1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 16 Sep 2002	Volume 2002 : Issue 512       Contents:1 Re: Announcing the first annual OpenVMS Symposium 1 Re: Announcing the first annual OpenVMS Symposium $ F$File_Attributes (was Re: lexicals)2 Re: first annual OpenVMS Symposium: Special Guest? Re: FMS on Alpha6 RE: re:hoew to address dqa0:(ide-cdrom) under cdrecord6 RE: re:hoew to address dqa0:(ide-cdrom) under cdrecord! Re: How to debug PRODUCT INSTAL ? # How to reach montagar.com by e-mail : HTML to browse the Freeware CDs - grab a copy if you wish. Re: IMAP performance! Re: License issue with cluster... 8 Re: Microsoft reeling from hack attacks, VMS just yawns! MKISOFS ans VMS 7.3 " Mozilla Referer Privacy Leak found  Non-standard installation of VMS. Re: Opcom when SYSGEN modifies the params file. Re: Opcom when SYSGEN modifies the params file Re: Oracle Problem Re: Oracle Problem< RE: Preinstalled hobby VMS distribution on resold hardware q4 Re: Seeking Senior VMS System Administrator Position snmp, Re: TCPIP installation/management suggestion warning in  compilation... Re: warning in  compilation...A Re: What features/capabilities would you like to see available on J Re: What features/capabilities would you like to see available on OpenVMS?
 Re: WTC cruft   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:32:38 GMT F From: lederman@star.enet.dec.DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL.com (Bart Z. Lederman): Subject: Re: Announcing the first annual OpenVMS Symposium1 Message-ID: <qjjh9.5$f13.327819@news.cpqcorp.net>   H >> And we won't even go into holding it in the middle of the week in theG >> middle of a semester.  Just another example of not placing any value C >> whatsoever on getting VMS back into educational visibility.  :-(  > G >I think they laid it out pretty clearly that the design principle here E >is to give priority to content by ensuring the maximum number of VMS H >developers are able to participate.  That means not doing it when their+ >kids are liable to be on school vacation !   - There are a couple of ways to interpret this.   > Back when I was more involved with user society meetings, most? people wanted the meeting to be held on a week day: they wanted @ the weekend free to be with their families.  Larry's point aboutB wanting to schedule the event when the engineers will be available is also relevant.   > The first complaint might also be taken to mean that if it had? been scheduled for a different time one might get more teachers @ or students to attend.  It's a nice idea, but I don't think it's= too realistic within this timeframe or educational reference. = This event is primarily aimed at people who already know what : OpenVMS is.  I think it would be difficult to market it to: college students.  Some other type of event or educational9 experience is going to be needed to get OpenVMS back into ' the college and university environment.   ? Also this is the first time we're doing this.  You have to make ? your best estimate of what will work, try it out, and then make 1 adjustments based on what you learn at the event.    --  (  B. Z. Lederman   Personal Opinions Only  8  Posting to a News group does NOT give anyone permission8  to send me advertising by E-mail or put me on a mailing  list of any kind.  5  Please remove the "DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL" if you have a 5  legitimate reason to E-mail a response to this post.    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:47:23 GMT F From: lederman@star.enet.dec.DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL.com (Bart Z. Lederman): Subject: Re: Announcing the first annual OpenVMS Symposium1 Message-ID: <fxjh9.8$f13.327819@news.cpqcorp.net>   X In article <3D8275DF.179DCD21@NelsonUSA.com>, Alan Frisbie <Abuse@NelsonUSA.com> writes: > B >For those of us who are not in the habit of travelling to Nashua,= >what makes the most sense (when coming from the west coast):  >  >1. Fly to Logan% >   A. Rent a car and drive to Nashua 6 >   B. Take bus/van/(other ground transport) to Nashua
 >   C. ???  < I suspect that there are more flights from the west coast toA Logan than to Manchester.  If so, or if there is a big difference ? in cost and you don't mind the possibility of a slight delay in @ traffic: fly to Logan, and take the Van service from the airport> to the hotel.  Let someone else drive.  They normally take you= directly to the hotel.  I wouldn't rent a car unless there is * somewhere else you want to go in the area.  > There is also a regular bus service between Boston and Nashua,< leaving from the bus terminal above South Station.  (Vermont< Transit, associated with Greyhound I believe: big inter-city> busses with luggage storage.) You could then take a local taxi< to the hotel.  There is also a local city bus that goes from: the bus terminal to the hotel, but that will be slower and= more difficult with luggage.  When I have to travel I used to < drive to Boston; but for the last few years I've used a taxi; to the Nashua Bus depot and the bus to Boston.  Let someone @ else do the driving.  But the van service is also a good option.  : >2. Fly to Manchester (do those flights go through Logan?)% >   A. Rent a car and drive to Nashua 6 >   B. Take bus/van/(other ground transport) to Nashua
