1 INFO-VAX	Wed, 20 Aug 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 460       Contents:) ??== Unicode client as Open VMS terminal. + Re: Advanced Server 7.3A & Active Directory  Re: AntiVirus for OpenVMS  RE: AntiVirus for OpenVMS  Re: AntiVirus for OpenVMS  Re: AntiVirus for OpenVMS  Re: Calculating RESHASHTBL Re: DE500 wanted Re: DE500 wanted  Re: decw$mwm change process name  Re: decw$mwm change process name  Re: decw$mwm change process name  Re: decw$mwm change process name  Re: decw$mwm change process name4 Re: DECW$SM fills up the disk---is this a known bug?4 Re: DECW$SM fills up the disk---is this a known bug? Re: Fork on OPEN VMS Re: FS: VAXstation 4000/90: Re: How to determine which client is connected to a server  HP's $200MM advertising campaign( Re: Init disk for maximal container file( Re: Init disk for maximal container file Re: Last week at HP World " Re: Memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1 ?+ Re: Multicast under UCX 4.1 and OpenVMS 7.1 # Re: running a news SERVER under VMS # Re: running a news SERVER under VMS # Re: running a news SERVER under VMS D Re: Senior level OpenVMS systems administration consultant available SFTP Re: SFTP Re: Strange programming problem  Re: Strange programming problem  Re: Strange programming problem  Re: Strange programming problem  Re: Strange programming problem  RE: Strange programming problem ! Re: Website Based on ASP and VMS. 1 Re: Will OpenVMS I64 run on a Dell PowerEdge 3250  Re: xml web services OpenVMS  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:03:01 +0200 ) From: Hans Aus <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> 2 Subject: ??== Unicode client as Open VMS terminal.B Message-ID: <aus-F51DAF.18030120082003@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>  B Is it possible to tell Open VMS that the client terminal is using  Unicode character code?     @ I'm trying to use the Terminal in Mac OS X with German Umlautes.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:29:28 -0400 $ From: "PEN" <paul.nuneznosp@mhp.com>4 Subject: Re: Advanced Server 7.3A & Active Directory, Message-ID: <bhrcve$juh$1@hplms2.hpl.hp.com>   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:37:06 +0100 * From: Nic Clews <sendspamhere@[127.0.0.1]>" Subject: Re: AntiVirus for OpenVMS' Message-ID: <bhv8bi$57s$1@lore.csc.com>    issinoho wrote:  > G > A client is being forced by its security chappies to (a) implement an F > AV solution on their VMS boxes, or (b) come up with some irrefutable# > reasons why this is not required.   ! Ask your customer support centre.   E We did (a bit back when we were asked exactly the same thing) and got G two standard documents  talking about OpenVMS and being immune to worms  and viruses.   One is titled:  8 What you should know about HP OpenVMS and Malicious Code   and the other:   Viruses and HP OpenVMS  3 Each document about worms and viruses respectively.   H Ironically, it is the people switching off DECnet and LAT who are makingH the problem worse, the inherent reliability of these protocols are being3 compromised by a dirty network where anything goes.  --  ? Regards, Nic Clews a.k.a. Mr. CP Charges, CSC Computer Sciences  nclews at csc dot com    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:37:59 -0400 ' From: "Main, Kerry" <kerry.main@hp.com> " Subject: RE: AntiVirus for OpenVMSR Message-ID: <FD827B33AB0D9C4E92EACEEFEE2BA2FB0C7AE4@tayexc19.americas.cpqcorp.net>  H > >A client is being forced by its security chappies to (a) implement anD AV solution on their VMS boxes, or (b) come up with some irrefutable! reasons why this is not required.   E Not really "proof", but rather a pretty good statement of support for C OpenVMS wrt to virus issues from an established Anti-virus company:    +++ 2 http://www.sophos.com/support/faqs/savopenvms.html  : " 1.1. Can my OpenVMS system become infected with a virus?  B There are currently no known viruses which infect OpenVMS systems.C However, it is often useful for an OpenVMS system to scan files for - viruses which infect other operating systems.   6 This may be the case when an OpenVMS system is used=20E - As a file server for PCs and Macs (e.g. Pathworks/Advanced Server). & - To provide an ALL-IN-1 file cabinet.4 - For processing email with attachments (e.g. PMDF).  E In addition, Sophos Anti-Virus for OpenVMS installed as an InterCheck 5 Server can provide on-access logging for client PCs."    +++    Regards   
 Kerry Main Senior Consultant  Hewlett-Packard (Canada) Co.! Consulting & Integration Services  Voice: 613-592-4660  Fax   : 613-591-4477 Email: kerryDOTmain@hpDOTcom-     (remove the DOT's and replace with "."'s)  OpenVMS DCL - the original .COM  =20    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:23:52 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG" Subject: Re: AntiVirus for OpenVMS0 Message-ID: <00A24A7C.E35BD1B4@SendSpamHere.ORG>  ` In article <BB680F4F.ABD5%JCam90502@jcameron.com>, Jeff Cameron <JCam90502@jcameron.com> writes: >On 8/19/03 7:39 AM, in article < >d0141774.0308190639.1d501415@posting.google.com, "issinoho" ><issinoho@slayme.com> wrote:  > H >> A client is being forced by its security chappies to (a) implement anG >> AV solution on their VMS boxes, or (b) come up with some irrefutable $ >> reasons why this is not required. >>  F >> I know Sophos do some sort of AV solution, but I'm note sure of (a)7 >> its scope of functionality, (b) how expensive it is.  >>  I >> Can anyone point me as to the best advice I should be giving my client F >> - my initial thought are that the negligible risk makes the cost of >> any work wholly unjustified.  >>   >> Thoughts welcomed.  >  > , >    HP OpenVMS PointSecure customer letter5 >    http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/ps_letter.html   H ...and still pushing their "Security Snapshot" which sends security infoI in plain test over a TELNET connection (which logs in in plain text too).   ; Here's what Hoff said on Eisner in the security conference:   % Subj:   Notefile SECURITY Note 399.19 B                <<< EISNER::DRA1:[NOTES$LIBRARY]SECURITY.NOTE;1 >>>/                                  -< SECURITY >- P ================================================================================P Note 399.19        I'm an auditor - give me all your passwords          19 of 19P EISNER::HOFFMAN "Hoff; OpenVMS Engineering"          19 lines  19-AUG-2003 17:44P --------------------------------------------------------------------------------  E   Allowing access to backup archives is just as hazardous as allowing B   access to the live system SYSUAF is just as hazardous as sendingC   copies of SYSUAF off-site is just as hazardous as connecting into C   the password authentication mechanisms is just as hazardous as an    untrusted privileged user.     --N VAXman- A bored certified VMS kernel mode hacker!     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM  5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:15:07 -0400 < From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>" Subject: Re: AntiVirus for OpenVMS9 Message-ID: <bi039t$3rjgu$1@ID-141708.news.uni-berlin.de>   , "Alan Winston - SSRL Admin Cmptg Mgr" wrote: >... Talking about Sophos = > I won't quote what they quoted me two years ago, but it was 	 more than 8 > my poor little gov/university lab could afford.  (They	 wanted to > > charge by user for every user that ever touched the system.) >...  = I do not know if it is still the case, but at one time Sophos > would give you a VMS license if you bought X PC licenses, X PC1 licenses were a lot cheaper than one VMS license.    --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 07:26:23 GMT % From: "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com> # Subject: Re: Calculating RESHASHTBL 6 Message-ID: <zoF0b.228$mb.38898@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>  9 Alan E. Feldman <spamsink2001@yahoo.com> wrote in message 7 news:b096a4ee.0308191158.35eea138@posting.google.com...  > Hello, > D > I am running some VAX systems: some with VMS v6.1, some with v6.2., > They are networked but none are clustered. >  > The manual says  > C > "... As a general guideline, one resource hash table entry should E > exist for every four locks in the sytem. Thus, RESHASHTBL should be H > one-quarter the value of LOCKIDTBL, rounded up to the closest power of > 2."  > G > However, AUTOGEN consistently produces values for RESHASHTBL that are  > much lower than this.  > G > I inherited MODPARAMS.DAT files with MIN_RESHASHTBL=1024, but I don't B > know why it was set there other than perhaps the previous peopleE > running these systems didn't like values that fluctuated and wanted " > the same values on every system. > F > AUTOGEN usually recommends a value of 256 or 512, depending on whichD > system is being examined. In at least two cases LOCKIDTBL is above> > 4000, but RESHASHTBL is still 512, less than the one-quarterA > recommendation of the system utilities manual system parameters  > appendix quoted above. > F > Now I don't have a particular performance problem to solve, but someF > of our systems have free memory values very close to twice FREEGOAL,D > and one system sometimes has a few processes swapped out. OTOH, atE > only 4 bytes per entry, I suppose leaving it at 1024 won't use much G > memory. I'm curious what is best though in general even if it doesn't ' > matter much for this particular case.  > < > Should I just trust AUTOGEN or go by the one-quarter rule? >   J More recent recomendations are 3/4 of LOCKIDTBL values when using MON LOCK for a LOCKIDTBL value.  J Since you did not say what your APP was, or your hardware config, I cannot really comment specifically.6 We are using Oracle on DS/ES class Alphas running 7.3x We use 100,000 and 75,000.  6 I'll have to dig out the explanation from old E-mails.  7 > How dangerous is it if this paremeter is set too low?  > F > I also noticed that changing MIN_RESHASHTBL doesn't cause AUTOGEN to > change any other params. > + > Recommendations and explanations welcome.  > 	 > Thanks.  >  > Alan E. Feldman    ------------------------------    Date: 19 Aug 2003 23:04:31 -0700 From: gwiedijk@hr.nl (gerrie)  Subject: Re: DE500 wanted = Message-ID: <7498cff4.0308192204.2496612b@posting.google.com>   
 Hi Andrew,  > I really don't know the difference between the different typesF (XA/BA). I have an Alpha station 255 which according to the golden eggD needs an XA. But the other types were not available at the time. Are( you willing to sell and ship to Holland?  q "Andrew Dadmun" <adadmun@NOSPAMe-builder.net> wrote in message news:<%At0b.444$qJ6.320601@monger.newsread.com>... 3 > "Keith A. Lewis" <lewis@mazda.mitre.org> wrote...  > > % > > gwiedijk@hr.nl (gerrie) writes... E > > >Is there someone out there who has an unused DE500 NIC for sale? ? > > >According to the golden egg it should be an XA type for an  > > >Alphastation 255. Thanks  > > G > > It's probably an old golden egg.  The DE500-XA shipped on the older 
 >  alphas,N > > giving way later to -AA and (I think) -BA.  The only problem with them wasI > > if you have 2 in one alpha they have to match (either both XA or both  > > newer).  > > ; > > Also, I don't think the -XA supported auto-negotiation.  > > / > > --Keith Lewis              klewis$mitre.org B > > The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer. > Keith  > N > I came across this thread on Google.  I have an old DE500 card that came outL > of a DEC alpha system I trashed last week.  I kept the NIC.  It says DE500H > on it and has the 21143-PC chip on it.  What is the difference between > the -AA, -BA, and -XA types? > M > I was keeping this NIC to see if it would work in a newer non-alpha system. M > I noticed a second notch in the connector and did a google search on it.  I M > was just about to toss it out, but if someone out there needs it, I'll hang N > on to it.  I know it works.  The alpha system was online until recently, but& > we needed it no more so I gutted it. > 
