1 INFO-VAX	Sat, 19 Apr 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 216       Contents:B Re: AlphaStation 500 DE500 set to 100mbit not booting into cluster Re: BA356 woes - long + Re: DARPA Cancels OS Project After Comments & Re: Day Light Savings for VMS and UNIX9 Re: DCL question (of the day)- null byte in string symbol   Re: Disappearing CR/LF in editor" Re: FLASH Engine on Alpha/VMS/WASD" Re: FLASH Engine on Alpha/VMS/WASD Re: flush arp table I Re: Help! Bizzare behaviour of C RTL function stat - issue for SAMBA port - How come a WinTel Flash file works under VMS? 3 Re: OT: Re: DARPA Cancels OS Project After Comments   Re: Unix,VMS,Wintel connectivity5 Re: VMS to be present at european security conference   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 13:58:27 GMT / From: "Jeff Goodwin" <jgoodwin@maine.rrr-r.com> K Subject: Re: AlphaStation 500 DE500 set to 100mbit not booting into cluster 5 Message-ID: <7Ccoa.6701$_N.2184@twister.nyroc.rr.com>   I The DE500s are notoriously bad at Auto-Negotiation.  Try hard setting the K DE500 and your network device (switch?) at 100mbs Fast Full Duplex.  If the E DE500 is the first adaptor, I believe it would be ewa0_mode = FastFD.    -Jeff   - "trothf" <trothf@boeing.com> wrote in message $ news:3EA03EB2.AE1FA876@boeing.com...I > We installed a 10/100 DE500 card so we could run 100Mbit (the quickspec @ > says the onboard card can only run 10Mbit).  You have to tweekI > bootdef_dev  and it starts to boot into the cluster again, but it hangs H > after the network device select.  I do get 2 boot load hit messages onH > the server, but it's not getting beyond that.  I also removed the nodeG > from the cluster and readded it with cluster_config in case there was F > some residual cluster memory of the old hardware address (yes, I didI > change it first just in NCP, but that didn't help either). VMS 6.2-1H3.  > Any ideas?  Cluster reboot?    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 16:40:12 +0100 6 From: Chris townley <news@townleyc.NOSPAM.demon.co,uk> Subject: Re: BA356 woes - long8 Message-ID: <9dq2avciva4huamo5af3l609b07bdi7l8n@4ax.com>  E On Fri, 18 Apr 2003 20:16:22 -0400, Stuart Fuller <stufuller@usa.net>  wrote:   >Chris Townley wrote:  > 7 >> "Stuart Fuller" <stufuller@usa.net> wrote in message - >> news:udrp7b.qnm.ln@dadsys2.fuller.local...  >>> Chris Townley wrote: >>> E >>> > DEC PSW 433-AU running VMS 7.3 with QLA1020a SCSI wide onboard.  >>> > I >>> > Got a wide system disc, and a narrow 4Gb data drive. Connected up a M >>> > BA356-JC (beige) with a 16 bit personality module with a few drives - I ) >>> > have quite a few 4 and 9 Gb drives.  >>> > M >>> > Although I could see and access the drives, started showing quite a few G >>> > errors, especially when I tried a disc to disc copy from the wide 6 >>> > drive. No errors copying from the narrow device. >>> > L >>> > I read somewhere on a tru64 site that the beige shelf wiring is not up >> to , >>> > this configuration - is thbis the case >>> > J >>> > What are the options here? I presume I coudl try to get a blue shelfJ >>> > (anyone know where in the UK), or add a second 8 bit SCSI card (what	 >>> > can  >> I? >>> > use here?) and connect the shelf up with an 8-bit module.  >>> > L >>> > Does it make any difference that I am connecting devices internally as >>> > well as externally?  >>> >  >>> K >>> Generally speaking, you can run narrow and wide drives in a wide shelf. K >>> Some older narrow drives won't work, but they were generally before the  >> 4GB >>> drives started coming out. >>> H >>> The beige shelf wiring is correct for FAST (10Mhz) SCSI, but not for	 >>> ULTRA I >>> (20Mhz).  Since you mentioned that you're runing the 1020 controller, K >>> you're running FAST, not ULTRA, so that's not likely to be the problem.  >>> J >>> You might want to mention what type of errors you're seeing -- maybe a# >>> sample of the error log output.  >>  J >> Slightly embarrssed - I havent installed DECEVENT - will have to borrowL >> the CD from work again (hobbyist machine), before I can report the actual> >> errors. So much for a solid system management background... >>  M >> Could this be due to connecting internal as well as internal. The PSW docs M >> imply this is a no-no. So can I get a 16 bit interface for a second device  >> and conect to this? >>   > H >There have been some systems where connection to both the internal and G >external connectors of the SCSI controller is not supported.  This is  G >usually due to a SCSI length issue.  At FAST speeds, you're generally  E >allowed 3 meters of SCSI cable.  So, if you include the 1M of cable  L >internal to the system box, another 1M of cable internal to the BA356, you @ >run out of cable length to connect the system box to the BA356. > K >In addition to the error log entries, you might want to post the types of  K >disks that you have.  It may not make any difference, but you never know,  J >and when troubleshooting problems, a little more information never hurts.  