiev.ua>   : "Arne Vajhj" <arne.vajhoej@mail.tele.dk> wrote in message% news:3D9E1B7B.4040600@mail.tele.dk...  > Bill Todd wrote: > > > > "Arne Vajhj" <arne.vajhoej@mail.tele.dk> wrote in message' > > news:3D9E08F9.70202@mail.tele.dk...  > >>Bill Todd wrote:? > >>>"Arne Vajhj" <arne.vajhoej@mail.tele.dk> wrote in message * > >>>news:3D9DF915.5070806@mail.tele.dk... > >>>>Bill Todd wrote:E > >>>>>      - it's somewhat similar to a criminal injured during the  > >>>>>commission . > >>>>>of a crime complaining of being abused. >  > = > >>>>No - to continue your crime analogy, then you claim the 8 > >>>>rigth to do crimes against people, if you consider > >>>>them criminal. > >>>>2 > >>>>I am not aware of any civilized country that > >>>>permits that.  >  > J > >>>No:  I simply assert the right to use *reasonable* force (which would beH > >>>criminal if used without provocation) to prevent a crime already in progress > K > >>>from being carried out, and my understanding is that the legal systems 8 > >>>in most 'civilized' countries recognize that right. > >>> D > >>Action before crime commited = prevention / self-defence = legal > >>4 > >>Action after crime committed = revenge = illegal >  > K > > Action before a crime is touchy:  you really need to be able to *prove*  thatE > > the crime was about to be committed to avoid being found at fault 	 yourself. F > > Action after a crime is the responsibility of the duly-constitutedG > > authorities.  But what I said above referred to *reasonable use* of  force L > > *during the commission* of a crime to prevent its successful completion. > < > Actually the word "reasonable" and "prevent" was something* > that was not part of your original post. > = > That is something you have slipped in later. Likely because 4 > you realized that the original statement was a bit > too strong > 5 > But you could ofcourse not have mentioned it first, 3 > because it would make your anology look very poor ' > (since you did not prevent anything).   G Arne, you're a fucking idiot.  What I acted to prevent was Kerry's lies H being successful.  And while the word 'reasonable' wasn't included in myI original statement, neither was any suggestion that the injury was due to H *un*reasonable force being used (it could even have been due to no forceK whatsoever - e.g., slipping on an icy sidewalk while running to escape, the B maintenance of which would under other circumstances have been the8 responsibility of the owner of the house being burgled).   - bill         begin 600 Org_Mail_Info.txt = M#0H-"BTM+2TM4V-A;DUA:6PZ($]R:6=I;F%L($UE<W-A9V4@26YF;W)M871I = M;VXM+2TM+0T*1G)O;3H@0FEL;"!4;V1D#0I396YT.B`Q,"\P-2\R,#`R(#`S = M.C,P.C(V#0I4;SH@#0I3=6)J96-T.B!293H@(E5N9&5R<75A;&EF:65D('1I = M<'-T97(@8F%C:V5D($A0(&UE<F=E<B(N+BX-"@T*+2TM+2U38V%N36%I;#H@ = M4F]U=&EN9R!$;VUA:6X@26YF;W)M871I;VX@9F]R(%--5%`@;6%I;"TM+2TM = M#0I0871H.B!C87)R:65R+FMI978N=6$A;F5W<RYU87(N;F5T(6YE=W,N;F%S = M:RYP;"%N97=S+FUA;BYP;WIN86XN<&PA;F5W<RUF<F$Q+F1F;BYD92%N97=S = M+6UU93$N9&9N+F1E(6YE=W-F965D+G-T=65B97)L+F1E(6-O>"YN970A;FYT = M<#(N875S,2YG:6=A;F5W<RYC;VTA;FYT<"YG:6=A;F5W<RYC;VTA;FYT<#,N = M875S,2YG:6=A;F5W<RYC;VTA3F5W<RY':6=A3F5W<RY#;VTN4$]35$5$(6YO = M="UF;W(M;6%I;`T*3DY44"U0;W-T:6YG+41A=&4Z($9R:2P@,#0@3V-T(#(P = M,#(@,3DZ,S`Z,C,@0T14#0I&<F]M.B`B0FEL;"!4;V1D(B`\8FEL;'1O9&1` = M;65T<F]C87-T+FYE=#X-"DYE=W-G<F]U<',Z(&-O;7`N;W,N=FUS#0I2969E = M<F5N8V5S.B`\0D4U-D,U,$5!,#(T,3@T1$%&-#A&,$(Y030W1C5#1C0P,C-$ = M.3<R14!K86]E>&,P,2YA;65R:6-A<RYC<'%C;W)P+FYE=#X@/$=L:61N6'IK = M<4IQ;6-!0V=85%=C<$%`3F5W<RY':6=A3F5W<RY#;VT^(#PS1#E$1CDQ-2XU = M,#<P.#`V0&UA:6PN=&5L92YD:SX@/%)S>6-N96]4-TUM:VYG3V=85%=C,V=` = M3F5W<RY':6=A3F5W<RY#;VT^(#PS1#E%,#A&.2XW,#(P,D!M86EL+G1E;&4N = M9&L^(#Q39D-C;F,V.3DW=35J9T]G6%178V]!0$YE=W,N1VEG84YE=W,N0V]M = M/B`\,T0Y13%"-T(N-#`T,#8P,$!M86EL+G1E;&4N9&L^#0I3=6)J96-T.B!2 = M93H@(E5N9&5R<75A;&EF:65D('1I<'-T97(@8F%C:V5D($A0(&UE<F=E<B(N = M+BX-"D1A=&4Z($9R:2P@-"!/8W0@,C`P,B`R,#HS,#HS."`M,#0P,`T*3W)G 1 B86YI>F%T:6]N.B!M87EB90T*6"U0<FEO<FET>3H@,PT*6`==  `  end    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 15:48:12 +0200 @ From: Arne =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@mail.tele.dk>9 Subject: Re: "Underqualified tipster backed HP merger"... + Message-ID: <3D9EED9C.1000809@mail.tele.dk>    Bill Todd wrote:   > Arne, you're a fucking idiot.     - We all admire your sophisticated intellectual  argumentation !    :-)   G >                 And while the word 'reasonable' wasn't included in my K > original statement, neither was any suggestion that the injury was due to ! > *un*reasonable force being used       . You did not mention it => we assume you do not consider it relevant.    Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 5 Oct 2002 02:38:22 GMT 2 From: "Zane H. Healy" <healyzh@shell1.aracnet.com> Subject: Re: 'hobbyist' vms , Message-ID: <anljau02vhc@enews4.newsguy.com>  , David Webb <david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk> wrote:# > The first emulator produced was     @ > Charon-VAX from http://www.softresint.com/charon-vax/index.htm  M > There are both commercial versions and a hobbyist version of this emulator.   J From what I was told a couple days ago (admitadly not by them), apparentlyH they've decided to no longer offer a Hobbyist version of their emulator.  E For a good rundown on emulating DEC systems I'd recommend my website: , http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/decemu.html    			Zane    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 05:00:39 +0200 2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender)* Subject: Re: Announcing WHOIS V1.5 for VMS; Message-ID: <3d9e55d7.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>   . JF Mezei (jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca) wrote: > David M Smith wrote:+ > > $DESCRIPTOR(command_desc,command_line); J > > %CC-W-ADDRCONSTEXT, In the initializer for command_desc.dsc$a_pointer,D > > "command_line" does not have a constant address, but occurs in aC > > context that requires an address constant. This is an extension  > > of the language. > E > That is interesting. On my VAX, this was never an issue, and when I ; > compiled it on an Alpha, it was also not an issue at all.  > C > Do you use special switches on your compiler to make it even more  > pedantic ?  I It's probably the compiler version. With Compaq C v6.x you get the effect  when using /STANDARD=ANSI89.    > Look at what $DESCRIPTOR does:H > #define $DESCRIPTOR(name,string)        struct dsc$descriptor_s name =< > { sizeof(string)-1, DSC$K_DTYPE_T, DSC$K_CLASS_S, string } > " > so translated it would generate: > B > struct dsc$descriptor_s command_desc = { sizeof(command_line)-1,H >                                          DSC$K_DTYPE_T, DSC$K_CLASS_S,9 >                                          command_line }  > > > "command_line" was defined as a fixed size character array. - > (eg something like char command_line[255] ;  > / > Why should the compiler complain about this ?   