 > Regards, > Andrew Dadmun G > Senior Network Engineer - e-Builder, Inc. - http://www.e-builder.net/  > 8 > Post in a newsgroup, read the response in a newsgroup.4 > *~*~*    Questions not answered via email    *~*~*   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:13:35 GMT 3 From: "Andrew Dadmun" <adadmun@NOSPAMe-builder.net>  Subject: Re: DE500 wanted 7 Message-ID: <zeM0b.643$if4.334866@newshog.newsread.com>   " "gerrie" <gwiedijk@hr.nl> wrote... > Hi Andrew, > @ > I really don't know the difference between the different typesH > (XA/BA). I have an Alpha station 255 which according to the golden eggF > needs an XA. But the other types were not available at the time. Are* > you willing to sell and ship to Holland? > J I'll reply to you via email, but yes, you can have it if you pay shipping.  ' I was going to throw it out anyway.  :)    Regards, Andy   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:43:05 +0000 (UTC) , From: lewis@mazda.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis)) Subject: Re: decw$mwm change process name . Message-ID: <bi01dp$3s4$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> writes in article <3F42CFED.A85CD559@fsi.net> dated Tue, 19 Aug 2003 20:33:33 -0500: >meidan zemer wrote:D >> I want to set the process name to somthing else. I can'nt do that: >> because the decw$mwm image is chaning the process name. > B >....and why do you want to set the process name to somthing else? > C >Hint: Give us a clue what you're up to and why. Someone may have a  >useful suggestion.   K He's probably trying to do the same thing I had to.  Startup and shutdown a H Decwindows app on several PCs at once.  I found that DECW$MWM was by farK more robust than the window manager(s) that come with Exceed, at least when  dealing with Decwindows apps.   B A known process name makes monitoring and shutdown a lot easier.    F My solution was to have the detached process run a script which did a   )    $ spawn/nowait run sys$system:decw$mwm   F and then went into a wait loop.  DECW$MWM only changed the name of itsI subprocess, so I could shut it down by stopping the parent, whose process  name didn't change.   @ It was an imperfect solution because my monitoring subsystem was, scrutinizing stats about the parent process.  + --Keith Lewis              klewis$mitre.org > The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------   Date: 20 AUG 2003 15:16:08 GMT+ From: Dave Greenwood <greenwoodde@ornl.gov> ) Subject: Re: decw$mwm change process name 2 Message-ID: <20AUG03.15160874@feda01.fed.ornl.gov>  A In a previous article, meidanze@hotmail.com (meidan zemer) wrote: d > lewis@mazda.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis) wrote in message news:<bhqosv$d1r$1@newslocal.mitre.org>... > > meidanze@hotmail.com (meidan zemer) writes in article <3bbfbaa2.0308170023.9a55d2b@posting.google.com> dated 17 Aug 2003 01:23:14 -0700:8 > > >For each PC i run the decw$mwm as a detach process.K > > >My problem is when i run the decw$mwm it's chaning the process name to H > > >decw$mwm_xxxx. I need to find a way to prevent the program decw$mwmE > > >from changing the process name.(like a switch or a logical name)  > > >Does anybody knows a way? > > M > > Two processes on the same VMS machine can only have the same name if they N > > have different UIC "group" fields.  So, if i is your iteration variable... > > ' > > $ uic = f$fao("[!OW,200]", 200 + i) ( > > $ run /uic='uic' sys$system:decw$mwm > > M > > One question -- since you run MWM as a detached process, how does it know  > > which display to use?  >   T > when i run the process i use the qualifiers "/out=" and assign the display device.  M How about changing the process name back after decw$mwm does its name change? M You'd need to get the pid of the created process, perhaps like so (untested):   B   $ pipe run/detach /input=disk:[dir]x.com sys$system:loginout | -     (read sys$pipe info ; - $      pid = f$element(6," ",info) ; -      define/job pid &pid)    $ pid = f$trnlnm("pid")   E Loop until current process name is of the form decw$mwm_xxxx and then  use   $   $ set process/id='pid' "your name"   Dave --------------9 Dave Greenwood                Email: Greenwoodde@ORNL.GOV H Oak Ridge National Lab        %STD-W-DISCLAIMER, I only speak for myself   ------------------------------   Date: 20 AUG 2003 16:09:45 GMT+ From: Dave Greenwood <greenwoodde@ornl.gov> ) Subject: Re: decw$mwm change process name 2 Message-ID: <20AUG03.16094564@feda01.fed.ornl.gov>  C In a previous article, lewis@e.thundermaker.net (Spud Demon) wrote:  > Dave Greenwood <greenwoodde@ornl.gov> writes in article <20AUG03.15160874@feda01.fed.ornl.gov> dated 20 AUG 2003 15:16:08 GMT:' > >  $ set process/id='pid' "your name"  >   G > %SET-F-OWNPROC, the NAME qualifier is only valid for your own process  >   & > --Spud Demon		thundermaker$yahoo.com   Oh - like, duh!  --------------9 Dave Greenwood                Email: Greenwoodde@ORNL.GOV H Oak Ridge National Lab        %STD-W-DISCLAIMER, I only speak for myself   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:54:09 GMT + From: lewis@e.thundermaker.net (Spud Demon) ) Subject: Re: decw$mwm change process name 0 Message-ID: <BQM0b.25$ew2.30003@news.uswest.net>  ~ Dave Greenwood <greenwoodde@ornl.gov> writes in article <20AUG03.15160874@feda01.fed.ornl.gov> dated 20 AUG 2003 15:16:08 GMT:% >  $ set process/id='pid' "your name"   E %SET-F-OWNPROC, the NAME qualifier is only valid for your own process   $ --Spud Demon		thundermaker$yahoo.com   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 16:54:27 +0100 - From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> ) Subject: Re: decw$mwm change process name / Message-ID: <vk76e4jf9b6s1d@corp.supernews.com>    Dave Greenwood wrote:    > [... snip ...]O > How about changing the process name back after decw$mwm does its name change? O > You'd need to get the pid of the created process, perhaps like so (untested):  > D >   $ pipe run/detach /input=disk:[dir]x.com sys$system:loginout | - >     (read sys$pipe info ; - & >      pid = f$element(6," ",info) ; - >      define/job pid &pid)  >   $ pid = f$trnlnm("pid")  > G > Loop until current process name is of the form decw$mwm_xxxx and then  > use  > & >   $ set process/id='pid' "your name"  @ Nice idea.  