1 INFO-VAX	Thu, 10 Oct 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 560       Contents:0 Re: A warning to use bounds checking in BASIC(?)H Accounting shows %SYSTEM-W-CLIFRCEXT, CLI forced exit for TELNET processL RE: Accounting shows %SYSTEM-W-CLIFRCEXT, CLI forced exit for TELNET process7 Re: Alphaserver 4100 + 2 FC LP-8000 (freezing/reseting) ! Re: Announcing WHOIS V1.5 for VMS * Re: Booting a VMS cluster node using BOOTP* Re: Booting a VMS cluster node using BOOTP* Re: Booting a VMS cluster node using BOOTP* Re: Booting a VMS cluster node using BOOTP# Re: C: sizeof question with structs ; CERT Advisory CA-2002-28 Trojan Horse Sendmail Distribution ? RE: CERT Advisory CA-2002-28 Trojan Horse Sendmail Distribution  Re: Disable access log on CSWS File convert ? Re: File convert ? Re: File convert ? Re: graphics card problem  Re: graphics card problem  Re: graphics card problem  Re: Hobbyist kit Contents  Re: Hobbyist kit Contents   HoPping along with two left feet Re: legato for Openvms% MAIL$SEND : Set the date of message ? % MAIL$SEND : Set the date of message ? ) Re: MAIL$SEND : Set the date of message ? ) Re: MAIL$SEND : Set the date of message ?  Re: Mozilla and CSS # Re: New www.openvms.compaq.com site # Re: New www.openvms.compaq.com site # Re: OpenVMS 25th anniversary survey # Re: OpenVMS 25th anniversary survey # Re: OpenVMS 25th anniversary survey % OVMS Concurrent user (update license) ) Re: OVMS Concurrent user (update license) & Re: OVMS Samba and Win2000 Native mode& Re: OVMS Samba and Win2000 Native mode, Problem copying large files from VMS to Unix0 Re: Problem copying large files from VMS to Unix0 Re: Problem copying large files from VMS to Unix0 Re: Problem copying large files from VMS to Unix0 Re: Problem copying large files from VMS to Unix0 Re: Problem copying large files from VMS to Unix( PSM-E-MODNOTFND (Was Re: File convert ?) Re: singular and plural of VAX Re: singular and plural of VAX Re: singular and plural of VAX Re: singular and plural of VAX Re: singular and plural of VAX RE: singular and plural of VAX RE: singular and plural of VAX RE: singular and plural of VAX RE: singular and plural of VAX RE: singular and plural of VAX? Trying to install OVMS 7.0 on Digital Alphaserver 1000 4/266... C Re: Trying to install OVMS 7.0 on Digital Alphaserver 1000 4/266... & version 6.2, 7.1 & 7.3-1 compatability* Re: version 6.2, 7.1 & 7.3-1 compatability# VMS Date Format Manipulation with C ' Re: VMS Date Format Manipulation with C ' Re: VMS Date Format Manipulation with C   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:30:20 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> 9 Subject: Re: A warning to use bounds checking in BASIC(?) ; Message-ID: <01KNI8M9LGXE9QWKOO@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   G > > I suppose this is one reason why /DEBUG=(NOSYMBOLS,TRACEBACK) is a  J > > sensible default---not too much to weigh you down, but enough to give L > > SOME hint if something crashes.  I suppose some folks do a /NODEBUG for + > > production code delivered to customers.  > ? > In my experience, the "beneficial" effects of the debugger on A > program execution are typically felt only when the debugger has # > actually been mapped at run time.  > C > Whether you compile with or without /DEBUG=SYMBOLS is irrelevant. < > What matters is whether you actually activate the debuggerJ > with $ RUN /DEBUG, $ LINK /DEBUG, $ DEBUG or LIB$SIGNAL(%VAL(SS$_DEBUG)) > ? > Yes, having the symbol table floating around in P0 space can  = > change things, but having the debugger mapped (and possibly = > having it write-enable all your code pages) tends to change  > things even more.   G My experience: FORTRAN and LINK with (at least with respect to /DEBUG)  H just the defaults.  If something like an access violation occurs at run H time, it will print out the line numbers and module names.  That's what H I was referring to.  This is without specifying /DEBUG with the FORTRAN 1 or LINK commands.  /NODEBUG will get rid of this.    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Oct 2002 10:08:40 -0700& From: dorrt@sutterhealth.org (tr dorr)Q Subject: Accounting shows %SYSTEM-W-CLIFRCEXT, CLI forced exit for TELNET process = Message-ID: <59b7bbb8.0210100908.1702e34e@posting.google.com>   ? When viewing Account/full/user=simth the follwing is displayed: O Owner ID:                            Elapsed time:                0 05:23:45.74 O Terminal name:     TNA8897           Processor time:              0 00:00:00.71 ; Remote node addr:                    Priority:          4   @ Remote node name:                    Privilege <31-00>: 00108000@ Remote ID:         TELNET_0A01DAE9   Privilege <63-32>: 00000000O Remote full name:  sc306ws.sutterhealth.org                                     @ Queue entry:                         Final status code: 000009802 Queue name:                                       : Job name:                                                 7 Final status text: %SYSTEM-W-CLIFRCEXT, CLI forced exit   < What does the waring message mean and what would cause this? Thanks,  Tom    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:09:37 -0700 $ From: Shane Smith <ssmith@icius.com>U Subject: RE: Accounting shows %SYSTEM-W-CLIFRCEXT, CLI forced exit for TELNET process 0 Message-ID: <01C27045.42FFA620@sulfer.icius.com>  & According to "HELP/MESSAGE CLIFRCEXT":    CLIFRCEXT,  CLI forced exit  '   Facility:     SYSTEM, System Services   D   Explanation:  The command interpreter forced an image to terminateF                 abnormally. The debugger displays this message when an image H                 is interrupted by Ctrl/Y and another command is entered.     User Action:  None.    Did you hit Ctrl/Y?    Shane (yep, I'm back)     ##### #-O-O-#  #  L  #   #===#   ###              -----Original Message-----< From: dorrt@sutterhealth.org [mailto:dorrt@sutterhealth.org]) Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 10:09 AM  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com B Subject: Accounting shows %SYSTEM-W-CLIFRCEXT, CLI forced exit for TELNET process    ? When viewing Account/full/user=simth the follwing is displayed: C Owner ID:                            Elapsed time:                0  05:23:45.74 C Terminal name:     TNA8897           Processor time:              0  00:00:00.71 ; Remote node addr:                    Priority:          4   @ Remote node name:                    Privilege <31-00>: 00108000@ Remote ID:         TELNET_0A01DAE9   Privilege <63-32>: 00000000+ Remote full name:  sc306ws.sutterhealth.org        @ Queue entry:                         Final status code: 000009802 Queue name:                                       : Job name:                                                 7 Final status text: %SYSTEM-W-CLIFRCEXT, CLI forced exit   < What does the waring message mean and what would cause this? Thanks,  Tom    ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:54:46 -0700 (PDT) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>@ Subject: Re: Alphaserver 4100 + 2 FC LP-8000 (freezing/reseting)@ Message-ID: <20021010165446.99067.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com>  @ The AS-4100 didnt hang since yesterday when we changed the slot.= May be it is a problem related to the second bus with a FC !       Regards    FC  3 --- Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote:  > Dirk > C > Thew AS-4100 has the lastest versions of firmware and the FC too! I > This morning my server freezed two times. At the second time we changed ; > the slot of the new FC to another slot (other bus). Until H > now the server didt freeze. I must wait until 15:00-16:00 hrs, because$ > it is the peak time of server use. > N > If the machine dont freeze again, may be the problem is related to the other, > bus. I had a machine check related to IOD. > 	 > regards  > FC  % > --- Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote: N > > Did you upgrade the firmware of the AS-4100 (and maybe of the FC cards )?.H > > The 4100 has 2 or 4 pci busses ( I always  confuse the 4000 and the L > > 4100). Put every FC card in its own PCI bus, and all should work well I 
 > > guess.E > > Are you sure the EMC has all the necesarry patches and settings ? I > > And please do use multipath, you can still do a bit of I/O balancing  K > > with that. You will be a lot happier with automatic failover if one of  & > > the paths fails, I can assure you. > >  > > Regards, > > Dirk > >  > > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > >  > > >Dear Sirs > > > 6 > > >We installed an aditional Fibre Channel (FC) card> > > >in our AS-4100, and since then, the server is hanging andC > > >reseting. Any considerations about two FC cards (no multipath) ? > > >in AS-4100 ? I was thinking in the possibility of this old A > > >server with old bus, dont support two FC cards. We splitted  ; > > >the disks in the EMC for I/O balancing (no multipath).  > > >  > > > @ > > >OpenVMS 7.2-1h1  (last patches applied UPDATE 5.0 + FC 5.0) > > >  > > >  > > >Regards > > >  > > >FC  > > > 
 > > >===== > > >==========================  > > >Fbio dos Santos Cardoso  > > >OpenVMS System Manager  > > >Rio de Janeiro - Brazil > > >fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br  > > >==========================  > > > 7 > > >__________________________________________________  > > >Do you Yahoo!? 7 > > >Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More  > > >http://faith.yahoo.com  > > >    > > >  > >  >  >  > =====  > ========================== > Fbio dos Santos Cardoso > OpenVMS System Manager > Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  > fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br > ========================== > 4 > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!?4 > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com     =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?2 Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:20:19 -0500 & From: jlsue <jlsuexxxz@screaminet.com>* Subject: Re: Announcing WHOIS V1.5 for VMS8 Message-ID: <qjvaqugdafbup7fcl641n8lb8kuevfmqeg@4ax.com>  7 On Tue, 08 Oct 2002 21:13:37 -0500, "David J. Dachtera"  <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote:  
