1 INFO-VAX	Mon, 22 Dec 2003	Volume 2003 : Issue 707       Contents:' Re: Bug in DEC VAXVMS FORTRAN V6.5-188? 1 Re: can one embed escape sequences in the prompt? 1 Re: can one embed escape sequences in the prompt? 1 Re: can one embed escape sequences in the prompt? 1 Re: can one embed escape sequences in the prompt? 1 Re: can one embed escape sequences in the prompt? 1 Re: can one embed escape sequences in the prompt? : Re: HP tops 1 million tpmC on Superdome with Itanium2 CPUs! Re: lbr$ routines and concurrency ! Re: lbr$ routines and concurrency   Looking for a HSG80 driver Guru.' Problem with NFS after upgrade to 7.3-2 B Re: Problems with CDRecord and a (new) Yamaha CRW-F1 SCSI recorder0 Re: Reading VMS Documentation without DECWindows0 Re: Reading VMS Documentation without DECWindows0 Re: Reading VMS Documentation without DECWindows0 Re: Reading VMS Documentation without DECWindows( Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS( Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS( Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS4 UCX Version 5.3 ECO 2 - NFS Mount Disconnect Problem V7.3-2 shipping problems...  Re: V7.3-2 shipping problems... 3 Re: Weird backup and shadow copy performance on VMS / Re: What Andrew and sun can't stand is that ... / Re: What Andrew and sun can't stand is that ... / Re: What Andrew and sun can't stand is that ... ( Re: Where does HP fall in this equation?! Re: [TCPIP V5.4] SSH observations   F ----------------------------------------------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:02:12 -0500 < From: "Peter Weaver" <WeaverConsultingServices@sympatico.ca>0 Subject: Re: Bug in DEC VAXVMS FORTRAN V6.5-188?9 Message-ID: <bs74ie$a7eq3$1@ID-141708.news.uni-berlin.de>    Peter Weaver wrote:  >... > This is what we see; > Running BOB_BROKEN2 > Testing with cvtflg not set, should default to 05 > Outpu: 12:08:21.36 Length: 11 testdate: 18-JAN-2001 
 > 12:08:21.36  > Testing with cvtflg set to 05 > Outpu: 18-JAN-2001 Length: 12 testdate: 18-JAN-2001 
 > 12:08:21.36  > Running BOB_FIXED 2 > Testing with cvtflg not set, should default to 06 > Output: 18-JAN-2001 Length: 12 testdate: 18-JAN-2001
 > 12:08:21.36  > Testing with cvtflg set to 06 > Output: 18-JAN-2001 Length: 12 testdate: 18-JAN-2001
 > 12:08:21.36   : Thanks to the various people who replied through e-mail on> this one. One person tells me the bug still appears in Fortran< V6.6-208 on VMS 7.3. For those who missed it, the difference> between BOB_BROKEN.FOR and BOB_FIXED.FOR is one has "'Output'"; and one has "'Outpu'" in line 9, this changes the result of 9 the $ASCTIM call in line 8. Other than the one "T" in the 5 literal part of the type both programs are identical.    File BOB_BROKEN.FOR;16  9 type *, 'Outpu: ',c12OUT_DATE, ****** File BOB_FIXED.FOR;15 ! 9 type *, 'Output: ',c12OUT_DATE,  ************   --   Peter Weaver Weaver Consulting Services Inc.  Canadian VAR for CHARON-VAX  www.weaverconsulting.ca    ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:24:27 GMT 6 From: peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER): Subject: Re: can one embed escape sequences in the prompt?3 Message-ID: <L_wFb.182116$dt3.27033@news.chello.at>   m In article <b096a4ee.0312212029.9dcbb07@posting.google.com>, spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) writes: s >peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) wrote in message news:<fnlFb.173783$dt3.153484@news.chello.at>... z >> In article <bs433m$2d8$5@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:J >> >I'm not saying it's necessarily a good idea, but can one embed escape F >> >sequences in the prompt, e.g. to make it appear bold by using the > >> >appropriate escape sequences for the terminal in question? >>   >> Yes, it is. >>  O >> I use it for a decade now to restore video attributes or a bad scroll region O >> (like EDT which doesn't turn it off on exit but sets it to 24 lines which is & >> bad on DECterms with larger sizes). >  > G >That EDT problem was fixed at some point somewhere roughly between VMS # >v5.5x and 6.1. Is it broken again?   M Cool. I haven't noticed (for obvious reasons). But I doubt, that it was V5.5. L It must be around V7 as I waited for it many many years to become fixed (andJ I did look for known bugs from my list on [almost] every new VMS version).  E >[Code to assemble escape sequences into the symbol "PROMPT" omitted]  > $ >> $       SET PROMPT = "''prompt' " > 
 >You can use   >  >    $ SET PROMPT = &PROMPT  > F >instead. By using the ampersand in this way you can TYPE or PRINT theD >command file without sending the actual raw escape sequences to theF >terminal or printer. This may also help when running the command file >with SET VERIFY.   0 SET VERIFY has a difference, TYPE/PRINT has not.K And I prefer using the quotes for debugging reasons (in general; but I must O admit, that this example is one of the very few examples to use the ampersand).    --   Peter "EPLAN" LANGSTOEGER % Network and OpenVMS system specialist  E-mail  peter@langstoeger.atF A-1030 VIENNA  AUSTRIA              I'm not a pessimist, I'm a realist   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 13:00:56 GMT - From: Mike Rechtman <michael.rechtman@hp.com> : Subject: Re: can one embed escape sequences in the prompt?& Message-ID: <3FE70724.28AD7526@hp.com>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:  > G > I'm not saying it's necessarily a good idea, but can one embed escape C > sequences in the prompt, e.g. to make it appear bold by using the < > appropriate escape sequences for the terminal in question?0 This is what I use in DECTerms (colour monitor):   $ def = f$envir("DEFAULT")G $ def1 = f$parse(def,,,"DIRECTORY") - "000000" - "][" - "]["- "[" - "]" 6 $ if def1 .eqs. "" then def1 = f$parse(def,,,"DEVICE") $ ! 	 $ On = ""  $ ESC[0,8] = 27  $ Off = "''ESC'[0m" 2 $ if ( lat_terminal .eqs. "FALSE" )	! DECterm only $ then $       On  = "''ESC'[33m" $       if f$priv("SETPRV")  $       then" $               On  = "''ESC'[31m"< $               write sys$output "''OSC'2L;*''nodenm'*''ST'"
