1 INFO-VAX	Sun, 31 Aug 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 481       Contents:M Re: ??==Delete key only backspaces w/o delete from Telnet in Mac OSX Terminal   Re: Cleaning up license database  Re: Cleaning up license database  Re: Cleaning up license database Re: Full system disk HSZTERM  Re: HSZTERM  Re: HSZTERM  Re: Oracle roadmap for OpenVMS Re: Oracle roadmap for OpenVMS" Re: Switch Frm DECNet+ to Phase IV Re: We need your DS10 Systems   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 13:39:08 -0500 5 From: russotto@grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) V Subject: Re: ??==Delete key only backspaces w/o delete from Telnet in Mac OSX Terminal2 Message-ID: <Mh2dnawyhK_Rcs2iRTvUqA@speakeasy.net>  B In article <aus-C6E38B.14353630082003@wrzx08.rz.uni-wuerzburg.de>,+ Hans Aus  <aus@vim.uni-wuerzburg.de> wrote:  >>F >Fred, another thought - What code sequence does the Terminal have to J >send in order to have the delete key work properly on the VMS host? If I H >pass this code on to the MacTelnet or iTerm/Mac folks, perhaps someone 0 >will take pity on us and add this as an option.   DEL.  ASCII 127.     --  F Matthew T. Russotto                            mrussotto@speakeasy.netF "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuitL of justice is no virtue."  But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of / a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 18:52:10 +0100 + From: John Laird <john@laird-towers.org.uk> ) Subject: Re: Cleaning up license database 8 Message-ID: <uoo1lvgu9kmrdcoou3sranibr9c6nind9q@4ax.com>  G On 30 Aug 2003 10:37:31 GMT, Tony Arnold <tony.arnold@man.ac.uk> wrote:   L >What I would like to do is clean up the database, i.e., delete all licenses >that have terminated.  K Our licence databases got in such a mess with all the ASAP stuff, I elected B to select out and load only the ones we needed from the .com file.  F Sadly for you, the LICE DELE/STATUS qualifier does not take a value of EXPIRED or TERMINATED :-(   J If I were you, I would simply create new databases each year.  You can useD the LICE COPY command to extract out any real ones you would like toJ preserve (they will be disabled from the existing database).  I retain ourL permanent VMS user licences in preference to overloading them with temporaryJ ones as inevitably otherwise we get to a point with one or two nodes whereL nothing is valid and I must physically get onto the machines to fix them (we mostly telework).    --   John   ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:05:50 +0200 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> ) Subject: Re: Cleaning up license database ' Message-ID: <3F5111AE.24B4A954@aaa.com>    Hi. < This is more or less that same "problem" as with the regular hobbyist licenses, right ?  B I wrote a simple COM file that reads the *new* licens command file? and builds a second command file with the same LICENSE REGISTER E commands *but* with a LICENSE DELETE command in front of each product  and LICENSE LOAD after each.  B That way, I always have a clean LMF database with only the current= licenses (+ any old licenes that had for some reason had been 0 removed). And I also get all products LOAD'ed...  	 Jan-Erik.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 02:20:13 GMT > From: John Malmberg <a@all.addresses.on.cdrom.are.invalid.aaa>) Subject: Re: Cleaning up license database < Message-ID: <xXc4b.11696$Nc.6582444@news1.news.adelphia.net>   Tony Arnold wrote:L > I'm currently making use of the educational license programme from HP. TheO > programme issues licenses that expire each year and so every year I request a K > new set of licenses. The licenses come as a command procedure that I just P > execute which adds all the new license to the license database and, of course,M > leaves the old licenses their but they are terminated, so never get loaded. O > This is the third year I've done this, so I now currently have 3 licenses per & > product, 2 of which have terminated. > M > What I would like to do is clean up the database, i.e., delete all licenses  > that have terminated.    <snip>  D That reminds me, I need to submit the newer version of this command F procedure to the next freeware CD-ROM.  It has a change that makes it I more efficient as it only lists the expired licenses in the file that it   parses.   = http://eisner.encompasserve.org/~malmberg/dcl/LMF_CLEANUP.TXT      -John  wb8tyw@qsl.network Personal Opinion Only    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:46:53 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net>  Subject: Re: Full system disk ' Message-ID: <3F510D3D.616024D0@fsi.net>    Robert Deininger wrote:  > D > In article <bin85g$56p$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>, Chris Sharman% > <chris.sharman@sorry.nospam> wrote:  >  > >Chris Sharman wrote: 8 > >> Now the system disk (1Gb rx26f) is full (12M free). > >>I > >> I moved off the page files some time ago, and removed the dump file.  > >>K > >> There's quite a lot (84M) of *.*_OLD files around, presumably from the H > >> installations I've just done (I had to delete all the older ones toL > >> complete the installation). I presume these would be needed if I wantedK > >> to use the product undo feature ? (I might, because I had trouble with M > >> sys5 before, which is included in update 2). Could I zip & remove these?  > >>L > >> There's also around 300Mb of files with expiry over 2 years ago (we useM > >> volume retention 1min/1day) - are there any system files which don't get L > >> their expiry updated, which I shouldn't zip up & remove ? Are there any- > >> good reasons not to zip & remove these ?  > > G > >Should have mentioned, it's an Alphastation 255/233, 96M memory, 1Gb # > >system disk, 2G & 9G user disks.  > L > 1 GB is fairly marginal for a VMS system disk in recent versions.  You canK > install just fine, but maintenance, upgrades, and patches become painful.  > L > If your time is worth anything, spend a few dollars on a handful of 2 or 4H > GB drives (used, but likely newer than your 1 GB drive).  Upgrade your > system disk.  F Like he said. Certain Seagates that can be had 2nd hand will work veryG nicely. Any RZ28 or RZ29 in a StorageWorks SBB can also be removed from G the canister and installed internally in systems like yours. Be careful E about wide vs. narrow SCSI interface in the RZ29 line. Masochists who H like heavy, noisy gear can acquire BA12 cases and RZ74 disks (3.85GBF or so) on the used market.   ' Be careful about what you delete, also.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:30:03 +0200 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com>  Subject: HSZTERM' Message-ID: <3F51175B.BED61E52@aaa.com>    Hi. ; I'v been looking around the HP/VMS site to locate a copy of ) HSZTERM (aka SCSIPAD), but can't find it.   D (The kit that enables the SET HOST/SCSI interface to HSZ controlers)  + Anybody know what has happend to this kit ?  Or where I can find it ?  	 Jan-Erik.    ------------------------------  % Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 00:09:31 +0200  From: Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> Subject: Re: HSZTERM2 Message-ID: <bir7e2$q6j$1@news2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl>   Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:  > Hi. = > I'v been looking around the HP/VMS site to locate a copy of + > HSZTERM (aka SCSIPAD), but can't find it.  > F > (The kit that enables the SET HOST/SCSI interface to HSZ controlers) > - > Anybody know what has happend to this kit ?  > Or where I can find it ? >  > Jan-Erik.   Q It was and is not supported software. In fact using it may cause disk corruption  G we have been told. We had some situations where it seems this happened.    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 23:13:24 GMT % From: "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com>  Subject: Re: HSZTERM9 Message-ID: <oca4b.11771$Pd1.11057@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>   ) Dirk Munk <munk@home.nl> wrote in message , news:bir7e2$q6j$1@news2.tilbu1.nb.home.nl... > Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:  > > Hi. ? > > I'v been looking around the HP/VMS site to locate a copy of - > > HSZTERM (aka SCSIPAD), but can't find it.  > > H > > (The kit that enables the SET HOST/SCSI interface to HSZ controlers) > > / > > Anybody know what has happend to this kit ?  > > Or where I can find it ? > > 
 > > Jan-Erik.  > G > It was and is not supported software. In fact using it may cause disk 
 corruptionI > we have been told. We had some situations where it seems this happened.   K I don't know about causing corruption, but I was told that it uses the same K channel to talk to the disk controllers that the SAN appliance uses to talk L to the HSG/HSV controllers.  You could use one or the other, but not both atI the same time.  It seems that they stomp all over each other in trying to   use the same connection channel.   ------------------------------  + Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 18:23:30 +0000 (UTC) . From: "Insomnee" <robert.heyes@btinternet.com>' Subject: Re: Oracle roadmap for OpenVMS 2 Message-ID: <biqq31$ql1$1@hercules.btinternet.com>  . "georgie" <me@mycomputer.com> wrote in message; news:Geu3b.8238$3E.5232@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... ; > "Insomnee" <robert.heyes@btinternet.com> wrote in message . > news:bilq4e$m03$1@hercules.btinternet.com...K > > Does anyone know what Oracle's roadmap for OpenVMS is, or where I could  > find > > it on the Oracle website?  >  > I found it on HP's site:- > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/solutions/oracle/  >  > g  > : Thanks for that, but why isnt it on the Oracle website :o!   ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 19:21:02 GMT # From: "georgie" <me@mycomputer.com> ' Subject: Re: Oracle roadmap for OpenVMS A Message-ID: <yO64b.2099$tw6.146@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>   9 "Insomnee" <robert.heyes@btinternet.com> wrote in message , news:biqq31$ql1$1@hercules.btinternet.com... > 0 > "georgie" <me@mycomputer.com> wrote in message= > news:Geu3b.8238$3E.5232@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... = > > "Insomnee" <robert.heyes@btinternet.com> wrote in message 0 > > news:bilq4e$m03$1@hercules.btinternet.com...G > > > Does anyone know what Oracle's roadmap for OpenVMS is, or where I  could  > > find > > > it on the Oracle website?  > >  > > I found it on HP's site:/ > > http://h71000.www7.hp.com/solutions/oracle/  > >  > > g  > > < > Thanks for that, but why isnt it on the Oracle website :o!  H It's probably buried somewhere on Oracle's website, but I found it using google.  It's my friend... ;-)   g    ------------------------------  % Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 15:40:54 -0500 1 From: "David J. Dachtera" <djesys.nospam@fsi.net> + Subject: Re: Switch Frm DECNet+ to Phase IV ' Message-ID: <3F510BD6.C081F888@fsi.net>    Michael Moroney wrote: > ) > Bart.Zorn@xs4all.nl (Bart Zorn) writes:  > G > >DECnet Phase IV was/is routable. You have routing functionality both D > >as host-based or as dedicated routers. Most Cisco routers also doB > >(did?) DECnet Phase IV routing if so configured (and licensed?) > 7 > >Protocols such as LAT, MOP and SCS are not routable.    ...or LAD, LAST, ...  H Important point to remember: these are only members of the DECnet familyH (except SCS, of course); they are not DECnet itself. DECnet-IV certainly% DOES use the routing layer, as noted.    > >Michael Austin <maustin@no-more-spam.firstdbasource.com> wrote in message news:<vzx3b.29$qf2.28@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>...  > >>L > >> Then you will always have both if necessary.  Remember, DECNET Phase IV > >> is NOT routable.  > G > DECnet IV is routable just fine, HOWEVER, I do not think Alphas could ) > ever be anything other than end nodes.    F Allegedly, the DVNETEXT license on Alpha allows still an end-node, butF more than one interface. Dunno if any of the NAS licenses are likewiseH applicable. I never attempted that myself, but I've heard that it should work.    > So you'll need either a VAX H > of some sort, or one of the Cisco/modified DECserver/whatever boxes to > actually do so.   B DECbrouters come up on eBay from time to time. They're essentially5 DEC-badged kit running earlier versions of Cisco IOS.    --   David J. Dachtera  dba DJE Systems  http://www.djesys.com/  ( Unofficial Affordable OpenVMS Home Page: http://www.djesys.com/vms/soho/    ------------------------------  # Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2003 20:52:59 GMT % From: "Mike Naime" <mnaime@kc.rr.com> & Subject: Re: We need your DS10 Systems8 Message-ID: <L884b.11545$Pd1.3007@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>  = Robert Deininger <rdeininger@mindspring.com> wrote in message F news:rdeininger-3008030744330001@user-105n84e.dialup.mindspring.com...< > In article <bilvnf$dt5$1@charm.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,4 > JONESD@er6.eng.ohio-state.edu (David Jones) wrote: > , > >In message <3F4E61E0.8F2712CC@intel.com>,+ > >  Ken Fairfield <My.Full.Name@intel.com>  > >>Island wrote:  > >>> D > >>> Please call us urgently if you need to dispose of DS10 systems$ > >>> Any kind, almost any condition* > >>> We will consider non-working systems > >>G > >>Now _this_ is the kind of post I like to see.  David's got a client $ > >>who needs a boat load of DS10's. > > G > >Another way to look at is that HP end-of-life'd the DS10 without its L > >replacement (DS15?) being in production yet, so you are getting an influx > of newL > >DS10 customers in the used market (those who aren't forswearing Alpha and HPJ > >altogether).  The best we can get from our distributor is that the DS15 will/ > >be available for purchase in October, maybe.  > L > The Alphaserver web page still lists both DS10 and DS10L systems.  Are you; > saying you can't order them?  Is your distributor broken?  > C > I've heard the DS15 will be released around the end of September.  > I > They also still show the DS20E for sale, though with the DS25 available F > for about a year, I wonder if anyone is buying the DS20E these days.  K Yes,  We just bought 8 DS20's. (along with 25's and 47's)  The ds20's where K used.  I'm not sure if they where the 667's or 833's. 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