 >jlsue wrote:  >>  / >> On Mon, 07 Oct 2002 16:16:37 -0400, JF Mezei ( >> <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote: >>   >> >Brian Tillman wrote:P >> >> Could you make this a little more compatible with other TCP/IP stacks?  In1 >> >> particular, the /SERVER qualifier is better P >> >> written /HOST (to correspond with the qualfier in Multinet and TCPware andL >> >> to be more in line with the -h (i.e., host) option in Unix versions of
 >> >> whois).  >> > >> >Suggestion noted.  >>  C >> The beauty of using a .cld with this tool would be that you just / >> define a synonym - no code changes required.  > E >Can you define a synonym for a qualifier? I know you can for a verb,  >but...   D You're absolutely right.  Don't know where my brain was on that one.   ------------------------------   Date: 10 Oct 2002 08:10:30 GMT3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann) 3 Subject: Re: Booting a VMS cluster node using BOOTP 0 Message-ID: <ao3clm$1ib$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  v In article <2a3a3daf.0210090606.214fe93e@posting.google.com>, jaq.vanrooijen@tiscalimail.nl (Hans van Rooijen) writes:@ >I created a OpenVMS clusternode using LANACP instead of DECnet.+ >The system is booting correctly using MOP. 6 >Is it also possible to use BOOTP as default protocol. > 0 >On the bootserver is BOOTP already configured.  > F >EWA0_protocols on the station is set to BOOTP but the machine refuses@ >to boot. It seems that the server is not offering a boot to the	 >station.   M I don't know if VMS is able to boot via BOOTP. But in order to do so the boot A server must support the BOOTP protocol as well. Is this the case?    Regards,    Christoph Gartmann   H -- --------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, Germany                                           |H +--------- http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/english/menue.html ---------+   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:59:30 +0100 * From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>3 Subject: Re: Booting a VMS cluster node using BOOTP + Message-ID: <ao3fhj$gvc@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>   @ "Christoph Gartmann" <gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de> wrote in message* news:ao3clm$1ib$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de...  H > >EWA0_protocols on the station is set to BOOTP but the machine refusesB > >to boot. It seems that the server is not offering a boot to the > >station.  > O > I don't know if VMS is able to boot via BOOTP. But in order to do so the boot C > server must support the BOOTP protocol as well. Is this the case?   L I don't believe so. Or rather, I suppose you could persuade UCX to serve theO boot file to the client. However, I doubt it would fly - how would you pass the  boot parameters?  M Is this a theoretical - I like playing around with the software question or a K practical question? For the latter, assume no. Unless you've got an IA64 ;)    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Oct 2002 07:51:40 -0600- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 3 Subject: Re: Booting a VMS cluster node using BOOTP 3 Message-ID: <O1iyT6oWO3Px@eisner.encompasserve.org>   v In article <2a3a3daf.0210090606.214fe93e@posting.google.com>, jaq.vanrooijen@tiscalimail.nl (Hans van Rooijen) writes:A > I created a OpenVMS clusternode using LANACP instead of DECnet.   I    Cluster has nothing to do with DECnet.  Basically initial load is via  J    MOM/MOP or BOOTP and then LAVC protcols take over serving disk files.    H    LANCP, DECnet, MOM/MOP, IP, and LAVC have different ethernet protocol0    numbers because they are different protocols.   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:05:08 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> 3 Subject: Re: Booting a VMS cluster node using BOOTP ; Message-ID: <01KNI5MADIO29QWKOO@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   H > Cluster has nothing to do with DECnet.  Basically initial load is via I > MOM/MOP or BOOTP and then LAVC protcols take over serving disk files.     I Although cluster communication is not via DECnet, one does have to think  F about DECnet when building a cluster.  MONITOR uses DECnet by default C (though it can be made to use TCPIP---not sure about PHONE) and in    ,    SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]CLUSTER_CONFIG_LAN.COM   one can read  >    The LAN, not DECnet, will be used for MOP downline loading.  F By taking a couple of things like this into account one can of course 0 run a "fully functional" cluster without DECnet.   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Oct 2002 07:54:04 -0600- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) , Subject: Re: C: sizeof question with structs3 Message-ID: <63SygALTTKgt@eisner.encompasserve.org>   ` In article <ao1kpb$i9oi5$3@ID-135708.news.dfncis.de>, bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:; > In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIIEPBFNAA.tom@kednos.com>, ( > 	"Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes: >>  @ >> (Of course, on some machines, in the past anyway, NULL wasn't >> always zero)    >   C    Since 0 is a valid address on a PDP-10 I had thought that anyone @    wanting to write a C compiler for it would use something elseF    for NULL (-1 would be workable), but the only commercial C compilerC    I saw for PDP-10 did use 0 for NULL.  That probably made porting     buggy software easier.    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:26:54 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> D Subject: CERT Advisory CA-2002-28 Trojan Horse Sendmail DistributionE Message-ID: <yefp9.7509$vX.1982@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>   ; CERT Advisory CA-2002-28 Trojan Horse Sendmail Distribution   . http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-28.html    J Just an FYI - Not a VMS problem, but some of you may have begun using this	 recently.   / Check the dates and your source of the program.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:32:40 -0400 # From: "Dan Allen" <dallen@nist.gov> H Subject: RE: CERT Advisory CA-2002-28 Trojan Horse Sendmail Distribution: Message-ID: <OPEPIPEJGHNICIJKJFEAEEOLFEAA.dallen@nist.gov>  S 	Just demonstrates the virtues of Open Source software.  Public scrutiny is so much U 	better better than that	proprietary code review stuff as we recently learned in this  	forum.    	Dan  & 	"If it ain't broke you're not trying"*                                  Red Green   > -----Original Message-----* > From: John Smith [mailto:a@nonymous.com]* > Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:27 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com F > Subject: CERT Advisory CA-2002-28 Trojan Horse Sendmail Distribution >  > = > CERT Advisory CA-2002-28 Trojan Horse Sendmail Distribution  > 0 > http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-28.html >  > L > Just an FYI - Not a VMS problem, but some of you may have begun using this > recently.  > 1 > Check the dates and your source of the program.  >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:50:26 +0200 6 From: Arne =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>' Subject: Re: Disable access log on CSWS % Message-ID: <3DA5A1C2.700@vajhoej.dk>   % winston@SSRL.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU wrote:   O > Actually, the original poster who wanted to suppress the access log said that O > the access log file was showing up as a hotfile in their performance monitor, / > not that Apache was running too slow with it.  > N > My suggestion was that routing the access log to NLA0: would keep the accessI > log from showing up as a hot file, not that it would speed up Apache.     ) I was assuming the purpose of getting rid + of the hot file was to improve performance.  Else I do not see much point.   ; It was also suggested by someone else that it would improve  performance:  H #Sending to NL: will work, as Alan suggests, and will improve throughput: #considerably for those who don't need access information.   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:35:12 -0500 4 From: "Lucas, Edward A (SAIC)" <Edward.Lucas@bp.com> Subject: File convert ? ? Message-ID: <EF1DC894691AD5118AF000508BB85FDE04EF5F70@AMCLVX11>   J This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand< this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.  ; ------=_NextPartTM-000-5b0994c4-dc4f-11d6-b789-0002a58abbf5 $ Content-Type: multipart/alternative;1 	boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C27061.DC32E7DC"   ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C27061.DC32E7DC  Content-Type: text/plain;  	charset="iso-8859-1"   % The problem I am experiencing is fun.    H I have a site in New York printing invoices from a flat file that I sendJ them, If my users need to reprint an invoice we have to use the same image	 they use. I So The New York site has scanned the invoice (form) using "CorelDraw", he K has exported the file in a EPS format.  Once he scanned the form he sent me I the form using outlook.  I then print the scanned image to a file, I then H FTP the file to my Alpha.  I then EDT the file and at the * I do a write$ filename.txt (makes it a txt) I then, convert/fdl=sys$input input-file output-file record format variable  size 0 <ctrl> zL Once I am done I insert the file into my library, create a from with a setup- of the library and attempt to print the form. K I then receive "PSM-E-MODNOTFND, library module NAME not found in record 0"    J Now the New York site is scanning the image using the EPS format, They canB use .PCX, .TIF,.JPG,.BMP and I would think numerous other filters.   J I have the feeling the New York site needs to scan the image using a diff. format.    $ JPG format strips 99.9% of the form.   ! Hmmmmm, this is a new one for me.       2 Can someone please help me.  I am really confused.  ' ------_=_NextPart_001_01C27061.DC32E7DC  Content-Type: text/html; 	charset="iso-8859-1"   > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD>H <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">    < <META content="MSHTML 5.00.3502.4373" name=GENERATOR></HEAD>1 <BODY style="COLOR: #000000; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> O <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>The problem I am experiencing   is fun.