1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 18 Aug 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 455       Contents: Re: 306GB drives!  Last week at HP World  Memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1 ?" Re: Memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1 ?" Re: Memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1 ?" Re: Memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1 ?" Re: Memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1 ?F Re: running simh VAX simulator with some other microcode than default?! Re: Website Based on ASP and VMS. ! Re: Website Based on ASP and VMS. ! Re: Website Based on ASP and VMS. ! Re: Website Based on ASP and VMS.   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 17:31:51 -0500 % From: "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com>  Subject: Re: 306GB drives!< Message-ID: <kkT%a.110052$6a3.3644352@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>  1 >Main, Kerry <kerry.main@hp.com> wrote in message L news:FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB0C7ABE@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net... >Mike, Rob - > @ >Interesting discussion - here are a few additional thoughts for >consideration:   / Yes, Very interesting.  I am enjoying this one.    > B >Re: monitoring processes impacting system with occasional spikes. > I >Recommend setting these processes up with class scheduler to ensure they G >do not take more than x% of the cpu resources. See SYSMAN> help class.  >   J No real reason too here.  We have some smaller clients that really are notJ taxing the system at all.  The only reason that you see this spike is thatJ the rest of the system is basically idle and doing nothing!  Example.  youL have a DS20 clustered system that is normally operating at about 25% CPU outG of 200%.  When the monitoring processes kick in, you get a brief 1 or 2 L minute spike up to say 50% or 60%, Then we go back to our 25% level.   ThereL is still one unused CPU available.  On a multi CPU config one process cannot take more than one CPU anyways.   H >Re: slots on controller becoming a focus. Yep, certainly a big issue toI >keep in mind. Since the base controllers are the biggest cost, in larger E >Installations, you can run out very quickly - depending on # of disk B >group and mirrorset choices. You are then faced with another base >controller cost.   I The controller itself costs less than the drives that I populate into it. J At least a years ago, I had some quotes for populating a T-5 configurationL of 4 EMA style HSG's with  336 (4x84) disk drives.  If I had used 18GB disksL then it would have cost about $150K/HSG.  If I used 72GB disks, it was aboutK $450K/HSG.  I'm sure that todays cost is even less with the availability of  the 146GB disks, and the EVA.    > D >Re: local drives. While there may be some justification for a temp,D >non-prod type reason for these, I also recommend that when a SAN isF >available, put all important drives (including page/swap) on the SAN.@ >The issue with putting any Prod drives locally is that you thenG >typically need to put in a HW RAID controller which takes up PCI slots I >and also becomes a single point of failure. You could use HBVS for local F >drives, but then if a drive fails, the CPU is involved in re-building1 >and hence cycles are taken away from the system.  > G >Re: disaster tolerant config's. Something to consider is what actually F >recently happened in Toronto (it was in all the press). An individualE >returns to work on 9th day after being told to stay home for 10 days G >because of SARS concern. The person felt fine. Health authorities find I >out and immediately close the entire facility (including the datacenter) G >for 10 days. Period. No "can I take a quick backup?" or "can I just go D >get ..". Everyone leaves and goes home - now. Not to another site - >home. > D >US had similar issues with Anthrax scares a little over a year ago. > E >So, Mike - if this unfortunate event were to happen tomorrow in this I >large datacenter that you have - what would the impact be? Could backups C >and all systems be managed remotely (even if system crashed to >>> 	 >prompt)?   E Consoles -- Yes!  Hitting the power button, or moving a cable. -- NO.   K Backups would be the sticky point.  Backups would run, and the tape monster J would hold the onsite stuff,  but you cannot physically remove the offsite6 tapes if the operators cannot get to the tape library.  E >Point of this is that there are (unfortunately) many more reasons to E >consider DT configs these days and many Customers are now looking at G >100km as the starting discussion for these multi-site config's. We are C >talking to one Customer who wants to do a multi-site Oracle 9i RAC C >cluster on OpenVMS 250km apart [creative clustering and TCPIP load  >balancing).  D >For large config's, I typically recommend a mix of controller basedD >RAID, combined with HBVS. Controller based RAID is great for failedH >drive issues as host controllers, PCI slots, net links (multi-site) andH >systems are not involved in any rebuilding of individual drives. On theG >other hand, HBVS is also good for shadowing across controller sets for G >mission critical applications. Have you ever had a firmware upgrade or ? >some other weird error on one controller take out or hang both 
 >controllers?   I Yes, Firmware upgrades re-boot both storage controllers at the point that K you swap out the old VCS card for the new.  VMS handles this fine and after J the re-boot of both controllers continues on.  AIX and W2K are a differentH matter.    This is (hopefully) a once a year type of maintenance that we4 could actually perform during scheduled maintenance.  L If you take your time, you can avoid most mistakes.   I had one Compaq fieldH service guy that got in a hurry, forgot where and what he was doing, and, re-booted both controllers at the same time.  L Then there is the replacement that goes south.  Something that you have done8 in the past without a problem does not go as advertised.  I >HBVS allows you to look at a disk controller set as a single controller.   L So does the S/P versions of the VCS firmware.  It also saves you 4 SAN portsI per pair of HSG's  This can be a lot of SAN ports in a LARGE data center.   H >Yes, there is some additional write impact, but write back cache on theH >controllers helps to minimize this. There are HBVS parameters which canH >be tuned to minimize any HBVS impact when, in the very rare occurrence,F >a system crashes. In addition, as Rob mentioned, the new HBVS changes- >coming will also be a big help here as well.   F And when this "Rare" event becomes a daily/weekly occurance because ofJ failing hardware, what do you tell the client then?  They are taking it inK the shorts on the OS level.  The system responce time of the running App is 9 not "usable" to them while the shadow copies are running.   J What about the S or P version of the HSG firmware?  Let the controllers doD the copying for you?  You are already buying 2 HSG's and making themL identical.  Why look at it as two systems?  Let the hardware do the work for you!? You still maintain 4 fibre paths into the "storage controllers"   @ This works unless HBVS is the basis for your backup scheme.  :-)  H >Now, should you HBVS all drives and applications? Likely not. CertainlyH >there are always some Apps more important than others and some may only" >require HW DRM to somewhere else.  