1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 30 Apr 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 238       Contents: RE: ADDENDUM: Keyboard ? Re: ADDENDUM: Keyboard ?* Alpha FX32 could be itanium 32 bit kludge?. Re: Alpha FX32 could be itanium 32 bit kludge? Re: Bug in f$search + Re: Configuring FTP service On Open VMS 7.1 + Re: Configuring FTP service On Open VMS 7.1 + Re: Configuring FTP service On Open VMS 7.1 & Re: Crocodile hunter to the rescue !!!- Re: DCL question - null byte in string symbol 3 Re: Does anyone have Perfect Disk 6.0 - 6.2 manuals * dual operating system Unix tru64 & OpenVMS. Re: dual operating system Unix tru64 & OpenVMS Faxing from OpenVMS  Re: Faxing from OpenVMS  Re: Faxing from OpenVMS  Re: Faxing from OpenVMS  Re: Faxing from OpenVMS  Faxing from VMS  Re: Faxing from VMS  Re: Faxing from VMS  Re: Faxing from VMS * Re: For European hobbyists with a DS10 ...* Re: For European hobbyists with a DS10 ...* Re: For European hobbyists with a DS10 ...3 Re: Gartner: HP is #1 vendor of servers for Q1 2003  Re: Help with Vest9 Re: HELP: Running Out Of Vitrual Memory When Compiling... 5 HELP: SCA Traffic - Transmit Sequence Packet Timeouts ( Host based shadowing on VAX VMS v5.5-2h4/ HP's enterprise strategy launch webcast - May 6 H Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopolyP Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopoly monopol8 Re: Itanium Madison blasts Sun, IBM in encryption specs!8 Re: Itanium Madison blasts Sun, IBM in encryption specs!8 Re: Itanium Madison blasts Sun, IBM in encryption specs!8 Re: Itanium Madison blasts Sun, IBM in encryption specs!8 Re: Itanium Madison blasts Sun, IBM in encryption specs!  Re: Johnny English is a VMS user  Re: Johnny English is a VMS user6 List VMS fonts (was: Re: Johnny English is a VMS user) Re: Modem on Decserver New sun sparkies a bust ... & Re: Not entirely OT: RSHELL to Solaris& Re: Not entirely OT: RSHELL to Solaris6 Re: OpenVMS Itanium port progressing well says Gorham!& OT: Crocodile hunter to the rescue !!!1 Question About Safely Changing File Attributes... 5 RE: Question About Safely Changing File Attributes... 5 Re: Question About Safely Changing File Attributes... 5 Re: Question About Safely Changing File Attributes... ) Re: Random access to the TZ89 tape system  Re: RZ26-B in the real world Re: stupid keyboard question RE: stupid keyboard question Re: stupid keyboard question Re: stupid keyboard question RE: stupid keyboard question terminal printer Re: Upgrade Query - URGENT HELP REQD. : Problem in Ingres session  [GOOGLE] Missing article ? Re: [GOOGLE] Missing article ? Re: [GOOGLE] Missing article ? Re: [GOOGLE] Missing article ?  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:05:08 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> ! Subject: RE: ADDENDUM: Keyboard ? 9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKEIDHBAA.tom@kednos.com>   . It did, but it did not restart the keyboard.     >-----Original Message----- / >From: Carl Perkins [mailto:carl@gerg.tamu.edu] & >Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:19 PM >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com" >Subject: RE: ADDENDUM: Keyboard ? >  > ( >"Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes...A >}Well I know hot to kill it, but how to restart it?  Looking at  
 >the system I  >}have the following runningH >}204000A4 DECW$SERVER_0   HIB      8     2126   0 00:04:09.22       683 >}874 H >}204000A9 DECW$SESSION    LEF      6     1864   0 00:00:09.14      3120 >}912 H >}204000AB DECW$TE_00AB    LEF      6      464   0 00:02:42.04      2072 >}921 H >}204000AE DECW$MWM        LEF      4      433   0 00:00:05.27      1837 >}537  > $ >$ @sys$manager:decw$startup restart > 3 >This will both shut it down and start it up again.  > 	 >--- Carl  >  >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). A >Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 4/24/2003  >  --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).@ Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 4/24/2003   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:37:03 GMT 9 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com> ! Subject: Re: ADDENDUM: Keyboard ? . Message-ID: <PYSra.78$Ph1.72@news.cpqcorp.net>  J The KB *is* hot pluggable.  If the leds do not flash when you power it up,
 it's dead.    . "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> wrote in message3 news:CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKEIDHBAA.tom@kednos.com... . > It did, but it did not restart the keyboard. >  > >-----Original Message----- 1 > >From: Carl Perkins [mailto:carl@gerg.tamu.edu] ( > >Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 9:19 PM > >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com$ > >Subject: RE: ADDENDUM: Keyboard ? > >  > > * > >"Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com> writes...B > >}Well I know hot to kill it, but how to restart it?  Looking at > >the system I  > >}have the following runningJ > >}204000A4 DECW$SERVER_0   HIB      8     2126   0 00:04:09.22       683 > >}874 J > >}204000A9 DECW$SESSION    LEF      6     1864   0 00:00:09.14      3120 > >}912 J > >}204000AB DECW$TE_00AB    LEF      6      464   0 00:02:42.04      2072 > >}921 J > >}204000AE DECW$MWM        LEF      4      433   0 00:00:05.27      1837 > >}537  > > & > >$ @sys$manager:decw$startup restart > > 5 > >This will both shut it down and start it up again.  > >  > >--- Carl  > >  > >---) > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. = > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). C > >Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 4/24/2003  > >  > --- ( > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.< > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).B > Version: 6.0.476 / Virus Database: 273 - Release Date: 4/24/2003 >    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 10:20:42 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)3 Subject: Alpha FX32 could be itanium 32 bit kludge? = Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0304300920.453cb936@posting.google.com>    interesting ...   ( http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9175   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:29:40 -0700 + From: "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> 7 Subject: Re: Alpha FX32 could be itanium 32 bit kludge? ' Message-ID: <3EB00804.2010403@MMaz.com>    Bob Ceculski wrote:    >interesting ... > ) >http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9175  >    > 6 And it will probably be as successful of a band-aid...   Barry    --    @ Barry Treahy, Jr  *  Midwest Microwave  *  Vice President & CIO   A E-mail: Treahy@mmaz.com * Phone: 480/314-1320 * FAX: 480/661-7028    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 09:52:01 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> Subject: Re: Bug in f$search5 Message-ID: <20030430095201.2615.qmail@gacracker.org>   6 On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Rob Brown <brown@gmcl.com> wrote:  E >I also note that you are not specifying ";*" in your F$SEARCH calls.   K Yup, I was aware of that. I'd rather have had the original poster come back + about that one than zap more than intended.      Doc. --  6 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.K ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.                             https://vmsbox.cjb.net K                                                    http://althacker.cjb.net    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:09:32 +0000 (UTC) + From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) 4 Subject: Re: Configuring FTP service On Open VMS 7.1+ Message-ID: <b8oatb$ioq$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>   l In article <20030429203613.9928.qmail@gacracker.org>, Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:E >On Tue, 29 Apr 2003, eplan@langstoeger.at (Peter LANGSTOEGER) wrote: C >>In article <20030429090953.19211.qmail@gacracker.org>, Doc.Cypher - >><Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:  > @ >>>I'm afraid the semi-sensible Compaq URLs cannot be relied on. >>L >>I think, you can rely on them, more than you can on the hXY000.wwwZ.hp.com > J >If you take http://www.openvms.compaq.com and ask Lynx to retrieve it and" >log errors you get the following: > , >   URL=http://www.openvms.compaq.com/ (GET)' >STATUS=HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently  ( >   URL=http://h71000.www7.hp.com/ (GET) >STATUS=HTTP/1.1 200 OK  > K >>>These are the URLs the above redirect to, at least for the time being...  >>" >>as you write "the time being..." > J >Yes, I'm not particularly impressed with these ugly looking things. I canB >just imagine the http://bonzo.da-da.hp.com URL getting changed toC >http://bonzo.do-da.hp.com and the redirects being forgotten about.  > D >I also wonder if HP have embraced VMS the same way they have Linux. > : >After all, http://www.linux.hp.com works. Whereas none of2 >http://www.openvms.hp.com, http://www.vms.hp.com,8 >http://www.hp.com/openvms, or http://www.hp.com/vms do. >   N Well I was pleasantly surprised by the VMS presence at the HP stand at Infosec2 yesterday (London,  Olympia 29th April - 1st May).F Leo Demer's who works on the VMS security products -  OPENSSL, SSH etcL was there and a number of the advertised talk sessions on the HP stand were 
 about VMS.  
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 12:53:03 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>4 Subject: Re: Configuring FTP service On Open VMS 7.15 Message-ID: <20030430125303.7836.qmail@gacracker.org>   A On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) wrote: A >In article <20030429203613.9928.qmail@gacracker.org>, Doc.Cypher , ><Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:  ; >>After all, http://www.linux.hp.com works. Whereas none of 3 >>http://www.openvms.hp.com, http://www.vms.hp.com, 9 >>http://www.hp.com/openvms, or http://www.hp.com/vms do.   O >Well I was pleasantly surprised by the VMS presence at the HP stand at Infosec 3 >yesterday (London,  Olympia 29th April - 1st May). G >Leo Demer's who works on the VMS security products -  OPENSSL, SSH etc M >was there and a number of the advertised talk sessions on the HP stand were   >about VMS.   K That's good to hear, but there is a need to raise awareness of VMS with the  people who control the budgets.   < Any chance of someone uploading photos showing the HP stand?     Doc. --  6 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.K ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.                             https://vmsbox.cjb.net K                                                    http://althacker.cjb.net    ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:20:03 +0000 (UTC) + From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) 4 Subject: Re: Configuring FTP service On Open VMS 7.1+ Message-ID: <b8of1j$j87$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>   l In article <20030430125303.7836.qmail@gacracker.org>, Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:B >On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) wrote:B >>In article <20030429203613.9928.qmail@gacracker.org>, Doc.Cypher- >><Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> writes:  > < >>>After all, http://www.linux.hp.com works. Whereas none of4 >>>http://www.openvms.hp.com, http://www.vms.hp.com,: >>>http://www.hp.com/openvms, or http://www.hp.com/vms do. > P >>Well I was pleasantly surprised by the VMS presence at the HP stand at Infosec4 >>yesterday (London,  Olympia 29th April - 1st May).H >>Leo Demer's who works on the VMS security products -  OPENSSL, SSH etcN >>was there and a number of the advertised talk sessions on the HP stand were  >>about VMS. > L >That's good to hear, but there is a need to raise awareness of VMS with the  >people who control the budgets. > = >Any chance of someone uploading photos showing the HP stand?  >   N Well maybe I put it a bit too strongly. The stand didn't feature any big signsI saying OpenVMS it seemed mostly geared to HP's PC products. However I was K pleased to see the sign listing the presentations being given at the stand  J had a number of presentations specifically on VMS. I spoke to Leo and also" attended one of the presentations.    
