1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 18 Apr 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 214       Contents:5 Re: attention Sue: alert your task force immediately!  Re: Average Uptimes by OS  Re: Average Uptimes by OS  CHARON-VAX Pricing9 RE: DCL question (of the day)- null byte in string symbol 9 RE: DCL question (of the day)- null byte in string symbol 9 RE: DCL question (of the day)- null byte in string symbol  Re: DECnet hacker? flush arp table  Re: flush arp table : Re: How to access DB2 on an AS/400 from Oracle on OpenVMS?5 HP: IT resource center forums: Why is VMS not listed.   Re: Interesting VMS ad in Google# Re: iSCSI Devices for OpenVMS 7.3-1 4 No evasive action on Network incoming FTP task, why?8 Re: No evasive action on Network incoming FTP task, why?8 Re: No evasive action on Network incoming FTP task, why?8 Re: No evasive action on Network incoming FTP task, why?8 Re: No evasive action on Network incoming FTP task, why?* Nostradamus - The future of IBM, Sun, Dell% ODS5 has been added to the test drive - Re: Problem with formfeed on the Genicom 4400  Problem with Proxies Re: Problem with Proxies! Re: system tools cd mount problem * Re: tcpip 5.3-1 socket inactivity timeout?* Re: tcpip 5.3-1 socket inactivity timeout?* Re: tcpip 5.3-1 socket inactivity timeout?* Re: tcpip 5.3-1 socket inactivity timeout?  Re: VAX C++ 5.6 install question Re: VAX/Alpha VMS differences  Re: VAX/Alpha VMS differences A Re: [VMS-SIG] LK46W Keyboard Driver for Win2K so I can access VMS   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 08:59:18 -0400 ' From: "Wayne W. Scott" <wscott@nac.net> > Subject: Re: attention Sue: alert your task force immediately!& Message-ID: <3E9FF6A6.6030103@nac.net>  S At a place where I used to work, they started using the term "Heritage" instead of  V "legacy."  I think it sounds better; it reminds me of, "we are proud of our heritage."   Wayne      Bart Zorn wrote:> > To all who are concerned about the use of the word "legacy": > H > In the Conference Program Committee we have kind of agreed to disagree
 > about this.  > G > The word "legacy" is used without any negative intention and based on B > what the word actually means in the Industry: older systems with > limited industry support.  > C > In the brochure we do not mean to denote anything from Digital as H > legacy, in the sense of obsolete. On the contrary: we encourage anyoneF > who has an interest in any of the older Digital technologies to comeH > to Amsterdam and talk about those technologies! The term has been used7 > to emphasize that we consider these topics important.  > F > That being said, I believe that we better avoid using this word nextF > year. Next year somebody might start using it for the HP 3000 family; > of systems and who knows what trouble that might give us!  > & > I hope to meet you all in Amsterdam! > C > Would it be a good idea to organize a BOF session for comp.os.vms . > denizens? Just to meet each other in person? >  > Kind regards,  >  > Bart Zorn  >  > l > Bart.Zorn@xs4all.nl (Bart Zorn) wrote in message news:<a98cd882.0304100719.10dd98fa@posting.google.com>... > D >>I feel VERY uncomfortable about this. I am a member of the programC >>committee for this conference and I have not been able to prevent E >>this. In fact, the word "legacy" is not in the draft version that I B >>have right here on my desk. It has been put in at a later stage. >>F >>I feel much the same way as Phillip expresses in his article. I willH >>discuss this in the committe, but the harm has been done. If something4 >>comes out of that discussion, I will let you know. >>
 >>Regards, >> >>Bart Zorn  >>~ >>Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> wrote in message news:<01KUK6TWW7GIA9NUCE@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>... >>G >>>I received a brochure with the programme, registration form etc for  1 >>>Interex in Amsterdam.  On page 2 one can read:  >>> E >>>   ...the...Conference...provides the ideal platform for users of  G >>>   pre-merger HP and Compaq products and services (including legacy   >>>   DIGITAL systems)...  >>>  >> >  >     [  Snip  ]   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Apr 2003 11:49:24 GMT, From: bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)" Subject: Re: Average Uptimes by OS5 Message-ID: <b7ooo3$30d9i$1@ID-135708.news.dfncis.de>   ? In article <i2Jna.529631$sf5.842635@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>, 7 	brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton) writes: c > In article <ojeH+fRkgp2b@eisner.encompasserve.org>, kuhrt@encompasserve.org (Marty Kuhrt) writes:  > <snip>A >>More VMS folks should get in on this (unless you system is like ? >>my desktop at home and is powered up and shutdown every day). @ >>This site is by no means an accurate representation of uptimesC >>across the industry, but since when does factual accuracy matter? D >>(digs at AH, specifically, and any Micro$lop product, in general,  >>purely intentional)  :^) > P > I just joined this evening, and my uptime did not significantly affect the VMSE > average (something over 69 days - my machine has 69 days, as well).  >   B Still living ina fantasy world where VMS is the only stable system in the universe!   ------- = ULTRIX V4.5 (Rev. 47) System #1: Sat Jan  1 01:26:25 EST 2000  UWS V4.5 (Rev. 6)    # uptimeF   7:46am  up 201 days, 14:24,  1 user,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00 -------   ? And that is hardly a modern Unix, all of which are more stable.