1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 14 Apr 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 205       Contents:5 Re: attention Sue: alert your task force immediately! 5 Re: attention Sue: alert your task force immediately! 5 Re: attention Sue: alert your task force immediately! 5 Re: attention Sue: alert your task force immediately! 5 Re: attention Sue: alert your task force immediately! 5 Re: attention Sue: alert your task force immediately! . Changing AlphaStation ES40 to Alphaserver es402 Re: Changing AlphaStation ES40 to Alphaserver es402 Re: Changing AlphaStation ES40 to Alphaserver es40 Re: CHARON VAX Hobbyist kit % DECchip 21030/21130 graphics chipset. $ DECNET equivalent to ping/traceroute DECnet hacker? Re: DECnet hacker? Re: DECnet hacker? Re: DECnet hacker? Re: DECnet hacker? Re: DECnet hacker? Re: DECnet hacker? Re: DECnet hacker? Re: DECnet hacker? Re: DECnet hacker?, Re: Email to Geoff.Graves@hp.com is rejected, Re: Email to Geoff.Graves@hp.com is rejected Re: Flash player?  Re: looking for VMS work Re: looking for VMS work Re: looking for VMS work Re: Memory for Alpha 800 Re: Memory for Alpha 800 Re: Memory interchangability ?' Re: Need to buy 8 x VAX 4000 or similar ' Re: Need to buy 8 x VAX 4000 or similar ' Re: Need to buy 8 x VAX 4000 or similar ' Re: Need to buy 8 x VAX 4000 or similar E Re: Personal Firewalls - was Email to Geoff.Graves@hp.com is rejected  Question about acronym IPF RE: Question about acronym IPF1 Re: Questions on MSPC serving FC SAN disks to VAX @ Re: Spam from HP (was: Email to Geoff.Graves@hp.com is rejected)@ Re: Spam from HP (was: Email to Geoff.Graves@hp.com is rejected) TCPIP 5.3-182 (vax) IMAP buglet 1 Re: VMS Advertising & Marketing - a status report G Re: VMS Engineering quality standards, was: Re: Problem with VMS731_LAN  What is a VMS Cluster  Re: What is a VMS Cluster  Re: What is a VMS Cluster  XDM problems (TCPIP 5.3)  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:00:43 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> > Subject: Re: attention Sue: alert your task force immediately!' Message-ID: <3E99DE0B.743123D1@fsi.net>    John Smith wrote:  > > > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message# > news:3E98D1A6.70525DAA@fsi.net...  > > JF Mezei wrote:  > > > ! > > > re: usage of word "legacy".  > > > G > > > No matter what the "industry standard" definition of legacy might  > be.  > > > B > > > In the VMS environment, applying the word legacy brings back
 > memories of F > > > Palmer, attempts at killing VMS, distrust of the vendor, lack of > marketing H > > > etc. It is synonymous with all of VMS' management problems and has > nothing to > > > do with technology.  > > > E > > > Using the word "legacy" in the VMS enviroment strikes extremely 
 > negative( > > > response from loyal VMS customers. > > > F > > > More importantly, the CONTINUED use of "legacy" when refering to > VMS byD > > > HP/Compaq is a clear sign that the management folks are out of > touch with theE > > > VMS community and/or are out to insult and send a clear message  > that VMS is on > > > its way out. > > > E > > > At this point in time, Marcelo and friends are fully aware that  > the use of theE > > > word LEGACY has extremely negative connotations. Any attempt by  > VMS managementD > > > or higher to justify continued use of the word translates into > "yeah, we knowF > > > exactly what message it sends, which is exectaly why we use that > word because, > > > it sends the message we need to send". > > D > > I'd qualify that as "the message we INTEND to send". The message > they' > > NEED to send is quite the contrary.  > ? > I agree, however Bart Zorn did not indicate *exactly* who was E > responsible for inserting the dreaded "L" word in the brochure, and E > who subsequently approved the proofs coming off the printing press.   7 Some borg drone - who is not as important as what, IMO.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 18:07:06 -0700 9 From: "gregc at gregcagle.com" <"gregc at gregcagle.com"> > Subject: Re: attention Sue: alert your task force immediately!/ Message-ID: <v9k2dtb2dm8j9f@corp.supernews.com>    David J. Dachtera wrote: > John Smith wrote:  > ? >>I agree, however Bart Zorn did not indicate *exactly* who was E >>responsible for inserting the dreaded "L" word in the brochure, and E >>who subsequently approved the proofs coming off the printing press.  >  > 9 > Some borg drone - who is not as important as what, IMO.   = I think you missed the point - it may very well have not been  an HP employee.    --  
 Greg Cagle gregc at gregcagle dot com   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:33:07 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> > Subject: Re: attention Sue: alert your task force immediately!' Message-ID: <3E9A0FD3.2E9B657F@fsi.net>    "gregc at gregcagle.com" wrote:  >  > David J. Dachtera wrote: > > John Smith wrote:  > > A > >>I agree, however Bart Zorn did not indicate *exactly* who was G > >>responsible for inserting the dreaded "L" word in the brochure, and G > >>who subsequently approved the proofs coming off the printing press.  > >  > > ; > > Some borg drone - who is not as important as what, IMO.  > ? > I think you missed the point - it may very well have not been  > an HP employee.   C Still applies if they think WhineBloze is the world and vice-versa.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 18:54:32 -0700 9 From: "gregc at gregcagle.com" <"gregc at gregcagle.com"> > Subject: Re: attention Sue: alert your task force immediately!/ Message-ID: <v9k56q4d38stbf@corp.supernews.com>    David J. Dachtera wrote:  E > Still applies if they think WhineBloze is the world and vice-versa.   B How do you draw this conclusion from the use of the word "legacy"?   --  
