1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 09 Sep 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 497       Contents: Re: Backup record layout Re: Backup record layout% Re: Copy of OpenVMS hobbyist CD in UK 3 Re: Details: HP Enterprise Technical Symposium 2002 / Details: HP Enterprise Technical Symposium 2002 * Hobbyist vs Startup Business and Licensing Re: ImageMagick freeware= Re: Micro$oft exec says all os's stink ... forgets about VMS! 8 Re: Microsoft reeling from hack attacks, VMS just yawns!8 RE: Microsoft reeling from hack attacks, VMS just yawns!8 Re: Microsoft reeling from hack attacks, VMS just yawns!" Re: Pine. Problem with INBOX + pop& Re: Reading VAX VMS backup tapes on PC" Re: silliest thing heard this week# the sky is falling says Nominum Inc ' Re: the sky is falling says Nominum Inc A Re: Who are the largest VMS customers. Top ten? (Was: VMS and HP) A RE: Who are the largest VMS customers. Top ten? (Was: VMS and HP)   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:23:39 +0200 @ From: Arne =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Vajh=F8j?= <arne.vajhoej@mail.tele.dk>! Subject: Re: Backup record layout + Message-ID: <3D7BB1CB.5020405@mail.tele.dk>    Hans Vlems wrote:   D > Has the record layout of a VMS backup saveset ever been published?    < Rumours say that it was in the doc set for some of the first VMS version. Before my time.   A couple of suggestions:  4 1)  Try and find a copy of the vmsbackup program for      Unix and study that.   ' 2)  BACK/ANALYZE reveals a lot of info.    Arne   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 02 06:07:18 +0200 ) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) ! Subject: Re: Backup record layout ) Message-ID: <CHzCYlbxh+3O@elias.decus.ch>   c In article <ldcRk$X68h9M@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: ] > In article <alfe95$1p60po$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>, "Hans Vlems" <hvlems@iae.nl> writes: E >> Has the record layout of a VMS backup saveset ever been published?  > / > I thought it was in the VMS V3 documentation.   F That is my recollection also. Unfortunately I don't have it any more.  __
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 02 06:23:28 +0200 ) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) . Subject: Re: Copy of OpenVMS hobbyist CD in UK) Message-ID: <$Hv26XZS0Vmk@elias.decus.ch>   ? In article <Xns9282CCF6D3727acsfcgnetworksnet@216.166.71.232>,  # Andy <acs@fcgnet.works.net> writes:    Just in case you don't know...  ( <a load of stuff about Mac OS X snipped>  A Having taken the time to compose a considered reply to your email B address (off topic, so I went the private route), I received this:     --Failed delivery to:    Address: acs@fcgnet.works.net    Status:  no such host      __
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 23:30:29 -0400K From: "Encompass - HP Enterprise Technology Symposium" <KilleenJ@toast.net> < Subject: Re: Details: HP Enterprise Technical Symposium 2002/ Message-ID: <uno5f9e308m45f@corp.supernews.com>   I FWIW I would strongly recommend considering attending all 4 of the Senior  Technologist sessions...     --   Jeff Killeen   All Info: http://www.Killeen.cc   ? ---------------------------------------------------------------   K "Encompass - HP Enterprise Technology Symposium" <KilleenJ@toast.net> wrote 4 in message news:uno2a65kh4lm8c@corp.supernews.com... > Symposium Overview...  > 9 > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002Overview.pdf  >  > Program details... >  > Session and SAAG Schedules...  > > > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/MainSessions2002-09-07.pdf > A > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HandsOnSessions2002-09-07.pdf  > 0 > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/MainSAAG.pdf > 3 > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HandsOnSAAG.pdf  > . > Mini-Program Guides by technologist focus... > 6 > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002Tru64.pdf > 8 > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002OpenVMS.pdf > 6 > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002Linux.pdf > 6 > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002HP-UX.pdf > 9 > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002ProLiant.pdf  > 1 > Storage, Oracle, OpenView, and Novell topics...  > 8 > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002Storage.pdf > 7 > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002Oracle.pdf  > 9 > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002OpenView.pdf  > 7 > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002Novell.pdf  > I > Seminar Guide, Senior Technologists Sessions, Expert Sessions, and Case  > Studies sessions...  > 9 > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002Seminars.pdf  > C > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002SeniorTechnologist.pdf  > B > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002ExpertDiscussions.pdf > : > http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002CaseStudy.pdf >  >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 22:36:35 -0400K From: "Encompass - HP Enterprise Technology Symposium" <KilleenJ@toast.net> 8 Subject: Details: HP Enterprise Technical Symposium 2002/ Message-ID: <uno2a65kh4lm8c@corp.supernews.com>    Symposium Overview...   7 http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002Overview.pdf    Program details...   Session and SAAG Schedules...   < http://members.toast.net/killeenj/MainSessions2002-09-07.pdf  ? http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HandsOnSessions2002-09-07.pdf   . http://members.toast.net/killeenj/MainSAAG.pdf  1 http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HandsOnSAAG.pdf   , Mini-Program Guides by technologist focus...  4 http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002Tru64.pdf  6 http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002OpenVMS.pdf  4 http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002Linux.pdf  4 http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002HP-UX.pdf  7 http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002ProLiant.pdf   / Storage, Oracle, OpenView, and Novell topics...   6 http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002Storage.pdf  5 http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002Oracle.pdf   7 http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002OpenView.pdf   5 http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002Novell.pdf   G Seminar Guide, Senior Technologists Sessions, Expert Sessions, and Case  Studies sessions...   7 http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002Seminars.pdf   A http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002SeniorTechnologist.pdf   @ http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002ExpertDiscussions.pdf  8 http://members.toast.net/killeenj/HPETS2002CaseStudy.pdf   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 02 07:38:29 +0200 ) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 3 Subject: Hobbyist vs Startup Business and Licensing ) Message-ID: <9AXI4E3g8xvh@elias.decus.ch>   g In article <3D7B8B37.284B2A36@blueyonder.co.uk>, Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk> writes:  >  >  > "Main, Kerry" wrote: >>   >> Michael,  >>  % >> >>> When VMS is free on new PCs<<<  >>  J >> The MS OS is certainly not "free" on new PC's. You pay for the MS OS as1 >> part of the PC purchase. It is simply bundled.  >>  7 >> >>> sells with a single user license for $99/copy<<<  >>  $ >> OpenVMS Hobbyist license is free.$ >> http://www.montagar.com/hobbyist/ >>  E >> There are obviously other area's to compare, but the ones you have ( >> raised are not good ones you can use. >>   >   K > However, Kerry, one can legitimately use the MS OS for business purposes,  > but not Hobbyist VMS.   D A very valid point. It is crazy that I have an Alpha at home capableG of doing serious work (and yes, it's faster and has more memory than my G system at work), yet if I wish to write some commercial software I need  to fire up NT, Linux or Mac.  ? I see a valid case for some type of "startup" license to target @ small business users, starting with someone like me or yourself,B who would like to develop some useful software for VMS, running up@ to a small company using it for useful things like stock control and invoicing.  @ Let me put it another way. Let's leave all this image processing? and freeware stuff to the Open Source folks. Instead let us get @ on with true business applications, but at a price we can afford as startup types.   C An example. I would be quite happy to pay <put what you can afford> = into the VMS maintenance pot in return for the ability to use D my system commercially. No big bucks for the moment, but potentiallyA a lot more. If it doesn't turn into big money, at least I had the ? chance to give it a go, and meanwhile Compaq/HP have made a bit 6 of money I would likely not spend with them otherwise.  . This is, after all, what M$ allows one to do.   C Yes, I know I should consider the CSA thingy, but from memory, that B still does not allow me to run applications on a commercial basis. __