C From the Compaq C Language Reference, Section 4.2 "Initialization":   G "Constant expressions must be used in an initializer for an object that D has static storage duration, or in an initializer list for an object% that has an aggregate or union type."   C Note that the message explicitely says "This is an extension of the C language." So, if you don't care about being portable (do you, when # using descriptors? ;-), no worries.   F As I like to have my code ANSI-clean (even when not primarily thinking% about portability), I usually include   -   /WARNINGS=(DISABLE=(ADDRCONSTEXT,DOLLARID))    in the CC command, or put   1   #pragma message disable (ADDRCONSTEXT,DOLLARID)    in the code.   cu,    Martin --  J One OS to rule them all       | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer7 One OS to find them           | work: mv@pdv-systeme.de J One OS to bring them all      |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/> And in the Darkness bind them.| home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 12:27:23 +1000: From: forMsytAhm@optusShome.com.aKu (Mark(un-MASK)Forsyth)O Subject: Re: Another security issue with the UCX POP server on older versions ? 8 Message-ID: <slrnapsjga.2tm.forMsytAhm@plague.bogus.com>  Y On Fri, 04 Oct 2002 16:07:28 -0400, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> gushed forth:  >"Mark(un-MASK)Forsyth" wrote:  >> Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE] >>   >> UCX$POP_SERVER.EXE;1 I >>                      [SYSTEM]                         (RWED,RWED,RE,R) T >>           (IDENTIFIER=[UCX$AUX,UCX$POP],ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE+CONTROL)K >>           (IDENTIFIER=[SYSTEM],ACCESS=READ+WRITE+EXECUTE+DELETE+CONTROL) + >>           (IDENTIFIER=[*,*],ACCESS=NONE)  > ) >Wouldn't it be simpler and faster to do:  > H >set file TCPIP$POP_SERVER.EXE/owner=TCPIP$POP/prot=(w,g,s:rwed,o:rwed)   D I didn't think of it. The first thing I did when I read about it wasJ to slap and audit ACE on the file so I could see who executed it in normalH use. Once I found that out it just seemed to follow that slapping an ACLH on it would be the way to go. Besides I was already in "edit/acl" to get ride of the audit ACE.   >      --       Ooroo 	 Mark F...   $ Another Optus Cable Traffic Monitor.3 http://www.members.optushome.com.au/forsythm/traff/    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Oct 02 13:49:23 +0200 ) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) ' Subject: Re: Disable access log on CSWS ) Message-ID: <RMKhszU5Ev0K@elias.decus.ch>   _ In article <00A14F3F.4437F4BE@SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes: e > In article <ankejt$eu3pe$1@ID-46415.news.dfncis.de>, "James Gessling" <jgessling@yahoo.com> writes:  > N >>Anyone know how to do this?  For our strictly internal web services it's notG >>necessary and keeps showing up in the performance data as a hot file.  > N > I assume your strictly-internal services are on different VirtualHosts than % > your externally-visible services.    > Q > The following advice is completely untested, since it never occurred to me that F > you wouldn't care who was accessing you or how many hits you'd have. > Q > Have you already tried removing all CustomLog directives?  While HTTPD.CONF has N > a default included, I don't think Apache feels compelled to log if you don't > tell it where to log to.   >   E Um. I just tried commenting out the CustomLog directive, and it still 9 created an access_log, and logged entries from localhost.   K > If that doesn't work, then within the relevant VirtualHost container, try  > $ > CustomLog /nla0/access.log  common > Q > (I haven't tried this, but if it works your performance program probably won't  2 > recognize any file on the null device as "hot".) >   O From my brief test, that appears to work, with errors still going to error_log, ! which is what is probably wanted.   O > I don't think there's been a special CSWS tweak to recognize /dev/null, which % > would be the Unix thing to do here.  >  >  --  
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 10:20:10 +0200 ) From: labadie <labadie.gerard@wanadoo.fr>  Subject: Re: DLM questions) Message-ID: <3D9EA0BA.D34B95B@wanadoo.fr>    Marty Kuhrt wrote:  , > VMS V7.1-2, Two AS 1000As, 1G memory each. >  >  > B > My second question has to do with PE1.  This determines the size@ > of the largest lock tree that can be moved.  How do you figure- > out the size of the lock trees on a system?    Hello    As $ monitor rlock  is available only with VMS 7.3 have a look at  > Example-C How to Monitor the Dynamic Lock Remastering ActivityU http://www.compaq.com/support/asktima/operating_systems/009F6DF1-BC7EC4E1-1C02A1.html    and   ;  Explanation Of Dynamic Lock Re-Mastering And PE1 Parameter U http://www.compaq.com/support/asktima/operating_systems/0096B379-A2137FC0-1C02A1.html      Regards    Grard   ------------------------------   Date: 5 Oct 2002 00:45:49 -0700 4 From: francesco.gennai@iat.cnr.it (Francesco Gennai)* Subject: Re: e-mail web client (SilkyMail)< Message-ID: <72f5654.0210042345.570287dc@posting.google.com>  p jlw@psulias.psu.edu (j.lance wilkinson, (814) 865-1818) wrote in message news:<anktaf$ddk@r02n01.cac.psu.edu>...[ > In article <aneq66$o4g$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>, david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) writes: v > >In article <72f5654.0210011225.4934b40b@posting.google.com>, francesco.gennai@iat.cnr.it (Francesco Gennai) writes:i > >>Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman@digital.com> wrote in message news:<3D996314.3C585889@digital.com>...  >  >  (David) ) I tried mailman from Endymion on OSU/VMS. > It worked, but there were problems in downloading attachments. They appeared corrupted.$ I didn't investigate on the problem.   (Mike)A I'm interested in a solution that will permit me to run a webmail  on OpenVMS. A I would avoid to manage an unix box just to have a webmail access + to my PMDF (POP (otionally) IMAP) accounts. > I pointed the attention of this newsgroup to Silkymail because0 I think that it should be a good solution (PHP).> Maybe it is not difficult for some of you to investigate about1 the possibility to run it on OpenVMS environment. I The folks at Cyrusoft  ( http://www.cyrusoft.com ) said me that it should  run on any PHP platform.J There shouldn't need any porting, but currently I haven't time to test it.  I Silkymail is derived from IMP that is considered one of the best webmail  % (please visit http://www.horde.org ).   K I think that HP or Process Software (or other...) should look at porting a  5 good webmail client like Silkymail or IMP to OpenVMS.   ! Hp... Process..... any comments ?   	 Francesco    