Unfortunately "set process/NAME=" only works for the process invoking the command.   	 Roy Omond  Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 08:46:10 +0200 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> = Subject: Re: DECW$SM fills up the disk---is this a known bug? ; Message-ID: <01KZOFUXIGBMAOOLBD@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   6 > This problem should be addressed in the forthcoming # > OpenVMS V7.3-2/DECwindows V1.3-1.   ' Great, still another reason to upgrade!   H > The problem occurs when the window the screen saver uses is deleted by> > the session manager but the screen saver is not terminated.   + Sorry, can you explain this in more detail?   F > The most likely cause of this is that there are some race conditionsH > between unlocking the screen and starting a new screen saver. It could= > also be caused by a rogue application deleting the window.     Ditto.  M > It should be possible to reduce the likelihood of the problem by adjusting  C > the screen saver settings. Setting to use multiple screen savers     I've always used almost all.  ! > and the time per saver to zero     I've usually used 1 minute.   E > should prevent new saver images from being started. If that doesn't ? > work, setting it to a large value should reduce the window of  > opportunity.     Thanks; I'll give it a try.   H > Unfortunately, when it does happen there is no visible problem and the > log file fills very quickly.     Right.   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Aug 2003 03:48:47 -0700. From: martinkirby12@yahoo.co.uk (Martin Kirby)= Subject: Re: DECW$SM fills up the disk---is this a known bug? < Message-ID: <224291b.0308200248.50a45201@posting.google.com>   Phillip,  F I can try and explain in more detail but I'm not sure how much success I'll have :-).  D When the session manager starts the screen saver it creates a windowD that covers the whole screen and passes the window id of that to theD screen saver process. This is also how the style manager can run theF screen saver in a small example window. You can see this window if youA run DECW$UTILS:XLSWINS when the screen saver is displayed (having A logged in remotely). It has a name something like "Cover Dialog".   E The screen saver does its screen output, bouncing lines, fireflies or F just a black area, to this window. If the window doesn't exist then itC gets repeated X window errors and just keeps trying to write to the F window (the fix is to exit after an error). The X errors are output to
 the log file.   E When the screen saver starts it creates an invisible window and sends F the identity of that to the session manager by sending an event to theE cover window. The session manager records the screen savers window id < and when the session manager unlocks it uses this to send an8 XKillClient request, prior to deleting the cover window.  = One race condition is that the session manager processing is:   0 1.     Start processing event that caused unlock6 2.     Kill registered screen saver clients (multiple         if have multi-screen) 3.     Delete cover windows   A If the screen-saver was just started and its processing sends the A event between (1) and (3) then the session manager never sees the B event because the window was deleted [event processing uses Xt andF that ignores events on windows the widgets of which have been deleted]/ and the screen saver process is not terminated.   E There are other race conditions, some of which are allowed for in the  code and some of which are not.    Hope that is some help,    Martin Kirby DECwindows Engineering   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Aug 2003 02:07:20 -07002 From: joseantonio_garcia@hotmail.com (Jose Sancho) Subject: Re: Fork on OPEN VMS = Message-ID: <f2e72344.0308200107.7cc7d2e0@posting.google.com>    Hi,   > I've tried LIB$RUN_PROGRAM and it does exactly what WE needed.D Perhaps, my initial question was not fully focused on my problem. AsE the UNIX code was already done (by another developer), I was tempting D to use the same code for OPEN VMS. But, maybe, the FORK call was not the best option, even in UNIX!   Thank you all for your help. Jos Sancho  Infineon - Portugal.   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:24:23 +0000 (UTC) 8 From: hawk@slytherin.ds.psu.edu (Dr. Richard E. Hawkins)# Subject: Re: FS: VAXstation 4000/90 . Message-ID: <bi00an$1fio$2@f04n12.cac.psu.edu>  / In article <vk1u7kh3bpikaa@corp.supernews.com>, / Roy Omond  <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com> wrote:  >Bjrn Berg hat geschrieben:  M >> I'm selling my old VAXstation 4000/90. It has the following specification:   = >You'd probably be best posting this on comp.os.vms where I'm ; >sure you'll find someone pretty close to you (I'm assuming % >you're in Germany) with an interest.   @ Or better yet, in a newsgroup where advertising is allowed . . .   hawk --  K Richard E. Hawkins, Asst. Prof. of Economics    /"\   ASCII ribbon campaign G dochawk@psu.edu  Smeal 178  (814) 375-4700      \ /   against HTML mail D These opinions will not be those of              X    and postings. 6 Penn State until it pays my retainer.           / \      ------------------------------    Date: 20 Aug 2003 07:03:14 -07004 From: chris_breemer@nl.compuware.com (Chris Breemer)C Subject: Re: How to determine which client is connected to a server = Message-ID: <d62022e4.0308200603.1ac59c4e@posting.google.com>   8 Thanks guys for your helpful replies, I'm all happy now.4 Good to see the VMS newsgroup is alive and kicking !   Cheers
