1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 26 Aug 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 471       Contents:% Re: allocation classes and satellites % Re: allocation classes and satellites % Re: allocation classes and satellites  Re: AntiVirus for OpenVMS ! Re: Anyone buying Itanium Boxen ? P Apology--LONG DISTANCE FOR 3.85 CENTS A MINUTE, NO MONTHLY FEE, NO 1010 NUMBER!!! Cluster node count (was Re: SYSn) % Re: Cluster node count (was Re: SYSn) % Re: Cluster node count (was Re: SYSn) / Re: connect FALCO 5220e to ALPHAstation 255/233  Re: DSSI problem Re: DSSI problem Re: ftp access to itrc( Re: M7940/DHV-11, TU58, and a VAX 11/750. Re: Mount DQB0 gets 'allready allocated' error. Re: Mount DQB0 gets 'allready allocated' error Re: OpenVMS Security) Re: OT: 64 bit desktop computing is here. $ Re: Patching Ident field of an Image$ Re: Patching Ident field of an Image2 Re: Question about a free shell provider - VisTech2 Re: Question about a free shell provider - VisTech+ Re: Reconstructing pdf file broken via mail + Re: Reconstructing pdf file broken via mail 2 Re: setting up a LAT service via a terminal server Re: SFTP Re: SFTP& Re: Shadow_max Copy Was: 306GB drives! Re: SYSn Re: SYSn Ups monitor to run on OpenVms." Re: Ups monitor to run on OpenVms." Re: Ups monitor to run on OpenVms." Re: Ups monitor to run on OpenVms., UW SCSI for VMS 7.3_1 on an Alphaserver 255?/ Re: volume shadowing with 2 x IDE disks on Ds10   Re: XML Parser for VAX (OpenVMS)  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2003 13:46:22 -07001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) . Subject: Re: allocation classes and satellites= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0308251246.2befb30e@posting.google.com>   | Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> wrote in message news:<01KZW1R85AX2AMSOR1@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>...E > Presumably, then, if the allocation classes were different, then I  : > COULDN'T serve the disk to other members of the cluster.  9 This is an area in which VMS' behavior has changed in the F not-too-distant past, and the former restriction in this area has been relaxed.   $ mcr sysgen$ SYSGEN>  HELP SYS_PAR MSCP_SERVE_ALL   Sys_Parameters    MSCP_SERVE_ALL   @    MSCP_SERVE_ALL is a bit mask that controls disk serving in anA    OpenVMS Cluster. A disk is served regardless of its allocation '    class unless bit 3 has a value of 1.   ;    Starting with OpenVMS Version 7.2, the serving types are A    implemented as a bit mask. To specify the type of serving your A    system will perform, locate the type you want in the following A    table and specify its value. For some systems, you may want to A    specify two serving types, such as serving the system disk and A    serving locally attached disks. To specify such a combination, 4    add the values of each type, and specify the sum.  ?    In a mixed-version cluster that includes any systems running @    OpenVMS Version 7.1-x or earlier, serving all available disksC    is restricted to serving all disks except those whose allocation @    class does not match the system's node allocation class (pre-A    Version 7.2). To specify this type of serving, use the value 9      (which sets bit 0 and bit 3).  D    The following table describes the serving type controlled by each    bit and its decimal value.   
    Bit and    Value    When Set   Description   C    Bit 0      Serve all available disks (locally attached and those @    (1)        connected to HSx and DSSI controllers). Disks with>               allocation classes that differ from the system'sC               allocation class (set by the ALLOCLASS parameter) are .               also served if bit 3 is not set.  >    Bit 1      Serve locally attached (non-HSx and DSSI) disks.    (2)  A    Bit 2      Serve the system disk. This is the default setting. ?    (4)        This setting is important when other nodes in the A               cluster rely on this system being able to serve its C               system disk. This setting prevents obscure contention ?               problems that can occur when a system attempts to C               complete I/O to a remote system disk whose system has                failed.   @    Bit 3      Restrict the serving specified by bit 0. All disksC    (8)        except those with allocation classes that differ from A               the system's allocation class (set by the ALLOCLASS $               parameter) are served.  ?               This is pre-Version 7.2 behavior. If your cluster @               includes systems running OpenVMS 7.1-x or earlier,A               and you want to serve all available disks, you must B               specify 9, the result of setting this bit and bit 0.  D    Although the serving types are now implemented as a bit mask, theD    values of 0, 1, and 2, specified by bit 0 and bit 1, retain their    original meanings:   B    o  0 - Do not serve any disks (the default for earlier versions       of OpenVMS).  $    o  1 - Serve all available disks.  C    o  2 - Serve only locally attached (non-HSx and non-DSSI) disks.   <    If the MSCP_LOAD system parameter is 0, MSCP_SERVE_ALL is    ignored.    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 02:43:00 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) . Subject: Re: allocation classes and satellites( Message-ID: <biehfk$f8q$1@pcls4.std.com>  ; Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> writes:   O >> > Sounds like it may be related to an older restriction where a MSCP serving K >> > node must have the same allocation class as the disks it serves.  What L >> > version are you running?  I fixed this a while ago (in V7.1+patches and >> > in all later versions). >>    >> It's still in the 7.2-1 HELP.  J >Two corrections: First: documentation, not HELP.  Second, it is still in A >the 7.1 documentation.  (I think this was the last CD with full  ) >BOOKREADER docs, so I tend to use that.)   H I'll get this looked at.  (Sort of OK if it's in the V7.1 files since my" change is not in _unpatched_ V7.1)   --   -Mike    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 02:47:31 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) . Subject: Re: allocation classes and satellites( Message-ID: <bieho3$f8q$2@pcls4.std.com>  = koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:   G >> A related question: My hobbyist cluster has 1 DSSI disk, inside of a F >> VAX.  At the moment, it has the same allocation class as the VAX.  @ >> Everything seems to work, but in general is this good or bad?  H >  If the system's allocation class does not match the disk's allocationG >  class then only that system can see the disk, it cannot be served to  >  the cluster.     0 As I wrote earlier, no longer true (as of V7.2). --   -Mike    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2003 14:53:35 -0500- From: Kilgallen@SpamCop.net (Larry Kilgallen) " Subject: Re: AntiVirus for OpenVMS3 Message-ID: <CzKN5VxfQgM7@eisner.encompasserve.org>   W In article <3f4a23eb$1@news.si.com>, "Brian Tillman" <Tillman@sparkingwire.com> writes: G >>A client is being forced by its security chappies to (a) implement an F >>AV solution on their VMS boxes, or (b) come up with some irrefutable# >>reasons why this is not required.  > N > VMS Mail is not an active agent; i.e. it does not try to execute whatever is( > contained in the messages it receives.  ? Of course there are viruses that have nothing to do with email, : so any discussion of viruses should address those as well.  H (Not that such a discussion would portray VMS in any less stellar terms.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:26:57 GMT 9 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com> * Subject: Re: Anyone buying Itanium Boxen ?2 Message-ID: <Rxs2b.3238$o43.1372@news.cpqcorp.net>  H Since this has been our primary development platform, you might see someK demand for them from VMS users who want to try-out IPF around the holidays. & Think of them as stocking stuffers ;-)    1 "Island" <dbturner@islandco.com> wrote in message ) news:vkc3spgrlock3d@news.supernews.com... ? > We are starting to get offered the Itanium beasties  (RX2600)  >  > Anyone biting? > L > I personally think we should stick with Alpha for the next couple of years
