1 INFO-VAX	Fri, 25 Apr 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 228       Contents:- Re: accessing consoles remotely via decserver - Re: accessing consoles remotely via decserver - Re: accessing consoles remotely via decserver % Re: BACKUP qualifiers: bug or feature ( Re: Bugs already appear in oopsteron ... Re: CSMA-CD Station Buffers + Re: DARPA Cancels OS Project After Comments + Re: DARPA Cancels OS Project After Comments  Fortel go bye-bye!= Ghostscript 6.50 & >=VMS 7.3: Error: /invalidfont in findfont G Re: Have you seen this...its new                         !!! ES(fEmFqLo G Re: Have you seen this...its new                         !!! ES(fEmFqLo G Re: Have you seen this...its new                         !!! ES(fEmFqLo G Re: Have you seen this...its new                         !!! ES(fEmFqLo F Re: HELP NEEDED - printing from a VAX to a Windows PC printer on a LANF Re: HELP NEEDED - printing from a VAX to a Windows PC printer on a LANF Re: HELP NEEDED - printing from a VAX to a Windows PC printer on a LAN  I learned about VMS from that...H Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopolyH Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopolyH Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopolyH Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopolyH Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopolyH Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopolyH Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopolyH Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopoly LTO (Utrium) - 2 media Re: LTO (Utrium) - 2 media More grumbling re VMS marketing # Re: More grumbling re VMS marketing # Re: More grumbling re VMS marketing # Re: More grumbling re VMS marketing  MS Outlook XP & IUPOP36 OpenVMS Freeware 6 CD, new Ghostscript to be included?6 OpenVMS Freeware 6 CD, new Ghostscript to be included?: Re: OpenVMS Freeware 6 CD, new Ghostscript to be included?) Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist Portal Press Release A OpenVMS Strategy and Directions 2003, June 25-26, Ottawa, Ontario  Re: Oracle & OpenVMS OT: killfile updates) Re: Question on logical name PSM$ANNOUNCE ) Re: Question on logical name PSM$ANNOUNCE  Setting MTU for TCPIP services" Re: Setting MTU for TCPIP services" Re: Setting MTU for TCPIP services+ Re: Suddenly, Tomcat won't startup any more  Re: Test Re: Thread Scheduling  Re: Unwanted Broadcast messages $ Vintage Computer Festival Europe 4.0  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 01:34:28 -0400 0 From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca>6 Subject: Re: accessing consoles remotely via decserver/ Message-ID: <3EA8C8E1.303F346D@vl.videotron.ca>   H Haven't seen all posts in this thread. Is the decserver port set to haveI autobaud characteristic ? If so, and the first character received isn't a K <CR>, then it may set itself to the wrong speed and generate those results.   I On the other hand, for reverse lat (connecting from the lan to the serial I port), it should always use the speed specified in the port's definition.    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2003 03:22:07 -0700% From: Bart.Zorn@xs4all.nl (Bart Zorn) 6 Subject: Re: accessing consoles remotely via decserver< Message-ID: <a98cd882.0304250222.7ddb6f1@posting.google.com>  > To me the problem seems to be the way you set up the services.  = For ports which have Access: Remote, the dedicated service is  irrelevant.   E In stead, you have to DEFINE/SET the services and ENABLE the relevant " port to the corresponding service.  E Autobaud cannot work for Access: Remote ports, but that does not seem  to be the problem here.    HTH,  	 Bart Zorn   e nmanser@progis.de (Manser) wrote in message news:<2178d61f.0304231627.42197483@posting.google.com>...  > hi VMS users > O > I want to access the consoles (opa0) of my servers remotely over a decserver   > 90TL >      [  Snip  ]   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2003 06:07:39 -0700, From: vinit.adya@mizuhocbus.com (Vinit Adya)6 Subject: Re: accessing consoles remotely via decserver= Message-ID: <eb8f4d7b.0304250507.5a638d9a@posting.google.com>   B I would wanna check DECserver port is not faulty. It basically hasF RS232 type line drivers wihich can blow up due to bad grounding/staticE etc. Try another port on the same decserver, or better still make the F access local and make sure u r able to get the "Local>" prompt and the
 port is fine.   g JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vl.videotron.ca> wrote in message news:<3EA8C8E1.303F346D@vl.videotron.ca>... J > Haven't seen all posts in this thread. Is the decserver port set to haveK > autobaud characteristic ? If so, and the first character received isn't a M > <CR>, then it may set itself to the wrong speed and generate those results.  > K > On the other hand, for reverse lat (connecting from the lan to the serial K > port), it should always use the speed specified in the port's definition.    ------------------------------    Date: 24 Apr 2003 23:42:49 -0700% From: Bart.Zorn@xs4all.nl (Bart Zorn) . Subject: Re: BACKUP qualifiers: bug or feature= Message-ID: <a98cd882.0304242242.6f78e9bb@posting.google.com>   A I fully agree that my hack of the BACKUP.CLD is not a recommended E solution to this problem (?). It is just to demonstrate that it could  be done.  E The behaviour of the /SAVE_SET qualifier is not under control of DCL. = It is BACKUP who decides whether it should be implied or not, B depending on the value of the parameter. My hack DOES give you the> correct error message, but only when you do not depend on thisD behaviour of BACKUP. As far as I know, DCL does not have the ability< to have one qualifier (/SELECT, in this case) imply an other (/SAVE_SET).   Regards,  	 Bart Zorn   c norm.raphael@metso.com wrote in message news:<OFDFA6A1D5.2BEB3C8A-ON85256D12.005A0D70@metso.com>... 1 > I have not checked, nor am I fluent in cmd, but * > after this edit, will BACKUP complain if7 > $  BACKUP tape:BIG_FILE.BCK/SELECT=SMALL_FILE.DAT *.* 7 > Where "/SAVESET" is implied and need not be specified G > (and "tape" is a logical name for a valid tape device specification)?  >  > D > From:  "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk> on 04/24/2003 08:42 AM > 8 > Please respond to "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk> >  > To:    Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > cc:  > 3 > Subject:    Re: BACKUP qualifiers: bug or feature  >  >  > 4 > "Bart Zorn" <Bart.Zorn@xs4all.nl> wrote in message9 > news:a98cd882.0304240425.1e47d9b0@posting.google.com...  > I > > If you have the freeware VERB utility, you can easily add this check.  >  .. ( > >   disallow (SELECT and not SAVE_SET) > L > You can do this locally; however, if HP did it they would break documentedJ > behaviour. Specifically, selective restores from tape where /SAVE_SET is > not  > required.  > H > That isn't to say that BACKUP couldn't be coded to check for redundant
 > qualifiers, L > of course. It's just it can't be done trivially, by changing the CLD file.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2003 07:24:14 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 1 Subject: Re: Bugs already appear in oopsteron ... 3 Message-ID: <sbgzdQG88Aj$@eisner.encompasserve.org>   U In article <vag1lm770lmgc1@corp.supernews.com>, "rob kas" <bob@paychoice.com> writes:  >  >  >           Hey Bob  > K >   There have been Bugs in Alpha Chips and Just recently some Cool Bugs in  > IA64-2 >   Fact of new chip life. >   H    There were bugs in the 11/780.  So we should expect new CPUs to be so    much different?   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:22:24 +0200 , From: "Ferry Bolhar" <bol@adv.magwien.gv.at>$ Subject: Re: CSMA-CD Station Buffers7 Message-ID: <1051276947.58810@mozart.adv.magwien.gv.at>   	 Hi folks,   % here is just what I found out myself:   L the STATION BUFFERS attribute of the CSMA-CD STATION entity is read-only. InG fact, there is no SET CSMA-CD command in NCL. As mentioned in the error F message, the SET directive does not support the CSMA-CD entity and its subentities.  L Why the different value on other systems: well, this depends on the hardwareL or better, on the LAN controller. Here is a short table of the different VAX@ and Alpha hardware and the corresponding STATION BUFFERS values:  C Hardware                             Type        Name         Value ; ----------------------------------------------------------- 6 MicroVAX 3100                  DESVA   ESA           87 MicroVAX 3100-9x             SGEC      EZA           64 4 MicroVAX 4000-105A        SGEC      EZA           64= DEC 3000-300LX                ?              ESA           32 4 AlphaServer 1000A 5/300    TULIP      EWA         164 AlphaServer 1000A 5/333    TULIP      EWA          48 AlphaStation 200 4/233         TULIP     EWA          16  K We have no other hardware here, but if you want, you can add the table with B your systems. I'm courious too see other systems and their values.  K I never understood the difference beetween a "state" attribute which cannot I be changed and a "characteristic" attribute which should be changeable as I long as the entity is in state "off" but cannot be changed becaused it is D read-only. If the value of an attribute cannot be changed, why it is displayed as "characteristic"?   Greetings, Ferry ---   ; > another question concerning DECnet/OSI AKA DECnet-Plus...  > I > On one of our systems, the "Unavailable Station Buffers" counter of the B > 'CSMA-CD Station CSMACD-0' entity grows very quickly. There is aI > characteristic for this entity named "Station Buffers". So I thought it 8 > would be the best to increase its value (currently 8).; > Into SYS$MANAGER:NET$CSMACD_STARTUP.NCL, I wrote the line  > : > SET NODE 0 CSMA-CD STATION CSMACD-0 STATION BUFFERS = 16 > K > before the ENABLE command (I guessed that this characteristic must be set K > before the station is enabled). However, during startup, I got this error 
 > message: > 5 > %NCL-E-CMLSENDFAILED, error sending command request 4 > -CML-E-EMAAPROB, error returned from VMS EMA agent1 > -NCL-E-DIRECTIVENOTSUP, directive not supported  > - > while station buffers still remaining at 8.  > I > While looking at other systems, I also saw this characteristic having a G > value of 64. Therefore, I guess that there is a way to change it? Can  > someone explain, how?  > , > BTW: OpenVMS V6.2, DECnet/OSI V6.3 ECO 11. > & > MTIA and kind greetings from Vienna, >  > Ferry  > -- >  > Ing. Ferry Bolhar ' > Municipality of Vienna, Department 14  > A-1010 Vienna / AUSTRIA  > E-mail: bol@adv.magwien.gv.at    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 03:55:23 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>4 Subject: Re: DARPA Cancels OS Project After Comments) Message-ID: <3EA8E9EB.1E0F1FF3@istop.com>   E Another DOD cutback: the Us defense department has announced it would N significantly reduce its presence at the upcoming Aviation show in France thisH June. They won't be sending any admirals or generals, greatly reduce theK number of US built planes present and won't participate in airshows (planes  stay on ground).  L It is ironic because as a result of this, France and others will have a muchF greater chance of getting contracts, so in the end, this will hurt the american companies more.   ------------------------------   Date: 25 Apr 2003 11:37:07 GMT, From: bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)4 Subject: Re: DARPA Cancels OS Project After Comments5 Message-ID: <b8b6l2$8a39i$1@ID-135708.news.dfncis.de>   ) In article <3EA8E9EB.1E0F1FF3@istop.com>, - 	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes: G > Another DOD cutback: the Us defense department has announced it would P > significantly reduce its presence at the upcoming Aviation show in France thisJ > June. They won't be sending any admirals or generals, greatly reduce theM > number of US built planes present and won't participate in airshows (planes  > stay on ground). > N > It is ironic because as a result of this, France and others will have a muchH > greater chance of getting contracts, so in the end, this will hurt the > american companies more.  C Not likely.  American aircraft just finished an "air show" where it B mattered.  I didn't see any Mirages or Saabs over there.  Oh yeah,F and I didn't see Poland go running to an EU aircraft company for their new ari force either.      bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2003 07:52:22 -0700$ From: svieth@wi.rr.com (Scott Vieth) Subject: Fortel go bye-bye! = Message-ID: <5a85bce2.0304250652.2f37c111@posting.google.com>    "To All FORTEL Customers:        D This is to advise you that on April 23, 2003 the Bankruptcy Court of: Northern California; Oakland Division approved the sale ofE substantially all of the assets of FORTEL Inc (FORTEL) to Divestiture F Management Corporation (DMC). The potential of this sale was announced5 in a previous communication to you on March 18, 2003.        < As part of this transaction, DMC assumed the ongoing supportF obligation to certain US customers (those who were not assumed will beD notified in a separate document). DMC chose not to retain any of theE FORTEL employees and FORTEL has given notice to its US employees that E their last day of employment will be April 25, 2003. Furthermore, DMC > did not assume any of the contracts or obligations to criticalE vendors, distributors, re-sellers and partners. FORTEL will move from ' a Chapter 11 to a Chapter 7 proceeding.        B Additionally DMC chose not to assume any of FORTEL's InternationalA Subsidiaries (UK, Benelux, Germany, Switzerland and France). This A decision has forced FORTEL to advise all its subsidiaries to file > their own voluntary insolvency proceedings and to notify theirD respective employees that their employment will be terminated on theD last day of April. The Customer contracts of each subsidiary are notD part of this transaction by DMC. The liquidators of the subsidiaries> will determine the rights, possession and disposition of these