F >My recommendation is to classify applications with a priority that isC >supported by business justification e.g. a sliding manner based on G >criticality of data and how long the business can do without it. As an C >example - APPs with rating "A" gets HW RAID + HBVS + active-active G >clustering. Apps with rating "B" get HW RAID + HW DRM + active-passive  >clustering.   And if they are all A's???  :-)   G >Unfortunately, what is happening in many businesses today, is that the B >data between Apps in a Customer environment is becoming mush moreA >integrated than in the past, so it is becoming more difficult to  >differentiate between them.  H >At a bare minimum, imho, in view of the recent SARS (and Anthrax beforeH >that) it is absolutely essential that a company be able to manage their3 >systems remotely. This means focus on consoles and  >backup/restore/archiving.  L If there is a physical component (Tapes) to your backup scheme.  Someone hasK to deal with the physical component if that is a removable component.  This K is something that you can not remote unless you duplicate your hardware and L tape libraries in multiple sites.  Even then,  someone somewhere has to walk# into the room and remove the tapes!   B >There are a number of multi-platform console management solutions0 >available to assist with the console component.   Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  Hewlett-Packard (Canada) Co.! Consulting & Integration Services  Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax   : 613-591-4477 Email: kerryDOTmain@hpDOTcom-     (remove the DOT's and replace with "."'s)  OpenVMS DCL - the original .COM    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Aug 2003 18:35:26 -07001 From: susan_skonetski@hotmail.com (Sue Skonetski)  Subject: Last week at HP World= Message-ID: <857e9e41.0308171735.3e1cb763@posting.google.com>    Dear Newsgroup,   F This was my first HP World so I can not compare. The excitment startedC on the trip from Manchester NH. Once we had boarded the plane (last D row in the plane with the seats that do not move and no window).  WeF are all in the plane and the pilot lets us know that there was a screwE missing from the wing.  I was somewhat reassured since I did not know C that they counted screws.  However they had some difficulty finding D the screw but they eventually did.  Then the paper work needed to beE filled out, so finally we are off or so I thought.  We are on our way E to the runway and a man two rows in front of me refuses to put on his F seatbelt and was very nasty to the female flight attendent saying thatB he "would rather die with his seat belt off than with it on.  ThisA does not engender much confidence in the rest of us.  So the male E flight attendant tells him that we can not leave until he puts on his F belt so this guy calls him an F*&&*&ing Moron.  So the plane goes backE to the gate and three of the largest state policeman I have ever seen F get on and take the guy off.  They then have to get his luggage.  ThenD the police get back on and have to take statments and we all have toF identify our carry on's.  So there was  a little delay but finally allE the screws were tightened.   I stayed at the Marriott which is a huge D hotel 1700 hotel rooms, which is where most of the speakers stayed.  Shuttle busses to HP World.   F It was great seeing the leper colony at HP World in Atlanta, Jim H wasD missing which was very obvious to the colony and we have added a new leper Steve to the group.   C I worked one day in the HP booth which was huge and the rest of the F days in the Encompass LUG/SIG booth which was on the trade show floor.B  This is also where we did the VMS t-shirt survey like we do every (DECUS/CETS/HPETS/HP World).  D Since I was working the only sessions I made it to were the ThursdayB General Session with Dean Kamin who was excellent (he invented theF segway and the wheel chair that raises up).  Steve Hoffman's Hints andA Kinks and the Engineering panel and the OpenVMS Strategy by Chris E Brown.  We also had an OpenVMS SIG meeting and an OpenVMS Ambassadors E meeting.  So I can not comment on the technical sessions. On Thursday 4 night there was an HP World Party and I had a blast.  C At the Encompass booth we spoke to loads of people about Local User D Groups and in fact ran out of the "how to start a LUG book".  On Wed< Steve Hoffman spent a couple of hours in the booth answering> questions, John Wisniewski was there making buttons, answeringE questions.  I think we need more space for next year. John also had 2 ; book signings and was the best selling author at the event.   = I also had the opportunity to meet Dirk Munk who posts in the E newsgroup which was great.  Ken Farmer who does OpenVMS.org and Terry + Shannon were also there as was Bruce Ellis.   A Slight correction I had a chance to spend about 10 minutes in Ann E Livermore's general session and she mentioned OpenVMS in the first 10 D seconds, so I was pretty happy.  Other people told me that the otherE executives also mentioned VMS frequently.  I am sure other folks will  post their opinions.  D The folks in Atlanta were very nice, there were great resturants andC of course some real OpenVMS die hards and they told me some awesome  stories.  
 Warm Regards,  Sue    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 14:32:07 -0500 0 From: Keith Brown <kbrown2720@NOSPAMcomcast.net>' Subject: Memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1 ? 0 Message-ID: <Qs-cndssgdWwRqKiXTWJkw@comcast.com>   Hi all,   L I seem to have a memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1.  The main issue is that free L memory is shrinking and Total committed paging file usage is growing. These O trend are continuing after about 3 weeks of uptime. I have been unable to find  P a process which seems to be responsible for this. It really only takes a couple L of days to reach a typical user load on this system after reboot but memory N resources continue to dwindle. Eventually processes start to die because they O have exceeded process quotas(I've been unable to determine which one).  I have  K bumped up pgflquota and enqueue limit (These were specified in the startup  O command file rather than using the UAF setting). I have listed the output from  O SHOW MEM and PRODUCT SHOW HISTORY so you can see my patch history below. There  P is ECO for 7.3-1 that say is fixes increased pagefile usage from PIPE and SPAWN O command but this really doesn't apply to me (I don't think). I didn't have any  > issues like this when I was running 7.1-2 Any recommendations?   XLIMS>$ sho mem @               System Memory Resources on 17-AUG-2003 14:02:18.73  L Physical Memory Usage (pages):     Total        Free      In Use    ModifiedL   Main Memory (1024.00MB)         131072        5750      113847       11475  B Extended File Cache  (Time of last reset: 29-JUL-2003 09:50:15.13)L   Allocated (MBytes)           13.43    Maximum size (MBytes)         512.00L   Free (MBytes)                 0.00    Minimum size (MBytes)           3.12M   In use (MBytes)              13.43    Percentage Read I/Os              15% M   Read hit rate                   93%   Write hit rate                     0% L   Read I/O count             5125637    Write I/O count             27265066L   Read hit count             4802801    Write hit count                    0L   Reads bypassing cache            0    Writes bypassing cache      23892313L   Files cached open              565    Files cached closed              177L   Vols in Full XFC mode            0    Vols in VIOC Compatible mode      10L   Vols in No Caching mode          0    Vols in Perm. No Caching mode      0  L Granularity Hint Regions (pages):  Total        Free      In Use    ReleasedL   Execlet code region               1024           0         