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 10:34:36 -0700 ( From: Alan Frisbie <Abuse@NelsonUSA.com>" Subject: Re: Average Uptimes by OS, Message-ID: <3EA0372C.8070000@NelsonUSA.com>   Marty Kuhrt wrote:@ > For an interesting look at average uptimes by OS check out...  > * > http://uptimes.wonko.com/stats.php?op=os > = > With the exception of one AIX machine, OpenVMSCluster leads > > the pack with over 180+ days.  Sun clocks in at 39 days and > > Windows averages about 3 days.  Plain old OpenVMS ranks 3rd.  > I don't know what happened, but they stopped recording updates> from my machine (FULL / NelsonNameplate) on 04/14/2003.    The@ system is still up, so I killed the Uptime job and restarted it.> We'll see if that fixes the problem and puts me back up in theA top 30 (494 days).     Aaaah, I see that it worked.  Position 18!   > This is a well-used system.   It supports about 45 users, plus= monitors another 48 data collection terminals in the factory. > The last time it went down was when I upgraded from VMS 6.2 to
 VMS 7.2-1.  > The time before that was in 1999 when a drunk driver took down; the 33KV power line that feeds our building, and the outage # outlasted the batteries in the UPS.   ; I would like to upgrade to VMS 7.3-latest, but I don't want + to loose my ranking in the Uptimes Project.    Alan   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 13:32:04 -0400 * From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <stan@stanq.com> Subject: CHARON-VAX Pricing . Message-ID: <3E9FFE54.18227.324B5AC@localhost>  F There doesn't seem to be an upside in an endless discussion of CHARON-B VAX pricing.  If you're interested in a proposal for a migration, < please email me or see http://www.stanq.com/charon-vax.html.   Until later...  
 --Stan Quayle  Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------C Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363  Fax: +1 614 868-1671 1 8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147 = Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com       http://www.stanq.com    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Apr 2003 07:02:10 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.orgB Subject: RE: DCL question (of the day)- null byte in string symbol3 Message-ID: <qvT7GSekywH9@eisner.encompasserve.org>   _ In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIGEEMHAAA.tom@kednos.com>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:  >  >  >>-----Original Message-----B >>From: briggs@encompasserve.org [mailto:briggs@encompasserve.org]) >>Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:17 AM  >>To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com D >>Subject: RE: DCL question (of the day)- null byte in string symbol >> >>@ >>In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKEEIHAAA.tom@kednos.com>, "Tom" >>Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:M >>> That doesn't make sense.  Why would parsing continue after it encountered  >>> a "!"  ? >>G >>Because parsing is not a monolithic process.  You do apostrophe-based E >>substitution first because the result of an apostrophe substitution E >>could contain an exclamation point that would mark the remainder of  >>the command as a comment.  > D > Well, I don't know how they did it, but I had assumed that once an > apostrophe were N > detected, then "!" would have had a different significance until the closingD > apostrophe were detected.  At least that his I would have done it.   I've always taken the model as:   4 	Macro substitute without regard for comment markers- 	Parse, including the elimination of comments  	Execute  I > In your example below, when parsing the second line, q has already been  > subsitutedL > so on the scan you know you need to look for a double quote so the ! would > not C > be treated  as a comment initiator, unless the parsing is ad hoc.   E Ahh.  I misunderstood your proposed scheme.  I thought you were going E to pre-scan for exclamation points and then present a shortened input = string to the macro engine.  Instead, it appears that you are B planning to scan for exclamation points at the same time as singleD quotes and double quotes.  So you'd catch exclamation points createdA during the substitution process as part of the subsequent rescan. F And you'd handle double quotes created during the substitution process in the same way.  6 Yes, it could have been done that way.  But it wasn't.   	John Briggs   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 06:40:39 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> B Subject: RE: DCL question (of the day)- null byte in string symbol9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIIEFPHAAA.tom@kednos.com>    >-----Original Message----- A >From: briggs@encompasserve.org [mailto:briggs@encompasserve.org] % >Sent: Friday, April 18, 2003 5:02 AM  >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComC >Subject: RE: DCL question (of the day)- null byte in string symbol  >  > ? >In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIGEEMHAAA.tom@kednos.com>, "Tom ! >Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes:  >> >> >>>-----Original Message----- C >>>From: briggs@encompasserve.org [mailto:briggs@encompasserve.org] * >>>Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2003 10:17 AM >>>To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComE >>>Subject: RE: DCL question (of the day)- null byte in string symbol  >>>  >>> A >>>In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKEEIHAAA.tom@kednos.com>, "Tom # >>>Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes: B >>>> That doesn't make sense.  Why would parsing continue after it >encountered