 >   C. ???  > Others can speak more to this, but as I understand it, getting@ to and from Manchester is a lot easier that Logan.  It's closer,> and there is less traffic.  The drawback is fewer flights.  If> it fits your schedule and there isn't a huge difference in theB cost of the flight, Manchester will probably be easier.  I believe the van services go there.   >3. ???   < There are some flights to Portsmouth, but getting from there< to Nashua is probably a lot more difficult than from Boston.% Driving is probably your only option.   2 Personally, I don't fly anymore, I take the train.   --  (  B. Z. Lederman   Personal Opinions Only  8  Posting to a News group does NOT give anyone permission8  to send me advertising by E-mail or put me on a mailing  list of any kind.  5  Please remove the "DISABLE-JUNK-EMAIL" if you have a 5  legitimate reason to E-mail a response to this post.    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:52:10 GMT 3 From: "Tom Wade" <t.wade@vms.eurokom.ie.removespam> - Subject: F$File_Attributes (was Re: lexicals) . Message-ID: <_tkh9.4268$cP3.10346@news.iol.ie>  : "Arne Vajhj" <arne.vajhoej@mail.tele.dk> wrote in message% news:3D84B0FD.6090603@mail.tele.dk...   L While on the subject of lexicals, I would like the F$File_Attributes lexicalD be able to return information about files that are open, rather thanF returning a "File locked" error (it's not as if it is trying to change8 anything, and if DIRECTORY can do it, so should F$FILE).   Tom Wade   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Sep 2002 09:37:22 -0600- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) ; Subject: Re: first annual OpenVMS Symposium: Special Guest? 3 Message-ID: <CqjrFPCH6tc0@eisner.encompasserve.org>   c In article <3D85DF92.86E53F6F@mindspring.com>, Atlant Schmidt <atlantnospam@mindspring.com> writes:  > Larry Kilgallen wrote: > Z >> In article <3D823502.A9B0F48A@Free.fr>, Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> writes: >>> >> > Maybe HPlovesVMS could invite Ken Olsen to the Symposium? >>J >> Or maybe they could stick to their promise and restrict it to technical >> sessions. > 0 > Gee, Larry, don't you have *ANY* fun any more?    What do you mean by "any more" ?  - Are you accusing me of past frivolity ?   :-)    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:22:16 GMT # From: "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com>  Subject: Re: FMS on Alpha > Message-ID: <cWkh9.273030$Rx4.3330056@twister.tampabay.rr.com>  K Thanks to the efforts of several people on this news-group, I have received 8 confirmation that FMS is indeed qualified for VMS 7.3-1.   Thank you all.
    John Nixon     PS,  See you in St. Louis.   . "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message5 news:Rp6g9.20108$R7.361686@twister.tampabay.rr.com... L > We are beginning to upgrade our Alpha systems from VMS 7.2-1 to VMS 7.3-1,H > but the software rollout schedule shows that FMS is a "mature" product withJ > a max OS level of 7.3.  Some products show max os as 7.3-1, so it is notF > that the list doesn't know about 7.3-1.   This will cause us quite a problem J > as we have a lot of old code based on FMS.  If we have to rewrite it, itK > will set our upgrade plans back quite a ways.  We have some very pressing ( > needs for VMS 7.3.  What do we do now? >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:36:09 +0200 C From: Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann <vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de> ? Subject: RE: re:hoew to address dqa0:(ide-cdrom) under cdrecord > Message-ID: <00A140EC.F3B9EF2A.1@CHCLU.CHEMIE.UNI-KONSTANZ.DE>   Hi,   I >As the subject says: How do I set up cdrecord to write to a ide (master)  >cd-rw from ide on DPWS500AU ?  + 1. Install the dqdriver from Freeware V5.0.   B 2. If the drive is not been recognized after a reboot, you have toC    start a command procedure, that installs and starts the dqdriver @    properly. Then, as already mentioned, you have an old chipset>    in your machine that prevents a boot from an IDE-drive. But@    if you install the driver (a command-procedure comes with the:    drdriver-source) the CD/DVD works without any problems.   eberhard   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 06:30:58 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> ? Subject: RE: re:hoew to address dqa0:(ide-cdrom) under cdrecord 9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJICENJFLAA.tom@kednos.com>   > Speaking of which, I assume a SONT R/RW drive (model CRX185E1) will work?  Anybody know?    >-----Original Message-----  >From: Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann- >[mailto:vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de] * >Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 12:36 AM >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com@ >Subject: RE: re:hoew to address dqa0:(ide-cdrom) under cdrecord >  >  >Hi, > J >>As the subject says: How do I set up cdrecord to write to a ide (master) >>cd-rw from ide on DPWS500AU ?  > , >1. Install the dqdriver from Freeware V5.0. > C >2. If the drive is not been recognized after a reboot, you have to D >   start a command procedure, that installs and starts the dqdriverA >   properly. Then, as already mentioned, you have an old chipset ? >   in your machine that prevents a boot from an IDE-drive. But A >   if you install the driver (a command-procedure comes with the ; >   drdriver-source) the CD/DVD works without any problems.  > 	 >eberhard  >  >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). @ >Version: 6.0.385 / Virus Database: 217 - Release Date: 9/4/2002 >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.385 / Virus Database: 217 - Release Date: 9/4/2002    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:44:00 GMT 8 From: hammond@not@peek.ppb.cpqcorp.net (Charlie Hammond)* Subject: Re: How to debug PRODUCT INSTAL ?2 Message-ID: <kmkh9.11$m33.383094@news.cpqcorp.net>  \ In article <3D830A8A.7C048130@videotron.ca>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@videotron.ca> writes:7 >Ok, Installed TCPIP 5.3 on node BIKE without problems.  > H >But on VELO, the PRODUCT INSTAL fails consistently after the 90% stage. > # >I tried /LOG but that was useless. ( >I tried /TRACE  and all it yielded was  >that it issued L > @psci$source:[sysmgr]cleanup_ucx.com    (while does just an exit since UCX >never existed on my systems)  >  > 4 >PCSI-I-PRCOUTPUT, output from subprocess follows... >$STATUS = %10A38012 > D >PCSI-F-EXEINSFAIL, product supplied EXECUTE INSTAL procedure failed% >installation failed bla bla bla bla.   I The POLYCENTER Software Installation (PCSI) utility does not know what is H happening within a user supplied EXECUTE INSTALL procedure.  That is whyJ neither /LOG nore /TRACE will tell you much, except the name of the failed EXECUTE procedure.  C I advocate that *ALL* EXECUTE procedures should have a conditional  D SET VERIFY that will turn on VERIFY if some logical name is defined.F For example, if you look at SYS$COMMON:[SYSEXE]AXPVMS$PCSI_INSTALL.COMC you will see that if AXPVMS$PCSI_EXECUTE_VERIFY is defined as "YES" C then verify is turned on.  This technique can be (has been!) _very_ D useful.  Unfortunately, it relies on the kit builder's having set it up for you in advance.  A If you don't have a kit that does this, you can copy the kit to a ? reference format (see HELP PRODUCT COPY /FORMAT) and modify the B particular execute prodecure (@psci$source:[sysmgr]cleanup_ucx.comC in this case) to turn on verify.  You can install directly from the D modified reference format kit, or copy it back to sequential format.   --  I       Charlie Hammond -- Hewlett-Packard Company -- Pompano Beach  FL USA H        (hammond@not@peek.ppb.cpqcorp.net -- remove "@not" when replying)J       All opinions expressed are my own and not necessarily my employer's.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:51:53 +0200 3 From: Philipp Brenner <news0405@brenner-online.net> , Subject: How to reach montagar.com by e-mail8 Message-ID: <vldboukcfrno2v8tab60s62hblqmap331f@4ax.com>   Hi all,   5 does anyone know how to contact Montagar.com by mail? B I seam unable to write an e-mail to webmaster <AT> montagar.com as< their mailserver (pelican.montagar.com, 209.39.152.5) is not
 reachable.   cheers,  Philipp    ------------------------------   Date: 16 Sep 02 16:30:14 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) C Subject: HTML to browse the Freeware CDs - grab a copy if you wish. ) Message-ID: <hqNGgysqUuwY@elias.decus.ch>   G During a search through the VMS Freeware CDs recently, a colleague came = up with a couple of bits of HTML to make browing them easier.   9 Feel free to grab copies from http://www.sture.homeip.net   : The version I have put up points to the online Freeware at9 www.openvms.compaq.com. Feel free to grab copies and edit  according to your own needs.   __
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:24:23 GMT * From: Mark Boyes <Mark.Boyes@hp.comdespam> Subject: Re: IMAP performance 2 Message-ID: <bYkh9.13$c53.439462@news.cpqcorp.net>   JF Mezei wrote:  > Arne Vajhj wrote: >    > 2 >>Sounds to me as if UCS 5.3 IMAP is not ready for >>serious usage yet !  >  > N > In all fairness, perhaps the ridiculous consumption of memory and time spentP > was due to the mail being /FOREIGN instead of a message already in mime storedM > as text. Maybe I should try to put into my vms mailbox a bona fide internet / > "format" large message and see how it reacts.   E Actually, the performance should be *better* with /FOREIGN messages:  I processing for those messages bypasses the standard MAILSHR API are read  B a block at a time, base64 encoded and streamed to the client. The H MAILSHR API requires the whole message be read into memory, and that is G used for "normal", text, mail. Note this includes any binary bodyparts  @ received over SMTP: they are MIME encoded i.e. effectively text.  