1 INFO-VAX	Tue, 26 Aug 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 472       Contents:F AlphaStation ES47 is out, but will it support multiple screens in VMS?J Re: AlphaStation ES47 is out, but will it support multiple screens in VMS?J Re: AlphaStation ES47 is out, but will it support multiple screens in VMS?P Re: AlphaStation ES47 is out, but will it support multiple screens in VMS? in VMP Re: Another Endangered Account ( was Re: London Transport moving off VMS) off VM/ Re: connect FALCO 5220e to ALPHAstation 255/233  dyndns & VMS Re: dyndns & VMS Re: dyndns & VMS Enabling Proxy Access ( Re: M7940/DHV-11, TU58, and a VAX 11/750( Re: M7940/DHV-11, TU58, and a VAX 11/750( Re: M7940/DHV-11, TU58, and a VAX 11/750( Re: M7940/DHV-11, TU58, and a VAX 11/750. Re: Mount DQB0 gets 'allready allocated' error. Re: Mount DQB0 gets 'allready allocated' error Re: OpenVMS Security) Re: OT: 64 bit desktop computing is here. < Re: Overlapped IO with redirected SYS$OUTPUT for Sub Program# Re: running a news SERVER under VMS 3 Re: The Dell Effect (Was: Re: Will OpenVMS I64 ...) 3 Re: The Dell Effect (Was: Re: Will OpenVMS I64 ...) 3 Re: The Dell Effect (Was: Re: Will OpenVMS I64 ...) 3 Re: The Dell Effect (Was: Re: Will OpenVMS I64 ...) 3 Re: The Dell Effect (Was: Re: Will OpenVMS I64 ...) ( Re: Unicode client as Open VMS terminal.( Re: Unicode client as Open VMS terminal.0 Re: UW SCSI for VMS 7.3_1 on an Alphaserver 255?: VMS for small vendors and small sites?  No thanks, says HP/ Re: volume shadowing with 2 x IDE disks on Ds10   Re: XML Parser for VAX (OpenVMS)  F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:07:18 GMT & From: "Mark Sun" <marksun@genetek.com>O Subject: AlphaStation ES47 is out, but will it support multiple screens in VMS? 9 Message-ID: <W3I2b.14104$_5.319166@news1.telusplanet.net>    Hi All!   ( The AlphaStation ES47 looks really greatL http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/workstations.html but does anyone knowK if it will it eventually support multi-headed graphics?  If not, isn't this A a serious limitation for something marketed as a high-performance  workstation?  C Also, does AGP graphics accelerators significantly improve graphics 2 performance over Oxygen VX1 graphics accelerators?   Thanks in advance!   Mark   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 13:28:13 GMT " From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORGS Subject: Re: AlphaStation ES47 is out, but will it support multiple screens in VMS? 0 Message-ID: <00A24F3C.E0133438@SendSpamHere.ORG>  b In article <W3I2b.14104$_5.319166@news1.telusplanet.net>, "Mark Sun" <marksun@genetek.com> writes: >Hi All! > ) >The AlphaStation ES47 looks really great M >http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/workstations.html but does anyone know L >if it will it eventually support multi-headed graphics?  If not, isn't thisB >a serious limitation for something marketed as a high-performance
 >workstation?  > D >Also, does AGP graphics accelerators significantly improve graphics3 >performance over Oxygen VX1 graphics accelerators?  >  >Thanks in advance!  >  >Mark   - That looks real nice!  Any idea of its price?  --N VAXman- A bored certified VMS kernel mode hacker!     VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM  5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?"     ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:08:15 GMT 9 From: "Fred Kleinsorge" <my-last-name@stardotzko.dec.com> S Subject: Re: AlphaStation ES47 is out, but will it support multiple screens in VMS? 2 Message-ID: <3uM2b.3315$h94.3300@news.cpqcorp.net>  1 "Mark Sun" <marksun@genetek.com> wrote in message 3 news:W3I2b.14104$_5.319166@news1.telusplanet.net... 	 > Hi All!  > * > The AlphaStation ES47 looks really greatI > http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/workstations.html but does anyone  knowH > if it will it eventually support multi-headed graphics?  If not, isn't thisC > a serious limitation for something marketed as a high-performance  > workstation? > E > Also, does AGP graphics accelerators significantly improve graphics 4 > performance over Oxygen VX1 graphics accelerators? >   5 We are currently completing multi-head qualification.   L The 3DLabs Oxygen VX1 was only supported for 2D by VMS - in both AGP and PCII versions.  But the VX1 is going to end-of-life.   The replacement will be I used for both 2D and 3D, and comes in both PCI and AGP versions - the ATI  Radeon 7500.  J We will offer multi-head, with mixed configurations of both AGP and/or PCIC versions.  Both 2D multi-head and 3D multi-head.  We provide direct K rendering of OpenGL 1.2, with support for hardware transformation, lighting 
 and clipping.   K Single headed 2D will work out-of-the box, OpenGL 3D will require an Open3D J license to be installed.  The card comes with a CD with VMS support on it.J Multi-head support will be provided by a network downloadable patch (PCSI)A kit in a few weeks, and will be integrated in the V7.3-2 release.   G We do not recommend buying the Radeon card off-the-shelf, if you have a F problem - we won't be able to help you.  Instead, support our graphicsJ development efforts - and buy the HP part.  Plus, the version we will sellL will be known to have the right firmware revisions, and memory parts that we tested.   F Yes, AGP is visibly/measurably faster on many graphics operations.  InI additional to the ES47, you might also look at the AlphaServer ES45 which F also has an AGP (1 slot) graphics configuration - if you are using theK card(s) for 2D-only, then this system may give you slightly better graphics I performance due to bus tuning differences (PIO vs DMA) and how the non-3D = graphics drawing logic works (that is, your milage may vary).    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 19:39:40 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>Y Subject: Re: AlphaStation ES47 is out, but will it support multiple screens in VMS? in VM 2 Message-ID: <big63d$sk5$1@news2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   Fred Kleinsorge wrote:3 > "Mark Sun" <marksun@genetek.com> wrote in message 5 > news:W3I2b.14104$_5.319166@news1.telusplanet.net...  > 	 >>Hi All!  >>* >>The AlphaStation ES47 looks really greatI >>http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/workstations.html but does anyone  >  > know > H >>if it will it eventually support multi-headed graphics?  If not, isn't >  > this > C >>a serious limitation for something marketed as a high-performance  >>workstation? >>E >>Also, does AGP graphics accelerators significantly improve graphics 4 >>performance over Oxygen VX1 graphics accelerators? >> >  > 7 > We are currently completing multi-head qualification.  > N > The 3DLabs Oxygen VX1 was only supported for 2D by VMS - in both AGP and PCIK > versions.  But the VX1 is going to end-of-life.   The replacement will be K > used for both 2D and 3D, and comes in both PCI and AGP versions - the ATI  > Radeon 7500. > L > We will offer multi-head, with mixed configurations of both AGP and/or PCIE > versions.  Both 2D multi-head and 3D multi-head.  We provide direct M > rendering of OpenGL 1.2, with support for hardware transformation, lighting  > and clipping.  > M > Single headed 2D will work out-of-the box, OpenGL 3D will require an Open3D L > license to be installed.  