1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 17 Aug 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 453       Contents: Re: 306GB drives! 9 Re: Can I bring up just one node in a 3 node OVMS cluster  Re: Charon-VAX  x VAX 6520% Re: cluster from dec 3000 as firewall  Re: DEC 3000 M500 CXT error ?  DECnet problem Re: DECnet problem$ Re: ES40's going cheap COV Special !% Re: Fast ethernet and DECnet phase IV  Re: HP FUDBusting  Precompiled zip for VMS 6.2  Security -- MicroSoft Style  Website Based on ASP and VMS. ! Re: Website Based on ASP and VMS. P Who needs shadowing when you have smart I/O controllers?  (was Re: 306GB drives! Re: xml web services question   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 05:32:43 GMT % From: "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com>  Subject: Re: 306GB drives!; Message-ID: <%lj%a.93485$o27.2125405@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>   % OK Rob, I'll bite on this discussion.   6 Rob Young <young_r@encompasserve.org> wrote in message- news:Wea6H8AO1F0F@eisner.encompasserve.org... J > In article <5uYZa.78482$7O4.1900368@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>, "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com> writes:L > > According to our sales rep, we should see 306GB EMA style disks shipping > > sometime in November.  > > H > > So, for raw space, thats 84x306 = 25704GB.  25.7 Terrabytes of data.L > > So, If I populate a T-5 configuration with those (4 HSG's with 84 drivesI > > each), I can get  102.8TB of data in 5 feet of data center row space.  > > E > > That's the same amount of space that I have in my existing 36 HSG  cabinets6 > > populated with 18, 36, 72, and a few 144 GB disks. > > C > > I just hope that the 8.7 VCS cards supports that size of drive.  > >  >   > Why or how would you use them?  ; BACKUPS!!!! 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BACKUPS!!!!! More temp space.   Oh, and did I mention backups?   > 7 > Would you put anything mission critical on a 5 member : > RAID-5 (for example) and serve that LUN up to VMS or NT? >   J NT - NO.  Citrix servers can be rebuilt easily.  Not worth putting that on the SAN.  I W2K clusters -  Yes, We do it.  They are using about 3% of my SAN spindle L count.  The Winders world doesn't like to play nice on the SAN.  They are in. the process of moving off the SAN to MSA1000's  I AIX on a COMPAQ SAN.  about 11%.   Hey... Who let them in here.  :-)  You * let one in the door and look what happens.  J VMS Yes!  85% of SAN space.  We have one Production client system that has2 an oracle database on 4 different 6x18GB raidsets.  I Everyone was po-pooing the raidset and no local drives when we set up our I data center.  Our Oracle DBA's told us that we needed bazillions of mount H points.  The other VMS folks told us that we had to have local drive forI page and swap files.  We do not have any noticable sustained disk queues. D You see some during the backup windows, but not the rest of the day.  J When the Compaq/HP performance folks came out to show us how to use the T4G data, they commented that it was a welcome change to see a bunch of VMS H systems that did not have any real performance issues to speak of.  As aK matter of fact, our spikes on CPU/disk where shown to be directly caused by L all of the monitoring/performance collectors!  On some clusters, these where9 the processes that used the most overall CPU and disk IO.   9 > The reason I ask ... is an old favorite subject of mine  > has come up: >  > L http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Lsvhk3%24YxMND%40eisner.encompasserve.o rg&oe=UTF-8&output=gplain  >   I Personally, I think that shadowing is one of the biggest performance hits I that you can take on a VMS system.  Take the redundancy off the VMS level I and put it in the storage controller.  This free's up a lot of the system K resources.  Also, when you have a system crash.  No 6+ hour performance hit K from all the shadow copy merges.  One of the BIG complaints heard from some - of our remote customers with LARGE databases.   K The EVA really is making it potentially possible to do away with shadowing. L You do your backups and redundancy at the disk controller level.  