 $       endif  $ else $       On  = "''ESC'[1m" 3 $       if f$priv("SETPRV") then On  = "''ESC'[1m*"  $ endif # $ set prompt="''On'''def1'''Off'_$"  $ exit $!   Mike --  E --------------------------------------------------------------------- E Usual disclaimer: All opinions are mine alone, perhaps not even that. ? Mike Rechtman                            *rechtman@tzora.co.il* F Kibbutz Tzor'a.                          Voice (home): 972-2-9908337  B   "20% of a job takes 80% of the time, the rest takes another 80%"E ---------------------------------------------------------------------  -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----  Version: 3.1: GCM/CS d(-)pu s:+>:- a++ C++ U-- L-- W++ N++ K? w--- V+++$6 PS+ PE-- t 5? X- tv-- b+ DI+ D-- G e++ h--- r+++ y+++@ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------    ------------------------------    Date: 22 Dec 2003 06:39:13 -0800. From: spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman): Subject: Re: can one embed escape sequences in the prompt?= Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0312220639.43797cf5@posting.google.com>   q peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) wrote in message news:<L_wFb.182116$dt3.27033@news.chello.at>... o > In article <b096a4ee.0312212029.9dcbb07@posting.google.com>, spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) writes: u > >peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) wrote in message news:<fnlFb.173783$dt3.153484@news.chello.at>... | > >> In article <bs433m$2d8$5@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:L > >> >I'm not saying it's necessarily a good idea, but can one embed escape H > >> >sequences in the prompt, e.g. to make it appear bold by using the @ > >> >appropriate escape sequences for the terminal in question? > >>   > >> Yes, it is. > >>  Q > >> I use it for a decade now to restore video attributes or a bad scroll region Q > >> (like EDT which doesn't turn it off on exit but sets it to 24 lines which is ( > >> bad on DECterms with larger sizes). > >  > > I > >That EDT problem was fixed at some point somewhere roughly between VMS % > >v5.5x and 6.1. Is it broken again?  > O > Cool. I haven't noticed (for obvious reasons). But I doubt, that it was V5.5. N > It must be around V7 as I waited for it many many years to become fixed (andL > I did look for known bugs from my list on [almost] every new VMS version).  F Well, it may not have made it to documentation. And I don't know aboutF DECterm, but EDT on VMS v6.1 works fine on my SmarTerm except that theF cursor is placed at the bottom of the screen. But that's okay: I still% get my original screen settings back.   G > >[Code to assemble escape sequences into the symbol "PROMPT" omitted]  > > & > >> $       SET PROMPT = "''prompt' " > >  > >You can use   > >  > >    $ SET PROMPT = &PROMPT  > > H > >instead. By using the ampersand in this way you can TYPE or PRINT theF > >command file without sending the actual raw escape sequences to theH > >terminal or printer. This may also help when running the command file > >with SET VERIFY.  > 2 > SET VERIFY has a difference, TYPE/PRINT has not.  C Well, I didn't try it in these specific cases, but in general it is D not a good idea to send escape sequences to terminals or printers. IC have had the "pleasure" of printing some inherited DCL code only to E find the (line) printer get totally messed up, trying to print on the C same region of the paper over and over again (Just what you need: a D scrolling region on a printer!). Only a power cycle would fix it. OfC course I fixed the inherited code so that it wouldn't happen again.   M > And I prefer using the quotes for debugging reasons (in general; but I must    Yes, I often do, too.   Q > admit, that this example is one of the very few examples to use the ampersand).    See   }     http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=b096a4ee.0211121306.772d1334%40posting.google.com&rnum=3    or use  A     Message-ID: <b096a4ee.0211121306.772d1334@posting.google.com>     B to see more uses of the ampersand (warning! url may have wrapped.)     Disclaimer: JMHO Alan E. Feldman    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:11:36 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>: Subject: Re: can one embed escape sequences in the prompt?0 Message-ID: <3FE725C8.68DD654F@sture.homeip.net>  / Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply wrote:  > G > I'm not saying it's necessarily a good idea, but can one embed escape C > sequences in the prompt, e.g. to make it appear bold by using the < > appropriate escape sequences for the terminal in question?  H Yes, but don't use it in batch mode - it doesn't just make logfiles lookE messy but can screw up printers. And beware Murphy  - he will have it H that the one time you need to log in remotely to fix something, the only, terminal emulator you have handy will choke.   --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------    Date: 22 Dec 2003 08:36:31 -0800. From: al5vf03p02@sneakemail.com (William Webb): Subject: Re: can one embed escape sequences in the prompt?; Message-ID: <d5ce4b06.0312220836.84eec5@posting.google.com>   q peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) wrote in message news:<L_wFb.182116$dt3.27033@news.chello.at>... o > In article <b096a4ee.0312212029.9dcbb07@posting.google.com>, spamsink2001@yahoo.com (Alan E. Feldman) writes: u > >peter@langstoeger.at (Peter 'EPLAN' LANGSTOEGER) wrote in message news:<fnlFb.173783$dt3.153484@news.chello.at>... | > >> In article <bs433m$2d8$5@online.de>, helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de (Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply) writes:L > >> >I'm not saying it's necessarily a good idea, but can one embed escape H > >> >sequences in the prompt, e.g. to make it appear bold by using the @ > >> >appropriate escape sequences for the terminal in question? > >>   > >> Yes, it is. > >>  Q > >> I use it for a decade now to restore video attributes or a bad scroll region Q > >> (like EDT which doesn't turn it off on exit but sets it to 24 lines which is ( > >> bad on DECterms with larger sizes). > >  > > I > >That EDT problem was fixed at some point somewhere roughly between VMS % > >v5.5x and 6.1. Is it broken again?  > O > Cool. I haven't noticed (for obvious reasons). But I doubt, that it was V5.5. N > It must be around V7 as I waited for it many many years to become fixed (andL > I did look for known bugs from my list on [almost] every new VMS version). > G > >[Code to assemble escape sequences into the symbol "PROMPT" omitted]  > > & > >> $       SET PROMPT = "''prompt' " > >  > >You can use   > >  > >    $ SET PROMPT = &PROMPT  > > H > >instead. By using the ampersand in this way you can TYPE or PRINT theF > >command file without sending the actual raw escape sequences to theH > >terminal or printer. This may also help when running the command file > >with SET VERIFY.  > 2 > SET VERIFY has a difference, TYPE/PRINT has not.M > And I prefer using the quotes for debugging reasons (in general; but I must Q > admit, that this example is one of the very few examples to use the ampersand).   @ While we're on the subject of things that should perhaps best be' avoided in prompts, here's another one:   E Adding three greater than symbols > in a row to one's prompt can fool D some system monitoring software [which shall not be named here] into# thinking that the node has crashed.    WWWebb   ========================! William W. Webb- EMS Operations,   OpenVMS Systems Support % USPS DSSC Annex - 4730 Hargrove Road  ( Raleigh, NC 27616-2874 919.325.7500x4186 * * * -    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:55:03 -0000 2 From: "Tom Wade" <t.wade.nospam@picard.eurokom.ie>: Subject: Re: can one embed escape sequences in the prompt?/ Message-ID: <22FFb.1859$HR.5051@news.indigo.ie>   L "Phillip Helbig---remove CLOTHES to reply" <helbig@astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de>/ wrote in message news:bs433m$2d8$5@online.de... G > I'm not saying it's necessarily a good idea, but can one embed escape C > sequences in the prompt, e.g. to make it appear bold by using the < > appropriate escape sequences for the terminal in question?  I Yes.  I use the two enable/disable command procedures below to change the 6 prompt color when I turn on/off  privileges (DECterm).    PICARD-# type loc_com:enable.comA $ !   Command File to enable all privileges and change the prompt  $  $       echo := 'F$Verify (0)' $       Set Noon $       esc[0,8]=27  $  $ !   Enable Privileges  $ ' $       old_privs := 'F$Setprv ("all")' & $       node := 'F$Getsyi ("SCSNODE")' $ & $       If "''enable_prompt'" .eqs. "" $       Then: $               Set Prompt="''esc'[31m''node'-# ''esc'[0m" $       Else- $               Set Prompt="''enable_prompt'" 
 $       EndIf  $ 
 $Finished:! $       echo := 'F$Verify (echo)'   ! PICARD-# type loc_com:disable.com  $       echo := 'F$Verify (0)' $       Set Noon $       esc[0,8]=27 9 $       junk := 'F$Setprv ("NOALL,TMPMBX,SETPRV,NETMBX")' & $       node := 'F$Getsyi ("scsnode")' $ ' $       If "''disable_prompt'" .eqs. ""  $       Then: $               Set Prompt="''esc'[34m''node'-$ ''esc'[0m" $       Else. $               Set Prompt="''disable_prompt'"
 $       EndIf  $ 
 $Finished:! $       echo := 'F$Verify (echo)'   ? --------------------------------------------------------------- < Tom Wade             | EMail: tee dot wade at eurokom dot ie? EuroKom              | X400:  g=tom;s=wade;o=eurokom;p=eurokom; / Unit A2              |        a=eirmail400;c=ie / Nutgrove Office Park | Tel:   +353 (1) 296-9696 / Rathfarnham          | Fax:   +353 (1) 296-9697 < Dublin 14            | Disclaimer:  This is not a disclaimerC Ireland              | Tip:   "Friends don't let friends do Unix !"    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:05:03 +0000 O From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> C Subject: Re: HP tops 1 million tpmC on Superdome with Itanium2 CPUs 0 Message-ID: <bs6tmf$j7j$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Bob Ceculski wrote:  > Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote in message news:<brv228$1lb$2@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>...  >  >>David Svensson wrote:  >> >>>Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> wrote in message news:<brcerr$gu9$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>... >>>  >>> 8 >>>>Its BS because in order for it not to be BS you have7 >>>>to demonstrate why on earth anyone should care what 1 >>>>the TPC-C or SPEC numbers are for a platform.  >>>>6 >>>>Customers run apps they don't run SPECint ot TPC-C >>>>never have and never will. >>>  >>> H >>>As far as I see when I use and build applications on a new Sun serverE >>>it is going around twice as slow compared to other platforms, so I B >>>think the SPEC numbers actually reflect real world performance. >> >>: >>When you use and build applications on Solaris which Sun4 >>compiler do you use, and what Sun platform are you >>running it on ?  >>	 >>Regards  >>Andrew Harrison  >  > 7 > never mind Andrew ... that is normal for slowaris ...   4 So you are still posting things you have made up and cannot justify.   4 Bob the CERT security troll becomes Bob the security6 and performance troll, keep it up before long you will2 be trolling on all aspects of computer technology.   Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------    Date: 22 Dec 2003 01:58:56 -08000 From: keith.cayemberg@conti.de (Keith Cayemberg)* Subject: Re: lbr$ routines and concurrency= Message-ID: <3a65a5c8.0312220158.1aa052ae@posting.google.com>   v koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) wrote in message news:<u8aoeFn$lZDs@eisner.encompasserve.org>...r > In article <477e0934.0312180211.597aea7@posting.google.com>, usenet_vms@lehrerfamily.com (Joshua Lehrer) writes: > > F > > Sure.  It seems that the C++ compiler is significantly faster whenG > > reading files from a text module than reading them from disk.  This J > > *appears* to have something to do with the lock manager, but we aren't > > 100% sure. > D >    Not suprizing.  That's why Fortran, C, ... use modules in a TLB% >    instead of files in a directory.  > L >    TLB module lookup is faster than file lookup in a directory.  Probably L >    in large part because the directory file itself must have shared write H >    access.  In some part directory caching used to be too small if youK >    had lots of files, but more recent versions of VMS have relieved that.   O Yes, It has been my understanding that the Librarian Utility I/O is in general  E faster than directory I/O, since the RMS layer is bypassed. Librarian E is accessing the libraries with QIO$ system routines. Oracle Rdb, and J possibly other databases, bypass RMS as well to acquire the same benefits.K Consequently RMS tuning should have little or no affect on Librarian or Rdb  managed files.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 05:48:20 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>* Subject: Re: lbr$ routines and concurrency) Message-ID: <3FE6CBC3.95643E25@istop.com>    Joshua Lehrer wrote:H > I still get a long (~1 minute) pause when flushing after the insertionG > of ~6,800 module.  I currently flush every 500 module insertions.  If E > no flushing is performed, the call to close takes a very long time.   H But what is overall time like ? It could be that doing mulitiple flushesA consumes more accumulated time that one single (but long ) flush.   I The documentation is not very clear on whether LBR$CLOSE does an implicit M $FLUSH. $CLOSE opnly mentions freeing of memory, whereas $FLUSH mentions both 0 writing of modified blocks and freing of memory.  J However, the example programs in the manual do not make use of $FLUSH when5 inserting or deleting a module, they only use $CLOSE.    ------------------------------    Date: 22 Dec 2003 09:57:07 -0800* From: bill.nadzam@onstor.com (Bill Nadzam)) Subject: Looking for a HSG80 driver Guru. = Message-ID: <3dec9efa.0312220957.5c656a73@posting.google.com>   B Hello to the group, and I hope there is a kind sole out there with& insight into the working of the HSG80.  C Need the Rosetta Stone, AKA: inside information on the SCSI command C required by a system driver to switch a device from Port to Port. I E located a small statement in a LINUX users group that suggests a SCSI C Start command is all it takes. When I run a SCSI command, like read E capacity, down the NON-Preferred path of an HSG80 at Firmware 8.71F I F get a device not ready sense response. This would seem to suggest thatE a start command is needed. So it agrees with the LINUX groups info. I @ was just wondering if there is anyone out there that has writtenB Multipath Failover drivers for the COMPAQ HSG80 controller. And ifE there are any known problems that I should prepare for. Also does the > HSG80 start command allow for status after the switch over has9 completed, or if the driver needs to poll for completion.   E Thanks for reading, and hope to hear from the HSG80 Guru's out there.  Bill.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 18:31:21 -0000 < From: "Mark Itzcovitz" <mark.itzcovitz@nospam.vistacomp.com>0 Subject: Problem with NFS after upgrade to 7.3-2= Message-ID: <3fe73879$0$9388$ed9e5944@reading.news.pipex.net>    Hi,   D I've just upgraded a development box to OpenVMS 7.3-2 (and HP TCP/IPJ Services 5.4) and now my C compiles fail to find header files. Both the .cJ source and the header files are accessed through NFS Client on the VMS boxL to Microsoft Services for Unix NFS server on a Windows 2000 box. In general,C there is no problem accessing the header files - I can do directory 7 listings, type them out and copy them with no problems.   I The location of the header files is specified with a /INCLUDE flag on the H compile command. If, instead, I hardcode it into the source, it works OK- (but I can't leave it like that permanently).   H A DCL f$search() with the full file specification also fails. If I put a= wild card in any part of the file specification, it succeeds.    Anybody have any insights?   