 > (David?)Q > >Try MAILMAN from ENDYMION see http://www.endymion.com/  this uses PERL and I'm P > >pretty sure others have run it on VMS in the past. It uses POP to access the  > >user's mailboxes. > H > 	I tried, without success, to get this to work on OpenVMS with CSWS.  F > 	There's just too many local assumptions made by Endymion it seemed. > E > 	I wound up using Netwin's WEBMAIL on a Tru64 box to access my PMDF ; > 	POPStore and VMS MAIL.MAI files using PMDF on OpenVMS.    > I > 	The Netwin folks DID indicate a willingness to work with me on porting H > 	their CGI script, webmail.cgi, to OpenVMS.  I just haven't taken themA > 	up on it yet.  For an educational site like me, it's less than F > 	$500/year as it is, and neither Tru64 or OpenVMS is going away here > 	for a while.  >  > R > +----"Never Underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of mag tapes"--+D > | J.Lance Wilkinson ("Lance")		InterNet:  Lance.Wilkinson@psu.edu > > | Systems Design Specialist - Lead	AT&T:      (814) 865-1818; > | Digital Library Technologies		FAX:       (814) 863-3560 4 > | 3 Paterno Library				"I'd rather be dancing..." D > | Penn State University		    A host is a host from coast to coast,M > | University Park, PA 16802	    And no one will talk to a host that's close E > | <postmaster@psulias.psu.edu>	    Unless the host that isn't close < > | EMail Professional since 1978	    Is busy, hung or dead.R > +---------"He's dead, Jim. I'll get his tricorder. You take his wallet."-------+; >                 [apologies to DeForest Kelley, 1920-1999] 5 > <A Href="http://perdita.lcs.psu.edu">home page</a>  L > <a Href="http://perdita.lcs.psu.edu/junkdec.htm">junk mail declaration</a> > --	/"\ > 	\ /	ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN > 	 X	AGAINST HTML MAIL  > 	/ \   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 05:08:23 -0400 - From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> * Subject: Re: e-mail web client (SilkyMail), Message-ID: <3D9EABF5.5E7A4FFA@videotron.ca>   Francesco Gennai wrote: # > Hp... Process..... any comments ?   G Usually, web email software is written to access locally stored email .   K From what was said, you want some web server software that will establish a G connection to another host's POP_SERVER, pickup those messages and then  convert them to web pages.  L I do not think that you will find such software readily available. There areM architectural limitatiosn of the pOP protocol which would make those not very Y well suited. (pop servers often don't permit you to be iddle for very long for instance).   N So you'd have one part that would download from POP to a local mail store, andH then standard web software such as YAHmail that takes the local mail and displays it via web.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 15:52:47 +0200 @ From: Arne =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@mail.tele.dk>* Subject: Re: e-mail web client (SilkyMail)+ Message-ID: <3D9EEEAF.7000901@mail.tele.dk>    JF Mezei wrote:   I > Usually, web email software is written to access locally stored email .  > M > From what was said, you want some web server software that will establish a I > connection to another host's POP_SERVER, pickup those messages and then  > convert them to web pages. > N > I do not think that you will find such software readily available. There areO > architectural limitatiosn of the pOP protocol which would make those not very [ > well suited. (pop servers often don't permit you to be iddle for very long for instance).    Hmmm.   1 Web-access to POP3-email is a standard feature of  almost all ISP's in Denmark.  + And all the software to do that I have seen ) has beeing using POP3 and not file access  to access the email.  / And it is not that difficult to implement: UIDL 1 to keep the messages for later download via POP3, 3 a timeout issue can be resolved by keeping username - and password in the web application and login  again when needed.   Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 5 Oct 2002 07:23:41 -0700 4 From: francesco.gennai@iat.cnr.it (Francesco Gennai)* Subject: Re: e-mail web client (SilkyMail)< Message-ID: <72f5654.0210050623.67e03af7@posting.google.com>  a JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote in message news:<3D9EABF5.5E7A4FFA@videotron.ca>...  > Francesco Gennai wrote: % > > Hp... Process..... any comments ?  > I > Usually, web email software is written to access locally stored email .    What ?  F Most of webmail CGI (at least the best like IMP ( Http://www.horde.org ),E SilkyMail ( http://www.cyrussoft.com ) and, just for example, many of  the 31 CGI listed here: H http://www.cgi-resources.com/Programs_and_Scripts/Perl/Web_Based_E_Mail/ works as I said.F There are also service providers that offer the access to a remote POPC mailbox from their remote web site. All of them use CGI the work as , IMP, SilkyMail, Mailman, AnyEmail, etc.....!   > M > From what was said, you want some web server software that will establish a I > connection to another host's POP_SERVER, pickup those messages and then  > convert them to web pages.  * Right ! There are a lot in Internet today.   > N > I do not think that you will find such software readily available. There areO > architectural limitatiosn of the pOP protocol which would make those not very [ > well suited. (pop servers often don't permit you to be iddle for very long for instance).    Please, see the above url.   > P > So you'd have one part that would download from POP to a local mail store, andJ > then standard web software such as YAHmail that takes the local mail and > displays it via web.   Francesco Gennai   ------------------------------  * Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 14:05:40 +0000 (UTC)+ From: david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) * Subject: Re: e-mail web client (SilkyMail)+ Message-ID: <anmrjk$ep4$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>   s In article <72f5654.0210042345.570287dc@posting.google.com>, francesco.gennai@iat.cnr.it (Francesco Gennai) writes: q >jlw@psulias.psu.edu (j.lance wilkinson, (814) 865-1818) wrote in message news:<anktaf$ddk@r02n01.cac.psu.edu>... \ >> In article <aneq66$o4g$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>, david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) writes:w >> >In article <72f5654.0210011225.4934b40b@posting.google.com>, francesco.gennai@iat.cnr.it (Francesco Gennai) writes: j >> >>Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman@digital.com> wrote in message news:<3D996314.3C585889@digital.com>... >>   >>   >(David)* >I tried mailman from Endymion on OSU/VMS.? >It worked, but there were problems in downloading attachments.  >They appeared corrupted. % >I didn't investigate on the problem.  >   O I did download mailman but didn't get around to configuring it before I'd heard H about Yahmail. My recollection was that I'd found out about mailman whenN someone had posted in a newsgroup about using it on VMS - I think with the OSU webserver.  J Did you check that the Mime types of the attachments were set correctly in the webserver ?       