Not at the	 OS level.    > ---  > - > From: Rob Young (young_r@encompasserve.org)   > Subject: Re: disk benchmarking > Newsgroups: comp.os.vms  > Date: 2001-05-29 10:23:36 PST  > G >  What happens when that RAID5 of 4 - 500 GByte drives takes 2 days to E >  restore (5 days?), etc. etc.  That probably won't happen, so where & >  is this headed/used (large drives)? > K BACKUPS!  I would say that at least 1/2 of my SAN space is now dedicated to  backups.  L How many copies of your mission critical data do YOU have on disk Rob???  Or is it all going to tape?L Tape is TOO SLOW for restores!  You had better have at least one copy online to restore from.  L Guess what.  Fairly soon you will not be able to buy those small disk drives anymore.6 Have you tried to purchase any 18GB disks recently????I HP has already phased out the 10K 18GB drive.  You had better hoard them.    > ---  > C > The point is with a 5 member RAID5 and HSG (using those 300 GByte C > drives) - you have a 1.2 TByte LUN.  When/if the RAID5 array blew > > out ( didn't rebuild properly) - you have a 1.2 TByte LUN to
 > restore. > @ > So you wouldn't use RAID5.  Okay, a 360 GByte mirror set blows > out.  You get the picture.  B It all depends on what your management is willing to risk/pay for.J If I could convince my management to double my HSG count, I would not need to have raidsets.  :-)  ? In 3 years, we have had less than 1% failure rate in our disks. 2 Auto-sparing has made a drive failure a non-event.  D Anyone out there actually have an HSG80 raidset that did not rebuild correctly on a drive failure? I I have lost an entire channel twice in the BA-370 models.  Not yet in the  EMA's.   > ? > EVA and others get around this by partitioning - whether true ? > virtualization at the hardware level like EVA does - or other " > clunkier methods of competitors.  G Our EVA (Populated with 146GB drives) is used to server up LARGE backup , drives so that we can SNAP and send to tape.   > 0 > I wouldn't stick 360 GByte drives in an HSG80,  K Actually, it is a 309GB drive. An odd number.  I did not remember correctly  when I posted earlier.  ? > unless of course you could take 5 , 10, 20, 30 hour downtimes ? > for restoration - worst case of course (pick a worst case for D > you - does it ever get less than 5 hours blowing out and restoring> > a modest 360 GByte mirrorset - 20 MByte/sec restore speed?). >   L Worst case is that I restore the raidset from the backup drive.   If it is aI backup drive that goes bad, what do you do?  Restore it? or overwrite it?   H We have seen 35GB/hour average transfer rates on disk-disk in the HSG's.G 75GB/hour going from HSG to EVA.   It all comes down to the question of $ How many drives you need to restore?A How fast you can push it from one SAN drive to another SAN drive. K How many systems you can have transfering it in parralel?  One per drive if B you are doing an image backup.  More if you can split the data up.   Mike   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 03:52:00 -0000 ! From: Z  <zarlenga@conan.ids.net> B Subject: Re: Can I bring up just one node in a 3 node OVMS cluster/ Message-ID: <vjraj01r0mr029@corp.supernews.com>   6 Erkki Rantala <erkki.rantala@invia.fujitsu.com> wrote:L : 1. Dismount node A's system disk (and the dackup device) on nodes B ja C ( : if mounted).> : 2. Shutdown node A (nodes B and C keep the cluster running).   Why bother with this step?   Why not just shut down Node A?   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 16:29:26 -0700 (PDT) . From: Fabio Cardoso <fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br># Subject: Re: Charon-VAX  x VAX 6520 @ Message-ID: <20030816232926.51942.qmail@web20201.mail.yahoo.com>   Robert  , It is this answer I would like to read ! :-)   Thanks     Fabio ! 1 --- Rob Lyons <rob.lyons@resilientsys.com> wrote:  > 6 > Hans Vlems <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> wrote in message3 > news:bhioao$mab$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de...  > J > > Fabio wrote CT/Gateway, that is definitely dedicated equipment. The CTM > > gateway is a VAX 3400 sized cabinet with dedicated hardware to connect to N > > the bus and tag cables of an IBM mainframe. Other systems use SNA softwareM > > components to connect to corresponding services (applications) on the MVS  > or# > > VSE system, like CICS, RJE etc.  > K > I know of nothing available to replace a CT gateway.  The VAX emulator is L > specifically designed to replace the VAX processor, Ethernet adapter, disk< > controller(s), and other on-board VAX processor functions. >  > Rob  >  >      =====  ========================== Fbio dos Santos Cardoso OpenVMS System Manager Rio de Janeiro - Brazil  fabiopenvms@yahoo.com.br ==========================  " __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!?? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software  http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:50:34 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger). Subject: Re: cluster from dec 3000 as firewallL Message-ID: <rdeininger-1508032150340001@user-105n83h.dialup.mindspring.com>  H In article <Xns93D8987AE9951jmwvandijkquicknetnl@213.73.255.21>, "Jeroen/ M.W. van Dijk" <jmw.vandijk@quicknet.nl> wrote:   L >I was wondering if its possible to turn my two single DEC 3000 servers in J >to a cluster that can act as a cluster and uses one ethernet port on the E >internet side and the other on the other node on the local net side.  > F >I have preference for a VMS cluster as those clusters are unhackable.  E I don't know of any current VMS firewall software.  I guess you could  build your own with some work.  E To make a VMS cluster with these systems, you'd need them on a common I ethernet segment.  If you have an add-on ethernet adapter for one system, F the extra network port could be connected to the outside world.  TCPIP/ services for VMS has some routing capabilities.   E Turbochannel ethernet adapters are PMAD-AA.  Same capabilities as the I built-in network on the DEC 3000 systems, except the PMAD only has an AUI C connector.  You might find PMAD modules cheap at ebay or other used  equipment dealers.   ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:22:06 -0400 2 From: rdeininger@mindspring.com (Robert Deininger)& Subject: Re: DEC 3000 M500 CXT error ?L Message-ID: <rdeininger-1508032122060001@user-105n83h.dialup.mindspring.com>  0 In article <3F3487FD.36329C58@swbell.net>, opcom' <nounwantedmail_eccm@swbell.net> wrote:   " >Thanks to all who have answered,  >  ... 9 >I'll try setting the CONSOLE to serial, and SERVER to 1.  > H >My friend from DEC, er.. HP is coming by tomorrow, if I can't figure itB out, he will probably know what to do about the CONSOLE and SERVER environment variables. > F >If the thing will work in spite of the error, I think my friend won'tI mind >issuing the boot command. I'll report back after I try these things  tomorrow. >Thanks!    N I lost this thread when it left comp.os.vms.  Better late than never, perhaps.  9 Here are my notes from the DEC 3000 500 service manual...      -- Robert     < Notes from "DEC 3000 Model 500/500S AXP Service Information" Order number EK-FLAMI-SV.C01
 March 1993     OVERVIEW8 The CXT diagnostic ensures the integrity of the graphics subsystem and monitor.     RUNNING CXT DIAGNOSTICS 1 To run the CXT diagnostics, use the TEST command:   5 >>> T CXT [subtest][?][-v][-d][-cn][-b][-m][-wr][-nc]     
 QUALIFIERSA You can specify the following qualifiers with the CXT diagnostic:    Qualifier      Meaning" ?        Lists available subtests.8 -v       Verbose qualifier, for stepping through a test." -d       Keeps the display active.7 -cn      Font qualifier, where n is the font character. 8 -b       Scrolls black characters on a white background.6 -m       Specifies the multinational font set (8-bit).5 -wr      Specifies the number of rows (r) to stipple. 9 -nl      Specifies the number of lines (l) in a quadrant. > -wr      Specifies the number of rows (r) to copy (copy test).   ERROR REPORTING > The diagnostic reports any error that it finds. Error messages9 include a hexadecimal longword of data and an FRU code to  identify the failing FRU:    >>> TEST CXT ?? 