B  Follows extract formn error log for the controller,and the system disc, plus disc details.' Extract from error log output for PKA0:   + **** V3.4  ********************* ENTRY  292   ********************************    , Logging OS                        1. OpenVMS* System Architecture               2. Alpha) OS version                           V7.3 $ Event sequence number         19872.9 Timestamp of occurrence              11-APR-2003 01:51:20 5 Time since reboot                    0 Day(s) 0:02:27 + Host name                            ALPINI   A System Model                         Digital Personal WorkStation   B Entry Type                       98. Asynchronous Device Attention     ---- Device Profile ----0 Unit                                 ALPINI$PKA0B Product Name                         ISP1020/1040 PCI-SCSI Adapter   ----- SCSI Port ----- # Long Word Count           x00000004 # Error Log Revision              x01 B Error Type                    x0307  0x07, SCSI Bus Reset DetectedD                                      0x03, Timeout Reset in Int Fork# SCSI ID                         xFF   7 SCSI Status                     xFF  No Status Received    ----- Software Info ----- 6 UCB$x_ERTCNT                      0. Retries Remaining6 UCB$x_ERTMAX                      0. Retries Allowable+ IRP$Q_IOSB                x0000000000000000 + UCB$x_STS                 x10000010  Online 4 IRP$L_PID                 x00000000  Requestor "PID"5 IRP$x_BOFF                        0. Byte Page Offset = IRP$x_BCNT                        0. Transfer Size In Byte(s) 5 UCB$x_ERRCNT                      7. Errors This Unit 4 UCB$L_OPCNT                      59. QIO's This Unit/ ORB$L_OWNER               x00010004  Owners UIC . UCB$L_DEVCHAR1            x0C440000  Available2                                      Error Logging5                                      Capable of Input 6                                      Capable of Output    + **** V3.4  ********************* ENTRY  331   ********************************    , Logging OS                        1. OpenVMS* System Architecture               2. Alpha) OS version                           V7.3 $ Event sequence number         19911.9 Timestamp of occurrence              11-APR-2003 02:31:35 5 Time since reboot                    0 Day(s) 0:42:42 + Host name                            ALPINI   A System Model                         Digital Personal WorkStation   B Entry Type                       98. Asynchronous Device Attention     ---- Device Profile ----0 Unit                                 ALPINI$PKA0B Product Name                         ISP1020/1040 PCI-SCSI Adapter   ----- SCSI Port ----- # Long Word Count           x00000006 # Error Log Revision              x01 ; Error Type                    x030B  0x0B, Controller Error :                                      0x03, Transport Error# SCSI ID                         x00   # Command Length                  x0A  Command & Data#                                 x28 #                                 x00 #                                 x00 #                                 x31 #                                 x05 #                                 x59 #                                 x00 #                                 x00 #                                 x40 #                                 x00   7 SCSI Status                     xFF  No Status Received    ----- Software Info ----- 6 UCB$x_ERTCNT                     16. Retries Remaining6 UCB$x_ERTMAX                     16. Retries Allowable+ IRP$Q_IOSB                x0000000000000000 + UCB$x_STS                 x10000010  Online 4 IRP$L_PID                 x00000000  Requestor "PID"5 IRP$x_BOFF                        0. Byte Page Offset = IRP$x_BCNT                        0. Transfer Size In Byte(s) 5 UCB$x_ERRCNT                      8. Errors This Unit 4 UCB$L_OPCNT                      59. QIO's This Unit/ ORB$L_OWNER               x00010004  Owners UIC . UCB$L_DEVCHAR1            x0C440000  Available2                                      Error Logging5                                      Capable of Input 6                                      Capable of Output   Extract for system disc:  + **** V3.4  ********************* ENTRY  349   ********************************    , Logging OS                        1. OpenVMS* System Architecture               2. Alpha) OS version                           V7.3 $ Event sequence number         20141.9 Timestamp of occurrence              12-APR-2003 14:27:55 6 Time since reboot                    1 Day(s) 12:38:54+ Host name                            ALPINI   A System Model                         Digital Personal WorkStation   1 Entry Type                        1. Device Error      ---- Device Profile ----0 Unit                                 ALPINI$DKA05 Product Name                         VIKING II 4.5SCA , Vendor                               QUANTUM   -- Driver Supplied Info - ) Device Firmware Revision             5520 D VMS SCSI Error Type               5. Extended Sense Data from Device# SCSI ID                         x00 # SCSI LUN                        x00 # SCSI SUBLUN                     x00 A Port Status               x00000001  NORMAL  -  normal successful 