E When most IMAP clients first open a folder they do a scan on all the  D headers in that folder and the size of the messages (converted into E MIME). Each subsequent time, they tend to only check for differences  C i.e. new mail and deletions. MAILSHR will load the entirety of any  I non-FOREIGN mail in the clicked folder into memory while processing this  A open-folder operation. Work is afoot to address this in IMAP and  F MAILSHR. But it should only be a big problem the *first* time a given ' folder is opened (from a given client).    Mark Former IMAP developer    ------------------------------   Date: 16 Sep 02 17:29:06 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) * Subject: Re: License issue with cluster...) Message-ID: <fgplhGz2imlp@elias.decus.ch>   _ In article <JCmh9.3$w5.66946@news.randori.com>, jclausen@co.walker.tx.us (John Clausen) writes: O > I am using a Hobbyist license for OpenVMS and would like to set up a cluster.  > Q > Creating the cluster is not a problem, however I loose my VAX-VMS license when   > I do.  > O > Is the Hobbyist licensing just now going to work, or is there something I am  
 > missing. >   E Not a problem here. I have a separate Hobbyist _VMS_ license for both ( nodes in the cluster. Then I had to do a  ? $ LICENSE MODIFY OPENVMS-ALPHA/AUTH=my_auth_no_1 /INCLUDE=NODE1 ? $ LICENSE MODIFY OPENVMS-ALPHA/AUTH=my_auth_no_2 /INCLUDE=NODE2   3 to restrict each license to the node it belongs to.   @ If you do a LICENSE LIST/FULL of the relevant licenses, you will> see that the NO_SHARE option is enabled, hence the need to tie( down each license to an individual node.   __
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 18:02:22 +1200  From: "AG" <ang@xtra.co.nz> A Subject: Re: Microsoft reeling from hack attacks, VMS just yawns! 3 Message-ID: <xteh9.6754$Y3.1372595@news.xtra.co.nz>   3 "Jan-Erik Sderholm" <aaa@aaa.com> wrote in message ! news:3D7EEC4A.868773E0@aaa.com... 4 > What has "Train  Grande Vitesse" to do woth this? >  > :-)   9 Not sure which way to read that smiley but, just in case:   + A quick search for "TGV + train + software" " turns up in the first few results:  * http://www.seas.gwu.edu/~mfeldman/tgv.html   A small quote from there:    *** # The TVM 430 Development Environment L The TVM 430 system software was completely developed and tested on a VAX/VMS6 computer and compiled with an Alsys Ada cross compiler   ***        >  > Jan-Erik Sderholm >  > John Smith wrote:  > > 9 > > "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in message ; > > news:d7791aa1.0209101058.18419917@posting.google.com...  > > > J > > > I talked to Rich Marcello about this awhile ago ... why do you thinkH > > > they went ahead and did the DS25 for VMS, because I told him about@ > > > customers like us who needed small workgroup solutions ... > >  > > Remember TGV?    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Sep 2002 08:24:29 -07006 From: julien.courtemanche@telintrans.fr (courtemanche) Subject: MKISOFS ans VMS 7.3= Message-ID: <95f61f2f.0209160724.3c6b8e5e@posting.google.com>    hello,  F i'm using mkisofs with an openVMS 7.2 since a long time ago (one year) without no problem. D Today with VMS 7.3 mkisofs (version 1.0.5) seems loop on a fwrite in& vms_write_one_file of the vms.c files.  B I try making an other compile or link but apparently, it blocks on
 this line.  % somebody have clue for this problem ?    thanks   ------------------------------   Date: 16 Sep 02 17:21:39 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) + Subject: Mozilla Referer Privacy Leak found ) Message-ID: <aUIEUrsQErQ1@elias.decus.ch>   % A Mozilla privacy bug has been found:   0 http://members.ping.de/~sven/mozbug/refcook.html    , "Mozilla Referer Privacy Leak Demonstration   K For this demonstration, you need to enable cookies. The bug itself does not ' require cookies to be enabled, however. , You need to enable JavaScript for this bug.    Now,    *      follow a link to leave this webpage, 0      enter a new address in the location bar or        use one of your bookmarks.    Then, return to this page.    O The onunload handler will try to load an image from this webserver. The referer " of the http request for this image5 will be the page you are visiting next, not this page D (http://members.ping.de/~sven/mozbug/refcook.html) as it should be. N For this demonstration, the image loaded is really a script that sets a cookie with the request referer. "    __
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:27:52 +0400 / From: Konstantin Klubnichkin <kostik@beenet.ru> ) Subject: Non-standard installation of VMS ( Message-ID: <3D85CE48.7000402@beenet.ru>   Hi ppl!   C I have Hobbyist CD now but still have no CDROM for my uVAX-3100/40. C I have 2 disks inside and VMS 5.5-2 installed. Also I have network  - (DECNET & IP) on VAX and DECNET on Linux box. H So when I looked into "OpenVMS hobbyist guide" I saw that after booting  system from CD user has to do 8 BACKUP/IMAGE <CDROM_DEVICE>:VMS072.B/SAVE <SYSTEM_DISK>:I Idea is to put all images from CD to second (non-system) disk via DECNET  C from Linux box, boot system up from second disk (it's bootable and  E contains VMS 5.5-2 too) and restore saveset  VMS072.B to system disk. " Is it possible way to install VMS? Any suggestions?     Thanks! 