001 CXT XXXXXXXX   J The FRU for all graphics failures is the system module, since that's where% the graphics hardware is soldered in.    CXT DIAGNOSTIC ERROR CODESL The following table contains the error codes produced by the CXT diagnostic:  . All status codes are displayed in hexadecimal.  4 If the diagnostic fails, then perform the following:, 1. Make sure the monitor cable is connected.6 2. Reseat the system module and I/O module connection.: 3. Run the CXT diagnostic to verify system operation. If aA    failure reoccurs, replace FRUs in the following order. Replace =    one FRU at a time and run the CXT diagnostic to ensure the     failure has been corrected.    a. Monitor cable 
    b. Monitor     c. System module    Error  Code     Description 00       VDAC 1: FILL VIDEO RAM ! 02       VDAC 2: ID REGISTER TEST ' 04       VDAC 3: REVISION REGISTER TEST ' 06       VDAC 4: MONITOR CONNECTED TEST & 08       VDAC 5: COMMAND REGISTER TEST! 0A       VDAC 6: OVERLAY RAM TEST  0C       VDAC 7: LOAD COLOR MAP  0E       VDAC 8: COLOR RAM TEST - 10       VDAC 9: CURSOR COMMAND REGISTER TEST ! 12       VDAC 10: CURSOR RAM TEST # 14       VDAC 11: CURSOR COLOR TEST ' 16       VDAC 12: CURSOR CROSSHAIR TEST ' 18       VDAC 13: CURSOR SIGNATURE TEST  20       VRAM 1: LOAD COLOR MAP  22       VRAM 2: WRITE 55 TEST! 24       VRAM 3: READ 55/WRITE AA ! 26       VRAM 4: READ AA/WRITE EE ! 40       BOX 1: LOAD THE GRIP MAP + 42       BOX 2: LOAD THE CIRCLE ON THE GRID  50       PATT 1: FILL VIDEO RAM  52       PATT 2: COLOR BAR TEST 1 54       PATT 3: COLOR BAR REFERENCE VOLTAGE TEST   56       PATT 4: GRAY SCALE TEST  58       PATT 5: RED SCREEN TEST" 5A       PATT 6: GREEN SCREEN TEST! 5C       PATT 7: BLUE SCREEN TEST ' 5E       PATT 8: BLUE - RED SCREEN TEST - 60       PATT 9: BLUE - RED BLUE - GREEN TEST 0 62       PATT 10: RED - BLUE TO RED - GREEN TEST/ 64       PATT 11: COLOR SIGNATURE ANALYSIS TEST # 66       PATT 12: WHITE SCREEN TEST ( 70       INT 1: INTERRUPT ASSERTION TEST! 72       INT 2: NO ASSERTION TEST 3 80       REG 1: REGISTER WRITE/READ AND ACCESS TEST ( 90       STIP 1: STIPPLE FOREGROUND TEST( 92       STIP 2: STIPPLE BACKGROUND TEST) 94       STIP 3: STIPPLE INCREMENTAL TEST & 96       STIP 4: STIPPLE VRAM XOR TEST7 A0       LINE 1: TRANSPARENT SHORT LINE (TRIANGLE) TEST : A2       LINE 2: TRANSPARENT CENTERED HORIZONTAL LINE TEST; A4       LINE 3: TRANSPARENT ALTERNATE HORIZONTAL LINE TEST 8 A6       LINE 4: TRANSPARENT CENTERED VERTICAL LINE TESTA A8       LINE 5: TRANSPARENT DIAGONAL LINE DECREMENT ADDRESS TEST A AA       LINE 6: TRANSPARENT DIAGONAL LINE INCREMENT ADDRESS TEST : AC       LINE 7: TRANSPARENT M < 1 XA < XB QUADRANT 1 TEST: AE       LINE 8: TRANSPARENT M < 1 XA > XB QUADRANT 2 TEST: B0       LINE 9: TRANSPARENT M > 1 XA < XB QUADRANT 1 TEST; B2       LINE 10: TRANSPARENT M > 1 XA > XB QUADRANT 2 TEST 7 B4       LINE 11: OPAQUE M < -1 XA < XB QUADRANT 3 TEST 7 B6       LINE 12: OPAQUE M < -1 XA > XB QUADRANT 4 TEST 7 B8       LINE 13: OPAQUE M > -1 XA < XB QUADRANT 3 TEST 7 BA       LINE 14: OPAQUE M > -1 XA > XB QUADRANT 4 TEST * BC       LINE 15: LINE SIGNATURE MODE TEST' C0       COPY 1: COPY ALIGNED DATA TEST 0 C2       COPY 2: COPY ALIGNED 1 TO 32 BYTES TEST6 D0       BOOL 1: BOOLEAN SIMPLE FRAME BUFFER MODE TEST* D2       BOOL 2: BOOLEAN STIPPLE MODE TEST' D4       BOOL 3: BOOLEAN COPY MODE TEST " E0       PLANE 1: PLANE WRITE TEST. F0       PSHIFT 1: 32 BYTE POSITIVE SHIFT TEST. F2       PSHIFT 1: 32 BYTE NEGATIVE SHIFT TEST$ 110      FONT 1: SHUT OFF THE CURSOR 112      FONT 2: FILL SCREEN   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 11:43:10 +0000 (UTC) . From: Dennis Grevenstein <dennis@pcde.inka.de> Subject: DECnet problem , Message-ID: <bhl5ce$9k1$1@aton.pcde.inka.de>   Hi,   = I've got two VMS boxes: an Alphastation 200 running 7.3 and a 9 MicroVAX 3100/96 running 7.2. Both of them work prefectly : standalone, but if they are connected to the same Ethernet= network they both freeze the moment they have DECnet running. 8 They cluster as long as one of them does not run DECnet.