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   >(Mike) B >I'm interested in a solution that will permit me to run a webmail >on OpenVMS.B >I would avoid to manage an unix box just to have a webmail access, >to my PMDF (POP (otionally) IMAP) accounts.? >I pointed the attention of this newsgroup to Silkymail because 1 >I think that it should be a good solution (PHP). ? >Maybe it is not difficult for some of you to investigate about 2 >the possibility to run it on OpenVMS environment.J >The folks at Cyrusoft  ( http://www.cyrusoft.com ) said me that it should >run on any PHP platform. K >There shouldn't need any porting, but currently I haven't time to test it.  > J >Silkymail is derived from IMP that is considered one of the best webmail & >(please visit http://www.horde.org ). > L >I think that HP or Process Software (or other...) should look at porting a 6 >good webmail client like Silkymail or IMP to OpenVMS. > " >Hp... Process..... any comments ? > 
 >Francesco >    >> (David?) R >> >Try MAILMAN from ENDYMION see http://www.endymion.com/  this uses PERL and I'mQ >> >pretty sure others have run it on VMS in the past. It uses POP to access the   >> >user's mailboxes.  >>  I >> 	I tried, without success, to get this to work on OpenVMS with CSWS.   G >> 	There's just too many local assumptions made by Endymion it seemed.  >>  F >> 	I wound up using Netwin's WEBMAIL on a Tru64 box to access my PMDF< >> 	POPStore and VMS MAIL.MAI files using PMDF on OpenVMS.   >>  J >> 	The Netwin folks DID indicate a willingness to work with me on portingI >> 	their CGI script, webmail.cgi, to OpenVMS.  I just haven't taken them B >> 	up on it yet.  For an educational site like me, it's less thanG >> 	$500/year as it is, and neither Tru64 or OpenVMS is going away here  >> 	for a while. >>   >>  S >> +----"Never Underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of mag tapes"--+ E >> | J.Lance Wilkinson ("Lance")		InterNet:  Lance.Wilkinson@psu.edu  ? >> | Systems Design Specialist - Lead	AT&T:      (814) 865-1818 < >> | Digital Library Technologies		FAX:       (814) 863-35605 >> | 3 Paterno Library				"I'd rather be dancing..."  E >> | Penn State University		    A host is a host from coast to coast, N >> | University Park, PA 16802	    And no one will talk to a host that's closeF >> | <postmaster@psulias.psu.edu>	    Unless the host that isn't close= >> | EMail Professional since 1978	    Is busy, hung or dead. S >> +---------"He's dead, Jim. I'll get his tricorder. You take his wallet."-------+ < >>                 [apologies to DeForest Kelley, 1920-1999]6 >> <A Href="http://perdita.lcs.psu.edu">home page</a> M >> <a Href="http://perdita.lcs.psu.edu/junkdec.htm">junk mail declaration</a> 	 >> --	/"\  >> 	\ /	ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN  >> 	 X	AGAINST HTML MAIL >> 	/ \    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 10:18:38 +0200 ) From: Bart Zorn <B.Zorn@xs4all.nospam.nl> ) Subject: Re: First 7.3-1 problem detected * Message-ID: <anm78u$caj$1@news1.xs4all.nl>   Dirk Munk wrote: > Dirk Munk wrote: >  >> Well, my first problem :-)  >>I >> I was trying to startup Apache T1.3 (which worked fine in 7.3) and it  ! >> stopped with an error message.  >>D >> This is what is happening now in the Apache startup command file: >>K >> $       create /name_table/nolog/executive/parent=lnm$system_directory - G >>               /protection=(system:rwed,owner:rwed,group:r,world:r) - % >>               apache$logical_names > >> $       set acl /nolog/new/object_type=logical_name_table -C >>               /acl=(identifier=[apache$www],access=read+write) - % >>               apache$logical_names 7 >> %SYSTEM-F-NOLOGTAB, no logical name table name match  >>. >> The table is there, so what is wrong here ? >> >  > some more information: > J > edit /acl has the same problem. It seems that it is not possible to add G > a acl entry to any logical name table that has a parent. So only the  K > directory name tables LNM$PROCESS_DIRECTORY and LNM$SYSTEM_DIRECTORY can   > be found.  > # > This is a quite serious problem !  >   @ I just tried the same on my DEC 3000-400 running OpenVMS V7.3-1:  B $ create /name_table/nolog/executive/parent=lnm$system_directory -=        /protection=(system:rwed,owner:rwed,group:r,world:r) - &                   apache$logical_names5 $ set acl /nolog/new/object_type=logical_name_table - >             /acl=(identifier=[apache$www],access=read+write) -&                   apache$logical_names+ $ show sec/obj=logical apache$logical_names   7 APACHE$LOGICAL_NAMES object of class LOGICAL_NAME_TABLE        Owner: [SYSTEM] A       Protection: (System: RWCD, Owner: RWCD, Group: R, World: R)        Access Control List:6            (IDENTIFIER=[APACHE$WWW],ACCESS=READ+WRITE) $   " EDIT/ACL also displays no problem.  I It is not a problem on every V7.3-1 system but I have no idea what could   cause this.    Regards,  	 Bart Zorn    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 11:03:16 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>) Subject: Re: First 7.3-1 problem detected 1 Message-ID: <dVxn9.1563$gD2.69325@zwoll1.home.nl>    Bart Zorn wrote: > Dirk Munk wrote: >  >> Dirk Munk wrote:  >> >>> Well, my first problem :-) >>> J >>> I was trying to startup Apache T1.3 (which worked fine in 7.3) and it " >>> stopped with an error message. >>> E >>> This is what is happening now in the Apache startup command file:  >>> L >>> $       create /name_table/nolog/executive/parent=lnm$system_directory -H >>>               /protection=(system:rwed,owner:rwed,group:r,world:r) -& >>>               apache$logical_names? >>> $       set acl /nolog/new/object_type=logical_name_table - D >>>               /acl=(identifier=[apache$www],access=read+write) -& >>>               apache$logical_names8 >>> %SYSTEM-F-NOLOGTAB, no logical name table name match >>> / >>> The table is there, so what is wrong here ?  >>>  >> >> some more information:  >>G >> edit /acl has the same problem. It seems that it is not possible to  H >> add a acl entry to any logical name table that has a parent. So only 7 >> the directory name tables LNM$PROCESS_DIRECTORY and  % >> LNM$SYSTEM_DIRECTORY can be found.  >>$ >> This is a quite serious problem ! >> > B > I just tried the same on my DEC 3000-400 running OpenVMS V7.3-1: > D > $ create /name_table/nolog/executive/parent=lnm$system_directory -> >       /protection=(system:rwed,owner:rwed,group:r,world:r) -' >                  apache$logical_names 7 > $ set acl /nolog/new/object_type=logical_name_table - ? >            /acl=(identifier=[apache$www],access=read+write) - ' >                  apache$logical_names - > $ show sec/obj=logical apache$logical_names  > 9 > APACHE$LOGICAL_NAMES object of class LOGICAL_NAME_TABLE  >      Owner: [SYSTEM]B >      Protection: (System: RWCD, Owner: RWCD, Group: R, World: R) >      Access Control List: 7 >           (IDENTIFIER=[APACHE$WWW],ACCESS=READ+WRITE)  > $  > $ > EDIT/ACL also displays no problem. > K > It is not a problem on every V7.3-1 system but I have no idea what could  