Thanks,    Mark   ------------------------------    Date: 22 Dec 2003 14:19:05 +0100C From: vaxinf@chclu.chemie.uni-konstanz.de (Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann) K Subject: Re: Problems with CDRecord and a (new) Yamaha CRW-F1 SCSI recorder - Message-ID: <3fe6ef49$1@news.uni-konstanz.de>   = In article <cc5619f2.0312201238.371035e9@posting.google.com>, ( jordan@ccs4vms.com (Rich Jordan) writes:1 >PWS600au, VMS V7.3-1, with the following patches  > - Update 1.0 > - CDRECORD 1.0 > - PCSI 1.0 > - LAN 6.0  > F >The system's disks are on the embedded Ultra controller; the externalB >CRW-F1 is ID 3 on a second bus (KZPAA card) with internal PioneerC >CDROM (ID4) and a TLZ07 (ID 5); cables are all premium, length OK,  >terminators OK. > B >The CRW-F1 is set to 512-byte blocks by jumper.  VMS sees it as aE >normal disk device identified as "YAMAHA CRW-F1S".  I've tried it in G >two separate cases in case the power supply was weak/faulty, and tried . >Sony, TDK, and Fuji CDR disks.  Same results. > G >The CRW-F1 works perfectly (and very fast) as a CDROM.  Any attempt to E >burn a CD fails, using both CDRECORD V1.8a9 (which was on the system F >from VMS V7.2-1 usage) and V1.10 (VMS 7.3-1 and CDRECORD update patchE >release).  I can perform the -prcap command and see the device info, A >but any attempt to burn at any speed results in a series of SCSI E >errors.  The error count on the PKB bus increments but no errors are  >logged to the CRW-F1. > D >After a failed burn, the drive is locked; I cannot eject the CD viaA >the button or using CDRecord -eject, or perform a -prcap, as the D >commands fail with a SCSI error again.  Powercycling the drive willF >allow ejecting the disk, but it will still not respond to any furtherF >commands, including using it as a CDROM until the system is rebooted. > F >My old Yamaha 6416 still works with the older CDRecord when I plug itD >in instead (using the same cables and SCSI ID); I haven't tried the >newer CDRecord with it. >  > E >Example errors from attempting a burn (these errors followed the run  >example provided below) > D >Any thoughts appreciated.  I may stick the unit in a PC to test it,D >though that will only test the basic drive, not the SCSI adapter on@ >the back (which certainly could be the problem, though it seems( >unlikely since CDROM usage is perfect). >    Rich,    you should try Version 2.01A19  F ftp://v36.chemie.uni-konstanz.de/cdrecord_vms/cdrtools_2_01a19_vms.zip   Eberhard   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:19:07 +0100 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> 9 Subject: Re: Reading VMS Documentation without DECWindows ' Message-ID: <3FE6D32B.51BBB00D@aaa.com>   * Use the PDF versions available online from the VMS homepage instead. 	 Jan-Erik.    JimL wrote:  > > > I'm trying to figure out how to read the OpenVMS VAX On-line? > Documentation library without using the DECWindows interface. < > I don't have a monitor on my vaxstation, just the console.( > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > 
 > - Jim L.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 06:43:08 -0500 * From: JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com>9 Subject: Re: Reading VMS Documentation without DECWindows ) Message-ID: <3FE6D897.B4A16F30@istop.com>    Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:  > , > Use the PDF versions available online from > the VMS homepage instead.   K While I have also made that suggestion, one should note that not all of the I PDF documents are usable. Many still lack the bookmark section (clickable @ table of contents) and thus makes the document very hard to use.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 14:08:19 +0100 9 From: Jan-Erik =?iso-8859-1?Q?S=F6derholm?= <aaa@aaa.com> 9 Subject: Re: Reading VMS Documentation without DECWindows ' Message-ID: <3FE6ECC3.BC49BBC5@aaa.com>   5 "Hard to us" is first quite subjective, second better  then no docs at all, not ?  	 Jan-Erik.    JF Mezei wrote:  >  > Jan-Erik Sderholm wrote:  > > . > > Use the PDF versions available online from > > the VMS homepage instead.  > M > While I have also made that suggestion, one should note that not all of the K > PDF documents are usable. Many still lack the bookmark section (clickable B > table of contents) and thus makes the document very hard to use.   ------------------------------    Date: 22 Dec 2003 07:46:53 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) 9 Subject: Re: Reading VMS Documentation without DECWindows 3 Message-ID: <H4FWVmpDLlyM@eisner.encompasserve.org>   [ In article <pljauvsld311mdum87t4btc031cdfjmbmv@4ax.com>, JimL <jglando@yaahooo.com> writes: > > I'm trying to figure out how to read the OpenVMS VAX On-line? > Documentation library without using the DECWindows interface. < > I don't have a monitor on my vaxstation, just the console.( > Any help would be greatly appreciated.  E    Find and use MGBOOK and Lynx.  The former is for Bookreader format %    documents and the latter for HTML.    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:40:00 +0000 O From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> 1 Subject: Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS 0 Message-ID: <bs6hm0$fao$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Paul Sture wrote: * > Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote: > F > Well, Andrew, now that I've had a taste of Rob baiting, I must say I) > find it a quite entertaining sport. :-)  > @ > But on a serious note, you recently mentioned Sun's clusteringF > abilities. Can you please point me to relevant urls where I can readI > about its capabilities? This is _not_ a wind up. I would like to expand  > my horizons. >      Here are some references. 8 These are the main index pages, on the right of the page9 is generally a link ot white papers on or relating to the  product(s).   