 Best regards,  Konstantin Klubnichkin   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 10:47:55 +0100 ( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>7 Subject: Re: Opcom when SYSGEN modifies the params file ) Message-ID: <3D85A8CB.66CF9715@127.0.0.1>    JF Mezei wrote:  >  > Didier Morandi wrote:  > > T > > With a MicroVAX (that I remember you are using), OPCOM is not started by default > > at boot time.  > P > Yep, it is started by default. (in the microvax II, but on the workstation, it3 > isn't and its messages are sent to the microvax).  > M > My question pertains to the specific message that is issued when you modify  > sysgen parameters.  ' There's a SET AUDIT/ALARM/ENABLE=SYSGEN   H However that generates an AUDIT which is dealt with in the usual way. OnB a system where I also get the OPCOM message, I now get both having enabled the audit.  H I would imagine that it is SYSGEN itself that creates the OPCOM message,F the audit hits OPCOM and SYSGEN is the image listed as having made the
 modification.   F I'm not aware of (haven't looked for any) changes, and my observations above are from a 6.2 system.  > Having tried this on a 7.3 VAX, no OPCOM message was observed.  1 Tried it on a 7.2 VAX and again no OPCOM message.   E I don't have a non-production 7.1 VAX I can try it on. I don't recall H anything about this in the release notes, but if there is, it is left as an exercise to the reader. --  ? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences  nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------   Date: 16 Sep 02 14:37:20 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 7 Subject: Re: Opcom when SYSGEN modifies the params file ) Message-ID: <9tw3idR6je6U@elias.decus.ch>   W In article <3D85682E.5D44A6E8@Free.fr>, Didier Morandi <Didier.Morandi@Free.fr> writes: R > With a MicroVAX (that I remember you are using), OPCOM is not started by defaultP > at boot time. Ensure that the OPCOM process is running. If it is not, start it > manually with the command: >  > $ @sys$system:startup opcom  > M > then remove the comment at the beginning of the line which starts it in the  > systartup_vms.com procedure. > I > Then do a REPLY/ENABLE to receive OPCOM messages (disabled by default).  >  > D. >  > JF Mezei wrote:  >>  M >> I used to have some alarm generated on OPA0: (not a security alarm, but an Z >> OPCOM message) whenever SYSGEN wrote the VAXVMSSYS.PAR file (eg: SYSGEN> write current) >>  ; >> I just noticed that this doesn't seem to happen anymore.  >>  P >> It has been so long since I had set this up that I forgot where to set it. IsJ >> it a SYSGEN parameter (such as the mountmsg)  ? or some form of alarm ? >>  & >> or has that facility been removed ?  C IIRC it was always the case that by default MicroVMS did not create  and OPERATOR.LOG on startup.  G And back in the V6.2 timeframe I discovered that Aplhas with a graphics D head would exhibit similar behaviour, presumably with the assumption4 that it would be a workstation rather then a server.  I I had a conversation with Hoff here a year or two ago on the subject, and C I can confirm that I am now getting the logfile created (Alph V7.3,  with graphics head) by having:  * $ define /system OPC$LOGFILE_ENABLE "TRUE"   in SYLOGICALS.COM   D My workaround before this was fixed was something like the following in SYLOGICALS.COM:   $       define sys$command opa0  $       reply /enable  $       reply /log $       deassign sys$command     __
 Paul Sture Switzerland    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Sep 2002 07:02:10 -0700. From: mistdragon@zdnetonebox.com (mist dragon) Subject: Re: Oracle Problem = Message-ID: <7500353b.0209160602.20fbcf88@posting.google.com>    Rick,   A As said before: try tuning tune shared pool. New versions usually  consume more shared pool.   D Its on the release notes that say that this 8.1.7.2 fixed a bug thatC caused ORA-600 (db corruption) and now its correctly indicated that  shared pool is too small.   ' Here is the error from release notes :     Bug 1340718      Fixed: 8172  4 Crash - Issues likely to cause an Instance to crash A If CKPT gets an ORA-4031 error it may not clean up the checkpoint ? entries properly resulting in an ORA-600 [KCBSTC_PARENT_AB] and  an instance crash.   Workaround: 8   Tune the shared pool so as not to get ORA-4031 errors.  D But there are other possibilities. 4031 may be caused by my specific sql sentences etc.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:55:47 +0000 2 From: John Eisenschmidt <jweisen@eisenschmidt.org> Subject: Re: Oracle Problem 4 Message-ID: <20020916155547.I28527@eisenschmidt.org>  F Are you experiencing the problem where the LSNRCTL is showing multiple= instances of the same DB name? We had that problem even after C upgrading to 8.1.7.3.0. The solution was to add an instance name to  the init.ora file:   DB_NAME = AMPROD INSTANCE_NAME = AMPROD  F As for the locking, I know I don't need to tell you this, but you needE to isolate if it's a Oracle locking issue or a VMS locking issue. Use ; the dynamic data dictionary views in Oracle to clue you in:   , --rem check which sessions are still running+ select sid, serial#, status from v$session;   E You can also use V$LOCK, V$LOCK_ACTIVITY, V$LOCKS_WITH_COLLISSIONS to D see what's going on in the database. If you're not seeing contention' there, it could be a problem with VMS.    ? I wouldn't monkey with the shared pool size until you know your D database needs tuning. You might want to setup a resource monitor in7 DBA Studio and watch to see if you pass any thresholds.   