 Greg Cagle gregc at gregcagle dot com   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:36:50 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> > Subject: Re: attention Sue: alert your task force immediately!' Message-ID: <3E9A2CD2.3CF723A2@fsi.net>    "gregc at gregcagle.com" wrote:  >  > David J. Dachtera wrote: > G > > Still applies if they think WhineBloze is the world and vice-versa.  > D > How do you draw this conclusion from the use of the word "legacy"?  F Because the bulk of the people who use the term "legacy" are trying toE refer to systems with which they have no experience and which they do < not understand, and/or which they consider a threat to their "point-and-click" world.  E By definition, this includes others outside of HP and encompasses the G overwhelming bulk of the Windows world, but is not limited to that set.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 03:59:10 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> > Subject: Re: attention Sue: alert your task force immediately!H Message-ID: <imqma.32413$jVh.23672@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  < "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message! news:3E9A2CD2.3CF723A2@fsi.net... ! > "gregc at gregcagle.com" wrote:  > >  > > David J. Dachtera wrote: > > = > > > Still applies if they think WhineBloze is the world and  vice-versa.  > > F > > How do you draw this conclusion from the use of the word "legacy"? > E > Because the bulk of the people who use the term "legacy" are trying  toD > refer to systems with which they have no experience and which they do> > not understand, and/or which they consider a threat to their > "point-and-click" world. > C > By definition, this includes others outside of HP and encompasses  the D > overwhelming bulk of the Windows world, but is not limited to that set.    D I know of a lovely application written in Cobol in 1984 that's stillD running on Honeywell DPS6 gear...roughly a MVII class machine, usingE GCOS as the o/s. Definitely not Windows, and definitely not legacy in C the eyes of the company still using the application. The machine is B fast enough, and they have a good supply of spares. They move data> using a combination of tape and 2780/3780 to other systems forF additional reporting, but the core application is still running on the$ DPS6 - nice machine and o/s in fact.   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Apr 2003 14:33:32 -0700 From: mb301@hotmail.com (MB)7 Subject: Changing AlphaStation ES40 to Alphaserver es40 = Message-ID: <1d08b916.0304131333.2757ac90@posting.google.com>   F Does anyone know how to change a AlphaStation ES40 to AlphaServer es40 type?   @ I have already found a posting on Goolge about changing A DS20E.   http://groups.google.com/groups?q=change+ALPHASTATION/ALPHASERVER+setting&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=fa.rnvlq9v.1bhgtg7%40ifi.uio.no&rnum=1    If I try the above it says:-   P00>>> EXAMINE IIC_RCM_NVRAM:11  no such file< file open failed for examine_render:"8 1" /iic_rcm_nvram0:11E error opening device examine_render:"8 1" /iic_rcm_nvram0:11 for read  access.    Many thanks for yor help.    Mark   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 00:04:39 GMT # From: "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com> ; Subject: Re: Changing AlphaStation ES40 to Alphaserver es40 = Message-ID: <rWmma.144310$j8.3165167@twister.tampabay.rr.com>   L Ok.  Stupid question time.   What is the difference between an Alpha Station= and an Alphaserver?  Is an Alpha station limited to one user?   ) "MB" <mb301@hotmail.com> wrote in message 7 news:1d08b916.0304131333.2757ac90@posting.google.com... H > Does anyone know how to change a AlphaStation ES40 to AlphaServer es40 > type?  > B > I have already found a posting on Goolge about changing A DS20E. >  > L http://groups.google.com/groups?q=change+ALPHASTATION/ALPHASERVER+setting&hlE =en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=fa.rnvlq9v.1bhgtg7%40ifi.uio.no&rnum=1  >  > If I try the above it says:- > ! > P00>>> EXAMINE IIC_RCM_NVRAM:11  > no such file> > file open failed for examine_render:"8 1" /iic_rcm_nvram0:11G > error opening device examine_render:"8 1" /iic_rcm_nvram0:11 for read 	 > access.  >  > Many thanks for yor help.  >  > Mark >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:35:21 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> ; Subject: Re: Changing AlphaStation ES40 to Alphaserver es40 ' Message-ID: <3E9A1059.1CE9EE29@fsi.net>    "John N." wrote: > N > Ok.  Stupid question time.   What is the difference between an Alpha Station? > and an Alphaserver?  Is an Alpha station limited to one user?   ; Yeah - same here: an Enterprise class (_E_S40) workstation?   B I don't get that one, but there's a lotta goofy stuff that I don't get...  + > "MB" <mb301@hotmail.com> wrote in message 9 > news:1d08b916.0304131333.2757ac90@posting.google.com... J > > Does anyone know how to change a AlphaStation ES40 to AlphaServer es40	 > > type?  > > D > > I have already found a posting on Goolge about changing A DS20E. > >  > > N > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=change+ALPHASTATION/ALPHASERVER+setting&hlG > =en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=fa.rnvlq9v.1bhgtg7%40ifi.uio.no&rnum=1  > >   > > If I try the above it says:- > > # > > P00>>> EXAMINE IIC_RCM_NVRAM:11  > > no such file@ > > file open failed for examine_render:"8 1" /iic_rcm_nvram0:11I > > error opening device examine_render:"8 1" /iic_rcm_nvram0:11 for read  > > access.  > >  > > Many thanks for yor help.  > >  > > Mark > >      --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:18:40 -0400 * From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <stan@stanq.com>$ Subject: Re: CHARON VAX Hobbyist kit, Message-ID: <3E99E240.8230.3E6981@localhost>  * On 11 Apr 2003 at 16:39, Bob Nestor wrote:D > I must be missing something here.  The VAX simh freeware works.  IF > runs all the DEC diagnostics so I can't imagine it is much different0 > from the Charon kit - other than speed.  [...]  F The big difference is that CHARON-VAX resellers support the product.  E I'd be glad to sell you a simh solution -- but most of the people on  D the list are focused on FREE.  Sorry, I'm already doing enough free F stuff for my local schools, church, etc.  I need something to pay the D bills -- because no one whose services I use (water, gas, electric, 1 phone, ISP, house mortgage, etc.) works for free.   
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------C Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363  Fax: +1 614 868-1671 1 8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147 = Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com       http://www.stanq.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:59:41 -0400 2 From: "Timothy Stark" <sword7nospam@speakeasy.org>. Subject: DECchip 21030/21130 graphics chipset.2 Message-ID: <2qudnR0ncLAjQASjXTWcoQ@speakeasy.net>   Hello folks,  H On NetBSD/alpha web site, I discovered that DECchip 21030/21130 graphicsG chipset on their documentation for programming.  I was looking for that J information through Compaq, etc but can't find any information about 21130K graphics chipset.  Does OpenVMS Alpha support DECchip 21130?   If so, which 3 products uses that chipset?  PowerStorm 3D30? etc..   