 >>>> a "!"  ?  >>> H >>>Because parsing is not a monolithic process.  You do apostrophe-basedF >>>substitution first because the result of an apostrophe substitutionF >>>could contain an exclamation point that would mark the remainder of >>>the command as a comment. >>E >> Well, I don't know how they did it, but I had assumed that once an  >> apostrophe wereC >> detected, then "!" would have had a different significance until  >the closingE >> apostrophe were detected.  At least that his I would have done it.  >   >I've always taken the model as: > 5 >	Macro substitute without regard for comment markers . >	Parse, including the elimination of comments	 >	Execute  > J >> In your example below, when parsing the second line, q has already been
 >> subsituted A >> so on the scan you know you need to look for a double quote so  >the ! would >> notD >> be treated  as a comment initiator, unless the parsing is ad hoc. > F >Ahh.  I misunderstood your proposed scheme.  I thought you were goingF >to pre-scan for exclamation points and then present a shortened input> >string to the macro engine.  Instead, it appears that you areC >planning to scan for exclamation points at the same time as single E >quotes and double quotes.  So you'd catch exclamation points created B >during the substitution process as part of the subsequent rescan.G >And you'd handle double quotes created during the substitution process  >in the same way.   L John, it wasn't so much a proposed scheme as a faulty assumption on my part,H viz., that it was written as a parser (state machine, for example)  note thisK does not require a rescan, because when encountering the '!' token is is in ) quote state.  Only a single scan required    > 7 >Yes, it could have been done that way.  But it wasn't.  > 
 >	John Briggs  >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). A >Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/10/2003  >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).@ Version: 6.0.471 / Virus Database: 269 - Release Date: 4/10/2003   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Apr 2003 08:56:35 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.orgB Subject: RE: DCL question (of the day)- null byte in string symbol3 Message-ID: <a0Yi8yjYFWhE@eisner.encompasserve.org>   _ In article <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIIEFPHAAA.tom@kednos.com>, "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes: A >From: briggs@encompasserve.org [mailto:briggs@encompasserve.org]  ... G >>Ahh.  I misunderstood your proposed scheme.  I thought you were going G >>to pre-scan for exclamation points and then present a shortened input ? >>string to the macro engine.  Instead, it appears that you are D >>planning to scan for exclamation points at the same time as singleF >>quotes and double quotes.  So you'd catch exclamation points createdC >>during the substitution process as part of the subsequent rescan. H >>And you'd handle double quotes created during the substitution process >>in the same way. > N > John, it wasn't so much a proposed scheme as a faulty assumption on my part,J > viz., that it was written as a parser (state machine, for example)  note > thisM > does not require a rescan, because when encountering the '!' token is is in + > quote state.  Only a single scan required   F Since the result of an apostrophe-based symbol substitution can itselfG contain apostrophes, you need to back up and rescan the expanded result 6 starting at the left hand end of the substituted text.   This process can iterate.    $ a = "'b'"  $ b = "'c'"  $ c = "'d'"  $ d = "xyz.dat"  $ dir 'a   	John Briggs   ------------------------------   Date: 18 Apr 03 08:12:08 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture)  Subject: Re: DECnet hacker? ) Message-ID: <fK$d+zyz$Cjb@elias.decus.ch>   W In article <3E9C1738.8060909@tsoft-inc.com>, David Froble <davef@tsoft-inc.com> writes:  > David J. Dachtera wrote: >  >> David Froble wrote: >>   >>>David J. Dachtera wrote:  >>>  >>>  >>>>JF Mezei wrote:  >>>> >>>>0 >>>>>>>Process name:             TCPIP$FTPC00017* >>>>>>>Username:                 anonymous1 >>>>>>>Remote nodename:          f16v-1-57.d1.clu 3 >>>>>>>Remote node id:           3569600569 (50.57) - >>>>>>>Remote username:          FTP_D4C3C839  >>>>>>>  >>>>>>> S >>>>>I think that this opcom message really needs to be spruced up. I'd like to see P >>>>>real dotted decimal TCPIP node names instead of a single integer we have to0 >>>>>break up to find out what the real address. >>>>>  >>>>>  >>>>Agreed.  >>>> >>>> >>>>[ >>>>>Also, it would be interesting to see the "password" in the case of anonymous attempts.  >>>>>  >>>>>  >>>>Whole-heartedly agreed!  >>>>L >>>Think about that idea.  One thing about VMS, it never shows passwords, to >>>anyone.   >>>  >>  > >> 1. LOGFAILs as logged to OPCOM include the failed password. >>  & >> 2. NCP under certain circumstances. >  > R > Ok, got me there.  I'm a software person, not operations, and I just don't look 