The card comes with a CD with VMS support on it.L > Multi-head support will be provided by a network downloadable patch (PCSI)C > kit in a few weeks, and will be integrated in the V7.3-2 release.  > I > We do not recommend buying the Radeon card off-the-shelf, if you have a H > problem - we won't be able to help you.  Instead, support our graphicsL > development efforts - and buy the HP part.  Plus, the version we will sellN > will be known to have the right firmware revisions, and memory parts that we	 > tested.   O Oops, it seems that previous discussions on this subject did touch a sensitive  P nerve :-) :-). But don't worry Fred, I don't think anyone who has the big money O to buy a ES47 or ES45 workstation will try to save a couple of hundred dollars   on the graphics card.   O But on a more serious note now. With all respect for the engineering team that  M builds the drivers for the Radeon 7500, it is just a rather low end graphics  N card these days. No self respecting games lover with a PC would buy it today. N ATI has much faster chips & cards that would be much more in line with a very 7 expensive high-end workstation like a Marvel or a ES45.   O It was my impression that the Radeon 7500 was no more then a pleasant and very  P usable graphics card for 'normal' DecWindows applications like Mozilla etc. The P fact that there are PCI and AGP versions no doubt contributed to the choice for N this card as a 'standard' graphics card for Alpha systems. I personally never E thought of it as a high-end card for a serious workstation where the  C capabilities and performance of a graphics card are very important.   Q Now if the VMS drivers would also be generic for all Radeon chips (like with the  L ATI Windows drivers), you could use any ATI card, even the latest very fast 4 ones. I just don't know how difficult this would be.  ' What are your thoughts on this matter ?          > H > Yes, AGP is visibly/measurably faster on many graphics operations.  InK > additional to the ES47, you might also look at the AlphaServer ES45 which H > also has an AGP (1 slot) graphics configuration - if you are using theM > card(s) for 2D-only, then this system may give you slightly better graphics K > performance due to bus tuning differences (PIO vs DMA) and how the non-3D ? > graphics drawing logic works (that is, your milage may vary).  >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:58:58 +0100 O From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> Y Subject: Re: Another Endangered Account ( was Re: London Transport moving off VMS) off VM 0 Message-ID: <bifb12$dgg$2@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   John Smith wrote: > > "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> wrote in message# > news:3F4572AB.56113C3F@fsi.net...  >  >>Tim Llewellyn wrote: >> >>>Fellow VMS users, >>> A >>>I have received information that would suggest that if you are  >>
 > planning to  > A >>>visit London then you might consider sooner rather than later.  >>> D >>>London Transport are currently recruiting VMS ops (for peanuts, I >> > would make > B >>>a net loss if I relocated for these positions, shift work too). >> > However, I did > 8 >>>hear that they are already planning the move off VMS. >>>  >>>You have been warned. >> >>Sue? >  >  >  > David, > D > Sh*t like this wouldn't be happening at many soon-to-be former VMSA > accounts if HP took marketing and advertising of VMS seriously.  > F > Marketing and advertising consists of getting your value propositionD > in front of the complete decision-making chain - from the Board ofD > Directors, the head of application development, the chief securityD > officer, the CTO, the head of computer operations (ie. data centerH > management), the application architects, and finally the grunts in the/ > field who actually do the coding and testing.  > F > HP does none of this for VMS with any conviction or elan, or at all. > D > HP seems to think that advertising $59 inkjet cartridges will helpE > companies make data center and disaster tolerence decisions go HP's  > way.  > It won't but then HP lose money on all their disaster tolerent= platforms so you cannot fault the HP marketing folks who have ; realised that toner is what keeps the lights on and the car  parks full.    Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:40:37 +0100 * From: "Richard Brodie" <R.Brodie@rl.ac.uk>8 Subject: Re: connect FALCO 5220e to ALPHAstation 255/233+ Message-ID: <bif6e7$l7m@newton.cc.rl.ac.uk>   ] "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de> wrote in message  news:bi8utb$2f1$1@online.de...  G > Several years ago, I used to have a FALCO 5220e terminal connected to J > the serial port (OPA0 or TTA0) of an ALPHAstation 255/233.  Now, I can't > get it to work.   H I used to use these a while back. They did seem to often XOFF themselves2 spontaneously on power up. Try giving it a CTRL/Q.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:32:38 +0200 * From: "Luca_B" <balzano@NOiolUPPERCASE.it> Subject: dyndns & VMS ' Message-ID: <bifuir$vuo$1@half.spin.it>   I I need to put a VMS ftp server on the net using NAT and a DSL router, the  router has a dynamic IP address   L I plan to use dyndns.org to get my URL linked to the dynamic IP but as far I. can see there are no VMS update clients around  
 any ideas?   L.   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:54:37 +0100 ( From: "John Travell" <john@jomatech.com> Subject: Re: dyndns & VMS 9 Message-ID: <bifvs3$932fv$1@ID-120847.news.uni-berlin.de>   5 "Luca_B" <balzano@NOiolUPPERCASE.it> wrote in message ! news:bifuir$vuo$1@half.spin.it... K > I need to put a VMS ftp server on the net using NAT and a DSL router, the ! > router has a dynamic IP address  > L > I plan to use dyndns.org to get my URL linked to the dynamic IP but as far I 0 > can see there are no VMS update clients around >  > any ideas?  H Roll your own ? it should be possible to do it in DCL or any programming	 language. J How hard this is depends on what router you use. does it use SNMP or not ?B If not it probably has an integrated web-server with a status page" containing the current IP address.> I have never used SNMP so I don't know how hard that is to do.  7 As an alternative to dyndns you might consider zoneedit  (http://www.zoneedit.com).G I have had no problems with them at all since setting up my redirect in  April.     -- John Travell" Independent VMS crashdump analyst. john- at - jomatech - dot - com  +44-(0)23-92552229 http://www.jomatech.com/       --- & Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.: Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).A Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/2003    ------------------------------  + Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:54:27 +0200 (MET) 9 From: Phillip Helbig <HELBPHI@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>  Subject: Re: dyndns & VMS ; Message-ID: <01KZXCI8UL5UAMSOR1@sysdev.deutsche-boerse.com>   G > I need to put a VMS ftp server on the net using NAT and a DSL router, & > the router has a dynamic IP address  > H > I plan to use dyndns.org to get my URL linked to the dynamic IP but as7 > far I can see there are no VMS update clients around   > 