 SunCluster SW % http://wwws.sun.com/software/cluster/   4 Whitepapers on SunCluster and some of its components5 http://wwws.sun.com/software/cluster/whitepapers.html    QFS Cluster filesystem: http://www.sun.com/storage/software/data_mgmt/performance/  # Non commodity cluster interconnects 	 from Sun. 1 http://www.sun.com/servers/cluster_interconnects/    HA services # http://www.sun.com/service/hapacks/   - HPC systems if this is your clustering slant. ! http://www.sun.com/solutions/hpc/   / > Cheers in advance, and have a good Christmas.  >    Same to you    regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:11:06 +0000 O From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> 1 Subject: Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS 0 Message-ID: <bs6n0q$h5d$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Rob Young wrote:X > In article <3FE4BF81.F6B32765@istop.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@istop.com> writes: >  >>Rob Young wrote: >>K >>>        It's all about business.  In fact, Rohm and Haas announced today H >>>        they are laying off 550 people (3% of their workforce) as SAPF >>>        (a $300 million dollar project) has automated quite a bit.  >>P >>When you figure out the cost of your consultants and the exhorbitant fees paid. >>to SAP, does it really end up saving money ? >> >> >> >>>        Automation N >>>        is requiring fewer people, driving up productivity and driving down >>>        headcount.  >>L >>Since SAP replaces and older system, just how much additional "automation" >>does it bring ? N >>We're not talking ahout installing SAP in an Amish company that had hundredsM >>of human accountants that used abacus and paper. We are talking about using 1 >>SAP in corporations that already had computers.  >>J >>And it is very wrong to assume that those 550 people are being layed offP >>because of SAP. It is quite possible that they are laying off hundreds who hadI >>been hired solely for the installation of SAP, and other job losses are  >>totally unrelated to SAP.  >> >  > C > 	Sometimes I get the impression you think I just dream things up.  >   ! Think, know or have proven that ?   0 Now what on earth could you have done to give us that impression ?   , Sadly there is plenty of examples in the 3rd. category going as far back as your eBay dreams! sorry cut and paste difficulties.      Regards  Andrew Harrison    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 17:29:28 +0100 * From: Paul Sture <nospam@sture.homeip.net>1 Subject: Re: Singapore Exchange to run on OpenVMS / Message-ID: <3FE729F8.53C64DC@sture.homeip.net>   ( Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote: >  > Paul Sture wrote: , > > Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote: > > H > > Well, Andrew, now that I've had a taste of Rob baiting, I must say I+ > > find it a quite entertaining sport. :-)  > > B > > But on a serious note, you recently mentioned Sun's clusteringH > > abilities. Can you please point me to relevant urls where I can readK > > about its capabilities? This is _not_ a wind up. I would like to expand  > > my horizons. > >  >  > Here are some references. : > These are the main index pages, on the right of the page; > is generally a link ot white papers on or relating to the 
 > product(s).  >  > SunCluster SW ' > http://wwws.sun.com/software/cluster/  > 6 > Whitepapers on SunCluster and some of its components7 > http://wwws.sun.com/software/cluster/whitepapers.html  >  > QFS Cluster filesystem< > http://www.sun.com/storage/software/data_mgmt/performance/ > % > Non commodity cluster interconnects  > from Sun. 3 > http://www.sun.com/servers/cluster_interconnects/  > 
 > HA services % > http://www.sun.com/service/hapacks/  > / > HPC systems if this is your clustering slant. # > http://www.sun.com/solutions/hpc/  > 1 > > Cheers in advance, and have a good Christmas.  > >    Thanks for those Andrew.   > 
 > Same to you  > 	 > regards  > Andrew Harrison    --     --  
 Paul Sture   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 16:50:07 +0100 3 From: "Jacques Basteyns" <eurolysine.cp@wanadoo.fr> = Subject: UCX Version 5.3 ECO 2 - NFS Mount Disconnect Problem 2 Message-ID: <bs74bd$ilr$1@news-reader5.wanadoo.fr>   Hi,   5 We have the following in production with no problems:  $ ucx show version  9     DIGITAL TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha version 4.2 6     on a AlphaStation 200 4/100 running OpenVMS 7.1-2.  8 We are preparing a new system to replace above one soon: $ ucx show version  >     Compaq TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha version 5.3 ECO 28     on a AlphaServer DS10 617 Mhz running OpenVMS 7.3-1.  L On this system we run into MOUNT server deactivation before 'socket' as soon as9 a Host is trying to connect as shown in OPERATOR.LOG msg.m   [snip]  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-DEC-2003 09:04:08.22  %%%%%%%%%%% Logfile time stamp  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-DEC-2003 10:04:08.26  %%%%%%%%%%% Logfile time stamp  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-DEC-2003 10:18:30.75  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on SRVLABB INTERnet ACP MOUNT Accept Request from Host: 192.0.1.99 Port: 1023  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-DEC-2003 10:18:31.05  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on SRVLAB: INTERnet ACP detected TCPIP$MOUNTD exiting before 'socket'  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-DEC-2003 10:18:31.05  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on SRVLAB$ INTERnet ACP Deactivate MOUNT Server  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-DEC-2003 10:25:46.99  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on SRVLAB" INTERnet ACP Activate MOUNT Server  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-DEC-2003 10:26:13.19  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on SRVLABB INTERnet ACP MOUNT Accept Request from Host: 192.0.1.99 Port: 1023  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-DEC-2003 10:26:13.48  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on SRVLAB: INTERnet ACP detected TCPIP$MOUNTD exiting before 'socket'  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-DEC-2003 10:26:13.48  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on SRVLAB$ INTERnet ACP Deactivate MOUNT Server  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-DEC-2003 10:26:48.24  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on SRVLAB" INTERnet ACP Activate MOUNT Server  