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 02 05:25:41 +0200 ) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) ! Subject: Re: ImageMagick freeware ) Message-ID: <sK7mfTO4VsZa@elias.decus.ch>   q In article <4b254661.0209080437.2ce50b2e@posting.google.com>, randeg@alum.rpi.edu (Glenn Randers-Pehrson) writes:  >  >>b) "sufficient permissions"  > K > I meant the ability to test the make.com in its pristine condition, which F > means having permission to write in whatever directories the defaultI > configuration wants to write in.  I realize make.com can be modified to O > write in a user directory but the test is more satisfactory without modifying  > it.  >   G In that case, I strongly suspect that the "pristine condition" has some D false assumptions about VMS. Please post a copy of make.com, so that we can offer suggestions.    __
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 03:16:58 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> F Subject: Re: Micro$oft exec says all os's stink ... forgets about VMS!K Message-ID: <KoUe9.199954$8aG1.150586@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>   ( "Everhart" <ge@gce.com> wrote in message% news:alefjn$rci$1@bob.news.rcn.net... D > I believe that Microsoft is trying hard to spin its own insecurityA > as a generic problem and would do so whether it knows about VMS F > and OS/400 or not. These statements are not innocent uninformedness;K > they are deception and attempts to conceal the existence of alternatives. C > Neither are they mentioning the next two runner-up candidates for L > half decent security, NSA enhanced Linux (which they have been trying hard0 > to make go away) and PitBull enhanced Solaris. > J > It is pretty clear that the whole direction of making everything able toI > call everything else transparently has been a security disaster, and it G > has been built tightly into Microsoft's whole software system so that G > reworking it would in effect mean Microsoft could now start trying to L > engineer a system that works like some of the secure ones from scratch, ifI > it truly wanted to attain secure operation, rather than convince people H > that a few more kludge patches is the best that can be had. After all,K > they convinced many that power cycling boxes multiple times a day was the K > best an OS vendor could do. If they succeed they can continue business as H > usual, with a few new wrinkles, or possibly they will be able to get aI > non-consumer-controllable appliance (Palladium) that might just be able H > to block some attacks, at the cost of also blocking customer choice of whatJ > the platform runs. (Darn if I will pay for a box that wants to be locked against H > me. When I pay for a box I pay for the right to do with it as I like.) > F > Obviously anywhere we can point out that there exist several already secureD > OS choices, of which VMS is arguably the best, it will dispel this misinformation.     L All Microsoft has to do is cut a deal to buy VMS from HP. Then they'll stick: the Windows api on top of it and call it Secure WindowsVMS   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 19:52:58 +0200 2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender)A Subject: Re: Microsoft reeling from hack attacks, VMS just yawns! ; Message-ID: <3d7b8e7a.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>   . JF Mezei (jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca) wrote:G > On the other hand, owners of VMS system may not have to spend so much F > time fighting viruses, but they have to spend time seeking software,F > compiling them on their own system and fully testing because it came > from the net.  > G > One example is WHOIS , which doesn't come with TCPIP. One must find a H > copy on the net, compile, test and verify it doesn't do anything nastyG > before allowing its use on the comemrcial system. On other platforms, 8 > this utility comes "trusted" as part of the tcp stack.  F While I agree in principle (and enjoy porting apps to VMS), WHOIS is aH bad example, as TCPware as well as MultiNet do come with a WHOIS client.   cu,    Martin --  G                            | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer 4  UNIX is user friendly.    | work: mv@pdv-systeme.deG  It's just selective about |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/ ;  who its friends are.      | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de    ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 02 06:04:04 +0200 ) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) A Subject: RE: Microsoft reeling from hack attacks, VMS just yawns! ) Message-ID: <K28tXTatTD$Q@elias.decus.ch>   c In article <s+Rk$tHe3ij8@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes: W > In article <QWc8XqQDAEk8@elias.decus.ch>, p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) writes:  >> In article <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4026609CD@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>, "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com> writes:  >>> G >>>>>> If DEC/Compaq/HP got $200 per copy, they'd be over their head in  >>> black ink supporting it.