 contracts.       B In this transaction, DMC did not share its go-forward strategy forE doing business. For further information please contact either Charles 9 Hale, Charlie@divestcap.com, 617-8181-2222 or Bruce Hill, " bruce@divestcap.com, 617-818-3805.       F On behalf of all FORTEL, we have appreciated your business and loyalty5 to our solutions. We wish you the best in the future.         Terry Ewing  Sr VP Field Operations"    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:03:41 -0300 , From: Ben Armstrong <BArmstrong@dymaxion.ca>F Subject: Ghostscript 6.50 & >=VMS 7.3: Error: /invalidfont in findfont3 Message-ID: <h7cqa.47879$cB3.353488@nnrp1.uunet.ca>   H Using the Perl PDF::Create module, we generate shipping labels in PDF onH VMS.  Our script worked fine with Ghostscript 6.50 with VMS 7.1 and 7.2,H but on VMS 7.3 and greater, Ghostscript chokes with the following error:   Error: /invalidfont in findfont  Operand stack:= --dict:4/4(L)--   F2   10   --dict:5/5(L)--   --dict:5/5(L)-- 4         Helvetica-Bold   Font   Helvetica-Bold   265F 091   Helvetica-Bold   --nostringval--   Courier   (Courier)   Courier Execution stack:< %interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--9     --nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval-- @     --nostringval--   --nostringval--   false   1  %stopped_push ...   Current allocation mode is local Last OS error: 27 AFPL Ghostscript 6.50: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1   G Does anyone else have problems with Ghostscript 6.50 (PCSI kit from the J OpenVMS Freeware 5.0 CD) and VMS versions >= 7.3?  Or could someone pleaseG try to explain where the breakage is occurring and how it can be fixed?   % This is the Ghostscript command used:   > $ gs "-dSAFER" -q "-dNOPAUSE" "-dBATCH" "-sDEVICE=ljet4" -r3008 "-sPAPERSIZE=letter" "-sOutputFile=test.lj4" -f test.pdf  + This is the PDF that Ghostscript chokes on:    ,----[ /home/ben/test.pdf ] 
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 | /Root 5 0 R  | /Info 10 0 R | >> | startxref  | 1375 | %%EOF  `----    Thanks,  Ben  --  G       Ben Armstrong                -.       Medianet Development Group, E       BArmstrong@dymaxion.ca         `-.    Dymaxion Research Limited H       <URL: http://www.dymaxion.ca/>    `-  Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2003 09:39:01 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) P Subject: Re: Have you seen this...its new                         !!! ES(fEmFqLo3 Message-ID: <4r5dgBYQfckS@eisner.encompasserve.org>   a In article <Wxbqa.4993$U17.114906@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com> writes: N > Are we going to have to look at this garbage on top for another week because$ > the spammer set his clock forward?  E I didn't see the message you quote, but if I had I would not have any  problem with it being "on top".   D Are you perhaps using some Microsoft news client rather than ANUNEWS on VMS ?   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:23:50 GMT # From: "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com> P Subject: Re: Have you seen this...its new                         !!! ES(fEmFqLo; Message-ID: <Wxbqa.4993$U17.114906@twister.tampabay.rr.com>   L Are we going to have to look at this garbage on top for another week becauseJ the spammer set his clock forward?  Does anyone have the ability to delete this thread?  2 "Dave Smith" <davesmtih2@aol.com> wrote in message8 news:3c8qa.521$oA1.79264@newsfep2-gui.server.ntli.net...1 >   This is not spam. Full details at the bottom.  > ! > -------------------------------  >  > Dear Friend: > K > This is an improved version of a highly successful marketing program that D will make you many thousands of $? in the next few months.  The newI features are - a software program for extracting email addresses and over J 2,000 URL of bulletin boards, plus links to many other thousands of placesI where such addresses can be extracted - ALL FREE. Take advantage of these K new marketing tools and become rich fast. Please, read carefully the entire  message below and enrol today. > ! > -------------------------------  > 3 > AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TV: This is the media REPORT.  > @ > PARENTS OF 15 YEAR OLD FIND $71,000 CASH HIDDEN IN HIS CLOSET! > 6 > Does this headline look familiar? Of course it does. > H > You most likely have just seen this story recently featured on a majorL nightly news program (USA) and reported elsewhere in the world (including myE neck of the woods - New Zealand). His mother was cleaning and putting B laundry away when she came across a large brown paper bag that wasL suspiciously buried beneath some clothes and a skateboard in the back of her 15-year-old son's closet.  > K > Nothing could have prepared her for the shock she got when she opened the K bag and found it was full of cash. Five-dollar bills, twenties, fifties and 6 hundreds - all neatly rubber-banded in labelled piles. > H > "My first thought was that he had robbed a bank", says the 41-year-oldH woman, "There was over $71,000 dollars in that bag - that's more than my husband earns in a year".  > I > The woman immediately called her husband at the car-dealership where he H worked to tell him what she had discovered.  He came home right away andJ they drove together to the boy's school and picked him up. Little did theyF suspect that where the money came from was more shocking than actually finding it in the closet!  > F > As it turns out, the boy had been sending out, via E-mail, a type ofJ > "REPORT" to E-mail addresses that he obtained off the Internet. EverydayG after school for the past 2 months, he had been doing this right on his  computer in his bedroom. > K > "I just got the E-mail one day and I figured what the heck, I put my name H on it like the instructions said and I started sending it out", says the clever 15-year-old.  > I > The E-mail letter listed 5 addresses and contained instructions to send I one $5 dollar bill to each person on the list, then delete the address at K the top and move the others addresses down, and finally to add your name to  the top of the list. > E > The letter goes on to state that you would receive several thousand K dollars in five-dollar bills within 2 weeks if you sent out the letter with G your name at the top of the 5-address list.  "I get junk E-mail all the H time, and really did not think it was going to work", the boy continues. > F > Within the first few days of sending out the E-mail, the Post Office@ > Box that his parents had given him for his video-game magazineC subscriptions began to fill up with - not magazines - but envelopes  containing $5 bills. > I > "About a week later I rode [my bike] down to the post office and my box F had 1 magazine and about 300 envelopes stuffed in it. There was also aB yellow slip that said I had to go up to the [post office] counter. > L > I thought I was in trouble or something (laughs)".  He goes on, "I went upJ to the counter and they had a whole box of more mail for me. I had to rideF back home and empty out my backpack because I could not carry it all". > K > Over the next few weeks, the boy continued sending out the E-mail.   "The K money just kept coming in and I just kept sorting it and stashing it in the K closet, barely had time for my homework".  He had also been riding his bike C to several of the banks in his area and exchanging the $5 bills for  twenties, fifties and hundreds.  > J > "I didn't want the banks to get suspicious so I kept riding to differentL banks with like five thousand at a time in my backpack. I would usually tellG the lady at the bank counter that my dad had sent me in to exchange the K money and he was outside waiting for me. One time the lady gave me a really J strange look and told me that she would not be able to do it for me and myJ dad would have to come in and do it, but I just rode to the next bank down the street (laughs)."  > K > Surprisingly, the boy did not have any reason to be afraid. The reporting L news team examined and investigated the so-called "chain-letter" the boy wasI sending out and found that it was not a chain-letter at all.  In fact, it G was completely legal according to US Postal and Lottery Laws, Title 18, L Section 1302 and 1341, or Title 18, Section 3005 in the US code, also in theK code of federal regulations, Volume 16, Sections 255 and 436, which state a 8 product or service must be exchanged for money received. > L > Every five-dollar bill that he received contained a little note that read,J "Please send me REPORT number XY".  This simple note made the letter legalL because he was exchanging a service (A REPORT on 'how to') for a five-dollar fee. > L > [This is the end of the media release. If you would like to understand howE the system works and get your $71,000+ please continue reading.  What B appears below is what the 15 year old was sending out on the net -< > YOU CAN USE IT TOO - just follow the simple instructions]. > ! > -------------------------------  > 
 > Dear Friend  >  > E > It is now possible to make a lot of money from home, for a one-time  investment of just $25.  > . > THANKS TO THE COMPUTER AGE AND THE INTERNET! > I > After you've said " bull***t ", please read the following.  This is the B letter you have been hearing about on the news lately.  Due to theI popularity of this letter on the Internet, a national weekly news program D recently devoted an entire show to the investigation of this programJ described below, to see if it really can make people money.  The show alsoI investigated whether or not the program was legal.  Their findings proved C once and for all that there are "absolutely no laws prohibiting the @ participation in the program and if people can follow the simpleK instructions, they are bound to make some bucks with only $25 out of pocket  cost". > E > DUE TO THE RECENT INCREASE OF POPULARITY & RESPECT THIS PROGRAM HAS 3 ATTAINED, IT IS CURRENTLY WORKING BETTER THAN EVER.  >  > This is what one had to say: > J > "My thanks go out to this profitable opportunity.  I was approached manyI times before but each time I passed on it.  I am so glad I finally joined L just to see what one could expect in return for the minimal effort and moneyF required.  To my astonishment, I received a total of $610,470.00 in 21# weeks, with money still coming in".  > $ > Pam Hedland, Fort Lee, New Jersey. >  >  > Here is another testimonial: > K > "This program has been around for a long time but I never believed in it. L One day when I received this again in the mail I decided to gamble my $25 onK it.  I followed the simple instructions and, voila, 3 weeks later the money H started to come in.  The first month I only made $240.00, but the next 2G months after that I made a total of $290,000.00.  So far, in the past 8 H months by re-entering the program, I have made over $710,000.00 and I am playing it again.  >  > Jan Waites, Watford, UK  >  > J > The key to success in this program is to follow the simple steps and NOT change anything. >  >  > INSTRUCTIONS:  > I > Order all 5 Reports shown on the list below, you must order each Report , from the person whose name appears under it. > I > 1. For each Report, send $5 cash, the name and number of the Report you & are   ordering and your email address. > H > You may also send the following cash alternatives: ?5 Euros, 5 Pounds5 Sterling, $5 Canadian, $5 Australian, $5 New Zealand.  >  > L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------H > REPORT 1 "The Insider's Guide to Sending Bulk E-mail on the Internet".F >       ***Plus the FREE E-mail extractor software as an attachment***L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------