910         114L   Execlet data region                416           0         416           0L   S0/S1 Executive data region        853           0         853           0L   Resident image code region        1024           0         866         158  L Slot Usage (slots):                Total        Free    Resident     SwappedL   Process Entry Slots                300         181         108          11L   Balance Set Slots                  298         192         106           0  L Dynamic Memory Usage:              Total        Free      In Use     LargestL   Nonpaged Dynamic Memory (MB)      6.60        0.91        5.69        0.15L   Paged Dynamic Memory    (MB)      3.79        1.81        1.98        1.78@   Lock Manager Dyn Memory (KB)    832.00       75.25      756.75  @ Buffer Object Usage (pages):                  In Use        Peak@   32-bit System Space Windows (S0/S1)              6           6@   64-bit System Space Windows (S2)                 0           0@   Physical pages locked by buffer objects          6           6  L Memory Reservations (pages):       Group    Reserved      In Use        TypeL   ORA_LIMS_SGA                    SYSGBL          26          26  Page TableL   ORA_LIMS_SGA                    SYSGBL       26112       20028   Allocated@   Total (204.20 MBytes reserved)               26138       20054  L Swap File Usage (8KB pages):                   Index        Free        Size)   DISK$ALPHASYS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]SWAPFILE.SYS L                                                    1       30544       31248  L Paging File Usage (8KB pages):                 Index        Free        Size#   DISK$LOGS:[SYSEXE]PAGEFILE2.SYS;1 L                                                  253       56110      124992)   DISK$ALPHASYS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]PAGEFILE.SYS L                                                  254       56096      124992  L   Total size of all paging files:                                     249984L   Total committed paging file usage:                                  412315  N Of the physical pages in use, 5405 pages are permanently allocated to OpenVMS. XLIMS>$          XLIMS>$ product show history *P ----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- --------------------I PRODUCT                             KIT TYPE    OPERATION   DATE AND TIME P ----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- --------------------P DEC AXPVMS TCPIP_ECO V5.3-182       Patch       Install     21-MAR-2003 10:56:33P DEC VMS AMDS V7.3-1A                Full LP     Install     21-MAR-2003 09:03:45P DEC AXPVMS VMS731_F11X V1.0         Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003 12:57:46P DEC AXPVMS VMS731_FIBRE_SCSI V1.0   Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003 12:57:46P DEC AXPVMS VMS731_RMS V2.0          Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003 12:57:46P DEC AXPVMS VMS731_SYS V3.0          Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003 12:57:46P CPQ AXPVMS CDSA V1.0-2              Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26P DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.3-1   Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26P DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-6           Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26P DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.3-1           Platform    Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26P DEC AXPVMS TCPIP V5.3-18            Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26P DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.3-1               Oper System Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26P DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1-2   Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:48:26P DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-4           Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:48:26P DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1-2           Platform    Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:48:26P DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1-2               Oper System Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:48:26P DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.1-12              Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:29:54P DEC AXPVMS UCXECO_41_9 V9.0         Patch       Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:29:54P DEC AXPVMS AMDS V7.1                Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:26:04P DEC AXPVMS SWCC V2.1-133            Full LP     Install     14-JUN-2000 14:41:28P DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1-2   Full LP     Install     19-MAY-1999 13:00:14P DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1-2           Platform    Install     19-MAY-1999 13:00:14P DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1-2               Oper System Install     19-MAY-1999 13:00:14P DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1     Full LP     Remove      19-MAY-1999 13:00:14P DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1             Platform    Remove      19-MAY-1999 13:00:14P DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1                 Oper System Remove      19-MAY-1999 13:00:14P DEC AXPVMS FORRTL V7.1-1            Full LP     Install     28-APR-1999 09:05:00P DEC AXPVMS FORTRAN V7.1-1           Full LP     Install     28-APR-1999 09:05:00P DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999 17:30:00P DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999 17:02:17P DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Remove      26-MAR-1999 16:57:26P DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999 16:47:11P DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Remove      26-MAR-1999 16:43:36P DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999 16:31:24P DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     10-FEB-1999 14:12:26P DEC AXPVMS AMDS V7.1                Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999 17:30:08P DEC AXPVMS UCXECO_41_9 V9.0         Patch       Install     09-FEB-1999 15:14:13P DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1     Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999 12:55:28P DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-4           Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999 12:33:42P DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1             Platform    Install     09-FEB-1999 12:33:42P DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.1-12              Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999 12:33:42P DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1                 Oper System Install     09-FEB-1999 12:33:42P ----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- --------------------   Thanks in advance, Keith    --   Keith Brown    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 22:12:06 GMT " From: Lee <lytmah@telusplanet.net>+ Subject: Re: Memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1 ? / Message-ID: <3F3FFDB0.1EEF86A0@telusplanet.net>   D I see the same situation on our 7.3 nodes.  After a reboot, I noticeA the committed paging file usage gradually incrementing with time. @ Fortunately for us, this is not an issue because we have lots of? memory and 3 paging files.  Our Sysgen parameters are set quite & high.  We hardly do any paging at all.2 I do not recall having this issue in 7.1-2 either.     