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> K <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> K <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>I have a site in New York  Q printing invoices from a flat file that I send them, If my users need to reprint  F an invoice we have to use the same image they use.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>J <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>So The New York site has P scanned the invoice (form) using "CorelDraw", he has exported the file in a EPS P format.&nbsp; Once he scanned the form he sent me the form using outlook.&nbsp; I I then print the&nbsp;scanned image to a file, I then FTP the file to my  O Alpha.&nbsp; I then EDT the file and at the * I do a write filename.txt (makes  $ it a txt) I then</SPAN></FONT></DIV>G <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>convert/fdl=sys$input  * input-file output-file</SPAN></FONT></DIV>K <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>record</SPAN></FONT></DIV> 8 <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>format  variable</SPAN></FONT></DIV>K <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>size 0</SPAN></FONT></DIV> > <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>&lt;ctrl&gt;  z</SPAN></FONT></DIV> M <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>Once I am done I insert the  O file into my library, create a from with a setup of the library and attempt to  # print the form.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> @ <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>I then receive P "PSM-E-MODNOTFND, library module NAME not found in record 0"</SPAN></FONT></DIV>K <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> J <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>Now the New York site is Q scanning the image using the EPS format, They can use .PCX, .TIF,.JPG,.BMP and I  7 would think numerous other filters.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> K <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> Q <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>I have the feeling the New York  F site needs to scan the image using a diff. format.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>K <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> Q <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>.JPG format strips 99.9% of the   form.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> K <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> Q <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>Hmmmmm, this&nbsp;is&nbsp;a new   one for me.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> K <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> K <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV> I <DIV><FONT size=2><SPAN class=885230313-10102002>Can someone please help  A me.&nbsp; I am really confused.</SPAN></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>   ) ------_=_NextPart_001_01C27061.DC32E7DC--   = ------=_NextPartTM-000-5b0994c4-dc4f-11d6-b789-0002a58abbf5--    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:46:14 +0000 2 From: John Eisenschmidt <jweisen@eisenschmidt.org> Subject: Re: File convert ? 4 Message-ID: <20021010134614.A12009@eisenschmidt.org>   EEK!  F EPS is just encapsulated Post Script, why can't you just distill it to9 a PDF with Ghostscript or Acrobat and print it that way?    C Although there are much simpler ways to do it I'm sure. If you have B the source text, why can't you just extract the record and flow it: into the invoice template? Is there something I'm missing.  D Again: EEK! These are the kind of workflow problems I run into every day.  S Unless the Voices are Mistaken, Lucas, Edward A (SAIC) (Edward.Lucas@bp.com) Wrote: ' > The problem I am experiencing is fun.  >   J > I have a site in New York printing invoices from a flat file that I sendL > them, If my users need to reprint an invoice we have to use the same image > they use. K > So The New York site has scanned the invoice (form) using "CorelDraw", he M > has exported the file in a EPS format.  Once he scanned the form he sent me K > the form using outlook.  I then print the scanned image to a file, I then J > FTP the file to my Alpha.  I then EDT the file and at the * I do a write& > filename.txt (makes it a txt) I then. > convert/fdl=sys$input input-file output-file > record > format variable  > size 0
 > <ctrl> zN > Once I am done I insert the file into my library, create a from with a setup/ > of the library and attempt to print the form. M > I then receive "PSM-E-MODNOTFND, library module NAME not found in record 0"  >   L > Now the New York site is scanning the image using the EPS format, They canD > use .PCX, .TIF,.JPG,.BMP and I would think numerous other filters. >   L > I have the feeling the New York site needs to scan the image using a diff.	 > format.  >   & > JPG format strips 99.9% of the form. >   # > Hmmmmm, this is a new one for me.  >    >   4 > Can someone please help me.  I am really confused.     --  / John W. Eisenschmidt <jweisen@eisenschmidt.org> C    Public Key   |  http://www.eisenschmidt.org/jweisen/misc/pgp.asc D    Fingerprint  |  5F9B F916 5AD1 3295 CF99 BC1E 1F97 E6A3 37E3 BEF2J Is this mail an attachment? http://www.jensbenecke.de/misc/outlook.en.html  K "Old Mother Reagan went to heaven but at the pearly gates she was stopped!"    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:22:26 -0400 $ From: "Bill Clark" <bclark@lrgh.org> Subject: Re: File convert ? 6 Message-ID: <uMadnaQptt-qEDigXTWc3w@News.GigaNews.Com>  	 greetings D i once experienced the 'PSM-E' problem you describe, but the cause &$ solution in my case had to do with a Queue definition. J i was using /RESET=NONE on the /SEPARATE parameter - this sent the job off looking for a module- named 'NONE'. problem was solved by /RESET=N. H doesn't sound exactly the same though, does it. good luck... please post your eventual 'fix' , i try  to collect arcana. bclark at lrgh dot org? "Lucas, Edward A (SAIC)" <Edward.Lucas@bp.com> wrote in message 9 news:EF1DC894691AD5118AF000508BB85FDE04EF5F70@AMCLVX11... % The problem I am experiencing is fun.   H I have a site in New York printing invoices from a flat file that I sendJ them, If my users need to reprint an invoice we have to use the same image	 they use. I So The New York site has scanned the invoice (form) using "CorelDraw", he K has exported the file in a EPS format.  Once he scanned the form he sent me I the form using outlook.  I then print the scanned image to a file, I then H FTP the file to my Alpha.  I then EDT the file and at the * I do a write$ filename.txt (makes it a txt) I then, convert/fdl=sys$input input-file output-file record format variable  size 0 <ctrl> zL Once I am done I insert the file into my library, create a from with a setup- of the library and attempt to print the form. K I then receive "PSM-E-MODNOTFND, library module NAME not found in record 0"   J Now the New York site is scanning the image using the EPS format, They canB use .PCX, .TIF,.JPG,.BMP and I would think numerous other filters.  J I have the feeling the New York site needs to scan the image using a diff. format.   % .JPG format strips 99.9% of the form.   ! Hmmmmm, this is a new one for me.     2 Can someone please help me.  I am really confused.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:27:12 GMT = From: peter.watkinson1@<nospam>ntlworld.com (Peter Watkinson) " Subject: Re: graphics card problem2 Message-ID: <3da563bb.10446343@news.cable.ntl.com>  1 On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 20:00:39 -0400, "David Turner"  <dbturner@islandco.com> wrote:  # >go to www.islandco.com/support.htm  >  >      Hi,   E I've got a S3 VGA card plus Hobbyist Open VMS 7.2 and I'm also geting F a no video device error. Is there an S3 kit on the CD that needs to be installed also?    cheers,      Peter Watkinson % peter.watkinson1<nospam>@ntlworld.com  remove <nospam> to reply :-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:52:34 -0400 # From: "Island" <sales@islandco.com> " Subject: Re: graphics card problem/ Message-ID: <uqb1bqjuhcvgcd@news.supernews.com>    Is it a TRIO or a Virge ???      -- David B Turner	 Sales Dpt  Island Computers US Corporation  2700 Gregory Street 	 Suite 180  Savannah GA 31404  Tel: 912 447 6622  Fax: 912 201 0096  sales@islandco.com www.islandco.com' http://www.islandco.com/legal-email.htm    We sell Alpha Systems ! * All emails are checked for Virus and WormsL "peter.watkinson1@ ntlworld.com (Peter Watkinson)" <nospam> wrote in message, news:3da563bb.10446343@news.cable.ntl.com...3 > On Wed, 9 Oct 2002 20:00:39 -0400, "David Turner"   > <dbturner@islandco.com> wrote: > % > >go to www.islandco.com/support.htm  > >  > >  >  >  > Hi,  > G > I've got a S3 VGA card plus Hobbyist Open VMS 7.2 and I'm also geting H > a no video device error. Is there an S3 kit on the CD that needs to be > installed also?  > 	 > cheers,  >  >  > Peter Watkinson ' > peter.watkinson1<nospam>@ntlworld.com  > remove <nospam> to reply :-) >    ------------------------------    Date: 10 Oct 2002 07:44:07 -07005 From: Craig A. Berry <craigberry@nospam.telocity.com> " Subject: Re: graphics card problem3 Message-ID: <20021010094407033-0500@brianor.local.>   = In <ao20eb$fbn$03$1@news.t-online.com> Reinhard Eigner wrote:   I > I've got a Digital PWS 600a (MX5), with a Elsa Gloria Synergy graphics  I > cars and a SCSI-CD-ROM. Today I installed OpenVMS 7.2, but I don't get   > a graphical desktop.    H Support for that card is not included with v7.2.  It might be somewhere H separate on the system CD (that's how worked in 7.2-1), but the easiest E way to get it is just install the latest graphics ECO, which for you   would be here:  G <http://ftp1.support.compaq.com/patches/public/vms/axp/v7.2/dec-axpvms- ( vms72_graphics-v0100--4.pcsi-dcx_axpexe>   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Oct 2002 07:16:01 -0600B From: clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP (Simon Clubley)" Subject: Re: Hobbyist kit Contents3 Message-ID: <pNsTCzOpt6Vo@eisner.encompasserve.org>   [ In article <3DA3986D.D2D21442@fsi.net>, "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes:  > Stuart Johnson wrote:  >>  M >> Does anyone have any information on what is going to be in the forthcoming J >> hobbyist kits from Montgar? I am hoping that it will contail the entireF >> layered products disks, ie. be the full OS distribution and layered" >> products. I can dream, can't I? > I > Well, if you can dream up a way to cram a couple gigabytes of data onto C > a 650MB CD-ROM, yes, I guess you can dream. Otherwise, a multi-CD G > distribution would be called for and that would likely push the price H > into territory that would make it prohibitive to the very audience the( > hobbyist program is intended to reach. >   H Use ZIP compression. A quick example using the Ada Predefined Libraries:  ; The file size in blocks as downloaded from the VMS website:    ADAPAL035.EXE;1         8025   The expanded saveset:    ADAPAL035.A;1          30798  D [Note that the compressed saveset is in ZIP format, not DCX format.]   