 > Order from:  > 	 > M Beard 
 > PO Box 7664  > Nottingham	 > NG6 8XY  > UK > L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- H > REPORT 2 "The Insider's Guide to Advertising for Free on the Internet"L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- 
 > Order from:  > 	 > K. Ryan  > PO Box 37833 > London SE23 3UA  > UKL > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- @ > REPORT 3 "The Secrets to Multilevel Marketing on the Internet"L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- 
 > Order from:  > 
 > Ilian Popov  > PO Box 218 > Stara Zagora 6000 
 > Bulgaria > L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- K > REPORT 4 " How to become a Millionaire utilizing the Power of Multi Level  Marketing and the Internet" L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- 
 > Order from:  >  > Walter S. Stuart
 > PO Box 4028  > Beeville, TX 78104 > USA L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- 3 > REPORT 5 "How to Send 1,000,000 e-mails for FREE" L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------- 
 > Order from:  >  > Kenneth I. Purfey  > 4960 Almaden Expy. # 331 > San Jose, CA 95118-2007  > USA  >  > L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- -----------------  >  >  >  >  > # > TOTAL INVESTMENT $5 X 5 = $25.00.  > K > Within a few days you will receive, via email, each of the 5 Reports from  these 5 different individuals. > J > Save them on your computer so they will be accessible for you to send to3 the 1,000's of people who will order them from you.  > K > Also make a floppy of these Reports and keep it in case something happens  to your computer.  > E > 1. After you have ordered all 5 Reports, copy and paste this entire G advertisement into Word or Notepad and REMOVE the name & address of the > person in Report 5. This person has made it through the cycle. > 9 > 2. Move the name & address in REPORT 4 down TO REPORT 5  > 9 > 3. Move the name & address in REPORT 3 down TO REPORT 4  > 9 > 4. Move the name & address in REPORT 2 down TO REPORT 3  > 9 > 5. Move the name & address in REPORT 1 down TO REPORT 2  > 9 > 6. Insert YOUR name & address in the REPORT 1 Position.  > < > PLEASE MAKE SURE you copy every name & address ACCURATELY! > J > 7. Take the letter, with the modified list of names, and save it on your computer > K > 8. By using the FREE software you will get with Report 1 and by following K the guidelines below and by using the valuable information contained in the ? Reports, You will then be able to easily advertise your letter.  > G > 9. Then for every $5 you receive, all you do is email the Report they  ordered. >  > And That's it!!  > I > IMPORTANT - DO NOT alter the names of the people who are listed next to I each Report, or their sequence on the list, in any way other than what is L instructed above or you will lose out on the majority of your profits.  OnceL you understand the way this works, you will also see how it does not work if you change it. > I > Remember, this method has been tested, and if you alter it, it will NOT H work!!!  People have tried to put their friends & relatives names on allJ five thinking they could get all the money. But it does not work this way.E Believe us, we have all tried to be greedy and then nothing happened. % Remember, honesty reaps the reward!!!  >  >  > ! > $$$ YOUR SUCCESS GUIDELINES $$$  >  > D > There are currently more than 250,000,000 people online worldwide! > I > To assist you with marketing your letter on the Internet, the 5 Reports I you purchase will provide you with invaluable marketing information which I includes how to send bulk emails legally, where to find thousands of free  classified ads and much more.  > 7 > There are 2 Primary methods to get the venture going:  > L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------* > METHOD 1: BY SENDING BULK E-MAIL LEGALLYL > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- > K > Let's say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes, and we D will assume you and those involved send out only 5,000 e-mails each. >  >eH > Now, with the software program that you will receive for FREE when youL order Report 1, it will be easier than ever to collect 5,000, 10,000 or muchD more, fresh email addresses with a few days work. No need to pay forC expensive mailing lists that are often out of date. Or to bulk maileG companies to send your offer out to, often old mailing lists.  Now yournI success will depend entirely on you. Along with the extract software, you!G will receive full instructions on how to use it, addresses of more than!B 2,000 bulletin boards and other places where you can extract emailL addresses.  Plus other information and links to free software downloads thatJ will help ensure your efforts are successful. All this will be included asH an addition to Report 1.  The software will be included as an attachment with the same REPORT.E > G > Let's also assume that the mailing receives only a 0.2% response (the L response could be much better but let's just say it is only 0.2%.  Also manyK people will send out hundreds of thousands of e-mails instead of only 5,000oL each).  Continuing with this example, you send out only 5,000 e-mails.  WithE a 0.2% response, that is only 10 orders for Report 1. Those 10 peopleoJ responded by sending out 5,000 e-mails each for a total of 50,000.  Out ofL those 50,000 e-mails only 0.2% responded with orders.  That means 100 peopleH responded and ordered Report 2.  Those 100 people mail out 5,000 e-mailsK each for a total of 500,000 e-mails.  The 0.2% response to that equals 1000UI orders for Report 3.  Those 1000 people send out 5,000 e-mails each for anF total of 5 million e-mails sent out.  The 0.2% response to that equalsL 10,000 orders for Report 4.  Those 10,000 people send out 5,000 e-mails eachI for a total of 50,000,000 (50 million) e-mails. The 0.2% response to thatG# equals 100,000 orders for Report 5.M >rE > THAT'S 100,000 ORDERS TIMES $5 EACH = $500,000.00 (half a million).a >r' > Your total income in this example is:i > 1... $50 +
 > 2... $500 +  > 3... $5,000 +c > 4... $50,000 +3 > 5... $500,000 ......... Grand Total = $555,550.00N >CC > NUMBERS DO NOT LIE. GET A PENCIL & PAPER AND FIGURE OUT THE WORST L > POSSIBLE RESPONSES AND NO MATTER HOW YOU CALCULATE IT, YOU WILL STILL MAKE A LOT OF MONEY!  >c >wL > REMEMBER, THIS IS ASSUMING ONLY 10 PEOPLE ORDERING OUT OF 5,000 YOU MAILED TO.s >eK > Dare to think for a moment what would happen if everyone, or half or even-K one 4th of those people mailed 100,000 e-mails each or more? There are over L 250 million people on the Internet worldwide and counting.  Believe me, many# people will do just that, and more!- > G > If you do not receive at least 10 orders for Report 1 within 2 weeks,rL continue sending e-mails until you do.  After you have received 10 orders, 2L to 3 weeks after that you should receive 100 orders or more for Report 2. IfB you did not, continue advertising or sending e-mails until you do. >l >(L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------/ > METHOD 2: BY PLACING FREE ADS ON THE INTERNET-L > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- >iK > Advertising on the net is very inexpensive and there are hundreds of FREEpJ places to advertise. Placing a lot of free ads on the Internet will easilyJ get a larger response. We strongly suggest you start with METHOD 1 and addJ METHOD 2 as you go along. Use the valuable information in Report 2 to help you. > H > Once you have received 100 or more orders for Report 2, YOU CAN RELAX,L because the system is already working for you, and the cash will continue to roll in! >nL > Every time your name is moved down on the list, you are placed in front ofL a different Report. You can keep track of your progress by checking which of) the Reports people are ordering from you.  > K > If you want to generate more income just send another batch of emails and0F start the whole process again. There is NO LIMIT to the income you can generate from this business!!! >aL > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------- >E >r: > FOLLOWING IS A NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM: >rL > You have just received information that can give you financial freedom forL the rest of your life, with NO RISK and JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT. You canC make more money in the next few weeks and months than you have evereL imagined.  Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do NOT change it in anyI way.  It works exceedingly well as it is now.  One of the people you sendtK this to will send out 100,000 or more emails and your name will be on everyiG one of them.  Remember though, the more you send out the more potentiala customers you will reach.n >eF > So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials andF opportunity to become financially independent.  IT IS UP TO YOU NOW!!! >  >- > MORE TESTIMONIALS- >-< > "My name is Mitchell. My wife, Jody and I live in Chicago.I > I am an accountant with a major U.S. Corporation and I make pretty goodDG money.  When I received this program I grumbled to Jody about receivingtH 'junk mail'. I made fun of the whole thing, spouting my knowledge of theE population and percentages involved. I 'knew' it wouldn't work.  JodyuI totally ignored my supposed intelligence and few days later she jumped inoL with both feet. I made merciless fun of her, and was ready to lay the old 'IJ told you so' on her when the thing didn't work. Well, the laugh was on me!I Within 3 weeks she had received 50 responses. Within the next 45 days sheoL had received a total of $ 147,200.00 all cash! I was shocked.  I have joined Jody in her 'hobby'."a >," > Mitchell Wolf, Chicago, Illinois >m! > -------------------------------2 >3K > "Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind K to participate in this plan. But conservative that I am, I decided that theGK initial investment was so little that there was just no way that I wouldn'tnG get enough orders to at least get my money back. I was surprised when I A found my medium size post office box crammed with orders.  I made.L $319,210.00 in the first 12 weeks. The nice thing about this deal is that itJ does not matter where people live.  There simply isn't a better investment! with a faster return and so big."  >   > Dan Sondstrom, Alberta, Canada >4! > -------------------------------8 >8J > "I had received this program before.  I deleted it, but later I wonderedK if I should have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact toEG get another copy, so I had to wait until I was emailed again by someonetI else.........11 months passed then luckily it came again......  I did not G delete this one!  I made more than $490,000 on my first try and all thea money came within 22 weeks". >o > Susan De Suza, New York, N.Y.s > ! > -------------------------------d > F > "It really is a great opportunity to make relatively easy money withK little cost to you. I followed the simple instructions carefully and within.K 10 days the money started to come in.  In my first month I made $20,560.00.gG By the end of third month my total cash count was $362,840.00.  Life isg# beautiful, Thanks to the Internet".b >y% > Fred Dellaca, Westport, New Zealand  >eL > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------4 > D > ORDER YOUR REPORTS TODAY AND GET STARTED ON YOUR ROAD TO FINANCIAL
 FREEDOM!!! >e >n >C >  >b >o >  > "c]?]Di."a   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:49:57 GMT0# From: "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com>aP Subject: Re: Have you seen this...its new                         !!! ES(fEmFqLo; Message-ID: <pWbqa.5024$U17.116549@twister.tampabay.rr.com>   E I am ashamed to admit that I am using some other news reader on a PC.I  : "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message- news:4r5dgBYQfckS@eisner.encompasserve.org...,G > In article <Wxbqa.4993$U17.114906@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, "John N."e <JNixon@cfl.rr.com> writes: H > > Are we going to have to look at this garbage on top for another week becausel& > > the spammer set his clock forward? >VG > I didn't see the message you quote, but if I had I would not have anya! > problem with it being "on top".T > F > Are you perhaps using some Microsoft news client rather than ANUNEWS