Keith Brown wrote:  	 > Hi all,  > M > I seem to have a memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1.  The main issue is that free M > memory is shrinking and Total committed paging file usage is growing. These P > trend are continuing after about 3 weeks of uptime. I have been unable to findQ > a process which seems to be responsible for this. It really only takes a couple M > of days to reach a typical user load on this system after reboot but memory O > resources continue to dwindle. Eventually processes start to die because they P > have exceeded process quotas(I've been unable to determine which one).  I haveL > bumped up pgflquota and enqueue limit (These were specified in the startupP > command file rather than using the UAF setting). I have listed the output fromP > SHOW MEM and PRODUCT SHOW HISTORY so you can see my patch history below. ThereQ > is ECO for 7.3-1 that say is fixes increased pagefile usage from PIPE and SPAWN P > command but this really doesn't apply to me (I don't think). I didn't have any@ > issues like this when I was running 7.1-2 Any recommendations? >  > XLIMS>$ sho mem B >               System Memory Resources on 17-AUG-2003 14:02:18.73 > N > Physical Memory Usage (pages):     Total        Free      In Use    ModifiedN >   Main Memory (1024.00MB)         131072        5750      113847       11475 > D > Extended File Cache  (Time of last reset: 29-JUL-2003 09:50:15.13)N >   Allocated (MBytes)           13.43    Maximum size (MBytes)         512.00N >   Free (MBytes)                 0.00    Minimum size (MBytes)           3.12O >   In use (MBytes)              13.43    Percentage Read I/Os              15% O >   Read hit rate                   93%   Write hit rate                     0% N >   Read I/O count             5125637    Write I/O count             27265066N >   Read hit count             4802801    Write hit count                    0N >   Reads bypassing cache            0    Writes bypassing cache      23892313N >   Files cached open              565    Files cached closed              177N >   Vols in Full XFC mode            0    Vols in VIOC Compatible mode      10N >   Vols in No Caching mode          0    Vols in Perm. No Caching mode      0 > N > Granularity Hint Regions (pages):  Total        Free      In Use    ReleasedN >   Execlet code region               1024           0         910         114N >   Execlet data region                416           0         416           0N >   S0/S1 Executive data region        853           0         853           0N >   Resident image code region        1024           0         866         158 > N > Slot Usage (slots):                Total        Free    Resident     SwappedN >   Process Entry Slots                300         181         108          11N >   Balance Set Slots                  298         192         106           0 > N > Dynamic Memory Usage:              Total        Free      In Use     LargestN >   Nonpaged Dynamic Memory (MB)      6.60        0.91        5.69        0.15N >   Paged Dynamic Memory    (MB)      3.79        1.81        1.98        1.78B >   Lock Manager Dyn Memory (KB)    832.00       75.25      756.75 > B > Buffer Object Usage (pages):                  In Use        PeakB >   32-bit System Space Windows (S0/S1)              6           6B >   64-bit System Space Windows (S2)                 0           0B >   Physical pages locked by buffer objects          6           6 > N > Memory Reservations (pages):       Group    Reserved      In Use        TypeN >   ORA_LIMS_SGA                    SYSGBL          26          26  Page TableN >   ORA_LIMS_SGA                    SYSGBL       26112       20028   AllocatedB >   Total (204.20 MBytes reserved)               26138       20054 > N > Swap File Usage (8KB pages):                   Index        Free        Size+ >   DISK$ALPHASYS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]SWAPFILE.SYS N >                                                    1       30544       31248 > N > Paging File Usage (8KB pages):                 Index        Free        Size% >   DISK$LOGS:[SYSEXE]PAGEFILE2.SYS;1 N >                                                  253       56110      124992+ >   DISK$ALPHASYS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]PAGEFILE.SYS N >                                                  254       56096      124992 > N >   Total size of all paging files:                                     249984N >   Total committed paging file usage:                                  412315 > P > Of the physical pages in use, 5405 pages are permanently allocated to OpenVMS.	 > XLIMS>$  >   > XLIMS>$ product show history *R > ----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- --------------------K > PRODUCT                             KIT TYPE    OPERATION   DATE AND TIME R > ----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- --------------------R > DEC AXPVMS TCPIP_ECO V5.3-182       Patch       Install     21-MAR-2003 10:56:33R > DEC VMS AMDS V7.3-1A                Full LP     Install     21-MAR-2003 09:03:45R > DEC AXPVMS VMS731_F11X V1.0         Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003 12:57:46R > DEC AXPVMS VMS731_FIBRE_SCSI V1.0   Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003 12:57:46R > DEC AXPVMS VMS731_RMS V2.0          Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003 12:57:46R > DEC AXPVMS VMS731_SYS V3.0          Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003 12:57:46R > CPQ AXPVMS CDSA V1.0-2              Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.3-1   Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-6           Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.3-1           Platform    Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS TCPIP V5.3-18            Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.3-1               Oper System Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1-2   Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-4           Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1-2           Platform    Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1-2               Oper System Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.1-12              Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:29:54R > DEC AXPVMS UCXECO_41_9 V9.0         Patch       Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:29:54R > DEC AXPVMS AMDS V7.1                Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:26:04R > DEC AXPVMS SWCC V2.1-133            Full LP     Install     14-JUN-2000 14:41:28R > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1-2   Full LP     Install     19-MAY-1999 13:00:14R > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1-2           Platform    Install     19-MAY-1999 13:00:14R > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1-2               Oper System Install     19-MAY-1999 13:00:14R > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1     Full LP     Remove      19-MAY-1999 13:00:14R > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1             Platform    Remove      19-MAY-1999 13:00:14R > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1                 Oper System Remove      19-MAY-1999 13:00:14R > DEC AXPVMS FORRTL V7.1-1            Full LP     Install     28-APR-1999 09:05:00R > DEC AXPVMS FORTRAN V7.1-1           Full LP     Install     28-APR-1999 09:05:00R > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999 17:30:00R > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999 17:02:17R > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Remove      26-MAR-1999 16:57:26R > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999 