      Chris  ` Albrecht Schlosser <ajs856@tiscali.de> wrote in message news:<mqmthb.pv3.ln@news.hus-soft.de>... > Chris Breemer wrote: > >  > > Hi all,  > > B > > I am looking for a way to find out which particular IP addressE > > is connected to a particular server process. I can see the server B > > process (with SHOW SYSTEM) and the open connections with theirB > > IP addresses (with TCPIP "netstat -a" command) but the problemF > > is I cannot make the link between these. If netstat would show theB > > process ID I'd be happy, but it does not. Also if there were aF > > VMS equivalent of the UNIX "lsof" command. Any ideas appreciated ! >  > Try  >  > $ TCPIP show dev /port=xxxx  > 5 > where xxxx is the server's (unique ?) port number ?  > ? > This will show you all the peer IP addresses ("Remote Host").    ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:00:40 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> ) Subject: HP's $200MM advertising campaign J Message-ID: <caL0b.246287$rsJ.169635@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  F HP's newest advertising campaign is spending $200MM to get individualsF to purchase HP digital cameras, inkjet printers, and HP branded paper.  F They have spent big bucks getting sports figures/celebrities into some= of their ads... Cal Ripken, Ozzie Davis, Ozzie Osborne, .....   ! They have a big splashy press kit C http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press_kits/2003/consumerstrategy/     C But not even 1% of that campaign's cost has been accorded to VMS to C begin any kind of advertising campaign for it, and no press kit for  VMS.   Shame on you HP.    , http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/media.htmlC Call them and ask them what HP's plans are for OpenVMS advertising. B You'll find that the people who answer the phone don't know how to
 spell OpenVMS    ------------------------------  " Date: Wed, 20 Aug 03 10:29:12 +100 From: rok@nuk.uni-lj.si 1 Subject: Re: Init disk for maximal container file & Message-ID: <3f434d81$1@NUK.Uni-Lj.Si>  + In Article <3f3d2362$1@usenet01.boi.hp.com> . "warren sander" <warren.sander@hp.com> writes:G >you could try a low-level format to see if the missing blocks are 'bad  >blocks'  D  I believe bad blocks are influencing free blocks, not total blocks,D as I was never able to make disk look smaller by explicitely declare bad blocks.    Regards,  D Rok Vidmar                       Internet:  rok.vidmar@nuk.uni-lj.si; National and University Library  Phone:     +386 1 421 5461 ; Turjaska 1, SI-1000 Ljubljana    Fax:       +386 1 421 5464  Slovenia   ------------------------------  " Date: Wed, 20 Aug 03 10:33:31 +100 From: rok@nuk.uni-lj.si 1 Subject: Re: Init disk for maximal container file & Message-ID: <3f434e7f$1@NUK.Uni-Lj.Si>  : In Article <01KZI9EHP6MYAM7Y4A@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>; Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> writes: I >> Shadowing different disk sizes is planned for a future release of VMS,  >  >7.3-2, IIRC, due RSN.  C  This will address only one set of problems. General slution should  be:    $ INITIALIZE/SIZE=n   ? where n <= total blocks. Is there any space in home block left?    Regards,  D Rok Vidmar                       Internet:  rok.vidmar@nuk.uni-lj.si; National and University Library  Phone:     +386 1 421 5461 ; Turjaska 1, SI-1000 Ljubljana    Fax:       +386 1 421 5464  Slovenia   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:43:23 GMT # From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> " Subject: Re: Last week at HP WorldJ Message-ID: <%VK0b.246164$rsJ.103793@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  + "Dirk Munk" <munk@home.nl> wrote in message , news:bhu6a7$e6g$1@news3.tilbu1.nb.home.nl...& > Greetings from the Netherlands Sue ! > D > We all had a big laugh when the new OpenVMS marketing manager (Yes	 group, he E > really exists !) mentioned that his previous occupation was manager  of aB > psychiatric hospital. I don't know which conclusion we must draw
 from this.   Is Bob Blatz out????   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 07:13:52 GMT % From: "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com> + Subject: Re: Memory leak in OpenVMS 7.3-1 ? 6 Message-ID: <QcF0b.227$mb.38551@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>  ? Michael D. Ober <obermd-@-alum-mit-edu-nospam> wrote in message * news:vk40b.10$_U1.13103@news.uswest.net...2 > "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com> wrote in message8 > news:AbZ%a.110107$6a3.3740434@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com...K > > When you look at that sho mem/pool/full.  Check to see if your NPAGEDYN  isJ > > large enough at boot time.  I.E. is the initial size the current size? > >  > > Mike Naime >  > My stats for this region are:  > 1 > Nonpaged Dynamic Memory      (Lists + Variable) D >   Current Size (MB)                11.39   Current Size (Pagelets) 23328 D >   Initial Size (MB)                 8.67   Initial Size (Pagelets) 17760 D >   Maximum Size (MB)                39.37   Maximum Size (Pagelets) 80640 > >   Free Space (MB)                   5.11   Space in Use (MB) 6.27D >   Largest Var Block (KB)          346.06   Smallest Var Block (By) 64.00 F >   Number of Free Blocks            24013   Free Blocks LEQU 64 bytes 6944A >   Free Blocks on Lookasides        10982   Lookaside Space (MB)  1.38 > 9 > Do I need to do anything to improve system performance?  > B Something is causing your NPAGEDYN to increase by 50%.  This takes9 resources.   If it needs 11M. give it to it at boot time. I Notice that this has increased since your last posting.  I would increase $ NPAGEDYN to 10 or 11 million blocks.  I Also, Make sure that you add VCC_FLAGS=1 to turn off XFC caching that may  cause Oracle corruption.I Since I cannot get anyone to tell me if this has been fixed in the latest ' XFC patch we still leave it turned off.   