< It's something I have never seen before. They have different+ DECnet addresses. What could be wrong here?    mfg  Dennis   --  L "I remarked to Dennis that easily half the code I was writing in Multics wasO error recovery code. He said, "We left all that stuff out. If there's an error, N we have this routine called panic, and when it is called, the machine crashes,0 and you holler down the hall, 'Hey, reboot it.'"K        Tom van Vleck and Dennis Ritchie about Multics <-> UNIX relationship    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 14:29:45 GMT % From: "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com>  Subject: Re: DECnet problem ; Message-ID: <tdr%a.93510$o27.2140218@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>   * Are you running Pase IV, Phase V, or both?  0 I have to set my DECNET information in 3 places.
 MODPARAMS.DAT 
 NET$CONFIGURE  DECNET_REGISTER.  - Show the DECNET addresses in DECNET_REGISTER. H This will show you the MAC address that they put out on a TCPIP network.% Check to see that they are different.   E Also, are you sure that they have the same cluster group number,  and 	 password? 	 MC SYSMAN  SET ENV/CLUSTER  SET PROF/PRIV=ALL 2 CONFIG SET CLUSTER/PASS={Password}/GROUP={Group #}    9 Dennis Grevenstein <dennis@pcde.inka.de> wrote in message & news:bhl5ce$9k1$1@aton.pcde.inka.de... > Hi,  > ? > I've got two VMS boxes: an Alphastation 200 running 7.3 and a ; > MicroVAX 3100/96 running 7.2. Both of them work prefectly < > standalone, but if they are connected to the same Ethernet? > network they both freeze the moment they have DECnet running. : > They cluster as long as one of them does not run DECnet.> > It's something I have never seen before. They have different- > DECnet addresses. What could be wrong here?  >  > mfg  > Dennis >  > --J > "I remarked to Dennis that easily half the code I was writing in Multics was J > error recovery code. He said, "We left all that stuff out. If there's an error,G > we have this routine called panic, and when it is called, the machine  crashes,2 > and you holler down the hall, 'Hey, reboot it.'"@ >        Tom van Vleck and Dennis Ritchie about Multics <-> UNIX relationship   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 21:14:41 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> - Subject: Re: ES40's going cheap COV Special ! ' Message-ID: <3F3EE511.54620623@fsi.net>   
 Island wrote:  >  > FYI People - > G > If you are running an Alphaserver 4100 - this is the perfect upgrade!   A YES! We saw a wonderful improvement in performance - not just I/O C throughput due to faster SCSI, but also MUCH better CPU throughput!   A A satisfied customer... (got it through one of my vendors at work  though; sorry, David)    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 03:02:26 GMT % From: "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com> . Subject: Re: Fast ethernet and DECnet phase IV; Message-ID: <69h%a.93467$o27.2116930@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>   L > Yup, but the switch was bought on my own budget. It had to be cheap and isG > thus an unmanaged switch. I guess that what you get at that price. It  seems K > to follow the half-duplex setting well. Sending data from a VMS system to  a G > PC went as fast as 8500 kB/s. From Tru64 to the same pc exceeded 9000  kB/s. H > Uploading from the PC was a lot worse, both systems remained below 750 kB/s. / > The PC is connected to an E-Tech ADSL router.  >   > Just out of curiousity, What kind/brand of switch did you buy?J I know that the Linksys are not that expensive, and I believe that you can0 manage them.  I'll need to go hunt up my docs...   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 18:57:51 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> Subject: Re: HP FUDBusting- Message-ID: <878yptx428.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   ( peter@abbnm.com (Peter da Silva) writes:  / > In article <878ypw5bby.fsf@prep.synonet.com>, 0 > Paul Repacholi  <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote:  A >> RSX explicitly overmapped APR0 I and D so the MARK instruction  >> would work.   > Ah.   E > So, the PDP-11 supported a non-executable stack in some models, but $ > RSX explicitly made it executable.  