16:47:11R > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Remove      26-MAR-1999 16:43:36R > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999 16:31:24R > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     10-FEB-1999 14:12:26R > DEC AXPVMS AMDS V7.1                Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999 17:30:08R > DEC AXPVMS UCXECO_41_9 V9.0         Patch       Install     09-FEB-1999 15:14:13R > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1     Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999 12:55:28R > DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-4           Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999 12:33:42R > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1             Platform    Install     09-FEB-1999 12:33:42R > DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.1-12              Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999 12:33:42R > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1                 Oper System Install     09-FEB-1999 12:33:42R > ----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- -------------------- >  > Thanks in advance, > Keith  >  > --
 > Keith Brown    -- Lee    lytmah@telusplanet.net   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Aug 2003 18:02:14 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)+ Subject: Re: Memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1 ? < Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0308171702.ca621a6@posting.google.com>  h Keith Brown <kbrown2720@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote in message news:<Qs-cndssgdWwRqKiXTWJkw@comcast.com>...	 > Hi all,  > N > I seem to have a memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1.  The main issue is that free N > memory is shrinking and Total committed paging file usage is growing. These Q > trend are continuing after about 3 weeks of uptime. I have been unable to find  R > a process which seems to be responsible for this. It really only takes a couple N > of days to reach a typical user load on this system after reboot but memory P > resources continue to dwindle. Eventually processes start to die because they Q > have exceeded process quotas(I've been unable to determine which one).  I have  M > bumped up pgflquota and enqueue limit (These were specified in the startup  Q > command file rather than using the UAF setting). I have listed the output from  Q > SHOW MEM and PRODUCT SHOW HISTORY so you can see my patch history below. There  R > is ECO for 7.3-1 that say is fixes increased pagefile usage from PIPE and SPAWN Q > command but this really doesn't apply to me (I don't think). I didn't have any  @ > issues like this when I was running 7.1-2 Any recommendations?   go back to 7.1-2? :)   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:21:09 GMT > From: Michael Austin <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com>+ Subject: Re: Memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1 ? @ Message-ID: <9SV%a.366$vi2.260756523@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>  C make sure you are up to date on all RMS, TCPIP and Oracle patches.  B Oracle had a problem in one version where it would leave orphaned B logical name tables.  I found a script on Metalink (don't rememberD where I put it at the moment that could be edited to show and delete9 any of these name tables - which takes up memory.   do a:  $show mem/pool/full    Thanks,  Michael Austin   Keith Brown wrote:	 > Hi all,  > N > I seem to have a memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1.  The main issue is that free N > memory is shrinking and Total committed paging file usage is growing. These Q > trend are continuing after about 3 weeks of uptime. I have been unable to find  R > a process which seems to be responsible for this. It really only takes a couple N > of days to reach a typical user load on this system after reboot but memory P > resources continue to dwindle. Eventually processes start to die because they Q > have exceeded process quotas(I've been unable to determine which one).  I have nM > bumped up pgflquota and enqueue limit (These were specified in the startup 1Q > command file rather than using the UAF setting). I have listed the output from oQ > SHOW MEM and PRODUCT SHOW HISTORY so you can see my patch history below. There XR > is ECO for 7.3-1 that say is fixes increased pagefile usage from PIPE and SPAWN Q > command but this really doesn't apply to me (I don't think). I didn't have any s@ > issues like this when I was running 7.1-2 Any recommendations? >  > XLIMS>$ sho mem-B >               System Memory Resources on 17-AUG-2003 14:02:18.73 > N > Physical Memory Usage (pages):     Total        Free      In Use    ModifiedN >   Main Memory (1024.00MB)         131072        5750      113847       11475 > D > Extended File Cache  (Time of last reset: 29-JUL-2003 09:50:15.13)N >   Allocated (MBytes)           13.43    Maximum size (MBytes)         512.00N >   Free (MBytes)                 0.00    Minimum size (MBytes)           3.12O >   In use (MBytes)              13.43    Percentage Read I/Os              15% O >   Read hit rate                   93%   Write hit rate                     0%oN >   Read I/O count             5125637    Write I/O count             27265066N >   Read hit count             4802801    Write hit count                    0N >   Reads bypassing cache            0    Writes bypassing cache      23892313N >   Files cached open              565    Files cached closed              177N >   Vols in Full XFC mode            0    Vols in VIOC Compatible mode      10N >   Vols in No Caching mode          0    Vols in Perm. No Caching mode      0 > N > Granularity Hint Regions (pages):  Total        Free      In Use    ReleasedN >   Execlet code region               1024           0         910         114N >   Execlet data region                416           0         416           0N >   S0/S1 Executive data region        853           0         853           0N >   Resident image code region        1024           0         866         158 > N > Slot Usage (slots):                Total        Free    Resident     SwappedN >   Process Entry Slots                300         181         108          11N >   Balance Set Slots                  298         192         106           0 > N > Dynamic Memory Usage:              Total        Free      In Use     LargestN >   Nonpaged Dynamic Memory (MB)      6.60        0.91        5.69        0.15N >   Paged Dynamic Memory    (MB)      3.79        1.81        1.98        1.78B >   Lock Manager Dyn Memory (KB)    832.00       75.25      756.75 > B > Buffer Object Usage (pages):                  In Use        PeakB >   32-bit System Space Windows (S0/S1)              6           6B >   64-bit System Space Windows (S2)                 0           0B >   Physical pages locked by buffer objects          6           6 > N > Memory Reservations (pages):       Group    Reserved      In Use        TypeN >   ORA_LIMS_SGA                    SYSGBL          26          26  Page TableN >   ORA_LIMS_SGA                    SYSGBL       26112       20028   AllocatedB >   Total (204.20 MBytes reserved)               26138       20054 > N > Swap File Usage (8KB pages):                   Index        Free        Size+ >   DISK$ALPHASYS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]SWAPFILE.SYSbN >                                                    1       30544       31248 > N > Paging File Usage (8KB pages):                 Index        Free        Size% >   DISK$LOGS:[SYSEXE]PAGEFILE2.SYS;1rN >                                                  253       56110      124992+ >   DISK$ALPHASYS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]PAGEFILE.SYStN >                                                  254       56096      124992 > N >   Total size of all paging files:                                     249984N >   Total committed paging file usage:                                  412315 > P > Of the physical pages in use, 5405 pages are permanently allocated to OpenVMS.	 > XLIMS>$. >  >  >  >   > XLIMS>$ product show history *R > ----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- --------------------K > PRODUCT                             KIT TYPE    OPERATION   DATE AND TIME R > ----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- --------------------R > DEC AXPVMS TCPIP_ECO V5.3-182       Patch       Install     21-MAR-2003 10:56:33R > DEC VMS AMDS V7.3-1A                Full LP     Install     21-MAR-2003 09:03:45R > DEC AXPVMS VMS731_F11X V1.0         Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003 12:57:46R > DEC AXPVMS VMS731_FIBRE_SCSI V1.0   Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003 12:57:46R > DEC AXPVMS VMS731_RMS V2.0          Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003 12:57:46R > DEC AXPVMS VMS731_SYS V3.0          Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003 12:57:46R > CPQ AXPVMS CDSA V1.0-2              Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.3-1   Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-6           Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.3-1           Platform    Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS TCPIP V5.3-18            Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.3-1               Oper System Install     18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1-2   Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-4           Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1-2           Platform    Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1-2               Oper System Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:48:26R > DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.1-12              Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:29:54R > DEC AXPVMS UCXECO_41_9 V9.0         Patch       Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:29:54R > DEC AXPVMS AMDS V7.1                Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003 12:26:04R > DEC AXPVMS SWCC V2.1-133            Full LP     Install     14-JUN-2000 14:41:28R > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1-2   Full LP     Install     19-MAY-1999 13:00:14R > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1-2           Platform    Install     19-MAY-1999 13:00:14R > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1-2               Oper System Install     19-MAY-1999 13:00:14R > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1     Full LP     Remove      19-MAY-1999 13:00:14R > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1             Platform    Remove      19-MAY-1999 13:00:14R > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1                 Oper System Remove      19-MAY-1999 13:00:14R > DEC AXPVMS FORRTL V7.1-1            Full LP     Install     28-APR-1999 09:05:00R > DEC AXPVMS FORTRAN V7.1-1           Full LP     Install     28-APR-1999 09:05:00R > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999 17:30:00R > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999 17:02:17R > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Remove      26-MAR-1999 16:57:26R > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999 16:47:11R > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Remove      26-MAR-1999 16:43:36R > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999 16:31:24R > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     10-FEB-1999 14:12:26R > DEC AXPVMS AMDS V7.1                Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999 17:30:08R > DEC AXPVMS UCXECO_41_9 V9.0         Patch       Install     09-FEB-1999 15:14:13R > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1     Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999 12:55:28R > DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-4           Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999 12:33:42R > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1             Platform    Install     09-FEB-1999 12:33:42R > DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.1-12              Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999 12:33:42R > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1                 Oper System Install     09-FEB-1999 12:33:42R > ----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- -------------------- >  > Thanks in advance, > Keithn >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 00:12:06 -0500a% From: "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com>n+ Subject: Re: Memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1 ?h< Message-ID: <AbZ%a.110107$6a3.3740434@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>  J When you look at that sho mem/pool/full.  Check to see if your NPAGEDYN isF large enough at boot time.  I.E. is the initial size the current size?  
 Mike Naime  I Michael Austin <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com> wrote in messagew: news:9SV%a.366$vi2.260756523@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...D > make sure you are up to date on all RMS, TCPIP and Oracle patches.C > Oracle had a problem in one version where it would leave orphanednD > logical name tables.  I found a script on Metalink (don't rememberF > where I put it at the moment that could be edited to show and delete; > any of these name tables - which takes up memory.   do a:" > $show mem/pool/full  >g	 > Thanks,  > Michael Austin >- > Keith Brown wrote: > > Hi all,3 > >-J > > I seem to have a memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1.  The main issue is that freeI > > memory is shrinking and Total committed paging file usage is growing.e ThesegJ > > trend are continuing after about 3 weeks of uptime. I have been unable to findtL > > a process which seems to be responsible for this. It really only takes a coupleH > > of days to reach a typical user load on this system after reboot but memoryL > > resources continue to dwindle. Eventually processes start to die because theyJ > > have exceeded process quotas(I've been unable to determine which one). I haveF > > bumped up pgflquota and enqueue limit (These were specified in the startupeF > > command file rather than using the UAF setting). I have listed the output fromaL > > SHOW MEM and PRODUCT SHOW HISTORY so you can see my patch history below. TheretI > > is ECO for 7.3-1 that say is fixes increased pagefile usage from PIPE 	 and SPAWNfI > > command but this really doesn't apply to me (I don't think). I didn'tu have anyB > > issues like this when I was running 7.1-2 Any recommendations? > >  > > XLIMS>$ sho memyD > >               System Memory Resources on 17-AUG-2003 14:02:18.73 > >eD > > Physical Memory Usage (pages):     Total        Free      In Use ModifiedD > >   Main Memory (1024.00MB)         131072        5750      113847 11475o > > F > > Extended File Cache  (Time of last reset: 29-JUL-2003 09:50:15.13)A > >   Allocated (MBytes)           13.43    Maximum size (MBytes)  512.00A > >   Free (MBytes)                 0.00    Minimum size (MBytes)s 3.12@ > >   In use (MBytes)              13.43    Percentage Read I/Os 15%n: > >   Read hit rate                   