So, a couple of ideas:  H 1) Continue with the 1 CD per architecture that is currently in use, andI leave the most common layered products in uncompressed form, but load the , rest of the CD with zipped layered products.  F 2) Continue with the architecture specific CD as now, leaving the sameF layered products on the CD in uncompressed format. However, produce anK additional architecture specific layered product CD and fit as many layered 5 products on this CD in compressed format as possible.   J My preference is for option 2, and if David charges another US$30 for thisJ CD on top of the US$30 that he charges as the moment, that is a price I am happy with.    Simon.   --  B Simon Clubley, clubley@remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP       + Microsoft: The Lada of the computing world.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 18:46:03 +0200 6 From: Arne =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>" Subject: Re: Hobbyist kit Contents) Message-ID: <3DA5AECB.2000508@vajhoej.dk>i   Stuart Johnson wrote:g  K > I wasn't expecting to see the contents of 10 or so CD's put onto one CD -sN > however I hadn't considered DVD at all. I wasn't aware of support for DVD inD > OpenVMS, VAX or Alpha computers. Is this a supported media in this > environment?   Good question.  4 I do not remember having seen DVD support announced.  9 But usually a SCSI or IDE device is a SCSI or IDE device, 7 so I would assume a DVD with an ODS-2 file-system would  be read by VMS.v  6 And when IA-64 systsem with VMS start shipping, then I2 would assume all systems to ship with a DVD drive.  0 Has anyone tried putting a DVD drive in an Alpha and tried it ?   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:10:07 -0700 ' From: David Mathog <mathog@caltech.edu>t) Subject: HoPping along with two left feet * Message-ID: <3DA5984F.8010203@caltech.edu>  < A nice lady called me yesterday to inquire if I was going to= be attending the Virtual Memory System event on October 30th.e  2 If I hadn't heard it, I wouldn't have believed it.  7 Eventually it became clear that she meant an OpenVMS on  Itanic event of some sort.  2 So I had to tell her I wasn't interested because I didn't use VMS anymore.r  5 And no, sorry, I didn't know anybody on campus likelyn to ever use OpenVMS on Itanic.  5 And no, sorry, there wasn't a single other HP productW% that I wanted to know anything about.W   Which ended the conversation.n  : The folks in VMS engineering might want to investigate who9 HP has making these calls and why they were given such anS odd script to read from.   -- g David Mathog mathog@caltech.edu> Manager, Sequence Analysis Facility, Biology Division, Caltech   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:53:21 -0700 (PDT)r. From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> Subject: Re: legato for OpenvmsX@ Message-ID: <20021010165321.98901.qmail@web20203.mail.yahoo.com>  = There is another company reselling Legato for OpenVMS agents.E I dont remember. a  ? Should be time to HP/Compaq to make an agreement with Legato tof$ merge the Legato and ABS softwares !  , How many copies of ABS are sold worldwide ?   8 HP/Compaq should rethink some storage related softwares.         Regards3   FC a0 --- labadie <labadie_g.tocardsa@decus.fr> wrote: > Helloa > 	 > Readingu6 > http://www.legato.com/products/networker/openvms.cfm: > I wanted some more information about Legato for Openvms:+ > is it available for Openvms Alpha 7.2-2 ?- > when is it available ?) > I naively sent an email on that page atl > openvms@legato.com > and my mail came back & > The recipient name is not recognized > !! > ! > More information appreciated...X > 	 > regardsd >  > Grard >  >  >      =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazilh fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?2 Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 04:47:23 -0400t- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> . Subject: MAIL$SEND : Set the date of message ?, Message-ID: <3DA53E99.E18D9400@videotron.ca>  L the MAIL$SEND_ATTRIBUTE routine allows one, if privileged, to set the "from"
 of a message.r  A Does anyone know if there is a way to set the date of a message ?t  H For instance, if a message took a day to get delivered, I would like theM VMSmail timestamp to show the actual time of the message instance of the time  that VMSmail received it.y  L Does TCPIP Services' SMTO gateway manager to set the VMSmail dat for inboundN messages, or does it allow the VMSmail date to be dignificantly different from, the date in the RFC headers of the message ?   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:54:23 +0100 (MET)T9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> . Subject: MAIL$SEND : Set the date of message ?; Message-ID: <01KNHWW7HY2G9QWKOO@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>u  G > the MAIL$SEND_ATTRIBUTE routine allows one, if privileged, to set thec > "from" of a message. b  G At another level, TCPIP$SMTP_FROM allows anyone to set it (for his own r mail).  C > Does anyone know if there is a way to set the date of a message ?d > J > For instance, if a message took a day to get delivered, I would like theJ > VMSmail timestamp to show the actual time of the message instance of the! > time that VMSmail received it. d  " Isn't this in the RFC 822 headers?  F > Does TCPIP Services' SMTO gateway manager to set the VMSmail dat forI > inbound messages, or does it allow the VMSmail date to be dignificantly > > different from the date in the RFC headers of the message ?   F I'm pretty sure that the VMS-MAIL date is the time it gets written to  the VMS-MAIL file.   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Oct 2002 10:10:25 -0000= From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> 2 Subject: Re: MAIL$SEND : Set the date of message ?6 Message-ID: <20021010101025.10891.qmail@gacracker.org>  C On Thu, 10 Oct 2002, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote:hM >the MAIL$SEND_ATTRIBUTE routine allows one, if privileged, to set the "from"7 >of a message. >.B >Does anyone know if there is a way to set the date of a message ? >II >For instance, if a message took a day to get delivered, I would like the N >VMSmail timestamp to show the actual time of the message instance of the time >that VMSmail received it. >sM >Does TCPIP Services' SMTO gateway manager to set the VMSmail dat for inboundaO >messages, or does it allow the VMSmail date to be dignificantly different from'- >the date in the RFC headers of the message ?   J I'm not quite sure what you're asking for here, and my experience has been with Multinet, not TCPIP/UCX.   L I think what you're looking for are the Received: headers. Looking at a mail I've recently received I see:F  '     #1          10-OCT-2002 07:48:45.73    <snip>  M Received: from <censored>.com ([aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd]) by vmsbox.cjb.net with SMTP D           for <someone>@vmsbox.cjb.net; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 7:48:43 GMTH Received: (qmail 32275 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2002 03:00:53 -00005 Received: from unknown (HELO <you>) (ppp.qqq.rrr.sss) ,   by 0 with SMTP; 10 Oct 2002 03:00:53 -0000  L The first Received: matches the timestamp in VMS Mail, and I think the qmailJ machine that sent me this doesn't have its timezone properly set, or it is$ just really slow at processing mail.  M Each SMTP server that touches a piece of mail should insert its own Received: H header at the top of the list, of course, spammers preset some Received:J headers to try and make tracing them more difficult. It may be possible toN guess that a message is spam if it has more Received: headers than you usually get.     Doc. -- 46 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.K ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.                             https://vmsbox.cjb.nete   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:10:19 -04000- From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca>e2 Subject: Re: MAIL$SEND : Set the date of message ?+ Message-ID: <3DA56E18.6CB78AD@videotron.ca>    "Doc.Cypher" wrote:v2 > I'm not quite sure what you're asking for here,   G Ok, when I use the MAIL$SEND_xxx routines to create and send a VMS maileJ message, is there a way to specific the timestamp of the VMSmail message ?F (like there is to specify the name of the sender, if you have sysprv).  K In other words, if I create a mail message from a blob of information which.L contains a time stamp inside, could I tell VMSmail to deliver the message to. user JDOE with a timestamp  I have specified ?   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:33:43 GMT 0 From: "warren sander" <warren.sander@compaq.com> Subject: Re: Mozilla and CSS2 Message-ID: <XRip9.32$8_3.529479@news.cpqcorp.net>   change( <link rel=Stylesheet href="../stil.css"> to8 <link rel=Stylesheet href="../stil.css" type="text/css">  4 "Colin Blake" <colin@theblakes.com> wrote in message$ news:3D9B24DA.10808@theblakes.com... > John Eisenschmidt wrote: >ID > >If I had to guess though, I'd say your CSS isn't following a rule4 > >properly. Have you used the CSS checker from W3C? > >oG > The css itself is valid, but its being served as text instead of css.  > See my previous reply. >    ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:03:18 GMTs0 From: "warren sander" <warren.sander@compaq.com>, Subject: Re: New www.openvms.compaq.com site2 Message-ID: <axhp9.27$hZ3.502821@news.cpqcorp.net>   done..  G and most mail sent to the web server gets bounced.. They did that causei? there were LOTS of DOS attacks happening and lots of SPAM going)L to the web sites.. So use openvms-info@hp.com-remove or fill in the feedbackH form, hit the 'contact hp' (I have no idea where that stuff will go). orB the 'contact the webmaster' at the bottom of every page (in the hp