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-DEC-2003 11:04:08.33  %%%%%%%%%%% Logfile time stamp  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-DEC-2003 11:13:02.75  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on SRVLABB INTERnet ACP MOUNT Accept Request from Host: 192.0.1.99 Port: 1023  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-DEC-2003 11:13:03.02  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on SRVLAB: INTERnet ACP detected TCPIP$MOUNTD exiting before 'socket'  8 %%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM  19-DEC-2003 11:13:03.02  %%%%%%%%%%%$ Message from user INTERnet on SRVLAB$ INTERnet ACP Deactivate MOUNT Server   [snip]  I Host 192.0.1.99  is an NCD X-Terminal booting from an NFS MOUNT in SRVLAB0 (the DS10).1  ' Any hints, pointers to solve this ? TIAp   ------------------------------  # Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 12:31:43 GMTr" From:   VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORG$ Subject: V7.3-2 shipping problems...0 Message-ID: <00A2ABE6.25C63B36@SendSpamHere.ORG>  B I received my V7.3-2 source listings some time ago but I only justA Saturday (20-DEC) received my V7.3-2 binaries from FedEx.  Why???   B My address has been in the DEC/Compaq databases with the full nineB digit ZIP code (08527-2320).  The new HP printing label has my ZIPB code as 8527232 -- the leading and trailing zeroes were lost.  TheB FedEx label has this as a shipment to Arizona (AZ 85272).  There'sD some interesting tracking history at FedEx (track id: 630136551751).  C I know most of HP is out for the duration of the Christmas and New eB Year holidays but I thought I'd post this here in hopes that some-B body in HP would still be reading news and be able to forward this+ issue to the appropriate party inside HP.  o  @ Curious.  Anybody with a similar ZIP experience this same issue?   --B http://www.legacy-2000.com  for the *best* OpenVMS system securityC                             solutions that others only claim to be.d -- nK VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker   VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)COM             :5   "Well my son, life is like a beanstalk, isn't it?" c   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 07:35:29 -0600o( From: Wayne Sewell <wayne@tachysoft.com>( Subject: Re: V7.3-2 shipping problems.../ Message-ID: <00A2ABE6.A31A722C.5@tachysoft.com>e   >X-Newsgroups: comp.os.vms% >Subject: V7.3-2 shipping problems...T! >From: VAXman-  @SendSpamHere.ORGb >sC >I received my V7.3-2 source listings some time ago but I only just B >Saturday (20-DEC) received my V7.3-2 binaries from FedEx.  Why??? >wC >My address has been in the DEC/Compaq databases with the full nineiC >digit ZIP code (08527-2320).  The new HP printing label has my ZIPeC >code as 8527232 -- the leading and trailing zeroes were lost.  The C >FedEx label has this as a shipment to Arizona (AZ 85272).  There'snE >some interesting tracking history at FedEx (track id: 630136551751).t > D >I know most of HP is out for the duration of the Christmas and New C >Year holidays but I thought I'd post this here in hopes that some-hC >body in HP would still be reading news and be able to forward thisc, >issue to the appropriate party inside HP.   >iA >Curious.  Anybody with a similar ZIP experience this same issue?E >Y  O I might have, with a code similar to yours.  I just looked at my label, and theeN the last digit of the extended zip was truncated and there was no dash.  So it *was* dorked with.  N However, my main zip starts with 7, not 0, so this is probably the difference.L Without the leading zero, it was not truncated to a value corresponding to a* location on the other side of the country.  N So this is going to affect only people in the northeast, since that's the partP of the country with zips that start with 0 (software partners, north of boston, 
 is 01983).   Wayne?O ===============================================================================pN Wayne Sewell, Tachyon Software Consulting  (281)812-0738   wayne@tachysoft.com; http://www.tachysoft.com/www/tachyon.html and wayne.html   oO ===============================================================================hH Randolph Duke (in Trading Places): "Mother always said you were greedy."1    Mortimer Duke: "She meant it as a compliment!"-   ------------------------------    Date: 22 Dec 2003 05:32:26 -0800# From: axica_nopub@yahoo.com (Safir),< Subject: Re: Weird backup and shadow copy performance on VMS< Message-ID: <2b49c9e0.0312220532.50df35a@posting.google.com>  > You could check (safely) your disks read and write performance( with diskperf (using the nocache option)    0 This will help to see if it's hw related or not.   The tool can be downloaded at ( http://www.pi-net.dyndns.org/jfp/french/    5 We could isolate a strange SCSI Hub pb with this toolt   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:13:52 +0000-O From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com>h8 Subject: Re: What Andrew and sun can't stand is that ...0 Message-ID: <bs6g51$eoc$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Bob Koehler wrote: > In article <brv79r$3i4$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>, Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com> writes: > 0 >>And why keep bringing up CERT it is irrelevant/ >>in a discussion about OpenVMS vs any other OS-0 >>because OpenVMS security violations do not get >>reported to CERT.+ >  > F >    It is not irrelevant.  Even if we were to believe you claims thatG >    CERT does not accurately reflect VMS security issues, it does showd1 >    quite clearly that Solaris has a great many.n >    Ohh my god another CERT troll.   Regards7 Andrew Harrisong  : P.S The evidence that OpenVMS responses to CERT advisories7 is either non-existant or incorrect is incontrovertablea  so why try to pretend otherwise.   ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 10:19:06 +0000nO From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com>n8 Subject: Re: What Andrew and sun can't stand is that ...0 Message-ID: <bs6geq$ev0$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   Chris Moore wrote:I > Why is it that people continue to bait Harrison?  Reasoned arguments oreG > evidence to the contrary, he'll never admit he's wrong, so why bothero > "winding him up"?a >  >   4 Why would I admit that I am wrong when I have proved that I am right.   That would be odd.  4 Lets face it from the OpenVMS patch reports, to Hoff3 Hoffmans public admissions of inaccuracy to ask the>4 Wizard there is a whole body of evidence that proves* that OpenVMS CERT advisories are accurate.  