 David Webb VMS and unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:46:29 GMT ' From: "Mark E. Levy" <melevy@attbi.com> / Subject: Re: Crocodile hunter to the rescue !!! - Message-ID: <FAPra.436702$Zo.99487@sccrnsc03>   7 "JF Mezei" <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> wrote in message # news:3EAF7C48.4E52BC17@istop.com...    ...   L > What does this have to do with VMS ? Crocs, like VMS, may be old, but they are I > extremely powerful, reliable and always succeed at what they try to do.  And C > after a good meal, a Croc can go for a very long time without any  maintenance  > or other meals.   G UNlike a croc, however, VMS isn't exactly chewing up the competition...    --   Mark E. Levy" System Management Associates, Inc. www.sysman-inc.com www.openvms.com    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 08:32:49 -0400  From: norm.raphael@metso.com6 Subject: Re: DCL question - null byte in string symbol? Message-ID: <OF6C649421.4618D9AA-ON85256D18.0044DB5F@metso.com>    Alan,  You're welcome!  ;-) -Norm   F From:  spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) on 04/29/2003 10:39 PM  : Please respond to spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman)   To:    Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com cc:   9 Subject:    Re: DCL question - null byte in string symbol    [snip]  B I never tried null characters though! Thanks to this thread, now I know about them too! Thanks!   [...]    Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:52:53 -0400 ! From: Jim Agnew <jpagnew@vcu.edu> < Subject: Re: Does anyone have Perfect Disk 6.0 - 6.2 manuals' Message-ID: <3EAFE345.736FB702@vcu.edu>   E Lemme look... I do have 6.1, and it runs wonderfully... really one of # the best packages i've ever seen...    Vic Mendham wrote: > H > I have tried to get old Perfect disks 6.0 manuals from Raxco, but theyA > only have the latest. Does anyone have these in HTML of PDF for 
 > OpenVMS? > 	 > Regards  >  > c00per11242001@yahoo.ca    --  F "4,000 years ago I made a mistake."  Elrond Half-Elven, in "Fellowship of the Ring"   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 08:24:40 -0700 From: lhy8888@msn.com (Sean)3 Subject: dual operating system Unix tru64 & OpenVMS = Message-ID: <cf3962d8.0304300724.19ecd904@posting.google.com>   B We have an Alpha DS25 and want to have dual operating system (UnixB tru64 and OpenVMS). Does anybody have any idea to do it. Thank you very much for your time.   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:59:44 +0000 (UTC) + From: david20@alpha2.mdx.ac.uk (David Webb) 7 Subject: Re: dual operating system Unix tru64 & OpenVMS + Message-ID: <b8ortg$kg9$1@aquila.mdx.ac.uk>   \ In article <cf3962d8.0304300724.19ecd904@posting.google.com>, lhy8888@msn.com (Sean) writes:C >We have an Alpha DS25 and want to have dual operating system (Unix C >tru64 and OpenVMS). Does anybody have any idea to do it. Thank you  >very much for your time.   L Assuming there aren't any esoteric options (eg graphics cards) which work onL Tru64 but don't work on VMS then you just need two disks on which to installM the two OSs. (VMS needs a disk completely to itself - you can't install TRU64 2 and VMS on different partitions of a single disk).L Install VMS on one disk, Install Tru64 on the second disk. Install licenses.   To boot set the   N OS_TYPE console variable to  either UNIX or OpenVMS according to which you areO going to boot. (you may be able to get away with booting with the wrong OS_TYPE L type set ie booting VMS with OS_TYPE UNIX set i'm not sure what this console variable affects.    For UNIX   boot -fl A  unix_bootdev   For  VMS   boot -fl 0,0  vms_bootdev     
 David Webb VMS and Unix team leader CCSS Middlesex University   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:45:36 GMT & From: "John Hayes" <hayes1966@cox.net> Subject: Faxing from OpenVMS9 Message-ID: <QzPra.32126$WQ4.18603@news2.central.cox.net>    Hi,   K Has anyone developed or is using an application which allows users on a VMS L system to send a fax through a windows box with fax software on it connected: via pathworks or any other kind of faxing software for VMS   thanks in advance    John   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:01:15 +0100 ( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>  Subject: Re: Faxing from OpenVMS) Message-ID: <3EAFC91B.17DC5D1D@127.0.0.1>    John Hayes wrote:  >  > Hi,  > M > Has anyone developed or is using an application which allows users on a VMS N > system to send a fax through a windows box with fax software on it connected< > via pathworks or any other kind of faxing software for VMS   GoldFAX.   http://www.dpd.com   --  ? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences  nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:34:29 -0400  From: norm.raphael@metso.com  Subject: Re: Faxing from OpenVMS? Message-ID: <OFECDDFC22.647EF088-ON85256D18.004A93DA@metso.com>    Yup.  @ From:  Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1> on 04/30/2003 09:01 AM  4 Please respond to Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>   To:    Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com cc:   # Subject:    Re: Faxing from OpenVMS      John Hayes wrote:  >  > Hi,  > I > Has anyone developed or is using an application which allows users on a  VMS D > system to send a fax through a windows box with fax software on it	 connected < > via pathworks or any other kind of faxing software for VMS   GoldFAX.   http://www.dpd.com   --? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences  nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:22:13 +0100 0 From: Chris Sharman <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam>  Subject: Re: Faxing from OpenVMS4 Message-ID: <b8om6m$fqg$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>   John Hayes wrote:  > Hi,  > M > Has anyone developed or is using an application which allows users on a VMS N > system to send a fax through a windows box with fax software on it connected< > via pathworks or any other kind of faxing software for VMS   Goldfax is what we use too. 6 Sadly my experience is that UK support is ineffective.   Chris    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:14:32 GMT + From: "Mike Kier" <michael.kier@compaq.com>   Subject: Re: Faxing from OpenVMS. Message-ID: <IDSra.75$851.47@news.cpqcorp.net>  1 "John Hayes" <hayes1966@cox.net> wrote in message 3 news:QzPra.32126$WQ4.18603@news2.central.cox.net...  > Hi,  > I > Has anyone developed or is using an application which allows users on a  VMS D > system to send a fax through a windows box with fax software on it	 connected < > via pathworks or any other kind of faxing software for VMS >  > thanks in advance  >  > John >  > I CompuFax <http://www.networkingdynamics.com/index.htm> allows users on an K OpenVMS system to send and receive faxes directly without having to print a - document and then feed it to the fax machine.   I PageMate <http://www.system.com/main.asp> is an electronic messenger that L tracks and delivers time-critical messages using a wide variety of media andI technologies, including electronic paging, e-mail, alphanumeric displays, 9 synthesized speech, fax, and short message service (SMS).   D PMDF-FAX <http://www.process.com/index.html> an e-mail gateway thatE generates and automatically transmits and receives Group 3 facsimiles   G Textel/Relay <http://www.ccl.co.uk/> is a complete electronic messaging F solution that automates fax, telex, electronic data interchange (EDI),E e-mail, and text-messaging communications. This powerful, robust, and F reliable communications management system enables organizations in theH travel and leisure, financial, utilities, transportation, manufacturing,I distribution, and healthcare industries as well as government agencies to 2 send and receive documents in any format required.   hth  --  	 Mike Kier 0 Consultant, HP Consulting & Integration Services Cincinnati, OH, USA  mike.kier@hp.com  ' "Practice random acts of VMS marketing"    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:46:43 GMT & From: "John Hayes" <hayes1966@cox.net> Subject: Faxing from VMS8 Message-ID: <TAPra.32128$WQ4.5059@news2.central.cox.net>   Hi,   G Anyone know of software that would let you fax directly from VMS thru a L modem attached or intrefacing into windows faxing via pathworks or any other method.    Thanks   John   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:16:44 +0100 ! From: "Craig Cooke" <cs@dabs.com>  Subject: Re: Faxing from VMS5 Message-ID: <p87zgMyDDHA.4528@juno.intranet.dabs.com>   1 "John Hayes" <hayes1966@cox.net> wrote in message 2 news:TAPra.32128$WQ4.5059@news2.central.cox.net... > Hi,  > I > Anyone know of software that would let you fax directly from VMS thru a H > modem attached or intrefacing into windows faxing via pathworks or any other 	 > method.  >  > Thanks >  > John >  >    Hi John,   You could look at GOLDFAX ?    http://www.goldfax.co.uk/      -- Craig Cooke    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:44:34 +0100 - From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com>  Subject: Re: Faxing from VMS/ Message-ID: <vavobbqd7ljif3@corp.supernews.com>    John Hayes wrote:  > I > Anyone know of software that would let you fax directly from VMS thru a N > modem attached or intrefacing into windows faxing via pathworks or any other	 > method.    PMDF-FAX - highly recommended.  / See http://www.process.com/tcpip/pmdf_fax62.pdf   	 Roy Omond  Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 13:23:20 GMT , From: "James Gessling" <jgessling@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Faxing from VMS? Message-ID: <c7Qra.220$N87.39249979@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com>   L A company called DPD sells a thing called Goldfax for VMS. I used it severalE years ago with no problems.  Implmented as a print queue talking to a ? modem connected directly or on a terminal server.  See them at:   - http://www.gold-fax.com/products/prodmain.htm    Jim     1 "John Hayes" <hayes1966@cox.net> wrote in message 2 news:TAPra.32128$WQ4.5059@news2.central.cox.net... > Hi,  > I > Anyone know of software that would let you fax directly from VMS thru a H > modem attached or intrefacing into windows faxing via pathworks or any other 	 > method.  >  > Thanks >  > John >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 16:03:02 +0100 * From: "John Travell" <john@travell.uk.net>3 Subject: Re: For European hobbyists with a DS10 ... 5 Message-ID: <b8ooje$c40d2$1@ID-120847.news.dfncis.de>   + "Dirk Munk" <munk@home.nl> wrote in message , news:b8mrko$3v8$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...K > As you may have noticed there is a new graphics patch for VMS 7.3-1. This  patch L > allows the use of ATi Radeon 7500 graphics cards, in PCI and AGP versions. > F > The PCI version is only supported (= tested ?) on the DS10. Our good
 friends atK > HP will be glad to provide you with such a card, however their price is a  bit  > steep. > J > In the US you can get a original ATi card for about $70, so that is nice for the  > US hobbyists.  > K > We in Europe are a bit less fortunate, since ATi no longer sells graphics  cards D > in Europe. They leave the European market for other (mostly Asian)	 companies D > using their chipsets. And guess what, those companies don't bother producing a  > Radeon 7500 PCI version. > G > Ordering an original ATI card in the US is very difficult, since most  InternetB > stores don't ship outside the US, or say they do so, but make it
 impossible to I > enter an address outside the US (very clever those guys...) I found one  company L > that would ship outside the US, but the shipping costs were more then $50. > K > So I searched and searched the web untill I found a European company that  has  > such a card in its program.  > - > This is their URL: http://www.club-3d.nl/ .  > L > I ordered the card through a local PC shop, installed it in a DS10, and it works I > like a dream. I payed less then 80 Euro for it, but I also had to buy a  DVI > G > VGA adapter for 15 Euro. (the card has two ports, a primary DVI and a 	 secondary  > VGA port). > J > The card seems to be a 100% ATi clone, even the ATi brand name is on the board. > F > So if you are the happy owner of a DS10, now you know where to get a