93%   Write hit rate 0%; > >   Read I/O count             5125637    Write I/O counte 27265066; > >   Read hit count             4802801    Write hit counth 0 B > >   Reads bypassing cache            0    Writes bypassing cache 23892313? > >   Files cached open              565    Files cached closed  177wH > >   Vols in Full XFC mode            0    Vols in VIOC Compatible mode 10I > >   Vols in No Caching mode          0    Vols in Perm. No Caching mode  0e > > D > > Granularity Hint Regions (pages):  Total        Free      In Use ReleasedD > >   Execlet code region               1024           0         910 114 D > >   Execlet data region                416           0         416 0 D > >   S0/S1 Executive data region        853           0         853 0iD > >   Resident image code region        1024           0         866 158h > >pD > > Slot Usage (slots):                Total        Free    Resident SwappedwD > >   Process Entry Slots                300         181         108 11D > >   Balance Set Slots                  298         192         106 0a > >iD > > Dynamic Memory Usage:              Total        Free      In Use LargestkD > >   Nonpaged Dynamic Memory (MB)      6.60        0.91        5.69 0.15D > >   Paged Dynamic Memory    (MB)      3.79        1.81        1.98 1.78D > >   Lock Manager Dyn Memory (KB)    832.00       75.25      756.75 > >BD > > Buffer Object Usage (pages):                  In Use        PeakD > >   32-bit System Space Windows (S0/S1)              6           6D > >   64-bit System Space Windows (S2)                 0           0D > >   Physical pages locked by buffer objects          6           6 > >fD > > Memory Reservations (pages):       Group    Reserved      In Use TypeJ > >   ORA_LIMS_SGA                    SYSGBL          26          26  Page TableeD > >   ORA_LIMS_SGA                    SYSGBL       26112       20028	 Allocated-D > >   Total (204.20 MBytes reserved)               26138       20054 > >OD > > Swap File Usage (8KB pages):                   Index        Free Size- > >   DISK$ALPHASYS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]SWAPFILE.SYS D > >                                                    1       30544 31248  > >yD > > Paging File Usage (8KB pages):                 Index        Free Size' > >   DISK$LOGS:[SYSEXE]PAGEFILE2.SYS;1pD > >                                                  253       56110 124992- > >   DISK$ALPHASYS:[SYS0.SYSEXE]PAGEFILE.SYS D > >                                                  254       56096 124992 > >t% > >   Total size of all paging files:t 249984( > >   Total committed paging file usage: 412315 > >nI > > Of the physical pages in use, 5405 pages are permanently allocated to  OpenVMS. > > XLIMS>$f > >n > >s > >p > >o" > > XLIMS>$ product show history * >tL > ----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- -------------- ------H > > PRODUCT                             KIT TYPE    OPERATION   DATE AND TIME >gL > ----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- -------------- ------K > > DEC AXPVMS TCPIP_ECO V5.3-182       Patch       Install     21-MAR-2003e 10:56:33K > > DEC VMS AMDS V7.3-1A                Full LP     Install     21-MAR-20033 09:03:45K > > DEC AXPVMS VMS731_F11X V1.0         Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003i 12:57:46K > > DEC AXPVMS VMS731_FIBRE_SCSI V1.0   Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003x 12:57:46K > > DEC AXPVMS VMS731_RMS V2.0          Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003  12:57:46K > > DEC AXPVMS VMS731_SYS V3.0          Patch       Install     18-MAR-2003  12:57:46K > > CPQ AXPVMS CDSA V1.0-2              Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003e 12:48:26K > > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.3-1   Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003  12:48:26K > > DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-6           Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003  12:48:26K > > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.3-1           Platform    Install     18-MAR-2003  12:48:26K > > DEC AXPVMS TCPIP V5.3-18            Full LP     Install     18-MAR-2003  12:48:26K > > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.3-1               Oper System Install     18-MAR-2003  12:48:26K > > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1-2   Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003g 12:48:26K > > DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-4           Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003a 12:48:26K > > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1-2           Platform    Remove      18-MAR-20030 12:48:26K > > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1-2               Oper System Remove      18-MAR-2003  12:48:26K > > DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.1-12              Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003  12:29:54K > > DEC AXPVMS UCXECO_41_9 V9.0         Patch       Remove      18-MAR-2003  12:29:54K > > DEC AXPVMS AMDS V7.1                Full LP     Remove      18-MAR-2003d 12:26:04K > > DEC AXPVMS SWCC V2.1-133            Full LP     Install     14-JUN-2000c 14:41:28K > > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1-2   Full LP     Install     19-MAY-1999U 13:00:14K > > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1-2           Platform    Install     19-MAY-1999  13:00:14K > > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1-2               Oper System Install     19-MAY-1999  13:00:14K > > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1     Full LP     Remove      19-MAY-1999  13:00:14K > > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1             Platform    Remove      19-MAY-1999  13:00:14K > > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1                 Oper System Remove      19-MAY-1999  13:00:14K > > DEC AXPVMS FORRTL V7.1-1            Full LP     Install     28-APR-1999  09:05:00K > > DEC AXPVMS FORTRAN V7.1-1           Full LP     Install     28-APR-1999e 09:05:00K > > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999b 17:30:00K > > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999a 17:02:17K > > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Remove      26-MAR-1999s 16:57:26K > > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999L 16:47:11K > > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Remove      26-MAR-1999  16:43:36K > > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     26-MAR-1999G 16:31:24K > > DEC AXPVMS POSIX V3.0               Full LP     Install     10-FEB-19995 14:12:26K > > DEC AXPVMS AMDS V7.1                Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999  17:30:08K > > DEC AXPVMS UCXECO_41_9 V9.0         Patch       Install     09-FEB-1999  15:14:13K > > DEC AXPVMS DECNET_PHASE_IV V7.1     Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999  12:55:28K > > DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-4           Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999e 12:33:42K > > DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.1             Platform    Install     09-FEB-1999- 12:33:42K > > DEC AXPVMS UCX V4.1-12              Full LP     Install     09-FEB-1999  12:33:42K > > DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.1                 Oper System Install     09-FEB-1999- 12:33:42 >-L > ----------------------------------- ----------- ----------- -------------- ------ > >t > > Thanks in advance,	 > > KeithM > >S >.   ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2003 20:52:04 -0500S0 From: Keith Brown <kbrown2720@NOSPAMcomcast.net>O Subject: Re: running simh VAX simulator with some other microcode than default? 0 Message-ID: <uqWcnTgs54Gqqd2iXTWJhg@comcast.com>   Stanley F. Quayle wrote:  0 > On 14 Aug 2003 at 14:14, Andreas Davour wrote:H >> I've been toying with VMS on the simh VAX simulator and was wanderingI >> if the ka655.bin is the microcode for the processor? Then, wouldn't itDI >> be possible to run the simulator as a more competent VAX if you have aX >> fast host CPU?  > A > The file is the boot ROM, not microcode. Changing the code willVE > change the type of VAX reported, but won't change how SIMH emulatesX > the VAX instruction set. > C > CHARON-VAX can emulate several different VAXen by this mechanism.  > > > [Shameless Plug(tm)   I happen to be a CHARON-VAX reseller.] > --Stan Quayle. > Quayle Consulting Inc. >  > ----------E > Stanley F. Quayle, P.E. N8SQ  +1 614-868-1363  Fax: +1 614 868-1671M3 > 8572 North Spring Ct. NW, Pickerington, OH  43147 ? > Preferred address:  stan@stanq.com       http://www.stanq.com-   Stanley,  Q Do you know by chance, has anyone tried to run a Fisher Controls OWP DCS console  . on top of VAX ELAN on the CHARON-VAX emulator?   -- S Keith BrownV   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Aug 2003 08:15:10 -0700  From: omribi@zahav.net.il (Omri)* Subject: Re: Website Based on ASP and VMS.= Message-ID: <9fe63810.0308170715.6850b2f2@posting.google.com>    Thanks for the answers._< The problem is, my exist VMS Application dont use Oracle DB.F It use DBF files.The application is very old.(i cant do anything about this :-(> What i'm looking for is program that can enter the data to the) application like the user enter the data._ for example if the use run e( menu.exe, choose 10 and write something.D The application will enter to menu.exe, choose 10 and write the data that i send from website. 8 Someone know how Ericom Powerterm HostPublisher Working?    
 Thanks Ahead,  Omri.   h dooleys@snowy.net.au (dooley) wrote in message news:<1ca82fc6.0308162047.2f89154c@posting.google.com>...f > omribi@zahav.net.il (Omri) wrote in message news:<9fe63810.0308161159.365d3ef@posting.google.com>... > > Hi, ) > > I have VMS 6.2 with some application.lP > > I want to create intranet based on Windows2000/IIS5 Server and ASP/VBSCRIPT.M > > I Need this intranet to read/update information from the VMS Application.t4 > > The VMS Application using DBF files as Database.M > > I Think that Ericom have the soultion for that (PowerTerm Host Publisher) ! > > Someone know another options?  > > < > On your IIS server you need to install an odbc driver and ; > define an odbc datasource that points to the vms machine. 9 > The odbc driver depends on the database on the vms box,E( > ie. oracle driver for oracle database.9 > As long as the vms end is configured to accept incomingS > connections it should work.l2 > Oracle config is in sqlnet.ora and tnsnames.ora,2 > and all connections need a vms username/password > with appropriate db rights. : > If you are not using oracle then it will not be as easy. > Phil   ------------------------------    Date: 17 Aug 2003 18:06:19 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski)* Subject: Re: Website Based on ASP and VMS.= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0308171706.40622763@posting.google.com>-  d omribi@zahav.net.il (Omri) wrote in message news:<9fe63810.0308161159.365d3ef@posting.google.com>... > Hi, ' > I have VMS 6.2 with some application.tN > I want to create intranet based on Windows2000/IIS5 Server and ASP/VBSCRIPT.K > I Need this intranet to read/update information from the VMS Application.o2 > The VMS Application using DBF files as Database.K > I Think that Ericom have the soultion for that (PowerTerm Host Publisher)o > Someone know another options?f > 	 > Thanks,p > Omri.e  4 I don't why you want to run your web apps on windoze5 and join the patch of the day club instead of on vms,s3 but if you want all those extra headaches, synergexa8 has an odbc product that would do just what you want ...  " http://www.synergex.com/Solutions/   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 01:33:16 GMT > From: Michael Austin <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com>* Subject: Re: Website Based on ASP and VMS.@ Message-ID: <w1W%a.368$Bo2.261144710@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>   Mike Naime wrote:u    > Possibly a VMS based web page? > M > Why transfer it to another platform?  Or is that what you are more familiarc > and comfortable with?e > L > If your App is VMS based, it will be easier to pull data and present it on > the VMS side.uH > I was really surprised how simple it was to publish a stats page using > Apache Webserver on VMS.= > There are other web server engines that you can use on VMS.o >  > Mike- > Omri <omribi@zahav.net.il> wrote in message38 > news:9fe63810.0308161159.365d3ef@posting.google.com... >  >>Hi, ' >>I have VMS 6.2 with some application.m@ >>I want to create intranet based on Windows2000/IIS5 Server and >  > ASP/VBSCRIPT.e > K >>I Need this intranet to read/update information from the VMS Application.n2 >>The VMS Application using DBF files as Database.K >>I Think that Ericom have the soultion for that (PowerTerm Host Publisher)2 >>Someone know another options?0 >>	 >>Thanks,  >>Omri.  >  >  >   B The one thing you will need to know before you do anything is the I complete file types for the ".DBF" files($ dir/full <just-one-file>.dbf)  : and a brief description of how data is entered and viewed.  H I have done quite a bit using DCL, Perl and PHP with Apache on OpenVMS. E   And yes, it can be extremely easy to write reports or even updates i1 from/to any database including RMS-indexed files.   H Perl and PHP make it easier to handle DCL special characters like quote 7 and double-quote and other special characters like "'&@   C If these are just RMS-Indexed or Flat files, CONNX has an RMS ODBC  9 driver. see: http://www.connx.com/products/CONNX-rms.htmle   Michael Austin, / The author of the afore-mentioned "STATS" page.    ------------------------------    Date: 17 Aug 2003 18:55:50 -0700# From: dooleys@snowy.net.au (dooley)i* Subject: Re: Website Based on ASP and VMS.< Message-ID: <1ca82fc6.0308171755.ceb3c59@posting.google.com>  e omribi@zahav.net.il (Omri) wrote in message news:<9fe63810.0308170715.6850b2f2@posting.google.com>...  > Thanks for the answers. > > The problem is, my exist VMS Application dont use Oracle DB.H > It use DBF files.The application is very old.(i cant do anything about
 > this :-(* Do you know the format of these dbf files? Is there a "data dictionary"?l6 Is it really a database or a collection of flat files?4 There are various odbc drivers that can access files< at the rms level, but they need some sort of data dictionary? so the data appears to be relational from a client perspective.  seel http://www.connx.com http://www.generix.ltd.ukd http://www.easysoft.com  http://www.sector7.com http://www.attunity.come@ > What i'm looking for is program that can enter the data to the+ > application like the user enter the data..% Like a java implementation of telnet?r see http://javassh.org/  > for example if the use run k* > menu.exe, choose 10 and write something.F > The application will enter to menu.exe, choose 10 and write the data > that i send from website.s: > Someone know how Ericom Powerterm HostPublisher Working?B As far as I know this is a "screen scraper" but I've never used it5 The reflection people also have one called verastreamG http://www.wrq.com Phil   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.455 ************************