 Thank you.	 Tim Stark    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 00:30:48 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>- Subject: DECNET equivalent to ping/traceroute / Message-ID: <3E9A396F.AEF53083@vl.videotron.ca>   J One of my nodes exhibits an unusually long traceroute to any device on the lan. (90ms)   M Is there a DECNET equivalent to ping/traceroute that would allow me to get an M equivalent number ? I'd like to see if the unusually long TCPIP traceroute is L due to TCPIP software or whether it affects all ethernet connections on that machine. (Microvax 3100).    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:50:10 +0200 1 From: PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr>  Subject: DECnet hacker? 4 Message-ID: <3e99cd75$0$28749$626a54ce@news.free.fr>   Just got that:  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  13-APR-2003 22:46:02.12  %%%%%%%%%%%' Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on DTL02 P Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on DTL02, system id: 102 6 / Auditable event:          Network login failure 1 Event time:               13-APR-2003 22:46:02.12 " PID:                      00000478) Process name:             TCPIP$FTPC00017 # Username:                 anonymous * Remote nodename:          f16v-1-57.d1.clu, Remote node id:           3569600569 (50.57)& Remote username:          FTP_D4C3C839; Status:                   %LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user   , Could it come from a DECnet network? (50.57)P (do not tell me that it means that my default FTP access does not exist, I just  removed it)    D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:59:47 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> Subject: Re: DECnet hacker? / Message-ID: <3E99DDC6.8F44013F@vl.videotron.ca>    PRSTSC::DTL wrote:1 > Auditable event:          Network login failure 3 > Event time:               13-APR-2003 22:46:02.12 $ > PID:                      00000478+ > Process name:             TCPIP$FTPC00017 % > Username:                 anonymous , > Remote nodename:          f16v-1-57.d1.clu. > Remote node id:           3569600569 (50.57)( > Remote username:          FTP_D4C3C839= > Status:                   %LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user  > . > Could it come from a DECnet network? (50.57)   $ A = 3569600569 $ show symbol a 6   A = -725366727   Hex = D4C3C839  Octal = 32460744071  9 It is coming from IP address D4 C3 C8 39 = 212.195.200.57    $ whois 212.195.200.57A ----Server: whois.arin.net [AMERICAS] redirects to whois.ripe.net @ ----Server:  whois.ripe.net [EUROPE] response for 212.195.200.57  % This is the RIPE Whois server.! % The objects are in RPSL format.  % ! % Rights restricted by copyright. @ % See http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/copyright.html  , inetnum:      212.195.64.0 - 212.195.255.255! netname:      T-ONLINEFRANCE-ADSL & descr:        Pools for ADSL customers country:      FR admin-c:      NOCT1-RIPE tech-c:       NOCT1-RIPE status:       ASSIGNED PA  notify:       ripe@t-online.fr mnt-by:       T-ONLINEFRANCE& changed:      vox@t-online.fr 20021015 source:       RIPE   route:        212.195.0.0/16- descr:        T-Online France - Club Internet  origin:       AS5410 notify:       ripe@t-online.fr mnt-by:       T-ONLINEFRANCE& changed:      vox@t-online.fr 20021009 source:       RIPE  6 role:         Network Operation Centre T-ONLINE FRANCE- address:      T-Online France - Club Internet  address:      11 rue de Cambrai  address:      75019 Paris  address:      France phone:        +33 1 55 45 45 00  fax-no:       +33 1 55 45 47 78  e-mail:       ripe@t-online.fr admin-c:      VOX-RIPE tech-c:       VOX-RIPE tech-c:       FNG-RIPE tech-c:       BAX2-RIPE  tech-c:       DA3757-RIPE  tech-c:       OT1274-RIPE  nic-hdl:      NOCT1-RIPE mnt-by:       T-ONLINEFRANCE& changed:      vox@t-online.fr 20020620 source:       RIPE   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:34:00 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>  Subject: Re: DECnet hacker? ' Message-ID: <3E99E5D8.D3602E65@fsi.net>    PRSTSC::DTL wrote: >  > Just got that: > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  13-APR-2003 22:46:02.12  %%%%%%%%%%%) > Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on DTL02 R > Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on DTL02, system id: 102 > 6 1 > Auditable event:          Network login failure 3 > Event time:               13-APR-2003 22:46:02.12 $ > PID:                      00000478+ > Process name:             TCPIP$FTPC00017 % > Username:                 anonymous , > Remote nodename:          f16v-1-57.d1.clu. > Remote node id:           3569600569 (50.57)( > Remote username:          FTP_D4C3C839= > Status:                   %LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user  > . > Could it come from a DECnet network? (50.57)Q > (do not tell me that it means that my default FTP access does not exist, I just 
 > removed it)   1 The remote node id translates to 212.195.200.57.    + DJAS01::DDACHTERA$ mult nslo 212.195.200.57  Server:  LANmodem.djesys.com Address:  192.168.1.1   & Name:    f16v-1-57.d1.club-internet.fr Address:  212.195.200.57   Not sure how it figured 50.57 :   ' DJAS01::DDACHTERA$ a = (50 * 1024) + 57  DJAS01::DDACHTERA$ sh sym a 1   A = 51257   Hex = 0000C839  Octal = 00000144071     DJAS01::DDACHTERA$ a= 3569600569 DJAS01::DDACHTERA$ sh sym a 6   A = -725366727   Hex = D4C3C839  Octal = 32460744071  F Oh - *THAT'S* how it got 50.57 - it ignored the upper two bytes of the	 longword.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 18:38:28 -0400 ' From: Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net>  Subject: Re: DECnet hacker? < Message-ID: <howard-67D9AF.18382813042003@enews.newsguy.com>  4 In article <3e99cd75$0$28749$626a54ce@news.free.fr>,3  PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> wrote:    > Just got that: > : > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  13-APR-2003 22:46:02.12  %%%%%%%%%%%) > Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on DTL02 O > Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on DTL02, system id:   > 102  > 6 1 > Auditable event:          Network login failure 3 > Event time:               13-APR-2003 22:46:02.12 $ > PID:                      00000478+ > Process name:             TCPIP$FTPC00017 % > Username:                 anonymous , > Remote nodename:          f16v-1-57.d1.clu. > Remote node id:           3569600569 (50.57)( > Remote username:          FTP_D4C3C839= > Status:                   %LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user  > . > Could it come from a DECnet network? (50.57)M > (do not tell me that it means that my default FTP access does not exist, I   > just  