 completion; SCSI Command Opcode             x28  Read (10 byte command)  Command Data#                                 x00 #                                 x00 #                                 x43 #                                 xB0 #                                 xB6 #                                 x00 #                                 x00 #                                 x78 #                                 x00   4 SCSI Status                     x02  Check Condition$ Remaining Byte Length            18.   --- Device Sense Data ---   2 Error Code                      x70  Current Error# Segment #                       x00 # Information Byte 3              x00 #             Byte 2              x00 #             Byte 1              x00 #             Byte 0              x00 3 Sense Key                       x04  Hardware Error # Additional Sense Length         x0A # CMD Specific Info Byte 3        x00 #                   Byte 2        x00 #                   Byte 1        x00 #                   Byte 0        x00 3 ASC & ASCQ                    x4490  ASC  =   x0044 3                                      ASCQ =   x0090 D                                      Device Vendor Specific ASC/ASCQ2                                      unrecognized.# FRU Code                        x00 9 Sense Key Specific Byte 0       x80  Valid Sense Key Data #                    Byte 1       x00 #                    Byte 2       x00    ----- Software Info ----- 6 UCB$x_ERTCNT                     16. Retries Remaining6 UCB$x_ERTMAX                     16. Retries Allowable+ IRP$Q_IOSB                x0000000000000000 + UCB$x_STS                 x18021810  Online 3                                      Software Valid 7                                      Unload At Dismount F                                      Volume is Valid on the local node?                                      Unit supports the Extended  Function bit4 IRP$L_PID                 x000A0075  Requestor "PID"5 IRP$x_BOFF                     7168. Byte Page Offset = IRP$x_BCNT                    61440. Transfer Size In Byte(s) 5 UCB$x_ERRCNT                     40. Errors This Unit 4 UCB$L_OPCNT                 1651453. QIO's This Unit/ ORB$L_OWNER               x00010004  Owners UIC 9 UCB$L_DEVCHAR1            x1C4D4408  Directory Structured 2                                      File Oriented-                                      Sharable .                                      Available,                                      Mounted2                                      Error Logging5                                      Capable of Input 6                                      Capable of Output2                                      Random Access    + **** V3.4  ********************* ENTRY  350   ********************************    , Logging OS                        1. OpenVMS* System Architecture               2. Alpha) OS version                           V7.3 $ Event sequence number         20142.9 Timestamp of occurrence              12-APR-2003 14:28:51 6 Time since reboot                    1 Day(s) 12:39:50+ Host name                            ALPINI   A System Model                         Digital Personal WorkStation   1 Entry Type                        1. Device Error      ---- Device Profile ----0 Unit                                 ALPINI$DKA05 Product Name                         VIKING II 4.5SCA , Vendor                               QUANTUM   -- Driver Supplied Info - ) Device Firmware Revision             5520 D VMS SCSI Error Type               5. Extended Sense Data from Device# SCSI ID                         x00 # SCSI LUN                        x00 # SCSI SUBLUN                     x00 A Port Status               x00000001  NORMAL  -  normal successful 
 completion; SCSI Command Opcode             x28  Read (10 byte command)  Command Data#                                 x00 #                                 x00 #                                 x30 #                                 x05 #                                 xF0 #                                 x00 #                                 x00 #                                 x2B #                                 x00   4 SCSI Status                     x02  Check Condition$ Remaining Byte Length            18.   --- Device Sense Data ---   2 Error Code                      x70  Current Error# Segment #                       x00 # Information Byte 3              x00 #             Byte 2              x00 #             Byte 1              x00 #             Byte 0              x00 3 Sense Key                       x04  Hardware Error # Additional Sense Length         x0A # CMD Specific Info Byte 3        x00 #                   Byte 2        x00 #                   Byte 1        x00 #                   Byte 0        x00 3 ASC & ASCQ                    x4490  ASC  =   x0044 3                                      ASCQ =   x0090 D                                      Device Vendor Specific ASC/ASCQ2                                      unrecognized.