 > cause this.  > 
 > Regards, >  > Bart Zorn  >  >  > Q Did you enable hard links during installation? I did, and I have a vague feeling  P that my problem could have something to do with that. Of course hard links deal J with files, and name tables are memory structures, but there is a certain O similarity like they both have directory structures. I just wonder how much of  A the same code was used for adding ACE's to files and name tables.    Regards, Dirk   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 16:18:53 +0200 ) From: Bart Zorn <B.Zorn@xs4all.nospam.nl> ) Subject: Re: First 7.3-1 problem detected * Message-ID: <anmscd$d92$1@news1.xs4all.nl>   Dirk Munk wrote: > Bart Zorn wrote: >  >> Dirk Munk wrote:  >> >>> Dirk Munk wrote: >>>  >>>> Well, my first problem :-)  >>>>H >>>> I was trying to startup Apache T1.3 (which worked fine in 7.3) and & >>>> it stopped with an error message. >>>>F >>>> This is what is happening now in the Apache startup command file: >>>> >>>> $       create > >>>> /name_table/nolog/executive/parent=lnm$system_directory -I >>>>               /protection=(system:rwed,owner:rwed,group:r,world:r) - ' >>>>               apache$logical_names @ >>>> $       set acl /nolog/new/object_type=logical_name_table -E >>>>               /acl=(identifier=[apache$www],access=read+write) - ' >>>>               apache$logical_names 9 >>>> %SYSTEM-F-NOLOGTAB, no logical name table name match  >>>>0 >>>> The table is there, so what is wrong here ? >>>> >>>  >>> some more information: >>> H >>> edit /acl has the same problem. It seems that it is not possible to I >>> add a acl entry to any logical name table that has a parent. So only  8 >>> the directory name tables LNM$PROCESS_DIRECTORY and & >>> LNM$SYSTEM_DIRECTORY can be found. >>> % >>> This is a quite serious problem !  >>>  >>C >> I just tried the same on my DEC 3000-400 running OpenVMS V7.3-1:  >>E >> $ create /name_table/nolog/executive/parent=lnm$system_directory - ? >>       /protection=(system:rwed,owner:rwed,group:r,world:r) - ( >>                  apache$logical_names8 >> $ set acl /nolog/new/object_type=logical_name_table -@ >>            /acl=(identifier=[apache$www],access=read+write) -( >>                  apache$logical_names. >> $ show sec/obj=logical apache$logical_names >>: >> APACHE$LOGICAL_NAMES object of class LOGICAL_NAME_TABLE >>      Owner: [SYSTEM] C >>      Protection: (System: RWCD, Owner: RWCD, Group: R, World: R)  >>      Access Control List:8 >>           (IDENTIFIER=[APACHE$WWW],ACCESS=READ+WRITE) >> $ >>% >> EDIT/ACL also displays no problem.  >>F >> It is not a problem on every V7.3-1 system but I have no idea what  >> could cause this. >> >> Regards,  >> >> Bart Zorn >> >> >>K > Did you enable hard links during installation? I did, and I have a vague  J > feeling that my problem could have something to do with that. Of course I > hard links deal with files, and name tables are memory structures, but  J > there is a certain similarity like they both have directory structures. G > I just wonder how much of the same code was used for adding ACE's to   > files and name tables. > 
 > Regards, > Dirk >   $ Indeed, I did NOT enable hard links.   Bart   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 14:21:02 GMT 2 From: Gib Copeland <copeland@jenni.path.uiowa.edu>) Subject: Re: First 7.3-1 problem detected , Message-ID: <izCn9.46788$xI5.9542@sccrnsc02>   Dirk Munk wrote: > Well, my first problem :-) > H > I was trying to startup Apache T1.3 (which worked fine in 7.3) and it   > stopped with an error message. > C > This is what is happening now in the Apache startup command file:s > J > $       create /name_table/nolog/executive/parent=lnm$system_directory -F >               /protection=(system:rwed,owner:rwed,group:r,world:r) -$ >               apache$logical_names= > $       set acl /nolog/new/object_type=logical_name_table -lB >               /acl=(identifier=[apache$www],access=read+write) -$ >               apache$logical_names6 > %SYSTEM-F-NOLOGTAB, no logical name table name match > - > The table is there, so what is wrong here ?r >   = Set your DCL parse style back to "traditional" and try again.k: Or, in the SET ACL command, change apache$logical_names to
 uppercase.  A I'm not sure why the SET ACL command is treating it as lowercase,nA while the CREATE/NAME creates the table in uppercase.  Perhaps we @ need a DCL case/parsing flow chart similar to the one for object	 security?y   Gibr   ------------------------------  * Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:51:32 -0700 (PDT). From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> Subject: GEMBASE Bugchecki@ Message-ID: <20021005165132.47873.qmail@web20201.mail.yahoo.com>  3 We are having some problems with GEMBASE bugchecks.  Anyone know what can be it ? .+ PS: We dont have GEMBASE support anymore  !c    . <CR><LF>         OpenVMS Alpha Debug64 Version V7.2-00R<CR><LF>- %DEBUG-I-DYNIMGSET, setting image GEM_LOW_RTLj, %DEBUG-I-DYNMODSET, setting module GM_STSMAN0 Process number: 1                  Process name: AMADEUS:Paulo       3 Hold: NO                           Visible process:a YES , Current PC: GM_STSMAN\gm_sts_stop\%LINE 5178 State: interrupted "        activated v6 PID: 0004F132                      Owner PID: 000000005 Current/Base priority:  6/4        Terminal: TNA4672 >  . Image name: C16000$DKB0:<GEMBASE.>[RUN]GEM.EXE       Regards    FC >   =====o ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazilt fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?2 Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com   ------------------------------  * Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:55:56 -0700 (PDT). From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> Subject: GEMBASE Bugcheck @ Message-ID: <20021005165556.97050.qmail@web20209.mail.yahoo.com>    Sending in a formated mode ! :-)  = Just to review... I am having some problems with GEMBASE 6.0 m= bugchecks under OpenVMS 7.2-1h1. Anyone experienced in this ?n        ? <CR><LF>         OpenVMS Alpha Debug64 Version V7.2-00R<CR><LF>r- %DEBUG-I-DYNIMGSET, setting image GEM_LOW_RTLp, %DEBUG-I-DYNMODSET, setting module GM_STSMANE Process number: 1                  Process name: AMADEUS:Paulo       c7 Hold: NO                           Visible process: YESu, Current PC: GM_STSMAN\gm_sts_stop\%LINE 5178 State: interrupted          activated  6 PID: 0004F132                      Owner PID: 000000005 Current/Base priority:  6/4        Terminal: TNA4672 v  . Image name: C16000$DKB0:<GEMBASE.>[RUN]GEM.EXE     =====. ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazils fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?2 Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com   ------------------------------   Date: 5 Oct 02 10:07:17 +0200e) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture)a( Subject: RE: mistakenly released rant...) Message-ID: <tbvUFEv8iufh@elias.decus.ch>n  E In article <anck19$9ij$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, GcE <gce@gce.com> writes:n > Tim Llewellyn wrote: >> -