 format)...   -warrena  < "C.W.Holeman II" <cwhii5@Julian5Locals.com> wrote in message> news:o4Qk9.2445$Rt5.219942@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net... > Fabio Cardoso wrote: >_0 > > The site www.openvms.compaq.com is changing. > ...s$ > > But what about putting a link to > >: > > www.openvms.org there????  > I > Probably an e-mail to something like webmaster@openvms.compaq.com wouldC > be a good idea.y >m > -- > C.W.Holeman II > cwhii5@Julian5Locals.com > remove the fives > http://also.as/cwhii   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:59:52 -0700 (PDT)t. From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>, Subject: Re: New www.openvms.compaq.com site? Message-ID: <20021010165952.2744.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com>g   In factJ  : I still thinking that is needed to create an OpenVMS logo.E Should be good to use the OpenVMS logo from Openvms.org (with no org)YJ in all OpenVMS softwares and boxes, and docs, etc .... may be in the Motif< screen from DecWindows - It was DEC, Compaq and HP now ! :-), Just to remember the D-I-G-T-A-L logo ! :-)   E As nobody wants to reborn the OpenVMS Shark ! Sharks eat penguins, orq. , swim with them - depends on the target ! :-)   Regard     FC 13 --- warren sander <warren.sander@compaq.com> wrote:i > done.. > I > and most mail sent to the web server gets bounced.. They did that cause>A > there were LOTS of DOS attacks happening and lots of SPAM goingtN > to the web sites.. So use openvms-info@hp.com-remove or fill in the feedbackJ > form, hit the 'contact hp' (I have no idea where that stuff will go). orD > the 'contact the webmaster' at the bottom of every page (in the hp > format)... > 	 > -warrenh > > > "C.W.Holeman II" <cwhii5@Julian5Locals.com> wrote in message@ > news:o4Qk9.2445$Rt5.219942@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net... > > Fabio Cardoso wrote: > >>2 > > > The site www.openvms.compaq.com is changing. > > ...d& > > > But what about putting a link to > > >  > > > www.openvms.org there????a > >tK > > Probably an e-mail to something like webmaster@openvms.compaq.com would- > > be a good idea.0 > >2 > > -- > > C.W.Holeman II > > cwhii5@Julian5Locals.com > > remove the fives > > http://also.as/cwhii >  >      =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazilo fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?2 Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:07:07 GMTd0 From: "warren sander" <warren.sander@compaq.com>, Subject: Re: OpenVMS 25th anniversary survey2 Message-ID: <LAhp9.28$XX3.472173@news.cpqcorp.net>  J I'm an idiot boy... it seems that on netscape when you have 'checked' on a@ radio button it will allow both (all) buttons to be on. On IE itI sets the first one, the when the second on is found it unchecks the first- and checks the second..-  L I fixed the survey. There were only a couple of folks who filled it out thatE way. If there is an email address on the form I'll send them email to % please re-take. if not please retake.t  I one other thing. Those 'other' spaces are for short answers. Please don't ! dump huge hunks of info in there.    -warren    --B ------------------------------------------------------------------B Warren Sander                        World-Wide eBusiness - hp.comG Hewlett-Packard Company              Work:  warren.sander@remove.hp.comcL 200 Forest Street MR01-3/J1          Personal: sander@remove.ma.ultranet.com3 Marlboro, MA 01752                   (508) 467-4875n5    My opinions are my own and I only speak for myselfn,          Read http://www.openvms.compaq.com/B ------------------------------------------------------------------    5 "Nic Clews" <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> wrote in message # news:3D918ADC.E4F05524@127.0.0.1...o > Kenneth Farmer wrote:r > >o > >o: > > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/25th/survey.html >sA > On Netscape 4.79, *both* radio buttons (for some questions) areu" > selected, and I can't deselect ! > F > I'll try LYNX... Oh, appears to work, seems my face doesn't fit if I' > happen to use 4.79 of Netscape. Sigh.  >  > --A > Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences  > nclews at csc dot com.   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:11:46 GMT 0 From: "warren sander" <warren.sander@compaq.com>, Subject: Re: OpenVMS 25th anniversary survey2 Message-ID: <6Fhp9.29$uZ3.513112@news.cpqcorp.net>  L The reason that every field has a answer marked is to facilitate getting the answers into a DB.  H The problem with HTML forms is that if there isn't an answer checked the; field doesn't get sent. That means that instead of having arG dumb program to read the mail message. knowing there are 152 fields andM@ pulling them and putting them into a db it has to know what eachJ field name is, and what order it comes in. then if one is missed it has toE advance to sync things back up.. I haven't gotten around to writing a-J program that does that so you are all stuck with answers already selected.H I'm working on it.. Hey it's been 6 years and I just re-wrote my programK to handle any form automatically rather than having to program in the fieldrI sizes and where the answers are in the mail message. I will get around todL handling the rest but I still have 5000 pages to convert to the new hp brandF and then I have to re-brand the site again to the new-new-new hp brandK (notice the extra new's). there will probably be a new-new-new-new hp brande by the time I get started.   -warrenC  : "Bob Koehler" <koehler@encompasserve.org> wrote in message- news:jR9wcX3ItYWt@eisner.encompasserve.org...e5 > In article <3D918ADC.E4F05524@127.0.0.1>, Nic Clews.  <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> writes: > > Kenneth Farmer wrote:a > >> > >>; > >> http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/25th/survey.html- > >-C > > On Netscape 4.79, *both* radio buttons (for some questions) aren$ > > selected, and I can't deselect ! > >:H > > I'll try LYNX... Oh, appears to work, seems my face doesn't fit if I) > > happen to use 4.79 of Netscape. Sigh.I >3K >    Nice of them to provide the answer to the first eBusiness CD question.eG >    Do they think they'll get an accurate assesment of their marketingd >    this way?   ------------------------------  # Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 16:14:05 GMT 0 From: "warren sander" <warren.sander@compaq.com>, Subject: Re: OpenVMS 25th anniversary survey2 Message-ID: <hHhp9.30$f04.587804@news.cpqcorp.net>  J the validator is VERY anal in how it validates. There are lots of tags you can leave out etc.  I I do all this html by hand. I don't use any programs to create it so it'sa8 not like dreamweaver etc that will fill in extra stuff..      : "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message- news:MGdUwhxg6TQB@eisner.encompasserve.org...m4 > In article <25SEP02.16373694@thuria.waisman.wisc>,6 karcher@thuria.waisman.wisc.edu (Carl Karcher) writes:F > > -> On Netscape 4.79, *both* radio buttons (for some questions) are' > > -> selected, and I can't deselect !o > >M+ > > But amazingly, Mozilla 1.1 worked fine!n >h > http://validator.w3.org/ >e > finds 87 errors for me inr > 8 > http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/25th/survey.html >1   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 22:06:36 +0800i" From: "KCLim" <karchoon@tm.net.my>. Subject: OVMS Concurrent user (update license)) Message-ID: <3da58a35$1_2@news.tm.net.my>r   Hi,e  : Can someone please clarify for me what is update license..  J I wanna migrate from VAX to Alpha and it is my understanding that the OVMSJ user license can be upgraded to the Alpha OVMS. Is this update license? If< not, what is. I can't seem to find anything on the OVMS SPD.   Any help is appreciated.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:35:19 -0600  From: Kevin Handy <kth@srv.net>:2 Subject: Re: OVMS Concurrent user (update license)& Message-ID: <3DA59E37.9060309@srv.net>   KCLim wrote: > Hi,a > < > Can someone please clarify for me what is update license.. > L > I wanna migrate from VAX to Alpha and it is my understanding that the OVMSL > user license can be upgraded to the Alpha OVMS. Is this update license? If> > not, what is. I can't seem to find anything on the OVMS SPD. >  > Any help is appreciated. >   : Not all user licenses can be transfered from VAX to ALPHA.5 Only specific ones can.  Verify that yours can before@5 expecting it to be doable, and get part numbers, else 8 you will be told you can, and after buying the hardware,4 find out you can't.  Benn there, done that, have the t-shirt.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 21:52:07 +1000o: From: forMsytAhm@optusShome.com.aKu (Mark(un-MASK)Forsyth)/ Subject: Re: OVMS Samba and Win2000 Native moder8 Message-ID: <slrnaqaqf5.366.forMsytAhm@plague.bogus.com>  S On 9 Oct 2002 16:53:23 -0700, rob merritt <merritt.robert@spsd.sk.ca> gushed forth:p >Him >e > B >is it possible to set up Sasmaba for OpenVMS to work in a Win2000 >Native DomainG >If so how ie security=user, security=server etc. I am trying to avoindaB >using PathWorks because of the cost (it sure works well PW 6.1 in >win2000 native)  C I got it to work OK but, I suspect, only because I have a Linux box:P also running Samba. I put "security = server" and "password server = <Linux box>F in smb.conf. It's pretty slow but it works well enough for me at home.3 In a work environment it would be intolerably slow.i       -- e     Ooroos	 Mark F...f  $ Another Optus Cable Traffic Monitor.3 http://www.members.optushome.com.au/forsythm/traff/f   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:51:25 -0700 (PDT)_. From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>/ Subject: Re: OVMS Samba and Win2000 Native modep? Message-ID: <20021010165125.1358.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com>s  ) How many companies are using Pathworks ? g. We are not using for a long time - since V4.1.. May be is time to HP/Compaq open this software+ to the Linux community. Another option thanr- Samba ! Or may be...giving Pathworks fonts tor- the Samba community for improvment. We shouldr, have a Sambaworks ! :-) No Brazil related !    Regardsg  