<<<  >>> K >>> With respect to "commercial use" - it depends if you factor in security K >>> patching and the time administrators spend keeping up. Once these costs 3 >>> are factored in then it's a different story.=20  >>> E >>> OpenVMS hobbyist (free license) time spent worrying about Virus's  >>  M >> Wanna see some web logs? Sorry, but my VMS system doesn't have a directory M >> winnt on a disk called c: (neither does my NT system for that matter :-) )  > ? > You could program your VMS system to respond to such requests > > v e r y   s l o w l y, sort of like keeping the kidnapper onA > the phone long enough to trace the call.  Likely the attacker's 4 > software is not programmed to handle such tactics.  E It is quite likely that such software makes far too many assumptions.   + Do I suddenly see a use for Javascript? :-)   B Coincidentally, yesterday I asked Alan Winston when his book aboutB web servers on VMS comes out. His answer was that he been informed* it is available from the end of September.  & ISBN: 1555582648 for those interested. __
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 09 Sep 2002 03:23:00 -0000 / From: Michael Zarlenga <zarlenga@conan.ids.net> A Subject: Re: Microsoft reeling from hack attacks, VMS just yawns! / Message-ID: <uno50k9sunkvbb@corp.supernews.com>   & Main, Kerry <Kerry.Main@hp.com> wrote: : Mike -  F :>>> And if you check Gateway or Dell, you'll see that you can upgrade0 : from XP Home to XP Pro for less than $100. <<<  E : Ok, I did. Check this out from Dell: (I am assuming Gateway will be 
 : similar)  @ Ok, so prices went up.  When I was looking last was about 9 mos.+ ago so maybe they were introductory prices.    Ok, so XP pro is about $300.  ( How much is VMS with a license?  $5,000?   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 18:11:48 -0400, From: "Francisco Ortega" <fortega@iblues.cc>+ Subject: Re: Pine. Problem with INBOX + pop B Message-ID: <4QPe9.49444$%P6.16144337@e3500-atl1.usenetserver.com>  L I did that but still does not work. It can't open the inbox. I also want theD email address to be different than the default. and to receive email* different from the default email address .   Thanks    F "Mark(un-MASK)Forsyth" <forMsytAhm@optusShom.com.aKu> wrote in message1 news:slrnanj2c3.6l.forMsytAhm@plague.bogus.com... I > On Fri, 6 Sep 2002 23:05:36 -0400, Francisco Ortega <fortega@iblues.cc> 
 gushed forth:  > > Hi, J > >      I was finally able after long tries and help from you guys, PINE. The H > >error that I'm getting now is that the inbox location does not exist, wheretF > >I had try to put dka0:[data.francisco.inbox] and also sys$login andC > >sys$login:  . It does open the MAIL Folder (normal mail folder).mD > >Also, how do I set up the pop account/password, the email address > >u	 > >thanksa >L >n" > To get it going from scratch....C > Start pine and go to "SETUP" in the main menu (ignore any errors)s > Enter "C" (config)K > Move the cursor to "personal-name" and enter "a" (add) and enter whatevera you need to.= > Add appropriate values for "user-domain" and "smtp-server".bK > Ignore the "[could not create 'mail'] error messages you'll see along thei way. >t$ > The test setup I did looks like :- > . > --------------------------------------------% > personal-name          = G. ForsythT+ > user-domain            = optushome.com.aua( > smtp-server            = 192.168.1.254) > nntp-server            = <No Value Set>-8 > inbox-path             = <No Value Set: using "inbox">3 > folder-collections     = <No Value Set: using []>F) > news-collections       = <No Value Set>R9 > default-fcc            = <No Value Set: using "mymail">lA > postponed-folder       = <No Value Set: using "POSTPONED-MSGS">S) > read-message-folder    = <No Value Set>u6 > signature-file         = <No Value Set: using "SYS">) > global-address-book    = <No Value Set>e= > address-book           = <No Value Set: using .addressbook>o > feature-list           =. > -------------------------------------------- > . > Exit the configuration screen and exit pine.H > From another username on the same system send mail to the username you just set pine up for.oG > Crank pine up again and go to "FOLDER LIST" then to "INBOX" and thereR should be the message you justH > sent to the username. I'm assuming that the "$ mail" command works OK. >6I > When you send a message from this setup there'll