 > at such. > L > However, I could still present an argument that even such as you describe R > shouldn't happen.  SYSUAF.DAT is secured, but still passwords are not readable. L >   Why should even failed passwords be available anywhere?  Just a concept. >   H But what do you do in the case of reporting a failed login when the userJ (could be a cracker's script) gets the username/password out of sync? I amE sure that I am not the only one who has occasionally managed to enter # my password at the username prompt.      --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 15:00:12 +0200 6 From: Serge ZANGHERI <szangheri@grenoble.sema.slb.com> Subject: flush arp table5 Message-ID: <3E9FF6DC.2D579F8A@grenoble.sema.slb.com>    Hi, ) I want to flush the arp table in UCX 2.0.  any ideas ?  Thanx  Serge    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 17:30:17 +0000 (UTC) , From: lewis@PROBE.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis) Subject: Re: flush arp table. Message-ID: <b7pcn9$riu$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   Serge ZANGHERI <szangheri@grenoble.sema.slb.com> writes in article <3E9FF6DC.2D579F8A@grenoble.sema.slb.com> dated Fri, 18 Apr 2003 15:00:12 +0200:  >Hi,* >I want to flush the arp table in UCX 2.0. >any ideas ?  F In today's UCX (5.3), you can delete the ARP entry for a particular IP address with the command:        $ UCX SET NOARP ip-address  D I don't know whether UCX 2.0 is the same, and the only way I know to6 completely clear the table is to restart UCX (or VMS).  + --Keith Lewis              klewis$mitre.org > The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Apr 2003 08:23:14 -0700, From: vinit.adya@mizuhocbus.com (Vinit Adya)C Subject: Re: How to access DB2 on an AS/400 from Oracle on OpenVMS? = Message-ID: <eb8f4d7b.0304180723.2542a22d@posting.google.com>   & You could use oracle gateway on AS400.   "Stuart, Ed" <Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com> wrote in message news:<92EFB80E551BD511B39500D0B7B0CDCC0CEF970E@ohms.electric.ci.austin.tx.us>...  > Hello all; > L > We are looking for a driver that will allow us to access a DB2 database onH > an AS/400 from an Oracle database (8.1.7) on OpenVMS (7.2-1). From theI > Windows world we use IBM Client Access, but I haven't been able to find * > Client Access for OpenVMS.  Suggestions? >  > EdG > **Please apply a generous amount of all the usual disclaimers here.**  >  >  > --   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Apr 2003 08:29:31 -0700, From: vinit.adya@mizuhocbus.com (Vinit Adya)> Subject: HP: IT resource center forums: Why is VMS not listed.= Message-ID: <eb8f4d7b.0304180729.489053f2@posting.google.com>   D There is no OpenVMS section onthe HP IT resource center forums. That? amazes me as they recently added a Tru64 section. Even includes  microsoft sections.   & What do you think could be the reason?   The Link is as follows:   . http://forums.itrc.hp.com/cm/Home/1,,1,00.html   Cheers Vinit    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Apr 2003 10:17:52 -0000= From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Supplied-Address-Header@[127.1]> ) Subject: Re: Interesting VMS ad in Google 4 Message-ID: <20030418101752.897.qmail@nym.alias.net>  F On Thu, 17 Apr 2003, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> wrote:  M >It seems like Google has added lots of smarts to its software. I wonder what L >sort of arrangement www.stanq.com has with Google in terms of deciding what! >triggers their "sponsored link".   2 Some people aren't so sure about Google's 'smarts'  C "Anti-war slogan coined, repurposed and Googlewashed... in 42 days"   7 <URL:http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/30087.html>    "Google washes whiter"  7 <URL:http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/30195.html>      Doc. --  : Time and money, the psychotropics of the business world...K ~ VAXman                                             https://vmsbox.cjb.net    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Apr 2003 00:24:00 -0700) From: jbrankin@ntlworld.com (Jim Brankin) , Subject: Re: iSCSI Devices for OpenVMS 7.3-1= Message-ID: <863f19d6.0304172324.55972ae5@posting.google.com>   v Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br> wrote in message news:<20030416212957.91567.qmail@web20204.mail.yahoo.com>...4 > I am not a storage specialist but iSCSI looks like$ > for me like a NFS improvement ...  >  >     K No, iSCSI is a block protocol, not a file server protocol. You could build  H any file system on top of it, including ODS2/5. It is more like OpenVMS @ Disk Services for NT, which also serves disk blocks, not files.   D There are two obvious ways of implementing it. You could use the IP I interface which most computers have nowadays and build the iSCSI service  G on that or you could implement the protocol on a specialised card. The  E FAQ at http://technomagesinc.com/iscsi_faq.html mentions four cards,  G from Qlogic, Intel, Adaptec and Emulex. Does anyone have any experience K of these or other iSCSI cards? If you program them properly do they provide @ a stardard interface of any sort? Could DKDRIVER work with them?      - Jim    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 14:14:33 +0200 1 From: PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> = Subject: No evasive action on Network incoming FTP task, why? 4 Message-ID: <3e9fec21$0$28330$626a54ce@news.free.fr>  K I'm currently having every 20 seconds a deny of service attack on my Alpha.  The SH INT sez:   