 Fabio Cardoso     2 --- rob merritt <merritt.robert@spsd.sk.ca> wrote: > Hi >  > C > is it possible to set up Sasmaba for OpenVMS to work in a Win2000t > Native DomainoH > If so how ie security=user, security=server etc. I am trying to avoindC > using PathWorks because of the cost (it sure works well PW 6.1 ine > win2000 native)p > ' > here is my smb.conf I am working withm > 
 > [global]5 >    server string = Samba %v running on %h (OpenVMS)e >    workgroup = SCHOOLS >    encrypt passwords = Yes > ;   mangled names = No >    hide dot files = No >    map system = Yesk >    printing = bsdr> >    printcap name = /sys$sysroot/tcpip$lpd/tcpip$printcap.dat@ >    print command = print %s /queue=%p /delete/name=SAMBA_PRINT* >    lppause command = samba_lppause %p %j, >    lpresume command = samba_lpresume %p %j" >    lpq command = samba_lpstat %p$ >    lprm command = samba_lprm %p %j? > ;   lpq cache time = 0 ;future when next OpenVMS release uses3 > SYS$GETQUI()9 > ;   smbrun = project_root:[samba_vms.bin]smbrun.exe_axp- >    load printers = yes@ > ;   socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192@ >    socket options = SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192 SO_KEEPALIVEH > ;  You will need a world readable lock directory and "share modes=yes"E > ;  if you want to support the file sharing modes for multiple usersl > ;  of the same files0 > ;  lock directory = /usr/local/samba/var/locks >   share modes = yes0 >   security = usere >   > any hints would be appreciated > 
 > Thanks RobMt     =====u ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - BrazilO fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?2 Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:30:34 +0100l- From: "Steve Spires" <Steve.Spires@torex.com>t5 Subject: Problem copying large files from VMS to Unix E Message-ID: <91947A84607D9D48B8E674A5FAB54DA63CB04F@tahiti.tinuk.com>   D [Apologies again if this seems to be appearing on the list more thanB once. Tried to post from google, but didn't see it appear in theirE archive for the last two days, so I've had to flount company regs and-' subscribe at least for the short time!]/    F Odd problem - or not depending on your point of view - but I am havingG difficulty copying files from a VMS box to a unix box running Dec Unix.<G It seems to be related to the size of the file, but I'm unsure if therecB is some kind of hard-coded limit - I haven't found one yet looking through the manuals.  F The files are DSM volumes, and vary in size, the largest two being 4GbC and 6Gb. These files won't copy by any means I've tried - FTP, RCP,i9 VMSTAR to tape, even using NFS and trying to import them.>  ? Can someone either let me know if there IS a file size limit onbG transfers of this type, if not what am I doing wrong, and if anyone hasY, an idea of how I can get these files across?  
 TIA (I hope!)    Steve ST  B Versions - OpenVMS 7.2-1, TCPIP Services 5.1 and Digital Unix 4.0F   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:35:31 +0100 (MET)D9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>v9 Subject: Re: Problem copying large files from VMS to Unixu; Message-ID: <01KNHYC9DYTA9QWKOO@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>S  H > The files are DSM volumes, and vary in size, the largest two being 4GbE > and 6Gb. These files won't copy by any means I've tried - FTP, RCP,<; > VMSTAR to tape, even using NFS and trying to import them.-  I Are you sure that they are not being copied, or is it taking just a very -F long time?  Copying large files from VMS to VMS over DECNET, a lot of 6 time can be spent allocating space on the target disk.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:41:50 +02002 From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>9 Subject: Re: Problem copying large files from VMS to Unixp& Message-ID: <3DA5596E.9020708@home.nl>  I It may well be that there is a file size limit on the Unix system (maybe 3F 2GB). It may depend on the Unix version in use, and maybe on the file G system. Try to ask this question in comp.unix.tru64, becuase I'm quite 0" sure it is a Unix limit somewhere.   Steve Spires wrote:u  E >[Apologies again if this seems to be appearing on the list more thandC >once. Tried to post from google, but didn't see it appear in their F >archive for the last two days, so I've had to flount company regs and( >subscribe at least for the short time!] >s > G >Odd problem - or not depending on your point of view - but I am having H >difficulty copying files from a VMS box to a unix box running Dec Unix.H >It seems to be related to the size of the file, but I'm unsure if thereC >is some kind of hard-coded limit - I haven't found one yet looking) >through the manuals.W >eG >The files are DSM volumes, and vary in size, the largest two being 4GbwD >and 6Gb. These files won't copy by any means I've tried - FTP, RCP,: >VMSTAR to tape, even using NFS and trying to import them. > @ >Can someone either let me know if there IS a file size limit onH >transfers of this type, if not what am I doing wrong, and if anyone has- >an idea of how I can get these files across?o >o >TIA (I hope!) >h >Steve S >gC >Versions - OpenVMS 7.2-1, TCPIP Services 5.1 and Digital Unix 4.0Fe >  a >h   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:25:01 +0100$) From: Antonio Carlini <arcarlini@iee.org>o9 Subject: Re: Problem copying large files from VMS to Unixs$ Message-ID: <3DA5719D.30003@iee.org>   Steve Spires wrote:fH > The files are DSM volumes, and vary in size, the largest two being 4GbE > and 6Gb. These files won't copy by any means I've tried - FTP, RCP, ; > VMSTAR to tape, even using NFS and trying to import them.n > D > Versions - OpenVMS 7.2-1, TCPIP Services 5.1 and Digital Unix 4.0F  ; I have no good news, but thanks for saving me the effort ofa= worrying about an upgrade: I have the same issue with an 8+GBf> file on OpenVMS Alpha V6.2 (and UCX V4.2). I've tried ftp from; a Win2K box and a Solaris box and I've tried pushing to the = Solaris box too. Sadly the local DU box does not seem to havei= DECnet installed, and I'm not sure where the installation CDs  live, otherwise I'd try that.   > I know that files up at least 2GB can be transferred. In fact,< I'm 90% sure that at least one file of 4GB or so did make it8 as far as the Win2K box (that's when I found that WinZip= has an limit on the size of the input file it will compress -2 2GB or so, IIRC).r  @ Have a go at using DECnet - then I'll know whether it's worth me- digging out the CDs and upgrading our DU box!.  9 Failing that, I'm going to have to split the file up intou6 1GB chunks. Or maybe write something that will concoct6 a fake file header that points at a specific 1GB chunk8 of the real data I want (not a nice thing to do but it's3 a scratch volume set and I don't have another spareS 8GB to play with ...)x   Antonioa   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:16:43 -0400 5 From: David Beatty <David.Beatty@qwertysasasdfgh.com>a9 Subject: Re: Problem copying large files from VMS to UnixE2 Message-ID: <4m6lPVL4GJT1ED9Zr6Su3DFsFH2z@4ax.com>  @ There is a 2GB limit for NFS V2, which is the version of the NFS< client for Digital TCP/IP Services V5.1.  See pages 1-26 and 1-27 of the Release Notes.   David R. Beatty   C On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:41:50 +0200, Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote:e  J >It may well be that there is a file size limit on the Unix system (maybe G >2GB). It may depend on the Unix version in use, and maybe on the file  H >system. Try to ask this question in comp.unix.tru64, becuase I'm quite # >sure it is a Unix limit somewhere.e >e >Steve Spires wrote: >hF >>[Apologies again if this seems to be appearing on the list more thanD >>once. Tried to post from google, but didn't see it appear in theirG >>archive for the last two days, so I've had to flount company regs andm) >>subscribe at least for the short time!]y >> >>H >>Odd problem - or not depending on your point of view - but I am havingI >>difficulty copying files from a VMS box to a unix box running Dec Unix.kI >>It seems to be related to the size of the file, but I'm unsure if therecD >>is some kind of hard-coded limit - I haven't found one yet looking >>through the manuals. >>H >>The files are DSM volumes, and vary in size, the largest two being 4GbE >>and 6Gb. These files won't copy by any means I've tried - FTP, RCP,M; >>VMSTAR to tape, even using NFS and trying to import them.s >>A >>Can someone either let me know if there IS a file size limit on3I >>transfers of this type, if not what am I doing wrong, and if anyone has . >>an idea of how I can get these files across? >> >>TIA (I hope!)  >>	 >>Steve Si >>D >>Versions - OpenVMS 7.2-1, TCPIP Services 5.1 and Digital Unix 4.0F >>   >>   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Oct 2002 10:02:31 -0600+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) 9 Subject: Re: Problem copying large files from VMS to Unixo3 Message-ID: <Bt1bxePuDFmK@eisner.encompasserve.org>   u In article <91947A84607D9D48B8E674A5FAB54DA63CB04F@tahiti.tinuk.com>, "Steve Spires" <Steve.Spires@torex.com> writes:uF > [Apologies again if this seems to be appearing on the list more thanD > once. Tried to post from google, but didn't see it appear in theirG > archive for the last two days, so I've had to flount company regs and:) > subscribe at least for the short time!]a >  > H > Odd problem - or not depending on your point of view - but I am havingI > difficulty copying files from a VMS box to a unix box running Dec Unix.PI > It seems to be related to the size of the file, but I'm unsure if therelD > is some kind of hard-coded limit - I haven't found one yet looking > through the manuals. > H > The files are DSM volumes, and vary in size, the largest two being 4GbE > and 6Gb. These files won't copy by any means I've tried - FTP, RCP,g; > VMSTAR to tape, even using NFS and trying to import them.C > A > Can someone either let me know if there IS a file size limit on I > transfers of this type, if not what am I doing wrong, and if anyone hasr. > an idea of how I can get these files across? >    	ulimit2  % 	Poke around in groups.google.com .. <  f http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=kj8zppl3xo.fsf%40alpha0.bioch.virginia.edu&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain  ( 	check ulimit -a and adjust accordingly.   				