be some stuff created.H& (Address book and so on.) Just say "y" > when it asks.b >h > I > All of the above assumes that your e-mail is already being delivered toe# your OpenVMS system. If I've missedeJ > the fact that isn't and you need to have pine get the mail from a remote) pop server then I don't think you can get J > this version (3.91-2) of pine to do that and you may need to investigate& the possibilities of IMAP. Perhaps youJ > could also investigate the possibilites of using Netscape as your e-mail and news client. >t >r > -- >r >s > Ooroot > Mark F...d >t& > Another Optus Cable Traffic Monitor.5 > http://www.members.optushome.com.au/forsythm/traff/i >e >e >  > -- >m >  > Ooroo  > Mark F...o >w& > Another Optus Cable Traffic Monitor.5 > http://www.members.optushome.com.au/forsythm/traff/k >e   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 15:51:32 -0400+ From: "David Pikcilingis" <dcpik@bosbc.com>0/ Subject: Re: Reading VAX VMS backup tapes on PCe/ Message-ID: <unnaik6g5lav7a@corp.supernews.com>j  J Boston Business Computing produces and sells Vbackup for UNIX.  We are notH aware of a program that will read OpenVMS BACKUP save sets on Windows orI DOS.  We do offer a Linux version that will operate on a very inexpensiveKJ system.  The Vbackup information is located at www.bosbc.com/vbackup.html.@ There is a PDF version of the manual at www.bosbc.com/documents.   David Pikcilingis< Boston Business Computing 
 www.bosbc.com:  : "Didier Morandi" <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> wrote in message  news:3D6533DC.E14B0D1@Free.fr...0 > http://www.softresint.com/charon-vax/index.htm >. > dutchman2000 wrote:A > >hJ > > Can anyone tell me how to read VAX VMS backup tapes using a PC running DOS G > > or Windows?  I have an M4 9914 tape drive connected to a SCSI card.    ------------------------------    Date: 09 Sep 2002 04:27:57 +0800, From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>+ Subject: Re: silliest thing heard this week - Message-ID: <87n0qsp6pe.fsf@prep.synonet.com>T  0 spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) writes:  C > This goes all the way back. Directory files have always had to ben> > version 1 to be recognized. I just verified this in the V1.0 > listings.p  @ This was in the original ODS-2 specs that I have on an 8" floppy? somewhere. But along the way, the wheels seem to have fallen a a2 little skewif :( Non ;1 directories now work fine.   -- t< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.m@                                              West Australia 6076. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------   Date: 8 Sep 2002 12:51:03 -0700P2 From: radio_four_listener@yahoo.co.uk (reg-reader), Subject: the sky is falling says Nominum Inc= Message-ID: <b2cff4d3.0209081151.5d443928@posting.google.com>y  2 From: radio_four_listener@yahoo.co.uk (reg-reader)" Newsgroups: comp.os.linux.advocacy+ Subject: the sky is faling says Nominum Incc! NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.114.111.34n= Message-ID: <b2cff4d3.0209081135.2aa65733@posting.google.com>   F   ...  One day Chicken Little was walking in the woods when --              ...F   ...  KERPLUNK -- an acorn fell on her head                                ...  C   ... "Oh my goodness!" said Chicken Little. "The sky is falling! Io must go ...pF   ...  and tell the king."                                                  ...  6 Shame on you Register for printing such a scare story.D Don't you recognise such a self serving puff peace when you see one.9 Me thinks Nominum are just trying to flog some "product".T   DNS vulnerability 'critical' By ComputerWireT Posted: 05/09/2002 at 07:30 GMTs  7 from http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/26967.htmla  B Nominum Inc says a recently discovered flaw in the dominant domain4 name server on the internet is far more serious thanB originally thought, and could allow crackers to crash or even takeD control of any internet-connected application running on Unix, Kevin Murphy writes.  @ "We know for sure we can use this bug to crash any application,"? said Richard Probst, VP of product management at Nominum, whicho? has released a product that fixes the problem. "And we think we D know how to use it to hijack any application, but we haven't seen an
 exploit yet."n  C The CERT Coordination Center, which tracks internet vulnerabilitiestA for the US government, warned June 28 that a flaw in DNS resolvertC libraries (the code that handles the transformation of domain names D into IP addresses) in multiple Unix applications were susceptible to a buffer overflow attack.S  ; To exploit the attack, a cracker has to be in control of an.