 >> GcE wrote:  >>  - >>>Nutz...meant to mail reply to Atlant only.n >>>cE >>>Is there a way in Mozilla to cancel postings? If not it is I thinky/ >>>the first newsreader I've used lacking such.i >>   >>  3 >> Probably, in Netscape 4.7 its in the Edit menu. P >> :B >> The problem is once the post hits INFO-VAX you can't cancel all4 >> those emails (I've been bitten by that recently). >> .3 >> What the situation is with Google I am not sure.A >> <
 >> regards >> T >> 8 >>>Glenn Everhart= >> ! >> :S > Cancel message is in the Mozilla edit menu too, but is grayed out even though theYP > message was mine. Not implemented perhaps or for some reason not recognized... > E > The buttons in mxrn are laid out a shade differently and my fingers8? > recalled the wrong set...apologies to fellow non-rant-lovers.Y > Glenn Everhart >   I IIRC, both Netscape and Mozilla determine from your email address whether9 it is greyed out or not.  ; Also useful is the Google delete message facility found at <  5 http://services.google.com:8882/urlconsole/controller      C It has worked for me, although I have noticed some deleted messages]$ creeping back onto Google with time.  : -- I
 Paul Sture Switzerland3   ------------------------------   Date: 5 Oct 02 10:29:37 +0200:) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture)<I Subject: Re: My VMS Webserver book is available - missing acknowledgments.) Message-ID: <vtz4bWul4LcB@elias.decus.ch>    In article <craigberry-FD4890.23282101102002@news.directvinternet.com>, "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@nospam.telocity.com> writes:X: > In article <00A14D0E.F06B8A49@SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>,( >  winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU wrote: > P >> This can be purchased at a discount either through amazon.com or by following> >> the links to digital press from the Compaq/HP openVMS page. > G > And for those as lazy as I am, the amazon link is available with one gE > click from the openvms.org home page.  The amazon.com marketingbot oG > tells me that people who bought this book also bought, "The Ultimate  E > Sex, Love & Romance Quiz Book", so now I know what ya'll have been s > reading ;-).  E I'll add a note for non-US readers. It is well worth shopping around. J If I buy it locally ( www.books.ch ) I get to pay almost double the price!   > D > Thanks Alan, I'm really looking forward to reading this (yours, I  > mean).   My congratulations to Alan too.:   -- M
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 11:10:11 +0200l From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>I Subject: Re: My VMS Webserver book is available - missing acknowledgments 1 Message-ID: <I%xn9.1603$gD2.73463@zwoll1.home.nl>o   Craig A. Berry wrote: : > In article <00A14D0E.F06B8A49@SSRL04.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>,( >  winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU wrote: >  > O >>This can be purchased at a discount either through amazon.com or by followingr= >>the links to digital press from the Compaq/HP openVMS page.  >  > G > And for those as lazy as I am, the amazon link is available with one /E > click from the openvms.org home page.  The amazon.com marketingbot ,G > tells me that people who bought this book also bought, "The Ultimate aE > Sex, Love & Romance Quiz Book", so now I know what ya'll have been d > reading ;-).  P Well, my original order with Amazon consisted out of "OpenVMS System Management N Guide", "Oracle9i Web Development" and this book. Rather boring compared with  the quiz book. :-)K But I'm happy that I can report that Amazon has shipped my copy of the web t8 server book, so I expect to be reading it next weekend ! > D > Thanks Alan, I'm really looking forward to reading this (yours, I  > mean).   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 23:34:42 GMTa+ From: Ryan Moore <rmoore@rmoore.dyndns.org> * Subject: Re: OpenVMS 7.3-1 Linker question< Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.31.0210041619370.3972-100000@jaipur>  J It is possible to link applications on a newer version of VMS such that itH will work on earlier versions.  It is not supported, but this method has worked for me.  I First, copy the sys$library directory from the v7.2 machines to a holdingSJ directory on the 7.3 machine (NOT the the sys$library directory on the 7.3	 machine).m  2 Create a logical for that directory like "V72LIB".  I Then specify the "/NOSYSLIB/NOSYSHR" qualifiers on the link command.  You H will get errors about undefined symbols when you do this.  Add an optionF file for the link that specifies the system libraries you are missing.   Here's one that we use:t alpha$library:STARLET.OLB/lib   alpha$library:DECC$SHR.EXE/share alpha$library:EDTSHR.EXE/share alpha$library:LBRSHR.EXE/share alpha$library:LIBRTL.EXE/share  alpha$library:DPML$SHR.EXE/share alpha$library:FDLSHR.EXE/share alpha$library:LIBOTS.EXE/share alpha$library:SMGSHR.EXE/share alpha$library:SORTSHR.EXE/sharet" alpha$library:SECURESHRP.EXE/share* alpha$library:SYS$PUBLIC_VECTORS.EXE/share  C Where alpha$library points to the old sys$library directory.  It issE important to get the files in the right order in the options file forbE the link operation to work.  The above list was a result of trial andE error until I got it to work.m  
 Then link:  * link/nosyslib/nosysshr foo,v72libs.opt/opt  F A short cut is to use the normal link command to link the file on 7.3.I Then use anal/image to find out which shared libraries the executable was J actually linked against.  This will tell you what 7.2 files you'll have toI list in your options file when you use the /nosyslib/nosysshr qualifiers.n  H You should be able to run foo.exe on the 7.2 system.  This method is notG foolproof.  If you are compiling a C program, you need to realize theretJ are conditional compile preprocessor directives in the system header filesJ that do different things based on the version of VMS the file was COMPILEDH on.  Those headers might reference C library routines that are availableJ in 7.3 that aren't available in 7.2.  