 DTL02> sh int A Intrusion       Type       Count        Expiration         Source A ---------       ----       -----        ----------         ------ Q     NETWORK      INTRUDER     32   18-APR-2003 14:15:04.90  host170-70.pool80180.  interbusiness.it::FTP_50B446AA  7 %%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  18-APR-2003 14:09:58.03  %%%%%%%%%%% ' Message from user AUDIT$SERVER on DTL02 P Security alarm (SECURITY) and security audit (SECURITY) on DTL02, system id: 102 6 3 Auditable event:          Network breakin detection 1 Event time:               18-APR-2003 14:09:58.03 " PID:                      000004F4) Process name:             TCPIP$FTPC0006C # Username:                 anonymous * Remote nodename:          host170-70.pool8$ Remote node id:           1353991850& Remote username:          FTP_50B446AA; Status:                   %LOGIN-F-NOSUCHUSER, no such user   N Why is there no evasive action taken, as during interactive login attempts? I M would be pleased to see my FTP server pause until I fix the problem, and not  / listen to the keyboard bell every 20 seconds...   N Well, rereading what I just wrote does not seem to be the right solution as I & will actually make the villain win :-)  R So I ask the question differently. How can I disable access from this "gentleman"?   Thanks,  D.   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Apr 2003 07:24:30 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) A Subject: Re: No evasive action on Network incoming FTP task, why? 3 Message-ID: <kGGFKC+kwlBv@eisner.encompasserve.org>   h In article <3e9fec21$0$28330$626a54ce@news.free.fr>, PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> writes:  & > Remote node id:           1353991850  T > So I ask the question differently. How can I disable access from this "gentleman"?  ; From what you describe, access is effectively being denied.   A To prevent even _attempts_ at your VMS box, I would suggest using 2 a firewall to disable access from that IP address.  @ Normally, I think VMS is sufficient, but since you want to avoidD having the VMS defenses even be called upon, a firewall is required.   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Apr 2003 07:26:40 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) A Subject: Re: No evasive action on Network incoming FTP task, why? 3 Message-ID: <CWNWoUpwx6Sg@eisner.encompasserve.org>   h In article <3e9fec21$0$28330$626a54ce@news.free.fr>, PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> writes:   > DTL02> sh int C > Intrusion       Type       Count        Expiration         Source C > ---------       ----       -----        ----------         ------ S >     NETWORK      INTRUDER     32   18-APR-2003 14:15:04.90  host170-70.pool80180.   > interbusiness.it::FTP_50B446AA  P > Why is there no evasive action taken, as during interactive login attempts? I   2 What makes you say breakin evasion is not active ?  B The source is marked as an intruder.  If the source should provideF a proper username/password combination, access should still be denied.6 Do you have evidence that access would not be denied ?   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Apr 2003 07:39:56 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) A Subject: Re: No evasive action on Network incoming FTP task, why? 3 Message-ID: <2Eq1aPamq7eN@eisner.encompasserve.org>   h In article <3e9fec21$0$28330$626a54ce@news.free.fr>, PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> writes:M > I'm currently having every 20 seconds a deny of service attack on my Alpha.  > The SH INT sez:  >  > DTL02> sh int C > Intrusion       Type       Count        Expiration         Source C > ---------       ----       -----        ----------         ------ S >     NETWORK      INTRUDER     32   18-APR-2003 14:15:04.90  host170-70.pool80180.   > interbusiness.it::FTP_50B446AA  G    Somewhere in your TCP/IP stack you should have the ability to reject >    connect requests from host170-70.pool80180.interbusiness.it  E    Off the top of my head I know how to do this on Multinet, but that <    doesn't look like Multinet (logging format is different).   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 09:12:23 -0400 & From: David M Smith <dsmit115@csc.com>A Subject: Re: No evasive action on Network incoming FTP task, why? 8 Message-ID: <59uv9vg7ioq4ar13ld3r1ieuqatmvkk0n6@4ax.com>  O On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 14:14:33 +0200, PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr>  wrote:  L >I'm currently having every 20 seconds a deny of service attack on my Alpha. >The SH INT sez: >   O >Why is there no evasive action taken, as during interactive login attempts? I  N >would be pleased to see my FTP server pause until I fix the problem, and not 0 >listen to the keyboard bell every 20 seconds...  M I believe this is a known problem in some earlier versions of TCP/IP Services M which is fixed in newer releases and in ECO's for (some) older releases. What 9 version and ECO level of TCP/IP Services are you running?   O You might check the ECO "readme" files for your version and see if there is any P reference to intrusion detection. For example, here is a section of the "readme" for V5.0A ECO 2:           Problem:  B         After upgrading to latest V5.0A patch, Telnet users from aC         terminal server who mistype their password enough times can C         trigger the VMS Intrusion Detection mechanism and cause all @         Telnet users from that terminal server to be locked out.  