 Good Luck, John    F Unless the Voices are Mistaken, Main, Kerry (Kerry.Main@hp.com) Wrote: > Rick,  > D > <<< Anybody seen this or have any trouble-shooting suggestions?>>> > K > >From a generic troubleshooting perspective, I might suspect some form of E > locking issue whereby some deadlock breaking timer kicks in after x F > minutes. This would explain why other TCPIP connections are fine and+ > only the Oracle connections are impacted.  > H > Perhaps the Oracle DBA that you have could arrange for some form of DBG > locking monitoring and tracking when this error re-occurs? Also, they I > could check their Oracle parameters with respect to deadlocks to see if 9 > they correspond to the time these connections are hung.  > 
 > Regards, >  > Kerry Main > Senior Consultant  > Hewlett-Packard Canada# > Consulting & Integration Services  > Voice: 613-592-4660  > Fax   : 613-591-4477 > Email: Kerry.Main@hp.com >  >  > -----Original Message-----: > From: Rick Millhollin [mailto:rickm@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU] " > Sent: September 11, 2002 6:19 PM' > To: Info MultiNet List; Info VAX List  > Subject: Oracle Problem  >  > I > We are having a very intermittent Oracle SQLnet (we think) problem that J > I'm wondering if anybody else has seen.  Our environment is VMS 7.3 withI > lots of patches, MultiNet 4.4 with most all patches, and Oracle 8.1.7.3 I > with a couple of what our DBA calls "critical" SQLnet patches.  Our big C > Oracle applications are primarily client (Windows) / Server (VMS) C > SQLforms.  Every now and then all SQLnet connection requests stop C > responding and existing connections hang.  It's as if SQLnet just I > freezes, and it happens on all database instances across two VMScluster G > nodes.  Then in a minute or so everything breaks free.  Other network I > activity on the systems is not effected and appears totally normal.  We I > can't find anything in listener logs (or any others).  It seems to have G > started after the last VMS and Oracle upgrades, but not right away as J > far as I can tell.  We're totally baffled on how to further diagnose theI > situation.  Anybody seen this or have any trouble-shooting suggestions?  > Thanks...  > 3 > Rick Millhollin, Director of Computing Facilities B > University of Oregon Computing Center, Eugene, Oregon 97403-12122 > Phone: (541)346-1730  FAX: (541)346-6438 or 4397" > E-mail: rickm@oregon.uoregon.edu   --  / John W. Eisenschmidt <jweisen@eisenschmidt.org> C    Public Key   |  http://www.eisenschmidt.org/jweisen/misc/pgp.asc D    Fingerprint  |  5F9B F916 5AD1 3295 CF99 BC1E 1F97 E6A3 37E3 BEF2J Is this mail an attachment? http://www.jensbenecke.de/misc/outlook.en.html   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 09:41:16 -0400 ; From: "Webb, William W Raleigh, NC" <wwebb1@email.usps.gov> E Subject: RE: Preinstalled hobby VMS distribution on resold hardware q K Message-ID: <BA52530E3149734A9BAABDBBFA808E49028BEAC1@rlghncst964.usps.gov>   - When I sold my Multia, since I'd already gone . through the hardware and software tribulations- which are mandatory in order to to get VMS to / run on it, I told the purchaser to forward his  $ hobbyist license emails to me, and I. removed my licenses and installed his prior to sending it out.    WWWebb   -----Original Message-----6 From: "Didier Morandi" [mailto:Didier.Morandi@Free.fr]( Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 3:41 AM To: "Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com" E Subject: RE: Preinstalled hobby VMS distribution on resold hardware q      Rich Jordan wrote: > G > Is it legal to sell/resell hardware, in this case without an existing H > commercial (transferable) license, and include a fresh install (on topH > of a hard erase of the disk) of VMS (DECnet? TCPIP?), but with no PAKsB > installed, hobbyist or otherwise?  Such a system would boot to aD > username prompt on the display (or on the console serial port) andI > 'prove' operational status, and perhaps save someone from having to dig J > up media that is apparently not always easy to get, even though they canI > get the hobbyist license PAKs themselves. It would not really be useful G > until they got licenses but I could put the latest releases on it, to J > the benefit of a possible purchasing hobbyist user without media access.  " Well, the answer to me is obvious.  E As long as it is not sold, it is yours and it is legal to have "your" 	 (actually J HP's) software with your licenses installed. When the purchase is done, it isJ still HP software without license for the purchaser. I do not see why s/he would D erase the disk and wait for receiving the Hobbyist CD to rebuild it.   My personal advice is YES.   D.   ------------------------------    Date: 15 Sep 2002 23:20:25 -0700/ From: chinachowchow@mailcity.com (Rick Nickles) = Subject: Re: Seeking Senior VMS System Administrator Position = Message-ID: <ac4e3b24.0209152220.4c116fee@posting.google.com>   3 Hi,  Sorry about that - I live in Stevens Point, WI    Rick      Z p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) wrote in message news:<5JpO2frST7xo@elias.decus.ch>...q > In article <ac4e3b24.0209141413.40c3f946@posting.google.com>, chinachowchow@mailcity.com (Rick Nickles) writes:  > > Thanks so much!! > > H > > Please let me know if you have other ideas! As far as geography I amH > > open.  I realize that I will probably need to relocate, contract, orI > > work from home somehow.  There isn't much in this area.  I would like I > > to make sure that wherever the work has a good work market so that if F > > something happens I can find another place to go without uprooting > > over and over. > >  > > thanks!  > > Rick > >  > G > But you still didn't answer the question. You never know, there could H > be a potential employer close by, that you don't know about. I mentionK > this because a few years ago I stumbled across a local job with a company D > who I had assumed was pure IBM, but turned out to run VMS as well,= > simply because I mentioned my location in a newsgroup post.  >  > l > > Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote in message news:<Ewq47tZ5sOcT@eisner.encompasserve.org>...p > >> In article <M7vg9.15992$Wa.914882@twister.southeast.rr.com>, "Kenneth Farmer" <kfarmer@openvms.org> writes:S > >> > You may want to post this message in the OpenVMS.org resume forum.  It can't  > >> > hurt. > >> >  1 > >> > http://www.openvms.org/phorum/list.php?f=3  > >>  ? > >> It also would not hurt to indicate a geography preference.  > >> C >  > <snip> > __ > Paul Sture
 > Switzerland    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 14:58:59 +0200i( From: "Lex Beekman" <a.w.beekman@wxs.nl>
 Subject: snmpi* Message-ID: <am4kj9$agi$1@reader13.wxs.nl>   Does anyone know the error :  K "Invalid destination host name : rtds5a" and after that I got the message :o "permission denied". This error C happens after trying to send a message with the snmp trapmechanism.r   Thanks.f   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 08:59:41 +0100 (MET)f9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>M5 Subject: Re: TCPIP installation/management suggestiond; Message-ID: <01KMK9UFUVWY9OF8NK@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>m  J > Going from 5.0 to 5.3, there is a LOT of stuff that is added. While thisH > is cool, I find that the installation procedure (once the bug has been1 > fixed and you can install) is still very weak. o > H > I find that keeping SYS$MANAGER: clean hard enough, but with all thoseC > TCPIP files in there, it gets more and more difficult to manage. i > I > And with all sorts of new goodies arriving, the TCPIP package has grownuB > in size and number of files sufficiently to be "broken" up in my > opinion. -  D As has been said here already a few times, TCPIP really needs to be C reorganised.  Functionally, there is no need for a radical change,  E rewrite etc.  Slow evolution is best here.  However, what goes where mB needs to be thought out in more detail, especially with regard to 	 clusters.   G Also, it would be nice if the syntax for the various commands could be  I made consistent.  Sometimes, one adds CONFIGURATION after SET to make it S9 permanent, sometimes there is a /PERMANENT qualifier etc.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:35:55 +0530o; From: "aniruddha patwardhan" <aniruddha_patwardhan@bmc.com>l# Subject: warning in  compilation...m/ Message-ID: <uobeo6436dra6a@corp.supernews.com>    Hi,c  F In my SHCE.C program I am inclusing one TEST.H file which contain only
 variable XYZ.e  K Now I am compiling a set of .C programs (including SHCE.C) to generate .OBJd programs using mms file.  L But I get the warnings of following type for each and every .C file included in the .mms.  4 %LINK-W-MULPSC, conflicting attributes for psect XYZ in module PRINT_DISK_LIST file8 DISK$USER01:[USER.APATWARD.VIEWOBJ_ANI.CPDEV]SHCE.OLB;13  4 %LINK-W-MULPSC, conflicting attributes for psect XYZ&         in module SHCECONFIG_INIT file8 DISK$USER01:[USER.APATWARD.VIEWOBJ_ANI.CPDEV]SHCE.OLB;13  4 %LINK-W-MULPSC, conflicting attributes for psect XYZH in module GET_MAJOR_NODE file DISK$USER01:[USER.APATWARD.VIEWOBJ_ANI.CPD EV]SHCE.OLB;13  B These files not even include TEST.H neither they use variable XYZ.6 Please help me how to go about removing these warnings   TIAg	 Aniruddhar   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 12:50:56 GMTh From: system@SendSpamHere.ORGe' Subject: Re: warning in  compilation...m0 Message-ID: <00A140E6.A2894653@SendSpamHere.ORG>  m In article <uobeo6436dra6a@corp.supernews.com>, "aniruddha patwardhan" <aniruddha_patwardhan@bmc.com> writes:i >Hi, >eG >In my SHCE.C program I am inclusing one TEST.H file which contain only  >variable XYZ. >"L >Now I am compiling a set of .C programs (including SHCE.C) to generate .OBJ >programs using mms file.- >-M >But I get the warnings of following type for each and every .C file includedt