This is a complicating factor we had to deal with as well.E      % On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Neil Rieck wrote:    > Folks, > K > We are in the process of upgrading our four OpenVMS systems from 7.2-1 toDM > 7.3-1 when we ran into a very little problem. Our development system is nowRL > at 7.3-1 while our production system is at 7.2-1. Images linked on the newH > system can't be run on the old system and receive the following error: >E4 > %DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image SECURESHRP > -CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file5 > KAWC15$DKB0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]SECURESHRP.EXE < > -SYSTEM-F-SHRIDMISMAT, ident mismatch with shareable image > J > We can easily get around this problem by copying the object files to theG > production machine then linking them over there, but one program is auN > monster which requires linkage with a large number of object files scattered > through many sub directories.s >eE > Does anyone know of any linker switch that can be used to create anc> > executable which will run on a lower dot version of OpenVMS? >uH > p.s. Aside from this little snag, OpenVMS 7.3-1 is really neat and theN > upgrade was fast (under 40 minutes). My only complaint is that they replacedK > the beautiful DIGITAL logo on the Motif login screen with a 'sub standardiB > looking' COMPAQ logo. Maybe HP will remedy this with a patch :-) >o > Neil Rieck > Kitchener/Waterloo/Cambridge,b > Ontario, Canada.# > http://www3.sympatico.ca/n.rieck/h >e >r >c >a   ------------------------------  * Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 09:54:17 -0700 (PDT). From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>2 Subject: Re: OpenVMS LPD x LAT Printers - HELP !!!@ Message-ID: <20021005165417.73635.qmail@web20210.mail.yahoo.com>   David   8 Thank you ! I solved the problem ! It was related to the6 LPD Proxy. I opnened a case at HP/Compaq  and the CSC  solved my problem.   Regards    FC d0 --- David Webb <david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk> wrote:= > In article <3D9D0A0B.C79DED08@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera"c! > <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:v > >Fabio Cardoso wrote:  > >> s2 > >> I have an old AS-1000 located 2000 km from my3 > >> datacenter with a few LAT printers (no TCPIP).t- > >> How can I configure the LPR queues in myl1 > >> local server to print in the LAT printers inw; > >> the other (remote) server ? I searched comp.os.vms andn' > >> didnt find any useful information.  > >> m > >> Ex: > >> t: > >> (LPR)local SERVER 1  ----> (LPR)remote SERVER 2 ----> > >> LAT Printer > > I > >If I understand your query correctly, you want to print from a machine/E > >with TCP/IP to a machine without TCP/IP (regardless of whether the @ > >target queue processor is PRTSYM or LATSYM - it would make no > >fundamental difference).0 > > D > >Obviously, a machine with no TCP/IP cannot accept an incoming LPD > >connection request. > >5J > >All I can suggest is to look into DQS. That will require routing DECnet > >to the remote site, however.  > >iF > >If, on the other hand, the question is TCP/IP -> TCP/IP, the targetH > >queues are LATSYM queues, that's a different critter. Not sure how toI > >pull that off, but it may have something to with pointing the queue(s)VK > >on "Server 1" to the counter part queue(s) on "Server 2". Dunno - been an1 > >while since I tried to pull a stunt like that.p > >n > ? > We do the latter all the time from some SUN systems to queuesyL > running on a VMS system pointing at either LAT queues or TCPIP queues on a > Novell system. > L > (The reason for the redirection of the TCPIP queues is that the Old NovellM > system requires the remote printer name to include the full NDS context andi > thecO > old Solaris system's lpr/lpd only allows this field to contain a printer name1N > upto 14 characters long. The VMS systems doesn't have this restriction hence > a 0 > little bit of redirection solves the problem). > 3 > To get this to work with Dec TCPIP services / UCXc > 0 > 1) On server 2 setup print queue using LAT etc >  > 2) mcr lprsetup  >  >    setup queue as local queue> >  > 3) On server 1 c >  >    mcr lprsetup) > # >    setup remote queue specifying t > & >    remote machine (rm) to be server2 > A >    remote printer (rp) to be the printer queue name on server 2E >  > O > Then any print to the queue on server1 will be passed by lpr to the lpd queuey6 > on server2 and will then print off on the lat queue. >  > I > (for our TCPIP redirection to the novell systems steps 1 and 2 are justn
 > replaced byo >    >    mcr lprsetupi > # >    setup remote queue specifying m > K >    remote machine (rm) to be on novell server running Unix print servicesu > H >    remote printer (rp) to be the printer queue name exported by Novell	 > server.  >  >  > )  > F > You can chain as many lpr - lpd - lpr - lpd  s together as you wish.M > Though obviously each one of these links introduces an additional potentialo > point of failure.p >  > David Webb > VMS and Unix team leader > CCSS > Middlesex University >      =====m ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazilg fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?2 Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com   ------------------------------   Date: 5 Oct 02 13:25:37 +0200 ) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture)h4 Subject: Re: Originator of detached process from DCL) Message-ID: <Ink5Zcq0ZmCR@elias.decus.ch>i  \ In article <3D9DF5EA.9FE73534@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes: > tironef@yahoo.com wrote:C >> I'm trying to determine which process or application created the D >> detached process.  This job can be just submitted or created as aI >> detached process from a process named ABATEMGR.  If my job is run from / >> ABATEMGR, I need to do additional procssing.  >  > ouch.I > O > Can ABATEMGR be modified ? If so, then ABATEMGR could "pass a message" to thesO > detacted process to indicate it should do the extra processing. One way to do " > this is to use the process name. >    But not terribly secure.  I > I.E. when ABATEMGR creates the detached process, it specifies a specialrL > process name. And when the detached process starts , it checks its processK > name to see if it is the special keyword and if so, then does the special @ > processing and then renames itself to a standard process name. > L > I am not really sure it is possible for a detached process to know who its > parent is.   How about something like this?  / 1. Master process creates the detached process.s; 2. Master then creates a mailbox using the pid of the newly70    detached process as part of the mailbox name.A 3. Master places a message in the mailbox indicating the "owner". ? 4. Detached process reads the mailbox to determine the "owner".e? 5. Detached process writes back to the mailbox with status, and/
    closes it..* 6. Master reads status and closes mailbox.   -- \
 Paul Sture SwitzerlandP   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 14:00:41 GMT  From: system@SendSpamHere.ORG24 Subject: Re: Originator of detached process from DCL0 Message-ID: <00A14FDE.8708C91E@SendSpamHere.ORG>  U In article <Ink5Zcq0ZmCR@elias.decus.ch>, p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) writes:.] >In article <3D9DF5EA.9FE73534@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes:  >> tironef@yahoo.com wrote:tD >>> I'm trying to determine which process or application created theE >>> detached process.  This job can be just submitted or created as aeJ >>> detached process from a process named ABATEMGR.  If my job is run from0 >>> ABATEMGR, I need to do additional procssing. >> o >> ouch. >>  P >> Can ABATEMGR be modified ? If so, then ABATEMGR could "pass a message" to theP >> detacted process to indicate it should do the extra processing. One way to do# >> this is to use the process name.s >> r >e >But not terribly secure.t > J >> I.E. when ABATEMGR creates the detached process, it specifies a specialM >> process name. And when the detached process starts , it checks its processFL >> name to see if it is the special keyword and if so, then does the specialA >> processing and then renames itself to a standard process name.  >> aM >> I am not really sure it is possible for a detached process to know who itsm