 authoritativen? name server for a domain (example.com). The server is set up to.= send a malformed response to DNS lookups. When an applicationrD running on Unix looks up a bad address in the cracker's domain, that* application either crashes or is hijacked.  > Because the malformed DNS responses actually look like healthy> messages, they will also be stored on DNS caches, allowing theF cracker to crash more applications even if the authoritative server is turned off.o  = CERT initially said companies that upgraded their DNS cachingoB server to BIND 9, the latest version of the Berkeley Internet Name; Domain name server, would be protected. However, it emergedeC August 27 that the only foolproof way to stop attacks is to upgradeyD your DNS resolver libraries, a fix Probst describes as "like a mini- Y2k response".  > CERT said in its advisory: "The only complete solution to this@ problem is to upgrade to a corrected version of the DNS resolverE libraries... Note that DNS resolver libraries can be used by multiple ? applications on most systems. It may be necessary to upgrade ori; apply multiple patches and then recompile statically linkedt applications."  A The bug in question dates back to the 1980s, according to Probst,nC and still remains in most flavors of Unix, though Windows and Linuxi> are unaffected. Products from IBM, Hewlett-Packard Co, Caldera@ International Inc (now SCO Group Inc), Network Appliance Inc and; Nortel Networks Ltd are among those that use the vulnerablel: libraries. Most vendors have issued bulletins and patches.  A Nominum says all the patching and recompiling makes securing yourmC systems a logistical nightmare. One of its larger and more paranoidf@ customers, which it would not name, demanded Nominum build a fixA "as quickly as possible", and the company yesterday released intouC beta its first-ever commercial product, the DNS Response Validator.M  ; DRV, a 1U appliance sits beside the DNS cache, inspects DNShD messages for signs that they carry the malicious attack. If they do, it9 logs and blocks them. Probst said the device can create a-A "measurable but not problematic" performance issue (not enough to  cause a bottleneck).  < The product is available to beta customers now, for $30,000.: Recognizing that some companies may just want a short-termD solution while they patch and recompile their affected applications,< Nominum said the DRV can also be leased for $1,500 a month.     ComputerWire   ------------------------------   Date: 9 Sep 02 07:47:45 +0200a) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture)o0 Subject: Re: the sky is falling says Nominum Inc) Message-ID: <Xtahja5d18w0@elias.decus.ch>   r In article <b2cff4d3.0209081151.5d443928@posting.google.com>, radio_four_listener@yahoo.co.uk (reg-reader) writes:4 > From: radio_four_listener@yahoo.co.uk (reg-reader)   <snip>   > 8 > Shame on you Register for printing such a scare story.F > Don't you recognise such a self serving puff peace when you see one.; > Me thinks Nominum are just trying to flog some "product".  >   F LOL! A self proclaimed  Radio 4 listener who can't tell the difference between "peace" and "piece".  B (For non-UK folks, Radio 4 is the intellectual channel. Well, usedC to be before they started dumbing it down. Frank Muir too highbrow?. Gimme a break) __
 Paul Sture Switzerlandi   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 08 Sep 2002 18:30:58 -0400d2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)J Subject: Re: Who are the largest VMS customers. Top ten? (Was: VMS and HP)K Message-ID: <rdeininger-0809021830580001@1cust106.tnt2.nashua.nh.da.uu.net>n  5 In article <3D7A323B.586BCAA1@videotron.ca>, JF Mezeic% <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> wrote:    >"Dr. Dweeb" wrote:aM >> The fact that the Deutsche Boerse, The Australian Stock Exchange, New YorktN >> Mutual Exchange. IMEX etc. etc. etc all run on OpenVMS did not seem to help+ >> the visibility of VMS during the merger.i > M >Here is a sensitive question: do they RUN on VMS or just have VMS onsite foro >certain functions ?  ! Dunno for sure about the above.  