Robo   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:12:27 -0400l- From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca>-1 Subject: PSM-E-MODNOTFND (Was Re: File convert ?)g5 Message-ID: <ao45cu$ivg9q$1@ID-141708.news.dfncis.de>    Lucas, Edward A (SAIC) wrote:g >...  K Cut out a lot of stuff that seems like way too much work, but if that's thei way you want to do it...  F > Once I am done I insert the file into my library, create a from with7 > a setup of the library and attempt to print the form.eC > I then receive "PSM-E-MODNOTFND, library module NAME not found in- > record 0"- >...  L The print symbiont only opens the library file when the symbiont is started,I if you add a new library module then you need to restart the symbiont. IfCJ you stop and restart the one queue then it may be started using a symbiontJ that is already running and accessing the old library, so the best thing IK have found is to stop all queues that use that particular library file then  restart them all.b   P.S.8 Please do not post in HTML, plain text is so much nicer.   -- Peter WeaverD Opinions are my own, and do not reflect the opinions of my employer,A nor the company that it sub-contracts to, nor the company that it  sub-contracts to.o   ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 10:45:09 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>p' Subject: Re: singular and plural of VAXl; Message-ID: <01KNHWL06DWY9QWKOO@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>o  < > N, I was simply pointing out that the association with the@ > feminine formant was a stretch.  Everybody knows that VAXen is > plural and not feminine.    F Interestingly, it is DIE Vax (feminine) in German.  Computer, Rechner G etc are masculine.  It is DIE Maschine, but I doubt that is why VAX is   feminine in German.t  ' > And I hope this Horse is dead because ' > it doesn't have a lot to do with VMS!r   Indeed; alas, we have drifted.   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Oct 2002 08:00:28 -0600- From: koehler@encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)i' Subject: Re: singular and plural of VAXn3 Message-ID: <W6GJthkt2Q36@eisner.encompasserve.org>n  w In article <01KNHWL06DWY9QWKOO@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>, Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> writes:cH > Interestingly, it is DIE Vax (feminine) in German.  Computer, Rechner I > etc are masculine.  It is DIE Maschine, but I doubt that is why VAX is 0 > feminine in German.   )    So is it die VMS, der VMS, or das VMS?    ------------------------------  + Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:02:43 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>-' Subject: Re: singular and plural of VAX ; Message-ID: <01KNI5LBE9E49QWKOO@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>r  * >   So is it die VMS, der VMS, or das VMS?  C Das VMS, weil das System.  "Die VMS" is the battle cry of the unix e geeks!   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:09:55 +0200 C From: Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann <vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de>o' Subject: Re: singular and plural of VAXr> Message-ID: <00A153F7.8DF238C3.2@CHCLU.CHEMIE.UNI-KONSTANZ.DE>  " Das VMS-(Betriebssystem) = VMS-OS.   eberhard   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 15:05:44 +0200 + From: Roland Barmettler <rob@bbp.ch.remove>s' Subject: Re: singular and plural of VAXI7 Message-ID: <20021010150544.0f6be587.rob@bbp.ch.remove>e   Bob Koehler schrieb:E > In article <01KNHWL06DWY9QWKOO@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>, Phillip 5 > Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> writes: A > > Interestingly, it is DIE Vax (feminine) in German.  Computer,cD > > Rechner etc are masculine.  It is DIE Maschine, but I doubt that% > > is why VAX is feminine in German.e > + >    So is it die VMS, der VMS, or das VMS?n   _das_ VMS  ;-) t   Greetings, Rolandt  F --------------- bbp - Biveroni Batschelet Partners AG ----------------:              Bahnhofstrasse 28, CH-5401 Baden, SwitzerlandF ----------------------------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:09:21 -0400a5 From: "Bochnik, William J" <William_Bochnik@acml.com>.' Subject: RE: singular and plural of VAXoO Message-ID: <2D75787AAF09C64481BDFD89113BE6D528A1E9@ac2kama0102.ac.lp.acml.com>r  A I vote "VAXEN" like the plural of box - boxen (thanks Jim Breuer)oG btw personal peeve - rebooted a Microsh*t box today - checkdisk insistst plural of index is indexes - hag      I The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged andeJ confidential information and is intended only for the use of the person(s)L named above.  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Please also note that toJ satisfy regulatory requirements we review the outgoing and incoming e-mail: correspondence of staff members serving certain functions.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:41:09 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>=' Subject: RE: singular and plural of VAXm9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIOECLFOAA.tom@kednos.com>r  : indexes and indices are not the same.  Microsoft is right!   >-----Original Message-----h; >From: Bochnik, William J [mailto:William_Bochnik@acml.com]p) >Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:09 AM- >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com( >Subject: RE: singular and plural of VAX >e >pB >I vote "VAXEN" like the plural of box - boxen (thanks Jim Breuer)H >btw personal peeve - rebooted a Microsh*t box today - checkdisk insists  >plural of index is indexes - ha >  >  > J >The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged andK >confidential information and is intended only for the use of the person(s) ; >named above.  If you are not the intended recipient, or ant >employee or agentG >responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, anyeL >review, dissemination, distribution or duplication of this communication isK >strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact E >the sender immediately by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the I >original message. 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Please also note that toaK >satisfy regulatory requirements we review the outgoing and incoming e-mailn; >correspondence of staff members serving certain functions.e >  >m >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.s; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).sA >Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 10/3/2002e >  ---e& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).@ Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 10/3/2002   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 12:58:14 -0400 5 From: "Bochnik, William J" <William_Bochnik@acml.com> ' Subject: RE: singular and plural of VAX O Message-ID: <2D75787AAF09C64481BDFD89113BE6D528A1EC@ac2kama0102.ac.lp.acml.com>:  J actually, according to disctionary.com, indexes and indices are both valid* plurals for index, and are the same thing.     -----Original Message-----) From: Tom Linden [mailto:tom@kednos.com] n Sent: October 10, 2002 12:41 PMm- To: Bochnik, William J; Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Come' Subject: RE: singular and plural of VAX?    : indexes and indices are not the same.  Microsoft is right!   >-----Original Message-----s; >From: Bochnik, William J [mailto:William_Bochnik@acml.com]i) >Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:09 AMC >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com( >Subject: RE: singular and plural of VAX >m >aG >I vote "VAXEN" like the plural of box - boxen (thanks Jim Breuer) btw 'E >personal peeve - rebooted a Microsh*t box today - checkdisk insists w  >plural of index is indexes - ha >p >e > G >The information contained in this transmission may contain privileged oF >and confidential information and is intended only for the use of the F >person(s) named above.  If you are not the intended recipient, or an B >employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the @ >intended recipient, any review, dissemination, distribution or F >duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you are F >not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately by E >reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. 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Please also note that toJ satisfy regulatory requirements we review the outgoing and incoming e-mail: correspondence of staff members serving certain functions.   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:55:01 -0700a# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> ' Subject: RE: singular and plural of VAXa9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJICECNFOAA.tom@kednos.com>w   Use a real dictionary!   >-----Original Message-----m; >From: Bochnik, William J [mailto:William_Bochnik@acml.com]e) >Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:58 AMe >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com( >Subject: RE: singular and plural of VAX >c >hK >actually, according to disctionary.com, indexes and indices are both valido+ >plurals for index, and are the same thing.h >c >a >-----Original Message-----t) >From: Tom Linden [mailto:tom@kednos.com]b  >Sent: October 10, 2002 12:41 PM. >To: Bochnik, William J; Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com( >Subject: RE: singular and plural of VAX >m >a; >indexes and indices are not the same.  Microsoft is right!e >. >>-----Original Message-----< >>From: Bochnik, William J [mailto:William_Bochnik@acml.com]* >>Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:09 AM >>To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com ) >>Subject: RE: singular and plural of VAXb >> >>G >>I vote "VAXEN" like the plural of box - boxen (thanks Jim Breuer) btw E >>personal peeve - rebooted a Microsh*t box today - checkdisk insists ! >>plural of index is indexes - ha  >> >> >>G >>The information contained in this transmission may contain privilegedcF >>and confidential information and is intended only for the use of theF >>person(s) named above.  If you are not the intended recipient, or anB >>employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the@ >>intended recipient, any review, dissemination, distribution orF >>duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you areF >>not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately byE >>reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. 