 moderately6 > priced and quite good graphics card for your system. >   & Presumably this is model CGA-7564PTVD.L The Club-3d site provides pointers to distributors in various countries, andI I am waiting to hear back from the UK distributor if they can supply one,  and if so at what price.  K Next is the question of support. The graphics eco adds driver level support G for the card to VMS, but what we do not know is how much VMS depends on  console level support.  L If generic console code only looks for VGA support capability in a card, andH device driver selection is done by VMS startup code, it may well work inF systems other than those for which formal console support code exists.  J If VMS depends on the console to fully identify the card and will not loadG the correct driver without that console support, those of us with older J machines will (probably) not be able to upgrade our graphics capability to this more modern option.    C Hopefully someone who knows more than I do about the console and OS H interaction at boot time may care to comment on the chances of this card8 actually working, albeit unsupported, in older machines.       -- John Travell  VMS crashdump expertise for hire john@travell.uk.net  http://www.travell.uk.net/               --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 18/04/2003    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:43:19 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>3 Subject: Re: For European hobbyists with a DS10 ... 2 Message-ID: <b8or76$u2u$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   John Travell wrote: - > "Dirk Munk" <munk@home.nl> wrote in message . > news:b8mrko$3v8$1@news1.tilbu1.nb.home.nl... > K >>As you may have noticed there is a new graphics patch for VMS 7.3-1. This  >  > patch  > L >>allows the use of ATi Radeon 7500 graphics cards, in PCI and AGP versions. >>F >>The PCI version is only supported (= tested ?) on the DS10. Our good >  > friends at > K >>HP will be glad to provide you with such a card, however their price is a  >  > bit  >  >>steep. >>J >>In the US you can get a original ATi card for about $70, so that is nice > 	 > for the  >  >>US hobbyists.  >>K >>We in Europe are a bit less fortunate, since ATi no longer sells graphics  >  > cards  > D >>in Europe. They leave the European market for other (mostly Asian) >  > companies  > D >>using their chipsets. And guess what, those companies don't bother > 
 > producing a  >  >>Radeon 7500 PCI version. >>G >>Ordering an original ATI card in the US is very difficult, since most  > 
 > Internet > B >>stores don't ship outside the US, or say they do so, but make it >  > impossible to  > I >>enter an address outside the US (very clever those guys...) I found one  > 	 > company  > L >>that would ship outside the US, but the shipping costs were more then $50. >>K >>So I searched and searched the web untill I found a European company that  >  > has  >  >>such a card in its program.  >>- >>This is their URL: http://www.club-3d.nl/ .  >>L >>I ordered the card through a local PC shop, installed it in a DS10, and it >  > works  > I >>like a dream. I payed less then 80 Euro for it, but I also had to buy a  >  > DVI >  > G >>VGA adapter for 15 Euro. (the card has two ports, a primary DVI and a  >  > secondary  >  >>VGA port). >>J >>The card seems to be a 100% ATi clone, even the ATi brand name is on the >  > board. > F >>So if you are the happy owner of a DS10, now you know where to get a >  > moderately > 6 >>priced and quite good graphics card for your system. >> >  > ( > Presumably this is model CGA-7564PTVD.  % Yes, it is the first one on the list.   N > The Club-3d site provides pointers to distributors in various countries, andK > I am waiting to hear back from the UK distributor if they can supply one,  > and if so at what price. > M > Next is the question of support. The graphics eco adds driver level support I > for the card to VMS, but what we do not know is how much VMS depends on  > console level support. > N > If generic console code only looks for VGA support capability in a card, andJ > device driver selection is done by VMS startup code, it may well work inH > systems other than those for which formal console support code exists. > L > If VMS depends on the console to fully identify the card and will not loadI > the correct driver without that console support, those of us with older L > machines will (probably) not be able to upgrade our graphics capability to > this more modern option. >  > E > Hopefully someone who knows more than I do about the console and OS J > interaction at boot time may care to comment on the chances of this card: > actually working, albeit unsupported, in older machines.  O Every PCI card has has an ID that will be read during startup. This ID is used  O by VMS to load the appropiate driver. Just type sys$system:sys$config.dat, and  P you will see what I mean. This specific card is identified as a ATi Radeon 7500 E by VMS, so I suppose it has the same ID as a genuine ATi Radeon 7500.   J I have no idea if the card works in other systems, for instance in an old D Alphaserver 1000. Sometimes "not supported" only means "not tested".   >  >  >  > -- > John Travell" > VMS crashdump expertise for hire > john@travell.uk.net  > http://www.travell.uk.net/ >  >  >  >  >  >  >  > --- ( > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.< > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).C > Version: 6.0.474 / Virus Database: 272 - Release Date: 18/04/2003  >  >  >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:41:01 -0400 , From: "Island" <dbturner@nospamislandco.com>3 Subject: Re: For European hobbyists with a DS10 ... . Message-ID: <vavv6ctb68574@news.supernews.com>  L We are selling the original ATi 7500 64MB PCI Card which has DVI and VGA out; 5 Year warranty AND we can ship to the EU for less than $25   ) WE have them in stock - in large quantity   I Our price has just dropped to $150 FYI - but it is an original retail box 	 version !    David    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:46:02 +0100 ' From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy < Subject: Re: Gartner: HP is #1 vendor of servers for Q1 2003. Message-ID: <3EAF9B5A.2060901@nospamn.sun.com>   Keith Parris wrote: B > "HP (NYSE:HPQ) is the No. 1 vendor of servers worldwide, with 29C > percent unit market share for the first calendar quarter of 2003, H > according to preliminary results released today by Gartner Dataquest. ; > HP leads its closest competition by 9 percentage points."  > ; > http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2003/030428c.html        Humm  : Perhaps you should read this article it seems that Gartner8 and IDC arn't happy with HP over the rather creative way3 that have been spinning their market share numbers.   + http://biz.yahoo.com/ibd/030429/tech_1.html   0 When will it stop, first the financials spin now- the market share spin, caught out both times.    regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 06:17:56 -0700' From: pat.szuch@swagelok.com (PatrickS)  Subject: Re: Help with Vest = Message-ID: <761a8bd8.0304300517.4e7a9711@posting.google.com>   ` "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message news:<3EAF2B9A.FA8A4BDD@fsi.net>... > PatrickS wrote:  > > 
 > > Hello, > > D > > I have a single executable that I need to port from VMS to Alpha > > v7.3-1. = > > When I run the Vest/dependency command against it, I get:  > > ( > > Spvm02> vest /dependency csgscntl_21) > > %VEST-I-READIMAGE, Reading image file ) > > SYS$OPSUSERS:[PSZUCH]CSGSCNTL_21.EXE; J > > %VEST-F-OPENIN, Error opening SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]VAXCRTL.EXE; as input > > -RMS-E-FNF, file not foundH > > %VEST-I-READIMAGE, Reading image file SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]LIBRTL.EXE;I > > %VEST-F-OPENIN, Error opening SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]MTHRTL.EXE; as input  > > -RMS-E-FNF, file not foundH > > %VEST-I-READIMAGE, Reading image file SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]FDLSHR.EXE;I > > %VEST-F-OPENIN, Error opening SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]FORRTL.EXE; as inpute > > -RMS-E-FNF, file not foundJ > > %VEST-F-OPENIN, Error opening SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]LIBRTL2.EXE; as input > > -RMS-E-FNF, file not foundH > > %VEST-I-READIMAGE, Reading image file SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]SCRSHR.EXE;I > > %VEST-F-OPENIN, Error opening SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]PASRTL.EXE; as inpute > > -RMS-E-FNF, file not foundI > > %VEST-I-READIMAGE, Reading image file SYS$COMMON:[SYSLIB]SORTSHR.EXE;PD > > %VEST-F-DEPENDFATAL, Complete dependency analysis was impossible > > I > > As you can see, I have 5 RTL's that vest isn't finding.  If I look ina= > > sys$common:[syslib], I find vested versions of these (ie.pI > > VAXCRTL_D56_TV.EXE), but obviously, no native versions.  How do I geteH > > Vest to recognize the current (translated) versions of these runtimeE > > libraries.  Is it as simple as defining logicals such as "$definen? > > vaxcrtl vaxcrtl_d56_tv"?  It would seem that this should ber > > unnecessary. > > H > > Any ideas?  I have no experience with the Vest product, but it seemsJ > > my only hope for getting the exectable in question ported to Alpha, as% > > the source code is not available.a > ? > Have a look at SHOW LOGICALS on OpenVMS Alpha, especially thec > LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE table:o > " > $ pipe sh log | sear sys$pipe tv  >   "ACLEDTSHR_TV" = "ACLEDTSHR"# >   "BASRTL2_TV" = "BASRTL2_D53_TV"s! >   "BASRTL_TV" = "BASRTL_D56_TV"e% >   "BLAS1RTL_TV" = "BLAS1RTL_D53_TV"c >   "CDDSHR_TV" = "CDDSHR"$ >   "CMA$LIB_SHR_TV" = "CMA$LIB_SHR". >   "CMA$OPEN_LIB_SHR_TV" = "CMA$OPEN_LIB_SHR"& >   "CMA$OPEN_RTL_TV" = "CMA$OPEN_RTL" >   "CMA$RTL_TV" = "CMA$RTL"! >   "COBRTL_TV" = "COBRTL_D56_TV"s >   "CONVSHR_TV" = "CONVSHR" >   "CRFSHR_TV" = "CRFSHR"  >   "DBLMSGMGR" = "DBLMSGMGR_TV"! >   "DBLRTL_TV" = "DBLRTL_D56_TV"p >   "DCXSHR_TV" = "DCXSHR"  >   "DISMNTSHR_TV" = "DISMNTSHR" >   "DTKSHR_TV" = "DTKSHR" >   "EDTSHR_TV" = "EDTSHR"  >   "ENCRYPSHR_TV" = "ENCRYPSHR" >   "EPC$SHR_TV" = "EPC$SHR" >   "FDLSHR_TV" = "FDLSHR"! >   "FORRTL_TV" = "FORRTL_D56_TV"  >   "INIT$SHR_TV" = "INIT$SHR" >   "LBRSHR_TV" = "LBRSHR"# >   "LIBRTL2_TV" = "LIBRTL2_D56_TV" ! >   "LIBRTL_TV" = "LIBRTL_D56_TV"S >   "MAILSHR_TV" = "MAILSHR"  >   "MONTORSHR_TV" = "MONTORSHR" >   "MOUNTSHR_TV" = "MOUNTSHR"! >   "MTHRTL_TV" = "MTHRTL_D53_TV"u >   "NCSSHR_TV" = "NCSSHR"! >   "PASRTL_TV" = "PASRTL_D56_TV"i! >   "PLIRTL_TV" = "PLIRTL_D56_TV"E >   "PPLRTL_TV" = "PPLRTL". >   "PTD$SERVICES_SHR_TV" = "PTD$SERVICES_SHR" >   "SCRSHR_TV" = "SCRSHR"' >   "SECURESHR_TV" = "SECURESHR_JACKET"   >   "SMBSRVSHR_TV" = "SMBSRVSHR" >   "SMGSHR_TV" = "SMGSHR" >   "SORTSHR_TV" = "SORTSHR" >   "SPISHR_TV" = "SPISHR" >   "TECO32" = "TECO32_TV" >   "TECOSHR" = "TECOSHR_TV" >   "TPUSHR_TV" = "TPUSHR"% >   "VAXCRTLG_TV" = "VAXCRTLG_D56_TV" # >   "VAXCRTL_TV" = "VAXCRTL_D56_TV"e >   "VMSRTL" = "VMSRTL_TV" > E > (from V7.3-1 on my ISP's Alpha machine - I can TELNET to it with my. > usual username/password)       David,  D Thanks for your reply.  But this doesn't really answer my question. @ As you can see from the output of my vest/dependency command, itE appears that Vest is looking for native executables for the RTL filesoF in sys$common:[syslib].  Thus, I am getting "file not found" errors on@ vested images, such as VAXCRTL_D56_TV, MTHRTL_D53_TV, etc...  MyD system logical table on Alpha looks like yours.  I have logicals forB the *_TV images.  I'm just not sure why I'm getting the fnf errorsC when running Vest/Dependency against an executable that calls those 	 images...E  D On a related note, when I attempt to actually convert the executableD in question via Vest, it is translating with warnings.  The LIS file contains the following:n   Spvm02> type csgscntl_21_tv.lismA VEST V1.2-0 built at May 27 2002 12:49:34 starting at Apr 30 2003e
 09:01:24 withr
 command line:V VEST CSGSCNTL_21/  Image "CSGSCNTL", "01", 6-JUN-1990 15:45:25.17 < %VEST-W-RWTRANSDEF, Code in writeable image section is being translated by defaut  lt -- use /INTERPRET to override"         At:    00149321 (00149321)"         Input: CMPB   0008AA50,#6E   ! Message summary by category: ! " ! 1 messages in STANDARD category:A !     1  WARNING  RWTRANSDEF - Code in writeable image section isK being translat+ ed by default -- use /INTERPRET to override  ! & ! 22 messages in PERFORMANCE category:B !     3     INFO  VAXDFLOAT - VAX D_floating opcode !AZ -- will be