 > until HPK > finds a way to screen print "Itanium III" over the Gold "EVx" etching :0)  >  > -- > David B Turner! > Island Computers US Corporation  > 2700 Gregory St., Suite 180  > Savannah GA 31404  > Tel: 912 447 6622  > Fax: 912 201 0402  > Email: dbturner@hpaq.net > http://www.hpaq.net  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 13:28:22 -0700 ' From: "Bill" <customers@futurestec.com> Y Subject: Apology--LONG DISTANCE FOR 3.85 CENTS A MINUTE, NO MONTHLY FEE, NO 1010 NUMBER!! 2 Message-ID: <Bju2b.14536$y1.44086@news.uswest.net>  % I am very sorry about spamming this.. * I have read through many newsgroups before+ that all had spam.  I thought that this was   an acceptable way of marketing. $ I want to apologize to everyone and 0 let you know that you will never see this again.     Thanks for your understanding.    + Go Here 3.85 cents per minute ...No Pop-ups 1 http://www.globalfibernet.com/click.asp?nAd=GA202    -- Posted by News Bulk Poster Unregistered version   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2003 13:48:32 -07001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) * Subject: Cluster node count (was Re: SYSn)= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0308251248.51b70474@posting.google.com>   p seanobanion@attbi.com (Sean O'Banion) wrote in message news:<f883d5a4.0308242000.36a5999b@posting.google.com>...H > I think the recommended limit on the number of nodes in one cluster is& > 96, so that might be a useful limit.  F The supported limit in the OpenVMS Cluster Software SPD is indeed 96. B It was raised to 96 as of version 5.2.  IIRC, the numbers of nodesE supported in the SPD as time progressed were 13, 26, 42, and now 96.  C (I personally feel the number is long overdue for a raise again, if ' for nothing more than bragging rights.)   B The design limit in the cluster code is 256 nodes, and there are a? number of 8-bit wide fields in data structures as a result.  It E appears the next potential problem area would be at 223 or 224 nodes, @ as IIRC there is one place in PEDRIVER where data structures getF numbered in the 0:223 range, with the intent of avoiding a range of IDB numbers reserved in CI for possible future Multicast functionality (but which never got used).   E A cluster of 151 nodes was built (and ran for a number of years) at a D customer site in Houston, under a special support agreement with VMS; Engineering.  There were some bugs to fix on the way there: 4 o  SYSMAN had a limit of 128 nodes.  Fixed in 5.5-1.E o  MOUNT/CLUSTER caused a crash on the initiating node when trying to E mount a disk on more than 96 nodes, due to a fixed-size table.  Fixed 	 in 5.5-2. D o  Day-one race-condition bug in the connection manager caused stateC transition propose/abort loops at above about 120-130 nodes.  Fixed  circa V6.0.   F I've heard rumors of clusters of twice the supported limit being builtE at 3-letter US Government agencies, which appears quite possible, but . of course I haven't been able to confirm that.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:21:08 -0500 / From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> . Subject: Re: Cluster node count (was Re: SYSn)3 Message-ID: <3F4AB604.C8ED659F@applied-synergy.com>    Keith Parris wrote:  > r > seanobanion@attbi.com (Sean O'Banion) wrote in message news:<f883d5a4.0308242000.36a5999b@posting.google.com>...J > > I think the recommended limit on the number of nodes in one cluster is( > > 96, so that might be a useful limit. > G > The supported limit in the OpenVMS Cluster Software SPD is indeed 96. D > It was raised to 96 as of version 5.2.  IIRC, the numbers of nodesF > supported in the SPD as time progressed were 13, 26, 42, and now 96.E > (I personally feel the number is long overdue for a raise again, if ) > for nothing more than bragging rights.)  > D > The design limit in the cluster code is 256 nodes, and there are aA > number of 8-bit wide fields in data structures as a result.  It G > appears the next potential problem area would be at 223 or 224 nodes, B > as IIRC there is one place in PEDRIVER where data structures getH > numbered in the 0:223 range, with the intent of avoiding a range of IDD > numbers reserved in CI for possible future Multicast functionality > (but which never got used).  > G > A cluster of 151 nodes was built (and ran for a number of years) at a F > customer site in Houston, under a special support agreement with VMS= > Engineering.  There were some bugs to fix on the way there: 6 > o  SYSMAN had a limit of 128 nodes.  Fixed in 5.5-1.G > o  MOUNT/CLUSTER caused a crash on the initiating node when trying to G > mount a disk on more than 96 nodes, due to a fixed-size table.  Fixed  > in 5.5-2. F > o  Day-one race-condition bug in the connection manager caused stateE > transition propose/abort loops at above about 120-130 nodes.  Fixed 
 > circa V6.0.  > H > I've heard rumors of clusters of twice the supported limit being builtG > at 3-letter US Government agencies, which appears quite possible, but 0 > of course I haven't been able to confirm that.     FWIW:   H Back in the late 80s (VMS 5.3/5.4 timeframe), I saw a cluster consistingF of an 8800 boot/file server node and 95 VAXstation 2000s.  This took 4 hours to boot all nodes.  D A similar (but smaller) cluster that we put together consisted of 36G VAXstation 3100s where every fifth node was a boot node. One node was a + file server containing all data/user files.   G Each boot node contained VMS and all layered products.  (We used RSM to G keep things synchronized.)  Each boot node and its four satellites were E on their own thinwire segment.  The boot nodes were also used as user : workstations.  This took 20 minutes to boot from power up.  ? Big clusters work, but make sure the interconnects are designed 