# FRU Code                        x00 9 Sense Key Specific Byte 0       x80  Valid Sense Key Data #                    Byte 1       x00 #                    Byte 2       x00    ----- Software Info ----- 6 UCB$x_ERTCNT                     16. Retries Remaining6 UCB$x_ERTMAX                     16. Retries Allowable+ IRP$Q_IOSB                x0000000000000000 + UCB$x_STS                 x18021810  Online 3                                      Software Valid 7                                      Unload At Dismount F                                      Volume is Valid on the local node?                                      Unit supports the Extended  Function bit4 IRP$L_PID                 x000A0075  Requestor "PID"5 IRP$x_BOFF                      512. Byte Page Offset = IRP$x_BCNT                    24064. Transfer Size In Byte(s) 5 UCB$x_ERRCNT                     41. Errors This Unit 4 UCB$L_OPCNT                 1654122. QIO's This Unit/ ORB$L_OWNER               x00010004  Owners UIC 9 UCB$L_DEVCHAR1            x1C4D4408  Directory Structured 2                                      File Oriented-                                      Sharable .                                      Available,                                      Mounted2                                      Error Logging5                                      Capable of Input 6                                      Capable of Output2                                      Random Access    @ System disc (Internal) is Disk ALPINI$DKA0:, device type QUANTUM VIKING II 4.5SCA, E Data disc (Internal) is ALPINI$DKA200:, device type COMPAQPC ST34371N   7 Discs I was trying in the BA356 were DS-RZ1DD-VW 9.1 Gb  and DS-RZ1-CF-VA 4.3 Gb    --  
 Chris Townley ) chris at townleyc dot demon dot co dot uk    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 11:30:40 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG4 Subject: Re: DARPA Cancels OS Project After Comments0 Message-ID: <00A1E9CE.0D9391F6@SendSpamHere.ORG>  o In article <BA52530E3149734A9BAABDBBFA808E4903027BEA@rlghncst964.usps.gov>, VAXVMS <bounce@notmail.com> writes: * >DARPA Cancels OS Project After Comments   > * >By MATTHEW FORDAHL, AP Technology Writer  > K >SAN JOSE, Calif. - The U.S. military's research agency cut off grant money C >for helping to develop a secure, free operating system after a top ; >programmer made anti-war statements to a major newspaper.   > L >The U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency halted the contract lessH >than two weeks after The Globe and Mail of Toronto published a story inK >which programmer Theo de Raadt was quoted as saying he was "uncomfortable"  >about the funding source.   > J >"I try to convince myself that our grant means a half of a cruise missile2 >doesn't get built," de Raadt told the newspaper.  > L >Within a few days, de Raadt said he received an e-mail from Jonathan Smith,G >a computer science professor at the University of Pennsylvania and the E >grant's lead researcher, expressing discomfort over the statements.   > ; >On Thursday, Smith notified de Raadt of the cancellation.   > K >"A tenured professor was telling me not to exercise my freedom of speech,"  >de Raadt said.  > L >Smith declined to comment on the matter, and DARPA did not return telephoneK >messages Friday. De Raadt's suspicions about the cancellation could not be  >confirmed.  > G >The $2.3 million grant had funded security improvements to the OpenBSD : >operating system since 2001 as well as related projects.   G It seems to me that my Uncle Sam could have spent my tax dollars wisely 9 and purchased an already secure and robust OS in OpenVMS.    --O VAXman- OpenVMS APE certification number: AAA-0001     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM              5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------   Date: 19 Apr 2003 14:51:38 GMT( From: bill@cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)/ Subject: Re: Day Light Savings for VMS and UNIX 5 Message-ID: <b7rnpp$3rd0k$1@ID-135708.news.dfncis.de>   = In article <b096a4ee.0304181036.6b64712f@posting.google.com>, 1 	spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) writes: [ > Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:<3E9D183A.273C5EBA@127.0.0.1>...  >> "David J. Dachtera" wrote:  >>  M >> > The full hour adjustment doesn't really make sense, but it may have been  >  > Why? > 9 >> > the best political compromise ol' Ben could manage,   > H >> daylight savings, you actually gain more light at the end of the day, > E > I don't see how this can be. When you set the clocks back one hour, G > you wind up getting up one hour later to go to work, and get home one B > hour later, and should therefore get one less hour of after-work > daylight.   