 Mike Naime   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:39:36 GMT 8 From: "Johan Nilsson" <johan.nilsson@---.esrange.ssc.se>4 Subject: Re: Multicast under UCX 4.1 and OpenVMS 7.1@ Message-ID: <7fbb8621616524f828cf2759e2ab0657@news.teranews.com>  E Just a brief clarification : _reading_ multicast data sent from other I machines using recvfrom or $qio works fine, _writing_ (using sendto) does  not.   // Johan   ------------------------------   Date: 20 Aug 2003 13:33:12 GMT, From: bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon), Subject: Re: running a news SERVER under VMS9 Message-ID: <bhvtan$3o9g8$1@ID-135708.news.uni-berlin.de>   % In article <3f42398f@cpns1.saic.com>, 3 	Mark Berryman <Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com> writes:  > Phillip Helbig wrote: D >>>and the full news feed I take currently consumes 8-10 GB of disk  >>>space.    >>   >>  8 >> How many groups?  How long are the articles retained? > 7 > Roughly 44,000.  Retention seems to be about 3 weeks.   A I hope you don't think that is anywhere near a full feed.  When I B had to shut down my server at the University (over a year ago) our count was already over 346,000.    > E >> What is the minimum network bandwidth one needs (assuming you are  $ >> carrying practically all groups)? > G > At the moment, I am using about 60 KB/sec to receive news.  I do not  N > know how much that fluctuates as I have never had call to measure it before.  C I had a satellite feed for the majority of my incoming news and the C networking people here still complained constantly about the amount ' of bandwidth I was using on a 10M link.    bill   --  J Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:35:09 +0200 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> , Subject: Re: running a news SERVER under VMS; Message-ID: <01KZOU8SFUAOAMIU2C@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   F > >>>and the full news feed I take currently consumes 8-10 GB of disk 
 > >>>space.    > >>  : > >> How many groups?  How long are the articles retained? > > 9 > > Roughly 44,000.  Retention seems to be about 3 weeks.  > C > I hope you don't think that is anywhere near a full feed.  When I D > had to shut down my server at the University (over a year ago) our! > count was already over 346,000.   . How many of these were actually active groups?   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 19:39:17 +0200 $ From: Michael Unger <unger@decus.de>, Subject: Re: running a news SERVER under VMS9 Message-ID: <bi0c4f$3qkuk$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>   + On 20-Aug-2003 15:35, Phillip Helbig wrote:g  G >> >>>and the full news feed I take currently consumes 8-10 GB of disk   >> >>>space.   >> >> ; >> >> How many groups?  How long are the articles retained?M >> >  : >> > Roughly 44,000.  Retention seems to be about 3 weeks. >>  D >> I hope you don't think that is anywhere near a full feed.  When IE >> had to shut down my server at the University (over a year ago) oura" >> count was already over 346,000. > 0 > How many of these were actually active groups?  C The DFN-CIS news server (University of Berlin, Germany), now calledeG "news.individual.net" for international users, has about 20,000 groups; D in most of the hierarchies the articles are retained for 30 days, in  some hierarchies up to 150 days.  C See <URL: http://news.individual.net/hierarchies.html> for details.s  F The system is a Silicon Graphics Origin 2000 with 4 GB of RAM, 4 CPUs,+ 170 GB of disk capacity and an Gb Ethernet..  F See <URL: http://news.individual.net/server.html> for additional data.   Michaeln   --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers.V@ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system.e= And don't annoy me <mailto:postmaster@[127.0.0.1]> please ;-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:35:47 +0100e- From: Roy Omond <Roy.Omond@BlueBubble.UK.Com>IM Subject: Re: Senior level OpenVMS systems administration consultant available-/ Message-ID: <vk6jok15smula7@corp.supernews.com>-   Rick Nickles wrote:    > Greetings! > G >     I am a Senior VMS Administration Consultant with over 15 years oflB > VMS systems administration experience.  I'm willing to travel or< > relocate.  Please contact me at on_the_move4ever@yahoo.com > [... snip ...]   Relocate to India, perhaps ?  	 Roy Omond  Blue Bubble Ltd.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 12:10:31 -0400-+ From: Mike Freeman <k7uij@nospam.panix.com>0
 Subject: SFTP @ Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.56.0308201205050.28178@panix3.panix.com>  
 Greetings.  H The electric utility for which I work obtains a fair amount of data fromH the Internet via ftp using command procedures.  We have UCX installed soE are using its ftp client.  One of the sites from which we get data is$G shifting to use of SFTP (as in the UNIX SFTP).  Is there a client whichb7 will run under VAX/VMS which can handle SFTP transfers?o   Thanks much in advance.)   Mike Freeman < K 7 U I J >   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 11:09:38 -0600 % From: Dan O'Reilly <dano@process.com>e Subject: Re: SFTPtA Message-ID: <5.2.0.9.2.20030820110909.00b2d920@raptor.psccos.com>e  5 Process Software's SSH for OpenVMS can do this today.h  * At 10:10 AM 8/20/2003, Mike Freeman wrote: >Greetings.n >hI >The electric utility for which I work obtains a fair amount of data from I >the Internet via ftp using command procedures.  We have UCX installed so F >are using its ftp client.  One of the sites from which we get data isH >shifting to use of SFTP (as in the UNIX SFTP).  Is there a client which8 >will run under VAX/VMS which can handle SFTP transfers? >i >Thanks much in advance. >  >Mike Freeman < K 7 U I J >-   ------J +-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+J | Dan O'Reilly                  |  "There are 10 types of people in this |J | Principal Engineer            |   world: those who understand binary   |J | Process Software              |   and those who don't."                |J | http://www.process.com        |                                        |J +-------------------------------+----------------------------------------+   ------------------------------   Date: 20 Aug 2003 07:18:48 GMT3 From: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.de (Christoph Gartmann)m( Subject: Re: Strange programming problem0 Message-ID: <bhv7co$rmh$1@n.ruf.uni-freiburg.de>   Hi,n  O finally I found my problem: it was a call to a procedure "p_write_log" that hadsO not been marked as a comment. This procedure did a "writeln( logfile...". So asmM soon as I enabled the logfile, that is I removed the comments from the "open"dK and "close" statement and some "writeln( logfile" statements, all was fine.eE Strange thing is that the compiler didn't complain about writing to a,L non-opened file. The generated code did work under OpenVMS 7.1-2 but stoppedJ working under OpenVMs 7.3-1 . Recompiling the bogous code with Pascal V5.6J and without /NOCHECK/NODEBUG produced code that worked. With V5.8 the codeM didn't work regardless of the command qualifiers. But in both cases compiling  didn't show any error.   