 emulated (D56 % ) or implemented via G_floating (D53)IB !    18     INFO  VAXHFLOAT - VAX H_floating opcode !AZ -- will be emulatedC !     1     INFO    STKUNAL - Stack pointer is not longword alignedr after changi/ ng by !SL bytes -- accessing stack will be slowI !-* ! 33 messages in SOURCE_ANALYSIS category:E !     1     INFO  STKMISMATCH - Stack pointer adjustments don't match}
 on all inc& oming paths -- may indicate source bug: !    26     INFO  NONSTDCALLU - Non-standard call uses !AZ: !     1     INFO  NONSTDCALLS - Non-standard call sets !AZA !     3     INFO    READCF0 - Routine reads the condition handler  address from i
 ts call frame1F !     1     INFO    READCF3 - Routine reads the saved FP from its call frame B !     1     INFO    READCF4 - Routine reads the return PC from its
 call frame !7* ! 14 messages in SYNCHRONIZATION category:F !     2     INFO     FLAGMP - Image calls system service !AZ which may indicate multiprocessor operationF !     1     INFO  FLAGASYNC - Image calls system service !AZ which may	 perform as synchronous memory access.F !    11     INFO     FLAGIO - Image calls system service !AZ which may	 perform a  synchronous I/Og !i" ! 14 messages in VERBOSE category:. !    10     INFO    READING - Reading file !AZ4 !     1     INFO      NOHIF - HIF file !AZ not found6 !     1     INFO      PASS1 - Starting analysis pass 16 !     1     INFO      PASS2 - Starting analysis pass 2F !     1     INFO   ENDPASS2 - Ending analysis pass 2 -- beginning code	 generatiog n and output S3    5 When I run the executable, I get an access violation.   ; %SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=00, virtual- address=000000007ADF& BF13, PC=FFFFFFFF808D4FC4, PS=0000001B  2   Improperly handled condition, image exit forced.1     Signal arguments:   Number = 0000000000000005-1                         Name   = 000000000000000Co1                                  0000000000000000e1                                  000000007ADFBF13y1                                  FFFFFFFF808D4FC4 1                                  000000000000001B        Register dump:9     R0  = 0000000000005F7F  R1  = 000000007ADFBF0C  R2  =7 00000000000000009     R3  = 0000000000000000  R4  = 000000007ADF6F20  R5  =r 00000000000000209     R6  = 000000007ADFBF13  R7  = 0000000000000000  R8  =r 00000000000000019     R9  = 0000000000000001  R10 = 000000000014E328  R11 =2 00000000001464879     R12 = 000000007ADF5F10  R13 = 000000007B5733D8  R14 =f 000000007ADF5EE89     R15 = 00000000005B2000  R16 = 0000000000005F80  R17 =v 00000000000000009     R18 = 0000000000000000  R19 = 0000000000000000  R20 =d 00000000000000049     R21 = 0000000000008000  R22 = 0000000000000000  R23 =  000000000000001C9     R24 = 000000007ADF6F20  R25 = 0000000000000020  R26 =  00000000000000009     R27 = 0000000000000001  R28 = 0000000000000000  R29 =  000000007ADF5D909     SP  = 000000007ADF5D70  PC  = FFFFFFFF808D4FC4  PS  =C 300000000000001BB %TIE-I-HIFENTRIESWRITT, $1$DGA225:[OPSUSERS.][PSZUCH]CSGSCNTL.HIF;
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 Patrick Szuchk DBA, Swagelok Company4 pat.szuch@swagelok.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 04:53:06 -0400,* From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>B Subject: Re: HELP: Running Out Of Vitrual Memory When Compiling...) Message-ID: <3EAF8EDA.F4EE839D@istop.com>-   Anonymous #314 wrote: = > Fatal: Insufficient vitrual memory to continue compilation.d/ > %LIB-F-INSVIRMEM, insufficient virtual memoryh     from a privileged account:T SHOW MEMORY/FILES will give you an idea of how space is available in the page files.   then:r SET DEF SYS$SYSTEM MC AUTHORIZE UAF> SHOW username  L You want to increase the PGFILQUO value of your account. That determines howM much of a page file you are allowed to monopolize in one process. If you givehI yourself too much PGFILQUO, you could end up freezing your system becausehN there won't be any room left for another more important process to page to the page file. c  M You might also wish to increase the WSEXTENT value, which allows your processoM to exceed its quota when there is free real memory, thus limiting the name toiK page to the page file. This si also dependand on the SYSGEN parameter WSMAXw which limits all processes.s   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 08:28:47 -0700- From: jodonnell@hrblock.com (Jason O'Donnell).> Subject: HELP: SCA Traffic - Transmit Sequence Packet Timeouts= Message-ID: <9059bf6b.0304300728.70a08f34@posting.google.com>-   Hello,  A We have noticed some errors with our SCA traffic in two differenteB clusters, we are getting about 800 errors a day.  We think it is aE configuration issue on our hosts.  We have a cluster of two ES40s and > two ES45s running SCA over Gigabit Ethernet through Cisco 6509E switches.  Each server has two cards.  Our other cluster is two DS20s@C with two GbE cards too.  Both clusters connect to two blades on theg 6509 in the same VLAN.   Any suggestions?   Here is a sample from one node:0   $SHOW SYSTEM/NOPROCESSA OpenVMS V7.3-1  on node DEVB  30-APR-2003 14:22:42.40  Uptime  25, 23:04:03   SYSMAN> PARAMETER SHOW /SCS@& Node DEVB:   Parameters in use: ACTIVEB Parameter Name            Current    Default    Minimum    Maximum
 Unit  DynamicmB --------------            -------    -------    -------    -------
 ----  -------aB SCSBUFFCNT                    512         50          0      32767 EntrieseB SCSCONNCNT                     12         40          2      32767 Entries B SCSRESPCNT                    300        300          0      32767 EntriesvB SCSMAXDG                      576        576         28        985 BytesoB SCSMAXMSG                     216        216         60        985 BytescB SCSSYSTEMID                  1046          0         -1         -1 Pure-numbernB SCSSYSTEMIDH                    0          0         -1         -1 Pure-numbernB SCSNODE                 "DEVB    "    "    "     "    "     "ZZZZ" Ascii B PASTDGBUF                      16          4          1         16 Buffers-B SMCI_PORTS                      1          1          0         -1 Bitmask B UDABURSTRATE                    0          0          0         31	 LongwordsiB TIMVCFAIL                    1600       1600        100      65535
 10Ms        D3B SCSFLOWCUSH                     1          1          0         16
 Credits     D>B PRCPOLINTERVAL                 30         30          1      32767
 Seconds     DaB PASTIMOUT                       5          5          1         99
 Seconds     D-B PANUMPOLL                      16         16          1        223
 Ports       DnB PAMAXPORT                      32         32          0        223
 Port-number DoB PAPOLLINTERVAL                 20          5          1      32767
 Seconds     DVB PAPOOLINTERVAL                 15         15          1      32767
 Seconds     D1B PASANITY                        1          1          0          1
 Boolean     D B PANOPOLL                        0          0          0          1
 Boolean     DbB SMCI_FLAGS                      0          0          0         -1
 Bitmask     Di   SCACP> SHOW CIRCUIT DEVA  + Circuit data for DEVB at 30-APR 14:54:44.58i  D      Remote   LPort   Circuit Priority   Load      RPort       RPortC      Node     Name    State   Cur  Mgt   Class     Number      TypemF    -------- -------- -------- ---- ---- -------- ------------ --------F        DEVA PEA0         Open    0    0     2000           DE       NI SCACP> SHOW CIRCUIT DEVA  + Circuit data for DEVB at 30-APR 14:54:59.84o  D      Remote   LPort   Circuit Priority   Load      RPort       RPortC      Node     Name    State   Cur  Mgt   Class     Number      Type,F    -------- -------- -------- ---- ---- -------- ------------ --------F        DEVA PEA0         Open    0    0     1000           DE       NI     Why does the load class change?<        SCACP> SHOW CHANNEL/ALL (edited)  2 DEVB PEA0 Channel Summary 30-APR-2003 14:27:55.80:  F Remote  LAN Dev Channel  Total    ECS   Buffer   Delay   Load    Total?  Node   Loc Rmt  State  Errors   State   Size    (uSec)  Class a	 Pkts(S+R)t?  ----   --- ---  -----  ------   -----   ----    ------  ----- t	 --------- ? DEVA    EWA EWB  Open     4636  Y(T,P,F) 1426    1343.4  1000    86377069? DEVA    EWB EWB  Open     4736  N(T,P,S) 1426    2130.4  1000  t 86836841? DEVA    EWB EWA  Open     4728  Y(T,P,F) 1426    1018.9  1000  - 87600350? DEVA    EWA EWA  Open     4591  Y(T,P,F) 1426    1159.2  1000    87146515@ DEVB    EWA EWB  Open        2  Y(T,P,F) 1426     244.1  1000    3868023g@ DEVB    EWB EWA  Open        2  Y(T,P,F) 1426     244.1  1000    3878081e@ DEVB    LCL LCL  Open        1  Y(T,P,F) 1426     244.1     0    3849631n     SCACP> SHOW VC/ALL (edited)s  . DEVB PEA0 VC Counters 30-APR-2003 14:40:38.22:  $ Remote  ----------------- Transmit -$ Node    Messages Acks    Retransmits$ ------  -------- --------- ---------$   DEVA 218554711   6765807     21458$   DEVB         3         0         0  , DEVB PEA0 VC Errors 30-APR-2003 14:40:38.22:           -----Transmit ------ Remote    SeqPkt Node    Timeouts  NoXmtChan: ------- --------- ---------  DEVA        21458         0R DEVB            0         0i     SDA> SHOW LAN/FULL     LAN Data Structures7 ------------------- @                -- EWA Device Information 30-APR-2003 15:06:25 --  C LSB address                 C6024000    Driver code address        e 81214BB8C Driver version     00000002.07030131    Device1 code address       h 00000000C Device1 version    00000000.0C00040C    Device2 code address         00000000C Device2 version    00000000.00000000    LAN code address           E 81216400E LAN version        00000001.07031145    DLL type                       CSMACDF Device name                 EW_DEGPA    MOP name                         EWAnC MOP ID                           217    HW serial               Notd suppliedF HW version                  60000020    Promiscuous mode                 OFF(C Controller mode               NORMAL    Promiscuous UCB            y 00000000F Internal loopback                OFF    All multicast state              OFF1F Hardware address   00-60-CF-20-B7-DB    CRC generation mode               ON:F Physical address   AA-00-04-00-16-04    Full Duplex Enable                ONmF Active unit count                  8    Full Duplex State                 ON8$ Line speed                      1000  ) Flags:  00000007 CREATED,ENABLED,BENABLEDs Char:   0000000C MULSEGO& Status: 00000103 RUN,INITED,RING_AVAIL     LAN Data Structuresu ------------------- D             -- EWA Device Information (cont) 30-APR-2003 15:06:25 --  C Put rcv ptr/index           00000165    Get rcv ptr/index          c 000002E5C Put xmt ptr/index           00000019    Get xmt ptr/index          n 00000019C Put cmd ptr/index           00000000    Get cmd ptr/index          n 00000000C Put uns ptr/index           00000000    Get uns ptr/index          h 00000000C Put smt ptr/index           00000001    Get smt ptr/index          u 00000000F RBufs owned by dev               129    Rcv packet limit                 128yF XEnts owned by dev                 0    XEnts owned by host              128iF CEnts owned by dev                 0    Transmit timer                     00F UEnts owned by dev                 0    Control timer                      0vF SEnts owned by dev                 0    Periodic SYSID timer             677 F Current rcv buffers              129    Ring unavail timer                 0-F Rqst MAX rcv buffers             256    USB timer                        209pF Rqst MIN rcv buffers             128    Receive alignment                  0xF Curr MAX rcv buffers             129    Receive buffer size             1518oF Curr MIN rcv buffers             129    Min 1st chain segment              0-F FILL rcv buffers                 129    Min transmit length                0 F ADD  rcv buffers                 193    Dev xmt header size                01   LAN Data Structures  ------------------- D             -- EWA Device Information (cont) 30-APR-2003 15:06:25 --  C Last receive         30-APR 15:06:25    Last transmit        30-APRw 15:06:25C ADP address                 81570880    IDB address                o 815ED580: DAT stage                   00000000    DAT xmt status     0000001A.001A0001PC DAT number started                 1    DAT xmt complete      4-APR- 15:21:30F DAT number failed                  0    DAT rcv found                   NonecC DAT VCRP                    815EE980    DAT UCB                    8 00000000C Mailbox enable flag                0    CRAM read comman           0 00000000C CSR base phys addr 00000000.A7252000    CRAM write comma           . 