 > on VMS ? >    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:53:45 GMTx4 From: brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton)P Subject: Re: Have you seen this...its new                         !!! ES(fEmFqLo= Message-ID: <ZZbqa.82294$gK.186667@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net>W  c In article <4r5dgBYQfckS@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:Pb >In article <Wxbqa.4993$U17.114906@twister.tampabay.rr.com>, "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com> writes:O >> Are we going to have to look at this garbage on top for another week becausen% >> the spammer set his clock forward?t >aF >I didn't see the message you quote, but if I had I would not have any  >problem with it being "on top". >hE >Are you perhaps using some Microsoft news client rather than ANUNEWSo	 >on VMS ?   M I am using NEWSRDR on my PWS433au box to read news, and I did indeed see this?! message, both on c.o.d. and here.t  I Larry, perhaps you had already killfiled the offending post by subject ory sender?e  A _________________________________________________________________M0 Bradford J. Hamilton			"All opinions are my own"/ bMradAhamiPltSon@atMtAbi.cPoSm		"Lose the MAPS"r   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 03:16:20 -04008% From: VMSnewbie <The7car@comcast.net>UO Subject: Re: HELP NEEDED - printing from a VAX to a Windows PC printer on a LANR8 Message-ID: <9mlhavsct80m6bamdakcu31lf2thsc0a7r@4ax.com>   Jerry,  E I think I'm getting closer, but I'm not quite there yet.  I believe ItF have Mocha W32 LPD installed correctly on the W98SE PC, and I followedF your instructions for setting up SYS$PRINT, but it's not working.  TheE message I get in SYS$PRINT.LOG is HOST SPECIFIED IS UNKNOWN.  I tried < adding in the IP and node name to both the local and networkE databases, and tried variations of for :rm and :rp (is the 'text' you.E have for :rp specific or a variable?), but still nothing.  Any ideas?x  C By the way, I have the kit and documentation for Digital TCP/IP 5.0TF (DEC-VAXVMS-TCPIP-V0500-9-1.PCSI), so if you send an e-mail to me withB a valid return e-mail address, we can talk about setting up an FTP' account for you to pick it up.  Thanks!a  
 -- Tony --   >:	 >: Jerry,- >:  F >: Thanks for responding.  I downloaded Mocha W32 LPD and set it up onE >: the Windows 98 PC.  However, I'm not a VMS system administrator (IsD >: only inherited this VLC when the company I was working for closedF >: down), so I need to know what I have to do in SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM andI >: elsewhere in order to print.  Any help you can provide will be greatlyd >: appreciated!  Thanks again. >:  
 >: -- Tony --b >:     >i > You're welcome.n >oI > The only thing required in SYSTARTUP_VMS.COM is the startup of Digital u > TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS. >o@ > This is my DCL script to define the printer, which can be done, > interactively; the blank lines are needed: >m% >   $ run sys$system:ucx$lprsetup.exe  >   add5
 >   SYS$PRINT:
 >   remote >    >    >    >   d700 >   text >    >   qR >   yA >   ys >   HP 960cse Printern >    >   yD >   yl >a >$  > And what the queue looks like: >t% >   $ run sys$system:ucx$lprsetup.exeJ >e >   UCX Printer Setup Program  >t0 >   Command  < add delete view help exit >: view >   #s >   # LOCAL PRINTERS >   #f >   UCX$LPD_QUEUE:\e >           :lp=UCX$LPD_QUEUE:\o >           :sd=UCX$LPD_SPOOL: >   #  >   # HP 960cse Printere >   SYS$PRINT|sys$print:\ 5 >           :lf=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/SYS$PRINT.LOG:\t >           :lp=SYS$PRINT:\y >           :rm=d700:\ >           :rp=text:\0 >           :sd=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/SYS$PRINT: >   #e >h0 >   Command  < add delete view help exit >: exit >u >   $  >mD > d700 is the node name of the Windows 98SE PC that has the printer. > < > I need to upgrade my Digital TCP/IP Services to 5.x, where1 > the lprsetup program name is tcpip$lprsetup.exe  >r >i3 >--Jerry Leslie   (my opinions are strictly my own) : >  Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email >r   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 09:22:44 GMT + From: LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM (leslie)yO Subject: Re: HELP NEEDED - printing from a VAX to a Windows PC printer on a LAN 8 Message-ID: <E77qa.6880$ac.665103@twister.austin.rr.com>  & VMSnewbie (The7car@comcast.net) wrote: : Jerry, : G : I think I'm getting closer, but I'm not quite there yet.  I believe ItH : have Mocha W32 LPD installed correctly on the W98SE PC, and I followedH : your instructions for setting up SYS$PRINT, but it's not working.  The@ : message I get in SYS$PRINT.LOG is HOST SPECIFIED IS UNKNOWN.    F : I tried adding in the IP and node name to both the local and networkG : databases, and tried variations of for :rm and :rp (is the 'text' youy) : have for :rp specific or a variable?), t  L No, it has to be 'text'; I don't recall what the other options are for 'rp'.    : but still nothing.  Any ideas? :   ) Does the W98SE have a static IP address ? ) Can the VMS system ping that IP address ?a   Here's my LAN's nodes:     Toshiba PCX 2000 cable modem a  F   Linksys BEFSR41 Router with 4-port switch : 192.168.1.1    static IPG   VAXStation 4000 model 96                  : 192.168.1.96   static  IPrG   Windows 98SE PC running LPD package       : 192.168.1.90   static  IPpG   Windows 98SE PC DHCP client, usually      : 192.168.1.100  dynamic IPO      D The node name, d700, is only defined on the VMS system; I did define@ it with an alias so it would work in either upper or lower case:     $ ucx show host d700          LOCAL databasee     Host address    Host namep     192.168.1.90    d700, D700  # Here's the output of lprsetup/view:d     $ run sys$system:ucx$lprsetup      UCX Printer Setup Programt  .   Command  < add delete view help exit >: view   #s   # LOCAL PRINTERS   #t   UCX$LPD_QUEUE:\o         :lp=UCX$LPD_QUEUE:\o         :sd=UCX$LPD_SPOOL:   #t   # HP 960cse Printeri   SYS$PRINT|sys$print:\r3           :lf=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/SYS$PRINT.LOG:\a           :lp=SYS$PRINT:\h           :rm=d700:\           :rp=text:\.           :sd=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/SYS$PRINT:   #n  .   Command  < add delete view help exit >: exit  B IIRC, at one time, the print queue subdirectory had to be created  manually; e.g. r  3   $ create/dir/log SYS$SPECIFIC:[UCX_LPD.SYS$PRINT]-  7 but it sounds like you're not experiencing that problemm     $ dir UCX$LPD_SPOOL:*.dira  "   Directory SYS$SPECIFIC:[UCX_LPD]     SYS$PRINT.DIR;1v     Total of 1 file.    $ show queue/full sys$print@  Server queue SYS$PRINT, idle, on JRLVAX::, mounted form DEFAULTE    /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FEED,FLAG,FORM=DEFAULT) /OWNER=[SYSTEM]sE    /PROCESSOR=UCX$LPD_SMB /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S) /RETAIN=ERRORp     $ show queue/full UCX$LPD_QUEUED  Server queue UCX$LPD_QUEUE, idle, on JRLVAX::, mounted form DEFAULTB    /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FEED,FORM=DEFAULT) /NOENABLE_GENERICG    /OWNER=[SYSTEM] /PROCESSOR=UCX$LPD_SMB /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S)C    /RETAIN=ERROR  %  $ show queue/full UCX$SMTP_JRLVAX_00t(  Generic server queue UCX$SMTP_JRLVAX_00N    /GENERIC=(UCX$SMTP_JRLVAX_01) /OWNER=[SYSTEM] /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S)    /SCHEDULE=(NOSIZE)-  E : By the way, I have the kit and documentation for Digital TCP/IP 5.0tH : (DEC-VAXVMS-TCPIP-V0500-9-1.PCSI), so if you send an e-mail to me withD : a valid return e-mail address, we can talk about setting up an FTP) : account for you to pick it up.  Thanks!n :   , I have the V5.1 version that I can send you:     $ dsd dka200:[ucxa051.kit]      Directory DKA200:[UCXA051.KIT]  $   DEC-VAXVMS-TCPIP-V0501-15-1.PCSI;1=                        53120/53120     9-FEB-2001 15:47:40.20P   &   Total of 1 file, 53120/53120 blocks.     : -- Tony --   Here's my email address:  H --Jerry Leslie   leslie@clio.rice.edu  (my opinions are strictly my own)9   Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email6   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 18:23:35 +0100C9 From: Alan Adams <alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk>TO Subject: Re: HELP NEEDED - printing from a VAX to a Windows PC printer on a LAN.? Message-ID: <12cfc8e84b.Alan.Adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk>f  7 In message <E77qa.6880$ac.665103@twister.austin.rr.com> 6           LESLIE@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM (leslie) wrote:  ( > VMSnewbie (The7car@comcast.net) wrote:
 > : Jerry, > : I > : I think I'm getting closer, but I'm not quite there yet.  I believe IoJ > : have Mocha W32 LPD installed correctly on the W98SE PC, and I followedJ > : your instructions for setting up SYS$PRINT, but it's not working.  TheB > : message I get in SYS$PRINT.LOG is HOST SPECIFIED IS UNKNOWN.   > H > : I tried adding in the IP and node name to both the local and networkI > : databases, and tried variations of for :rm and :rp (is the 'text' you + > : have for :rp specific or a variable?),   > N > No, it has to be 'text'; I don't recall what the other options are for 'rp'.  J The rp: value is specific to the printer concerned. On a host-to-host it'sG the name of the rEMOTE pRINTER, on a real printer it's internal. HP use F "text" or "raw" as the values, other makers different values. They are usually case-sensitive.    > " > : but still nothing.  Any ideas? > :  > + > Does the W98SE have a static IP address ?P+ > Can the VMS system ping that IP address ?  >  > Here's my LAN's nodes: > ! >   Toshiba PCX 2000 cable modem j > H >   Linksys BEFSR41 Router with 4-port switch : 192.168.1.1    static IPI >   VAXStation 4000 model 96                  : 192.168.1.96   static  IP0I >   Windows 98SE PC running LPD package       : 192.168.1.90   static  IP0I >   Windows 98SE PC DHCP client, usually      : 192.168.1.100  dynamic IP  >  >  > F > The node name, d700, is only defined on the VMS system; I did defineB > it with an alias so it would work in either upper or lower case: >  >   $ ucx show host d700 >  >        LOCAL databaser >  >   Host address    Host namet >  >   192.168.1.90    d700, D700 > % > Here's the output of lprsetup/view:a > ! >   $ run sys$system:ucx$lprsetupm >  >   UCX Printer Setup Programt > 0 >   Command  < add delete view help exit >: view >   #2 >   # LOCAL PRINTERS >   #g >   UCX$LPD_QUEUE:\r >         :lp=UCX$LPD_QUEUE:\v >         :sd=UCX$LPD_SPOOL: >   #  >   # HP 960cse Printero >   SYS$PRINT|sys$print:\@5 >           :lf=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/SYS$PRINT.LOG:\7 >           :lp=SYS$PRINT:\o >           :rm=d700:\ >           :rp=text:\0 >           :sd=/SYS$SPECIFIC/UCX_LPD/SYS$PRINT: >   #t > 0 >   Command  < add delete view help exit >: exit > D > IIRC, at one time, the print queue subdirectory had to be created  > manually; e.g. e > 5 >   $ create/dir/log SYS$SPECIFIC:[UCX_LPD.SYS$PRINT]  > 9 > but it sounds like you're not experiencing that problem- >  >   $ dir UCX$LPD_SPOOL:*.dir: > $ >   Directory SYS$SPECIFIC:[UCX_LPD] >  >   SYS$PRINT.DIR;1  >  >   Total of 1 file. >  >  $ show queue/full sys$printB >  Server queue SYS$PRINT, idle, on JRLVAX::, mounted form DEFAULTG >    /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FEED,FLAG,FORM=DEFAULT) /OWNER=[SYSTEM]eG >    /PROCESSOR=UCX$LPD_SMB /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S) /RETAIN=ERRORe > " >  $ show queue/full UCX$LPD_QUEUEF >  Server queue UCX$LPD_QUEUE, idle, on JRLVAX::, mounted form DEFAULTD >    /BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FEED,FORM=DEFAULT) /NOENABLE_GENERICI >    /OWNER=[SYSTEM] /PROCESSOR=UCX$LPD_SMB /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S)n >    /RETAIN=ERROR > ' >  $ show queue/full UCX$SMTP_JRLVAX_00 * >  Generic server queue UCX$SMTP_JRLVAX_00P >    /GENERIC=(UCX$SMTP_JRLVAX_01) /OWNER=[SYSTEM] /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S) >    /SCHEDULE=(NOSIZE)  > G > : By the way, I have the kit and documentation for Digital TCP/IP 5.0uJ > : (DEC-VAXVMS-TCPIP-V0500-9-1.PCSI), so if you send an e-mail to me withF > : a valid return e-mail address, we can talk about setting up an FTP+ > : account for you to pick it up.  Thanks!- > :  > . > I have the V5.1 version that I can send you: >  >   $ dsd dka200:[ucxa051.kit] > " >   Directory DKA200:[UCXA051.KIT] > & >   DEC-VAXVMS-TCPIP-V0501-15-1.PCSI;1? >                        53120/53120     9-FEB-2001 15:47:40.20  >   ( >   Total of 1 file, 53120/53120 blocks. >  >  > : -- Tony -- >  > Here's my email address: > J > --Jerry Leslie   leslie@clio.rice.edu  (my opinions are strictly my own); >   Note: leslie@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for emaila   --  