i  J International Securities Exchange runs the various trading applications on VMS.       http://www.iseoptions.com/1   http://www.iseoptions.com/about/technology.htmla8   http://www.iseoptions.com/about/technology_compaq.html  D "ISE's trading software (developed by OM) operates on HP OpenVMS(tm)I AlphaServer(tm) systems. HP is the second largest computer company in theuD world and a Fortune Global 100 company. HP continues to dominate theA exchange market with over 90% market share worldwide. The OpenVMSmG operating system, OpenVMS Clusters and Alpha architecture of HP providebD configuration flexibility, technologies proven in many internationalG markets, and unparalleled growth capacity to handle the high volumes ofbH quotes associated with options trading. Further, this trading system has' multiple redundancies and hot backups."l   ------------------------------  $ Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2002 19:33:20 -0400' From: "Main, Kerry" <Kerry.Main@hp.com>iJ Subject: RE: Who are the largest VMS customers. Top ten? (Was: VMS and HP)T Message-ID: <BE56C50EA024184DAF48F0B9A47F5CF4026609D1@kaoexc01.americas.cpqcorp.net>   JF -  E <<< Here is a sensitive question: do they RUN on VMS or just have VMSt! onsite for certain functions ?>>>o   They run on OpenVMS.=20s  @ In addition to Roberts pointer, some additional public pointers:  = http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/brochures/Bank-Austria/ E "In the financial markets, it's not enough to get your work done. You C need systems that react as quickly as your traders make decisions -,7 which is why we run OpenVMS on AlphaServer GS systems."b  4 http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/brochures/asx/H "The integrity of a stock exchange is tied totally to the reliability of% its systems. OpenVMS has provided the G foundation for the reliability and high availability of our systems forh the last 14 years."s  < http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/brochures/commerzbank/C "Because Commerzbank relies on OpenVMS wide-area clustering, volumemE shadowing and AlphaServer GS160 systems from HP, the bank was able to B function on September 11 because its critical banking applicationsG continued to run at the primary site and were available from the bank's.
 remote site."s  E http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/brochures/swiss-stock-exchange/iB ""Part of our strategy, and our success as well, is to rely on theA OpenVMS operating system - which I still consider one of the besta systems in the world."  4 http://www.openvms.compaq.com/openvms/brochures/ise/H "OpenVMS is a proven product that's been battle tested out in the field.? That's why I was extremely confident in building the technologyy$ architecture of the ISE on OpenVMS."   And so on ..   :-)c   Regards@  
 Kerry Main Senior Consultants Hewlett-Packard Canada! Consulting & Integration Services@ Voice: 613-592-4660c Fax   : 613-591-4477 Email: Kerry.Main@hp.com     -----Original Message-----7 From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca]=20  Sent: September 7, 2002 1:07 PM  To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComeF Subject: Re: Who are the largest VMS customers. Top ten? (Was: VMS and HP)      "Dr. Dweeb" wrote:J > The fact that the Deutsche Boerse, The Australian Stock Exchange, New=20H > York Mutual Exchange. IMEX etc. etc. etc all run on OpenVMS did not=207 > seem to help the visibility of VMS during the merger.   H Here is a sensitive question: do they RUN on VMS or just have VMS onsite for certain functions ?t  B I think you would find that in many instances, VMS may be used for' applications that have zero visibility.s  G In the case of Tandem, it really does run the nasdaq. It is the primarycD system with smaller things attached to it. Those smaller things haveD zero visibility. (exception made for NASDAQ web server which runs onH Microsoft, quite a risk for an enterprise that is supposed to be seriousE - I recently sent a nasty email to their web feedback telling them torC get their windows weenies to learn html and force themto pass theiraD front page through the html validator at www.w3.org before making it public.a   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.497 ************************0 -0000 / From: Michael Zarlenga <zarlenga@conan.ids.net> A Subject: Re: Microsoft reeling from hack attacks, VMS just yawns! / Message-ID: <uno50k9sunkvbb@corp.supernews.com>   & Main, Kerry <Kerry.Main@hp.com> wrote: : Mike -  F :>>> And if you check Gateway or Dell, you'll see that you can upgrade0 : from XP Home to XP Pro for less than $100. <<<  E : Ok, I did. Cլ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    լ    