00000000F Mailboxes in use                   0    Media                           UNDFo$ 2nd LW status flags         00000000    3 -- EWA Counters Information 30-APR-2003 15:08:28 --s  @ Octets received          15270383790    Octets sent              19596201512eC PDUs received               90231525    PDUs sent                  a 99717093B Mcast octets received      898979121    Mcast octets sent         	 149821829gD Mcast PDUs received         11360936    Mcast PDUs sent              1073007-F Unrec indiv dest PDUs              0    PDUs sent, deferred                0mF Unrec mcast dest PDUs        6366208    PDUs sent, one coll                03F Data overruns                      0    PDUs sent, mul coll                0pF Unavail station buffs              0    Excessive collisions               0fF Unavail user buffers               0    Late collisions                    0aF CRC errors                         0    Carrier check failure              0 F Alignment errors                   0    Last carrier failure            None-F Rcv data length err                0    Coll detect chk fail               0lF Frame size errors                  0    Short circuit failure              0.F Frames too long                    0    Open circuit failure               0sF Seconds since zeroed         2237071    Transmits too long                 0lF Station failures                   0    Send data length err               0d   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 06:23:06 -0700 From: br@b-con.dk (Bendix Riis)f1 Subject: Host based shadowing on VAX VMS v5.5-2h4 = Message-ID: <9946d62e.0304300523.1d2b964a@posting.google.com>n  D Problem on a VAX 3100-80 running VMS v5.5-2h4 and installed patches:$ VAXSHAD09_U2055 and VAXSHAD12_U2055.   After mounting with the commandm  <     mount/system dsa2: /shadow=($2$dka200:,$2$dka500:) test2  D the shadowset is mounted and a "show device d" shows that $2$dka500:7 is the target of a copy operation and that "0% copied".c  D Nothing is ever copied to the target disk no matter how long I wait.  D If I copy files from another disk to the shadowset (dsa2:) then both% disks are updated with the new files.e   What have I done wrong??   Bendix   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:44:43 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com>i8 Subject: HP's enterprise strategy launch webcast - May 6H Message-ID: <LbSra.44281$w7k.26760@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  F What do you think the odds they don't mention VMS in a meaningful way,! ie. at least as evident as HP-UX?u   I'm betting 3:1 against.    --------------------------------  D http://www.viewinfo.net/hpwebcastmay6/?mtxs=home-ent&mtxb=B2&mtxl=L1  > Please join Carly Fiorina, Shane Robison, Peter Blackmore, Ann@ Livermore and other HP executives as they unveil HP's enterpriseD strategy to drive customer value in today's challenging environment.   Tuesday, May 6, 2003 9 a.m. - 11 a.m. PDT   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 07:55:16 +0100; From: alan.nospam@glaramara.freeserve.co.uk (Alan J. Wylie)aQ Subject: Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopolyV= Message-ID: <wgn0i879uz.fsf@qwerty.glaramara.freeserve.co.uk>i  Q On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 22:02:23 -0400, "Alan T. Bowler" <atbowler@thinkage.ca> said:-  C > When I was a student was ordanized a canoe/kayak race.  The civilsB > engineers entered their concrete canoe.  It would have been fineB > except that the river was really low that year and they ended up# > lugging it for much of the route.@  + A bit like the Henly-on-Todd regatta, then?k http://www.henleyontodd.com.au/u   -- rN Alan J. Wylie                            http://www.glaramara.freeserve.co.uk/H What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless,H whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism5 or the holy name of liberty and democracy?  -- Gandhi    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:32:00 GMTb+ From: Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>eY Subject: Re: IBM says AMD dead in 5yrs ... -- Microsoft Monopoly vs. IBM monopoly monopols) Message-ID: <u4r4g17t5.fsf@earthlink.net>m  6 Brian Inglis <Brian.Inglis@SystematicSw.ab.ca> writes:< > CMU SEI CMM level 5 organizations are also said to produce" > consistently unusable programs.   > and somewhat related to SEI at CMU is the dependable computing which CMU has grant from NASA-% http://www.hdcc.cs.cmu.edu/index.htmlM+ http://www.hdcc.cs.cmu.edu/may01/index.htmlo   and various stuff on assurance:e3 http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subtopic.html#assurancei   --  3 Anne & Lynn Wheeler | http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/  A Internet trivia 20th anv http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/rfcietff.htm    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:41:12 +0100e' From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK ConsultancyaA Subject: Re: Itanium Madison blasts Sun, IBM in encryption specs!o. Message-ID: <3EAF9A38.1010100@nospamn.sun.com>  A Incedentally the best HP SPECWEB_SSL benchmark result on a rx2600h( with 2 x 1 GHz 3 MB cache CPU's is 1230.  : The best Sun V210/V240 number with 2 x 1 GHz CPU's is 833.  9 The list price of the rx2600 config used for the test wasn' according to your website ~46K dollars.-  / A Sun V240 with 8 GB and a crypto 2x 1GHz CPU'sJ. internal disks 4 GB NICS costs 8K dollars. The V210 would be 500 dollars less.1  . So at 16K for two we end up with a faster more1 resiliant solution and still have 30K left in the  pot.  - It doesn't take a genius to work out that you * won't be selling many at that price as web* servers and even at half the price you are still a long way adrift.   Regardsp Andrew HarrisonI   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:08:37 +0100 ' From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy A Subject: Re: Itanium Madison blasts Sun, IBM in encryption specs! . Message-ID: <3EAFA0A5.4050303@nospamn.sun.com>   Rick Jones wrote:bR > Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote: > I >>>Further, HP has not (to my knowledge) announced prices for the 1.5 GHze >>>systems.e >># >>1.5 MB cache not 1.5 GHZ systems.n >  > D > That comment was refering to the systems with 1.5 GHz Itanium 2 6M. > CPUs (aka Madison), not the older McKinleys. >  > 8 >>And of course its a very horizontally scalable service >  > D > Indeed, web services can be quite horizontally scalable.  However,G > there have been no clustered SPECweb99_SSL results published to date.gF > That would seem to suggest that either the workload characterized byD > the benchmark is either not horizontally scalable, or isn't easilyC > horizontally scalable. (SPECweb99_SSL does not prohibit clustered 
 > results) >  > F >>box that costs 34K with 2 CPU's hardly makes much sense when you can9 >>buy a 5 x 2 way V210's with cryptos for the same price.  >  > D > Do you mean to imply that it would take 5 of the two-way V210's toC > match the SPECweb99_SSL performance of a single two-CPU non-SPARCr
 > systems? >  > E >>The V210/V240 are new low cost low end 1/2U 1 GHz UltraIIIi serverseD >>BTW, similar capacity to a Sun V280 but well under half the price. >  > F > Sparring with you in Usenet is always fun because you are so fast onC > your keyboard :) You were saying how much more expensive than the7E > Opterons the HP IPF systems were.  I then said SPARC systems aren't C > that much better compared to the Opterons (in otherwords, the pottB > calling the kettle).  You've come-back instead with a comparisonD > between the Sun systems and the IPF boxes instead of the Opterons. >   A Humm, you seem to have missed the context of the thread entirely.e  > We may have to compete to Opteron, allthough Sun has said that= we are interested in the CPU, not suprising since we allreadyV  produce AMD based 32bit systems.  ; But the real dog fight will be between Intel and AMD in theo@ 1-8 way x86 32 bit server space with AMD having 3 big advantages over Intel.   > 1.	Opteron is faster than any of the current MP x86 processors< 2.	Because it has onchip memory controller SMP bus and cache; 	like UltraSPARC IIIi AMD can charge more for it than Intel = 	can for the Xeons because the AMD OEMS need fewer additionald< 	components. Or alternatively they don't have to cut so much? 	margin in order to respond to what ever incentives Intel offerm 	to keep their OEMs onside.e  < 3.	It is also 64bit while being able to run 32bit apps well.    > Like it or not Intel make all their profits in the 1-8 way x865 space, IA-64 is just a huge black hole at this point./  < If Opteron starts taking significant market share from Intel; in this space as many people think it will because of the 3a- points above then Intel will have to respond.k  : They cannot respond with IA-64, it has no software its too> expensive to build in systems and it runs 32 bit apps terribly< its also slower than Opteron on Integer which dominates this> market and will probably be slower on FP once AMD publish some8 x86-64bit compiler results, all of their current results' use the standard 32bit intel compilers.l  < Yamhill if it exists and if Intel respond with then IA-64 is dead or close to death.e  ; This isn't a discussion about how Sun competes with Opteron = but whether Opteron will kill your datacenter server strategyc1 stone dead, at the moment it isn't looking great.t  B > So, lets then look at those V240s you brought-up (there being noF > SPECweb99_SSL figures published for the V210, and I doubt you reallyD > meant to imply that it would take 5 hardware-accelerated V210's toH > match a two-CPU non-SPARC system at SPECweb99_SSL) and compare them to > those Opterons.  e >   C The V210 is basically the same as the V240 but only has 1 PCI slot,r not needed for this config.a  @ But even if this is a problem its hardly a major issue since the& V250 only costs about 500 dollars more  K > The SPECweb99_SSL result for a two-CPU V240 was 833 [1]. So, to match thetH > two-CPU Opteron results one would need two of those (actually, two andF > a fraction - 1783/833 = 2.14) and to match the four-CPU result would" > require 4 (actually 4.2 - ie 5). >   A As I said this really isn't a discussion about how SPARC competesn, with Opteron but how IA-64 survives Opteron.   Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:26:46 GMTa& From: jlsue <jefflsxxxz@sbcglobal.net>A Subject: Re: Itanium Madison blasts Sun, IBM in encryption specs!t8 Message-ID: <t5jvav4irgofree3ip4ldrkdricqvlc6hp@4ax.com>  E On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:08:37 +0100, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancyn. <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote:     >d; >They cannot respond with IA-64, it has no software its toot? >expensive to build in systems and it runs 32 bit apps terriblyn= >its also slower than Opteron on Integer which dominates thisq? >market and will probably be slower on FP once AMD publish somey9 >x86-64bit compiler results, all of their current results ( >use the standard 32bit intel compilers.  I I make no predictions how either one will fare in the future.  However, Ic> don't believe that either one can claim victory at this point.  E To date, no AMD processor has appeared in high-end server systems fordH business-class, reliable computing.  This is a huge jump in mind-set forI AMD and we have no idea how well it'll do then.  Benchmarks are nice, butoE there's more to the story than that.  If major vendors like Sun begindJ building high-end servers with these processors, then we'll have something to compare to.  K Personally, I don't care about the commodity workstation market (other thansI the fact that I build my own home systems, usually based on AMD CPUs).  IoD generally work in the mission critical computing environment and theF systems must meet some pretty stringent needs to be reliable enough to! convince me that they are viable.o  I To that end, this issue of 32-bit apps is, imho, a non-issue.  