 > removed it)   H It complained about a TCPIP$FTP process, and you're asking if it's from  DECnet?    --  4 Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 18:39:26 -0400 ' From: Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net>  Subject: Re: DECnet hacker? < Message-ID: <howard-D80448.18392613042003@enews.newsguy.com>  ' In article <3E99E5D8.D3602E65@fsi.net>, 3  "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote:   H > Oh - *THAT'S* how it got 50.57 - it ignored the upper two bytes of the > longword.   = You've got to admit that makes a certain amount of sense. :-)    --  4 Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:09:05 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> Subject: Re: DECnet hacker? / Message-ID: <3E99EE00.711C594A@vl.videotron.ca>   - > > Process name:             TCPIP$FTPC00017 ' > > Username:                 anonymous . > > Remote nodename:          f16v-1-57.d1.clu0 > > Remote node id:           3569600569 (50.57)* > > Remote username:          FTP_D4C3C839  N I think that this opcom message really needs to be spruced up. I'd like to seeK real dotted decimal TCPIP node names instead of a single integer we have to + break up to find out what the real address.   V Also, it would be interesting to see the "password" in the case of anonymous attempts.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:15:30 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>  Subject: Re: DECnet hacker? ' Message-ID: <3E99FDA2.F5754D9E@fsi.net>    JF Mezei wrote:  > / > > > Process name:             TCPIP$FTPC00017 ) > > > Username:                 anonymous 0 > > > Remote nodename:          f16v-1-57.d1.clu2 > > > Remote node id:           3569600569 (50.57), > > > Remote username:          FTP_D4C3C839 > P > I think that this opcom message really needs to be spruced up. I'd like to seeM > real dotted decimal TCPIP node names instead of a single integer we have to - > break up to find out what the real address.    Agreed.   X > Also, it would be interesting to see the "password" in the case of anonymous attempts.   Whole-heartedly agreed!    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:16:24 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>  Subject: Re: DECnet hacker? % Message-ID: <3E99FDD8.8829FB@fsi.net>    Howard S Shubs wrote:  > 6 > In article <3e99cd75$0$28749$626a54ce@news.free.fr>,5 >  PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> wrote:  >  > > Just got that: > > < > > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  13-APR-2003 22:46:02.12  %%%%%%%%%%%+ > > Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on DTL02 P > > Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on DTL02, system id: > > 102  > > 6 3 > > Auditable event:          Network login failure 5 > > Event time:               13-APR-2003 22:46:02.12 & > > PID:                      00000478- > > Process name:             TCPIP$FTPC00017 ' > > Username:                 anonymous . > > Remote nodename:          f16v-1-57.d1.clu0 > > Remote node id:           3569600569 (50.57)* > > Remote username:          FTP_D4C3C839? > > Status:                   %LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user  > > 0 > > Could it come from a DECnet network? (50.57)N > > (do not tell me that it means that my default FTP access does not exist, I > > just > > removed it)  > I > It complained about a TCPIP$FTP process, and you're asking if it's from 	 > DECnet?   ! Note the misleading message text.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 21:43:08 -0400 ' From: Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net>  Subject: Re: DECnet hacker? < Message-ID: <howard-AB70C6.21430513042003@enews.newsguy.com>  % In article <3E99FDD8.8829FB@fsi.net>, 3  "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote:    > Howard S Shubs wrote:  > > 8 > > In article <3e99cd75$0$28749$626a54ce@news.free.fr>,7 > >  PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> wrote:  > >  > > > Just got that: > > > > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  13-APR-2003 22:46:02.12  %%%%%%%%%%%- > > > Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on DTL02 O > > > Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on DTL02, system  	 > > > id: 	 > > > 102  > > > 6 5 > > > Auditable event:          Network login failure 7 > > > Event time:               13-APR-2003 22:46:02.12 ( > > > PID:                      00000478/ > > > Process name:             TCPIP$FTPC00017 ) > > > Username:                 anonymous 0 > > > Remote nodename:          f16v-1-57.d1.clu2 > > > Remote node id:           3569600569 (50.57), > > > Remote username:          FTP_D4C3C839A > > > Status:                   %LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user  > > > 2 > > > Could it come from a DECnet network? (50.57)O > > > (do not tell me that it means that my default FTP access does not exist,   > > > I 
 > > > just > > > removed it)  > > K > > It complained about a TCPIP$FTP process, and you're asking if it's from  > > DECnet?  > # > Note the misleading message text.    "no such user", you mean?    --  4 Today, on Paper-view: The World Origami Championship   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:50:59 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>  Subject: Re: DECnet hacker? ' Message-ID: <3E9A3023.3EE19116@fsi.net>    Howard S Shubs wrote:  > ' > In article <3E99FDD8.8829FB@fsi.net>, 5 >  "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote:  >  > > Howard S Shubs wrote:  > > > : > > > In article <3e99cd75$0$28749$626a54ce@news.free.fr>,9 > > >  PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> wrote:  > > >  > > > > Just got that: > > > > @ > > > > %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  13-APR-2003 22:46:02.12  %%%%%%%%%%%/ > > > > Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on DTL02 P > > > > Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on DTL02, system > > > > id:  > > > > 102 	 > > > > 6 7 > > > > Auditable event:          Network login failure 9 > > > > Event time:               13-APR-2003 22:46:02.12 * > > > > PID:                      000004781 > > > > Process name:             TCPIP$FTPC00017 + > > > > Username:                 anonymous 2 > > > > Remote nodename:          f16v-1-57.d1.clu4 > > > > Remote node id:           3569600569 (50.57). > > > > Remote username:          FTP_D4C3C839C > > > > Status:                   %LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user  > > > > 4 > > > > Could it come from a DECnet network? (50.57)P > > > > (do not tell me that it means that my default FTP access does not exist,	 > > > > I  > > > > just > > > > removed it)  > > > M > > > It complained about a TCPIP$FTP process, and you're asking if it's from 
 > > > DECnet?  > > % > > Note the misleading message text.  >  > "no such user", you mean?    I mean:   . > Remote node id:           3569600569 (50.57)  D Apparently, the OP read that and ignored the "TCPIP$" in the processF name, just as the source of the message discarded the high-order bytesC of the "Remote node id:" and interpreted the remainder according to  DECnet address rules.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 13:36:05 -0400 3 From: "Homer J. Simpson" <hsimpson@burnsenergy.com> 5 Subject: Re: Email to Geoff.Graves@hp.com is rejected ; Message-ID: <M4hma.25479$Pm3.18313@fe09.atl2.webusenet.com>   I I registered my nephew's new Presario PC with Compaq a few years ago.  He J didn't have an email address at the time, so I just used my personal emailL address with his name.  I now, even years later, get about 30 spam junkmailsC per week with his name in the subject line.  Compaq apparently sold J registration information to spammers - a despicable act IMHO.  Now that HP8 took over, I wonder if that type of thing still happens.  @ It would be nice if HP could make available a list of all CompaqH registration list buyers so that the spammers can be added to the Compaq@ customers' spam filters.  It would be the honorable thing to do.   Homer.    