 Alan Adams& alan.adams@orchard-way.freeserve.co.uk http://www.nckc.org.uk/c   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:52:02 -0700 % From: Dean Woodward <deanw@rdrop.com>h) Subject: I learned about VMS from that...-( Message-ID: <3EA975C2.1060208@rdrop.com>  G There are some lessons here- maybe some of them are obvious, hopefully  ; some of them will be helpful to someone else down the road."  E I spent the week in Boston at a customer's site. The last task on my  F list was to do a clean boot (sidenote: last reboot was 220 days ago), G just as a sanity check to make sure all the upgraded software I'd been HG working on comes up cleanly so there wouldn't be any hassles when they iG brought the machines down to move them to a new server room next month.m  E Believe me when I say that when you're scheduled to leave to catch a  H plane in 30 minutes, the last thing you want to see on a booting system  console is a message likei   kernel stack error- halting   I repeated on every cluster node. As a sidenote,  in *nix-land, this error pH would probably begin with 'panic:'- apparently, VMS system managers are @ supposed to be above panic. I tried it for a bit, but it wasn't  helping... =8-Og  I My working hypothesis is that a disk block underneath some critical boot dC file went bad. Based on that, and with a clue provided by hardware hH support, I booted off the install CD and "upgraded" the OS- that got me I off the ground; then it was a matter of downloading the critical patches  I and applying them. The systems immediately came up and have been purring  H   along since. I maybe could have restored the system disk from tape as H well, but the CD was handy, and I have no idea how long my hypothetical  file was corrupt...d   What I learned:   E 0) The hitchhiker's guide was right- DON'T PANIC. OK, not much- just nI enough to get a little adrenaline flowing and the blood pumping is about f+ right- after that, settle down and *think*.a  F 1) Just because one's boss has been twiddling VMS for 15 years longer F than I have doesn't mean he's right; when we built this cluster three E years ago, I should have stuck to my guns about mirroring the system  E disk- he doesn't like to do that ("performance"), and I think that's e what bit me.  D 2) Make sure the onsite staff have access to their SOFTWARE support I info; my customer's didn't, unless the MIS manager does- and he's out on   vacation. Grrr...   H 2a) Make sure they know where distribution media is. They didn't, and I G spent a frantic 15 minutes digging through closets looking for the VMS  D kit. (Apparently, their ConDists for the past three years have been @ disappearing into the aether- they haven't gotten a single one.)  C 3) Make sure that all your critical patches are on-site somewhere-  G preferrably, on the system(s) they're applied to. It's a right PITA to  H try to load a patch onto a system that needs that patch to run it's NIC 	 properly.m  I 4) PATHWORKS may be able to transfer a file when FTP can't. I don't know d. why this is true, but I'm thankful that it is.  I 5) When possible, rolling reboots are a good way to do this- if I'd made tD sure one system could come back up cleanly before taking the others , down, I'd have saved myself a lot of stress.  ? 6) VMS rocks when it comes to "upgrade" installs- It was done, oG autogenned, and coming back to life while I was still on hold with the d+ airline trying to reschedule my flight out."  H 7) The Big Dig is beginning to be useful- it's now possible to get from H South Boston to the airport in < 15 minutes, especially if you know how I (and are willing) to drive like a Boston native. And if you're in Boston dI and got cut off by a maroon rental car w/ PA plates yesterday afternoon, 6 sorry 'bout that. ;-)c   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 07:10:34 GMTa) From: Charles Richmond <richmond@ev1.net>nQ Subject: Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopolyr' Message-ID: <3EA8FAFD.EA784A0D@ev1.net>c   CBFalconer wrote:o >  > Charles Richmond wrote:  > >i > ... snip ... > > >i@ > > For those who really liked this story, you might like a bookH > > (that has this story and many others) titled _The Devouring Fungus_.G > > It comes from circa 1990, and is full of computer folklore stories.sH > > One I particularly liked was about John Backus (of FORTRAN fame) andD > > what he found to be the reason that employees were showing up so! > > early for work every morning.e > C > That sounds vaguely familiar, but the associative memory seems to 9 > have dropped some bits or expired.  So I'll bite - why?w > ? There was a pretty young lady in the apartment house next door.t> Every morning, she would exercise in the nude, and was visible= through her window. The workers got there early so they couldo
 see her...   --B +----------------------------------------------------------------+B |   Charles and Francis Richmond     richmond at plano dot net   |B +----------------------------------------------------------------+   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 07:33:12 GMTe* From: genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko)Q Subject: Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopolyT- Message-ID: <3ea8cf75.45733266@news.ocis.net>   ( CBFalconer <cbfalconer@yahoo.com> wrote:   >Charles Richmond wrote: >> s
 >... snip ...d >> >? >> For those who really liked this story, you might like a booksG >> (that has this story and many others) titled _The Devouring Fungus_.dF >> It comes from circa 1990, and is full of computer folklore stories.G >> One I particularly liked was about John Backus (of FORTRAN fame) andaC >> what he found to be the reason that employees were showing up soa  >> early for work every morning. > B >That sounds vaguely familiar, but the associative memory seems to8 >have dropped some bits or expired.  So I'll bite - why?  @      Is it the old joke of still being in from the night before?  
 Sincerely,   Gene Wirchenko  ' Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation:e      I have preferences.      You have biases.a      He/She has prejudices.o   ------------------------------  ! Date: Fri, 25 Apr 03 08:47:57 GMT  From: jmfbahciv@aol.com Q Subject: Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopolys+ Message-ID: <b8b3dg$73h$5@bob.news.rcn.net>i  , In article <3ea830fc$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>,*    "Bob  Lail" <robert.lail@hp.com> wrote:F >Before this degrades into another bash HP for not providing a way to  report >security issues,   < [surprised emoticon here]  I'm not bashing HP nor did I have< any intention of bashing HP (they're still on probation from, my POV w.r.t. how good they're going to be).  @ I'm looking at the part of the world that has been infected with< PC-itis and the clunky thinking that seems to be going along with it.   /BAH  ' Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.-   ------------------------------  ! Date: Fri, 25 Apr 03 08:44:48 GMTl From: jmfbahciv@aol.com.Q Subject: Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopoly-+ Message-ID: <b8b37k$73h$4@bob.news.rcn.net>-  - In article <b88ug9$mie$1@f04n12.cac.psu.edu>,r<    hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins) wrote:H >In article <b862k1$d4r$2@bob.news.rcn.net>,  <jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote:- >>In article <b86053$dls$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>,"1 >>   david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) wrote:I >rI >>>You tell them that there is a serious problem with xxxx and that they - mustJ >>>apply this fix but you do NOT go into the exact details of the problem  and  >>inI >>>particular you DO NOT (as many of the security lists unfortunately do)-! >>>publicise an example exploit. O >3? >>No, sir.  If I tell you to do something because I said it was-> >>good for you and you do it, then you're a fool....especially= >>if it has to do with software.  The guys I worked with wereO= >>bit gods; one of the reasons they were bit gods was because-= >>they didn't trust what they did without testing.  They also-> >>knew that a patch that works in the first 10 systems may not> >>work with the 11th.  The code at addr+FORVAL(T2) is not the / >>same physical memory location on all systems.- >-E >>Our customers knew better than to just blindly patch an executable.S >t2 >Ahh, but when a bit god tells you to, should you? >- >:)-   <GRIN>  Smarty pants.  -  = It's a two-edged sword test.  The one's I worked with admiredO= people who thought before patching.  However, they considered-= it a PITB if somebody wanted to argue about the patch because- it wasn't elegant enough.r  = When JMF or TW were working with a customer to fix a problem, 8 the customer would take patches and apply them when told? but then, that system was already limping and the customer knew-= that errors might get made but was ready to remove or correct.= or report problems within a small wall-clock window.  It also < helped when the customer had a bit god's undevided attention w.r.t. solving the problem.   < But, in normal cases when firefighting was not invoked, if a@ bit god expected anybody to apply a patch site-unseen, he wasn'tD a bit god.  A great part of being a bit god is knowing he's fallible) and expects other people to know it, too.t  B These holier-than-thou types aren't bit gods, in my definition; we used to call them prima donnas.      /BAH     ' Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.    ------------------------------  ! Date: Fri, 25 Apr 03 08:52:38 GMT  From: jmfbahciv@aol.comaQ Subject: Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopolyd+ Message-ID: <b8b3m9$73h$6@bob.news.rcn.net>d  - In article <3ea848d0.11258991@news.ocis.net>,r.    genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) wrote:- >david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) wrote:a >e >[snip]T >!H >>You tell them that there is a serious problem with xxxx and that they  mustI >>apply this fix but you do NOT go into the exact details of the problem a and inH >>particular you DO NOT (as many of the security lists unfortunately do)  >>publicise an example exploit.  >bB >     Great.  I (and other I expect) have been receiving so-calledD >security fixes purportedly from Microsoft.  They do not go into theC >details of the vulnerabilities.  On this basis, I should run them?e >o	 >     NO!  >t1 >     "Run this program, because I tell you to."?n >y	 >     NO!t   Hear!  Hear!  :-)t  < Have you noticed what seems to be going on with this thread?= People are expecting maintenance without requiring a thinkingi: interrupt and still expect not to pay for this indulgence.8 There's something really serious going wrong in the biz.   /BAH  ' Subtract a hundred and four for e-mail.a   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:06:30 +0000 (UTC)o+ From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb)oQ Subject: Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopoly + Message-ID: <b8b4rl$1qs$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>   U In article <3ea830fc$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com>, "Bob  Lail" <robert.lail@hp.com> writes:sL >Before this degrades into another bash HP for not providing a way to reportM >security issues, check out the following url:, and note the email address on J >that web page. This email goes to the HP SSRT (Software Security ResponseK >Team) which includes the same folks who have been doing it for OpenVMS and L >Tru64 UNIX since the days when these fine OSs where the property of DigitalI >Equipment Corp. SSRT now covers ALL of HP's in house developed software.- >-6 >http://www.hp.com/country/us/eng/sftware_security.htm >-B >For those that want immediate gratification the email address is: >u >security-alert@hp.com >w
 >\Bob Lail >   4 Great. Can this information be added to the VMS Faq.  