All of theoH server-based OSs that I care about are 64-bit.  That's not just a niche,H it's a few billion $$ (USD) per year (HP-UX, Non-Stop Kernel, Tru64, and3 OpenVMS... oh yeah, and eventually 64-bit windows).y  K At this point all of the systems are lower-end class systems (imho) and the  rest is all theoretical.  K We can all act like talking-heads and pundits until the cows come home, but J until there's some real, live servers in full production, nobody can claim victory or righteousness.r   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:38:18 +0100s' From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK ConsultancynA Subject: Re: Itanium Madison blasts Sun, IBM in encryption specs! . Message-ID: <3EAFFBFA.9090103@nospamn.sun.com>   jlsue wrote:G > On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:08:37 +0100, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy 0 > <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote: >  >  > < >>They cannot respond with IA-64, it has no software its too@ >>expensive to build in systems and it runs 32 bit apps terribly> >>its also slower than Opteron on Integer which dominates this@ >>market and will probably be slower on FP once AMD publish some: >>x86-64bit compiler results, all of their current results) >>use the standard 32bit intel compilers.o >  > K > I make no predictions how either one will fare in the future.  However, It@ > don't believe that either one can claim victory at this point. > G > To date, no AMD processor has appeared in high-end server systems for-J > business-class, reliable computing.  This is a huge jump in mind-set forK > AMD and we have no idea how well it'll do then.  Benchmarks are nice, butQG > there's more to the story than that.  If major vendors like Sun beginoL > building high-end servers with these processors, then we'll have something > to compare to. >   : It doesn't have to thats the beauty of the problem that HP have dumped on Intel.e  8 Intel make all their profits in the 32bit 1-8 way space.5 Opteron, Althon-64, Althon-64 mobile all of which areo7 expected to be available this year are going to compete  directly with Intels cash cow.  > Even the most optimistic estimates put IA-64 systems shipments9 as 25K for this year, with slightly less than 2 CPU's pera7 system on average for IA-64 systems currently this putsm4 the total number of IA-64 processors shipped as 50K.  8 This puts Intel still last in the 64 bit processor space by a very long way.   : Now this would be fine if they don't loose market share to: AMD in the 1-8 way 32bit space but all the indications are that they will.   7 If they lose enough than Yamhill may become reality andm IA-64 is dead.      M > Personally, I don't care about the commodity workstation market (other than.K > the fact that I build my own home systems, usually based on AMD CPUs).  ItF > generally work in the mission critical computing environment and theH > systems must meet some pretty stringent needs to be reliable enough to# > convince me that they are viable.G >   A Well you should do because Intels sucess in that market competingV= with Opteron will make or break their 64 bit strategy and youi> work for the vendor who has tied their mid to high end systems) strategy to their current 64bit strategy.X   regardsS Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 10:15:59 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)A Subject: Re: Itanium Madison blasts Sun, IBM in encryption specs!o= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0304300915.5fbecbdb@posting.google.com>F   Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote in message news:<3EAFA0A5.4050303@nospamn.sun.com>...- > > > Yamhill if it exists and if Intel respond with then IA-64 is > dead or close to death.n > = > This isn't a discussion about how Sun competes with Opteront? > but whether Opteron will kill your datacenter server strategyL3 > stone dead, at the moment it isn't looking great.e > C > As I said this really isn't a discussion about how SPARC competess. > with Opteron but how IA-64 survives Opteron. > 	 > Regardsb > Andrew Harrisonr  7 and you think the 64bit chip of the high end future is y2 oopsteron?  You cannot run a datacenter on either 6 oopsteron or 80,000 sparkies ... that leaves Power and9 Alpha and Itanium, but if itanium gets EV8-9 fuctionalityc7 then it will win hands down ... and remember, EV7 righte6 now kicks butt and it is not to late with hard work to; start EV8 back up if need be ... but if the alpha engineerse< are allowed to put EV8-9 features into itanium, then itanium< would surpass EV8 because it would handle more instructions.  ( http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9127   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 13:14:36 +0530r4 From: Kesav Tadimeti <Kesav_Tadimeti@KeaneIndia.com>) Subject: Re: Johnny English is a VMS user_K Message-ID: <8EA11405E59BD611BA7100104B93C26001453BD9@exdel01.del.mgsl.com>V  + Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 15:23:54 +0100 (MET)H9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>A) Subject: Re: Johnny English is a VMS userL; Message-ID: <01KVAYRD1OV6A9SJ2F@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>N   <snip>F Just in case it's not clear, I'm referring to the faux pas which had aF Sun workstation featured on the cover of the VMS documentation.  (I'veF never seen this doc set myself, so this is second-hand and perhaps not entirely correct.) Y </snip>=  L VMS printed documents *DO* feature SUN computers. The latest ones have a red7 & white cover and show a man sitting in front of a SUN."
 Way to go HP.V. BTW, does any one know what font VMS features? keshav7 +-----------------------------------------------------+H0 	KEANE INDIA LIMITED                            0 	E9 - E12, SDF                                  1 	NEPZ, NOIDA 201 305                              0 	U.P, INDIA                                     6                                                       0 	e-mail: kesav_tadimeti@keaneindia.com          0 	phone: +91-120-2568210(371)                    5       Men are from MACs, Women are from VMS           7 +-----------------------------------------------------+ 5 Conscience is a mother-in-law whose visit never ends." 		-- H. L. Mencken   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:31:04 +0100T( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>) Subject: Re: Johnny English is a VMS user-) Message-ID: <3EAF89C8.B6D08864@127.0.0.1>a   Phillip Helbig wrote:, > D > > I hope we can see Johnny English reading the HTML version of the7 > > VMS documents on his VMS workstation in the sequel.a > C > Gorgeous Bond girl:  I'm sorry, what did you say the name of youri > operating system is? > ! > Sexy Super Spy:  VMS---OpenVMS.n  < And the evil organization desperate to get rid of Mr. VMS...   G.A.R.T.N.E.R.   (Personal opinion) --  ? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciencest nclews at csc dot comn   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 08:46:38 GMT 2 From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman@digital.com>? Subject: List VMS fonts (was: Re: Johnny English is a VMS user)t+ Message-ID: <3EAFB619.7B761C04@digital.com>i   Kesav Tadimeti wrote:g     <Johnny English stuff snipped..>  N > VMS printed documents *DO* feature SUN computers. The latest ones have a red9 > & white cover and show a man sitting in front of a SUN.1 > Way to go HP.40 > BTW, does any one know what font VMS features? > keshav   do you mean as in: -C     1. Check that DECW$Display is set. (set display/create/node=<my0 node>)        $ show Display $     2. @DECW$UTILS:DECW$Define_Utils%     3. a. xlsfonts  - will list fontscE        b. xdpyinfo  - will list display params. (dimensions should ben 1280x??)        t -- bE ---------------------------------------------------------------------NE Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that.-? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* F Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 12:45:36 GMTA& From: "John Hayes" <hayes1966@cox.net> Subject: Re: Modem on Decserverm9 Message-ID: <QzPra.32127$WQ4.24204@news2.central.cox.net>-   Hi Dave,  K Another question for you, I have the port setup but now need to find actual I cables to use with it. I have jerry rigged a cable but would like to know  the dec cables to use.   John    5 "David Froble" <davef@tsoft-inc.com> wrote in messagem& news:3EA74F1C.4020906@tsoft-inc.com... > Rob Brown wrote: >r* > > On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, John Hayes wrote: > >I > >NH > >>I am trying to hook a multitech modem up to a decserver 90m for dialC > >>out only. I did this years ago but can't remember what the portS > >>settings should be.s > >> > >wH > > I'm not familiar with the 90m.  On the 90L+, you had to set the port, > > to printer.  Does that apply to the 90m? >e >r6 > Port  6:                               Server: SRVR3 >rH > Character Size:            8           Input Speed:              19200H > Flow Control:            XON           Output Speed:             19200H > Parity:                 None           Signal Control:         Enabled > Stop Bits:           Dynamic >aH > Access:              Dynamic           Local Switch:              NoneH > Backwards Switch:       None           Name:                    PORT_6H > Break:                 Local           Session Limit:                4H > Forwards Switch:        None           Type:                      AnsiH > Default Protocol:        LAT           Default Menu:              NoneH > Autolink Timer One:10 Two:10           Dialer Script:             None >0 > Preferred Service: None  > Authorized Groups:   0 > (Current)  Groups:   0 >  > Enabled Characteristics:@ > Autoprompt,  Broadcast,  Failover,  Input Flow Control,  Lock,H > Loss Notification,  Message Codes,  Output Flow Control,  Verification >0 > Local> help set port access0 > DEFINE/SET/CHANGE PORT ACCESS  > % > ACCESS controls the type of access.F >3 > ACCESS {DYNAMIC} >         {LOCAL  }  * >         {NONE   }0 >         {REMOTE }0 >0G > DYNAMIC   allows a port to alternate between local and remote access.0 >07 > LOCAL     allows a port user to log in to the server.0 >0 > NONE      disables the port. > D > REMOTE    allows the port to be accessed only by remote connection	 requests.0 >0L > The above is on either a 90M or 90TL, can't remember.  Too lazy to go back toL > the terminal session and get back on the terminal server.  A 90M is pretty muchF > a 90TL with flash mamory to avoid the need for a load from a server. >0H > The key setting is ACCESS.  My setup allows both incoming and outgoing dialH > connections.  If you do not want the incoming conncetion, then set the	 access to 	 > REMOTE.? > H > I'm assuming that you're not asking about the port creation on the VMS	 side.  If- > you need that, ask.  >e > Dave >p > -- 06 > David Froble                       Tel: 724-529-04506 > Dave Froble Enterprises, Inc.      Fax: 724-529-0596@ > DFE Ultralights, Inc.              E-Mail: davef@tsoft-inc.com8 > T-Soft, Inc.  170 Grimplin Road  Vanderbilt, PA  15486 >o   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 10:19:12 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)$ Subject: New sun sparkies a bust ...= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0304300919.19968cca@posting.google.com>Y    it says so right here Andrew ...  ( http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=9205   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:17:33 +0100 ' From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancyh/ Subject: Re: Not entirely OT: RSHELL to Solarise. Message-ID: <3EAFA2BD.4030205@nospamn.sun.com>   David J. Dachtera wrote:* > Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote: > - >>[Edited for grammar and sentence structure]l. >>What kind of data is it[? Is it] in a file ? >  > I > It's list of tape volumes by owner. The STK VAR provided a shell scriptlF > which in turn invokes ACSLS's report writer to produce the list. The > data is written to stdout. >   3 I am assuming from this that you need to be able tom1 remotely execute the shell script on the Sun from:' OpenVMS form inside something like DCL.c  0 In that case I guess you would have to use REXEC/ and creade a .rhosts /etc/hosts.equiv entry fori. the OpenVMS user executing the remote command.  