 correctly!  G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- $ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  C Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com     Fax: 817-237-3074    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 02:52:08 +0000 (UTC) 7 From: moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) . Subject: Re: Cluster node count (was Re: SYSn)( Message-ID: <biei0o$f8q$3@pcls4.std.com>  G Another bug that some customer found by running beyond the supported 96 E node limit:  A byte field in the MSCP server was treated as signed in J one spot.  Needed 130+ nodes in a cluster to ever see this.  Fixed a while back.  --   -Mike    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 17:59:27 GMT 4 From: Tim Llewellyn <tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk>8 Subject: Re: connect FALCO 5220e to ALPHAstation 255/2330 Message-ID: <3F4A4C91.8CE292D6@blueyonder.co.uk>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:  > G > Several years ago, I used to have a FALCO 5220e terminal connected to J > the serial port (OPA0 or TTA0) of an ALPHAstation 255/233.  Now, I can't > get it to work.  > H > The serial ports on the ALPHAstation work OK; a VT320 connects up withJ > no problem.  Thus, I suspect that the problem is with the FALCO terminal > and/or with the cables.  > H > The cables are PHYSICALLY OK, since other connections using them work. > J > When I had things working several years ago, I had a couple of very longC > serial cables connected together and used that as the connection. H > Presumably, the reason was that a standard serial cable wouldn't work,? > and the ones which did had some non-standard pin connections.  > F > Does the FALCO require a different sort of cable (apart from gender)E > than a VT320 (the FALCO has a female RS232 connector on the back (2 G > actually, one for each port) whereas the VT320 has a male connector)? I > There are so many options in the setup that even if it were possible to G > change the nature of the connection, I doubt I could find it.  Anyone  > know if this is possible?  > F > What should the setup values be for the FALCO to use it as a console! > terminal with the ALPHAstation?  > H > I have a serial cable where I can flip switches to turn the individualH > pins on and off at each end.  What should the settings be for a VT320? > For the FALCO?  L I addition to checking for modem/null modem by swapping data leads as othersG suggest, are you SURE the terminal setup has not changed. The Falco's I I remember had an MMJ port as well as 25 pin, with a SETUP swicth to toggle  betwteen them.     --   tim.llewellyn@blueyonder.co.uk   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 01:57:34 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> Subject: Re: DSSI problem - Message-ID: <87ad9x8vsh.fsf@prep.synonet.com>   4 Thierry Dussuet <thierry@squeeeez.no-ip.com> writes:  H > - a small green electronic component with a white "O" written below it >   on the circuit board.   I That is one of the Pico Fuses. It should pull out of the terminal sockets 
 on the board.   3 > Is it one of these 3? Or is it on the other side?   D I think there is also another one on the inside surface of the board
 for bus 1.     --  < Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:34:27 +0100   From: nic <spamthis@[127.0.0.1]> Subject: Re: DSSI problem 4 Message-ID: <bie697$9iq$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk>   Paul Repacholi wrote: 6 > Thierry Dussuet <thierry@squeeeez.no-ip.com> writes: >  > H >>- a small green electronic component with a white "O" written below it >>  on the circuit board.  >  > K > That is one of the Pico Fuses. It should pull out of the terminal sockets  > on the board.   A However, as the terminator lights up, the pico fuse should be OK.   H  From the rest of the messages, I can only think that DSSI cabling from I the internal busses has come adrift from the top row of the drives. I've  @ not had a 4000 series chassis in pieces to know how it connects.  C This would seem logical as none of the drives now appear. They are   receiving power.  I I suppose one thing to try would be pulling out one of the other drives,  F it is possible that the interface on one drive is killing the rest of  the devices on the bus.   G And yes, as to the drive being pushed in far enough, if you can fasten  " the screws, it is in far enough...  
 Regards , Nic    nclews at spamless csc dot com   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:20:01 -0400   From: John Santos <JOHN@egh.com> Subject: Re: ftp access to itrc 5 Message-ID: <1030825181107.3498A-100000@Ives.egh.com>     On 25 Aug 2003, Bart Zorn wrote:  G > Well, there is a simple explanation for that: via Mozilla I can reach / > the site, but using command line ftp I can't.  > F > I did not bother to find out why that is yet. Maybe I will sometime. > Could be a firewall issue. >  > Bart  F I think Mozilla (and most/all web browsers) use PASSIVE mode to accessD ftp://... stuff.  Most FTP clients default to ACTIVE mode but can be0 switched to PASSIVE by typing "PASSIVE" at them.  A TCPWare has had PASSIVE mode for years, and so has MGFTP/HGFTP, I B think) but it is relatively new in UCX.  It's in V5.3, the command in FTP is "SET PASSIVE ON".   C If you don't use PASSIVE mode and your firewall is blocking inbound ? FTP data connections, then the symptom is you can establish ftp ? sessions with remote nodes, but you can't do directory listings A or transfer files.  When you try, the client just hangs until you > control/Y out.  I don't know what happens with $ COPY/FTP.  In> VMS V7.3-1 (I don't know about early versions), COPY/FTP has a /PASSIVE qualifier.    > | > brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton) wrote in message news:<zRl2b.191338$It4.93408@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net>...i > > In article <a98cd882.0308242256.6c45ca8f@posting.google.com>, Bart.Zorn@xs4all.nl (Bart Zorn) writes: H > > !Indeed, it works. But on my DS10 with Mozilla the directory listing > > !looks hopelessly garbled. > > !  > > !Bart Zorn > > !  > > K > > I found that the post I was attempting to repond to was actually in the  > > openvms.org forum.  Oops.  > > P > > Bart, if you don't mind my asking, why access an FTP site with Mozilla, whenA > > you (presumably) have "native" FTP capability from your DS10?  > > N > > __________________________________________________________________________E > > Bradford J. Hamilton                    "All opinions are my own" O > > bMradAhamiPltSon-at-coMmcAast.nPeSt     "Lose the MAPS, and replace '-at-'  4 > >                                          with @" >  >    --   John Santos  Evans Griffiths & Hart, Inc. 781-861-0670 ext 539   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:07:49 -0500 / From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com> 1 Subject: Re: M7940/DHV-11, TU58, and a VAX 11/750 3 Message-ID: <3F4AB2E5.DCCCE3E1@applied-synergy.com>    Hans Vlems wrote:  > + > <misc@vectorgames.org> schreef in bericht ) > news:bianvs$tvd@library2.airnews.net...  > > J > An RL02 is not big enough to hold VMS. If you have an 11/780, how do you > boot VMS on that system?L > The reason I ask is this: should you have an RA class drive then you couldL > dual home that drive and connect the UDA-50 of the 11/750 to the "B" port.J > Assuming you do have a UDA-50 in the 750, right? AFAIK there's no way to > boot an 11/750 across a LAN.  H Actually, running VMS from an RL02 is possible.  It was supported in theA VMS 4.x time frame.  The installation could tailor VMS across two F drives, usually a pair of RL02s or an RL02 and an R80. Most often on a VAX 730)  G ----------------------------------------------------------------------- $ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  C Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com     Fax: 817-237-3074    ------------------------------   Date: 26 Aug 03 07:43:31 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 7 Subject: Re: Mount DQB0 gets 'allready allocated' error ) Message-ID: <jKx2$QG0LqOU@elias.decus.ch>   i In article <biceip$oqm5@doiweb4.wob.vw.vwg>, Karl Rohwedder <extern.karl.rohwedder@volkswagen.de> writes:  > Karl Rohwedder wrote:  > G >> I try to mount a CDROM (DQB0) on a DS10 and get the 'device already  & >> allocated to another user' - error,0 >> though SHOW DEV /FULL display an empty owner: >>   >> $ allo dqb0? >> %SYSTEM-W-DEVALLOC, device already allocated to another user  >>  # >> $  moun/over=id/media=cdrom dqb0 < >> %MOUNT-I-OPRQST, device already allocated to another userK >> %MOUNT-I-OPRQST, device _$1$DQB0: (QAK01) is not available for mounting.  >>   >> $ sh dev dqb0/fu  >>   >>  D >> Disk $1$DQB0: (QAK01), device type Compaq  CRD-8402B, is online,  >> file-orientedI >>     device, shareable, available to cluster, error logging is enabled.  >>  N >> Error count                    0    Operations completed                907O >> Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC                       [SYSTEM] O >> Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot             S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G:R,W N >> Reference count                1    Default buffer size                 512O >> Total blocks             1290232    Sectors per  track                     8 O >> Total cylinders            40320    Tracks per  cylinder                   4 # >> Allocation class               1  >>  J Karl, the clue here is that the "Total blocks" and "Total cylinders" linesK do not show in a show dev/full for an unmounted disk. The "Reference count" E of 1 also indicates that it is mounted. By way of contrast, here's my   unmounted CD (Alpha VMS V7.3-1):   $ sh dev dkb/fu   N Disk $1$DKB400: (NODE), device type TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5701TA, is online, file-P     oriented device, shareable, served to cluster via MSCP Server, error logging     is enabled.   L  Error count                    0    Operations completed                  0L  Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC                      [SYSTEM]L  Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot            S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G:R,WL  Reference count                0    Default buffer size                 512!  Allocation class               1              >> PID 60B5 is myself. >>  / >> Has somebody the same problem or a solution?  >>   >  > The problem is solved: > G > The user tried to create a Pathworks Share on this CDROM, but failed. I > The PWRL$LMSRV process has a channel open on DQB0. Restarting Pathworks  > freed the device.  >  > --   > - > mit freundlichen Gren | with best regards  > " > Karl Rohwedder		iT-Ingenieurteam& > Ellernbruch 11		D-38112 Braunschweig > G > mailto:it-ingteam(at)t-online.de | mailto:rohwedder(at)decus.decus.de / > mailto:extern.karl.rohwedder(at)volkswagen.de  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 05:51:14 +0000 - From: David B Sneddon <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> 7 Subject: Re: Mount DQB0 gets 'allready allocated' error * Message-ID: <3F4AF552.9080706@bigpond.com>   Paul Sture espoused:
 	[...snip...]  > L > Karl, the clue here is that the "Total blocks" and "Total cylinders" linesM > do not show in a show dev/full for an unmounted disk. The "Reference count" G > of 1 also indicates that it is mounted. By way of contrast, here's my " > unmounted CD (Alpha VMS V7.3-1): > 
 	[...snip...]  Not true...    $ show dev/fu cdrom   O Disk $255$DQB0: (TARDIS), device type TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6202B, is online, file- P      oriented device, shareable, available to cluster, error logging is enabled.  P      Error count                    0    Operations completed             109641P      Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC                      [SYSTEM]P      Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot            S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G:R,WP      Reference count                0    Default buffer size                 512P      Total blocks            16515072    Sectors per track                    63P      Total cylinders            16384    Tracks per cylinder                  16%      Allocation class             255   D Reference count is zero.  No CD-ROM in the drive but I still see theF "Total blocks" info.  Alpha XP1000 VMS 7.3-1 with all the latest ECOs.C A non-zero reference count does not mean it is mounted, simply that * there is a channel assigned to the device.   Regards, Dave.  --  I David B Sneddon (dbs)    VMS Systems Programmer     dbsneddon@bigpond.com I Sneddo's quick guide ...          http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/ I DBS freeware at ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm I "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" Lennon    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2003 12:49:52 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) Subject: Re: OpenVMS Security = Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0308251149.5388b731@posting.google.com>    "Stuart, Ed" <Ed.Stuart@austinenergy.com> wrote in message news:<92EFB80E551BD511B39500D0B7B0CDCC0CEF9D18@ohms.electric.ci.austin.tx.us>... M > Where can I find information that describes why OpenVMS is more secure than N > other operating systems?  I'm looking for something like a comparison on howI > Windows, Unix, and OpenVMS handle common attacks like buffer overflows.  >  > EdG > **Please apply a generous amount of all the usual disclaimers here.**    how about OpenVMS mail ...         Update: August 2002        Date:  March 1991          Hewlett-Packard Company        HP Services ,       Software Security Response Team (SSRT)  >       What you should know about HP OpenVMS and Malicious Code  F       Computer "viruses" have become more widespread recently and haveI gained significant publicity not just because of the damage that they may E directly do, but because they point out the ease of which potentially E serious damage could be done. A computer Virus may be referenced as a K special form of "Trojan horse" software. Viruses and Trojans are classified I as "malicious code" software that may perform a useful function, but also F may contain hidden functions that could perform any number of sociallyG unacceptable acts such as deleting files, creating a denial of service, J creating new user accounts, or displaying bogus information. To date thereF have been no confirmed or reported cases of an operable OpenVMS virus.  J       There have been reports that were verified rather as malicious code.I It should be pointed out that, with few exceptions, reported viruses have L been in the personal computer environment rather than the traditional vendorF developed operating systems. One reason for this is the lack of systemF controls in most PC systems to protect programs and data. In a PC, theL typical virus attacks a specific target or object, such as the boot block ofI a newly mounted disk, or a particular application or utility. In OpenVMS, K all the obvious points of attack such as the file structure or known system L programs are protected. Thus, a virus has a much harder problem to solve andJ this added difficulty makes the virus harder to write and easier to detect when it tries to propagate.   2 http://www.sophos.com/support/faqs/savopenvms.html  8 1.1. Can my OpenVMS system become infected with a virus?B There are currently no known viruses which infect OpenVMS systems.C However, it is often useful for an OpenVMS system to scan files for - viruses which infect other operating systems.   3 This may be the case when an OpenVMS system is used   D As a file server for PCs and Macs (e.g. Pathworks/Advanced Server). % To provide an ALL-IN-1 file cabinet.  