 > any ideas?    8 I wrote my own in DCL.  It uses the browser LYNX.  I use      $  LYNX -dump  F both for querying the router to see if the IP address has changed, andC also to do the update itself.  I also use this for another service, A http://www.dynaccess.de/ (similar to http://www.dyndns.org/, but  F offering a few more features for slightly more money, website only in ) German) so I suppose it is fairly robust.   H When I have time, I'll clean up the code and make it publicly available. I've been using it for months.  H Experiment with LYNX -dump until you get the commands correct and write C your own!  I query the router once a minute or so to see if the IP  - address has changed and if so I do an update.   H At dyndns.org they have a flowchart to be followed for clients!  Try to  follow it in your code.   F I run things in a batch job.  I actually have another batch job which E watches the main batch job so that the latter gets resubmitted if it  F dies.  Sometimes network problems etc can cause the main batch job to E hang.  I've found it's easier if it dies and gets resubmitted rather  > than try to take appropriate action based on the error status.  F I think Michael Austin has a procedure which uses PERL, but of course H you'll have to install PERL.  (The same as true of LYNX, but I had that > installed anyway, whereas I haven't yet felt a need for PERL.)   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:48:45 +0100 % From: David Gray <police@spamcop.net>  Subject: Enabling Proxy Access8 Message-ID: <rb3nkvkungjrabobj8077egntt1n8qajmk@4ax.com>   Greetings all,    ? Just in the process of setting up a new DS20e Alpha to act as a  disaster recovery machine.      > The live server is an ES45 running DECnet-plus and I have justE replaced the pre-installed Decnet-IV with plus on the DS20.   Proxies > have been created on both servers, but am still unable to do a* directory of either node from the other.    	 Example:     Live server (TOM)    UAF> show/prox spike::grayd    %  Default proxies are flagged with (D)     SPIKE::GRAYD
     GRAYD (D)      DR Server (Spike)    UAF> show /prox tom::grayd   %  Default proxies are flagged with (D)    
 TOM::GRAYD
     GRAYD (D)      SPIKE] dir tom::3 %DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening TOM::*.*;* as input / -RMS-E-FND, ACP file or directory lookup failed , -SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHNODE, remote node is unknown   TOM] dir spike::5 %DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening SPIKE::*.*;* as input / -RMS-E-FND, ACP file or directory lookup failed , -SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHNODE, remote node is unknown  4 So how do I let the servers know about each other?    A The NCP command SHOW KNOWN NODES show that each server only knows  about itself.      Thanks in advance,     	Dave.     ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:32:22 +0200 + From: "Hans Vlems" <hvlems.nieuw@zonnet.nl> 1 Subject: Re: M7940/DHV-11, TU58, and a VAX 11/750 9 Message-ID: <bif2ea$8mnme$1@ID-143435.news.uni-berlin.de>   > "Chris Scheers" <chris@applied-synergy.com> schreef in bericht- news:3F4AB2E5.DCCCE3E1@applied-synergy.com...  > Hans Vlems wrote:  > > - > > <misc@vectorgames.org> schreef in bericht + > > news:bianvs$tvd@library2.airnews.net...  > > > L > > An RL02 is not big enough to hold VMS. If you have an 11/780, how do you > > boot VMS on that system?H > > The reason I ask is this: should you have an RA class drive then you could H > > dual home that drive and connect the UDA-50 of the 11/750 to the "B" port. L > > Assuming you do have a UDA-50 in the 750, right? AFAIK there's no way to  > > boot an 11/750 across a LAN. > J > Actually, running VMS from an RL02 is possible.  It was supported in theC > VMS 4.x time frame.  The installation could tailor VMS across two H > drives, usually a pair of RL02s or an RL02 and an R80. Most often on a
 > VAX 730) > I > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- & > Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc. > D > Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com >   Fax: 817-237-3074   L Chris, I remember VMS 3.4 and that it was small enough to fit comfortably onK an RA80 (121 MB, remember :-). In fact with a little patience you can still L fit VMS 7.3 on an RZ22. But on two RL02's, at 10 MB each, that surprises me.J RL0'2 were used on 86x0's as console device, there was no VMS on them. TheK 730 used a peculiar drive with one spindle and two volumes, the top one was 8 removable. That was bootable but definitely not an RL02.$ But I'm willing to get corrected :-)   Hans   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:01:53 +0200   From: Okrad Talub <okrad@k2.net>1 Subject: Re: M7940/DHV-11, TU58, and a VAX 11/750 & Message-ID: <biet5l$lta$1@fuji.k2.net>   John Gemignani, Jr. wrote:* > "msell" <msell@pdq.net> wrote in message) > news:bi9anp$qc1@library2.airnews.net...  >  >>Hello everyone,  >> >>H >>I was wondering if anyone on this newsgroup has a suggestion on how to/ >>connect a dual-TU58 tape drive to a QBus VAX?  >>H >>I found a document describing how to configure an M7940 (which I have)I >>for operation with a TU58, and my QBus VAX (MicroVAX II) recognizes the D >>drives (the interface, actually) - so the card at least appears to >>partially operate. >>E >>However - when I try to "mount" a tape, there is no activity on the I >>interface (M7940) as tested with a logic probe. This board came from an H >>LSI-11/03 in a VAX 11/780, and I believe this board to be operational.J >>The point of using the logic probe is to make a cable to attach the dual >>TU58 to the M7940. >>C >>The goal is to create a set of boot tapes for my 11/750. I have a I >>working VAXCluster with 4000's, and two MicroVAXes, and I'd like to get  >>this 11/750 booting. >>> >>Has anyone here been successful in using a M7940 with TU58s? >>( >>Am I barking up the wrong tree?    : ) >> >>Thanks for the insight!  >> >> >>- Matt >> >  > J > If it's from an 11/03 then is it possible that it's limited to an 18-bit > address space?N > You may need to do up a special driver to copy data within the 22-bit (QBUS) > space N > into an 18-bit space for the operation to work.  The device probably doesn't > doN > scatter/gather, so that would mandate that you pull all of the data together > manually.  > K > I'm trying to remember what the device was that had this issue years ago.  > Was itH > the TK50 or its predecessor?  It was a tape driver from what I recall.  G According to EK-0TU58-UG-003 TU58 was 256 KB tape system that used tape D tape cartridges similar in size and shape of later QIC40 units (only TU58 is a bit narrower).  D What is important is the fact that the unit itself communicated with@ the host as either RS-232 or RS-423 unit, with jumper-selectableD rates from 150 up to 38.4kbps. In 11/750 (as in 11/730 which I have)$ I believe the setting was 38.4 Kbps.  = I can help with either manuals for TU58 and 11/750 (Software  ? Installation Guide: AA-K410B-TE, goes for VAX/VMS Version 3.1).   > In later manual there's thorough description of booting 11/750% using stand-alone BOOT58 (>>>B DDA0).    Regards! Darko    > -John  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:59:20 +0200   From: Okrad Talub <okrad@k2.net>1 Subject: Re: M7940/DHV-11, TU58, and a VAX 11/750 & Message-ID: <bif0hl$p0b$1@fuji.k2.net>   Hans Vlems wrote: @ > "Chris Scheers" <chris@applied-synergy.com> schreef in bericht/ > news:3F4AB2E5.DCCCE3E1@applied-synergy.com...  >  >>Hans Vlems wrote:  >>, >>><misc@vectorgames.org> schreef in bericht* >>>news:bianvs$tvd@library2.airnews.net... >>> K >>>An RL02 is not big enough to hold VMS. If you have an 11/780, how do you  >>>boot VMS on that system? G >>>The reason I ask is this: should you have an RA class drive then you  >  > could  > G >>>dual home that drive and connect the UDA-50 of the 11/750 to the "B"  >  > port.  > K >>>Assuming you do have a UDA-50 in the 750, right? AFAIK there's no way to  >>>boot an 11/750 across a LAN.  >>J >>Actually, running VMS from an RL02 is possible.  It was supported in theC >>VMS 4.x time frame.  The installation could tailor VMS across two H >>drives, usually a pair of RL02s or an RL02 and an R80. Most often on a