3 The .rhosts entry is in the UNIX home directory for.4 the userid executing the command it can just contain/ the OpenVMS servers hostname and optionally theu	 username.v  ; The /etc/hosts.equiv file is global for all users and againh3 just contains the hostname and again optionally thet	 username.s   Regards  Andrew Harrisont   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 08:46:46 -0400 5 From: David Beatty <David.Beatty@qwertysasasdfgh.com>n/ Subject: Re: Not entirely OT: RSHELL to Solaris 2 Message-ID: <CcWvPnxTpJa9dj3wkxJdkfsWYl0M@4ax.com>  7 On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:24:47 -0500, "David J. Dachtera"  <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote:   >David Beatty wrote: >> a: >> On Mon, 28 Apr 2003 21:09:41 -0500, "David J. Dachtera"! >> <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote:F >>  L >> >Okay, now that we have our STK L700E libraries running, our ACSLS serverK >> >talking to DCSC and thence to SLS, I need to get data from ACSLS, which  >> >runs on Solaris. >> > >> >My question is:3 >> >K >> >Is there some way to eliminate the need to have passwords in clear text I >> >on RSHELL commands in our DCL procedures? Is there some kind of proxy K >> >and/or trusted host relationship I can set up on Solaris so that I needu. >> >only pass a username on my RSHELL command? >> >	 >> >Info:- >> >VMS V7.3-1 >> >Multinet V4.4 Rev A-X  >> >Solaris/8 (Sparc)  >> >ACSLS V6.0.1 >> ZF >>     How about an entry in the file ~UNAME/.rhosts on the Unix side,+ >> where UNAME is the username, for example  >>   >> vmssys.vms.comp.com vmsuser >> m= >> This seems to work fine going from VMS V7.2-2 using either - >> TCP/IP V5.1 or Multinet V4.3 to Solaris 8.  >> 0F >>     If the username is the same on both systems, you don't need the >> /username qualifier.  > F >I'll have to look for "man rhosts" in the morning, but do you know ifG >the username parameter in there can be a wildcard? ...or do I just not  >enter it to allow any user?  A     An asterik does not seem to work for a wildcard.  If there is61 not a username, it defaults to the Unix username.   1     There might be a different wildcard, however.3   Davidm   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 14:30:46 GMT7& From: jlsue <jefflsxxxz@sbcglobal.net>? Subject: Re: OpenVMS Itanium port progressing well says Gorham!A8 Message-ID: <s1kvavkm0u784hcsf9u31b71abpug9dcod@4ax.com>  7 On Tue, 29 Apr 2003 20:17:36 -0500, "David J. Dachtera"  <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote:   >  > G >Y'know, I've always chafed at that argument: put out small, low-pricedi- >machines and we'll kill our high-end sales. c > @ >Seems to me a case of the tail wagging the dog. If you know howI >consumers will respond, don't bemoan it and price your product right outu >of the market, EXPLOIT IT!   J But if you're in a market that you've got a good hold on and can sustain aK higher price (i.e., inelastic demand?), then you'd be nuts as a corporationC not to try to make more profit.a  H Back in the 80's this was still a possibility for some tech companies...D and it appeared that DEC thought it was the reality when they priced- VAXstations.  The market thought differently.-   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 03:33:43 -0400 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>/ Subject: OT: Crocodile hunter to the rescue !!! ) Message-ID: <3EAF7C48.4E52BC17@istop.com>P  K Steve Irwin (Crododile hunter) saved the day in Vanuatu by catching a rogue L estuarine crocodile who was terrorizing people on the beaches and flying himI back in a Twin Otter to a river where he was believed to have originated.-  H He, of course, had a film crew with him and said it was difficult to fit( everyone AND the croc in the floatplane.  N What does this have to do with VMS ? Crocs, like VMS, may be old, but they areK extremely powerful, reliable and always succeed at what they try to do. And M after a good meal, a Croc can go for a very long time without any maintenance  or other meals.2   ------------------------------   Date: 30 Apr 2003 09:47:22 EST4 From: byer@cartman.ourservers.net (Robert Alan Byer): Subject: Question About Safely Changing File Attributes...1 Message-ID: <mTY+$RZCTxIJ@cartman.ourservers.net>    Question...u  N I'm working on porting over some Unix software to OpenVMS and I'm running into& a little problem with file attributes.  O The Unix files are in StreamLF format, and of couse my VMS files arn't.  I need M to append a file of code to the end of some of the Unix files, but when I use-L the append command in my build script it complains about the file attributes0 not being the same.  It works, but it complains.  N I've tried doing a "SET FILE /ATTRIBUTES" but when I do, the file gets emptied which does me no good.   So my questions are...  K One, is there a way in a DCL script to supress the warnings from the APPENDvJ commmand as I don't want the user to see them if I have to go the "append" route?  L Two, is there a way I can set the file attributes that dosen't clean out the file?d   Thanks in advance.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:35:44 -04001$ From: Mike Duffy <Duffy@process.com>> Subject: RE: Question About Safely Changing File Attributes...J Message-ID: <63D30D6E10CFD11190A90000F805FE860492B140@lespaul.process.com>   > -----Original Message-----H > From: byer@cartman.ourservers.net [mailto:byer@cartman.ourservers.net]* > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2003 10:47 AM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.ComO< > Subject: Question About Safely Changing File Attributes... >  >  > 
 > Question...l > @ > I'm working on porting over some Unix software to OpenVMS and  > I'm running into( > a little problem with file attributes. > = > The Unix files are in StreamLF format, and of couse my VMS c > files arn't.  I need: > to append a file of code to the end of some of the Unix  > files, but when I use ? > the append command in my build script it complains about the 0 > file attributes 2 > not being the same.  It works, but it complains. > ? > I've tried doing a "SET FILE /ATTRIBUTES" but when I do, the n > file gets emptied2 > which does me no good. >  > So my questions are... > > > One, is there a way in a DCL script to supress the warnings  > from the APPENDe@ > commmand as I don't want the user to see them if I have to go  > the "append" > route? >    Please see HELP SET MESSAGE.  : You'll want to also use $STATUS to ensure the status value; is what you think it is and take appropriate action if someu other value is returned.  9 > Two, is there a way I can set the file attributes that 2 > dosen't clean out the  > file?  >   9 Since you're APPENDing, I would suggest a one-time use ofv7 CONVERT.  (Use a non-appended UNIX file to generate the 8 appropriate FDL file and use it to convert the VMS file.7 Subsequent appends should work without complaint.  This  will make SET MESSAGE moot.    -Mike Duffy    > Thanks in advance. >    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 11:40:31 -0400  From: norm.raphael@metso.com> Subject: Re: Question About Safely Changing File Attributes...? Message-ID: <OFBE78657E.760A6A7C-ON85256D18.005520F6@metso.com>   $ 1)  To suppress the messages, either! $sav_msg=f$environment("MESSAGE")e< $ set message /nofacility/noseverity/noidentification/notext $ append...e $set message 'sav_msg'   or   $Define/user sys$output nl:  $Define/user sys$error nl:
 $append...  E Either should make the messages go away, but both will make any other- messages go away as well.   G 2)  You are not clear about which file attributes are on the source and  which-J on the target files, or why the set file/attr command is causing you pain.E This command should never delete anything from any file, so something  else is really happening.   7 Perhaps what you need is convert/fdl before the append.   % A concrete example would really help.     I From:  byer@cartman.ourservers.net (Robert Alan Byer) on 04/30/2003 10:47 	        AMN  @ Please respond to byer@cartman.ourservers.net (Robert Alan Byer)   To:    Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com cc:   = Subject:    Question About Safely Changing File Attributes...a       Question...0  I I'm working on porting over some Unix software to OpenVMS and I'm running  into& a little problem with file attributes.  J The Unix files are in StreamLF format, and of couse my VMS files arn't.  I needI to append a file of code to the end of some of the Unix files, but when I  use A the append command in my build script it complains about the files
 attributes0 not being the same.  It works, but it complains.  F I've tried doing a "SET FILE /ATTRIBUTES" but when I do, the file gets emptied6 which does me no good.   So my questions are...  K One, is there a way in a DCL script to supress the warnings from the APPENDnJ commmand as I don't want the user to see them if I have to go the "append" route?  H Two, is there a way I can set the file attributes that dosen't clean out the  file?    Thanks in advance.   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 11:55:47 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)s> Subject: Re: Question About Safely Changing File Attributes...3 Message-ID: <hAgqmLJj8+xw@eisner.encompasserve.org>r  h In article <mTY+$RZCTxIJ@cartman.ourservers.net>, byer@cartman.ourservers.net (Robert Alan Byer) writes: >  > M > One, is there a way in a DCL script to supress the warnings from the APPENDmL > commmand as I don't want the user to see them if I have to go the "append" > route?  E    You can "set message/notext/nowarning/nofacility/noseverity".  ButoD    make sure you "set message/text/warning/facility/severity" on any2    error path that leaves the script.  Or you can N    "define/user_mode sys$error nla0:" and "define/user_mode sys$output nla0:",1    both of which will go away when append exists.3  N > Two, is there a way I can set the file attributes that dosen't clean out the > file?   G    You don't want to set the attributes.  That tells VMS to look at thewD    same data and meta-data in a different way, often making the dataK    unreachable.  You want to convert from one file type to another.  Check a    out:t         analyze/rms/fdlt'       edit/fdl (change the record type)e       convert/fdla  D    that will change the meta-data to match.  You only need to do theF    analyze and edit once, then you can convert a whole bunch of files.   ------------------------------   Date: 30 Apr 2003 07:51:21 GMT3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann)m2 Subject: Re: Random access to the TZ89 tape system0 Message-ID: <b8nv9p$abq$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>  P In article <3EAF484C.61757290@cha.ab.ca>, Lee Y T Mah <lytmah@cha.ab.ca> writes:K >End of my search.  I require the sequential mode with the autoload feature < >more than the convenience of random access.  Thanks to all.  H I wrote a program to control my loaders here. I had the same problem andI therefore implemented commands like "load next" or "unload next" which my N backup procedures call to get the next tape or to unload the current tape intoD the next free slot. If you would like to give it a try, let me know.   Regards,    Christoph Gartmann-  H -- --------------------------------------------------------------------+H | Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452 |H | Immunbiologie                                                        |H | Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de     |H | D-79011  Freiburg, Germany                                           |H +------------- http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.html -------------+   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:58:21 -0700i. From: "David D Miller" <ddmiller@raytheon.com>% Subject: Re: RZ26-B in the real world F Message-ID: <OFA1D7DC1F.95A0CEC0-ON07256D18.004CA408@rsc.raytheon.com>   Chris   E Thanks for the offer.  I found ST11200Ns on eBay that will work fine.e   dave./       David D Miller wrote:e >  > Folks: > K > My recently acquired VAXstation 3100/48 needs a system disk.  What is thenJ > Seagate/Quantum/Maxtor equivalent of a 1 GB drive (RZ26-B I believe)?  I3 > want to search eBay with the proper model number.  >  > dave.2  > If you can handle a 5 1/4" disk, the ST41200N works very well.  = If you need a BA42 box for a 5 1/4" disk, please let me know.n  G -----------------------------------------------------------------------<$ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  B Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com   Fax: 817-237-3074r   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 07:11:30 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)e% Subject: Re: stupid keyboard questione3 Message-ID: <ovFDzjY08ljD@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  \ In article <dqhuav4ubclr0hv60rcsaj6fli8dki3vpg@4ax.com>, Beyonder <beyonder@vrx.net> writes:6 > I have an LK201 keyboard and it just dawned on me... >   D    I've been using control-[ for decades.  (I refuse to move ~` from8    where it is on my LK401, and I've got LK201 at home).   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:47:05 -0400i$ From: Mike Duffy <Duffy@process.com>% Subject: RE: stupid keyboard questioneJ Message-ID: <63D30D6E10CFD11190A90000F805FE860492B13E@lespaul.process.com>   > -----Original Message-----* > From: Beyonder [mailto:beyonder@vrx.net]( > Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2003 11:49 PM > To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Comd# > Subject: stupid keyboard question  >  > 6 > I have an LK201 keyboard and it just dawned on me... > * > where the heck is the ESC (escape) key ? > E > doesn't seem to be labelled. How do I do it? ctrl-27 ? compose-27 ?i > G > I know its a real stupid question, and I hadn't noticed before today.s >   > any help would be appreciated. >  > B. >a  6 I've seen the other answers posted, but have not seen  this information yet:f  5 My LK201s have the little slide-in strips to indicate-6 what the function keys do, and ESC corresponds to F11.4 Apparently, you do not have one of these, so here's  the entire list:   F1 = Hold Screen F2 = Print Screen 