3 For processing email with attachments (e.g. PMDF).  E In addition, Sophos Anti-Virus for OpenVMS installed as an InterCheck 4 Server can provide on-access logging for client PCs.   ------------------------------   Date: 26 Aug 03 07:53:05 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 2 Subject: Re: OT: 64 bit desktop computing is here.) Message-ID: <9m5hBIrUXqfS@elias.decus.ch>   j In article <vpejkvsj7h4frq3b0m99ro06au557didjs@4ax.com>, Milton <mbhewitt@SPAMBLOCK.optonline.net> writes:J > On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 20:31:21 -0400, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> > wrote: > N >>While people were arguing whether AMD might survive long enough to introduce+ >>its 64 bit 8086, Apple was hard at work.   >>K >>They have now introduced the G5, which is a 64 bit Power4 core with added E >>gadgets such as Apple's velocity engine. 13nm copper process. 2Ghz.  >> >>http://www.apple.com/ca/G5 >>P >>Oh, and it can run 32 bit MAC applications natively with no performance hit or >>need for an emulator.  >> >>Power Mac G5 >>Dual 2GHz PowerPC G5. >>SPECint_base2000: Integer calculations: 	8003 >>SPECfp_base2000: Floating-point calculations: 840 3 >>SPECint_rate_base2000: Integer calculations: 17.2 9 >>SPECfp_rate_base2000: Floating-point calculations: 15.7  >>M >>In the performance white paper, they only compare it to the 3ghz 8086. They M >>also compare real world applications perforance such as photoshop. It would F >>have been interesting to see comparisons with Alpha EV7 and whatever+ >>version-du-jour IA64 has available today.  >>M >>Can anyone comment on whether Apple's G5 truly ranks as the world's fastest Q >>desktop processor or will it be outranked by AMD's offering when it comes out ?  >>8 >>And how does it fare against IA64 based workstations ? >>M >>Also, how does the 3mhz 8086 compare to whatever is currently available for , >>IA64 if you exclude non-CPU differences ?  >>H >>Interestingly, the G5 achieves its perforance with only 512k L2 cache. >  > Read7 > http://www.amdzone.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1296  > G > Here's the real SPEC CPU2000 and the false results from Apple, all on 4 > the same graph. It also contains opteron results. > > http://www.amdzone.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=1296&page=2 >   K And another comparison at http://www.theandyzone.com/Computer/shootout.html   , I think the author's concluding paragraph atL http://www.theandyzone.com/Computer/shootout4.html should not be overlooked:  A "It's nice to see that Apple is at least being competitive from a C speed standpoint, but it's also easy to lose perspective about whatgF Macs are all about when looking at speed races. For me, Macs are about@ elegance and ease of use more than speed. Getting something doneC quickly is part of overall productivity, but even more important isbA how well it works, how easy it is to use, and how much one enjoysUC using it. I switched over from Windows because I felt I gained morenC than I lost. I have to admit, though, that if I got the speed back,a1 the rewards of switching would be doubly-sweet!" o  F Horses for courses, and of course, no Blaster or SoBig to contend with :-)4   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:04:45 GMT'9 From: Hein van den Heuvel <hein_netscape@eps.zko.dec.com> - Subject: Re: Patching Ident field of an Imagei/ Message-ID: <3F4A5D00.BCD78DFE@eps.zko.dec.com>e   Anders Wallin wrote:   > Hello, > B > I would like to stamp the "Ident" field of an image with a value' > reflecting a released system version.e   > :c  & > I'm using Alpha, VMS 7.2 and higher.  D For alpha (aka Evax) the image header is nicely documented in module $EIHDDEF in SYS$LIBRARY:LIB.G The ident section details are in $EIHIDEF. For VAX those are IHDDEF andi IHIDEF  I Here is DCL hack that will display image name and ident (FOR ALPHA ONLY!)  andmI optionally patch the ident if P2 is provided. Use quoted string for p2 ifr spaces are needed.G (The VAX/ALPHA image awareness is left as an optional excercise for the 
 reader :-)  
 Good luck, Hein.-  1 $IF p1 .EQS. "" THEN INQUIRE p1 "Image file name"g $IF p1 .EQS. "" THEN $EXIT4 $! Show Image_Id.com    Hein van den Heuvel, Dec-94.? $EIHD$W_IMGIDOFF = 24 ! Symbolic header offset from $EIHDDEF in8 SYS$LIBRARY:LIBo; $EIHI$T_IMGID = 56 ! Symbolic ident offset from $EIHIDEF in- SYS$LIBRARY:LIB  $EIHI$T_IMGNAM = 16W $file_name = F$PARSE(p1,".EXE")r
 $IF p2.eqs.""r $ THEN( $   OPEN/READ/ERRO=Ooops file 'file_name $ ELSE. $   OPEN/READ/WRITE/ERRO=Ooops file 'file_name $ENDIF $READ file records* $ihi = F$CVSI(EIHD$W_IMGIDOFF*8,16,record)" $name_offset = ihi + EIHI$T_IMGNAM- $name_length = F$CVSI(name_offset*8,8,record) I $WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "Image Name: ", F$EXTRACT(name_offset + 1, name_length,e record )C $id_offset = ihi + EIHI$T_IMGID ) $id_length = F$CVSI(id_offset*8,8,record) C $WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "Image Id: ", F$EXTRACT(id_offset + 1, id_length,  record)s
 $IF p2.nes.""a $THENu $  l = f$length(p2)n $  if l.gt.15 then l = 15  $  record[id_offset*8,8] = l $  record[id_offset+1,l] := 'p2y" $  write /symbo/update file record $ENDIF $CLOSE filee $EXITp $Ooops:t5 $WRITE SYS$OUTPUT "Fail to open file : ", 'file_name'    ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 01:31:32 GMTv# From: hoff@hp.nospam (Hoff Hoffman)l- Subject: Re: Patching Ident field of an Imagea1 Message-ID: <ULy2b.3267$Rs3.345@news.cpqcorp.net>   j In article <79de16e3.0308250339.2aaf3fda@posting.google.com>, Anders.Wallin@om.com (Anders Wallin) writes:  A :I would like to stamp the "Ident" field of an image with a valuekF :reflecting a released system version. This information is however not@ :available during linking so I can't place it in an option file.  B   Then use something that is available at link time, and map it to@   the released version -- use these and track the image maps andB   listings.  (OpenVMS engineering uses a three-digit base-36 build@   identification value for this purpose -- you may have seen theB   build ident X9E9 buried within an OpenVMS Alpha V7.3-1 disk, forB   instance.  Each system build increments the value.  PCSI is tiedD   into this, too -- this is buried in the image build identification?   field, and how PCSI manages the image versions for ECO kits.)   B   If you patch the images, also realize your images will not matchA   the values on your listings and maps -- this can obviously makeg"   support rather more interesting.  A   If this version value is for a user display, have the tool loadsB   the necessary data from a data file somewhere, and (re)set that.  8 :Does anyone have a utility that can do this job for me? :a% :I'm using Alpha, VMS 7.2 and higher.   C   There are pointers to patching stuff on Alpha in the OpenVMS FAQ.   E   I generally don't recommend the patch approach for production code..  E   This back-patching approach also won't work on Itanium -- well, notrC   without requiring changes.  The image file formats differ betweenL0   VAX and Alpha, and Itanium is quite different.  C   You will want to maintain full listings and full maps, of course.   C   Again, I'd not back-patch the images -- well, not without knowingnB   a whole lot more detail about why you think you want to do this.    