I ------------------------------------------------------------------------- I David M. Smith 302.391.8533                       dsmit115 at csc dot com I Computer Sciences Corporation     (Opinions are those of the writer only) I -------------------------------------------------------------------------    ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 09:13:47 -0700 (PDT) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br>3 Subject: Nostradamus - The future of IBM, Sun, Dell @ Message-ID: <20030418161347.49229.qmail@web20202.mail.yahoo.com>  1 A long time ago I was prophetic here in this list 6 when I said about the need of processor consolidation., So HP, SGI, Dell, Unisys turned to Itanium. % IBM too but they are not trustable...   / Now I suspect that in the near future IBM will:   2 a) Merge/Make an operational agreement with Dell, 3 because IBM is not selling Intel hardware !  Mostly 4 desktops. And in fact IBM Intel hardware is not what we can call "state of art"...   0 b) Merge/Make an operational agreement with Sun,9 because Sun is in trouble. Probably they will consolidate 6 the processors (SPARC / PowerPC) or make an technology transfer to AMD !   9 http://www.openvms.org/stories.php?story=03/04/17/1544572   1 I think ont of both prophecies above can haoppen. 1 Let's see if we will have Scott or Michael as IBM  chairman in a few  years ! :-))    Regards    FC     =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  2 __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?- The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo  http://search.yahoo.com    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Apr 2003 08:20:00 -07001 From: susan_skonetski@hotmail.com (Sue Skonetski) . Subject: ODS5 has been added to the test drive= Message-ID: <857e9e41.0304180720.7c920325@posting.google.com>    From: Schafer, Mark ' Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2003 9:55 AM  To: Skonetski, Susan+ Subject: [Fwd: ODS5: What is the downside?]      Susan,  D I have added an ODS-5 disk to the OpenVMS systems on the TestDrive,  http://www.testdrive.hp.com/          k Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> wrote in message news:<howard-E2FEC1.19562515042003@enews.newsguy.com>... H > In article <03041514095396@dscis6-0.dalsemi.com>, brandon@dalsemi.com  > wrote: > 9 > > Certain applications do require ODS-5 (Java, PERL(?))  > > > Oracle...  And other won't work with ODS-5, requiring ODS-2.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 01:54:48 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>6 Subject: Re: Problem with formfeed on the Genicom 4400/ Message-ID: <3E9F92FC.9D0D299A@vl.videotron.ca>    Lee Y T Mah wrote: > O > This printer is multi-use and must be flexible enough to handle 44, 66, or 88  > lines per page.   J If this is an ascii printer, then you really have no choice but to set theK appropriate escape sequences to tell the printer how big the pages for that L print job are. If/when it gets a form feed character, the printer is the one' that knows how much to move the paper.    M Perhaps what you need is a setup module to set the printer's page length with M the right escape sequence , and a reset module at the end of the job to reset & the page length to some default value.  M This way, you don't need to rely on the symbiont counting your lines for you.   J If it is an HPCL or Postscript printer, then you don't have such problems.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 12:21:27 +0200 , From: "Ferry Bolhar" <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at> Subject: Problem with Proxies 7 Message-ID: <1050661288.44827@mozart.adv.magwien.gv.at>   	 Hi folks,   G I encountered a strange problem with DECnet proxies. After migrating to I RFC1006 (DECnet over TCP/IP), the old, unqualified proxies did not longer  work. So we defined new ones:    MBA23B::OPER   becomed    MBA23B.HOST.MAGWIEN.GV.AT::OPER   4 However, I am unable to remove the old proxy! Trying   UAF> REMOVE/PROXY MBA23B::OPER  L will remove the new one, not the old one! Issiung the command a second time,	 I get the   8 NOSUCHPROXY, no proxy record matches your specification.  J Can someone tell me what to do here? We have hundrets of these old proxiesJ and I really would like to remove them to keep the proxy database as small as possible.   MTIA and kind greetings, Ferry   -- Ing. Ferry Bolhar % Municipality of Vienna, Department 14  A-1010 Vienna / AUSTRIA  E-mail: bol@adv.magwien.gv.at    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 07:21:46 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)! Subject: Re: Problem with Proxies L Message-ID: <rdeininger-1804030721470001@user-105n835.dialup.mindspring.com>  F In article <1050661288.44827@mozart.adv.magwien.gv.at>, "Ferry Bolhar" <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at> wrote:  
 >Hi folks, > H >I encountered a strange problem with DECnet proxies. After migrating toJ >RFC1006 (DECnet over TCP/IP), the old, unqualified proxies did not longer >work. So we defined new ones: > 
 >MBA23B::OPER  >  >becomed >   >MBA23B.HOST.MAGWIEN.GV.AT::OPER > 5 >However, I am unable to remove the old proxy! Trying  >  >UAF> REMOVE/PROXY MBA23B::OPER  > M >will remove the new one, not the old one! Issiung the command a second time, 