C The thing I always find most interesting about this whole debate is C that at the time of Ben Franklin, who is supposed to be responsible E for this fiasco, people (especially farmers and at that point in time A the US was primarily agrarian) worked from before the sun came up A until after the sun went down.  So where exactly did they pick up F this extra hour of daylight?  Even in the industrialized north, a millI worker's day in 1845 ran from 5:00AM until 7:00 PM (Source: Massachusetts < House of Representatives, "Report on Hours of Labor, 1845").  D So, where it really seems silly today, it should have seemed utterly= ridiculous at the time it is purported to have been invented.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------   Date: 19 Apr 03 13:22:10 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) B Subject: Re: DCL question (of the day)- null byte in string symbol) Message-ID: <ueHABrBzxBQA@elias.decus.ch>   H In article <Hb$PRPjcfP0i@cpva.saic.com>, mckinneyj@cpva.saic.com writes:5 > In article <KXwKUXMAhyLh@eisner.encompasserve.org>, # >  briggs@encompasserve.org writes:  >  >>   >>  E >> The question at hand is why a particular string value doesn't work F >> in DCL.  What is special about a leading null character in a string  >> that should cause IF to fail. >>   > K > I recall that in the early '80s, when systems were much slower, inserting I > a null character immediately after a "!" that was introducing a comment F > within any frequently used command procedures. It was said, though II > haven't examined the DCL source to confirm, that the presence of a null F > on the command line signalled DCL to terminate parsing the line. So,H > the theory was that we bought a slight performance boost by having DCLG > abandon parsing at the beginning of a comment rather than at the end.  > We all know that >  > $! 'f$verify(0)' > F > results in verification being turned off even though the lexical is E > part of a comment. So we know that even comments are parsed. If the E > command line prior is altered to have a null after the "!" then the F > lexical isn't executed. Use an editor to insert a null character and > try it or even >  > $ x[0,8]=0 > $! 'x' 'f$verify(0)' > " > you could even demonstrate using >  > $ x[0,8]=0 > $ 'x' show time  >   , That works as you describe here - no output.  J > could be a bug, could be a feature... don't know. But it appears to have/ > behaved this way since early versions of VMS.  >   C IIRC at one time (V2.n?), symbols in comments were translated. This F was useful for displaying a symbol's current value in log files. Or is my memory failing me here?   --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------   Date: 19 Apr 03 12:20:16 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) ) Subject: Re: Disappearing CR/LF in editor ) Message-ID: <+0KbcyLca3nb@elias.decus.ch>   ^ In article <3e9ea7af$0$29730$4d4ebb8e@read.news.nl.uu.net>, "Poiter" <johan@noway.not> writes: > 0 >> Even easier than that, as I learnt last year: >> >> $ EDIT/TECO file.prn  >> EX$$  >>F >> (where the $$ is two escapes - CTRL/3 on an LK keyboard or CTRL/[ ) >>	 >> <snip>  >> -- 
 >> Paul Sture  >  > This was idd the solution! > Thanks a lot!  >   K Excellent. About 10 years ago I did it the hard way, reading block by block K and interpreting the contents myself, so this one rather sticks in my mind.    --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 08:48:43 +0200 1 From: PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> + Subject: Re: FLASH Engine on Alpha/VMS/WASD 4 Message-ID: <3ea0f144$0$26352$626a54ce@news.free.fr>  * Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr wrote:  M > Does Netscape display the flash and IE not, or vice-versa, or do both fail?   # the three of them fail (with Opera)    I'll try the WASD config.  Thanks,    D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 08:52:23 +0200 1 From: PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> + Subject: Re: FLASH Engine on Alpha/VMS/WASD 4 Message-ID: <3ea0f220$0$26352$626a54ce@news.free.fr>   JF Mezei wrote: J > Oh one more thing. Since the "ble banner.swf" contains a space characterL > (encoded at %20 in url), how was the file actually stored on your WASD vmsP > server ?  Did you replace the space with underline ? If so, you need to update> > the HTMO to point to the actual resource on your web server.   BLODZENGUTS !!!   I The Webmistress is found of spaces and exclamation points in HTML source  1 filenames. I changed all of them but this one :-(   2 What a nice Chocolate egg for Easter tomorrow, JF. Merci.   D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 17:16:04 +0200 1 From: PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr>  Subject: Re: flush arp table4 Message-ID: <3ea1682e$0$26346$626a54ce@news.free.fr>   Keith A. Lewis wrote:  > Serge ZANGHERI <szangheri@grenoble.sema.slb.com> writes in article <3E9FF6DC.2D579F8A@grenoble.sema.slb.com> dated Fri, 18 Apr 2003 15:00:12 +0200:  >  >>Hi, + >>I want to flush the arp table in UCX 2.0. 