 >>VAX 730) >>I >>----------------------------------------------------------------------- & >>Chris Scheers, Applied Synergy, Inc. >>D >>Voice: 817-237-3360            Internet: chris@applied-synergy.com >>  Fax: 817-237-3074  >  > N > Chris, I remember VMS 3.4 and that it was small enough to fit comfortably onM > an RA80 (121 MB, remember :-). In fact with a little patience you can still N > fit VMS 7.3 on an RZ22. But on two RL02's, at 10 MB each, that surprises me.L > RL0'2 were used on 86x0's as console device, there was no VMS on them. TheM > 730 used a peculiar drive with one spindle and two volumes, the top one was : > removable. That was bootable but definitely not an RL02.  ? 11/730's original top unit was RL02, according to all available 4 documentation I own on 11/730 and the 11/730 itself.  , 11/730's bottom drive was R80 (cca. 120 MB).   Both units were bootable.   = There were 11/730 configurations with two RL02 units as well.    Regards! Darko   & > But I'm willing to get corrected :-) >  > Hans >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:04:57 +0200   From: Okrad Talub <okrad@k2.net>1 Subject: Re: M7940/DHV-11, TU58, and a VAX 11/750 & Message-ID: <bif0s5$p0b$2@fuji.k2.net>   John Gemignani, Jr. wrote:  * > "msell" <msell@pdq.net> wrote in message) > news:bi9anp$qc1@library2.airnews.net...  >  >>Hello everyone,  >> >>H >>I was wondering if anyone on this newsgroup has a suggestion on how to/ >>connect a dual-TU58 tape drive to a QBus VAX?  >>H >>I found a document describing how to configure an M7940 (which I have)I >>for operation with a TU58, and my QBus VAX (MicroVAX II) recognizes the D >>drives (the interface, actually) - so the card at least appears to >>partially operate. >>E >>However - when I try to "mount" a tape, there is no activity on the I >>interface (M7940) as tested with a logic probe. This board came from an H >>LSI-11/03 in a VAX 11/780, and I believe this board to be operational.J >>The point of using the logic probe is to make a cable to attach the dual >>TU58 to the M7940. >>C >>The goal is to create a set of boot tapes for my 11/750. I have a I >>working VAXCluster with 4000's, and two MicroVAXes, and I'd like to get  >>this 11/750 booting. >>> >>Has anyone here been successful in using a M7940 with TU58s? >>( >>Am I barking up the wrong tree?    : ) >> >>Thanks for the insight!  >> >> >>- Matt >> >  > J > If it's from an 11/03 then is it possible that it's limited to an 18-bit > address space?N > You may need to do up a special driver to copy data within the 22-bit (QBUS) > space N > into an 18-bit space for the operation to work.  The device probably doesn't > doN > scatter/gather, so that would mandate that you pull all of the data together > manually.  > K > I'm trying to remember what the device was that had this issue years ago.  > Was itH > the TK50 or its predecessor?  It was a tape driver from what I recall.  % And here's ebay entry on blank tapes:   K http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2749257421&category=1247    Regards! Darko    > -John  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 12:33:02 +0200 $ From: Michael Unger <unger@decus.de>7 Subject: Re: Mount DQB0 gets 'allready allocated' error 9 Message-ID: <bifi0j$8sfjh$1@ID-152801.news.uni-berlin.de>   , On 26-Aug-2003 07:51, David B Sneddon wrote:  
 > Not true...  >  > $ show dev/fu cdrom  > Q > Disk $255$DQB0: (TARDIS), device type TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6202B, is online, file- R >      oriented device, shareable, available to cluster, error logging is enabled. > R >      Error count                    0    Operations completed             109641R >      Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC                      [SYSTEM]R >      Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot            S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G:R,WR >      Reference count                0    Default buffer size                 512R >      Total blocks            16515072    Sectors per track                    63R >      Total cylinders            16384    Tracks per cylinder                  16' >      Allocation class             255  > F > Reference count is zero.  No CD-ROM in the drive but I still see theH > "Total blocks" info.  Alpha XP1000 VMS 7.3-1 with all the latest ECOs.E > A non-zero reference count does not mean it is mounted, simply that , > there is a channel assigned to the device.  @ A block count of 16,515,072 would be about 7.9 GB (*Giga*bytes),< assuming a block size of 512 bytes. A really huge CD-ROM ...   Michael    --  ; Real names enhance the probability of getting real answers. @ Please do *not* send "Security Patch Notifications" or "SecurityA Updates"; this system isn't running a Micro$oft operating system. = And don't annoy me <mailto:postmaster@[127.0.0.1]> please ;-)    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 22:25:48 +0800 - From: David B Sneddon <dbsneddon@bigpond.com> 7 Subject: Re: Mount DQB0 gets 'allready allocated' error * Message-ID: <3F4B6DEC.4010908@bigpond.com>   Michael Unger wrote:. > On 26-Aug-2003 07:51, David B Sneddon wrote: >  > 
 >>Not true...  >> >>$ show dev/fu cdrom  >>Q >>Disk $255$DQB0: (TARDIS), device type TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-6202B, is online, file- R >>     oriented device, shareable, available to cluster, error logging is enabled. >>R >>     Error count                    0    Operations completed             109641R >>     Owner process                 ""    Owner UIC                      [SYSTEM]R >>     Owner process ID        00000000    Dev Prot            S:RWPL,O:RWPL,G:R,WR >>     Reference count                0    Default buffer size                 512R >>     Total blocks            16515072    Sectors per track                    63R >>     Total cylinders            16384    Tracks per cylinder                  16' >>     Allocation class             255  >>F >>Reference count is zero.  No CD-ROM in the drive but I still see theH >>"Total blocks" info.  Alpha XP1000 VMS 7.3-1 with all the latest ECOs.E >>A non-zero reference count does not mean it is mounted, simply that , >>there is a channel assigned to the device. >  > B > A block count of 16,515,072 would be about 7.9 GB (*Giga*bytes),> > assuming a block size of 512 bytes. A really huge CD-ROM ... > 	 > Michael  >   6 You will note that the machine is called TARDIS... ;-)   Regards, Dave.  --  I David B Sneddon (dbs)  OpenVMS Systems Programmer   dbsneddon@bigpond.com I Sneddo's quick guide ...          http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/ I DBS freeware at ...   