Regards,    Christoph Gartmann    -- rE  Max-Planck-Institut fuer      Phone   : +49-761-5108-464   Fax: -452u  ImmunbiologieA  Postfach 1169                 Internet: gartmann@immunbio.mpg.der  D-79011  Freiburg, Germany79                http://www.immunbio.mpg.de/home/menue.htmlC   ------------------------------   Date: 20 Aug 2003 13:37:12 GMT, From: bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)( Subject: Re: Strange programming problem9 Message-ID: <bhvti7$3o9g8$2@ID-135708.news.uni-berlin.de>s  8 In article <1lu4kv0vfch61nnqn44ehtdtp5arqs440m@4ax.com>,1 	Mike Bartman <omni@foolie.omniphile.com> writes:iD > C is famous for stuff like this...uninitialized pointers, danglingD > pointers, array out of bounds, bad pointer arithmetic, etc., etc.,  E It's a poor workman who blames his tools.  Bad programming is not thenF fault of the language.  Remember, COBOL, by design, didn't have range- checking either.   bill   -- iJ Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>   y   ------------------------------    Date: 20 Aug 2003 09:25:28 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen)e( Subject: Re: Strange programming problem3 Message-ID: <PlCvzePncO0P@eisner.encompasserve.org>9  h In article <bhvti7$3o9g8$2@ID-135708.news.uni-berlin.de>, bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:: > In article <1lu4kv0vfch61nnqn44ehtdtp5arqs440m@4ax.com>,3 > 	Mike Bartman <omni@foolie.omniphile.com> writes: E >> C is famous for stuff like this...uninitialized pointers, danglingRE >> pointers, array out of bounds, bad pointer arithmetic, etc., etc.,: > G > It's a poor workman who blames his tools.  Bad programming is not the-H > fault of the language.  Remember, COBOL, by design, didn't have range- > checking either.  B From what I know of Cobol, it is quite amenable to range checking.? The use of null-terminated strings in C prevents such automatics compiler safeguards.   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:07:35 GMT-+ From: Ryan Moore <rmoore@rmoore.dyndns.org>a( Subject: Re: Strange programming problem5 Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.56.0308200801140.3112@jaipur>-  + On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Larry Kilgallen wrote:uD > From what I know of Cobol, it is quite amenable to range checking.A > The use of null-terminated strings in C prevents such automatic0 > compiler safeguards.  H This is not necessarily true.  Depending on how your array is allocated,J the compiler can do range checking.  There's a switch in the CC command toG enable array range checking.  The manual specifies what kinds of thingshJ are checked and what types of operations aren't checked.  This is all done: at run-time, so there would be a slight execution penalty.   -Ryanp   ------------------------------  + Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 16:36:23 +0000 (UTC)r, From: lewis@mazda.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis)( Subject: Re: Strange programming problem. Message-ID: <bi0827$dek$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   Ryan Moore <rmoore@rmoore.dyndns.org> writes in article <Pine.LNX.4.56.0308200801140.3112@jaipur> dated Wed, 20 Aug 2003 15:07:35 GMT:, >On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Larry Kilgallen wrote:E >> From what I know of Cobol, it is quite amenable to range checking.@B >> The use of null-terminated strings in C prevents such automatic >> compiler safeguards.l > I >This is not necessarily true.  Depending on how your array is allocated, K >the compiler can do range checking.  There's a switch in the CC command to.H >enable array range checking.  The manual specifies what kinds of thingsK >are checked and what types of operations aren't checked.  This is all doneh; >at run-time, so there would be a slight execution penalty..  L The fact that C RTL functions must support unknown-length strings means thatF they have to avoid some pre-fetching which might improve performance.   H I work on a large app which contains C and PL/I, among other languages. F Once when passing a string from C to PL/I, I declared it as "char(500)L reference" and then attempted a search(s, byte(0)) to determine the length. K This often resulted in an access violation because the PL/I runtime library F read beyond the actual allocated storage, thinking it had 500 bytes toK search.  The solution was to write a strlen() wrapper in C and call that toiJ determine the length.  That has to be less efficient, because C's strlen()G in general can't know whether it's allowed to fetch s[n+1] until it hase s[n] in a CPU register.s  + --Keith Lewis              klewis$mitre.orgm> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 09:37:24 -0700 # From: "Tom Linden" <tom@kednos.com>l( Subject: RE: Strange programming problem9 Message-ID: <CIEJLCMNHNNDLLOOGNJIKENEHMAA.tom@kednos.com>g  9 In our UNIX version of PL/I you could have declared it asa> char(500) options(c);  but alas we never put that into the VMS* version.  Strings in C were ill-conceived.   >-----Original Message----- 4 >From: Keith A. Lewis [mailto:lewis@mazda.mitre.org]) >Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 9:36 AMe >To: Info-VAX@Mvb.Saic.Com) >Subject: Re: Strange programming probleml >- >l8 >Ryan Moore <rmoore@rmoore.dyndns.org> writes in articleA ><Pine.LNX.4.56.0308200801140.3112@jaipur> dated Wed, 20 Aug 2003s >15:07:35 GMT:- >>On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Larry Kilgallen wrote: F >>> From what I know of Cobol, it is quite amenable to range checking.C >>> The use of null-terminated strings in C prevents such automaticm >>> compiler safeguards. >>J >>This is not necessarily true.  Depending on how your array is allocated,L >>the compiler can do range checking.  There's a switch in the CC command toI >>enable array range checking.  The manual specifies what kinds of things L >>are checked and what types of operations aren't checked.  This is all done< >>at run-time, so there would be a slight execution penalty. >aB >The fact that C RTL functions must support unknown-length strings >means thatwF >they have to avoid some pre-fetching which might improve performance. > H >I work on a large app which contains C and PL/I, among other languages.G >Once when passing a string from C to PL/I, I declared it as "char(500) @ >reference" and then attempted a search(s, byte(0)) to determine >the length.L >This often resulted in an access violation because the PL/I runtime libraryG >read beyond the actual allocated storage, thinking it had 500 bytes tosL >search.  