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University F     >n >--  >Robert Lail >Solution Architecth! >Network & Service Provider Sales 1 >EMail: SRobert.Lail@hp.com   Phone: 603.884.7161o4 >( S added for Spammers remove before sending email) >o >n9 >"David Webb" <david20@alpha1.mdx.ac.uk> wrote in messager& >news:b86fm6$f9j$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk...L >> In article <jLKH9blNIshA@eisner.encompasserve.org>, Kilgallen@SpamCop.net >(Larry Kilgallen) writes:H >> >In article <b860e1$dls$2@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>, david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk >(David Webb) writes:u9 >> >> In article <IOeaQf5StnCw@eisner.encompasserve.org>,l0 >Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) writes:K >> >>>In article <b85qca$l34$3@bob.news.rcn.net>, jmfbahciv@aol.com writes:o >> >>>D >> >>>> AFAICT, the current reporting mechanisms are a shambles with >> >>>> high security problems.t >> >>>H >> >>>That is not my impression.  Security bulletins still come from theG >> >>>same fellow in Colorado who has been designated in the past to bed? >> >>>sent incoming problem reports from non-support customers.i >> >> H >> >> In these days of hobbyist systems that needs to be publicised more >fully* >> >> ie Exact contact details rather than >> >>eL >> >> "the same fellow in Colorado who has been designated in the past to be? >> >> sent incoming problem reports from non-support customers"e >> >F >> >In these days of spam, I think it unwise to post the email address. >> >of an individual without their permission. >> >C >> >But if you would trust my word for the email address, you couldtD >> >always email me when you found a problem and I would provide theG >> >address.  (If you emailed me now, I would have to find the address,e9 >> >which would waste my time if you had no problem now.)  >> >F >> >Trusting me, however, might not be a good idea, so you could emailH >> >one of the various folk from VMS Development who post here from time/ >> >to time (again, when you have the problem).l >>M >> I don't personally have any problem to raise (and since my machines are on0J >> support contract I'd use the official channels). Others without support@ >> contracts do need a simple method of reporting such problems.M >> JF Mezei wrote that he had such a problem with XDM (no auditing of invalid + >> attempts, no breakin detection/evasion).R >>I >> Although the informal approach of posting to VMS development folks whol >postnJ >> here is a reasonable solution for veterans of this newsgroup. Newcomers >will be/ >> left trying to work out who to send mail to. M >> It would be much better to have a formal reporting email address (or othernL >> method) not associated with any particular person but open to anyone with >ors >> without a support contract. >> >>
 >> David Webba >> VMS and Unix team leader3 >> CCSSt >> Middlesex Universitye >0 >d   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:25:55 +0000 (UTC)s+ From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb)-Q Subject: Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopoly2+ Message-ID: <b8b603$1un$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>-  Z In article <3ea848d0.11258991@news.ocis.net>, genew@mail.ocis.net (Gene Wirchenko) writes:- >david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) wrote:d >e >[snip]n >dL >>You tell them that there is a serious problem with xxxx and that they mustO >>apply this fix but you do NOT go into the exact details of the problem and inaH >>particular you DO NOT (as many of the security lists unfortunately do)  >>publicise an example exploit.  >vB >     Great.  I (and other I expect) have been receiving so-calledD >security fixes purportedly from Microsoft.  They do not go into theC >details of the vulnerabilities.  On this basis, I should run them?d > 	 >     NO!  >f1 >     "Run this program, because I tell you to."?y >e	 >     NO!  >  >Sincerely,e >e >Gene Wirchenkom >u  E The vendor should not normally be sending the patches to you by mail.eM They should send you the notification and tell you to download the patch fromc% the vendor's standard ftp patch site. M To guard against the vendor's ftp site having being hacked into and the patch-H being replaced with a trojan many vendors sign the executables with PGP.  < So no you do not run unsolicited executables emailed to you.  
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University    ( >Computerese Irregular Verb Conjugation: >     I have preferences.k >     You have biases. >     He/She has prejudices.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2003 09:08:36 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)eQ Subject: Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopolyo3 Message-ID: <OMTRA0LGVXRE@eisner.encompasserve.org>   Y In article <b8b603$1un$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>, david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) writes:u  G > The vendor should not normally be sending the patches to you by mail.n  9 Certainly they should.  More sensitive installations willL9 subscribe to the ECO CD rather than pulling them from the 	 Internet.   O > They should send you the notification and tell you to download the patch fromh' > the vendor's standard ftp patch site.JO > To guard against the vendor's ftp site having being hacked into and the patchwJ > being replaced with a trojan many vendors sign the executables with PGP. > > > So no you do not run unsolicited executables emailed to you.  ? Well of course email that is not cryptographically signed wouldw be inappropriate.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 10:56:41 -0400 # From: "Dan Allen" <dallen@nist.gov>e Subject: LTO (Utrium) - 2 media5: Message-ID: <JFEPKAPBPMDFDBOIANGDKEFPDDAA.dallen@nist.gov>   We are about to deploy a new Adic LTO2 tape library and I'm interested in hearing from anybody with experience/knowledge of the2 merits of the media from various manufacturers. Looks like IBM's the most expensive with Fuji and Maxell roughly 15-20% cheaper.% Anybody have any experience to share?    Tia,   Dans   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:02:02 GMTo# From: "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com>r# Subject: Re: LTO (Utrium) - 2 mediap; Message-ID: <K5cqa.5027$U17.117709@twister.tampabay.rr.com>t  J Last I knew,  VMS did not support LTO tapes.  Did something change, or are you on the wrong news group?  . "Dan Allen" <dallen@nist.gov> wrote in message4 news:JFEPKAPBPMDFDBOIANGDKEFPDDAA.dallen@nist.gov... > K > We are about to deploy a new Adic LTO2 tape library and I'm interested in.5 hearing from anybody with experience/knowledge of thegK > merits of the media from various manufacturers. Looks like IBM's the most 6 expensive with Fuji and Maxell roughly 15-20% cheaper.' > Anybody have any experience to share?y >  > Tia, >. > Dan  >  >    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:21:54 GMTa# From: "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com> ( Subject: More grumbling re VMS marketing; Message-ID: <6wbqa.4989$U17.114700@twister.tampabay.rr.com>o  E It was bad enough when they took away my DEC Direct catgalog, but thedJ software and hardware price lists were still available and very good.  ButB they were killed to.  Well, I at least still had the E-Store whichI frequently gave correct information.  Then they took that away, but I wasoI still able to get the information by calling and asking a "sales partner"-F (we lost our direct sales rep and had to rely on 3rd party resellers).  K Now,  even my 3rd party "authorized reseller" cannot get prices for me in aNJ reasonable amount of time with reasonable accuracy..  It takes me weeks toL get a price.  We are in a very active upgrade phase and we need to buy a lotK of stuff, but I can't get prices.  Every few weeks I have to put together a I list of everything I have asked for a price for in the past few weeks but.H have not received.  When I do get prices, I have to check VERY CAREFULLYL that it is correct.   Who out there can tell me what a part with the number"  K My reseller says the problem is with HP and it is only with VMS.  Do I needwJ a new reseller, or does someone at HP need to get their feces all gathered up?g   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:11:55 GMTh/ From: "Jeff Goodwin" <jgoodwin@maine.rrr-r.com>s, Subject: Re: More grumbling re VMS marketing8 Message-ID: <%ecqa.43453$5f4.32966@twister.nyroc.rr.com>  G We've purchased a fair amount of OpenVMS gear recently from Vtecinc, HPVJ Financial Services, and Pioneer and we haven't had any issues with gettingI timely, somewhat accurate quotes.  The people I deal with are all old VMSH> hands.  I personally recommend Dave Leslie of www.Vtecinc.com.   I suspect you need a new VAR.8   -Jeffn    . "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message5 news:6wbqa.4989$U17.114700@twister.tampabay.rr.com...KG > It was bad enough when they took away my DEC Direct catgalog, but therL > software and hardware price lists were still available and very good.  ButD > they were killed to.  Well, I at least still had the E-Store whichK > frequently gave correct information.  Then they took that away, but I wasoK > still able to get the information by calling and asking a "sales partner"gH > (we lost our direct sales rep and had to rely on 3rd party resellers). >WK > Now,  even my 3rd party "authorized reseller" cannot get prices for me int anL > reasonable amount of time with reasonable accuracy..  It takes me weeks toJ > get a price.  We are in a very active upgrade phase and we need to buy a lot_K > of stuff, but I can't get prices.  Every few weeks I have to put togetheri aSK > list of everything I have asked for a price for in the past few weeks but J > have not received.  When I do get prices, I have to check VERY CAREFULLYF > that it is correct.   Who out there can tell me what a part with the number"e >gH > My reseller says the problem is with HP and it is only with VMS.  Do I needL > a new reseller, or does someone at HP need to get their feces all gathered > up?c >e >y   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:52:41 GMTI# From: "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com>g, Subject: Re: More grumbling re VMS marketing; Message-ID: <ZYbqa.5025$U17.116873@twister.tampabay.rr.com>e   And another thing!!!  K Our ex-Compaq contract administrator has been "downsized".  Now there seemspJ to be no one to assist us in moving old items off the maintenance contractI and putting new things on the maintenance contract.  Our maintenance bill0L with HP is in excess of $1million per year.  You would think they would want to keep getting some of that.u    . "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message5 news:6wbqa.4989$U17.114700@twister.tampabay.rr.com...pG > It was bad enough when they took away my DEC Direct catgalog, but theCL > software and hardware price lists were still available and very good.  ButD > they were killed to.  Well, I at least still had the E-Store whichK > frequently gave correct information.  Then they took that away, but I was K > still able to get the information by calling and asking a "sales partner":H > (we lost our direct sales rep and had to rely on 3rd party resellers). >iK > Now,  even my 3rd party "authorized reseller" cannot get prices for me inp aML > reasonable amount of time with reasonable accuracy..  