6 "Paul Sture" <p_sture@elias.decus.ch> wrote in message# news:Rehzb$u$tG39@elias.decus.ch... < > In article <00A1E3BF.2F4C4CDC@SendSpamHere.ORG>,   VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG writes: I > > In article <gavd9v83cub4fvcml5reqooh8aggdgi0bl@4ax.com>, Steve Lionel   <Steve.Lionel@intel.com> writes:G > >>On Fri, 11 Apr 2003 16:34:18 GMT, VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:  > >> > >>C > >>> 554 <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: Client host rejected: Access denied  > >>H > >>My guess is that this is HP's ineffective spam filter at work.  ThisJ > >>is the error you get when the HP mail server decides that your sendingD > >>server is on the blocklist it uses.  Very confusing and not veryI > >>helpful, not to mention that whatever it is they're doing doesn't cut A > >>down on spam to any significant degree, if my HP inbox is any  > >>indication.  > > F > > Considering all of the unsolicited crap that I now get from HP, it+ > > is HP who should be on the "blocklist"!  > >  > E > LOL. I'm currently trying, in vain apparently, to get rid of weekly  updates H > from Interex EMEA. Each and every email is full of script, which means none of D > the links work. My replies seem to go down a black hole, including requestsI > to be removed from the mailing list. It is a waste of someone's energy.  >  >  > -- > Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 16:15:12 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>5 Subject: Re: Email to Geoff.Graves@hp.com is rejected . Message-ID: <3E99C54A.F6795A5@vl.videotron.ca>   "Homer J. Simpson" wrote: E > per week with his name in the subject line.  Compaq apparently sold L > registration information to spammers - a despicable act IMHO.  Now that HP: > took over, I wonder if that type of thing still happens.  H Remember that Compaq was a wintel company. And Wintel companies have theR perfect alibi: "someone hacked our windows system and stole the list of customers"   :-) :-) :-) :-) ;-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:36:49 +0200 1 From: PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr>  Subject: Re: Flash player?& Message-ID: <3E99AE41.4010805@Free.fr>   Craig A. Berry wrote: A > In <3e97e4ea$0$28343$626a54ce@news.free.fr> PRSTSC::DTL  wrote:  > : >>Can Flash animation be played on my PWS running MOZ 1.3? >>How? >  > 4 > With the plug-in available from the plug-ins page: > I > <http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/cswb/cswb_plugins.html>   ? Thank you very much. I did not think about that. I got it well. 0 It works nearly perfectly, but it does not loop.   See http://sector7.free.fr/   I It does from my Mac and my Presario, not from my PWS600au VMS 7.3 MOZ 1.3   
 Copy to Mark.  D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:14:34 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> ! Subject: Re: looking for VMS work ' Message-ID: <3E99E14A.9FEA291E@fsi.net>    Bill Todd wrote: > > > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message# > news:3E9849CD.2F778B69@fsi.net...  > > John Smith wrote:  > > > [snip]J > > > They are offering to top-up his pension plan to make it as though heK > > > was never laid-off, and to pay him $150/hr. for the next year ( about G > > > $315k) based on a full-time commitment on his part. Before he was . > > > laid-off, he was making $80k. Go figure. > > I > > Now, dilute that $150/hr with health insurance costs, self-employment J > > taxes and other business related expenses, self and dependent life andI > > dependent health care insurance, etc. and you may be surprised at the  > > results. > L > It's still around $150K annually after *all* taxes and expenses.  Hardly aI > king's ransom, but not exactly shabby either - even for only one year'sOJ > duration (unless he had to pass up a more stable high-paying job to take > it).  H True, but a scan of VMS-related jobs on the major job boards will revealF a good sample of just how much VMS work can be had, and what folks areG willing to pay these days. Outside of Oracle on VMS gigs, it ain't even:E close to $150/hr - you'd not be likely to find much VMS work for evenk $100/hr, Oracle or no.   -- A David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/0   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 03:53:27 GMTE# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>E! Subject: Re: looking for VMS workeH Message-ID: <Xgqma.32353$jVh.28523@news01.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  < "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message! news:3E9849CD.2F778B69@fsi.net...o > John Smith wrote:e
 > > [snip]E > > They are offering to top-up his pension plan to make it as thoughn heC > > was never laid-off, and to pay him $150/hr. for the next year (e aboutrE > > $315k) based on a full-time commitment on his part. Before he wase, > > laid-off, he was making $80k. Go figure. >t7 > Now, dilute that $150/hr with health insurance costs,0 self-employmenteD > taxes and other business related expenses, self and dependent life andtC > dependent health care insurance, etc. and you may be surprised atu then
 > results.    C No, no. That's the hourly rate he'd be making as an *employee* once C again. All benefits are paid by the employer in addition to that!!!(  D They really want him back....actually they really NEED him...they'll= be making zero money on the service agreements with those feweD customers on those pieces of hardware/software but they can't afford< the egg on their faces if they can't support their own gear.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 04:51:43 GMT-+ From: LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM (leslie) ! Subject: Re: looking for VMS work0; Message-ID: <z7rma.66575$vI3.2339630@twister.austin.rr.com>j  - Bill Gunshannon (bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu) wrote:e : 
 : And others:D@ :   Raytheon "information and (systems or technology)"  204 jobs( :   HP  "Information Technology" 44 jobs* :   HP  "Research and Development" 39 jobs+ :   Boeing "Information Technology" 25 jobse/ :   Boeing "Computing Delivery Systems" 18 jobse :   ? Many companies doing work for the Department of Defense require @ a security clearance. The second page of this three-page article goes into more detail:  ;    http://usmilitary.about.com/library/weekly/aa120901a.htmc    Security Clearance SecretsI  ;    http://usmilitary.about.com/library/weekly/aa120901b.htm     Security Clearance Secretso  @   "What About these Companies that Advertise to Hire People With    Clearances?  D    If you already have a valid security clearance, that's a valuableA    commodity for government contractors whose employees require a E    security clearance. Processing security clearances cost money, anduH    requires time (sometimes several months). The average cost to processE    a SECRET clearance can run from several hundred dollars to $3,000, G    depending upon individual factors. The average cost to process a TOP G    SECRET clearance is between $3,000 and about $15,000, depending upont    individual factors.  H    The government pays the cost of clearances for military personnel andG    civilian government employees. The law requires that contractors payyH    most of the costs of obtaining clearances for their employees. That'sF    why contractors quite often advertise to try and find employees whoE    already hold a valid clearance. It saves them several thousands ofhH    dollars. Additionally, it saves them time, as they don't have to waitI    for months for the new employee to obtain a clearance, and begin to doo    the job they were hired for.n  F    You cannot simply request a clearance for yourself and offer to payF    for it. To obtain a clearance you have to have a job which requiresI    one (either by being in the military, or a government civilian job, or     a contractor job)..."  ;    http://usmilitary.about.com/library/weekly/aa120901c.htma    Security Clearance Secretsg  2 --Jerry Leslie   (my opinions are strictly my own)9   Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for emailp   ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 19:03:42 GMTgA From: "Colin Butcher" <colin_DOT.butcher_AT@xdelta_DOT.co_DOT.uk>n! Subject: Re: Memory for Alpha 800 ? Message-ID: <iwima.20933$j34.155307104@news-text.cableinet.net>s  @ I've found the "memory finder" at www.orcalogic.co.uk useful for@ information. They're also quick to deliver (at least in the UK).   -- Hope this helps. Cheers, Colin. ' (colinDOT.butcherAT@xdeltaDOT.coDOT.uk)g   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 18:06:09 -05003& From: "Dave Gudewicz" <k9jdk@arrl.net>! Subject: Re: Memory for Alpha 800c/ Message-ID: <v9jrb56es5ot5d@corp.supernews.com>i  J Thanks Colin.  I'm in Chicagoland, but wouldn't mind a trip over the pond.5 Doubt if #boss or #2 wife would say "sure, go ahead."w   Dave...   L "Colin Butcher" <colin_DOT.butcher_AT@xdelta_DOT.co_DOT.uk> wrote in message9 news:iwima.20933$j34.155307104@news-text.cableinet.net...nB > I've found the "memory finder" at www.orcalogic.co.uk useful forB > information. They're also quick to deliver (at least in the UK). >w > --! > Hope this helps. Cheers, Colin.p) > (colinDOT.butcherAT@xdeltaDOT.coDOT.uk)n >  >l   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 05:16:47 GMTr% From: "Neal Cline" <ngc@socal.rr.com>J' Subject: Re: Memory interchangability ?f; Message-ID: <3vrma.255609$9G.27866965@twister.socal.rr.com>m  I Yep.   Just did it.  72 pin Parity SIMMs in pairs work in either machine.   . "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message3 news:CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKENKGPAA.tom@kednos.com...o4 > Before i go through the effort does anyone know if> > memory modules on Alphastation 200s are interchangeable with > DEC3000 300LX? >h > ---e( > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.< > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A > Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 4/1/2003- >-   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 17:10:24 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>e0 Subject: Re: Need to buy 8 x VAX 4000 or similar' Message-ID: <3E99E050.ED939C81@fsi.net>    Bill Gunshannon wrote: > - > In article <b7asc3$ipb$1@bob.news.rcn.net>, < >         "Rob L Lyons" <rob.lyons@resilientsys.com> writes:Q > >> > > I could buy a bunch of Vaxes for that, with licences. They would be moreu@ > >> > > reliable than a new W2K box . Seems to be a bad option. > >> >L > >> > Actually, W2k can be a very reliable platform.  We recommend that allF > >> > unnecessary services (which are most of them) be disabled.  TheD > >> > system must be dedicated to CHARON-VAX, and run nothing else. > >>G > >> I still don't understand why this emulator is running on a Winwoes K > >> platform (letting aside the Alpha version) and not based on a reliablef > >> real-time OS. > >:L > > As long as the price of an Alpha is many times the price of a comparableG > > Intel box (comparable being CPU speed, memory size, I/O bandwidth),jK > > we will still see Windows systems.  Maybe when Itanium is available fora- > > every OS, then a new truth will be known.r > >>J > > If you would rather use Linux, there are custom versions of Charon-VAX > > that may fit your need.g > >aO > > Although Stan tends to be more vocal, there are a few others of us that canpN > > help with a Charon solution.  And with HP raising VAX service prices, 2003/ > > and 2004 may be a good year for Charon-VAX.d > >a > H > Or maybe Bob needs to consider a commercial version of SIMH as a means! > to bolster his retirement.  :-)c  ? I would say that anyone who can comprehend the source code is a/3 candidate for providing commercial support of SIMH.d  G The "fly in the ointment" would be getting HP/Q to bless SIMH as it has F Charon-VAX. That could represent a significant expense as the start-up  cost of such a line of business.  F ...and the almost guranteed objection the Charon-VAX folks would raiseC to granting such blessing to freeware while they are still chargingh buku-bux for Charon-VAX.  H As to the cost of Alpha vs. Intel machines, by the time you license bothG Charon-VAX and VMS on such a platform, you're easily back up into Alpha B pricing territory. If the underlying o.s. is W2K, add more bux; if, Linux, add more bux, also - but not as much.  A I'd still like to see someone who can (not me, sorry to say) do a H SIMH-like thing that needs no underlying o.s. Maybe the Charon-VAX folks8 could consider that their defense against SIMH and such.   -- a David J. Dachterae dba DJE Systemsg http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/t   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:18:40 -0400o* From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <stan@stanq.com>0 Subject: Re: Need to buy 8 x VAX 4000 or similar, Message-ID: <3E99E240.6984.3E6909@localhost>  H > Does an emulated VAX running on a licensed VMS system on an Alpha needA > an OpenVMS-VAX base license? (I.e., twice license the expense?)e > @ > ...or is that included in/by the underlying OpenVMS-Alpha base
 > license?  A Someone who already has a VAX, and is migrating to CHARON-VAX on  C Alpha, can transfer all their VAX licenses to CHARON-VAX for $1000.:  / So, it's not twice the expense.  Far from it...u  
 --Stan Quaylen Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------C Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363  Fax: +1 614 868-1671 1 8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147 = Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com       http://www.stanq.comi   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:46:26 -0500s1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> 0 Subject: Re: Need to buy 8 x VAX 4000 or similar' Message-ID: <3E9A2F12.91DD6F7F@fsi.net>    "Stanley F. Quayle" wrote: > J > > Does an emulated VAX running on a licensed VMS system on an Alpha needC > > an OpenVMS-VAX base license? (I.e., twice license the expense?)e > >.B > > ...or is that included in/by the underlying OpenVMS-Alpha base > > license? > B > Someone who already has a VAX, and is migrating to CHARON-VAX onE > Alpha, can transfer all their VAX licenses to CHARON-VAX for $1000.r > 1 > So, it's not twice the expense.  Far from it...   D ...and the OpenVMS-Alpha base license is a freebie? I doubt it. It'sC part of the Alpha machine's price, even if it's not broken out as aa separate line item.m  / Remember: three licenses are required, minimum:    1. OpenVMS-Alpha bases