N  ---------------------------- #include <rtfaq.h> -----------------------------K     For additional, please see the OpenVMS FAQ -- www.hp.com/go/openvms/faqyN  --------------------------- pure personal opinion ---------------------------E         Hoff (Stephen) Hoffman   OpenVMS Engineering   hoff[at]hp.como   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2003 16:49:40 -0700- From: djcameron60616@yahoo.com (stg-delfuego) ; Subject: Re: Question about a free shell provider - VisTechd= Message-ID: <6b28e43f.0308251549.19381100@posting.google.com>0  v keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris) wrote in message news:<cf15391e.0308250926.79ed0d46@posting.google.com>...t > djcameron60616@yahoo.com (stg-delfuego) wrote in message news:<6b28e43f.0308231600.2ba19449@posting.google.com>...J > > 3.  Anyone know of a good site offering free user accounts on VMS that > > is available?v > G > I recommend ENCOMPASServe (aka DECUServe).  Lots of good information,y7 > and a friendly community of users as well.  TELNET tod; > encompasserve.org and log in under username REGISTRATION.2   Keith,  B Thank you very much for the recommandation of this server.  I haveF signed up and look forward to joining in discussions there, as well as/ practicing programming.  Again, thank you much.    Delfuego   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2003 16:50:58 -0700- From: djcameron60616@yahoo.com (stg-delfuego)-; Subject: Re: Question about a free shell provider - VisTech3< Message-ID: <6b28e43f.0308251550.94adc52@posting.google.com>  r Doc.Cypher <Use-Author-Address-Header@[127.1]> wrote in message news:<20030824074529.23930.qmail@gacracker.org>...@ > On 23 Aug 2003, djcameron60616@yahoo.com (stg-delfuego) wrote: >  > 7 > >1.  Anyone here know when their site may be back up?X > N > I'm logged in to the cluster right now.  It hasn't been down, there are some6 > niggles with the NEWUSER setup that need ironed out. > G > >2.  Anyone know if their are commands I can run in the system to seetI > >if my account (signed up a few months back up and got too busy to keept> > >up with it), only withing good taste and legal constraints? >  > Log into DEMO and do >  > $ FINGER <username>A > K > If you've forgotten the password I'm afraid I can't help you, the NEWUSERR > account isn't my area. > I > >3.  Anyone know of a good site offering free user accounts on VMS thatn > >is available? >  > Google for Hobbes the VAX. >  >  > Doc.   Doc,  E Thank you much for the recommendation of this site.  I have signed uptF for it, and look forward to using it as well as another VAXen I signed up on.  
 Thanks again,    Delfuego   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:15:06 +0200 , From: Albrecht Schlosser <ajs856@tiscali.de>4 Subject: Re: Reconstructing pdf file broken via mail, Message-ID: <cmjdib.619.ln@news.hus-soft.de>   JF Mezei wrote:. >  > Albrecht Schlosser wrote:oI > > One _possible_ solution: If it was sent as text, would you be able to-% > > forward the mail to a pc as text?  > O > I don't have a PC... Forwarding it through SMTP would increase the likelyhoodiM > of CR/LF screwups because the file would be trated by VMS and possibly some  > other SMTP server.  ? Maybe not. You didn't really write what "I was able to find theVB actual VMS file ..." means. What file? A file with all the "quotedH printable" encoding? If this is true, then the lines shouldn't be longerG than 80 bytes and have some "=40" or "=XF" or so within them. Lines endoF with a single "=". Maybe you can write this file on a DOS diskette andH carry it to a friend who has a PC. Netscape/Mozilla, e.g., has/have mailA "folders" that contain text files. Each mail begins with the linee   Mail from -   H followed by the mail with all the headers (note the trailing blank). YouC don't need more than this, though normally there is a date and time2H after this. I do often "move" mail files this way from one PC to anotherE (home to office and vice versa). If the mail file has all the headers1F (you wrote something about removing the headers), then the mail clientH could do the decoding by "storing the attachment" as a file. If this canH be done, then there is _some_ possibility that this file is identical to the original file.  O > The problem is that some data may have bene permanently lost during receptiontO > from the pop server to the VMS host when I treat incoming data from the TCPIP = > pipe and store it as a text file in variable record format.r  B If this is true, then I assume that you can't recover the file :-(  H > I know that the file does contains some CR characters in the middle ofO > vbariable length records. However, I have no idea how much damage to the filegK > may have occured during transport between the government and myself (manyj > servers involved).  D If it arrives as "quoted printable", then I'd guess that this is theF same format that the original sender used. Mail servers normally don't7 touch the mail contents, unless they add something like @ "X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit ..." to the headers.  L > It is surprising that some microsoft software would/could be configured soK > poorly as to send binary attachements without any RFC compliant encoding.    I'm _not_ surprised  :-)   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:11:18 -0500 / From: Chris Scheers <chris@applied-synergy.com>,4 Subject: Re: Reconstructing pdf file broken via mail3 Message-ID: <3F4AB3B6.C6401C70@applied-synergy.com>e   JF Mezei wrote:  > 
 > Hein wrote:nQ > > Convert will trust and use the file attributes as stored. Mostly likely thosee > > attributes > > do NOT match the contents. > P > Well, they match the contents. The problem is that the contents were corrupted8 > during transport because they were assumed to be text. > O > And I couldn't just pay with the file, I had to edit the file first to remove1N > the RFC822 headers leaving only what seemed to be the PDF "binary" contents.K > My mail program would have reconstitutedthe quoted printable stuff into auM > single file, but it would have assumed it was a text file, hence created in-O > variable record format which MAIL likes. My guess is that some stray CR or LF L > inside some stream would have been converted to CR-LF, thus corrupting the > compressed contents. > 7 > > I tend to used DUMP [/RECORD] to verify the variousoG > > formats (stream, stream_lf (unix), stream_cr (nt), variable (vms)).e > N > One of the converts I did seemed to reconstitute the file with CR-LFs in theJ > right place, including when I used a hex editor on the mac after the FTP) > transfer. But Acrobat still complained.-    F A PDF file is truly a binary file, even though some appear to be text.  F Near the end of the file is a directory to the rest of the file.  ThisF directory includes the byte position of various items in the file.  If@ these items are not at the expected places, the file is corrupt.  E Running the PDF file through a text transport quite often changes any G <CR> or <LF> characters in the file to <CR><LF> pairs.  This throws the $ positions off and corrupts the file.  ? Unfortunately, changing back is not always easy.  Sometimes thedH character should be a <CR>, sometimes a <LF>.  Also, if a line break was8 inserted every "n" characters, things can get real ugly.  G If possible, please send me the file and a description of what happenedaB to it.  I would like to add it to my set of PDF files corrupted by