http://www.users.bigpond.com/dbsneddon/software.htm I "Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans" Lennon    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:48:15 +0100 O From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com>  Subject: Re: OpenVMS Security 0 Message-ID: <big30g$m7j$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   John E. Malmberg wrote:  > Bob Ceculski wrote:  > F >> one more great place to get a really good idea is the cert site ... >>A >> OpenVMS the last time I checked had 31 certs in 13 years while  >  > <snip>G > Those certs in the search statistics also include were the operating  G > system was listed as "Not  Vulnerable", and some of them are summary  / > lists, which duplicate all previous listings.  > J > So a search for any platform will reveal more certs than there actually  > are. > C > You have to look at each cert document and manually weed out the  2 > duplicates and summaries to get the true totals. > > > Statistics are useful, but raw data is sometimes misleading.  ; Or simply incorrect in the case of OpenVMS where CERTs that = OpenVMS was vunerable to were incorrectly responded to or not  responded to at.     Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:11:08 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl>2 Subject: Re: OT: 64 bit desktop computing is here.2 Message-ID: <bietob$nao$1@news2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   >  > M > And another comparison at http://www.theandyzone.com/Computer/shootout.html  > . > I think the author's concluding paragraph atN > http://www.theandyzone.com/Computer/shootout4.html should not be overlooked: > C > "It's nice to see that Apple is at least being competitive from a E > speed standpoint, but it's also easy to lose perspective about what H > Macs are all about when looking at speed races. For me, Macs are about+ > elegance and ease of use more than speed.   M For home use, sure. But please remember that macs are also often in use in a  P professional surrounding, where they are used for photo editing, video editing, @ sound editing etc. And there the speed will be more then welcome     Getting something doneE > quickly is part of overall productivity, but even more important is C > how well it works, how easy it is to use, and how much one enjoys E > using it. I switched over from Windows because I felt I gained more E > than I lost. I have to admit, though, that if I got the speed back, 3 > the rewards of switching would be doubly-sweet!"   > H > Horses for courses, and of course, no Blaster or SoBig to contend with > :-)    ------------------------------    Date: 26 Aug 2003 11:19:19 -0500 From: briggs@encompasserve.orgE Subject: Re: Overlapped IO with redirected SYS$OUTPUT for Sub Program 3 Message-ID: <HQJfzK+ovF9q@eisner.encompasserve.org>   g In article <nA31b.7$wX5.3282@news.uswest.net>, "Michael D. Ober" <obermd-@-alum-mit-edu-nospam> writes: J > Does your description below mean that the sub programs could continue toJ > write to SYS$OUTPUT via the PRINT statement in BASIC?  I have no problemN > rewriting the calling program - it's a single piece of code.  However, thereE > are a couple of hundred subprograms that would need to be modified.V  @ Yes, certainly.  A BASIC PRINT statement should not care whetherC SYS$OUTPUT points to a file on disk, to a terminal or to a mailbox. D (Or, for that matter, to a network link, tape drive, spooled printer or null device).    It's an RMS write in every case.  G The only possible gotcha is that mailbox I/O is synchronous by default.u> That means that the PRINT statement will stall waiting for theA parent process to read from the mailbox.  The parent read and the2* subprocess then complete at the same time.  A As long as your parent reads from the mailbox in a timely manner,/' this issue is of no particular concern./    C Writing output to disk file and having the parent use shared access C to the same file in order to access the concurrent record stream isd9 a prescription for failure.  Mailboxes are the way to go.'   	John Briggs   ------------------------------   Date: 26 Aug 2003 12:25:58 GMT, From: bill@gw5.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon), Subject: Re: running a news SERVER under VMS9 Message-ID: <bifjkm$9066d$1@ID-135708.news.uni-berlin.de>   ' In article <3f43a785$1@cpns1.saic.com>, 3 	Mark Berryman <Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com> writes:  > Bill Gunshannon wrote:( >> In article <3f42398f@cpns1.saic.com>,6 >> 	Mark Berryman <Mark.Berryman@Mvb.Saic.Com> writes: >> a >>>Phillip Helbig wrote: >>>dF >>>>>and the full news feed I take currently consumes 8-10 GB of disk 
 >>>>>space.  o >>>> >>>>9 >>>>How many groups?  How long are the articles retained?i >>>t8 >>>Roughly 44,000.  Retention seems to be about 3 weeks. >> - >> -D >> I hope you don't think that is anywhere near a full feed.  When IE >> had to shut down my server at the University (over a year ago) our>" >> count was already over 346,000. > I > Either your memory is off or you had a TON of private groups (or maybe 1) > you never cleaned up expired groups).  h  > Didn't have to rely on my (often flawed) memory.  I just typed? "wc .newsrc" on a machine where I used to read news and it gave  me the answer.  F >                                       I have a full feed but do not J > accept (or count) the various binary groups.  Going to several publicly J > available news servers I am aware of I see anywhere from 12000 to 66000 K > groups depending on whether or not the server takes the alt.* groups and - > which regional groups it has.   D I carried everything.  Including all the regionals that people wouldF deliver to me. Why, you ask?  Because as a University we have studentsE from pretty much everywhere and the foreign language ones are a great0G educational tool for students of those languages.  And, we were talkinge about a "a full feed".  :-)t   > F >>>>What is the minimum network bandwidth one needs (assuming you are % >>>>carrying practically all groups)?t >>> H >>>At the moment, I am using about 60 KB/sec to receive news.  I do not O >>>know how much that fluctuates as I have never had call to measure it before.A >> d >> GF >> I had a satellite feed for the majority of my incoming news and theF >> networking people here still complained constantly about the amount* >> of bandwidth I was using on a 10M link. > J > Unless you had a satellite feed that differs greatly from the ones I am H > familiar with you would have been lucky to comsume .5Mb of bandwidth, , > much less a significant portion of 10Mb.    F I didn't say I consumed a lot of bandwidth, I only said our networkingE people used to complain. (You should see some of the graphs they usedm to generate.  :-)V  F >                                          I only saw bursts get that G > high if you were limited to taking the feed at night.  Accepting the l< > feed at all hours of the day requires much less bandwidth.  C The big problem came when the satellite feed would die for a couplem? of hours for problems or planned maintenance (a very infrequenti7 occurance.)  Then the usage would climb astronomically.a  A Considering how the actual value has dropped, the cost of running B News today is hard to justify.  