 2. Charon-VAX5 3. OpenVMS-VAX base   A ..., then add the VAX LP's, plus whatever else is required in thef1 OpenVMS-Alpha environment so Charon-VAX can run. v  @ So, that's (VMS)+(Charon-VAX)+(LP), where VMS = (OpenVMS-ALPHA +E OpenVMS-VAX), or two VMS licenses, not just one; therefore, twice the  expense.  F Remember also that the VMS base license stays with the machine (VAX or Alpha) - it does not transfer.   -- 3 David J. Dachterao dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/a   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:09:43 -0700p+ From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com>T0 Subject: Re: Need to buy 8 x VAX 4000 or similar' Message-ID: <3E9A4297.8050809@MMaz.com>o   David J. Dachtera wrote:   >"Stanley F. Quayle" wrote:  >  > >AI >>>Does an emulated VAX running on a licensed VMS system on an Alpha needrB >>>an OpenVMS-VAX base license? (I.e., twice license the expense?) >>>8A >>>...or is that included in/by the underlying OpenVMS-Alpha basek >>>license?p	 >>>        >>>kB >>Someone who already has a VAX, and is migrating to CHARON-VAX onE >>Alpha, can transfer all their VAX licenses to CHARON-VAX for $1000.y >> >>     >>G >Remember also that the VMS base license stays with the machine (VAX or0 >Alpha) - it does not transfer.a >  n >oH Not true, for the $1000 you can transfer VMS and for another $1000, you < can transfer ALL layered products, compliments of Compaq/HP.   Barry    --    @ Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO   A E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028o   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 14:52:27 -0400e0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>N Subject: Re: Personal Firewalls - was Email to Geoff.Graves@hp.com is rejected/ Message-ID: <3E99B1EB.2AE003AE@vl.videotron.ca>    Paul Sture wrote: I > pretty scathing about "personal firewalls" such as BlackIce Defender ore > ZoneAlarm. Here's the link:r) > http://www.samspade.org/d/persfire.htmlk4 > and '"Personal Firewalls" are mostly snake-oil' at* > http://www.samspade.org/d/firewalls.html    J Is there anyone who really beleived that a piece of windows software could4 ever protect its own instance of a windows machine ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 23:25:58 -0400p0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca># Subject: Question about acronym IPFC/ Message-ID: <3E9A2A43.148C498A@vl.videotron.ca>2  K Reading some patch release notes, I noticed on path applicable to Alpha ande IPF. It made me think:  I What exactly does IPF really mean ? From what I had herad, it means Intelw Processor Facility.   M Is this specifically IA64 and only IA64 ? Reading the term, it could mean anyi
 Intel CPU.  G If it means IA64 only, is this an indication that at the time "IPF" washN coined, Intel thought that IA64 would become industry standard and replace the6 8086  and become Intel's sole processor architecture ?  N Now that IA64 won't become Intel's sole processor for a long long time, is the use of "IPF" still correct ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:39:31 -0700a# From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>t' Subject: RE: Question about acronym IPFi9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIOEOIGPAA.tom@kednos.com>q  8 Itanium Processor Family.  Pretty small family, however.     >-----Original Message-----f8 >From: JF Mezei [mailto:jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca]% >Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2003 8:26 PM- >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com$ >Subject: Question about acronym IPF >r > L >Reading some patch release notes, I noticed on path applicable to Alpha and >IPF. It made me think:2 >4J >What exactly does IPF really mean ? From what I had herad, it means Intel >Processor Facility. >g? >Is this specifically IA64 and only IA64 ? Reading the term, it  >could mean anyE >Intel CPU.L > H >If it means IA64 only, is this an indication that at the time "IPF" wasC >coined, Intel thought that IA64 would become industry standard and  >replace the7 >8086  and become Intel's sole processor architecture ?  > B >Now that IA64 won't become Intel's sole processor for a long long
 >time, is the  >use of "IPF" still correct ?e >e >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).r@ >Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 4/1/2003 >e --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).? Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 4/1/2003l   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 02:12:31 GMT1/ From: brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks)i: Subject: Re: Questions on MSPC serving FC SAN disks to VAX- Message-ID: <2vJWeL0VswCo@cuebid.zko.dec.com>    norm.raphael@metso.com writes: > 4 > Multi-Path is OFF.  Does that effect that command?  G No.  $ SET PREFERRED_PATH is related to MSCP-served paths.  The similaroO command that affects multipath devices is $ SET DEVICE/PATH = <pathname>/SWITCH9  E Now, for V7.3-1 and beyond, where multipath failover to a served pathoE is supported, you can use $SET PREFERRED_PATH to affect the MSCP pathsD in a multipath set, but $ SET PREFERRED_PATH is only for MSCP-served devices.  K An aside:  Did you really turn multipath off (MPDEV_ENABLE = 0), or did youe@ mean that MPDEV_REMOTE = 0 (which is required for any pre-V7.3-1	 release).o   -- .  M Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- I/O Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.dec.com    ------------------------------    Date: 13 Apr 2003 14:58:46 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)dI Subject: Re: Spam from HP (was: Email to Geoff.Graves@hp.com is rejected) 3 Message-ID: <TLASytfR57cd@eisner.encompasserve.org>L  q In article <M4hma.25479$Pm3.18313@fe09.atl2.webusenet.com>, "Homer J. Simpson" <hsimpson@burnsenergy.com> writes: K > I registered my nephew's new Presario PC with Compaq a few years ago.  HeiL > didn't have an email address at the time, so I just used my personal emailN > address with his name.  I now, even years later, get about 30 spam junkmailsE > per week with his name in the subject line.  Compaq apparently sold L > registration information to spammers - a despicable act IMHO.  Now that HP: > took over, I wonder if that type of thing still happens.  H For providing email addresses to those whose trustworthiness is unknown, I recommend:   	http://sneakemail.com/a   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Apr 2003 21:24:05 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>I Subject: Re: Spam from HP (was: Email to Geoff.Graves@hp.com is rejected) 5 Message-ID: <20030413212405.9633.qmail@gacracker.org>   > On 13 Apr 2003, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) wrote:  I >For providing email addresses to those whose trustworthiness is unknown,0
 >I recommend:  >v >	http://sneakemail.com/  < Or as a significantly better alternative to hotmail, there's https://www.hushmail.com.R     Doc. -- :: Time and money, the psychotropics of the business world...K ~ VAXman                                             https://vmsbox.cjb.netu   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 01:05:20 -040020 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>( Subject: TCPIP 5.3-182 (vax) IMAP buglet. Message-ID: <3E9A4185.D1AF496@vl.videotron.ca>  $ I just installed  5.3 182-4 patches.  K The same bug as in the vanilla 5.3 exists, and the install procedures (that M darned PCSI thing) zapped my modified TCPIP$IMAP_STARTUP.COM and put in a newe, one without preserving the previous version.  4 Here is a repeat of the mesage I had posted earlier:  J I know that IMAP is not supported on VAX VMS. But it is there on TCPIP 5.3  4 There is however a problem in its startup procedure.  K You have to add lines in TCPIP$IMAP_STARTUP.COM (in sys$manager) to installD: SYS$LIBRARY:CMA$RTL.EXE and SYS$LIBRARY:CMA$OPEN_RTL.EXE  E (/open/header/shared) otherwise the IMAP server image fails to start.   L Interestingly, once all the software has been started, the IMA server can beI restarted succesfully because by that time, it is likely someone else has  installed CMA stuff.   ------------------------------    Date: 13 Apr 2003 21:20:27 -0000= From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> : Subject: Re: VMS Advertising & Marketing - a status report5 Message-ID: <20030413212027.9555.qmail@gacracker.org>   9 On Sun, 13 Apr 2003, "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> wrote: A >"Doc.Cypher" <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote:-  : >> Drop me a line John, I might have some more ammunition.  ) >What's a good address to contact you at?j   Hidden in my headers...e  J Author-Supplied-Address: doc_cypher <AT> redneck <DOT> gacracker <DOT> org       Doc. -- 5: Time and money, the psychotropics of the business world...K ~ VAXman                                             https://vmsbox.cjb.net:   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 02:00:06 GMTy/ From: brooks@cuebid.zko.dec.nospam (Rob Brooks)nP Subject: Re: VMS Engineering quality standards, was: Re: Problem with VMS731_LAN- Message-ID: <dgnJ6wubLw9$@cuebid.zko.dec.com>2  0 Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> writes:  G > I think there is no staff enough to study OpenVMS Internals nowadays.nE > A lot of people retiring from VMS Development... and the young guys ' > or are MS or are Open"Linux"Source ! e  I Absolutely not true.  While it is true that the "young guys" have not had,E years of VMS experience, they have shown the ability and desire to dodJ things "the right way".  A couple of those "young guys" are key members ofF the IPF porting effort, and we're quite glad that they're on our side!   --    M Rob Brooks    VMS Engineering -- I/O Exec Group     brooks!cuebid.zko.dec.comh   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 00:54:53 GMT:# From: "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com>o Subject: What is a VMS Cluster= Message-ID: <xFnma.144658$j8.3170525@twister.tampabay.rr.com>.  L Of course, I know what a VMS Cluster is.  I have been working with VMS sinceK 1981 and with Clusters since 1986.  I guess my problem is that I understandeJ them so well that it is difficult for me to explain to PHMs what they are,= and what their advantage are over other "so-called" clusters.   K Can you guys help me come up with a simple definition of what a VMS Cluster1, is, and why it is better than the imposters?   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 20:55:00 -050031 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>a" Subject: Re: What is a VMS Cluster' Message-ID: <3E9A14F4.E9B35BDE@fsi.net>    "John N." wrote: > N > Of course, I know what a VMS Cluster is.  I have been working with VMS sinceM > 1981 and with Clusters since 1986.  I guess my problem is that I understandeL > them so well that it is difficult for me to explain to PHMs what they are,? > and what their advantage are over other "so-called" clusters.h > M > Can you guys help me come up with a simple definition of what a VMS Cluster . > is, and why it is better than the imposters?   *** CAN OF WORMS WARNING ***  G Probably the easiest way to start is draw a SAN (if the PHMs grok SAN),jG then explain how all (2 or more) nodes of a cluster can access the sameM6 storage / files / etc. with the assistance of the DLM.  A I've been billing CI as the "grand-daddy of the SAN", drawing thenH star-topology CI out, then drawing parallels between that and a SAN, andE it seems to help get borg drones thinking in the right direction. ThenE whole DLM thing is where I usually lose them, it's so far beyond whate they can comprehend.  G Perhaps if a TCP/IP parallel to FAL had evolved along the way the basici@ concepts wouldn't be so foreign to them. Maybe trying to compareF node::dev:[dir]filename.ext to http://node/path/file could bridge thatH gap, but some of 'em may take off in the wrong direction, just like some folks reading this just did.  A If the PHMs don't grok SAN, then its a whole different ball game.    -- - David J. Dachtera- dba DJE Systems, http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2003 22:51:21 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>" Subject: Re: What is a VMS Cluster/ Message-ID: <3E9A2228.D6E625E7@vl.videotron.ca>a   "John N." wrote:M > Can you guys help me come up with a simple definition of what a VMS Cluster$. > is, and why it is better than the imposters?  - -variety of interconnects, including ethernet:  , -load balancing and fallback of batch queues  M -ability to make each node do work (instead of having nodes just wait in case  primary node fails)   E -distributed locks manager, ICC which provide more efficeint and morer> versatiule/robust communications between nodes in the cluster.   -better management tools.n  L -software based volume shadowing and better quorum handling provide for muchM greater robustness and data integrity when you consider all sorts of possibleo failure scenarios.    J You can take a look at the technical journal, its first version had a good= article from Keith Parris on disaster tolerance and clusters.m   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2003 01:25:00 -0400t0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>! Subject: XDM problems (TCPIP 5.3) / Message-ID: <3E9A4620.61D1D3EE@vl.videotron.ca>   N OK, I have a MAC wunning MI/X . I have been trying to get the XDM to work, but to no avail.  7 VAX VMS 7.2, TCPIP 5.3 eco 2 (from $TCPIP SHOW VERSION)a  ' In the XACCESS.TXT I have lines such as    10.0.0.12 bike.chocolate.com$ mac.chocolate.com bike.chocolate.com *c    (mac.chocolate.com is 10.0.0.12)( (and I have tried various permutations).  L If I set the MAC MI/X to "QUERY" mode, it fails immediatly (log below). If IL set it to broadcast, it eventually fails on a number of retransmits (after aI few minutes) but nothing appears on the TCPIP$XDM_RUN.LOG for broadcasts.2  = Here is the log from a single query (with TCPIP$XDM_DEBUG andT1 TCPIP$XDM_DEBUF_W set to 1) (questions below log)a  ' $ RUN /NODEBUG SYS$SYSTEM:TCPIP$XDM.EXEd) [22000085 1050296944] creating socket 177v. [22000085 1050296945] Created chooser socket 4& [22000085 1050296947] WaitForSomethingA [22000085 1050296965] select returns 1.  Rescan: 0  ChildReady: 0e* [22000085 1050296965] ProcessRequestSocket# [22000085 1050296965] header: 1 2 1 % [22000085 1050296965] TCPIP_VMS_QUERYc% [22000085 1050296965] Query respond 19: [22000085 1050296965] ConvertAddr returning 0 for family 2B [22000085 1050296965] all_query_respond: conntype=0, addr=a, len=45 [22000085 1050296965] Send willing  Willing to manage0& [22000085 1050296965] WaitForSomethingA [22000085 1050296966] select returns 1.  Rescan: 0  ChildReady: 0t* [22000085 1050296966] ProcessRequestSocket$ [22000085 1050296966] header: 1 7 34 [22000085 1050296966] REQUESTn( [22000085 1050296966] Request respond 34. [22000085 1050296966] Decline No valid address& [22000085 1050296966] WaitForSomething    K Can anyone tell me what the "header 1 2 1" and "header 1 7 34" and "Request0 respond 34" mean ?  & On the MAC, I get the following error:  = Warning: XDMCP fatal error: Session declined No valid address   L Has anyone got a clue to set me in the right direction ?  (I was hoping that: the 182-4 patchers would fix this, alas, it didn't change.  G Note that if I add the mac to the XSERVER.TXT, it does pop up the loginsK dialogue when XDM starts, but that basically bypasses the XDM protocol. I'd N like to set it up to work whenevr the Xserver on my lan starts so it can get a
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