 >in the .mms.N >M5 >%LINK-W-MULPSC, conflicting attributes for psect XYZ  >in module PRINT_DISK_LIST filee9 >DISK$USER01:[USER.APATWARD.VIEWOBJ_ANI.CPDEV]SHCE.OLB;13c ><5 >%LINK-W-MULPSC, conflicting attributes for psect XYZe' >        in module SHCECONFIG_INIT files9 >DISK$USER01:[USER.APATWARD.VIEWOBJ_ANI.CPDEV]SHCE.OLB;13a > 5 >%LINK-W-MULPSC, conflicting attributes for psect XYZ I >in module GET_MAJOR_NODE file DISK$USER01:[USER.APATWARD.VIEWOBJ_ANI.CPDa >EV]SHCE.OLB;13r >pC >These files not even include TEST.H neither they use variable XYZ.r7 >Please help me how to go about removing these warningsr >  >TIA
 >Aniruddha >e >   B First off, these are LINKER warnings and not compilation warnings.  M You have a program section with the name XYZ in more than one module includedtM in an object library you are linking against to produce your executable.  ThetL definition of this program section is not consistent in the modules definingL it.  Produce a linker .MAP and take a look at the definitions to resolve theC problem and correct the source so that XYZ is consistently defined.h   --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 16:14:24 +0200iE From: Jan C. =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vorbr=FCggen?= <jvorbrueggen@mediasec.de>bJ Subject: Re: What features/capabilities would you like to see available on+ Message-ID: <3D85E740.E2E81580@mediasec.de>v  O > : However, the Unix commands are inconsistent in their usage in pipes anyway. G > : Some need the "-" instead of their input (or output), others don't.. > Example, please?   grep doesn't, lpr does.a   	Jan   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 11:33:14 GMTo? From: Jim.Johnson@software-exploration.nospam.com (Jim Johnson)nS Subject: Re: What features/capabilities would you like to see available on OpenVMS?n0 Message-ID: <3d85c177.12962449@news.demon.co.uk>  & Thanks to everyone for their comments.  F I'm afraid that I was on a trip and off the net for the past week+, soB I'm only now getting a chance to read these.  At first reading, itC looks like there are a some interesting thoughts here.  I'll post a  further reply in a few days.   Jim.    C On 5 Sep 2002 16:45:59 GMT, sy18889@rabmbit.famrp.cosm (Bradford J.y Hamilton) wrote:  F >There is (are) XML pasers in Java and C++, located on the "e-businessP >Infrastructure" CD (v1.3) that was shipped with our copy of VMS 7.3-1.  I can'tJ >say if this is Xerces, and I note that this does not exactly fullfill the< >"wish" expressed in the note below, but is it close enough? >:d >In article <NtdMeS7tsPgL@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:h >> In article <9280A9BF9warrenspencer1977@216.168.3.30>, wspencer@ap.nospam.org (Warren Spencer) writes: >> nF >>> Here's a couple of things that frustrate me in the last 12 months: >>> V >>> * An SMTP API that can do MIME encoding right (instead of those interactive tools  >>> like MIME and MPACKe >>> N >>> * Programatic access to ODBC-compliant databases hosted on other platforms >>> # >>> * An XML parser callable from C$ >> .D >> The Apache Group has one called Xerces, which various people haveE >> ported to VMS.  I thought I read that VMS V7.3-1 comes with a portRE >> of Xerces on one of the ancillary disks (not part of the base OS).C >--  >Bradford J. Hamiltong' >braMdhamAilPtoSn@aMtAtPbi.cSom		(home)p' >sMy1A88P89S@rabMbit.fAmPr.coSm		(work)i >p< >"All opinions that I express are my own, not my employer's" >"Lose the MAPS"   Jim Johnsond Software Exploration, Ltd.) (remove '.nospam' from the reply address)    ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 13:02:39 +0000 (UTC)i% From: John Forkosh <john@invalid.com>  Subject: Re: WTC cruft, Message-ID: <am4kpf$kpr$1@reader1.panix.com>  0 itsy bitsy meowbot <53ab2750@meowing.net> wrote: : Paul Repacholi wrote: @ : > With Battery Park oposite, that should be no problem at all. : > ' : > BTW, where does the name come from?m  > : A military installation was built there during the 1812 war.  = You can still see (and walk through) the remnants of the fortp; in Battery Park, which, by the way, is not opposite the WTC ' site but is about 6 blocks south of it. <      And, as a NYC resident (who actually had a VMS contract? in the WTC at Cantor Fitzgerald in the mid 1990's), let me risk1: saying that the o.p. is completely and totally alone about; not having a memorial at the site itself.  I don't think it @ will have any negative emotional impact on the commercial spaces that eventually share the site.. -- o> John Forkosh  ( mailto:  j@f.com  where j=john and f=forkosh )   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2002.512 ************************