I (and i am sure many others) miss USENET.e   bill   -- OJ Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolvesD bill@cs.scranton.edu     |  and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. University of Scranton   |A Scranton, Pennsylvania   |         #include <std.disclaimer.h>       ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 10:55:01 +0100 O From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com>b< Subject: Re: The Dell Effect (Was: Re: Will OpenVMS I64 ...)0 Message-ID: <bifapm$dgg$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Rob Young wrote: > In article <bi5ieu$6ni$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> writes: >  >>Rob Young wrote: >  > F >>>	Dell is quite unique.  Imagine if a car manufacturer kept loweringD >>>	prices as they wrenched effiecncies out of their suppliers?  BadG >>>	analogy?  Alright.  But Dell gets sweetheart Intel prices, dictatestG >>>	to their suppliers, etc.  Itanium?  Deltel will make it fly, right?t >>>p >>; >>Dell isn't unique,  many retailers operate on the sort ofu >>margins that Dell does.e >> >  > 	 E > 	Implied:   "within the computer industry."  To suggest that no oner@ > 	else anywhere in the world runs their business similar to the' > 	way Dell does, wouldn't be accurate.t > 	 > 				Rob  >    You missed the point.e  3 The top 4 server vendors are IBM, HP, Sun and Dell.f  2 However IBM, HP and Sun are manufacturers and Dell/ isn't its a very efficient channel to market ora4 distribution company. There are other companies that0 are efficient channels to market in the computer4 industry (and nothing else) but Dell is the only one/ that appears in the top 4 or 5 systems vendors.1   Packard Bell are an example.  4 The only thing thats really unique about Dell is its size and its global coverage.e   regards  Andrew HarrisonD   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Aug 2003 07:41:28 -0500+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young)s< Subject: Re: The Dell Effect (Was: Re: Will OpenVMS I64 ...)3 Message-ID: <eDuA3FYRYJ3x@eisner.encompasserve.org>l   In article <bifapm$dgg$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> writes: > Rob Young wrote: >> In article <bi5ieu$6ni$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> writes:  >> A >>>Rob Young wrote:o >> g >> aG >>>>	Dell is quite unique.  Imagine if a car manufacturer kept loweringrE >>>>	prices as they wrenched effiecncies out of their suppliers?  Bad H >>>>	analogy?  Alright.  But Dell gets sweetheart Intel prices, dictatesH >>>>	to their suppliers, etc.  Itanium?  Deltel will make it fly, right? >>>> >>>b< >>>Dell isn't unique,  many retailers operate on the sort of >>>margins that Dell does. >>>. >>   >> 	F >> 	Implied:   "within the computer industry."  To suggest that no oneA >> 	else anywhere in the world runs their business similar to thec( >> 	way Dell does, wouldn't be accurate. >>  
 >> 				Rob >> m >  > You missed the point.i > 5 > The top 4 server vendors are IBM, HP, Sun and Dell.G > 4 > However IBM, HP and Sun are manufacturers and Dell1 > isn't its a very efficient channel to market or 6 > distribution company. There are other companies that2 > are efficient channels to market in the computer6 > industry (and nothing else) but Dell is the only one1 > that appears in the top 4 or 5 systems vendors.u >  > Packard Bell are an example. >   * 	You really are a nitpicking troublemaker:   ----  c http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=2J9Yee12TpNB%40eisner.encompasserve.org&oe=UTF-8&output=gplaini  = 	You know what... I've been at this long enough.  I know sometE 	nitpicker is going to point out another within the computer industry > 	that has a business model similar to Dell.  To further refine@ 	and take the wind out of the nitpickers that would love to hang? 	out at a nitpicking festival - here is a qualifier that should  	have been in the original:i  A 	"Among the top 5 in computer sales [here - nitpick that] Dell isr( 	rather unique in their business model."   	Random enough - pick on that.   ----  E 	I suspected that some nitpicker would rattle the Packard Bell chain. = 	The local grocery store chain has higher annual revenue thane 	Packard Bell.   					Rob   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:44:20 +0100oO From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com>p< Subject: Re: The Dell Effect (Was: Re: Will OpenVMS I64 ...)0 Message-ID: <big2p4$m4v$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Rob Young wrote: > In article <bifapm$dgg$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> writes: >  >>Rob Young wrote: >> >>>In article <bi5ieu$6ni$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> writes:i >>>  >>>r >>>>Rob Young wrote: >>>a >>>vH >>>>>	Dell is quite unique.  Imagine if a car manufacturer kept loweringF >>>>>	prices as they wrenched effiecncies out of their suppliers?  BadI >>>>>	analogy?  Alright.  But Dell gets sweetheart Intel prices, dictateslI >>>>>	to their suppliers, etc.  Itanium?  Deltel will make it fly, right?s >>>>>  >>>>= >>>>Dell isn't unique,  many retailers operate on the sort of  >>>>margins that Dell does.  >>>> >>>i >>>	F >>>	Implied:   "within the computer industry."  To suggest that no oneA >>>	else anywhere in the world runs their business similar to theu( >>>	way Dell does, wouldn't be accurate. >>>-
 >>>				Rob >>>- >> >>You missed the point.: >>5 >>The top 4 server vendors are IBM, HP, Sun and Dell.e >>4 >>However IBM, HP and Sun are manufacturers and Dell1 >>isn't its a very efficient channel to market or 6 >>distribution company. There are other companies that2 >>are efficient channels to market in the computer6 >>industry (and nothing else) but Dell is the only one1 >>that appears in the top 4 or 5 systems vendors.t >> >>Packard Bell are an example. >> >  > , > 	You really are a nitpicking troublemaker: >  > ---- > e > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=2J9Yee12TpNB%40eisner.encompasserve.org&oe=UTF-8&output=gplainr > ? > 	You know what... I've been at this long enough.  I know some G > 	nitpicker is going to point out another within the computer industryo@ > 	that has a business model similar to Dell.  To further refineB > 	and take the wind out of the nitpickers that would love to hangA > 	out at a nitpicking festival - here is a qualifier that shoulda > 	have been in the original:o > C > 	"Among the top 5 in computer sales [here - nitpick that] Dell ist* > 	rather unique in their business model." >   > 	Random enough - pick on that. >  > ---- > G > 	I suspected that some nitpicker would rattle the Packard Bell chain.d? > 	The local grocery store chain has higher annual revenue thano > 	Packard Bell. > G All you have done is illustrate what everyone knows, if you narrow the g2 field enough then you can prove anything you want.   And this isn't nitpicking.   regardsr Andrew Harrisonv   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:59:09 +0100kO From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com>i< Subject: Re: The Dell Effect (Was: Re: Will OpenVMS I64 ...)0 Message-ID: <big3ku$mc9$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Charlie Hammond wrote:* > In article <3F4641CF.5020806@MMaz.com>, / > "Barry Treahy, Jr." <Treahy@MMaz.com> writes:  >  > G >>If I had a choice of running VMS on a Dell or a HP, I wouldn't think   >>twice, Dell! >  > E > Barry, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think your statement contains2F > the implicit assumption that the total cost of ownership for runningG > OpenVMS I64 on Dell hardware would be less than for running it on HP.v >  > That may or may not be true. >   A I though that the whole idea behind "Industry Standard Computing" F your employers tagline for itanium was that it was "Industry Standard" or did we all miss something.e  E If the tagline was true then it shouldn't matter what platform vendorn? you get the itanium server (right hardware price, right quality/B right hardware services) for OpenVMS or any of the other OS's that will run on Itanium.  ! Just like it is now with the x86.j  C Or are you suggesting that there is something special about OpenVMSt@ which makes it unlike all the other OS's targeted for itanium in respect to TCO ?   Regardsr Andrew Harrison H > The cost of Dell harwware qualified to run OpenVMS may be more or lessK > than the cost of similar HP hardware.  Similarly, the cost of maintaining-9 > the system (hardware and software) may be more or less.  > L > My personal guess -- NOT necessarily reflecting HP or OpenVMS engineering J > thinking -- is that Dell hardware *MAY* at some future time be a viable M > alternative for *SOME* systems running OpenVMS, while others may be better u > run on HP. > 0 > It will be interestiong to see what developes. >    ------------------------------    Date: 26 Aug 2003 12:28:55 -0500+ From: young_r@encompasserve.org (Rob Young) < Subject: Re: The Dell Effect (Was: Re: Will OpenVMS I64 ...)3 Message-ID: <dgunMi5SSfUL@eisner.encompasserve.org>i   In article <big2p4$m4v$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> writes: > Rob Young wrote:     >> iH >> 	I suspected that some nitpicker would rattle the Packard Bell chain.@ >> 	The local grocery store chain has higher annual revenue than >> 	Packard Bell.o >> rI > All you have done is illustrate what everyone knows, if you narrow the  4 > field enough then you can prove anything you want.  6 	Nonsense.  Things can be wrong even in a narrow view.   >  > And this isn't nitpicking. >   7 	Sure it is.  Re-read what you wrote.  Packard Bell as s> 	your counter-example, and I anticipated that in my follow-up.   				Robt   ------------------------------   Date: 26 Aug 03 08:02:25 +0200) From: p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) 1 Subject: Re: Unicode client as Open VMS terminal. ) Message-ID: <534bk5MNiw2V@elias.decus.ch>r  s In article <aus-08675B.15173825082003@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>, "Hans M. Aus" <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> writes:  > Paul,e > 6 > Please explain how you got your accented characters. >   @ Hans copied this via email, I couldn't find it here at the time, so I answered offline.  G FWIW, I did discover that telnet from MacOS Terminal does _not_ produce G accented characters, although ssh does. I pointed Hans at the SSH early ( adopter's kit on www.openvms.compaq.com.  D > From the MacOS Terminal, when I try ssh -l aus nnn.xxx.yyy.1, the  > response is: > D > ssh: connect to address nnn.xxx.yyy.1 port 22: Connection refused. >  > H > A port scan on the VMS 7.2-1 Alpha reveals that port 22 is not active: >  >  Port   Type   Description >  10     TCP    10  >  21     TCP    ftp >  23     TCP    telnetd >  25     TCP    smtpa >  111    TCP    sunrpcf >  118    TCP    118 >  > , > The TCPIP Server configuration looks like: > K >   Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Server Components Configuration Menu  >  >   Configuration options: > K >     1 - BIND         Disabled Stopped      11 - NTP      Disabled Stopped K >     2 - BOOTP        Disabled Stopped      12 - PC-NFS   Disabled StoppedyK >     3 - DHCP         Disabled Stopped      13 - POP      Disabled Stopped K >     4 - FINGER       Disabled Stopped      14 - PORTMAPPER Enabled Starte K >     5 - FTP          Enabled  Started      15 - RLOGIN   Enabled  StartedtK >     6 - LBROKER      Disabled Stopped      16 - RMT      Disabled Stopped K >     7 - LPR/LPD      Disabled Stopped      17 - SNMP     Disabled Stopped'K >     8 - METRIC       Disabled Stopped      18 - TELNET   Enabled  StartedeK >     9 - NFS          Enabled  Started      19 - TFTP     Disabled Stopped-K >    10 - LOCKD/STATD  Disabled Stopped      20 - XDM      Disabled Stoppede >  >  > + > In article <P87ZeBF8kIMg@elias.decus.ch>,D- >  p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) wrote:  >  >>... K >> Bingo. After quite a bit of messing around in Terminal, visiting the MaciI >> Help Center, you suggestion prompted me to abandoned it in favour of al >> VMS solution :-)e >> dE >> The following got me there for VMS (although not in Terminal - I'de5 >> like this to work at the Mac command prompt too*).  >> tJ >> Login to VMS (with ssh, I have telnet disabled, so haven't tested that) >> s& >> $ set terminal/device=vt300/eighbit >> a/ >> and I get my accented characters :-) :-) :-)  >>  K >> * my mistake all along had been to try getting _Terminal_ to display thee" >> accented characters on its own. >> R >> VMS wins again :-)r >  > -- RD > Cheers, Hans M. Aus, Wuerzburg, Germany,  aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:51:19 +0200 & From: Bob Marcan <bob.marcan@aster.si>1 Subject: Re: Unicode client as Open VMS terminal. 1 Message-ID: <QAJ2b.1654$2B6.368893@news.siol.net>O   Hans M. Aus wrote: > Paul,o > 6 > Please explain how you got your accented characters. > D > From the MacOS Terminal, when I try ssh -l aus nnn.xxx.yyy.1, the  > response is: > D > ssh: connect to address nnn.xxx.yyy.1 port 22: Connection refused. >  > H > A port scan on the VMS 7.2-1 Alpha reveals that port 22 is not active: >  >  Port   Type   Description >  10     TCP    10  >  21     TCP    ftp >  23     TCP    telnet  >  25     TCP    smtps >  111    TCP    sunrpcr >  118    TCP    118 >  > , > The TCPIP Server configuration looks like: > K >   Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Server Components Configuration Menuv >  >   Configuration options: > K >     1 - BIND         Disabled Stopped      11 - NTP      Disabled Stopped K >     2 - BOOTP        Disabled Stopped      12 - PC-NFS   Disabled StoppednK >     3 - DHCP         Disabled Stopped      13 - POP      Disabled StoppedAK >     4 - FINGER       Disabled Stopped      14 - PORTMAPPER Enabled StarteeK >     5 - FTP          Enabled  Started      15 - RLOGIN   Enabled  Started K >     6 - LBROKER      Disabled Stopped      16 - RMT      Disabled StoppedMK >     7 - LPR/LPD      Disabled Stopped      17 - SNMP     Disabled StoppedsK >     8 - METRIC       Disabled Stopped      18 - TELNET   Enabled  Started K >     9 - NFS          Enabled  Started      19 - TFTP     Disabled Stopped K >    10 - LOCKD/STATD  Disabled Stopped      20 - XDM      Disabled Stoppedt >  >  > + > In article <P87ZeBF8kIMg@elias.decus.ch>, - >  p_sture@elias.decus.ch (Paul Sture) wrote:l >  >  >>... J >>Bingo. After quite a bit of messing around in Terminal, visiting the MacH >>Help Center, you suggestion prompted me to abandoned it in favour of a >>VMS solution :-) >>D >>The following got me there for VMS (although not in Terminal - I'd4 >>like this to work at the Mac command prompt too*). >>I >>Login to VMS (with ssh, I have telnet disabled, so haven't tested that)R >>% >>$ set terminal/device=vt300/eighbit  >>. >>and I get my accented characters :-) :-) :-) >>J >>* my mistake all along had been to try getting _Terminal_ to display the! >>accented characters on its own.  >> >>VMS wins again :-) >  >   - ssh has nothing with the accented characters.m  # $ set terminal/device=vt300/eighbitb  