 >> parent is.  >  >How about something like this?t >l0 >1. Master process creates the detached process.< >2. Master then creates a mailbox using the pid of the newly1 >   detached process as part of the mailbox name.uB >3. Master places a message in the mailbox indicating the "owner".@ >4. Detached process reads the mailbox to determine the "owner".@ >5. Detached process writes back to the mailbox with status, and >   closes it.+ >6. Master reads status and closes mailbox.t >a >--  >Paul Stureo >Switzerland    J For that matter, assuming the original poster can modify the programs and D there are sufficient privies to so so, why not do the equivalent of:  L $ DEFINE/TABLE=LNM$JOB_{detached_JIB_address} PROGENITOR 'F$getjpi("","PID")   after creating the process.  --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COMe             5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" 3   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sat, 5 Oct 2002 10:20:13 -0400G From: "Lorraine Profeta" <profetal@greaterbaynet.com@greaterbaynet.com>a Subject: Re: tcp/ip == UCX, Message-ID: <anmsbg$p6k$1@news.chatlink.com>   Ultrix Compatibility Executive  G <sms@antinode.org> wrote in message news:02100418171994@antinode.org...m4 > From: "Stuart Johnson" <ssj152 AT charter DOT net> > H > > [...] If I remember correctly, UCX stood for UNIX Connection - [...] > 2 >    My recollection is the VMS Ultrix Connection. >t, > > [...] Early versions were pretty lame... >aI >    As of version V2.something, it lacked some critical feature which my_I > employer needed at the time, so we went with Wollongong's product (theno > called WIN/TCP). >cE >    Not yet having seen TCPIP V5.3, can anyone reveal if CTRL/T doessG > anything so nice in its FTP client as the PathWay client did (several   > years ago) during a transfer?: > / > Receiving file SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSMGR]BIG_FILE.;iG > Elapsed time 00:00:11.14, 260096 bytes transferred (~22.80 KB/second)r >hJ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >tE >    Steven M. Schweda               (+1) 651-699-9818  (voice, home) E >    382 South Warwick Street        (+1) 763-781-0308  (voice, work)tI >    Saint Paul  MN  55105-2547      (+1) 763-781-0309  (facsimile, work)v; >    sms@antinode.org                sms@provis.com  (work)    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Oct 02 09:20:59 +0200i) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture)s" Subject: Re: UCX security advisory) Message-ID: <mr2Def+RygEe@elias.decus.ch>c  l In article <20020930070908.6365.qmail@nym.alias.net>, Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:: > On 30 Sep 02, p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) wrote: >  > <snip> > ; >>Does all this mean we can enter for DEFCON next time? :-)0 > D > Quite. That was a naughty trick changing the rules to exclude VMS. > K >>As my Unix colleague said on Friday when I told him of the vulnerability:e9 >>"It's always mail that's the weakest link, isn't it?"    > # > Or - as was the case here - http.d >    Indeed.d   __
 Paul Sture Switzerland>   ------------------------------   Date: 5 Oct 02 09:40:05 +0200c) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture)r* Subject: Re: WASD Security Advisory Issued) Message-ID: <hegm4DfEY+Wh@elias.decus.ch>1  g In article <9QZl9.367$tB6.107352107@news.netcarrier.net>, "rob@ NetCarrier" <rob@paychoice.com> writes:uN >   Well  With the last couple updates for Security  I've been waiting for Bob > C's spin on this?  >   @ Me too. I was almost tempted to write it for him - I'm not short of examples :-)f   --  
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------   Date: 5 Oct 02 10:57:24 +0200 ) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) * Subject: Re: WASD Security Advisory Issued) Message-ID: <2zru26hpTRY4@elias.decus.ch>n  X In article <3D9B239C.1080503@nospamn.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy writes: >  >  > JF Mezei wrote:(+ >> Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote:l >> m? >>>A file protection glitch being able to overwrite any file in @ >>>the system !! This isn't a security hole its a 6 lane tunnel. >> A >> cM >> In the case of the pop server thing, yes, it could technically overwrite aiO >> file, but you couldn't really control the contents. It was just logfile data I >> that woudl be written. You couldn't send some executable to that file.m >>   > ? > Quite, so you have your database in a RMS file(s) and someoneh' > overwrites it/them with logfile data.s > : > Not quite damaging its the denial of service attack from > hell.  >   ' Attack reproduced, on my username file:e   $ dir sysuaf/da/siz=all    Directory SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]r  = SYSUAF.DAT;2               4/18        5-OCT-2002 10:51:13.20l= SYSUAF.DAT;1              54/54       27-OCT-2000 17:35:16.22P   Total of 2 files, 58/72 blocks.. $ set host 0  =  Welcome to OpenVMS (TM) Alpha Operating System, Version V7.3M   Username: test) Error accessing system authorization file> Invalid record sizev3 %REM-S-END, control returned to node LOCAL:.MYBOX::e $   E Yes, a denial of service, but easy to fix, as it hasn't destroyed theo original version.t   --  
 Paul Sture Switzerlandm   ------------------------------   Date: 5 Oct 02 11:26:41 +0200n) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture)tY Subject: RE: [security bulletin] SSRT2371 HP OpenVMS Potential POP server local vulnerabih) Message-ID: <SvJ+Kp3LGRA1@elias.decus.ch>o  _ In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIGEIJFNAA.tom@kednos.com>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes: : > OK, I have 5.1 running under 7.3.  Is 5.3 on the latest 7 > Software Products Library, or can it be downloaded?  e  # IIRC it's on the June/July ConDist.l   > How ; > about the ECO, is that downloadable?  I assume that it is 8 > a self-extracting file that installs itself?  Sorry to. > bother, but really haven't done this before. >   B Yes, it is downloadable. Some browsers mess up the file attributesF so that the checksum gives the wrong result. The following fixes that:   $! FIX_EXE.COM $! ----------- $!& $ set file/attr=(rfm:fix,lrl:512) 'p1' $ checksum 'p1'o $ show sym checksum$checksum   -- 8
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