 Sort of...  E I think it was the RSX dev group's self defenceive move, they did NOT F want to explain to some one why their code would not work if they everG used a MARK. It was runoured that there was one place in RSTS that they  could have used a MARK...        --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:21:21 +0200 ( From: Leif Holmgren <nobody@nowhere.com>$ Subject: Precompiled zip for VMS 6.2* Message-ID: <3F3DCD61.2060807@nowhere.com>   Hello!  ? After 13 years as a VMS user of which the first 7 where rather  = intensivem the company I work for has now shut down the last  H applications on one of our VAX-machines. The software was used during a H part of our business that no longer exists, so at least I am pleased to E say that the VAX was not replaced by any Windows or Solaris machines.   G Now I have some old private data on this vax that I would want to take  H with me. Now this is rather much and I want to zip, tar or whatever the * data into a few files before ftp-ing them.  H Problem: I can't find any compiles zip, tar or such software for VMS on F the internet. I could settle for a .OLD that I linked myself. An even H better solution would be vms-compatible backup and library programs for  windows.  D Any suggestions, or information on where I can find anything useful.   /Leif    ------------------------------  % Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:15:12 -0400 # From: "rob kas" <rob@paychoice.com> $ Subject: Security -- MicroSoft Style8 Message-ID: <6Ue%a.992$aw5.98064490@news.netcarrier.net>  L    Tough to have faith in Microsoft Security , when their own solution is to turn off the Web Site.    6 http://news.com.com/2100-1002_3-5064433.html?tag=cd_mh    0                                              Rob   ------------------------------    Date: 16 Aug 2003 12:59:26 -0700  From: omribi@zahav.net.il (Omri)& Subject: Website Based on ASP and VMS.< Message-ID: <9fe63810.0308161159.365d3ef@posting.google.com>   Hi, % I have VMS 6.2 with some application. L I want to create intranet based on Windows2000/IIS5 Server and ASP/VBSCRIPT.I I Need this intranet to read/update information from the VMS Application. 0 The VMS Application using DBF files as Database.I I Think that Ericom have the soultion for that (PowerTerm Host Publisher)  Someone know another options?    Thanks,  Omri.    ------------------------------    Date: 16 Aug 2003 21:47:43 -0700# From: dooleys@snowy.net.au (dooley) * Subject: Re: Website Based on ASP and VMS.= Message-ID: <1ca82fc6.0308162047.2f89154c@posting.google.com>   d omribi@zahav.net.il (Omri) wrote in message news:<9fe63810.0308161159.365d3ef@posting.google.com>... > Hi, ' > I have VMS 6.2 with some application. N > I want to create intranet based on Windows2000/IIS5 Server and ASP/VBSCRIPT.K > I Need this intranet to read/update information from the VMS Application. 2 > The VMS Application using DBF files as Database.K > I Think that Ericom have the soultion for that (PowerTerm Host Publisher)  > Someone know another options?  > : On your IIS server you need to install an odbc driver and 9 define an odbc datasource that points to the vms machine. 7 The odbc driver depends on the database on the vms box, & ie. oracle driver for oracle database.7 As long as the vms end is configured to accept incoming  connections it should work. 0 Oracle config is in sqlnet.ora and tnsnames.ora,0 and all connections need a vms username/password with appropriate db rights. 8 If you are not using oracle then it will not be as easy. Phil   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2003 08:45:39 GMT + From: Ryan Moore <rmoore@rmoore.dyndns.org> Y Subject: Who needs shadowing when you have smart I/O controllers?  (was Re: 306GB drives! 