 F3 = Setup
 F5 = Break	 F11 = ESC. F12 = BS F13 = LF  " The remaining keys are unlabelled.   -Mike Duffyo   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:54:03 +0100 (MET))9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> % Subject: Re: stupid keyboard question ; Message-ID: <01KVCE8R729UAKVGCS@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>u  7 > My LK201s have the little slide-in strips to indicate 8 > what the function keys do, and ESC corresponds to F11.6 > Apparently, you do not have one of these, so here's  > the entire list: >  > F1 = Hold Screen > F2 = Print Screen  > F3 = Setup > F5 = Break > F11 = ESCw
 > F12 = BS
 > F13 = LF  H IIRC, F11, F12 and F13 do not REALLY send ESC, BS and LF.  Rather, they E send some codes which are interpreted by many VMS applications as if S they were ESC, BS and LF.e   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:05:12 +0100 , From: Paul Williams <flo@uk.thalesgroup.com>% Subject: Re: stupid keyboard question 2 Message-ID: <3EAFD818.8FEF347F@uk.thalesgroup.com>   Mike Duffy wrote:  > 7 > My LK201s have the little slide-in strips to indicateP8 > what the function keys do, and ESC corresponds to F11.   [snip]   > F11 = ESCI
 > F12 = BS
 > F13 = LF  F A VT220 and VT320 will only send these controls when they are put intoC VT100 mode, because the VT100 keyboard had dedicated keys for theseo three functions.   - Paul   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 11:46:25 -0500; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)m% Subject: RE: stupid keyboard questionh3 Message-ID: <u5CtPezetdHB@eisner.encompasserve.org>e  q In article <63D30D6E10CFD11190A90000F805FE860492B13E@lespaul.process.com>, Mike Duffy <Duffy@process.com> writes:a > 8 > I've seen the other answers posted, but have not seen  > this information yet:l > 7 > My LK201s have the little slide-in strips to indicateu8 > what the function keys do, and ESC corresponds to F11.6 > Apparently, you do not have one of these, so here's  > the entire list: >  > F1 = Hold Screen > F2 = Print Screen  > F3 = Setup > F5 = Break > F11 = ESC 
 > F12 = BS
 > F13 = LF  E    This is somewhat application dependent.  If I understand correctlybG    F11 doesn't send ESC, but some applications will treat it as escape.   E    Kind of like using Alt-mode on our Teledyne tty for escape so TECOe@    could be used on our PDP-10.  You just had to set it up in an    initialization file.v   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:38:31 +02004% From: "Igor" <igor.fosic@os.hinet.hr>w Subject: terminal printert* Message-ID: <b8o228$2hto$1@as201.hinet.hr>  J Can I get information about printer connected to my terminal. I would likeJ to make procedure which can recognize what type of printer is connected to	 terminal.b   thanks!h   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 08:48:10 -0400 ' From: "Bill Clark" <bclark_at_lrgh.org>x Subject: Re: Upgrade Query2 Message-ID: <9UWdncxzeax3WDKjXTWcpQ@metrocast.net>   greetings -n1     thanks for the response, especially since youy    said what i wanted to hear ! 4     ... yes, multiple backups 'before and after' are     planned... :>t  "  b underscore clark at usa dot net  ) <norm.raphael@metso.com> wrote in messagee9 news:OFF0C362F2.E11A36D5-ON85256D17.006EBC6D@metso.com...s > G > In general, the patches for any version are dropped and you will needdL > to get and install the new patches after/during the upgrade for the higherG > version.  Unless the patches are to PCSI, they most likely would be a G > waste of time/energy to do before the upgrade - providing you are note > having crashes, of course. > E > You have read the release notes, and will make several good backupsP > before proceding, yes? >  > 8 > From:  not@this.time (FullName) on 04/29/2003 02:59 PM > , > Please respond to not@this.time (FullName) >r > To:    Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com > cc:  >b > Subject:    Upgrade Querys >e >e > greetingso6 >      am about to upgrade OpenvVMS from 7.1-2 to 7.2.= >      have not installed several 'non-critical' patches thatp% >      are available for version 7.1.s; >      is it imperative that all patches for one version bem: >      installed before an upgrade, or can the 'fixes'  be/ >      expected as features of the new version?s >      thanks in advance.e > # > b underscore clark at usa dot netp >o >  >e >d >  >r   ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 01:53:25 -0700" From: kusharma@hss.hns.com (Kunal)6 Subject: URGENT HELP REQD. : Problem in Ingres session= Message-ID: <9448921e.0304300053.1cb7e473@posting.google.com>i   Hi,r  G In  trying to connect to an INGRES database thro' a VAX Pascal program,U" I am getting the following error :  H %SYSTEM-F-RADRMOD, reserved addressing fault at PC=00687128,PSL=03C00000   The commands involved are  :   ##   Ingres    <DatabaseName>s1 ##   SET LOCKMODE SESSION WHERE READLOCK = NOLOCKo  A The database name is valid - I can't figure out what could be theeG problem or even what a reserved addressing fault means in this context.   F Could anyone please suggest what this error  means in this context, orD at least suggest a few things I might check up to figure out what is
 going wrong ?t   Thanx in advance,t   Kunal (kusharma@hss.hns.com)   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 07:15:38 GMTa6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)# Subject: [GOOGLE] Missing article ?l3 Message-ID: <uKKra.89126$v62.940511@news.chello.at>o  I Four days ago i posted an article <Hxwqa.17751$v62.170443@news.chello.at>nH "[TCPIP V5.3 ECO2, DECnet-Plus V7.3-1 ECO2] DHCP Client - Startup Phase"I and got no answers so far. Seems surprising. So I googled and didn't findt@ this posting. Now, I'd like to ask, have you seen this posting ?   -- s Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGERh% Network and OpenVMS system specialistt E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:25:03 +0100s( From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@127.0.0.1>' Subject: Re: [GOOGLE] Missing article ? ) Message-ID: <3EAF885F.95E2CA47@127.0.0.1>r    Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote: > K > Four days ago i posted an article <Hxwqa.17751$v62.170443@news.chello.at>eJ > "[TCPIP V5.3 ECO2, DECnet-Plus V7.3-1 ECO2] DHCP Client - Startup Phase"K > and got no answers so far. Seems surprising. So I googled and didn't find B > this posting. Now, I'd like to ask, have you seen this posting ?   Peter,  $ Yes the article is on our newserver:   Headers:   Path:                     lore.csc.com!nntp.abs.net!news-FFM2.ecrc.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!195.34.132.50.MISMATCH!newsfeed01.chello.at!news.chello.at.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail         Newsgroups: .                    comp.os.vms, de.comp.os.vms             Subject: oB                    [TCPIP V5.3 ECO2, DECnet-Plus V7.3-1 ECO2] DHCP Client - Startup Phase         Followup-To:                      comp.os.vms               From: C                    peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)k           Reply-To: '                    peter@langstoeger.at8        Organization: s4                    OpenVMS Hobbyist, Vienna, AUSTRIA              Lines:                     47d        Message-ID: e:                    <Hxwqa.17751$v62.170443@news.chello.at>               Date: 0                    Sat, 26 Apr 2003 14:17:11 GMT  NNTP-Posting-Host:                      62.178.35.154     X-Complaints-To: c'                    abuse@news.chello.att            X-Trace: G                    news.chello.at 1051366631 62.178.35.154 (Sat, 26 Apro 2003 16:17:11 MEST)t  NNTP-Posting-Date: 1                    Sat, 26 Apr 2003 16:17:11 MESTt               Xref: 2                    lore.csc.com comp.os.vms:165111  E However I've nothing technical to add as I've not had DHCP experiencel (yet?).e   -- a? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences  nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------    Date: 30 Apr 2003 09:35:18 -00004 From: Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]>' Subject: Re: [GOOGLE] Missing article ?s5 Message-ID: <20030430093518.2068.qmail@gacracker.org>   E On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)  wrote:J >Four days ago i posted an article <Hxwqa.17751$v62.170443@news.chello.at>I >"[TCPIP V5.3 ECO2, DECnet-Plus V7.3-1 ECO2] DHCP Client - Startup Phase"dJ >and got no answers so far. Seems surprising. So I googled and didn't findA >this posting. Now, I'd like to ask, have you seen this posting ?y  E It made it to my news server, although never having used TCPIP's DHCPo Client I can't help.     Doc. -- o6 The bigger the humbug, the better people will like it.K ~ Phineas Taylor Barnum.                             https://vmsbox.cjb.netmK                                                    http://althacker.cjb.neto   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 17:59:28 +0200u1 From: Franz-Josef Fornefeld <jo.fornefeld@gmx.de>p' Subject: Re: [GOOGLE] Missing article ?h( Message-ID: <b8p2u1.2q4.1@jo.dyndns.org>    Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER wrote:  K > Four days ago i posted an article <Hxwqa.17751$v62.170443@news.chello.at>HJ > "[TCPIP V5.3 ECO2, DECnet-Plus V7.3-1 ECO2] DHCP Client - Startup Phase"K > and got no answers so far. Seems surprising. So I googled and didn't findaB > this posting. Now, I'd like to ask, have you seen this posting ?   Me.d  3 Pulled from news.westend.com on 2003-04-26 18:00:37a   Complete Headers:o  ,------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ |  Path:news.westend.com!news.rwth-aachen.de!akk.uni-karlsruhe.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!195.34.132.50.MISMATCH!newsfeed01.chello.at!news.chello.at.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail) |  Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,de.comp.os.vmsmQ |  Subject: [TCPIP V5.3 ECO2, DECnet-Plus V7.3-1 ECO2] DHCP Client -Startup Phaser |  Followup-To: comp.os.vms49 |  From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER)t! |  Reply-To: peter@langstoeger.ate2 |  Organization: OpenVMS Hobbyist, Vienna, AUSTRIA |  Lines: 476 |  Message-ID: <Hxwqa.17751$v62.170443@news.chello.at>& |  Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 14:17:11 GMT# |  NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.178.35.154 ( |  X-Complaints-To: abuse@news.chello.atE |  X-Trace: news.chello.at 1051366631 62.178.35.154 (Sat, 26 Apr 2003a |  16:17:11 MEST) 4 |  NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 16:17:11 MEST  `------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.238 ************************