 >I get the > 9 >NOSUCHPROXY, no proxy record matches your specification.  > K >Can someone tell me what to do here? We have hundrets of these old proxies K >and I really would like to remove them to keep the proxy database as small 
 >as possible.   J I've seen similar behaviour.  I'm convinced there's a bug somewhere in theG proxy processing, but I've never been able to figure out exactly how to G reproduce the problems.  Maybe an old version corrupted my databae, and I later versions stopped corrupting but couldn't fix the damage.  It's beennG a version or so since I had trouble, so maybe it's fixed in the currentt release.  Or maybe not.s  E In the worst cases, I had to start over with an empty proxy database.   ( Some less drastic things to try first...  J There is a SHOW/PROXY/OLD command, which will give you a different view of
 the database.o   You can use commands likeM   SHOW/PROXY LOCAL:.MBA23B::*e0   SHOW/PROXY DOMAIN:MBA23B.HOST.MAGWIEN.GV.AT::*H and so on, depending on what DECnet namespaces you are using.  The orderG or your namespaces seems to effect what goes in the proxy database, andoJ changing the order may change the meaning of the database.  One my system,G the DOMAIN: form of proxies is stored in the file with no prefix, whileeF the LOCAL:. form is stored with the LOCAL:. prefix.  But LOCAL:. is my# default namespace.  I don't get it.i  N It's looks like your proxies are defaulting to the DOMAIN: form, like mine, so, REMOVE/PROXY MBA23B.HOST.MAGWEIN.GV.AT::OPER might work.t     -- Robert    ------------------------------    Date: 18 Apr 2003 06:21:40 -0700% From: tadamsmar@yahoo.com (Tom Adams)u* Subject: Re: system tools cd mount problem= Message-ID: <ea44f5a1.0304180521.79c14896@posting.google.com>   j tadamsmar@yahoo.com (Tom Adams) wrote in message news:<ea44f5a1.0304171146.6adb364a@posting.google.com>...C > When I try to mount the system tools CD (September 1999) I get a:n > & > MOUNT-F-NONEXPR, nonexistent process > + > error messsage and the CD is not mounted.A > F > I tried two different Compaq System Tools CDs from quarterly updates > and"8 > got the same message.  I mount other CD with problems.  D I should have written "I mount other CDs with no problems".  The twoC Compaq Systems Tools CDs that I tried seems to be the only one thate will not mount.t   > " > Any ideas why this is happening? > < > I used the mount command specified on the front of the CD. > D > I am trying to put a version of Compaq Analyze on a system that is	 > runningiD > 7.2-1, so I was going back to an earlier System Tools CD to try to@ > find a version of Compaq Analyze that is consistent with 7.2-1   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 02:00:20 -0400e0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>3 Subject: Re: tcpip 5.3-1 socket inactivity timeout? / Message-ID: <3E9F9448.42BA4EB5@vl.videotron.ca>e   "Wayne W. Scott" wrote:h >  > Hi Folks:a > R > Does TCP/IP 5.3-1 close sockets if there is no activity for some period of time?  K Various servers such as FTP do have inactivity timers. FTP's timeout can bea set with logical names.   G Not sure about the actual TCPIP kermel having built-in timeouts though.l  / What application are you having problems with ?o   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 13:29:04 +0200r. From: "Jesper Naur" <jesper.naur@post.tele.dk>3 Subject: Re: tcpip 5.3-1 socket inactivity timeout?4: Message-ID: <3e9fe0ed$0$153$edfadb0f@dtext01.news.tele.dk>  0 Wayne W. Scott <wscott@nac.net> wrote in message  news:3E9F9106.9020504@nac.net... > Hi Folks:t >eL > Does TCP/IP 5.3-1 close sockets if there is no activity for some period of time?a > K > I am not asking for something that I want to happen; I am trying to debug  a condition inL > which it appears that socket connections are being broken unexpectedly and	 I need toh > know what, where, when.m  K If this problem is something which you can predictably reproduce, you could>E use TCPTRACE to capture the TCP/IP traffic immediately leading to them> disconnection - if you post say the last 10 packets before theA disconnection, we should have a good chance of finding out why itr disconnects.       Best regards     Jesper Naurp   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 09:12:32 -0400p' From: "Wayne W. Scott" <wscott@nac.net>H3 Subject: Re: tcpip 5.3-1 socket inactivity timeout? & Message-ID: <3E9FF9C0.1060401@nac.net>   Bob Koehler wrote:R > In article <3E9F9106.9020504@nac.net>, "Wayne W. Scott" <wscott@nac.net> writes: >  >>Hi Folks:G >>R >>Does TCP/IP 5.3-1 close sockets if there is no activity for some period of time? >>[ >>I am not asking for something that I want to happen; I am trying to debug a condition in yW >>which it appears that socket connections are being broken unexpectedly and I need to v >>know what, where, when.. >  > C >    Network security folks like to set their systems to close idle( >    connections.s > E >    There are a variety of workarounds, like running monitor on your>B >    telnet session when it's going to be a while between your DCLC >    commands.  At the socket level KEEPALIVE often does just that.d    Q These are interesting points.  The product DOES have a keepalive option, which I  X suggested to the customer to add last night.  I had not thought of the network security U aspect.  Similar timeouts can be set in the product as well, but the customer is not i using that.a  V When "Network security folks like to set their systems to close idle connections," is 6 that in the TCP/IP products or on a firewall, or both?  @ JF Mezei asked "What application are you having problems with ?"  4 BEA Tuxedo 6.5 --> http://edocs.bea.com/more_tux.htm  P Customer is running clients and servers on the same machine. Clients can be run H elsewhere, and usually are; but 'same machine' is the current situation.  * I am on the customer support side of this.   Thanks to all, Wayne Scottn wscott@bea.com   ------------------------------    Date: 18 Apr 2003 07:37:25 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 3 Subject: Re: tcpip 5.3-1 socket inactivity timeout?R3 Message-ID: <vkkjGaHo3aou@eisner.encompasserve.org>0  P In article <3E9F9106.9020504@nac.net>, "Wayne W. Scott" <wscott@nac.net> writes: > Hi Folks:o > R > Does TCP/IP 5.3-1 close sockets if there is no activity for some period of time? > [ > I am not asking for something that I want to happen; I am trying to debug a condition in  W > which it appears that socket connections are being broken unexpectedly and I need to p > know what, where, when.r  A    Network security folks like to set their systems to close idle     connections.   C    There are a variety of workarounds, like running monitor on youra@    telnet session when it's going to be a while between your DCLA    commands.  At the socket level KEEPALIVE often does just that.u   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 11:31:56 +0200l2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender)) Subject: Re: VAX C++ 5.6 install question ; Message-ID: <3e9fc60c.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>n  , Scott Squires (hobbesnet@hotmail.com) wrote:F > I fixed that, and then it went through ok.  Except that I don't haveC > the CXXLSTL help which the CXX help says should be available.  Ito$ > isn't in the kit either.  Oh well.  L As the Standard Template Library (STL) is, well, standard, any documentationJ about it should do, e.g. http://www.cs.rpi.edu/projects/STL/stl/stl.html .  E That said, of course CXX should include the docs if its help says so.t   cu, 	   Martin n -- eG  Your mouse has moved.     | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmerl4  Windows must be restarted | work: mv@pdv-systeme.deH  for the change to take    |    http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/;  effect. Reboot now? [OK]  | home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de6   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 12:07:37 +0200 2 From: martin@radiogaga.harz.de (Martin Vorlaender)& Subject: Re: VAX/Alpha VMS differences; Message-ID: <3e9fce69.524144494f47414741@radiogaga.harz.de>r  1 JF Mezei (jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca) wrote: " > Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:	 > > BIND9D >qA > Isn't the BIND the same for TCPIP 5.3 for both vax and alpha ? L  I Nope. The resolver on both VAX and Alpha and the VAX BIND server is based C on BIND 8.2.1. Only the Alpha BIND server is BIND 9.2. SPD 46.46.16l   cu,g   Martin -- .J One OS to rule them all       | Martin Vorlaender  |  VMS & WNT programmer7 One OS to find them           | work: mv@pdv-systeme.denJ One OS to bring them all      |   http://www.pdv-systeme.de/users/martinv/> And in the Darkness bind them.| home: martin@radiogaga.harz.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 08:51:36 -0400 , From: "Richard Whalen" <WhalenR@process.com>& Subject: Re: VAX/Alpha VMS differences+ Message-ID: <b7ose1$rt6$1@news.process.com>s  C "Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER" <peter@langstoeger.at> wrote in messagea- news:LVGna.100771$UR.868224@news.chello.at...tH > In article <OFC8E9212E.5CB2D9C8-ON07256D02.0052972D@rsc.raytheon.com>,0 "David D Miller" <ddmiller@raytheon.com> writes:% > >   SHOW MEMORY due to architecturel > >   ODS-5 only on AlphawC > >   SDA has different interface and commands due to VMS structure 8 > >   @AUTOGEN/SYSGEN/SYSMAN PARAM due to VMS structure. > >m< > >Others?  Please send me a list and I'll make a composite. >e# > Here is my (very incomplete) list  >s :  > SSHo :l >,! > Please post your final list ;-)  >o > -- > Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERo' > Network and OpenVMS system specialisto > E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atH > A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist  F Process Software offers SSH for VAX and Alpha on many versions of VMS.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 13:57:44 -0400d* From: "Stanley F. Quayle" <stan@stanq.com>J Subject: Re: [VMS-SIG] LK46W Keyboard Driver for Win2K so I can access VMS. Message-ID: <3EA00458.10174.33C34A6@localhost>  + On 18 Apr 2003 at 12:41, Scott Layne wrote:bF > Many of us have had our VT terminals replaced with Windows *shudder*G > systems with terminal emulators, none of which seem to do a very gooda > job.  D I use SecureCRT (www.vandkye.com).  I can NumLock to be PF1, and am . able to use VT220's and my PC interchangeably.  B They also have a "CRT" version without SSH support -- but the SSH D support is highly useful for connecting with my Alpha with the beta- test SSH client.
 --Stan Quaylee Quayle Consulting Inc.  
 ----------C Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363  Fax: +1 614 868-1671:1 8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147C= Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com       http://www.stanq.comI   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.214 ************************