6 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.56.0308160118130.14612@jaipur>  & On Sat, 16 Aug 2003, Mike Naime wrote:D > It all depends on what your management is willing to risk/pay for.L > If I could convince my management to double my HSG count, I would not need > to have raidsets.  :-) > A > In 3 years, we have had less than 1% failure rate in our disks. 4 > Auto-sparing has made a drive failure a non-event. > F > Anyone out there actually have an HSG80 raidset that did not rebuild > correctly on a drive failure?   E Yep.  We had a RAID 0+1 set.  Total of 4 spindles.  One of the drives J failed.  The HSG twiddled its thumbs and did nothing.  Turned out it was aH bug in the HSG firmware when you have redundant controllers.  Apparently1 each thought the other was going to do something.    The fix was:* Set the mirrorset policy to not autospare.6 Manually add the spare drive to the reduced mirrorset.F Set the mirrorset policy back to autospare (although this won't do any= good until we reboot the controller with the fixed firmware).   C Of course it took several hours of reading manuals, pulling out our F hair, and a support call to figure out why our controller wasn't doingI what it was configured to do.  Not to mention worrying that another drive E didn't decide to die.  It's my experience that drive failures tend to  happen in bursts.   K > I have lost an entire channel twice in the BA-370 models.  Not yet in the  > EMA's.  I We once had a scenario where both of our redundant I/O controllers failed E simultaneously.  It was an HSJ40 or HSJ50 pair.  Don't quite remember G since it was a couple of years back.  Host-based volume shadowing saved 
 our butts.  G And given the glitch we've just experienced with autospare not working, I I sure wouldn't feel comfortable putting all my bags in the basket of the  I/O controller not messing up.  B What happens if a drive fails such that it locks a whole SCSI bus?F This isn't theoretical, it could happen.  Do you have enough spares inI one cabient so that if a whole bus fails, you're still covered?  Hardware % failure can cause all kinds of havoc.   D What if the power to one of your racks goes nuts and surges for someJ reason and somehow manages to cook a lot of components?  Your rack is onlyH as good as the power coming to it.  We've had weird power events before,6 but never lost a rack.  But nothing would surprise me.  J You can call host-based shadowing a performance hit.  And if you are doingF all writes, sure, it may be a performance hit.  But we are doing aboutJ 50-50 reads and writes.  The reads speed up, the writes slow down.  HardlyG matters much since the write-back cache is on.  Besides, with the HSGs, I we have enough performance margin even if a shadow merge kicks in.  Don't   you have any performance margin?  J And... when I/O controllers decide to do stupid things and/or go belly-up,H you don't lose access to your data.  It's your data and your time... how much is it worth to you?   -Ryan    ------------------------------  # Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 23:53:05 GMT + From: Ryan Moore <rmoore@rmoore.dyndns.org> & Subject: Re: xml web services question6 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.53.0308151652300.12030@jaipur>  J Not sure if you are referring to web services or just an XML parser.  I'veG successfully compiled the Expat XML parser on VMS.  It is a C-based SAX  parser.    http://expat.sourceforge.net/    -Ryan   ' On Fri, 15 Aug 2003, Chuck Aaron wrote: I > Is anyone using xml web services with OpenVMS and if so can you tell me 4 > what product you're using and how you're using it?   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.453 ************************                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            ted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< PORT 147,162,156,46,200,346 >>> 200 Port 200.34 at Host 147.162.156.46 accepted.  <<< 