 transfers.  H Your best bet is to request that the file be resent.  Ideally, it shouldD be ZIPped first.  This seems to be the most reliable way to send PDF file.o  G -----------------------------------------------------------------------E$ Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc.  C Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com     Fax: 817-237-3074I   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 02:25:55 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>; Subject: Re: setting up a LAT service via a terminal server - Message-ID: <8765kl8uh8.fsf@prep.synonet.com>n  R helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:  E > OK, I remember doing this years ago at the university, but how do Ii' > "set up the service" on the VMS side?i  E If you start LAT in your system startup, thats all you NEED. Defining D a cluster wide service is an added luxury. If he is like my horrors,6 he will figure it out quicker than you want to know :)   -- e< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda. @                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2003 14:14:52 -0700$ From: benitos@stcc.cc.tx.us (Benito) Subject: Re: SFTPt= Message-ID: <ad6309a1.0308251314.7cce11cc@posting.google.com>d  s Mike Freeman <k7uij@nospam.panix.com> wrote in message news:<Pine.NEB.4.56.0308201205050.28178@panix3.panix.com>...t > Greetings. > J > The electric utility for which I work obtains a fair amount of data fromJ > the Internet via ftp using command procedures.  We have UCX installed soG > are using its ftp client.  One of the sites from which we get data iswI > shifting to use of SFTP (as in the UNIX SFTP).  Is there a client which-9 > will run under VAX/VMS which can handle SFTP transfers?- >  > Thanks much in advance.r >  > Mike Freeman < K 7 U I J >  F Like the others have said, Process software has the ssh v2 available. D I use it all the time and it works great.  It included ssh, sftp and scp.   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2003 19:29:44 -0700( From: bob@instantwhip.com (Bob Ceculski) Subject: Re: SFTP$= Message-ID: <d7791aa1.0308251829.3683aa5d@posting.google.com>n  ~ "John Gemignani, Jr." <jon-nope@thiswontworkossc.net> wrote in message news:<wKL1b.6587$Nc.4102313@news1.news.adelphia.net>...7 > "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in message-8 > news:d7791aa1.0308221855.fa5e913@posting.google.com...: > > Mike Freeman <k7uij@nospam.panix.com> wrote in message? >  news:<Pine.NEB.4.56.0308201205050.28178@panix3.panix.com>...a > > > Greetings. > > > N > > > The electric utility for which I work obtains a fair amount of data fromN > > > the Internet via ftp using command procedures.  We have UCX installed soK > > > are using its ftp client.  One of the sites from which we get data iscM > > > shifting to use of SFTP (as in the UNIX SFTP).  Is there a client which = > > > will run under VAX/VMS which can handle SFTP transfers?  > > >  > > > Thanks much in advance.n > > >t  > > > Mike Freeman < K 7 U I J > > >Y@ > > it comes with TCPware, the best IP stack for VMS ... it runs= > > crisper than multinet or ucx in a head to head comparisono@ > > between the 3, plus it is still based on the VMS kernel well) > > the others are unix (yuck!) based ...  > N > Just about the only thing missing from your posts is that little Intel tune.H > We still haven't determined what "crisper" is and why you're comparing* > the "crispiness" of networking software. >  > -Johna  , it means everything responds much faster ...   ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2003 13:27:11 -07001 From: keithparris_NOSPAM@yahoo.com (Keith Parris)r/ Subject: Re: Shadow_max Copy Was: 306GB drives!t= Message-ID: <cf15391e.0308251227.7df7bf3d@posting.google.com>b  d Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com> wrote in message news:<87vfsl8z8f.fsf_-_@prep.synonet.com>...E > Keith, is the number of threads per cluster? IE, if I have a 3 nodetD > cluster, many shadow sets and all node set at the default 4, if on> > node crashes do the other nodes do 4 each, or is it 4 total?  C Yes, the number of threads to worry about is total available in theyF cluster (sum of the values on each of the nodes).  So with the default> value for SHADOW_MAX_COPY of 4, if a node crashes, each of the2 remaining nodes can do 4 shadow threads at a time.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:02:33 +01000( From: "John Travell" <john@jomatech.com> Subject: Re: SYSnR9 Message-ID: <bidivt$86n35$1@ID-120847.news.uni-berlin.de>c  + "Dirk Munk" <munk@home.nl> wrote in message., news:bic83f$8pf$1@news2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl... > Sean O'Banion wrote:E > > SYSF and SYSE are used for Standalone Backup on VAXen, and systemcF > > upgrades, respectively:  using these roots (on VAX or, in my case,H > > Alpha) for anything else causes problems.  I found this out the hardC > > way at HP ETS last year while setting up the Encompass Hands on-H > > Workshops.  As a workaround, I used SYSFF and SYSEE for the 15th andG > > 16th system: I had named the systems including 00 through 12 hex in I > > the name, and intended to have that reflect the root that that system  > > booted from. > >rJ > > Like you are doing, I configured one disk with all the roots I needed,I > > created an image saveset of that disk, did a MOP-based satellite boot,J > > as "diskless" (no Votes) into the Cluster, and restored the saveset toJ > > a local disk on the satellite.  When booting locally, I did not createI > > or join a Cluster.  This allowed each system to be nearly identically F > > configured, and I only needed to install VMS once, but did need toJ > > boot from each root to configure DECnet and TCP/IP before creating the > > saveset. > >uG > > Host-based Shadowing would have worked as well, but would have beenrD > > slower, since each block of the destination disk would have been" > > examined and possibly written. > >fJ > > I think the recommended limit on the number of nodes in one cluster is( > > 96, so that might be a useful limit. > >o > > J > As far as I know the 96 node cluster was tried once and it worked. It is not thee >   architectural limit. >pI I remember a UK customer who had a cluster with about 150 nodes active at G any one time, mostly VAX workstations booting as satellites from one ofiF about a dozen bootnodes. Some users had a habit of shutting down theirI workstation overnight, or when out of the office, so the actual number in  use varied from day to day.cH Very few problems, until they were pushed into migrating to Wintel...:-)     -- John Travell" Independent VMS crashdump analyst. john- at - jomatech - dot - com8 +44-(0)23-92552229 http://www.jomatech.com/       ---a& Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/2003    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2003 14:03:09 -0700+ From: seanobanion@attbi.com (Sean O'Banion)m Subject: Re: SYSns= Message-ID: <f883d5a4.0308251303.7402c38f@posting.google.com>s  > If the most hardest hit files (page and/or swap files, SYSUAF,D RIGHTLIST.DAT, ...) are not on the system disk, and Fibre Channel isE used with, say, a two member host-based shadow set with each member a.C 2 member controller-based mirror set (for a total of four disks) orIF two EVA LUNS, I would expect a fairly high number of systems could use the one "disk".     E Since booting probably places the most IO load, and requires the mosto. critical timing for access on the system disk:  E What's the largest number of Marvel systems that have been booted offn) of one disk like the one described above?      Sean  | Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com> wrote in message news:<01KZVUCQQQQ0AOOLBD@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>...J > > I think the recommended limit on the number of nodes in one cluster is( > > 96, so that might be a useful limit. > I > That's the largest supported number, yes, but presumably the number of  K > system-disk roots coould be less (and, for performance reasons, probably  