It takes me weeks toJ > get a price.  We are in a very active upgrade phase and we need to buy a lotxK > of stuff, but I can't get prices.  Every few weeks I have to put togethert a K > list of everything I have asked for a price for in the past few weeks but J > have not received.  When I do get prices, I have to check VERY CAREFULLYF > that it is correct.   Who out there can tell me what a part with the number"  >tH > My reseller says the problem is with HP and it is only with VMS.  Do I needL > a new reseller, or does someone at HP need to get their feces all gathered > up?e >  >  >$   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:46:06 GMTt/ From: "Jeff Goodwin" <jgoodwin@maine.rrr-r.com>7, Subject: Re: More grumbling re VMS marketing8 Message-ID: <2Lcqa.43705$5f4.41463@twister.nyroc.rr.com>  B I'll have to go along with this.  Our contract maintainer is now aJ pre-merger HP person instead of a pre-merger Compaq/Digital person.  We'veI gone from days to weeks to get a new agreement and from a few errors to at1 few items being correct.  It's very exasperating.p   -Jeffe    . "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message5 news:ZYbqa.5025$U17.116873@twister.tampabay.rr.com...- > And another thing!!! >pG > Our ex-Compaq contract administrator has been "downsized".  Now therec seemsHL > to be no one to assist us in moving old items off the maintenance contractK > and putting new things on the maintenance contract.  Our maintenance billnI > with HP is in excess of $1million per year.  You would think they wouldh want > to keep getting some of that.2 >D >s0 > "John N." <JNixon@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message7 > news:6wbqa.4989$U17.114700@twister.tampabay.rr.com...tI > > It was bad enough when they took away my DEC Direct catgalog, but theWI > > software and hardware price lists were still available and very good.o But F > > they were killed to.  Well, I at least still had the E-Store whichI > > frequently gave correct information.  Then they took that away, but In wascD > > still able to get the information by calling and asking a "sales partner"J > > (we lost our direct sales rep and had to rely on 3rd party resellers). > >dJ > > Now,  even my 3rd party "authorized reseller" cannot get prices for me in > aEK > > reasonable amount of time with reasonable accuracy..  It takes me weeks  toL > > get a price.  We are in a very active upgrade phase and we need to buy a > lotkD > > of stuff, but I can't get prices.  Every few weeks I have to put together > a I > > list of everything I have asked for a price for in the past few weeksh but L > > have not received.  When I do get prices, I have to check VERY CAREFULLYH > > that it is correct.   Who out there can tell me what a part with the	 > number"t > >pJ > > My reseller says the problem is with HP and it is only with VMS.  Do I > needE > > a new reseller, or does someone at HP need to get their feces all< gathered > > up?l > >t > >i > >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 15:46:09 +0100 0 From: "Dave Cubitt" <david@ccagroupDOMAIN.co.uk> Subject: MS Outlook XP & IUPOP3 4 Message-ID: <b8bhnf$k40$1$830fa78d@news.demon.co.uk>  J Does anybody know why I get copies of my mail left on the server whether IA leave the "Leave a copy of messages on the server" ticked or not.t  I It only started doing this when I upgraded to office XP. All other PCs ataL site do the same for Win XP , outlook XP also, but work correctly for office 2000/win 2000 etc.  6 We are running vms on an Alpha with IUPOP3 and mx v5.3  H It really hurts our storage space on the alpha as our management seem to3 enjoy file sharing by sending emails to each other.l   Any help appreciated.    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 12:48:18 -0300F, From: Ben Armstrong <BArmstrong@dymaxion.ca>? Subject: OpenVMS Freeware 6 CD, new Ghostscript to be included?=3 Message-ID: <6Ncqa.47891$cB3.353136@nnrp1.uunet.ca>u  B Back in February on comp.os.vms, Hoff Hoffman posted this call for- submissions for the next OpenVMS Freeware CD:E  F http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=b1uu7d%24cp1%241%40web1.cup.hp.com  G I would like to know if anyone here has a new version of Ghostscript torD include.  I see from the Ghostscript site that the latest version isI offered for Unix & VMS, but it is all in source kit form.  I fear that ityK will take me far more time and energy than I can spare to get it all up andXI running, and that I will therefore have to live with the current problemseK I'm having with Ghostscript 6.50 until Ghostscript 8.x is available in moreo convenient binary kit form.   L If you're involved in producing or know the whereabouts of a binary kit of aJ version of Ghostscript more recent than 6.50, I'd be interested in hearing	 from you.   I I'll be emailing the OpenVMS Freeware project directly with this query as0 well.b   Thanks,  BenT -- -G       Ben Armstrong                -.       Medianet Development Group,yE       BArmstrong@dymaxion.ca         `-.    Dymaxion Research Limited H       <URL: http://www.dymaxion.ca/>    `-  Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 18:45:28 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> ? Subject: OpenVMS Freeware 6 CD, new Ghostscript to be included?w; Message-ID: <01KV5K2KEPG8A9SJ2F@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>t  I > I would like to know if anyone here has a new version of Ghostscript to F > include.  I see from the Ghostscript site that the latest version isH > offered for Unix & VMS, but it is all in source kit form.  I fear thatI > it will take me far more time and energy than I can spare to get it alliI > up and running, and that I will therefore have to live with the currentgD > problems I'm having with Ghostscript 6.50 until Ghostscript 8.x is0 > available in more convenient binary kit form.   F Having wrestled with GhostScript in the past, I know the feeling.  By H the way, what is the status of GV?  I found (several years ago) that it  worked better for me on VMS.  D Actually, I think all "free software" should come with source code, F object files and executables.  The source files for those who want to C look at them, modify them, compile them with optimisation for some sG specific architecture etc.  Executables for the "out-of-the-box" folks.iH Object files for folks who want things to work "out of the box" but who # might have to link for RTL reasons.h  F It would also be nice if all free packages not only built quickly and > easily, but also had a common structure.  Here are my minimum 
 requirements:i  D    o  Everything is in one ZIP file which, when unpacked, creates a -       directory including the version number.   D    o  There are COMPILE_AND_LINK.COM, LINK.COM and DEFINE.COM, with F       these names.  The first two are obvious from the above comments.B       DEFINE.COM will define the appropriate symbol(s), taking the@       architecture into account (as the other two do as well).    F    o  If there is a VMS HELP file, BOOKREADER documentation etc (whichF       there should be), there should be a one-time initialisation fileB       with appropriate options (where to put the books, whether toD       integrate the file into the main HELP or as a separate libraryF       or into a "third-party help library" etc).  There should also beD       a startup file to be called at boot time (defining system-wide!       logicals etc) if necessary.0  A    o  It doesn't matter what is the default directory when these ID       procedures are executed: all will work and the results will be       exactly the same.r  I A lot of packages already (almost) follow these rules.  It would be nice oI if all followed them exactly, or rather followed some agreed-upon set of i rules.   ------------------------------   Date: 25 APR 2003 17:55:48 GMT+ From: Dave Greenwood <greenwoodde@ornl.gov> C Subject: Re: OpenVMS Freeware 6 CD, new Ghostscript to be included? 2 Message-ID: <25APR03.17554852@feda01.fed.ornl.gov>  D In a previous article, Ben Armstrong <BArmstrong@dymaxion.ca> wrote:D > Back in February on comp.os.vms, Hoff Hoffman posted this call for/ > submissions for the next OpenVMS Freeware CD:R >   H > http://groups.google.ca/groups?selm=b1uu7d%24cp1%241%40web1.cup.hp.com >   I > I would like to know if anyone here has a new version of Ghostscript toLF > include.  I see from the Ghostscript site that the latest version isK > offered for Unix & VMS, but it is all in source kit form.  I fear that itCM > will take me far more time and energy than I can spare to get it all up and K > running, and that I will therefore have to live with the current problemsrM > I'm having with Ghostscript 6.50 until Ghostscript 8.x is available in more] > convenient binary kit form.  >  /N > If you're involved in producing or know the whereabouts of a binary kit of aL > version of Ghostscript more recent than 6.50, I'd be interested in hearing > from you.h    anon ftp to mvb.saic.comd   cd pcsi_kits/ghostscript-v0700/  -  Not v8.x but at least it's newer than v6.50.n   Dave --------------9 Dave Greenwood                Email: Greenwoodde@ORNL.GOV0H Oak Ridge National Lab        %STD-W-DISCLAIMER, I only speak for myself   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2003 10:38:42 -0700* From: morrisj@epsilon3.com (Jay E. Morris)2 Subject: Re: OpenVMS Hobbyist Portal Press Release= Message-ID: <8600a73e.0304250938.19734dfe@posting.google.com>o  u "Ken Farmer" <kfarmer@NOSPAM.openvms.org> wrote in message news:<uTcpa.34918$ij4.2184187@twister.southeast.rr.com>...A$ > I like it the way I have it Larry. > N > But...I went ahead and added it to the stylesheet.  Links should turn purple> > now after being clicked on.  Would you prefer another color? >  > -- > Kenneth Farmer <>< > http://www.OpenVMS.org   Puce..   (Hi-ya Ken!)   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2003 08:55:01 -07001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris)lJ Subject: OpenVMS Strategy and Directions 2003, June 25-26, Ottawa, Ontario= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0304250755.7e05e017@posting.google.com>e  K I received this announcement from the Canadian Association of Compaq Users:s ---r Dear Fellow Members,  H We are pleased to announce that registration is now open for the OpenVMS< Strategy and Directions 2003 technical seminar!  The two-dayH information-packed seminar will be held on June 25th and 26th in Ottawa,J Ontario!  The speakers for the seminar will include product developers and) engineers from HP's OpenVMS organization.e  I Seminar Agenda - Visit http://www.canacu.org and click 'Seminar Pages' ordJ the small seminar logo for up to date information regarding the agenda for the full two-days.  F Seminar Registration - Register early and secure your seat - click theL "Seminar Registration" link and follow the online registration instructions.  G If you have not done so already, make sure to block these dates on youruG calendar and bookmark this Web page as new and updated information willf* continue to be added to the seminar pages!  I Spread the word by forwarding the URL link to your friends and colleagues J and let them know about the opportunity to attend the technical seminar to/ be delivered by the OpenVMS experts themselves!n  > I look forward to meeting my fellow members in Ottawa in June!   See you there!  