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Please also note that tonK >satisfy regulatory requirements we review the outgoing and incoming e-mail ; >correspondence of staff members serving certain functions.h >  >. >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.s; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). A >Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 10/3/2002  >' ---u& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).@ Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 10/3/2002   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:54:20 -0700n# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> ' Subject: RE: singular and plural of VAXe9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIMECMFOAA.tom@kednos.com>)   Use a real dictionary!   >-----Original Message-----r; >From: Bochnik, William J [mailto:William_Bochnik@acml.com]-) >Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:58 AM- >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com( >Subject: RE: singular and plural of VAX >g > K >actually, according to disctionary.com, indexes and indices are both valid + >plurals for index, and are the same thing.s >e >t >-----Original Message-----b) >From: Tom Linden [mailto:tom@kednos.com]u  >Sent: October 10, 2002 12:41 PM. >To: Bochnik, William J; Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com( >Subject: RE: singular and plural of VAX >s >.; >indexes and indices are not the same.  Microsoft is right!  >  >>-----Original Message-----< >>From: Bochnik, William J [mailto:William_Bochnik@acml.com]* >>Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 9:09 AM >>To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com.) >>Subject: RE: singular and plural of VAXt >> >>G >>I vote "VAXEN" like the plural of box - boxen (thanks Jim Breuer) btweE >>personal peeve - rebooted a Microsh*t box today - checkdisk insists ! >>plural of index is indexes - hai >> >> >>G >>The information contained in this transmission may contain privilegedhF >>and confidential information and is intended only for the use of theF >>person(s) named above.  If you are not the intended recipient, or anB >>employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the@ >>intended recipient, any review, dissemination, distribution orF >>duplication of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you areF >>not the intended recipient, please contact the sender immediately byE >>reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. 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Please also note that tooK >satisfy regulatory requirements we review the outgoing and incoming e-maill; >correspondence of staff members serving certain functions.h >  >p >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).eA >Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 10/3/20020 >2 ---3& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).@ Version: 6.0.394 / Virus Database: 224 - Release Date: 10/3/2002   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:24:36 -0400h From: "LMcC" <sorry@nospam>tH Subject: Trying to install OVMS 7.0 on Digital Alphaserver 1000 4/266.... Message-ID: <uqbduli6jjka5@corp.supernews.com>  I ...and failing miserably.  I feel I must be doing something fundamentally-K wrong (Which shouldn't be too surprising as I never even saw a VMS or Alphah machine before yesterday.).   J I know so little about this that I'm not even sure what info you guys needK in order to help...so I'll try not to be stupid. (I'll have to try *really*c hard...)K (BTW, I've been scouring the Digital OpenVMS manuals and the Compaq/digitalSJ websites but it seems all their info is geared towards someone who has VMS0 up and running.  I can't even get _that_ far...)> I have successfully booted from the Open VMS for Alpha CD-ROM.K I think I should be doing an install for a standalone as there are no otherVK VMS machines near me (Although there is a network card in the machine and I,L do have the line plugged in and there are some other machines on the network! but it's mostly a Win2k network).eJ The install procedure dutifully asks for my license paks which I dutifullyI type in one after another after another after another (there's a BUNCH of / them things!) until I have them all registered. I Me and Alpha happily go through setting the time zone and all that stuff.6D Alpha copies files forever (10%....20%....etc...100%) until its doneI We reboot and Autogen does it's thing (I guess - it scrolls by so quicklyn? that I can't tell if it's doing its' thing correctly or not...)rC (I forget the order but I usually choose not to install any layeredt9 products - though the time I did, I got the same results) K After Autogen finishes and reboots I get the impression that I should see a , welcome to VMS banner and a username prompt.K I never get it.  The system stops at the accounting information screen with H a blinking cursor down in the lower left corner of the screen (next to a "Charged CPU Time" thing)   K Every time, no matter how I install, no matter how I boot, that's where thetL system stops.  All I can do is ctrl/P to halt the system and get back to theK >>> prompt.  I CAN, however, get a DCL prompt by booting with OPA0: settingOF and bypassing the login stuff.  I can "Set Noon" to fiddle around withK different DCL commands - however they rarely run as I usually get some kindeL of File not found error or "images must be installed" error along with a few" others that I can't even remember.  H I did make sure my PALcode was above the required minimum but other than that, I have been stumpified.t   Any help for a clueless newbie?-   TIA, :o)e Lee    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 13:52:41 -0400s- From: "Peter Weaver" <peter.weaver@stelco.ca> L Subject: Re: Trying to install OVMS 7.0 on Digital Alphaserver 1000 4/266...5 Message-ID: <ao4epc$je1kb$1@ID-141708.news.dfncis.de>    LMcC wrote:  >...A > I never get it.  The system stops at the accounting informationaD > screen with a blinking cursor down in the lower left corner of the- > screen (next to a "Charged CPU Time" thing)e >...  L Press <ENTER> at this point. If that does nothing then try <CTRL>-C, if thatF does nothing then try <CTRL>-Y, if that does nothing then let us know.   -- Peter WeaverD Opinions are my own, and do not reflect the opinions of my employer,A nor the company that it sub-contracts to, nor the company that its sub-contracts to.    ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:57:43 -0400aA From: Richard Hammersley <richard.hammersley%spam%@dartmouth.edu>0/ Subject: version 6.2, 7.1 & 7.3-1 compatabilityE, Message-ID: <3DA58757.6040100@dartmouth.edu>  J Has anyone tried running VAX 6.2, Alpha 7.1 and Alpha 7.3-1 in a cluster ?  . If so, what sort of experiences did you have ?   Thanks.R   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 11:20:21 -0400 5 From: David Beatty <David.Beatty@qwertysasasdfgh.com>t3 Subject: Re: version 6.2, 7.1 & 7.3-1 compatability 2 Message-ID: <FpqlPdaYWjEG4H+hVuxyY3tdpxbO@4ax.com>  > We have a development cluster with the following architectures
 and versions:t       VAX V6.2$     Alpha V6.2, V7.1, V7.2-2, V7.3-1  1 We've also had VAX V7.1, V7.2 and V7.3 as well aso: Alpha V7.2-1H1 and V7.3 at one time or another without any; apparent issues.  Mind you, this is not a high availability_: production environment, but it seems to work fine for R&D.   David R. Beattyr  6 On Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:57:43 -0400, Richard Hammersley/ <richard.hammersley%spam%@dartmouth.edu> wrote:2  K >Has anyone tried running VAX 6.2, Alpha 7.1 and Alpha 7.3-1 in a cluster ?l >c/ >If so, what sort of experiences did you have ?  >9 >Thanks.   ------------------------------    Date: 10 Oct 2002 08:11:59 -0700( From: robert_kersey@bat.com (Rob Kersey), Subject: VMS Date Format Manipulation with C= Message-ID: <f936a854.0210100711.33198191@posting.google.com>'  E Does anybody have a VMS C routines for excepting an ASCII Date string!# in either of the following formats;g     	DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM:SS.CC   	ori   	YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS.CCs    B And converting it to the time_t structure type format so it can be used by C RTL functions ??  F ( Need to extract dates from an Oracle Rdb database in either DATE VMS. or DATE ANSI, and be able to manipulate them.)   Any help greatly appreciated.s   ------------------------------  % Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 17:42:24 +0200s6 From: Arne =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>0 Subject: Re: VMS Date Format Manipulation with C) Message-ID: <3DA59FE0.5030601@vajhoej.dk>o   Rob Kersey wrote:   G > Does anybody have a VMS C routines for excepting an ASCII Date stringn% > in either of the following formats;! >  >  > 	DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM:SS.CC >  > 	orI >  > 	YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS.CC  >  > D > And converting it to the time_t structure type format so it can be > used by C RTL functions ??   Do it two-step:u   1)  text -> VMS binary time:) 2)  VMS binary time -> Unix/C binary timei  < For #1 I think you need to look for LIB$CONVERT_DATE_STRING, SYS$BINTIM etc..   For #2 look for decc$fix_time.   Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 10 Oct 02 13:05:56 EDT From: grant@rigel.cc.wmich.edu0 Subject: Re: VMS Date Format Manipulation with C/ Message-ID: <A2anI0OHKiUO@mcduck.acs.wmich.edu>,  h In article <f936a854.0210100711.33198191@posting.google.com>, robert_kersey@bat.com (Rob Kersey) writes:G > Does anybody have a VMS C routines for excepting an ASCII Date string-% > in either of the following formats;: >  >  > 	DD-MMM-YYYY HH:MM:SS.CC >  > 	oru >  > 	YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS.CCe >  > D > And converting it to the time_t structure type format so it can be > used by C RTL functions ?? > H > ( Need to extract dates from an Oracle Rdb database in either DATE VMS0 > or DATE ANSI, and be able to manipulate them.) >  > Any help greatly appreciated.a   Have you tried strptime?   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.560 ************************