 is the key   -- rA   Bob Marcan                             mailto:bob.marcan@snt.siaA   Aster^H^H...HermesPlus^H^H^H...S&T   mailto:bob.marcan@aster.silA   Nade Ovcakove 1                       tel:    +386 (1) 5894-329nA   1000 Ljubljana, Slovenia                      http://www.snt.siT   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Aug 2003 05:47:38 -0700 From: gwiedijk@hr.nl (gerrie)a9 Subject: Re: UW SCSI for VMS 7.3_1 on an Alphaserver 255?h= Message-ID: <7498cff4.0308260447.46aede85@posting.google.com>e  q Adrian Chadd <adrian@ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au> wrote in message news:<slrnbklnns.t60.adrian@mussel.ucc.gu.uwa.edu.au>...  > Hi,o > D > Apologies for perhaps sounding newbie-ish, that'd be because I'm a% > little newbie when it comes to VMS.. > ? > I have an Alphaserver 255. I've also got a copy of VMS 7.3_1.v> > I'd like to try and get a VMS install to use an UW SCSI disk	 > or two.  > B > As far as I can tell there haven't been any firmware updates forA > this beast in quite a while so I'm guessing there's going to be:6 > a few compatibility issues with modern UW PCI cards. > @ > Would anyone be able to point out a list of supported hardwareB > in both the latest SRM firmware for the Alphaserver 255 and what= > OpenVMS supports? I don't mind booting off a SCSI-2 disk ifa > that'll make things easier.n > 	 > Thanks!d >  >  >  > Adrian  
 Hi Adrian,  @ I have an Alphastation 255 at home, and i use an KZPAC 3 channelD controller, which is in fact an MYLEX DAC960. As far as i know it isD an UW controller. The controller firmware must be 2.70 and not 3.5x,F because than the SRM firmware does't recognize the card. It works fine! and fast (for a card 6 years old)a Regards, Gerrie   ------------------------------    Date: 26 Aug 2003 09:48:04 -0700& From: jordan@ccs4vms.com (Rich Jordan)C Subject: VMS for small vendors and small sites?  No thanks, says HPh; Message-ID: <cc5619f2.0308260848.cf3221@posting.google.com>1  F My company has been a partner with DEC, and through that Compaq and HPB since the 1970s.  VAR, associate, SBA, whatever the acronym of theE year was, we were that.  We've always been a small company (peaked ateD 20+ in the '80s, currently lower), and until 2000 were exclusively aE VMS shop (after RSTS/RSX dried up, before my time with the company).  E Over the years we've had hundreds of customers, sold VAXen and Alphas D to many new sites, set up VMS based systems to their specifications,A including software purpose built for their needs.  We continue toiC maintain and customize a fair number of sites, and bring in severalr new customers each year.  E We started on a roll of VAX upgrades in late 2000/early 2001, and hade@ a fair number of Alpha upgrades lined up (mostly DS10s, a coupleF DS20s, and we partnered on an ES40 sale), most of which were killed by@ the alphacide in June 2001.  That abortion cost us a great deal,@ however 'good' Capellas reasons were, since it wiped out all theD goodwill and confidence in DEC/Compaq that we had spent the previousF two years (since the sellout) building up, and hurt the company badly.C  It is only in the last six months, based on the discontinuation of D hardware support for the MicroVAX 3100s, that we've managed to startF moving Alpha VMS platforms again.  We now have a good chunk of work inF the PC/VBcrap arena; we had no choice after the alphacide.  No new VMS( site sales yet, though we did still try.  E Now, apparently, we are no longer suitable to be a channel partner to-D HP because we simply cannot guarantee the level of sales they want. C Compaq had been willing to work with us since we still brought them2E some sales and a lot of customer goodwill.  But we're not going afteru> health care systems, lotteries, governmental (well, we do haveB municipal customers, but thats small potatoes), or other "approvedF channels" where HP wants OpenVMS, since we have no chance at competing@ with the big distributors on price.  So we continue to work withC villages, towns, finance companies, local manufacturers... and thataD can't provide the minimum sales that HP wants.  Especially in a down economy.  F Kind of a long history to pitch, but then it was history with DEC, notE with the wintel-centric keep VMS in its place management at HP.  They2B could hardly make their disdain for small VMS customers more plainB than by actions like these, which I assume must be impacting otherD small vendors.  Think that the big distributors are going to talk toA the one-office finance shop about a DS10 with OpenVMS?  The localuE metal fabrication shop?  The Village next town over?  And if they do,eF will they even mention VMS, much less try to sell it?  Or will they be@ happy pushing a crate of HP wintel hardware that can and will beF replaced by Dell or other low bidder in two or three years?  We'll notE even talk about HP salesfolks, most of whom probably still don't knowT9 that HP has an OS called OpenVMS, or hardware it runs on.s   Damn, this sucks.u   Rich Jordani CCSh   ------------------------------  # Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 09:37:33 GMTe% From: "Safir" <axica_nopub@yahoo.com>l8 Subject: Re: volume shadowing with 2 x IDE disks on Ds102 Message-ID: <xTF2b.3280$RI3.3173@news.cpqcorp.net>  ; on page 2 of the SPD left column, IDE disks are not listed.l   S.: "Larry Kilgallen" <Kilgallen@SpamCop.net> wrote in message- news:rwQQK6IDhZ4A@eisner.encompasserve.org...>; > In article <Rep1b.3093$DB6.966@news.cpqcorp.net>, "Safir"c <axica_nopub@yahoo.com> writes:  > > It is not supportedt > > seef6 > > http://h18000.www1.hp.com/info/SP2729/SP2729PF.PDF >w@ > What line in that document makes you say it is not supported ?   ------------------------------  % Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 06:42:35 -04008" From: "Hal Kuff" <kuff@tessco.com>) Subject: Re: XML Parser for VAX (OpenVMS) - Message-ID: <bifdq5$s9t@library1.airnews.net>a   Randy,    F     Would you be willing to post a zip file with the sample basic code calling the c routines...?    6 "xenman" <xenman@sprynet.nospaam.com> wrote in message2 news:mu1lkvcu90hjhe1ru787gj5mjrfc2e3gbc@4ax.com...4 > On Sun, 24 Aug 2003 21:26:10 GMT, "Craig A. Berry"( > <craigberry@mac.com.spamfooler> wrote: >o; > >In article <mm9ikvknijs0d3pm2m7bv9fd0keggn1ggl@4ax.com>,e5 > > Randy Park <rjpark@mindspring.nospaam.com> wrote:h > >07 > >> Does anyone know of any XML parsers, callable fromc7 > >> a VMS application, that are available for both Vaxc5 > >> and Alpha systems.  I have C and Basic compilersa; > >> currently available.  I have found numerous references-4 > >> to parsers for OpenVMS Alpha using C++ or Java, > >> but nothing for Vax.  > > 7 > >There's a non-validating parser in C called expat ataA > ><http://sourceforge.net/projects/expat>.  The Perl XML::ParserrF > >extension is based on expat.  There's also a validating parser in CA > >called libxml2 that's part of the Gnome project.  More info ati > ><http://www.xmlsoft.org/>., > >nF > >Both of these parsers have been known to work on VMS.  There may beH > >additional porting required for VAX support (or maybe not -- I simply" > >haven't tried to build in VAX). > ; > Hey, thanks.  I downloaded the expart parser.  I compiled < > on my Alpha, I wrote a test program (in Basic), threw some, > test data into a text file, and it worked. >  > Thanks again.  >    ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.472 ************************