 > should be).    ------------------------------    Date: 25 Aug 2003 11:01:41 -0700$ From: benitos@stcc.cc.tx.us (Benito)' Subject: Ups monitor to run on OpenVms.y= Message-ID: <ad6309a1.0308251001.23f058ba@posting.google.com>h  F Does anyone know of a Ups monitoring software that will run on OpenVmsE alpha?  I have Powerware ups that I would like to monitor.  I do have_@ the onlisafe software but it just does not work.  Thanks for any	 feedback.o   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 18:14:33 GMTl" From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG+ Subject: Re: Ups monitor to run on OpenVms. 0 Message-ID: <00A24E9B.B4792C8E@SendSpamHere.ORG>  d In article <ad6309a1.0308251001.23f058ba@posting.google.com>, benitos@stcc.cc.tx.us (Benito) writes:G >Does anyone know of a Ups monitoring software that will run on OpenVmsaF >alpha?  I have Powerware ups that I would like to monitor.  I do haveA >the onlisafe software but it just does not work.  Thanks for anyh
 >feedback.  E If you had an APC UPS, I could help you.  Powerware, AFAIK, have veryhF little "feedback" intelligent for monitoring software to be concerned  with.e   --N VAXman- A bored certified VMS kernel mode hacker!     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM  5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" r   ------------------------------  + Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:31:11 +0000 (UTC) , From: lewis@mazda.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis)+ Subject: Re: Ups monitor to run on OpenVms.p. Message-ID: <bidrmf$a6r$1@newslocal.mitre.org>   benitos@stcc.cc.tx.us (Benito) writes in article <ad6309a1.0308251001.23f058ba@posting.google.com> dated 25 Aug 2003 11:01:41 -0700:G >Does anyone know of a Ups monitoring software that will run on OpenVmspF >alpha?  I have Powerware ups that I would like to monitor.  I do haveA >the onlisafe software but it just does not work.  Thanks for any-
 >feedback.  L We had one once called (I think) Powerchute.  It required a "special" serialI cable, different from the serial cable which came with the Sun or WindowsO versions of the software.t  + --Keith Lewis              klewis$mitre.orgw> The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 00:48:50 GMTe" From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG+ Subject: Re: Ups monitor to run on OpenVms.U0 Message-ID: <00A24ED2.C42A1301@SendSpamHere.ORG>  ] In article <bidrmf$a6r$1@newslocal.mitre.org>, lewis@mazda.mitre.org (Keith A. Lewis) writes:c >benitos@stcc.cc.tx.us (Benito) writes in article <ad6309a1.0308251001.23f058ba@posting.google.com> dated 25 Aug 2003 11:01:41 -0700: H >>Does anyone know of a Ups monitoring software that will run on OpenVmsG >>alpha?  I have Powerware ups that I would like to monitor.  I do have                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^B >>the onlisafe software but it just does not work.  Thanks for any >>feedback.  >OM >We had one once called (I think) Powerchute.  It required a "special" serialO,                                   ^^^^^^^^^^J >cable, different from the serial cable which came with the Sun or Windows >versions of the software. > , >--Keith Lewis              klewis$mitre.org? >The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.   B Powerchute is/was an APC product for the use with APC UPS.  BenitoA specifically states that he has Powerware ups.  Square peg; round  hole.    --N VAXman- A bored certified VMS kernel mode hacker!     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM  5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" e   ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 04:15:56 +0000 (UTC) - From: Adrian Chadd <adrian@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>b5 Subject: UW SCSI for VMS 7.3_1 on an Alphaserver 255?R< Message-ID: <slrnbklnns.t60.adrian@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>   Hi,d  B Apologies for perhaps sounding newbie-ish, that'd be because I'm a# little newbie when it comes to VMS.i  = I have an Alphaserver 255. I've also got a copy of VMS 7.3_1."< I'd like to try and get a VMS install to use an UW SCSI disk or two.0  @ As far as I can tell there haven't been any firmware updates for? this beast in quite a while so I'm guessing there's going to bel4 a few compatibility issues with modern UW PCI cards.  > Would anyone be able to point out a list of supported hardware@ in both the latest SRM firmware for the Alphaserver 255 and what; OpenVMS supports? I don't mind booting off a SCSI-2 disk ifW that'll make things easier.l   Thanks!B       Adrian   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 01:49:07 +0800 , From: Paul Repacholi <prep@prep.synonet.com>8 Subject: Re: volume shadowing with 2 x IDE disks on Ds10- Message-ID: <87ekz98w6k.fsf@prep.synonet.com>o  - young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) writes:r  = > 	Now maybe these IDE drives support SCSI READL/WRITEL?  The A > 	only way I would do shadowing without READL/WRITEL is if theresA > 	was a worthy (or better) substitute for READL/WRITEL (i.e. yout; > 	never get bad blocks, for instance - many months uptime:l  C You should need to add a /OVER=NO_FORCED_ERROR to the shadow mount.   & READL/WRITEL in IDEot drives, ROTFL...   -- n< Paul Repacholi                               1 Crescent Rd.,7 +61 (08) 9257-1001                           Kalamunda.w@                                              West Australia 6076* comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot. Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked.F EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be.   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 22:06:34 GMTu) From: xenman <xenman@sprynet.nospaam.com>e) Subject: Re: XML Parser for VAX (OpenVMS) 8 Message-ID: <mu1lkvcu90hjhe1ru787gj5mjrfc2e3gbc@4ax.com>  2 On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:26:10 GMT, "Craig A. Berry"& <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler> wrote:  9 >In article <mm9ikvknijs0d3pm2m7bv9fd0keggn1ggl@4ax.com>, 3 > Randy Park <rjpark@mindspring.nospaam.com> wrote:S >o5 >> Does anyone know of any XML parsers, callable froms5 >> a VMS application, that are available for both Vax 3 >> and Alpha systems.  I have C and Basic compilerse9 >> currently available.  I have found numerous referencest2 >> to parsers for OpenVMS Alpha using C++ or Java, >> but nothing for Vax.  >-6 >There's a non-validating parser in C called expat at @ ><http://sourceforge.net/projects/expat>.  The Perl XML::Parser E >extension is based on expat.  There's also a validating parser in C o@ >called libxml2 that's part of the Gnome project.  More info at  ><http://www.xmlsoft.org/>.  r >aE >Both of these parsers have been known to work on VMS.  There may be  G >additional porting required for VAX support (or maybe not -- I simply -  >haven't tried to build in VAX).  9 Hey, thanks.  I downloaded the expart parser.  I compiledb: on my Alpha, I wrote a test program (in Basic), threw some* test data into a text file, and it worked.  
 Thanks again."   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.471 ************************