 >>any ideas ?  >  > H > In today's UCX (5.3), you can delete the ARP entry for a particular IP > address with the command:  >   >     $ UCX SET NOARP ip-address > F > I don't know whether UCX 2.0 is the same, and the only way I know to8 > completely clear the table is to restart UCX (or VMS).  I He asked the same question in the French VMS forum and my answer has been   5 $ mc ncl flush session control naming cache entry "*"    :-)   , The (real) experts there are still laughing!) Looks like I need to go back to school...    D.
 (getting old)    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 11:36:11 -0400 5 From: "Brad McCusker" <brad.mccuskerNosp@Mcompaq.com> R Subject: Re: Help! Bizzare behaviour of C RTL function stat - issue for SAMBA port/ Message-ID: <va2r7m2cld8873@corp.supernews.com>   I Can I get a copy of your test program? And an idea of how you are running L it, if its not obvious (I'm most interested in knowing of you are feeding itD unix style file specs, logicals, etc.   Also, if you have any DECC$*K logicals defined, that would be of interest.  I didn't notice if you say if 4 you are on ODS2 or ODS5, it might make a difference.  G Also, you mention "latest and greatest patches on version 7.2-1", well, @ 7.2-1 is no longer a supported version, so, the latest ACRTL ECOJ (Dec02/Jan03) isn't available on 7.2-1.  Shouldn't matter too much though.G However, we did do some work on stat() and friends for V7.3-2, it'll be - interesting to run your program against that.   
 Brad McCusker  OpenVMS C RTL Project Leader OpenVMS Engineering  Hewlett-Packard Company  Nashua, NH USA          0 "BCbuyer" <BCbuyer@hotmail.com> wrote in message1 news:Z0Cna.596$ja.111482@news2.calgary.shaw.ca... D > There has been much discussion in the SAMBA-VMS mailing list about	 improving L > performance for directory browsing. Much of the attention has been focusedF > on the cost of the stat() function from the DEC C RTL. Work has been carried J > out to cache file information such as size, creation date, etc. This hasL > lead to remarkable performance improvements, except for that first read of > the directory. > K > The stat() function does a lookup of a given file by name to retrieve all H > the relevant information. "Knowing" that this was a problem, I wrote aB > simple program to mimic the behaviour of the SAMBA code. It uses
 opendir(),D > then loops over the directory with readdir() to retrieve a list ofL > filenames, then closedir(). A separate loop invokes stat() to retrieve theL > information for each file in the list generated earlier. This organization@ > is dictated by general SAMBA design - we have no problem here. > L > I wrote a simple program that executes just these C function calls against a J > directory specified with Unix syntax. One of the effects of this is thatJ > only the top-level files are seen - without version numbers at that. TheE > program generated approximately three I/O per top-level file in the H > directory. I expected this given the overhead of file name resolution. > K > My idea was to use RMS calls to return the file name, FID, DID and volume K > name in the first loop and then use an RMS open by NAM block with the FID  toJ > bypass most of the overhead. I wrote another simple program to test this out K > and saw approximately one I/O per top-level file in the directory. Again,  as > expected.  > H > Going back to the actual SAMBA server program, I ran a careful test toH > verify the I/O load. To my surprise, a SHOW PROCESS /CONTINUOUS showed thatG > it was generating approximately one I/O per top-level file during the # > servicing of a directory request!  > E > I don't understand how it is possible for a loop of stat() calls to  generateC > so few I/O. Further, I don't understand why this behaviour is not 