 Best Regards,h   Dave Wilson, President$ Canadian Association of Compaq Users events<at>canacu<dot>org   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2003 06:01:37 -0700, From: vinit.adya@mizuhocbus.com (Vinit Adya) Subject: Re: Oracle & OpenVMS = Message-ID: <eb8f4d7b.0304250501.180945d7@posting.google.com>   q JimStrehlow@data911.com (Jim Strehlow) wrote in message news:<4b6ec350.0304240845.1336693a@posting.google.com>...t3 > insomnee_a@yahoo.co.uk (rob) wrote in message ...eI > > We have a number of Oracle 7.3.4.3 and Oracle 8.0.5.0.1 databases andRF > > would like to upgrade from our current version of OpenVMS 7.2-1 on9 > > Alpha to the latest version in our posession, v7.3-1.o >  > G > We run Oracle 8.0.5.1 and 8.1.7.4 currently on OpenVMS v7.2-1 throughg > v7.31 > We have loaded many OpenVMS and Oracle patches.yF > (We also have some Oracle on Windows 2000 and use Hummingbird NFS to > share data( > between Oracle on Windows and OpenVMS) > F > 1) We still get questions answered to problems via Metalink on v8.x;) > but Oracle "prefers" getting us to v9.xa > C > 2) consider OpenVMS SYSGEN VCC_FLAGS = 2 after loading the proper 6 > OpenVMS patches for better OpenVMS memory management > C > 3) I believe you need to load Oracle v9.x onto an ODS-5 disk that G > allows mixed-case file names for java and other capabilities. KnowingwE > that in advance, you may want to place your new Oracle v8.x onto anyF > ODS-5 disk in advance (if you have other disks besides a system disk > in a RAID array.)    Just a word of caution!lB ODS5 is *NOT* supported on Oracle 8.x Its support starts only from Oracle 9 Release 2 onwards.!   > F > 4) When installing Oracle, I try to use an OpenVMS username with theB > least amount of login.com activity. I have had to reinstall someH > versions of Oracle when Oracle "got confused" due to some pre-existing/ > "shop standards" for ORA_SID and LNK$LIBRARY*n > G > 5) If you have OpenVMS OCI applications that access Oracle, we neededrA > to increase OpenVMS user quotas such as /PGFLQUOTA= 1000000 and2 > /BYTLM= 1500000  >  > Jim Strehlow, www.Data911.comd > Alameda, CA, USA   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 03:51:18 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> Subject: OT: killfile updatese) Message-ID: <3EA8E8F6.52B87E73@istop.com>   M All the people who have me killfiled should update their killfile with my new 
 email adress.a   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 07:40:17 GMT90 From: "labadie" <en_trajectant_a_mort@127.0.0.1>2 Subject: Re: Question on logical name PSM$ANNOUNCE0 Message-ID: <BD5qa.402$YS5.200@news.cpqcorp.net>  A "Bradford J. Hamilton" <brad@.gateway.2wire.net> wrote in messagei7 news:XGXpa.74794$gK.178194@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net...t5 > In article <2VUCibUxmujP@eisner.encompasserve.org>,e  briggs@encompasserve.org writes:B > >In article <OF04A33837.71CAE16B-ON85256D12.006A6379@metso.com>, norm.raphael@metso.com writes: > >>: > >> Thanks, now where is it in the documentation, please? > >lH > >Well, the third hit on Yahoo with a search string of VMS PSM$ANNOUNCE > >is: > >-J > >http://www.itec.suny.edu/scsys/vms/OVMSDOC073/V73/6017/6017pro_060.html > >| > > John Briggs- >-I > That's funny - when you use the search function provided on the hp page-J > (openvms.compaq.com/doc) and attempt to search for PSM, you only get two hits -E > the Utility Routines Manual and the System Messages Companion Guidev Manual.n >lK > Searching for PSM$ANNOUNCE, and all its variations (uppercase, lowercase,y, > quoted, non-quoted) yields no hits at all.    Hello  # For searching in the Vms doc, I usel$ http://pi-net.dyndns.org/search.html  ( It works fine, at least for my searches.   regardsT   grard   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2003 07:25:42 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)c2 Subject: Re: Question on logical name PSM$ANNOUNCE3 Message-ID: <b+egOFhtNYZW@eisner.encompasserve.org>y  ^ In article <OFA6AF0B89.14B41132-ON85256D12.005D5D05@metso.com>, norm.raphael@metso.com writes: > 6 > Question on logical name PSM$ANNOUNCE (/SYSTEM/EXEC) > G > I have this on my system and it changes the text in the middle of the,@ > top and bottom "ribbons" on the flag/burst page when printing. > ; > Is this an OpenVMS construct or something added by a pastrD > system manager?  I suspect it is standard, but I could not find itF > in the online documentation (which does not mean it's not in there).  D    It was new in VMS 4.0, and documented in the release notes there.A    So it is a standard part of VMS.  Try looking in the doc set'sc    global index.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 06:43:30 -0400f* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>' Subject: Setting MTU for TCPIP servicesI) Message-ID: <3EA91146.27275827@istop.com>t  D Since I am switching from cable to adsl with taht pesky PPPoE, it is2 recommended I set the MTU to 1452 instead of 1500.  F I know I can use  $ifconfig se0 ipmtu 1452 to change this dynamically.  H However, is there a way to change this permanently so that it is enabled3 automatically upon system reboot or stack restart ?a  M What would be the recomended place to add the ipconfig command to set the MTU 7 down to 1452  automatically upon reboot/stack startup ?l  K Also, is there such a thing as MTU discovery for the TCPIP Services V5.3 on4 VAX ?./ If so, does it need to be enabled in some way ?h  K If I set my router to have an MTU of 1452, but leave the VMS hosts at 1500,vN what will happen ? will they negotiate down to 1452 when talking to the routerK (and internet beyond that) but still talk at 1500 between themselves on ther lan ?o  L My old macs are supposed to have MTU discovery. Will they negotiate with the) VMS hosts if I set VMS toa lower number ?n   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 11:24:42 GMTo4 From: brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton)+ Subject: Re: Setting MTU for TCPIP servicesd. Message-ID: <_V8qa.616363$L1.174884@sccrnsc02>  V In article <3EA91146.27275827@istop.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes:E >Since I am switching from cable to adsl with taht pesky PPPoE, it isd3 >recommended I set the MTU to 1452 instead of 1500.- >>G >I know I can use  $ifconfig se0 ipmtu 1452 to change this dynamically.  > I >However, is there a way to change this permanently so that it is enabledt4 >automatically upon system reboot or stack restart ?  F It's been awhile since I used TCPIP Services; unless I'm mistaken, theN recommendation is to stick the ipconfig command (as well as the incantation to6 allow those commands to appear) in TCPIP$SYSTARTUP.COM   >tN >What would be the recomended place to add the ipconfig command to set the MTU8 >down to 1452  automatically upon reboot/stack startup ? <snip>  A _________________________________________________________________u0 Bradford J. Hamilton			"All opinions are my own"/ bMradAhamiPltSon@atMtAbi.cPoSm		"Lose the MAPS"h   ------------------------------  + Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 16:42:04 +0100 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>s+ Subject: Re: Setting MTU for TCPIP servicesu; Message-ID: <01KV5GDNW12QAKTJN8@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>o  F > Since I am switching from cable to adsl with that pesky PPPoE, it is4 > recommended I set the MTU to 1452 instead of 1500.   Why the switch?e  H > I know I can use  $ifconfig se0 ipmtu 1452 to change this dynamically.  8 Shame on you, VMS TCPIP engineering, for not providing a/ VMS-look-and-feel version of this command!  :-)   G > If I set my router to have an MTU of 1452, but leave the VMS hosts at-J > 1500, what will happen? will they negotiate down to 1452 when talking toF > the router (and internet beyond that) but still talk at 1500 between > themselves on the lan? D  F This is (similar to?) the situation I have at the moment: 1492 on the I LINKSYS router (are you sure you want 1452 and not 1492 (1500 - 8)?) and . 1500 on the VMS machines.e  H I haven't actually noticed any problems with this.  Well, perhaps there - are some unnoticed problems due to this.  :-|y   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 14:36:33 GMTr& From: jlsue <jefflsxxxz@sbcglobal.net>4 Subject: Re: Suddenly, Tomcat won't startup any more8 Message-ID: <5keiavgu5vpmj2afa2tiun94g18kuknpuo@4ax.com>  G On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 18:22:39 +0200, Hans Aus <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de>  wrote:  J >I've looked in  (most of) those files but didn't find anything definite. H >I'm at home and will look again tomorrow. The only thing I found was a D >statement that Tomcat had aborted (stopped, terminated) abnormally. >n  @ Have you tried looking at Accounting information for the processI termination?  Quite often the final status will be recorded there as part F of the process run-down.  use ACCOUNTING/FULL/ID= (or do it by process name).   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2003 06:09:07 -0700, From: vinit.adya@mizuhocbus.com (Vinit Adya) Subject: Re: Testx< Message-ID: <eb8f4d7b.0304250509.e16abf7@posting.google.com>   Test   ------------------------------    Date: 24 Apr 2003 23:51:35 -0700! From: jude.malar@lycos.com (jude)1 Subject: Re: Thread Scheduling= Message-ID: <ac82ff94.0304242251.69c1a0a6@posting.google.com>o    It's on Alpha, VMS version 7.2-1  g "Ruslan R. Laishev" <Laishev@StarLet.SPB.RU> wrote in message news:<3EA833A8.2080105@StarLet.SPB.RU>...  > VAX, Alpha ?" >   Linked with KERNEL & UPCALLS ? > 
 > jude wrote:h
 > > Hello, > > * > >     I am facing one strange problem . E > > My application has two process . The second process is creating afG > > thread and it is executing ,a subroutine which does synchronous I/O H > > and it waits on a mutex conditional variable  . At the same time theJ > > second process  is also executing a synchronous I/O call .  This pointJ > > the created thread is going into running state and  the second process > > thread is in ready state .I > >    I couldn't able to understand the reason , of thread blocking .   R > > Can anyone explain . > >     
 > > --jude > >P   ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2003 13:44:41 GMTa/ From: "Jeff Goodwin" <jgoodwin@maine.rrr-r.com>o( Subject: Re: Unwanted Broadcast messages7 Message-ID: <dZaqa.43156$5f4.4211@twister.nyroc.rr.com>u  C I looked at our startup procedures and for our LTA devices, we had:S  A $! Set at least NOBROADCAST for ALL LAT application ports to keepaC $! broadcast messages from being sent from systems where the device> $! has not been allocated. $!/ $ Set Terminal /Permanent /NoBroadcast LTAxxxx:( ...   J It would seem the "No Broadcast" characteristic you have set would correct this.o  G At our site, we have multiple LTA devices spooled to a single executionsL queue.  An application we have copies to printers, so we need to provide LTAI devices that know about various print formatting.  Make sure you have "NolK Broadcast" set on all LTA devices the printer may use and, if clustered, on 
 all nodes.   -Jeffo    ) -----------------------------------------h1 "John Hayes" <hayes1966@cox.net> wrote in messagef4 news:xJVpa.149949$It5.53565@news2.central.cox.net...G I have a terminal server running with terminal and printers on it. WhentJ system shuts down it broadcasts messages to printers even though broadcast" disabled on the port and terminal.   Terminal Characteristics:lE    Interactive        Echo               No Typeahead       No Escape ?    No Hostsync        TTsync             Lowercase          Tab>G    No Wrap            Hardcopy           No Remote          No EightbitrC    No Broadcast       No Readsync        Form               Fulldup>B    No Modem           No Local_echo      No Autobaud        HangupE    No Brdcstmbx       No DMA             No Altypeahd       Set_speednG    No Commsync        No Line Editing    Overstrike editing No FallbackoF    No Dialup          No Secure server   No Disconnect      No PasthruK    No Syspassword     No SIXEL Graphics  No Soft Characters No Printer Port'I    Numeric Keypad     No ANSI_CRT        No Regis           No Block_modeaG    No Advanced_video  No Edit_mode       No DEC_CRT         No DEC_CRT2 I    No DEC_CRT3        No DEC_CRT4        No DEC_CRT5        No Ansi_Colore    VMS Style Input $      Any idea what I am missing ?   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Apr 2003 01:57:42 -0700$ From: chaudry@gaby.de (Gaby Chaudry)- Subject: Vintage Computer Festival Europe 4.0o= Message-ID: <583c9250.0304250057.5f541674@posting.google.com>e  $ Vintage Computer Festival Europe 4.0$ May 3 and 4, 2003 in Munich, Germany  @ The fourth annual European Vintage Computer Festival awaits you!  H Our mission is to encourage the preservation of obsolete computer hard- E and software, to promote interest in researching and documenting the  G history of the computer age ... and to have fun playing with old iron. a  F The Vintage Computer Festival is already a fixed entry in the Silicon H Valley timetable. Now it has also become an European event, celebrating  our computer heritage.  E Let us return to those thrilling days of yesteryear, when geeks were d' geeks and floppies were really floppy. e    
 Exhibition  B Dozens of old (but still not obsolete) computers to be viewed and I touched. No barrier between you and your dreams.. (It may be a good idea t5 to ask the exhibitor before dismanteling his unit :)     Speeches  G A series of speeches will be given to describe some systems in detail, .I discuss classic developments from today's perspective or other topics of p interest to collectors.   H There will also be a VCFe-Excursion to a hands on life demonstration of # a real classic big number cruncher.    Flea Market   G No system will be ever completely debugged, so we are offering part of GA the hall to vendors to sell and trade historic gear. Anything is  D possible - as long as the item is computer related and more than 10  years old. n  " Peoples Choice Award and Give Away  F All visitors are called to vote for their favourite piece of history. @ And unlike a constitutional poll, you may even win great stuff.   , Are you ready for the NERD TRIVIA CHALLENGE?  E The Nerd Trivia Challenge is your chance to prove just how much of a n@ geek you really are. You're pitted against two other nerds in a F game-show style contest of computer history trivia. If you end up the I Alpha Geek, you'll walk away with fame (and a great price). Think you're a up to the challenge?  H ------------------------------------------------------------------------   Where?  # Mehrzweckhalle des ESV Muenchen Ost. Baumkirchner Strasse 57D 81673 Munich Germanye     Further Informationa   VCFe Web Site: http://www.vcfe.org/   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.228 ************************