The solution was to write a strlen() wrapper in C and call that toK >determine the length.  That has to be less efficient, because C's strlen()nH >in general can't know whether it's allowed to fetch s[n+1] until it has >s[n] in a CPU register. >p, >--Keith Lewis              klewis$mitre.org? >The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.e >t >---' >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. ; >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).cA >Version: 6.0.511 / Virus Database: 308 - Release Date: 8/18/2003  >e --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).@ Version: 6.0.511 / Virus Database: 308 - Release Date: 8/18/2003   ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:51:55 +0200 $ From: "John Apps" <john.apps@hp.com>* Subject: Re: Website Based on ASP and VMS.* Message-ID: <3f43752e@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  K Ericom Host Publisher is NOT what you need here. It will emulate terminals,/I but not talk to files on the OpenVMS box. If you have VT applications yousI wish to integrate into your Web application, then Host Publisher would be- the correct choice. I If not, and you're trying to access only data on the OpenVMS system, theneC any of the choices mentioned in previous threads will do the trick.4  I One question: does it have to be ASP on Windows IIS? How about Tomcat anddK JSP on OpenVMS instead? JavaServer Pages (JSP) are very similar to ASP, and I Java code in a JSP more than similar to JavaScript on Windows, JavaScripteG being a good alternative to VBScript. Even VBScript and JavaScript have 
 similarities.    Cheers, john- "Omri" <omribi@zahav.net.il> wrote in message 6 news:9fe63810.0308161159.365d3ef@posting.google.com... > Hi, ' > I have VMS 6.2 with some application.-@ > I want to create intranet based on Windows2000/IIS5 Server and
 ASP/VBSCRIPT. K > I Need this intranet to read/update information from the VMS Application.n2 > The VMS Application using DBF files as Database.K > I Think that Ericom have the soultion for that (PowerTerm Host Publisher)8 > Someone know another options?  >3	 > Thanks,0 > Omri.i   ------------------------------  # Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 13:40:32 GMTa# From: "John Smith" <a@nonymous.com> : Subject: Re: Will OpenVMS I64 run on a Dell PowerEdge 3250J Message-ID: <kTK0b.246139$rsJ.181462@news04.bloor.is.net.cable.rogers.com>  3 "John Reagan" <john.reagan@hp.com> wrote in messageu+ news:i0r0b.2704$I03.634@news.cpqcorp.net...s
 > Alan wrote:  > >S3 > > Will OpenVMS I64 run on a Dell PowerEdge 3250 ?  > >c > > Alan > >t > >$ > >a >y( > Send me one and I'll let you know. :-)    C Buy one from Dell on their 30-day no questions asked refund policy.    ------------------------------  % Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 14:41:29 +0200s$ From: "John Apps" <john.apps@hp.com>% Subject: Re: xml web services OpenVMSa* Message-ID: <3f4372bf@usenet01.boi.hp.com>  G Quick note from my holidays, since my name was taken so nicely in vain!s  L 1) the examples, there were more than one, I referred to in my session at hp World were:w  F ++ Dollar Rent A Car are using Web Services to integrate their backendI OpenVMS/ACMS system with a multitude of applications including, Web, Palm.L and FTP. This is done using a product called hp TP Web Connector which makesJ ACMS business transactions appear as Microsoft COM objects. These can thenG be invoked using any and all software which is capable of invoking such ; objects. Microsoft has a very nice case study for this (seeeF http://www.microsoft.com/business/casestudies/b2c/dollarrentacar.asp);: OpenVMS is going to publish one in the near future, I hope  I ++ we have several more of the nature described above, the big differenceiL being that JavaBeans or Enterprise JavaBeans are being used to represent theK ACMS transactions. The product being employed to wrap the ACMS functions is K called hp BridgeWorks. This, in conjunction with BEA WebLogic Server (which D has full support for Web Services) makes it very easy to expose such" business functions as Web Services  L ++ another example I referred to (no customer name was mentioned) was one inI which a variety of screens (VAX, hp 3000, IBM AS400) were integrated with H new applications using Ericom's Host Publisher product which makes theseD screens (or applications driven through them) appear as Web Services  L ++ last but not least, it is possible to expose OpenVMS data and programs asI Web Services using a product called Attunity Connect from Attunity. TherenJ are a number of accounts looking into this, I do not know if any have gone into production at this time  K I don't wish to bore the community with length messages on Web Services andtJ OpenVMS at this juncture. Suffice it to say that there are several ways ofF using Web Services on OpenVMS and I shall be more than glad to provideK details to any and all that request further information. Please drop a note H to me at john.apps@hp.com should you wish to discuss the above and otherJ matters pertaining to OpenVMS and Web Services (or any integration-related topic).-   Cheers, john    C >I'm not using this (yet), as I've had no call to, but I attended a  presentationH >on doing it by Hip's John Apps, who described packaging a VMS TTY-basedI >application as a web service with the vital link done by screen scrapingj using:F >Powerterm.  This enabled car-rental reservations to be done through a partner> >airline's web site.  A "Craig A. Berry" <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler> wrote in message<: news:1e2d93a1de59c586e0e773a911ad7f88@news.teranews.com...1 > In article <3F423528.4050706@ceris.purdue.edu>, / >  Chuck Aaron <caaron@ceris.purdue.edu> wrote:  >T9 > > I posed a question a few days ago but let me clarify:r > > F > > A web service is an application delivered as a service that can beH > > integrated with other web services using internet standards. Simply,B > > it's an URL-addressable resource that programmatically returnsF > > information to clients who want to use it. The major communication@ > > protocol used is SOAP, which in most cases is XML over HTTP. > >wJ > > Now, my question...is anyone using this with OpenVMS? If so, would you. > > please share what and how your using this? >iH > Not an answer to your question, but anyone following this thread might9 > find it helpful to know where to get the tools for VMS:  > ? > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/ips/soap/soap.htmln >h > I have not tried this myself.-   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.460 ************************