 consistentJ > with the simplified program. All tests were run against a directory withI > over 800 top level files. The .DIR for this directory was less than 128  > blocks in size.  >  > F > Does anybody know for fact how the stat() function is implemented on current H > VMS systems? What would affect the number of I/Os it costs for a given call. H > If it makes a difference, we are talking about an Alpha and code built withJ > the current DEC C compiler and run with all the latest, greatest patches on > version 7.2-1. >  > 	 > Thanks,  >  Peter >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 17:10:51 +0200 1 From: PRSTSC::DTL <Didier.Morandi.nospam@Free.fr> 6 Subject: How come a WinTel Flash file works under VMS?4 Message-ID: <3ea166f5$0$26345$626a54ce@news.free.fr>  K So, I successfully fixed my Flash anim problem, but then I realized that I  N actually copied the .SWF and the .FIRE from my PC to the Alpha and "it works".  ' How come??? It's plain binary inside...    D.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 19:44:02 +0200 6 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Arne_Vajh=F8j?= <arne@vajhoej.dk>< Subject: Re: OT: Re: DARPA Cancels OS Project After Comments) Message-ID: <3EA18AE2.6090302@vajhoej.dk>    Marty Kuhrt wrote:B > The professor was _not_ keeping de Raadt from speaking.  FreedomA > of speech doesn't necessarily mean freedom from consequences.      True.    But I doubt that is the point.  , The freedom to say what you think about your+ countries politics without loosing your job # is rather fundamental in democracy.   , And the countries where that is not the case, is usually not countries we want to live in.   Arne   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2003 12:26:32 +0200 ( From: "H Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl>) Subject: Re: Unix,VMS,Wintel connectivity 5 Message-ID: <b7r88q$3p12a$1@ID-143435.news.dfncis.de>   K "JeffK." <uce@ftc.gov> schreef in bericht news:3EA06604.ED017429@ftc.gov... I > What products/technology are current for connecting unix boxes, VMS and F > Wintel machines as far as software goes?  I've heard COM, CORBA, DecF > ObjectBroker, sockets all bandied about, but a lot of it is older by > software paradigms.  >  > Suggestions? >  > JeffK.H As always it depends on what problem you are trying to solve. ConnectingH various platforms can be a matter of sharing printers, filesystems up toK client/server applications that use all kinds of platforms. So the question ' is, could you narrow it downs somewhat?    ------------------------------   Date: 19 Apr 03 12:58:31 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) > Subject: Re: VMS to be present at european security conference) Message-ID: <JEJ$gXe$ObI6@elias.decus.ch>   { In article <2735a3e44b.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk>, Alan Adams <alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk> writes: 0 > In message <3E9E363E.21D2DD3D@vl.videotron.ca>= >           JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> wrote:  > P >> Got thin in the mail from the ALL-IN-1 folks. (took a lot of processing since& >> they sent it as a WORD document :-) >>   >>  N >> 2 weeks to go before InfosecurityEurope 2003 opens its doors once again toN >> over 10,000 buyers and sellers inIT Security. Infosecurity Europe providesJ >> the best place forsourcing opportunities, information updates and freeV >> educational forums, tackling the key technology issues set to affect your business. >> eN >> There will be a strong OpenVMS presence there, and the ACME (AuthenticationL >> and Credential Management Extensions) team plan a demonstration of  a newL >> development from Reading  an LDAP ACME server that stores authenticationC >> information in the HP Enterprise Directory. Imagine storing your M >> organizations OpenVMS authentication data in one secure directory, ratheraQ >> than maintaining separate authentication information for each system. This newwI >> server is not available yet,  but will  be available as an  EAK (Early L >> Adopters Kit)  later this year. If you want to take part in its earliestP >> public airing, come to Infosecurity. For more information contact Dave Holt.. > < > Now if they'd thought to mention which country it is in... >   8 It is at Olympia, London, UK, 29th April - 1st May 2003.  E The same message was posted by Sue Skoentski the other day, includings the relevant URL:   0 http://www.infosec.co.uk/page.cfm/NewSection=Yes  " (be patient, it's very slow today)     -- k
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.216 ************************