3 OpenVMS advocates such as yourself can puff as much 3 hot air as you like but it doesn't chnage the basic  facts.   Regards  Andrew Harrisonn7 > "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in messageB9 > news:d7791aa1.0312191533.7f809ec9@posting.google.com...  > K >>Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com>r > ? > wrote in message news:<brvc2a$57j$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>...v > @ >>>The fact is that anyone claiming that you can measure OpenVMS> >>>vs other OS security by counting CERTS for the platforms is: >>>either ill informed or deliberately trying to misslead. >>> < >>>The fact that HP/Compaq has reported OpenVMS as not being? >>>vunerable to a CERT advisory should not lead you to conclude : >>>that its isn't because there is a body of evidence that> >>>proves that these responses have been wrong in the past and+ >>>that they also continue to be incorrect.e >>>c
 >>>regards >>>Andrew Harrison >>< >>that is what you wish reality was, but it isn't, and I and: >>others have shown VMS time and time again to thwart most; >>cert bugs ... the rest of your conspirarcy theory is just < >>that, because you have yet to prove anything you have saidA >>because it is all b.s., just like slowaris and sparkies are ...p >  >  >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:22:55 +0000tO From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com>t8 Subject: Re: What Andrew and sun can't stand is that ...0 Message-ID: <bs6k6f$g6k$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>  ( Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy wrote: > Chris Moore wrote: > J >> Why is it that people continue to bait Harrison?  Reasoned arguments orH >> evidence to the contrary, he'll never admit he's wrong, so why bother >> "winding him up"? >> >> > 6 > Why would I admit that I am wrong when I have proved > that I am right. >  > That would be odd. > 6 > Lets face it from the OpenVMS patch reports, to Hoff5 > Hoffmans public admissions of inaccuracy to ask the16 > Wizard there is a whole body of evidence that proves, > that OpenVMS CERT advisories are accurate.   That should read inaccuratea > 5 > OpenVMS advocates such as yourself can puff as much05 > hot air as you like but it doesn't chnage the basici > facts. > 	 > Regardso > Andrew Harrisonu > 8 >> "Bob Ceculski" <bob@instantwhip.com> wrote in message: >> news:d7791aa1.0312191533.7f809ec9@posting.google.com... >>& >>> Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy + >>> <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com>e >> >>@ >> wrote in message news:<brvc2a$57j$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>... >>B >>>> The fact is that anyone claiming that you can measure OpenVMS@ >>>> vs other OS security by counting CERTS for the platforms is< >>>> either ill informed or deliberately trying to misslead. >>>>> >>>> The fact that HP/Compaq has reported OpenVMS as not beingA >>>> vunerable to a CERT advisory should not lead you to conclude < >>>> that its isn't because there is a body of evidence that@ >>>> proves that these responses have been wrong in the past and- >>>> that they also continue to be incorrect.  >>>> >>>> regards >>>> Andrew Harrison >>>. >>>e> >>> that is what you wish reality was, but it isn't, and I and< >>> others have shown VMS time and time again to thwart most= >>> cert bugs ... the rest of your conspirarcy theory is justs> >>> that, because you have yet to prove anything you have saidC >>> because it is all b.s., just like slowaris and sparkies are ...3 >> >> >> >> >    ------------------------------  % Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2003 11:51:23 +0000iO From: Andrew Harrison SUNUK Consultancy <Andrew_No.Harrison_No@nospamn.sun.com>a1 Subject: Re: Where does HP fall in this equation?d0 Message-ID: <bs6lrs$goh$1@new-usenet.uk.sun.com>   John Smith wrote:  > Quote of the Week. >  > H >  "Organizations that don't make a significant commitment to Research &N > Development do not survive over the long haul -- no matter how dominant they > are at a given moment. >    Compare HP with IBM.  < HP total R&D expenditure 4 billion on revenues of 74 billion@ IBM total R&D expenditure 5.5 billion on revenues of 85 billion.  9 So HP R&D was ~5.4% of revenues as opposed to IBM at 6.4%s
 Looks OK !  = However 40% of IBM's revenues come from Global Services so inI> fact the majority of the 5.5 billion dollar spend is in effect< paid for by a revenue stream of ~51 billion dollars or ~10%.  ; 16.5% of HP's revenues came from Services so for HP the R&D : was paid for by a revenue stream of ~62 billion dollars or 6.4%.t   Regards  Andrew HarrisonP  C > The waves of other peoples' progress are simply too powerful, too 2 > relentless, to be met with halfhearted efforts." >  > Robert BuderiT > Editor in Chief,# > MIT's Technology Review magazine,u > Dec. 2003/Jan. 2004, Page 4 9 > http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/buderi1203.asp  > (subscription required.) >   > ------------------------------ > G > It seems to me that in the computer industry either a company investsnF > significant effort at {invention and promotion/advertising} of their= > inventions, or they become THE low-cost sell of Billyboxes.b > B > Simply having a slogan like 'Invent' fulfills neither condition. >  >  >    ------------------------------    Date: 22 Dec 2003 07:38:56 -0600; From: koehler@eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler)e* Subject: Re: [TCPIP V5.4] SSH observations3 Message-ID: <GyuEBj$j+3QT@eisner.encompasserve.org>   g In article <j0ZEb.598842$HS4.4389329@attbi_s01>, brad@.gateway.2wire.net (Bradford J. Hamilton) writes:7 > R > I tried the SSH for OpenVMS demo (from Process) more than a year or so ago.  My Q > tests  of Secure Copy and Secure FTP between a VMS and AIX box were failures.  cG > I could only seem to use those functions correctly between VMS boxes.1  F    I've been using Process' SSH on Multinet for about a year now.  TheF    only problems I've had are UNIX and Windows clients that still onlyA    do binary mode transfers.  No problems with Process' software.n   ------------------------------   End of INFO-VAX 2003.707 ************************> appropriate escape sequences for the terminal in question?  I Yes.  I use the two enable/disable comma 4122 (8) bytes transferred. <<< MDTM vteco.doc >>> 213 20010514170213 <<< SIZE vtedit.docv >>> 213 58838e
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